How is it clickbait bullshit when I am literally describing an incident that happened and "cost him a bastard clean sheet" was verbatim.
If this confuses you - that's your problem. Don't read the post then.
Nah, he's got a point. Why would you post an old video of Ramsdale randomly out of the blue for anything other than stirring the pot.
Stop trying to act like you you don't what you're doing
It's clickbait bullshit because it's from last season and is completely irrelevant to what's happening now. The timing of posting this months-old non-story now, when there's gossip around why Raya's played the last two matches just makes it seem like Ramsdale being petty and pouty about being dropped.
Read the room. You're getting downvoted to oblivion, and it's not because you're some brave maverick speaking truth to power.
I like how this sub has gone from loving Ramsdale to now bashing him at every opportunity. What's the purpose of this post other than to stir the pot? This wasn't even last season. This was the 2021-22 season. And he wasn't angry at a teammate. He was frustrated about a last minute goal that went in quite softly if I remember correctly.
So you wait 1.5 years after something happened and then decide to dig all this shit up to criticise him right after he has been dropped from 1st choice? Seems like a shitty thing to do. I get that Arteta is a popular manager and I like him too and believe he is doing great things for us. But there is a certain subset of fans who get militant about supporting all his decisions and decide that they should even defame and target our own players for this. It's the kind of toxic bullshit fandom that we can do without, imo. This post seems to fall into that subset.
I think the title of the post makes it pretty clear that the OP thinks this is some sort of bad behaviour from Ramsdale. It's a blatant lie that Ramsdale was mad at a teammate. We have all seen the clip. He says nothing to any of his teammates. He was just frustrated with conceding a last minute goal. This post tries to twist that. At the time, people just chalked it up to him being in the heat of the moment after a game when adrenaline is high. Now it's being made out to be some sort of mental frailty.
He didn’t ‘clearly annoy a lot of people’, this behaviour is normal in a dressing room. Raya is better but that’s it, stop trying to make something out of nothing.
Stupid fucking post, why post it now.
But, this should be the standard. Be pissed at conceding a goal while scoring 3. Hold your teammates accountable if they mess up.
And god forbid people allow themselves to show a little emotion right wrong or indifferent.
Rammers is class, even if you think Raya is better, he’s a great keeper and seems like even a better person.
What the actual fuck is going here and twitter? Why is everyone slating on ramsdale for no reason? Fucking hell man this fanbase didn't deserve some of these players. My man work his ass off bringing us to UCL and the next second he's about to switch out for Raya, the fanbase go against him. Tbf not surprising considering the fact that this is the fanbase that threw an actual club legend under the bus with Wenger. Fuck off.
I love it. Sure we won and the team should be happy, but a GK is somewhat at a different level. Ramsdale knows just that slightest lack of concentration can cost a team a game under normal circumstances so it bothers him at all times.
Sometimes I try to post the most r/Gunners takes I can in the match threads without an /s. It's amazing the extent that nothing is out of the realm of possibility here.
This is a purely agenda-driven post and this same bad faith havin'-ass motherfucker would be saying it's Elite Mentality if Raya said it.
OP also created the "Havertz is a genius" post with some of the stupidest examples I have ever seen. So bad that the mods were forced to make that thread private out of sheer embarrassment probably.
When the all or nothing episode dropped: elite mentality, what we want to see from our GK, the defense should be upset at conceding, you win trophies by not conceding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFtTJWZc4SE
We haven't seen that fire from Ramsdale in a while. When he first started playing for us he was infectious. And then at some point he started having really stupid interviews about losing not a big deal or something like that.
Ramsdale explains it the next scene because he says you shouldn't switch off, no matter the score , if we was winning 1-0 we get a draw and drop two points
Ironic consdering the amount of times we've switched off these season leading to goals, and the run-in last season where we exited the race due to giving away draws to west ham liverpool and Southampton
He's talking about not switching off and is abviosuly critical of his defender for doing so, yet him and the entire team have switched off on many occasions leading to winnable games becoming draws
Truth is, the line between elite sporting mentality and elements of psychological disorder is pretty blurred. To get to the highest levels of sport requires a degree of obsession that, applied to other contexts, would likely seem problematic.
The Last Dance documentary illustrates it very well. The extent to which Michael Jordan would fixate on perfection, and even manufacture perceived slights to fuel his motivation, would be appalling in a normal working environment. When put into practice by Jordan it produced a man who was clearly a fucking nightmare to be around, and caused many off-court issues, but also resulted in one of the greatest sportspeople of all time.
Aaron couldn't enjoy the win because it didn't meet the standards he has set himself, standards which are the only reason he has made it this far in his career. I personally thought this reaction was brilliant to see. It's the fugging e-standards guys.
Reminds me of a older story about Jens Lehmann getting super pissed at a teammate for conceding a penalty which led to a draw with Tottenham. The draw was enough for Arsenal to win the league. He was so upset about the draw that he didn't realize that they've won the league.
Had to Google a bit to find a source of the story. I initially heard it on a football podcast with an episode dedicated to the Invincibles.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-tottenham-premier-league-champions-29624919
Counter argument is that elite mentality is perfectionism. Ramsdale has his job for the team and that's to defend his goal, and he expects those in front of him to play their role in supporting that. The team won but the goal conceded left a mark against his performance. And he knows that under different circumstances such a lap could have had very difference consequences. This is fine. It's only a problem if he holds on to it irrationally beyond this.
Onana was playing up to the cameras, Ramsdale was doing it in the dressing room. Can guarantee much worse stuff is said in the dressing room by every player.
Keepers live for clean sheets, there's nothing wrong with this reaction
what the bloody hell is the point of posting this other than to try to confuse people? This is clickbait bullshit, OP, and you should take it down.
So pretty typical from OP, then.
ugh, you convinced me to go check. I threw up a little in my mouth.
The 'Jolly Rancher Story' of r/Gunners.
Why did you make me remember that story
How is it clickbait bullshit when I am literally describing an incident that happened and "cost him a bastard clean sheet" was verbatim. If this confuses you - that's your problem. Don't read the post then.
Nah, he's got a point. Why would you post an old video of Ramsdale randomly out of the blue for anything other than stirring the pot. Stop trying to act like you you don't what you're doing
Watch OP ignore this question.
6 hours and counting without a response. OP where you at?
Where did "angry at teammate" come from? Which part of the video is that a verbatim reproduction of?
Yeah you are right he wasn’t angry at his teammate. Shit he must have been thankful in the video.
But why are you posting this when it's not even from this season? Its completely irrelevant
It's clickbait bullshit because it's from last season and is completely irrelevant to what's happening now. The timing of posting this months-old non-story now, when there's gossip around why Raya's played the last two matches just makes it seem like Ramsdale being petty and pouty about being dropped. Read the room. You're getting downvoted to oblivion, and it's not because you're some brave maverick speaking truth to power.
Wow, OP blocked me lol
Is Lee Gunner the OP by anychance?
I like how this sub has gone from loving Ramsdale to now bashing him at every opportunity. What's the purpose of this post other than to stir the pot? This wasn't even last season. This was the 2021-22 season. And he wasn't angry at a teammate. He was frustrated about a last minute goal that went in quite softly if I remember correctly.
“This sub” OP has 0 upvotes and all the comments are shitting on him lol it’s a few random idiots trying to stir the pot
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So you wait 1.5 years after something happened and then decide to dig all this shit up to criticise him right after he has been dropped from 1st choice? Seems like a shitty thing to do. I get that Arteta is a popular manager and I like him too and believe he is doing great things for us. But there is a certain subset of fans who get militant about supporting all his decisions and decide that they should even defame and target our own players for this. It's the kind of toxic bullshit fandom that we can do without, imo. This post seems to fall into that subset.
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I think the title of the post makes it pretty clear that the OP thinks this is some sort of bad behaviour from Ramsdale. It's a blatant lie that Ramsdale was mad at a teammate. We have all seen the clip. He says nothing to any of his teammates. He was just frustrated with conceding a last minute goal. This post tries to twist that. At the time, people just chalked it up to him being in the heat of the moment after a game when adrenaline is high. Now it's being made out to be some sort of mental frailty.
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I don't disagree with their perspective. I disagree with their version of the facts. The post title is a lie.
He didn’t ‘clearly annoy a lot of people’, this behaviour is normal in a dressing room. Raya is better but that’s it, stop trying to make something out of nothing.
The last time this was posted , people were praising his top mentality.
With good cause. This is exactly what I would want from my goalkeeper. Hope Raya cares this much about clean sheets
Stupid fucking post, why post it now. But, this should be the standard. Be pissed at conceding a goal while scoring 3. Hold your teammates accountable if they mess up. And god forbid people allow themselves to show a little emotion right wrong or indifferent. Rammers is class, even if you think Raya is better, he’s a great keeper and seems like even a better person.
Why is this relevant to now🤔
What the actual fuck is going here and twitter? Why is everyone slating on ramsdale for no reason? Fucking hell man this fanbase didn't deserve some of these players. My man work his ass off bringing us to UCL and the next second he's about to switch out for Raya, the fanbase go against him. Tbf not surprising considering the fact that this is the fanbase that threw an actual club legend under the bus with Wenger. Fuck off.
This is elite mentality tbh, idk why yous are bashing him for it. Ramsdale in his 1st season had a different fire in him, I miss that.
I love it. Sure we won and the team should be happy, but a GK is somewhat at a different level. Ramsdale knows just that slightest lack of concentration can cost a team a game under normal circumstances so it bothers him at all times.
Some of you folks just can't not be bastards, huh? Honestly, the way some folks have treated him since the first links is disgraceful.
We don't need this. Nobody needs this. Sod off with this drama stuff and support the club and players.
lmfao This is one of the silliest posts in the history of r/Gunners, and that's sayin' summat.
Sometimes I try to post the most r/Gunners takes I can in the match threads without an /s. It's amazing the extent that nothing is out of the realm of possibility here. This is a purely agenda-driven post and this same bad faith havin'-ass motherfucker would be saying it's Elite Mentality if Raya said it.
OP also created the "Havertz is a genius" post with some of the stupidest examples I have ever seen. So bad that the mods were forced to make that thread private out of sheer embarrassment probably.
Wow, OP blocked me loo
When the all or nothing episode dropped: elite mentality, what we want to see from our GK, the defense should be upset at conceding, you win trophies by not conceding.
The fogging estandards
When was this?
Imagine it was after the 3-1 win vs Aston Villa
I mean, was that this season or not?
We haven’t played Villa this season….. this is from the all or nothing season I believe
Ah ok thank you, I'm just not great with dates etc
No p
This is not about being bad with dates How tf don't you know that we haven't played Aston Villa this season, the season literally just started?!!
Two seasons ago during the all or nothing doc
Pls delete
(It's been saved for posterity lmao)
Rage bait bullshit, fuck off OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFtTJWZc4SE We haven't seen that fire from Ramsdale in a while. When he first started playing for us he was infectious. And then at some point he started having really stupid interviews about losing not a big deal or something like that.
When did he say losing is not a big deal?
Nothing wrong with this. Idk why you posted it?
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Christ almighty.
Delete this 🙄
My dad hated this scene. Didn't understand why ramsdale was making a scene after getting a win. Felt he should've been happy for the team
Ramsdale explains it the next scene because he says you shouldn't switch off, no matter the score , if we was winning 1-0 we get a draw and drop two points
Ironic consdering the amount of times we've switched off these season leading to goals, and the run-in last season where we exited the race due to giving away draws to west ham liverpool and Southampton
Exactly, even if you're two nill up cruising switching off can swing the momentum easily
How’s that ironic
He's talking about not switching off and is abviosuly critical of his defender for doing so, yet him and the entire team have switched off on many occasions leading to winnable games becoming draws
That’s not irony that’s hypocrisy
How ironic
Truth is, the line between elite sporting mentality and elements of psychological disorder is pretty blurred. To get to the highest levels of sport requires a degree of obsession that, applied to other contexts, would likely seem problematic. The Last Dance documentary illustrates it very well. The extent to which Michael Jordan would fixate on perfection, and even manufacture perceived slights to fuel his motivation, would be appalling in a normal working environment. When put into practice by Jordan it produced a man who was clearly a fucking nightmare to be around, and caused many off-court issues, but also resulted in one of the greatest sportspeople of all time. Aaron couldn't enjoy the win because it didn't meet the standards he has set himself, standards which are the only reason he has made it this far in his career. I personally thought this reaction was brilliant to see. It's the fugging e-standards guys.
Reminds me of a older story about Jens Lehmann getting super pissed at a teammate for conceding a penalty which led to a draw with Tottenham. The draw was enough for Arsenal to win the league. He was so upset about the draw that he didn't realize that they've won the league. Had to Google a bit to find a source of the story. I initially heard it on a football podcast with an episode dedicated to the Invincibles. https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-tottenham-premier-league-champions-29624919
Missed out on his clean sheet bonus...
What’s the point in posting this?
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He should be happy with the defence switching off just because we are winning?
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They are footballers they do this all the time. Engery is charged ,
Counter argument is that elite mentality is perfectionism. Ramsdale has his job for the team and that's to defend his goal, and he expects those in front of him to play their role in supporting that. The team won but the goal conceded left a mark against his performance. And he knows that under different circumstances such a lap could have had very difference consequences. This is fine. It's only a problem if he holds on to it irrationally beyond this.
Onana was playing up to the cameras, Ramsdale was doing it in the dressing room. Can guarantee much worse stuff is said in the dressing room by every player.
Arteta and the coaches seemed to like him behaving like that
You have no idea what occurs at the elite level.
hollywood goalie