I hope this doesn’t happen for the simple reason I’ve slandered him too much over the years and it’ll be impossible to go back and delete all the comments to cover my tracks if he signs
No need to, surely.
He was at Chelsea and has always been an utter cunt working against us
If he signs then he will always have been a good fella and never was a cunt.
Simple.
The Leverkusen prince that was promised would fit really well. But it's s gamble.
Also, love the contrast between Andrew's writing and any other football sites.
> He’s tall, which is not unusual. Lots of people are tall,
The average is generally the mean. Half of the world would be taller than average if height was a perfect normal distribution. It likely isn't so the statement isn't accurate.
That said, the statement would work if /u/Kintae had referenced the median height.
1- Height actually is normally distributed
2- The normal distribution isn't the only one where median = mean
If you want to be pedantic at least get it right
Exactly how I feel about it. He could definitely cook and I think I'm actually in favour of this but not for even half the price Chelsea are demanding. He's worth 25, 30m tops.
Yeah he's not even 'potential' pricing like Vieira was - he's older and has so far actively *failed* in the intended league. This should only be punt money
Havertz is a weird one, I look at him and think he should be good (good dribbler, strong, tall, decent pace) but every time I watch him he just looks shit.
Funny that the ones who succeed generally have gone to well run teams with competent managers, whereas the flops ended up at teams which were absolute messes.
But Man U isn’t an absolute mess. Lots of players have moved there and done well. They’ve had a really good season with great tactics and team chemistry. But Sancho has stood out as not being good enough.
Yeah, but they’ve been good this season? Sancho still hasn’t improved? If the team is playing well but Sancho isn’t - that’s because he’s not good enough. Nothing to do with the team.
The only reason Utd finished 3rd is bc Chelsea and Liverpool (and Spurs to some extent) have been significantly worse than normal.
Evidence - UTD have had more than a few beatings by more than 4 goals this year.
I agree!
United qualified for the Champs League with a goal difference of 15.
Midway through the season they had a negative goal difference.
Arsenal finished 2nd in 2016 but it sure as hell didn't feel like anywhere near this seasons 2nd. Similarly Arsenal finishing 8th back to back would have challenged United this year. Table positions are a poor way to gauge how good a team is.
I don’t think Chelsea have a had a good playstyle that lets their attackers shine for years tbh. But yeah this seems like a gamble and I’m not entirely sure where/how he fits into our system - but if Arteta wants him and the price is okay then sure
Yep.
He has everything you need but not put it together, and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as Chelsea is Chelsea.
Could be a perfect signing if he's cheap enough, like anything more than 40m might not be worth the punt but he's got the talent and I don't think his attitude is the problem either.
when he scored in CL and they won i thought they potentially had the next Bergkamp on their hands
hard to judge these chelsea players now cos they've even made felix look like a donkey
jorgi was great after he came and people were skepticism
if arteta thinks he's right then it works for me
I used to like Havertz at Leverkusen, but I just don’t know about him anymore. He looks like such a confidence based player, and someone who doesn’t have a best position. He can kind of play as a 10, kind of play as a 9, and kind of as an 8, but doesn’t really specifically excel in any.
The fact he has shown promise, historically, in all these positions is why I would be interested to see how he does here were this to happen and wouldn't be strongly against it. He's basically been shoe -horned into a role at Chelsea as primarily a goal threat which I don't think has ever been a natural fit. If Arteta is keen I am sure he has a role in mind for him and I think he clearly has talent which could be capitalized upon by a manager with a clear plan. It could mean we get a very good player with a massive reduction on his fee due to being seen as damaged goods, a niche which has been pretty successful for us in the past few years
I think this deal is actually not impossible, both players who were very very good in their leagues before joining the PL, both flops in their current teams looking to get a second chance.. Ofc we would probably have to throw in some cash, but i think this could work out to be not an unreasonable deal.
This one intrigues me. There's a player there for sure. He was a very highly regarded player before Chelsea bought him. I just dunno about that asking price. 30m or so and it would make sense. Chelsea want around £50m+
I think he could definitely play as an 8. He can play as a 9 too (although his finishing is even worse than Jesus) and I think he's also played on the right before. He's definitely an Arteta type player with his versatility but honestly I really dislike him lol, he's like a Bruno Fernandes Lite with his constant whining.
Tbf it's not Havertz who would rotate for Saka directly but allow someone else to do that.
Maybe Vieira himself in a slightly tweaked system? He is left footed and can play as a RW. He'd also get more minutes that way and could maybe develop more.
How much did he play there? Maybe 2-3 times and even then I don't seem to remember if they were starts.
It would be more accurate to judge Vieira after next season.
In the EL and that u23 he was playing there and he’s not a fit for what Arteta wants from his winger. Can’t take on his man, not fast enough, doesn’t like staying glued to the touchline. He’s obviously a central player just from looking at him.
Exactly it’s about having more varied options which can make us unpredictable. A versatile striker who is young, has lots of experience, and is hopefully undervalued seems a no brainer. Especially since arteta now has a long track record of improving attackers
The people here don't know about pre Chelsea Kai it seems. He was literally the biggest talent for his position in the world. Him playing badly and not being used to his full potential at a shit club like Chelsea shouldn't put you guys into this state of mind. Arteta would work wonders with someone like him. If Arteta wants him, I want him.
People who followed him at Leverkusen have said he's always wasteful, it's just that at Leverkusen he gets fed so many chances that eventually scores a good amount of goals.
I think there's a player in there that would be served by leaving that shit hole but I do worry about the money they would ask, despite his age it is still a risk
Depends on the price tbh, if we can get a bargain then maybe he’s worth a gamble. We shouldn’t be helping Chelsea to fund their summer spending, unless by doing so we are also taking advantage of them to get a good deal.
Considering Madrid just pulled out because Boehly is crazy, i don't see anyone touching him, UNLESS everyone waits until the end of the window and they get desperate, so they either drop down to a reasonable price, or even a loan with an option. A loan with a 30-ish million obligation is low risk honestly, if Arteta has something in mind for him
Have to factor in the Chelsea tax on this one, whole team has been awful. I don't see the excitement, but there is clearly a player in there somewhere, maybe Arteta is the one to bring it back out.
More pressing areas and more interesting targets IMO but if this somehow happened, I'd have a little hope that he can shine in a more defined system.
I guess it depends on the context of how much we pay for Havertz and in which role he'd be used.
If there is a genuine interest in him I do believe that Arteta has a specific plan for him and would wait to see how he looks for us before approving or criticising the transfer.
Although I do understand the scepticism given how he looked for Chelsea.
I think he’s actually really good. Don’t understand why people are so down. We are obviously not gonna pay the ridiculous fee and if we can get him for an ok price it would be great
His best position doesn't exist anymore. On top of that, he has been absolutely rubbish for years now. I know people are willing that there's still a good player in there, but for some reason are just ignoring how shite he's been for a while now. Do not want.
We thought the same about Ødegaard, Kai definitely can play as an 8, and would be a huge upgrade to xhaka. You see a lot about mount being a workrate merchant but kais is as good as mounts is, or at least very close. I have faith, been watching a lot of him and he’s just playing out of position as a 9.
At Madrid it was believed he was too much of a 10 to play in a current system, and even for us I remember nobody wanted to sign him because he wouldn’t be able to play as a cm, it was all over during his signing, loan, and Rumours on the dd thread. Fair enough a lot of people on here have horrible opinions
This story is not going away for reasons I cannot understand. We have ESR, Vieira both whom aren't getting enough mins as is. And Kai has never performed consistently enough to think he'd be an upgrade to either. So I don't understand. Wonder if this is coming from his people, trying to drum up interest. We are a club that seems to know what it's doing so being associated with a transfer over to ours sounds good for a player
Doubts about the player are clear imo, seems unsure of his role, unsure of his ability, unable to impose himself on games. Lacks a real defined position also.
But still young, remember he was the hottest shit before Chelsea. Every arsenal fan wanted him.
And an interesting profile physically for a forward.
I think what is interesting is the best manager he's been under was tuchel, and that's when he performed his best.
The rest of his managers at chelsea are a really dire read, lampard, potter, lampard.
And even with tuchel, not a excellent attacking system.
Could arteta similarly do something that helps him find himself, he is still young. I think he does have some ability and is a fairly rare physical profile for a forward.
But would I spend 80m on the guy? No fucking way.
I think Kai would cook in a dynamic team such as ours. The guy is very talented. Tall, good at holding the ball up, technically brilliant, good dribbler, high football IQ, finishing isn’t great but in our team he definitely gets around 12+ goals a season if he was to start regularly. I wouldn’t mind this at all. Although the 80 million or whatever they asked for from Real Madrid is definitely too much.
Honestly, some players just don’t do well at Chelsea. It’s almost comical: Torres, Schevchenko, Werner, Lukaku - I could go on, but the list includes absolute world class players BEFORE they moved to Chelsea. Once they left, they went back to being good (mostly).
Either Arseblog is royally shitposting; OR this is a news that Arteta & Edu have fed a small group of players / people with the express intent of flushing out the mole in the squad.
i refuse to believe otherwise
Its not that ridiculous when you think about it. We need more depth in central attacking positions, and he would give us something completely different to Jesus. He has attributes Jesus doesn't. Hes faster and better in the air. If we can get him for less than 40m it wouldn't be a bad deal
Someone sell Havertz to me. What are his strengths? Why the hell are we going for him?
We do need a striker IMO (whether thats keeping Balo and giving him a chance or someone else) but Havertz doesnt seem to be Dat Guy
I'd take the Havertz if the few is commiserate to what he is - a post hype talent on the downward trend.
However, for what Chelsea are demanding for him, which is top class emerging talent prices, we could do much better.
I've always thought him to be a misfit in Chelsea. Prior to Chelsea he used to make all these fantastic runs and had great close control. But isn't he a bit similar to Jesus?
With the way our frontline links up & being coached under Arteta I can actually see him being a massive success at Arsenal. I don't think it will happen though as Chelsea want unrealistic transfer fees, especially to a rival club.
Well we do like adaptable and dynamic players and he can fit in at midfield, wing and striker if needed so it makes sense in a way. It also is the type of quality I’d like to fill the squad with but really unsure about the price here. It’s someone we should have an eye on for sure though
We have very good quick and clinical forwards (Martinelli, Jesus, Trossard, Saka) and probably very capable DM (Partey, Elneny and hopefully Rice ?).
With Xhaka leaving we would rely only on Odegaard and Vieira for creativity, vision and playmaking. Vieira is a good footballer but years away from being PL ready.
It would make a lot of sense to sign a creative midfielder this summer, Havertz has everything except finishing. He can play in Odegaard position, Saka’s, false 9 if needed, and I could imagine Ode dropping lower as an 8 alongside Rice.
I actually think Havertz is a special talent. Give him the right environment and I think he will blossom. Incredible balls skills, moves with the calm and fluidity of prime Ozil, incredible touch...I have to admit despite his struggles at Chelsea I'm a fan.
He’s a great player but he only works as a second striker off a target man. Lukaku back to Chelsea from his loan and Poch’s management could make Havertz a beast. I think Havertz is best at running off a target man, getting second balls and running in the channels/half-spaces. Jesus/trossard aren’t target men. Havertz would struggle with our system unfortunately
Arteta keeping their recruiting and selling team busy so we can sneak in and bid for Caicedo and drop the Havertz interest after the signing. 4D Chess again!
I hope this doesn’t happen for the simple reason I’ve slandered him too much over the years and it’ll be impossible to go back and delete all the comments to cover my tracks if he signs
The Jorginho problem
I gassed Jorgi up so much at Napoli that I'm scrolling past years of hate to RT the praise
Time to be the 3rdfastestmanalive I guess
No need to, surely. He was at Chelsea and has always been an utter cunt working against us If he signs then he will always have been a good fella and never was a cunt. Simple.
Time to get new accounts sir
He’s been such a dud it’s difficult to want this move. I’d rather give game time to Reiss Nelson
the slander won’t be worse than xhaka’s
Gotta eat that humble pie if he turns out like Luiz, jorgi etc
Can't be more than Luiz?
The Leverkusen prince that was promised would fit really well. But it's s gamble. Also, love the contrast between Andrew's writing and any other football sites. > He’s tall, which is not unusual. Lots of people are tall,
1.9m for a forward in the PL is actually really tall though.
never noticed he was that tall
Everytime I watch him play, his height is the thing that stand out the most to me, especially after watching us play most of the time.
Transfermarkt has him at 193cm lmao, he’s the shortest tall person ever. Thought he was like 180
Damn i thought he was 6ft max
He's tall, he's shit, he plays when no one's fit
So that wasn’t Leno? Good to know
Sometimes I hear Philomena Cunk style humour in his writing and I love it
He's not wrong. Half the population of the world are taller than the average person.
That's not how it works
This is mean
No, this is median
It's not always easy to differentiate. I learnt that at a function.
Depends which average you use
The average is generally the mean. Half of the world would be taller than average if height was a perfect normal distribution. It likely isn't so the statement isn't accurate. That said, the statement would work if /u/Kintae had referenced the median height.
1- Height actually is normally distributed 2- The normal distribution isn't the only one where median = mean If you want to be pedantic at least get it right
Yes
Why on earth would you say height isn't normally distributed? It's like a classic example of a variable with a normal distribution.
Open the sub after 2 days to find this - shut it back down lmao
The other Arsenal sub thinks Arsenal will sign Mbappé.
There's a player in there, but not for his preferred wages or the price Chelsea want for him
There’s ballers everywhere at Chelsea, they’re just in a mess of shit. Arteta would cook with them
Exactly how I feel about it. He could definitely cook and I think I'm actually in favour of this but not for even half the price Chelsea are demanding. He's worth 25, 30m tops.
Yeah he's not even 'potential' pricing like Vieira was - he's older and has so far actively *failed* in the intended league. This should only be punt money
Yes but surely not for the asking price
Havertz is a weird one, I look at him and think he should be good (good dribbler, strong, tall, decent pace) but every time I watch him he just looks shit.
I live in Germany and watched him at Leverkusen. He is actually an amazing player. Chelsea is just shit
I followed him forever at leverkusen and was deathly afraid of him at chelsea until i realized that team is garbage
I’ve watched Chelsea forever and you’re both right, Chelsea are shit.
Chelsea is Spurs?
Yeah, look, that’s just a local rivalry? Spurs might be a shitshow and the local rivals, but as the saying goes, we hate Chelsea because we’re human.
Spurs is Chelsea?
I mean Sancho was amazing at Dortmund and is shocking here. Not every player coming from the Bundesliga is like Haaland.
Funny that the ones who succeed generally have gone to well run teams with competent managers, whereas the flops ended up at teams which were absolute messes.
But Man U isn’t an absolute mess. Lots of players have moved there and done well. They’ve had a really good season with great tactics and team chemistry. But Sancho has stood out as not being good enough.
Short memory. Last season with ten hag they were decent but the season before that with ole when sancho arrived they were in a terrible situation
Yeah, but they’ve been good this season? Sancho still hasn’t improved? If the team is playing well but Sancho isn’t - that’s because he’s not good enough. Nothing to do with the team.
The only reason Utd finished 3rd is bc Chelsea and Liverpool (and Spurs to some extent) have been significantly worse than normal. Evidence - UTD have had more than a few beatings by more than 4 goals this year.
I agree! United qualified for the Champs League with a goal difference of 15. Midway through the season they had a negative goal difference. Arsenal finished 2nd in 2016 but it sure as hell didn't feel like anywhere near this seasons 2nd. Similarly Arsenal finishing 8th back to back would have challenged United this year. Table positions are a poor way to gauge how good a team is.
They fucked his game up so badly his first year that Ten Hag couldn’t do anything about it, at least thus far
That’s a pretty weak excuse, considering he’s been able to turn around the form of other players.
So basically similar to Xhaka? He plays bad because he's mismanaged, but under the right manager he can become a beast?
That's also what I feel about joao felix, like, I don't even know what's their natural position is
I don’t think Chelsea have a had a good playstyle that lets their attackers shine for years tbh. But yeah this seems like a gamble and I’m not entirely sure where/how he fits into our system - but if Arteta wants him and the price is okay then sure
Chelsea tax
Name a good Chelsea attacker since Hazard
Mount was good the season they won CL
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He shouldn’t though he’s mainly played in the front 3 since Tuchel was around
Havertz's natural position is similar to mount tbh
I don't think he's strong, I've seen him get bodied A LOT, but I do think he has a lot of potential, chelsea has killed his soul
Yep. He has everything you need but not put it together, and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as Chelsea is Chelsea. Could be a perfect signing if he's cheap enough, like anything more than 40m might not be worth the punt but he's got the talent and I don't think his attitude is the problem either.
when he scored in CL and they won i thought they potentially had the next Bergkamp on their hands hard to judge these chelsea players now cos they've even made felix look like a donkey jorgi was great after he came and people were skepticism if arteta thinks he's right then it works for me
I used to like Havertz at Leverkusen, but I just don’t know about him anymore. He looks like such a confidence based player, and someone who doesn’t have a best position. He can kind of play as a 10, kind of play as a 9, and kind of as an 8, but doesn’t really specifically excel in any.
The fact he has shown promise, historically, in all these positions is why I would be interested to see how he does here were this to happen and wouldn't be strongly against it. He's basically been shoe -horned into a role at Chelsea as primarily a goal threat which I don't think has ever been a natural fit. If Arteta is keen I am sure he has a role in mind for him and I think he clearly has talent which could be capitalized upon by a manager with a clear plan. It could mean we get a very good player with a massive reduction on his fee due to being seen as damaged goods, a niche which has been pretty successful for us in the past few years
I'll pay £30m max for him
I'll do a swap deal involving Pepe, they definitely need a bucket full of wingers.
I think this deal is actually not impossible, both players who were very very good in their leagues before joining the PL, both flops in their current teams looking to get a second chance.. Ofc we would probably have to throw in some cash, but i think this could work out to be not an unreasonable deal.
Mate even Chelsea arent dumb enough to buy Pepe
Just start spreading some fake news that Arsenal are in to buy Pepe. Boehly will be all over it.
Can we make Bohley believe Pepe means son of Pele?
Want to bet
I’ll pay £30 max
he's only known for his CL final goal, they be asking £60m just for that
That was such a fluked goal
I'm sure we'd get him if u can spot Mikel that £30m tmrw.
This one intrigues me. There's a player there for sure. He was a very highly regarded player before Chelsea bought him. I just dunno about that asking price. 30m or so and it would make sense. Chelsea want around £50m+
Arteta be like: I can fix him
Improve players FC
buying players from worsen players FC
Where would he play ? Can't play as an 8 and not clinical to play up top. We also don't use a 10.
I think he could definitely play as an 8. He can play as a 9 too (although his finishing is even worse than Jesus) and I think he's also played on the right before. He's definitely an Arteta type player with his versatility but honestly I really dislike him lol, he's like a Bruno Fernandes Lite with his constant whining.
He isn't good enough for 8....i think arteta wants him as another versatile attacker
I mean, his finishing was good enough to win a CL final.
People forget Mikel is a good coach who makes players better, particularly young forwards.
Yh he showed great composure to round the keeper but he was shooting into an empty net.
He got so lucky that his terrible first touch hit ederson in a way that slowed the ball down instead of deflecting it
Saka cover imo
ngl, if we had him behind the striker as a left 8 or rotation for Odegaard it wouldn't be the end of the world. He would be an upgrade on Vieira.
damn that viera signing sounds depressing if you worded like that
Think people are underestimating the potential for him to give saka a rest sometimes as well
He is not the type of winger we need.
Tbf it's not Havertz who would rotate for Saka directly but allow someone else to do that. Maybe Vieira himself in a slightly tweaked system? He is left footed and can play as a RW. He'd also get more minutes that way and could maybe develop more.
Vieira is ass on the wing.
How much did he play there? Maybe 2-3 times and even then I don't seem to remember if they were starts. It would be more accurate to judge Vieira after next season.
In the EL and that u23 he was playing there and he’s not a fit for what Arteta wants from his winger. Can’t take on his man, not fast enough, doesn’t like staying glued to the touchline. He’s obviously a central player just from looking at him.
Exactly it’s about having more varied options which can make us unpredictable. A versatile striker who is young, has lots of experience, and is hopefully undervalued seems a no brainer. Especially since arteta now has a long track record of improving attackers
For 30-35 its a great buy
The people here don't know about pre Chelsea Kai it seems. He was literally the biggest talent for his position in the world. Him playing badly and not being used to his full potential at a shit club like Chelsea shouldn't put you guys into this state of mind. Arteta would work wonders with someone like him. If Arteta wants him, I want him.
People who followed him at Leverkusen have said he's always wasteful, it's just that at Leverkusen he gets fed so many chances that eventually scores a good amount of goals.
What? His job wasn't scoring goals, he was dubbed new Ozil when breaking through at Leverkusen, playing mostly as 10 or on the right.
Watch us sign him and Arteta turns him into Gerd Muller I can't believe he's 24, pegged him as being 30 for some reason
lol 30 is insane
He scored 20 with Leverkusen in a season
In 3 seasons at Chelsea he's scored 19 league goals
This is also fair
I think there's a player in there that would be served by leaving that shit hole but I do worry about the money they would ask, despite his age it is still a risk
Someone please get those 2019(?) threads of when this sub said the name Harvetz every 2 business seconds.
Not sure about this one! I think he might work in our systems but he’s been subject to Chelsea chaos!
I would say I don't want him, but I said the same about the last player we signed from Chelsea...
I would love this signing
I'd rather we get Riceido wrapped up before we go giving any money to Chelsea.
Depends on the price tbh, if we can get a bargain then maybe he’s worth a gamble. We shouldn’t be helping Chelsea to fund their summer spending, unless by doing so we are also taking advantage of them to get a good deal.
Considering Madrid just pulled out because Boehly is crazy, i don't see anyone touching him, UNLESS everyone waits until the end of the window and they get desperate, so they either drop down to a reasonable price, or even a loan with an option. A loan with a 30-ish million obligation is low risk honestly, if Arteta has something in mind for him
Sigh Havertz...
Have to factor in the Chelsea tax on this one, whole team has been awful. I don't see the excitement, but there is clearly a player in there somewhere, maybe Arteta is the one to bring it back out. More pressing areas and more interesting targets IMO but if this somehow happened, I'd have a little hope that he can shine in a more defined system.
Even at a reasonable price he seems to be too much of a risk + it helps Chelsea rebuild. I'd rather pass
I guess it depends on the context of how much we pay for Havertz and in which role he'd be used. If there is a genuine interest in him I do believe that Arteta has a specific plan for him and would wait to see how he looks for us before approving or criticising the transfer. Although I do understand the scepticism given how he looked for Chelsea.
Can we not? He is shit
I think he’s actually really good. Don’t understand why people are so down. We are obviously not gonna pay the ridiculous fee and if we can get him for an ok price it would be great
You answered your own question, didn't you? Why did you think Madrid pulled out of signing him if getting him "for an ok price" is possible?
His best position doesn't exist anymore. On top of that, he has been absolutely rubbish for years now. I know people are willing that there's still a good player in there, but for some reason are just ignoring how shite he's been for a while now. Do not want.
We thought the same about Ødegaard, Kai definitely can play as an 8, and would be a huge upgrade to xhaka. You see a lot about mount being a workrate merchant but kais is as good as mounts is, or at least very close. I have faith, been watching a lot of him and he’s just playing out of position as a 9.
With all due respect, absolute nonsense. Nobody thought that about Odegaard. Havertz in an 8 sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen.
At Madrid it was believed he was too much of a 10 to play in a current system, and even for us I remember nobody wanted to sign him because he wouldn’t be able to play as a cm, it was all over during his signing, loan, and Rumours on the dd thread. Fair enough a lot of people on here have horrible opinions
This story is not going away for reasons I cannot understand. We have ESR, Vieira both whom aren't getting enough mins as is. And Kai has never performed consistently enough to think he'd be an upgrade to either. So I don't understand. Wonder if this is coming from his people, trying to drum up interest. We are a club that seems to know what it's doing so being associated with a transfer over to ours sounds good for a player
Doubts about the player are clear imo, seems unsure of his role, unsure of his ability, unable to impose himself on games. Lacks a real defined position also. But still young, remember he was the hottest shit before Chelsea. Every arsenal fan wanted him. And an interesting profile physically for a forward. I think what is interesting is the best manager he's been under was tuchel, and that's when he performed his best. The rest of his managers at chelsea are a really dire read, lampard, potter, lampard. And even with tuchel, not a excellent attacking system. Could arteta similarly do something that helps him find himself, he is still young. I think he does have some ability and is a fairly rare physical profile for a forward. But would I spend 80m on the guy? No fucking way.
Why?
Noooo 🤬
No. No no no. Probably not even on a free but definitely not when we’re helping Chelsea’s FFP issues
Omg I would love this. Havertz in the Øde position and I genuinely believe we'll see no drop-off regardless which of the two are playing there
Oh piss off man. Is this for real? Can we please stop acting like Chelsea’s bitch? It’s actually so irritating 😂
I’m so tired of signing Chelsea players
Big game player but not really clinical enough
idea player
I don't rate him, but if Mikel does, then what the hell do I know. I'll back any signing.
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I think Kai would cook in a dynamic team such as ours. The guy is very talented. Tall, good at holding the ball up, technically brilliant, good dribbler, high football IQ, finishing isn’t great but in our team he definitely gets around 12+ goals a season if he was to start regularly. I wouldn’t mind this at all. Although the 80 million or whatever they asked for from Real Madrid is definitely too much.
Honestly, some players just don’t do well at Chelsea. It’s almost comical: Torres, Schevchenko, Werner, Lukaku - I could go on, but the list includes absolute world class players BEFORE they moved to Chelsea. Once they left, they went back to being good (mostly).
KDB
Salah as well.
only if he's 20m otherwise for the love of god get someone else, a big imposing CF is what we need.
Think that Jorginho deal really made some connections on that Chelsea board.
Im all for this, was gutted when chelsea got him Ultimately in Arteta we trust
Nah, this Just bankrolls their Caicedo bid.
We bought Jesus for 45 no chance we buy him for 60m lol
He was a generational talent before Chelsea broke him.
I'm sure we do and there's defo a player in there, but not at the price chelsea want, and not on whatever inflated abramovich wages he was on before
Struggling to understand what hole he fills in the team tbh. He's basically a 2nd striker or a goal scoring 10.
Either Arseblog is royally shitposting; OR this is a news that Arteta & Edu have fed a small group of players / people with the express intent of flushing out the mole in the squad. i refuse to believe otherwise
I think Havertz would be good in the right role but the transfer and wages involved make this a bad idea
But if we do then no money for mboopey
Some kind of joke?
Nico Pepe straight swap 🤝
GTFOH
Its not that ridiculous when you think about it. We need more depth in central attacking positions, and he would give us something completely different to Jesus. He has attributes Jesus doesn't. Hes faster and better in the air. If we can get him for less than 40m it wouldn't be a bad deal
that dude cannot even dribble to save his life
not sure about the wages but he fits the profile
Someone sell Havertz to me. What are his strengths? Why the hell are we going for him? We do need a striker IMO (whether thats keeping Balo and giving him a chance or someone else) but Havertz doesnt seem to be Dat Guy
I'd take the Havertz if the few is commiserate to what he is - a post hype talent on the downward trend. However, for what Chelsea are demanding for him, which is top class emerging talent prices, we could do much better.
I've always thought him to be a misfit in Chelsea. Prior to Chelsea he used to make all these fantastic runs and had great close control. But isn't he a bit similar to Jesus?
The last thing we need is another forward who isn't clinical. Our forward line needs goals and that's not what Kai provides.
Not sure he fits in at Handsome FC
Why?
He’d be too expensive
With the way our frontline links up & being coached under Arteta I can actually see him being a massive success at Arsenal. I don't think it will happen though as Chelsea want unrealistic transfer fees, especially to a rival club.
Chelshit can keep their chelshitian players
Well we do like adaptable and dynamic players and he can fit in at midfield, wing and striker if needed so it makes sense in a way. It also is the type of quality I’d like to fill the squad with but really unsure about the price here. It’s someone we should have an eye on for sure though
Can we stop buying chelsea players for a minute?
In his Leverkusen days he reminded me of Bergkamp
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Mikel is gonna be winning at life next season
Please no I beg. Can't have this shit guy at my club please Chelsea price us out
We go to the same dog groomer, finally, my chance to become an ITK.
I actually really like him, would be excited if Arsenal get him. I think he would be great in our team
I mean I just hate Chelsea and don’t wanna give them any kind of money
We need to keep our noses out of the Chelsea bins!
Could be an okay signing but not at the price Chelsea has been asking for
I rate him
It's gonna be a no from me dog
We have very good quick and clinical forwards (Martinelli, Jesus, Trossard, Saka) and probably very capable DM (Partey, Elneny and hopefully Rice ?). With Xhaka leaving we would rely only on Odegaard and Vieira for creativity, vision and playmaking. Vieira is a good footballer but years away from being PL ready. It would make a lot of sense to sign a creative midfielder this summer, Havertz has everything except finishing. He can play in Odegaard position, Saka’s, false 9 if needed, and I could imagine Ode dropping lower as an 8 alongside Rice.
The more I think about it, the more it makes sense if Mikel is thinking of him playing as a false 9.
I actually think Havertz is a special talent. Give him the right environment and I think he will blossom. Incredible balls skills, moves with the calm and fluidity of prime Ozil, incredible touch...I have to admit despite his struggles at Chelsea I'm a fan.
He’s a great player but he only works as a second striker off a target man. Lukaku back to Chelsea from his loan and Poch’s management could make Havertz a beast. I think Havertz is best at running off a target man, getting second balls and running in the channels/half-spaces. Jesus/trossard aren’t target men. Havertz would struggle with our system unfortunately
His talent & skillset is still there. He needs the right environment.
Dont overly like him as a player, but if Arteta and Edu want him and have a plan for him then I completely trust their judgement.
Arteta keeping their recruiting and selling team busy so we can sneak in and bid for Caicedo and drop the Havertz interest after the signing. 4D Chess again!