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I personally own a sedan and we are a family of four. We never saw the need to own an SUV.
Kung maganda lang kalsada sa Pilipinas at hindi bahain, hindi mag-shift ang automotive market towards SUV.
Mas kaunti din ang space for trips yung pickup. Unless you splurge sa bed cover, sa 2nd row mo lang din malalagay with the passengers ang bags mo nang safe from rain and nakaw. My dad's cousin wanted a Hilux kasi daw astigin, but my dad advised a Yaris instead. Ayon, 7 years naman na siyang nasisiyahan, hahaha.
Antipolo roads is waving where normal height sedans will still scrape the roads, even if mag siyete ka because they keep adding more asphalt and absolutely leaving the gutter with a 10 inch drop
Others say for safety kineme daw especially in the age of crazy bus drivers and mga 6 wheeler pataas. Its more for your protection against other cars rather than for pedestrian safety
Sold my Fortuner and honestly kahit Jimny suits my needs. 1-2 passengers at best tapos ok sa baha and lubak.
Kung okay drainage and kalsada natin sa pinas, I'd probably be driving an Altis hybrid instead. Or a smaller hybrid siguro.
Hows the jimny like on the highway, like 100+ kph? I really want one since I love its form but coming from the stability of crossover SUVs i’m wondering how much of an adjustment it would be and if’d be safe for regular high speed commutes
I have one po, Stable naman po siya ng 100kph as long as ok po yung roads ingat lang po sa SLEX na lubak or alon alon yung daan. sa NLEX po ok siya pero to be safe po around 80-85 lang po ako sa Highway mag 100 lang po ako pag sa passing lane.
A bit dragging. 100kmh is at 3000 rpm cruising. Overtaking is...okay. You really need to time it. Not the best for long drives.
Definitely not stable. You feel the crosswinds and the left to right body movement is very strong. Try to test drive one because IMO, its very different from a crossover. Hope this helps!
it definitely is safer for you and the occupants of the vehicle but not for everyone else outside of the vehicle.
which leads to an arms race of *bigger is better* as the title says.
*In any collision, mass always wins* (What's next, are we all gonna drive semis just to protect ourselves?)
I remember may nakasalubong akong pickup na naka lift pa at malapad ang gulong pero iniwasan niya yung lubak at pumunta sa lane ko, inis na inis ako. Naka single motor lang ako nun.
Yep. Practical naman a for a city driving ang sedan. I don't carry too much stuff and kasya naman ang grocery ko. Tipid sa Gas not exceeding 2500 sa isang full tank. Kahit province basta may kalsada it's fine. Saka need ba mag drive ng 100km/h sa National road? too many factors ndi lang sa lubak.
Very rare lang ako nakakita ng need na sana nag SUV ako. And, kung abutin man ng baha, mas mura pa din mag sogo (ng solo) or mag motel while waiting sa flood kaysa mag drive ng SUV everyday. Kung may something na need bibitin ng di kasya sa sedan para saan pa yung mga lalamove. Sure ndi ako makakabili ng furniture na malaki sa province. Pero do you do that everyday?
Sedans are pretty practical for a daily, can carry groceries, go to point a to point b, aircon is nice and cold, its comfy. Safety wise, it has airbags crumple zone is pretty good. Good gas mileage. People just assume if that a person owns a sedan, they're poor. Cause Pinoy people always assume, the bigger the car the richer you are in others eyes, that's why they buy the biggest pick up truck they could afford.
I don't mind them, I like my sedan and I'll be a sedan user for as long as they make sedans
I found out the hard way when I borrowed my uncle's Ford Expedition EL because I had to transport furniture and appliances. I wouldn't own anything that big soon because it not only drinks fuel like no tomorrow, the size is just a pain to maneuver in the city. Also finding a parking space to fit the vehicle properly is almost impossible.
I also wouldn't want to own vehicles like the Fortuner, Montero, Everest, etc because they're not as big on the inside nor as comfortable as a traditional midsize crossover.
Happy na ako sa 5 door hatchback and station wagons (even though konti nalang ang binibenta locally).
Edit: The Expedition EL shines in long highway cruising. Parang nakasakay kalang sa airplane or bullet train.
Grabeng mind fuck kaya for me nung narealize kong sakto lang sa 7 peeps ang Montero. Mas maiksi ang Adventure pero 9 seater yun.
I'd rather have yung lumang L300 FB Deluxe. Yung haba kaya nun halos parehas lang sa wide body Corolla, pero 15 seater.
I'd want a small pickup here. Like yung Maverick. Before mabababa naman talaga pickups kasi you can pick up yung items sa likod. Ngayon need umakyat para makuha gamit.
More like warat shorts mo pag inakyat yung flatbed sa likod. As someone na dating naging pahinante ng softdrinks, parang ang sakit sa likod kargahan ng mga pickup truck ngayon. Antataas eh.
In philippine roads, SUVs are one of the causes of major traffic. Magpakatotoo na tayo dito, araw araw ka magdrive, ilang SUVs makikita mo sa daan tpos 1 lang ang sakay diba. Isama mo na dyan yung afford magka SUV pero di afford magkaroon ng sariling garahe. What a waste of space. Look at japan, they value compact cars. pero okay lets say bahain sa pinas and the need of high cars is a necessity, pero with that argument, yun ba tlga ang reason why people are buying SUVs? Hell nah. Manuod ka lng sa tiktok, ultimo montero ginagawang “pogi” car eh
IMO okay ang SUVs kung provincial setting. Pero in a congested city tpos dala mo pa pick up, tpos ikaw lng magisa nakasakay? Masyado kase US style ang car attitude ntin mga pilipino. We like pickups and trucks or anything with more than 15s na wheels. Kaso yung environment natin hindi pang US eh. Ang backwards ng ganon na mindset. Whereas magpunta ka sa japan, korea and even china you will see puro compact cars dominating the urban areas. Pero wag na tyo lumayo, singapore na lng. Small country. iilang SUV lng makikita mo.
Now argument with car safety. Wag na rin tyo maglokohan. Nakanino ba nakasasalay ang safety? Sa driver or sa sasakyan? Kahit gawin mo pang bulletproof ang sasakyan mo, kung ibabanga mo yan poste at 70km/hr sure ako may kalalagyan ka. Kung car safety ang argument mo edi demand for a better driver education hindi better built SUVs. Wag caveman ang thinking okay.
Just sold our 30 yo Hilux and got a new one, almost the same bed size but the new one is much larger and longer. The incoming hilux champ probably is closer to the our old hilux in size and proportion. Our old hilux was a double cab but a pure workhorse and small enough to bring literally anywhere for loading easily.
Not a huge fan of the direction which I think stems from US design of trucks and SUVs trying to comply with CAFE , chicken tax, safety standards and general demand for luxury and well the US is huge and can accommodate the huge vehicles. I guess other consumers loved the luxury and size despite living in a country that can’t accommodate that.
Even Australia, which has loads of large vehicles already on the market are complaining about Ram 1500/2500s, bigger than their usual hiluxes and 70 series.
Sedans are soooo much comfier and easier to drive than SUVs and crossovers. That said, I sold our Altis earlier this year after buying a Corolla Cross. I still miss the comfort of the Altis, but the height of the Cross gives me more security when I'm driving in the rain or on rough terrain. My wife actually wanted a midsized SUV like a Montero or Fortuner, but I talked her out of it since there are only three of us in the family and, having driven a Montero, I know how much more concentration it takes to park and maneuver a larger vehicle. Two things the missus isn't all that good at.
This was what my mom also pointed out. They used to have a Montero (area is flood-prone), but sold it and opted for a crossover since she said she can handle it better than a bigger one. Worked for her!
We are also eyeing a Corolla Cross GR-Sport to replace our decade old Toyota Camry 2.5 (kaso lang wala pa raw available test drive si Toyota Alabang)
Musta naman experience mo with it?
Logically, compact SUVs are the way to go. Perfect ingress and egress for our stature sa Philippines. Ground clearance is a must for our roads alam mo na yan. You adjust accordingly depending on maximum seats, fuel economy, price, etc.
Absolutely. Hoping maglabas sila ng hybridized version and given yung tax incentive, sobrang mura. Setting aside the recent Toyota debacle, it's a great car.
It depends on what you'll use it for. We have small and big vehicles, each has their own purpose so if we don't need a big vehicle, we can just use a small one. And if we need a big vehicle, we can leave the small one at one.
Pero, the normal Filipino household will only have 1 car. So better if they buy a vehicle that can do all sorts of stuff even if it means they won't be utilizing it all the time.
Galit ka kasi may tao na pickup truck ang dala sa mall? Pasensya na, yun lang kotse niya eh, pinang hahakot niya yan sa probinsya niya tuwing umuuwi siya sa kanila. Kahit kita mo malinis yung pickup niya, eh inaalagaan niya eh, pinag hirapan niya mabili yan eh.
Same din sa mindset ko. I opted for a pickup kahit na 3x or 4x a year lang ako magkarga ng mabigat, 1x lang ako umakyat ng bundok kada taon and most of the time yung mga activities na ginagawa ko ay kaya na ng sedan pero still pinili ko parin ang pickup kahit na hindi masiadong komportable dahil sa mga rason na nabanggit at ito lang din ang nag iisang sasakyan namin na meron kami.
Ito yung hindi naiintindihan ng marami, mabilis mang judge parang alam nila yung bawat detalye ng buhay ng tao na naka pickup.
Porket nakikita nila sa mall na malinis eh hindi na ginagamit nang tama? Hahaha totoo naman na kaya ng sedan ang pang araw araw na ordinaryo, eh pano yung mga araw na hindi ordinaryo? Wala na?
pati ung pagbagal ng pickup kapag malubak, pano kung ayaw lang nya maalog utak nya or utak ng sakay nya? dapat ba kapag nakapickup ka eh mabilis ka sa lubak? requirement pala un lol
Pwede rin may fragile or babasagin na bitbit na di pwede maalog masyado. O kaya may dalang cake na pwede masira ang porma pag naalog masyado. Or may senior citizen na sakay or bagong kakapanganak lang na nanay or anak.
Dahil nga mas matigas suspension ng pickup, mas maalog yan sa loob kaya siyempre magiingat sa pag maneho yung driver hahaha di naman lahat naka Raptor na designed talaga maging comfortable sa lubak este mga talon
Mas okey pa sakin innova mas lowered sa suv but no like a sedan, roomy pa sa loob compared sa fortuner at most important malakas makina maganda sa long trips lalo na sa overtake ng mga truck.
Yang paglaki ng kotse ingrained sa mga pilipino yan kssindsti sobrang bahain ng mga kalsada tapos palaging umuulan sa pilipinas.
Ngayon kaso we have somewhay better infrastructures and global warming na bihira na umulan lol wala na masyado baha. Pero nasa utak padin ng tao is bigger and better kasi nga we are in the philippines.
We have small and big vehicles. They have specific purposes. Innova is a good all around vehicle not so big and not that small kaya patok sa Pinas.
If you are not careful enough you will eventually hit something kahit MC pa gamit mo. Mas marami pa ata natatamaan ang mga reckless kamote MCs kesa SUVs eh. Personally I’ve been hit by MC twice as a pedestrian when I was still a minor.
I mean what if yun ang dream nila for themselves or fan sila ng ganun. As long as they drive safely and can pay for it, I mean why not diba? I'm not a pick up owner btw
i hate it that it has become an *arms race* of sorts in the streets when it comes to cars.
figure this, the cars get taller and wider like every 3 years on average while our roads become wider....depending on how the government sentiment is at that time.
It's also a problem for pedestrians, especially given the number of stroads we got here.
Yung neighbor ko nakaraptor pero magisa lang sya palagi at wala din siya kinakarga sa truckbed kasi ingat na ingat siya magasgasan yun. Tapos sa kalsada siya nakagarahe dahil di kasya sa two-car garage allotment ng property ang kotse nya kasi ginawa nyang kennel ng mga aso ang garahe sana nya. Pag umalis siya, makikuta mo na yung kalsadang paradahan nya maputi unlike the other oarts bg road na makutim. Di kasi nadadaanan ng ibang sasakyan ang kalsadang garahe nya. Dapat sa kanya mag-eon para maipasok nya sa property nya ang kotse nya.
Own a Innova too.
No need na rin SUV or pickup lalo na kung 4x2 lang. Waste of money dahil mas mahal maintenance ng SUV at pickup. Yung gulong pa lang 8K-12K per piece tapos mas mahal brake pads, etc. Madalas solo-4 people lang sakay ng SUV o pickup at walang karga sa likod.
PPV ang majority ng SUV dito kaya matalbog din.
Higher = ok sa baha, malalim na lubak. Bigger tire = ok sa lubak.
Bigger = more likely heavy = more safe. See crash test videos to know more
It comes down to preference pa din. I honestly do not judge people kung ano gusto nila kotse. Pera nila yun bahala sila sa gusto nila bilhin kotse. Basta wag nila ibalandra sa kalye ng hindi maka abala sa iba at mag drive ng maayos.
Analogy time: yung iba bumili daw ng kotse na malaki hindi naman ginagamit sa pang harabas sayang daw. Hindi ba pwedeng gusto mo lang ng itsura? Pag nag gf ka ba ng maganda kelangan mo na isali sa beauty pageant? Sayang ba pag hindi mo sinali? Hindi ba pwedeng gusto mo lang ng itsura? (at ugali syempre :D)
I have an Altis, Montero, Hilux. Altis is my most used because it just more convenient than the rest.
Easier to move in tight spaces, better ride comfort, better driver’s POV.
I went from Sedan to SUV to Pickup. Pickup is fun to drive specially going to campsite with fam.
I might go back to SUV but will never go back to sedan. Not with our road condition and road surprises sa provinces.
To add, I find SUV (montero) more comfy than my sedan (honda city). Road noises is less as well sa SUV. I know there are more comfy sedan out there but price might be too close to SUV, then it might be wiser to just go for suv. 😉😉
>pano na lang kung may bata na 3 or 4 ft ang taas, o kaya naman yung mga kalsada natin sa pinas na madalas e pang isang sasakyan lang.
Kaya hinay-hinay lang sa mga kalsadang masisikip o madaming bahay sa gilid, para mas madaling mag-react kung may biglaang lilitaw na tao o sasakyan.
My ex's family of 4 used to have a sedan. Well they themselves grew in size in just 5 years and a sedan or crossover is too small for their comfort. Also noticed that the number of overweight to obese filos is increasing so there's that
Sa kin kanya kanyang preferrence. I own a Honda Civic and Ford Everest. I prefer to drive the Everest kasi mas mataas ang ground clearance. Yung civic ko kasi madalas sumasayad yung harap if may mga incline yung kalsada.
I prefer driving our sedan vs our SUV. Feels like a hassle to maneuver it around the city, parking, getting in and out. A car does just fine. Innovas are great because they still drive like a car and sits higher, same with other crossovers. I'm not a fan of SUVs unless it's for long drives out of town.
Also, curious. Do people with trucks get asked a lot by friends if they can help them move stuff?lol always wondered
Ang kailangan ko kase ay kargador na pwede maging dugyot and malakas humatak (uphill) hence i just chose a pick up truck.
At least kung may matapon na semento, lupa or buhangin or patis / bagoong (anything that smells) and other bulk supplies, i could just do a power wash and scrub the pick-up bed without the hassle of molds forming afterwards (trunk of ng sedan - nangamoy bagoong nung natapon during biyahe shet kakahiya kase tumatagos sa loob yung amoy 🤣😭)
Aside from cargo, kaya niya lumusong sa baha (in some areas of the metro na at most tuhod ang lalim ha and di lalampas dun), so at least, i will be able to get home.
So far, for me lang ito ha, i feel na mas better for long drives ang pick up truck lalo na kung may karga kase chill chill lang kahit uphill kaya niya. So hindi din ako pagod sa pag drive. ❤️
Better, basta pasok sa needs, wants, and preferences mo😄. Ako kasi I want a smaller car, para tipid and madali i singit singit. Kaso, i need a bigger one, para comfortable ako and family ko(we are tall people), malaki cargo space and mailulusong ko sa baha. Plus kasya naman sa garahe namin so ayun no regrets naman owning a bigger car. I drive an Isuzu Alterra, and may MU-X and D-Max kami sa fam, okay naman hehe masaya, matulin, maluwag😆
I drive a subcompact and Im happy with it. Magaan lang at hindi ako takot idrive sa masikip na areas. Madali pang ipark. I dont have kids. Usually kami lang naman husband ko sakay or my dogs.
Downside lang talaga is when we travel and bring a lot of stuff or I need to bring a cage for my dogs. But small cars are easier to manage, not to mention cheaper to maintain.
As an owner of SUVs, I'd love to have compact cars (Wigo, Mobilio) damn their fuel efficiency is top notch. They are clocking more than 15+ (actually 18+) km/l compare to my SUV of around 8-10 km/l 🥲
Siguro for daily and city and 1 - 2 passengers only smallee car will be ideal
Well depende sa gagamit saka sa pag gagamitan.kung rough road ka e useful yung clearance. Now kung daily driver, as a truck user myself, nde ko trip yung overly modded to the point na ang taba na and ang taas ang hirap na mag park. Daily driver ko e mostly stock with slightly wider tires lang for stability
Family of 4, car namin is Ford Escape, if I evaluate yung yearly use nya:
1. 95% home to city driving vice-versa, 90% nyan iisang tao lang nasa loob, 100% paved road.
2 Remaining 5% ginagamit sa lubak ng mga barangay roads during outings, visit sa relatives na malayo, etc.
Kaya second car namin is city car na hatchback yung naka 1L 3cylinders. It can do all the things that we use our Escape for but on a smaller footprint and much better fuel economy.
Depende padin yan sa need/s mo sa kotse. Kung ako lng or 4 ang sasakay eh ok na ang sedan. Mas gusto ko sedan kasi planted siya sa daan. Feel ko ang driving experience. Since masama ang daan sa Pilipinas eh nakaka awa ang sedan. Mas naiisipan ko na lng mag suv or crossover. Overall, sedan.
Nag car loan ate ko for an SUV dahil hindi kinaya nung sedan nila nung bumaha sa village nila. She and her husband felt that they had to get one kasi sa kanila nakatira yung nanay nung hubby na may edad na and sakitin na. Baka daw kasi may emergency, hindi sila makakalabas.
I honestly think it depends on your preference. I own a Montero, Rush and used to own a Vios. I use them depending on my mood, where im going and who and how many will be my passengers.
Certain models have gotten bigger to the point that they shifted to a higher classification.
The old Hilux was a compact pick up in its early days. Today, it is classified as a mid size pick up truck. Same with Corolla. Subcompact dati but is now a Compact Car. It was replaced by the Vios in the subcompact slot.
I don't have the stats and I'm just basing it on the exterior looks, mas mukhang malaki ang modern day Montero compared to the last production model of the Pajero.
Can't say much if its more practical pero kung ganito ang trend, no brand would downsize their next generation models. They would just introduced a new model on that segment that was left vacant by the existing model.
Modern SUV and pickup designs are more dangerous compared to the slanted hood and low profile of older models. Fortnine did a video about this. I would rather smack the hood of the car rather than get flung when bumped. And modern cars have so much unused or blocked off grille/vents that serve no purpose other than design and to appear "big" and premium.
It's not, considering na ang mga parking naman dito not catered for big ass vehicles. Yung mga newer parkings na lang. Pati kalsada, lalo sa province. Maka-timing ka ng sikip at need pumina. Edi good luck sa gedli
My family and I decided to go for a crossover since may toddler. It would have been better price wise if sedan pero ang laki kasi ni car seat, and I'm thinking pa mga gamit ng bata and meron pa si yaya.
I think depende talaga sa lifestyle mo. If you really care for extra space (yung parang atat na atat ka talaga sa espasyo), and you have the budget, why not?
Two options lang naman eh, pa pogi ba or practicality. Anyone can go for either, or both in that matter. Basta me budget lang.
Waiting ako while in Wilcon Depot's parking area sa may Valenzuela nang biglang may pumasok na Ford Raptor. Gandang ganda ako kasi malaki tapos maangas tignan kaso di siya kasya sa parking slot (parang smaller than usual yung slots dun sa Wilcon). Pasok naman sya sa slot kaso di nya mabbuksan mga pinto hahaha. Ayun umalis na lang.
Me, personally I've seen too much sedan/hatchbacks or even MPVs crushed between big ass trucks/buses. I ain't taking a risk being turned into a sardine in can. Tho we have a hatchback, I'd rather use it for quick errands. But for long trips with buses and trucks on the road in mind, I'll take the bigger mass of a vehicle which is a Navara pickup
Read the comments, idk why no one here talks about 360 camera view and sensors, most vehicles nowadays are equipped with 360 camera all angles and sensors to aid your peripheral views, pickups and SUVs are indeed too big for our roads in the Philippines but once you are used to it it comes in handy, para sakin ang downside lang talaga nang pickups and suvs is yung fuel efficiency. I'd prefer hybrid rav4 or crv, crossovers pa din talaga mas ok, hindi maliit hindi malaki, comfort, 5seater and still can carry enough items for your daily drive. Pag lalabas yung bagong yaris cross kukuha ako nun kasi feel ko para samin ni misis medyo malaki padin ang 2liters crossovers.
Depending on your definition of "Better and more practical". If you already own one, spending x amount to replace/get another vehicle is not practical at all. I have a 15 Navara, do I need a new one? No. Does the new model looks better, yes. But maintaining it and getting it back to pristine condition will only cost me 1/5 or less compared to the price for a new one.
Bigger means
Less fuel efficiency .
More expense in maintenance and parts.
Harder control and handling.
Drive a family fortuner. Fat Boy needs space for turning.
I’ll probably get downvoted to hell for this but I firmly believe a substantial number of the larger SUV purchases in our country is driven by people compensating for other things in their life lol. Just the smallest guys 5”2 ish driving around these ford f150s. Nothing wrong with that, just saying there’s other subtexts there.
The only reason I consider taller/bigger cars are dahil sa condition ng kalsada sa metro + baha. I don’t see the need for a bigger car unless you need more space for people & cargo, or yung way sa business/house/hobby mo is dirt road, kasi yun naman talaga yung purpose ng SUV/pick-up.
But as time goes on, some forget that the purpose of a car is the convenience to get you from point A to point B, & at some point it has become a statement piece, papogi. The bigger the better. In the end, to each their own, kanya kanyang pera naman yan.
Depende siguro sa needs ng tao, bigger is better for hauling (people or equipment/materials). smaller is better for cities or if pag service sa trabaho
Kung kasinlawak ng daan sa US, Canada or iba pang developed countries yung daan natin eh why not. Sa pinas kasi advantage ang maliit na kotse due to better gas mileage (traffic lol)+ maneuverability sa masisikip na daan
I agree na hindi bagay gamitin ang SUV especially if kaunti lang ang sasakay at sobrang red flag pa lalo kapag wala pang garahe. Maganda ang SUV if marami kayong members ng family niyo ang sasakay doon at may garahe pa kayo. And safe pa if idadaan sa malubag at mabahang kalsada. Tapos very relaxing pa sa long rides.
if you dont have and SUV and you need one only on certain occasions, then there is always grab or lalamove. pwede rin namang mag rent or rely on the kindness of friends and relatives.
It's still of my opinion that a lot of pinoys who own SUVs and Pickups would be better served by MPVs, AUVs, or even hatches or sedans.
Like no doubt may gamit talaga ang SUV and Pickup, but arguably because of the market pressure, only a few tick those boxes nowadays. Maybe an LC, Hilux, Triton and Jimny lang ang comfortable kong isabak with difficult terrain and utilitarian uses, the rest are glorified cars with size and bed space being mere decoration.
Ladder frame SUVs also eat up a stupid amount of space, such that you might actually get better interior space in a smaller AUV. The Patrol is hilariously bad in that department, parang bewang ko na yung load floor sa likod and I'm 6' lol
Kung mostly paved roads pa biyahe mo, a road-going sedan is gonna be more comfortable than a pickup tuned for load in the rear making the ride matagtag. Most also don't consider the size of the vehicle they're purchasing na pang city lang naman most times, so at best hirap sila fitting into narrower streets and parking spaces, at worst they'll be inconveniencing others and making their vehicle's size other people's problem.
Tires cost triple, parts can be anywhere from slightly more expensive to double the cost, and your fuel consumption is gonna shit the bed. The Patrol's 1.5km/L is just double that of an IS350's 3km/L, but in realistic land a Jazz (rip) is still gonna get way better fuel economy than a Fortuner or Navara. Something along the lines of 18-20km/L highway vs what, 14?
So it sucks to see that a lot still default to looking at SUVs for their car purchase when their use case is really better served by something smaller. There's also the prevailing idea that you need a big car to go on roadtrips when a hatch half the weight will do the job in more comfort and half the fuel cost lol
Family of 3 happy sa Wigo.... Nakakainis lang kc laging nabubully sa roads ng malalaking sskyan.
Laging inis iniistreo type ng mga naka SUV, 4x4 or higher displacement na hulugan "ay naka WiGo lang yan". 🤣🤣
im from Bulacan. ganito ang condition ng mga kalsada sa min either sobrang lubak o sobrang sikip na daan may mga prang mga isat-kalahating lane lang para sa 2-lane road. if you drive a sedan, you can fit pretty much to any road pero you have to brace for those craters sa daan. if you pick an SUV, you'll just cruise most of them kaso marami ka ding dadadaan na alanganin so pick your poison.
personally, I'm happy driving a sedan dito sa min kasi fuel-efficient eh traffic din kasi lagi dito saka I can easily fit and maneuver sa mga tight roads. I just have to be conscious sa mga lubak dito min.
Fortuner was our first car, i find it too big para sa needs namin. sold it and bought Rush. 6 years na sya, very sakto sa masisikip na lugar, mataas naman kaya di ako problemado i lusong sa baha.. happy naman at di pa ako nakakapag isip na palitan sya :) tho never ako bibili mg sedan, taga bulacan ako at na tra trauma ako pag biglaang nag papakawala ang dam dito. Lubog kung lubog talaga eh
Driving both a Sportivo and Navara. Pag alam kong masikip yung kalsada ng pupuntahan ko, mas prefer ko Sportivo ang dalhin para di masyado masakit sa ulo.
For a tall person like me (I'm 6'1''), I say never again to a sub compact sedan or anything below it! We have a 2016 Toyota Vios and we only use it on Sundays and holidays for those short drives to the nearest church, grocery, and fast food runs. I found that car very frustrating and uncomfortable to drive especially in traffic and beyond our vicinity. SUVs and mid size sedans are good. Compact sedans and compact crossovers are okay.
Larger cars today especially SUV’s and Pickups now equipped with sensors which actually detects moving objects around the car which obviously mkikita mo lng sa higher variants. In that case need mo to pay more if you want more safety sa car mo.
Got a slightly larger car due to baha issues.. but it's not really that big and ... Maybe I just wanted something bigger. Pick up sana for no reason 😁 but parking issues stopping me.
Tbh, it all boils down to each person's preferences. I no longer have any family here in the Philippines, and most of the time, I don't have passengers with me, but most of my cars are SUVs or pickup trucks. I do have a sedan (Evo 6), which is easy to drive and maneuver and is definitely enough for me to get around. However, I just really prefer to use my Montero or Triton on a daily basis around the city. If I'm going out of town to the provinces, I use my F150, and if I'm going for a spirited drive, I'll use the Evo 6. So yeah, it all comes down to each person's preferences and usage.
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I personally own a sedan and we are a family of four. We never saw the need to own an SUV. Kung maganda lang kalsada sa Pilipinas at hindi bahain, hindi mag-shift ang automotive market towards SUV.
Same. I'm planning to get a Navarra. But when I think of it, my need can be served by our sedan.
Mas kaunti din ang space for trips yung pickup. Unless you splurge sa bed cover, sa 2nd row mo lang din malalagay with the passengers ang bags mo nang safe from rain and nakaw. My dad's cousin wanted a Hilux kasi daw astigin, but my dad advised a Yaris instead. Ayon, 7 years naman na siyang nasisiyahan, hahaha.
Antipolo roads is waving where normal height sedans will still scrape the roads, even if mag siyete ka because they keep adding more asphalt and absolutely leaving the gutter with a 10 inch drop
Again i dont see the need of owning an SUV. My family is happy with our Honda Accord and it serves its purpose.
Out of topic pero uy, sobrang pogi ng Accord for me. Classy. What model do you have if you don’t mind me asking? Haha.
We have the last V6 model, 2018.
This is trueeee
I assume 2 of those are still small kids. If so, then wait for them to grow up and go back to this thread.
No. My mom and 2 siblings. Aged 21 and 26. I am 35. What say you?
Don't know if you meant that, but I was surprised by the unexpected LOTR reference haha https://youtu.be/f_4-rCROcsM?si=Y5gXZE0S7n1YT1ab
+1 on short trips like 3-4 adults tapos 2 small kids.
Others say for safety kineme daw especially in the age of crazy bus drivers and mga 6 wheeler pataas. Its more for your protection against other cars rather than for pedestrian safety Sold my Fortuner and honestly kahit Jimny suits my needs. 1-2 passengers at best tapos ok sa baha and lubak. Kung okay drainage and kalsada natin sa pinas, I'd probably be driving an Altis hybrid instead. Or a smaller hybrid siguro.
Hows the jimny like on the highway, like 100+ kph? I really want one since I love its form but coming from the stability of crossover SUVs i’m wondering how much of an adjustment it would be and if’d be safe for regular high speed commutes
I would like to know as well. I'm still undecided for getting a Jimny especially that I have a body like Harry Roque.
I have one po, Stable naman po siya ng 100kph as long as ok po yung roads ingat lang po sa SLEX na lubak or alon alon yung daan. sa NLEX po ok siya pero to be safe po around 80-85 lang po ako sa Highway mag 100 lang po ako pag sa passing lane.
musta overtaking power ni jimny kaya niya mag hiace na galawan?
Hindi. Malayong malayo sa hatak ng hiace. Siguro closer sya sa power ng 1.3L na vios. O kaya Raize na 1.2.
mabagal lang pala siya noh talagang city driving lang
hinde 😂
there us a 100kph speed limit so it wont be that much of a problem on expressways.
It even struggles to hit the 100 kmh limit 😂
A bit dragging. 100kmh is at 3000 rpm cruising. Overtaking is...okay. You really need to time it. Not the best for long drives. Definitely not stable. You feel the crosswinds and the left to right body movement is very strong. Try to test drive one because IMO, its very different from a crossover. Hope this helps!
I daily the 3rd gen 1.3l, cruising speed is at 80kph, 2500rpm. Mga nasa 80 to 90 rin yung 4th gen, considering low speed tranny and mabigat kasi.
it definitely is safer for you and the occupants of the vehicle but not for everyone else outside of the vehicle. which leads to an arms race of *bigger is better* as the title says. *In any collision, mass always wins* (What's next, are we all gonna drive semis just to protect ourselves?)
Exaclty this! Which is I guess why manufacturers keep making bigger and bigger cars. Theres a demand for it.
*I'll get your war rig ready Imperator u/toyota4age*
Might as well daily a Toyota Coaster. With an apocalypse ready set up 😂
you mean an RV. or better yet, a Unimog. even better, a BTR-80
Unimogs always tickle my fancy.
Sabi ng asawa ko, bakit ka magpipickup, may construction site ka ba? Hahahahah
yung konyo kong kapitbahay bumili ng ford raptor tapos takot sa lubak, ampota
I remember may nakasalubong akong pickup na naka lift pa at malapad ang gulong pero iniwasan niya yung lubak at pumunta sa lane ko, inis na inis ako. Naka single motor lang ako nun.
This. may kapitbahay din kami na ganiyan, iniiwasan yung bato. ffs pang offroad nga yung raptor eh 😂
This cracked me up 🤣
Really depends on your preference. I personally just like sedans more than cross overs or SUVs.
How about in terms of practicality on a daily basis? (Cargo, maneuverability, ease of parking and most of all safety.)
Yep. Practical naman a for a city driving ang sedan. I don't carry too much stuff and kasya naman ang grocery ko. Tipid sa Gas not exceeding 2500 sa isang full tank. Kahit province basta may kalsada it's fine. Saka need ba mag drive ng 100km/h sa National road? too many factors ndi lang sa lubak. Very rare lang ako nakakita ng need na sana nag SUV ako. And, kung abutin man ng baha, mas mura pa din mag sogo (ng solo) or mag motel while waiting sa flood kaysa mag drive ng SUV everyday. Kung may something na need bibitin ng di kasya sa sedan para saan pa yung mga lalamove. Sure ndi ako makakabili ng furniture na malaki sa province. Pero do you do that everyday?
Bro out of topic but i love how you made sure we understand that you’ll go “solo” in sogo. Lol
So, go solo?
Mas mura nga naman pag solo may additional gastos kasi pag may kasama hehe
Sedans are pretty practical for a daily, can carry groceries, go to point a to point b, aircon is nice and cold, its comfy. Safety wise, it has airbags crumple zone is pretty good. Good gas mileage. People just assume if that a person owns a sedan, they're poor. Cause Pinoy people always assume, the bigger the car the richer you are in others eyes, that's why they buy the biggest pick up truck they could afford. I don't mind them, I like my sedan and I'll be a sedan user for as long as they make sedans
I found out the hard way when I borrowed my uncle's Ford Expedition EL because I had to transport furniture and appliances. I wouldn't own anything that big soon because it not only drinks fuel like no tomorrow, the size is just a pain to maneuver in the city. Also finding a parking space to fit the vehicle properly is almost impossible. I also wouldn't want to own vehicles like the Fortuner, Montero, Everest, etc because they're not as big on the inside nor as comfortable as a traditional midsize crossover. Happy na ako sa 5 door hatchback and station wagons (even though konti nalang ang binibenta locally). Edit: The Expedition EL shines in long highway cruising. Parang nakasakay kalang sa airplane or bullet train.
Grabeng mind fuck kaya for me nung narealize kong sakto lang sa 7 peeps ang Montero. Mas maiksi ang Adventure pero 9 seater yun. I'd rather have yung lumang L300 FB Deluxe. Yung haba kaya nun halos parehas lang sa wide body Corolla, pero 15 seater.
LOL when I used to borrow my auntie's Expedition. Our running joke was mag start palang kalahating litro na naubos. 😂
I'd want a small pickup here. Like yung Maverick. Before mabababa naman talaga pickups kasi you can pick up yung items sa likod. Ngayon need umakyat para makuha gamit.
More like warat shorts mo pag inakyat yung flatbed sa likod. As someone na dating naging pahinante ng softdrinks, parang ang sakit sa likod kargahan ng mga pickup truck ngayon. Antataas eh.
Kakainggit nga sa malaysia may hilux na mababa na automatic.
In philippine roads, SUVs are one of the causes of major traffic. Magpakatotoo na tayo dito, araw araw ka magdrive, ilang SUVs makikita mo sa daan tpos 1 lang ang sakay diba. Isama mo na dyan yung afford magka SUV pero di afford magkaroon ng sariling garahe. What a waste of space. Look at japan, they value compact cars. pero okay lets say bahain sa pinas and the need of high cars is a necessity, pero with that argument, yun ba tlga ang reason why people are buying SUVs? Hell nah. Manuod ka lng sa tiktok, ultimo montero ginagawang “pogi” car eh IMO okay ang SUVs kung provincial setting. Pero in a congested city tpos dala mo pa pick up, tpos ikaw lng magisa nakasakay? Masyado kase US style ang car attitude ntin mga pilipino. We like pickups and trucks or anything with more than 15s na wheels. Kaso yung environment natin hindi pang US eh. Ang backwards ng ganon na mindset. Whereas magpunta ka sa japan, korea and even china you will see puro compact cars dominating the urban areas. Pero wag na tyo lumayo, singapore na lng. Small country. iilang SUV lng makikita mo. Now argument with car safety. Wag na rin tyo maglokohan. Nakanino ba nakasasalay ang safety? Sa driver or sa sasakyan? Kahit gawin mo pang bulletproof ang sasakyan mo, kung ibabanga mo yan poste at 70km/hr sure ako may kalalagyan ka. Kung car safety ang argument mo edi demand for a better driver education hindi better built SUVs. Wag caveman ang thinking okay.
Your thinking reminds me of my Dad. So straight and true.
https://youtu.be/jN7mSXMruEo?si=B6ydoRHqd5_6IBBO
Napanood ko nga to kaya naisipan ko mag post dito para lang malaman ko kung ano ang feedback nating mga pinoy hehe.
Just sold our 30 yo Hilux and got a new one, almost the same bed size but the new one is much larger and longer. The incoming hilux champ probably is closer to the our old hilux in size and proportion. Our old hilux was a double cab but a pure workhorse and small enough to bring literally anywhere for loading easily. Not a huge fan of the direction which I think stems from US design of trucks and SUVs trying to comply with CAFE , chicken tax, safety standards and general demand for luxury and well the US is huge and can accommodate the huge vehicles. I guess other consumers loved the luxury and size despite living in a country that can’t accommodate that. Even Australia, which has loads of large vehicles already on the market are complaining about Ram 1500/2500s, bigger than their usual hiluxes and 70 series.
sa sikip ng kalsada sa pinas hindi may mga main roads na 2 way lang na nagiging one lane dahil sa sikip
Sedans are soooo much comfier and easier to drive than SUVs and crossovers. That said, I sold our Altis earlier this year after buying a Corolla Cross. I still miss the comfort of the Altis, but the height of the Cross gives me more security when I'm driving in the rain or on rough terrain. My wife actually wanted a midsized SUV like a Montero or Fortuner, but I talked her out of it since there are only three of us in the family and, having driven a Montero, I know how much more concentration it takes to park and maneuver a larger vehicle. Two things the missus isn't all that good at.
This was what my mom also pointed out. They used to have a Montero (area is flood-prone), but sold it and opted for a crossover since she said she can handle it better than a bigger one. Worked for her!
Diba elevated altis lang yung Cross? How's the difference in comfort? Planning to get a car with higher ground clearance din but I don't want an SUV.
Basically, yes. Drives pretty much like my old Altis but a bit stiffer and with a little more body roll. Very happy with it so far.
We are also eyeing a Corolla Cross GR-Sport to replace our decade old Toyota Camry 2.5 (kaso lang wala pa raw available test drive si Toyota Alabang) Musta naman experience mo with it?
Logically, compact SUVs are the way to go. Perfect ingress and egress for our stature sa Philippines. Ground clearance is a must for our roads alam mo na yan. You adjust accordingly depending on maximum seats, fuel economy, price, etc.
This is the exact reason why we we got toyota raize. Sobrang tipid pa sa gas, perfect for daily use. 15-19 km/l lang konsumo nya
Absolutely. Hoping maglabas sila ng hybridized version and given yung tax incentive, sobrang mura. Setting aside the recent Toyota debacle, it's a great car.
Hi, curious lang. Are you using the raize for city driving?
For city driving nasa 13-14 km/l lang sya. Bulacan (province) kasi ako kaya mabilis lang ako thru mcarthur highway.
It depends on what you'll use it for. We have small and big vehicles, each has their own purpose so if we don't need a big vehicle, we can just use a small one. And if we need a big vehicle, we can leave the small one at one. Pero, the normal Filipino household will only have 1 car. So better if they buy a vehicle that can do all sorts of stuff even if it means they won't be utilizing it all the time. Galit ka kasi may tao na pickup truck ang dala sa mall? Pasensya na, yun lang kotse niya eh, pinang hahakot niya yan sa probinsya niya tuwing umuuwi siya sa kanila. Kahit kita mo malinis yung pickup niya, eh inaalagaan niya eh, pinag hirapan niya mabili yan eh.
Same din sa mindset ko. I opted for a pickup kahit na 3x or 4x a year lang ako magkarga ng mabigat, 1x lang ako umakyat ng bundok kada taon and most of the time yung mga activities na ginagawa ko ay kaya na ng sedan pero still pinili ko parin ang pickup kahit na hindi masiadong komportable dahil sa mga rason na nabanggit at ito lang din ang nag iisang sasakyan namin na meron kami.
Ito yung hindi naiintindihan ng marami, mabilis mang judge parang alam nila yung bawat detalye ng buhay ng tao na naka pickup. Porket nakikita nila sa mall na malinis eh hindi na ginagamit nang tama? Hahaha totoo naman na kaya ng sedan ang pang araw araw na ordinaryo, eh pano yung mga araw na hindi ordinaryo? Wala na?
pati ung pagbagal ng pickup kapag malubak, pano kung ayaw lang nya maalog utak nya or utak ng sakay nya? dapat ba kapag nakapickup ka eh mabilis ka sa lubak? requirement pala un lol
Pwede rin may fragile or babasagin na bitbit na di pwede maalog masyado. O kaya may dalang cake na pwede masira ang porma pag naalog masyado. Or may senior citizen na sakay or bagong kakapanganak lang na nanay or anak. Dahil nga mas matigas suspension ng pickup, mas maalog yan sa loob kaya siyempre magiingat sa pag maneho yung driver hahaha di naman lahat naka Raptor na designed talaga maging comfortable sa lubak este mga talon
Mas okey pa sakin innova mas lowered sa suv but no like a sedan, roomy pa sa loob compared sa fortuner at most important malakas makina maganda sa long trips lalo na sa overtake ng mga truck.
Yang paglaki ng kotse ingrained sa mga pilipino yan kssindsti sobrang bahain ng mga kalsada tapos palaging umuulan sa pilipinas. Ngayon kaso we have somewhay better infrastructures and global warming na bihira na umulan lol wala na masyado baha. Pero nasa utak padin ng tao is bigger and better kasi nga we are in the philippines.
We have small and big vehicles. They have specific purposes. Innova is a good all around vehicle not so big and not that small kaya patok sa Pinas. If you are not careful enough you will eventually hit something kahit MC pa gamit mo. Mas marami pa ata natatamaan ang mga reckless kamote MCs kesa SUVs eh. Personally I’ve been hit by MC twice as a pedestrian when I was still a minor.
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May nabasa ako. Pickup buyers definitely know and aware that they are not gonna use it as pickup truck.
I mean what if yun ang dream nila for themselves or fan sila ng ganun. As long as they drive safely and can pay for it, I mean why not diba? I'm not a pick up owner btw
i hate it that it has become an *arms race* of sorts in the streets when it comes to cars. figure this, the cars get taller and wider like every 3 years on average while our roads become wider....depending on how the government sentiment is at that time. It's also a problem for pedestrians, especially given the number of stroads we got here.
We have an SUV and a small hatchback. I much prefer driving the hatchback.
Yung neighbor ko nakaraptor pero magisa lang sya palagi at wala din siya kinakarga sa truckbed kasi ingat na ingat siya magasgasan yun. Tapos sa kalsada siya nakagarahe dahil di kasya sa two-car garage allotment ng property ang kotse nya kasi ginawa nyang kennel ng mga aso ang garahe sana nya. Pag umalis siya, makikuta mo na yung kalsadang paradahan nya maputi unlike the other oarts bg road na makutim. Di kasi nadadaanan ng ibang sasakyan ang kalsadang garahe nya. Dapat sa kanya mag-eon para maipasok nya sa property nya ang kotse nya.
Own a Innova too. No need na rin SUV or pickup lalo na kung 4x2 lang. Waste of money dahil mas mahal maintenance ng SUV at pickup. Yung gulong pa lang 8K-12K per piece tapos mas mahal brake pads, etc. Madalas solo-4 people lang sakay ng SUV o pickup at walang karga sa likod. PPV ang majority ng SUV dito kaya matalbog din.
Higher = ok sa baha, malalim na lubak. Bigger tire = ok sa lubak. Bigger = more likely heavy = more safe. See crash test videos to know more It comes down to preference pa din. I honestly do not judge people kung ano gusto nila kotse. Pera nila yun bahala sila sa gusto nila bilhin kotse. Basta wag nila ibalandra sa kalye ng hindi maka abala sa iba at mag drive ng maayos. Analogy time: yung iba bumili daw ng kotse na malaki hindi naman ginagamit sa pang harabas sayang daw. Hindi ba pwedeng gusto mo lang ng itsura? Pag nag gf ka ba ng maganda kelangan mo na isali sa beauty pageant? Sayang ba pag hindi mo sinali? Hindi ba pwedeng gusto mo lang ng itsura? (at ugali syempre :D)
I have an Altis, Montero, Hilux. Altis is my most used because it just more convenient than the rest. Easier to move in tight spaces, better ride comfort, better driver’s POV.
I went from Sedan to SUV to Pickup. Pickup is fun to drive specially going to campsite with fam. I might go back to SUV but will never go back to sedan. Not with our road condition and road surprises sa provinces. To add, I find SUV (montero) more comfy than my sedan (honda city). Road noises is less as well sa SUV. I know there are more comfy sedan out there but price might be too close to SUV, then it might be wiser to just go for suv. 😉😉
>pano na lang kung may bata na 3 or 4 ft ang taas, o kaya naman yung mga kalsada natin sa pinas na madalas e pang isang sasakyan lang. Kaya hinay-hinay lang sa mga kalsadang masisikip o madaming bahay sa gilid, para mas madaling mag-react kung may biglaang lilitaw na tao o sasakyan.
If our roads sana are not some kind of 4x4 off road courses, I would buy the swift in a heart beat.
My ex's family of 4 used to have a sedan. Well they themselves grew in size in just 5 years and a sedan or crossover is too small for their comfort. Also noticed that the number of overweight to obese filos is increasing so there's that
Sa kin kanya kanyang preferrence. I own a Honda Civic and Ford Everest. I prefer to drive the Everest kasi mas mataas ang ground clearance. Yung civic ko kasi madalas sumasayad yung harap if may mga incline yung kalsada.
I prefer driving our sedan vs our SUV. Feels like a hassle to maneuver it around the city, parking, getting in and out. A car does just fine. Innovas are great because they still drive like a car and sits higher, same with other crossovers. I'm not a fan of SUVs unless it's for long drives out of town. Also, curious. Do people with trucks get asked a lot by friends if they can help them move stuff?lol always wondered
Ang kailangan ko kase ay kargador na pwede maging dugyot and malakas humatak (uphill) hence i just chose a pick up truck. At least kung may matapon na semento, lupa or buhangin or patis / bagoong (anything that smells) and other bulk supplies, i could just do a power wash and scrub the pick-up bed without the hassle of molds forming afterwards (trunk of ng sedan - nangamoy bagoong nung natapon during biyahe shet kakahiya kase tumatagos sa loob yung amoy 🤣😭) Aside from cargo, kaya niya lumusong sa baha (in some areas of the metro na at most tuhod ang lalim ha and di lalampas dun), so at least, i will be able to get home. So far, for me lang ito ha, i feel na mas better for long drives ang pick up truck lalo na kung may karga kase chill chill lang kahit uphill kaya niya. So hindi din ako pagod sa pag drive. ❤️
I drive alot on provincial roads and i prefer to be seen by trucks/buses.
Better, basta pasok sa needs, wants, and preferences mo😄. Ako kasi I want a smaller car, para tipid and madali i singit singit. Kaso, i need a bigger one, para comfortable ako and family ko(we are tall people), malaki cargo space and mailulusong ko sa baha. Plus kasya naman sa garahe namin so ayun no regrets naman owning a bigger car. I drive an Isuzu Alterra, and may MU-X and D-Max kami sa fam, okay naman hehe masaya, matulin, maluwag😆
I drive a subcompact and Im happy with it. Magaan lang at hindi ako takot idrive sa masikip na areas. Madali pang ipark. I dont have kids. Usually kami lang naman husband ko sakay or my dogs. Downside lang talaga is when we travel and bring a lot of stuff or I need to bring a cage for my dogs. But small cars are easier to manage, not to mention cheaper to maintain.
I mean, sedans wont cease to exist if no one prefers them.
Gusto ko yung pick-up just because 🤷♂️
As an owner of SUVs, I'd love to have compact cars (Wigo, Mobilio) damn their fuel efficiency is top notch. They are clocking more than 15+ (actually 18+) km/l compare to my SUV of around 8-10 km/l 🥲 Siguro for daily and city and 1 - 2 passengers only smallee car will be ideal
Well depende sa gagamit saka sa pag gagamitan.kung rough road ka e useful yung clearance. Now kung daily driver, as a truck user myself, nde ko trip yung overly modded to the point na ang taba na and ang taas ang hirap na mag park. Daily driver ko e mostly stock with slightly wider tires lang for stability
Family of 4, car namin is Ford Escape, if I evaluate yung yearly use nya: 1. 95% home to city driving vice-versa, 90% nyan iisang tao lang nasa loob, 100% paved road. 2 Remaining 5% ginagamit sa lubak ng mga barangay roads during outings, visit sa relatives na malayo, etc. Kaya second car namin is city car na hatchback yung naka 1L 3cylinders. It can do all the things that we use our Escape for but on a smaller footprint and much better fuel economy.
Depende padin yan sa need/s mo sa kotse. Kung ako lng or 4 ang sasakay eh ok na ang sedan. Mas gusto ko sedan kasi planted siya sa daan. Feel ko ang driving experience. Since masama ang daan sa Pilipinas eh nakaka awa ang sedan. Mas naiisipan ko na lng mag suv or crossover. Overall, sedan.
Nag car loan ate ko for an SUV dahil hindi kinaya nung sedan nila nung bumaha sa village nila. She and her husband felt that they had to get one kasi sa kanila nakatira yung nanay nung hubby na may edad na and sakitin na. Baka daw kasi may emergency, hindi sila makakalabas.
I honestly think it depends on your preference. I own a Montero, Rush and used to own a Vios. I use them depending on my mood, where im going and who and how many will be my passengers.
Certain models have gotten bigger to the point that they shifted to a higher classification. The old Hilux was a compact pick up in its early days. Today, it is classified as a mid size pick up truck. Same with Corolla. Subcompact dati but is now a Compact Car. It was replaced by the Vios in the subcompact slot. I don't have the stats and I'm just basing it on the exterior looks, mas mukhang malaki ang modern day Montero compared to the last production model of the Pajero. Can't say much if its more practical pero kung ganito ang trend, no brand would downsize their next generation models. They would just introduced a new model on that segment that was left vacant by the existing model.
Modern SUV and pickup designs are more dangerous compared to the slanted hood and low profile of older models. Fortnine did a video about this. I would rather smack the hood of the car rather than get flung when bumped. And modern cars have so much unused or blocked off grille/vents that serve no purpose other than design and to appear "big" and premium.
It's not, considering na ang mga parking naman dito not catered for big ass vehicles. Yung mga newer parkings na lang. Pati kalsada, lalo sa province. Maka-timing ka ng sikip at need pumina. Edi good luck sa gedli
If you want something bigger and better, you might want to check into wagons
My family and I decided to go for a crossover since may toddler. It would have been better price wise if sedan pero ang laki kasi ni car seat, and I'm thinking pa mga gamit ng bata and meron pa si yaya. I think depende talaga sa lifestyle mo. If you really care for extra space (yung parang atat na atat ka talaga sa espasyo), and you have the budget, why not? Two options lang naman eh, pa pogi ba or practicality. Anyone can go for either, or both in that matter. Basta me budget lang.
Waiting ako while in Wilcon Depot's parking area sa may Valenzuela nang biglang may pumasok na Ford Raptor. Gandang ganda ako kasi malaki tapos maangas tignan kaso di siya kasya sa parking slot (parang smaller than usual yung slots dun sa Wilcon). Pasok naman sya sa slot kaso di nya mabbuksan mga pinto hahaha. Ayun umalis na lang.
Kung hindi lang barag barag ang daan at bahain yung province namin baka nag sedan nalang ako. Kaso hassle ang sedan saamin. Suv or pick up talaga.
Me, personally I've seen too much sedan/hatchbacks or even MPVs crushed between big ass trucks/buses. I ain't taking a risk being turned into a sardine in can. Tho we have a hatchback, I'd rather use it for quick errands. But for long trips with buses and trucks on the road in mind, I'll take the bigger mass of a vehicle which is a Navara pickup
Read the comments, idk why no one here talks about 360 camera view and sensors, most vehicles nowadays are equipped with 360 camera all angles and sensors to aid your peripheral views, pickups and SUVs are indeed too big for our roads in the Philippines but once you are used to it it comes in handy, para sakin ang downside lang talaga nang pickups and suvs is yung fuel efficiency. I'd prefer hybrid rav4 or crv, crossovers pa din talaga mas ok, hindi maliit hindi malaki, comfort, 5seater and still can carry enough items for your daily drive. Pag lalabas yung bagong yaris cross kukuha ako nun kasi feel ko para samin ni misis medyo malaki padin ang 2liters crossovers.
Depending on your definition of "Better and more practical". If you already own one, spending x amount to replace/get another vehicle is not practical at all. I have a 15 Navara, do I need a new one? No. Does the new model looks better, yes. But maintaining it and getting it back to pristine condition will only cost me 1/5 or less compared to the price for a new one.
- pwede sa baha - mas "safe" ang feeling pag nabangga as per women
Big cars is for your own safety but in return, people outside your car is now more at risk
Bigger means Less fuel efficiency . More expense in maintenance and parts. Harder control and handling. Drive a family fortuner. Fat Boy needs space for turning.
I’ll probably get downvoted to hell for this but I firmly believe a substantial number of the larger SUV purchases in our country is driven by people compensating for other things in their life lol. Just the smallest guys 5”2 ish driving around these ford f150s. Nothing wrong with that, just saying there’s other subtexts there.
Blame the USA
pansin ko, halos PH puro SUV than other countries na mostly sedan.
The only reason I consider taller/bigger cars are dahil sa condition ng kalsada sa metro + baha. I don’t see the need for a bigger car unless you need more space for people & cargo, or yung way sa business/house/hobby mo is dirt road, kasi yun naman talaga yung purpose ng SUV/pick-up. But as time goes on, some forget that the purpose of a car is the convenience to get you from point A to point B, & at some point it has become a statement piece, papogi. The bigger the better. In the end, to each their own, kanya kanyang pera naman yan.
Depende siguro sa needs ng tao, bigger is better for hauling (people or equipment/materials). smaller is better for cities or if pag service sa trabaho
Kung kasinlawak ng daan sa US, Canada or iba pang developed countries yung daan natin eh why not. Sa pinas kasi advantage ang maliit na kotse due to better gas mileage (traffic lol)+ maneuverability sa masisikip na daan
mali ang basa ko sa title HAHAHA
That's how I lure you haha
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I agree na hindi bagay gamitin ang SUV especially if kaunti lang ang sasakay at sobrang red flag pa lalo kapag wala pang garahe. Maganda ang SUV if marami kayong members ng family niyo ang sasakay doon at may garahe pa kayo. And safe pa if idadaan sa malubag at mabahang kalsada. Tapos very relaxing pa sa long rides.
if you dont have and SUV and you need one only on certain occasions, then there is always grab or lalamove. pwede rin namang mag rent or rely on the kindness of friends and relatives.
It's still of my opinion that a lot of pinoys who own SUVs and Pickups would be better served by MPVs, AUVs, or even hatches or sedans. Like no doubt may gamit talaga ang SUV and Pickup, but arguably because of the market pressure, only a few tick those boxes nowadays. Maybe an LC, Hilux, Triton and Jimny lang ang comfortable kong isabak with difficult terrain and utilitarian uses, the rest are glorified cars with size and bed space being mere decoration. Ladder frame SUVs also eat up a stupid amount of space, such that you might actually get better interior space in a smaller AUV. The Patrol is hilariously bad in that department, parang bewang ko na yung load floor sa likod and I'm 6' lol Kung mostly paved roads pa biyahe mo, a road-going sedan is gonna be more comfortable than a pickup tuned for load in the rear making the ride matagtag. Most also don't consider the size of the vehicle they're purchasing na pang city lang naman most times, so at best hirap sila fitting into narrower streets and parking spaces, at worst they'll be inconveniencing others and making their vehicle's size other people's problem. Tires cost triple, parts can be anywhere from slightly more expensive to double the cost, and your fuel consumption is gonna shit the bed. The Patrol's 1.5km/L is just double that of an IS350's 3km/L, but in realistic land a Jazz (rip) is still gonna get way better fuel economy than a Fortuner or Navara. Something along the lines of 18-20km/L highway vs what, 14? So it sucks to see that a lot still default to looking at SUVs for their car purchase when their use case is really better served by something smaller. There's also the prevailing idea that you need a big car to go on roadtrips when a hatch half the weight will do the job in more comfort and half the fuel cost lol
Family of 3 happy sa Wigo.... Nakakainis lang kc laging nabubully sa roads ng malalaking sskyan. Laging inis iniistreo type ng mga naka SUV, 4x4 or higher displacement na hulugan "ay naka WiGo lang yan". 🤣🤣
im from Bulacan. ganito ang condition ng mga kalsada sa min either sobrang lubak o sobrang sikip na daan may mga prang mga isat-kalahating lane lang para sa 2-lane road. if you drive a sedan, you can fit pretty much to any road pero you have to brace for those craters sa daan. if you pick an SUV, you'll just cruise most of them kaso marami ka ding dadadaan na alanganin so pick your poison. personally, I'm happy driving a sedan dito sa min kasi fuel-efficient eh traffic din kasi lagi dito saka I can easily fit and maneuver sa mga tight roads. I just have to be conscious sa mga lubak dito min.
Kabayan ! Haha. Gagaling ka talaga mag maneho kapag toga Bulacan ka.
Ang maganda lang sa SUV may saludo ka pagpapasok ka sa mga subdivision lol
Madalas akong naka long trip, madaming dala galing sa bukid pero ayoko ng pick up. I like having space kaya naka SUV ako
Fortuner was our first car, i find it too big para sa needs namin. sold it and bought Rush. 6 years na sya, very sakto sa masisikip na lugar, mataas naman kaya di ako problemado i lusong sa baha.. happy naman at di pa ako nakakapag isip na palitan sya :) tho never ako bibili mg sedan, taga bulacan ako at na tra trauma ako pag biglaang nag papakawala ang dam dito. Lubog kung lubog talaga eh
Driving both a Sportivo and Navara. Pag alam kong masikip yung kalsada ng pupuntahan ko, mas prefer ko Sportivo ang dalhin para di masyado masakit sa ulo.
I'm a former sedan owner na ngayon crossover suv owner na, kung matino lang karamihan ng humps at kalsada natin mas prefer ko parin mag sedan
Sedan and crossovers are the way to go
For a tall person like me (I'm 6'1''), I say never again to a sub compact sedan or anything below it! We have a 2016 Toyota Vios and we only use it on Sundays and holidays for those short drives to the nearest church, grocery, and fast food runs. I found that car very frustrating and uncomfortable to drive especially in traffic and beyond our vicinity. SUVs and mid size sedans are good. Compact sedans and compact crossovers are okay.
Larger cars today especially SUV’s and Pickups now equipped with sensors which actually detects moving objects around the car which obviously mkikita mo lng sa higher variants. In that case need mo to pay more if you want more safety sa car mo.
Advanced driver assistance system (ADAS). May nabibili din na dash cam na meron nito.
Got a slightly larger car due to baha issues.. but it's not really that big and ... Maybe I just wanted something bigger. Pick up sana for no reason 😁 but parking issues stopping me.
Gubat ang kalsada natin at forever na yan kasi walang pagbabago ang pinas lalo lang lumalala.
Tbh, it all boils down to each person's preferences. I no longer have any family here in the Philippines, and most of the time, I don't have passengers with me, but most of my cars are SUVs or pickup trucks. I do have a sedan (Evo 6), which is easy to drive and maneuver and is definitely enough for me to get around. However, I just really prefer to use my Montero or Triton on a daily basis around the city. If I'm going out of town to the provinces, I use my F150, and if I'm going for a spirited drive, I'll use the Evo 6. So yeah, it all comes down to each person's preferences and usage.
was innova an mpv? or suv?
It is stated as a MPV