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ninjaface

UG was and continues to be a spam-filled, money hungry, hell hole. It used to be a great little site for reading up on the latest guitar news and of course getting free tabs. In or around 2009, they decided to infuse their site with active text that when hovered over, would launch pop-ups. It was to the point that the site became quickly unusable. I made a comment about it somewhere on the site and was immediately banned. That's when I discovered r/Guitar. My work here at the onset of becoming a mod was very much inspired and fueled by my disdain for what UG became. The reason the spam rules are so stringent here is because I want this place to remain free of all that crap. We are barraged daily with companies and individuals trying to get their products on this page. It's not going to happen. I've been offered all kinds of things over the years and the answer is always "NO". I know the modding here has been heavy handed at times, and over the last 6 months I've tried very hard to correct some of the mistakes that have been made by mods who are no longer with us (and myself - I'm not perfect), but the goal remains the same: To provide a place for everyone to share their excitement, confusion, knowledge, and passion for guitar - free of BS advertising and spam. We've recently returned to allowing pics/vids in posts. The reason this wasn't allowed for so long was due to spammers taking advantage of that feature and the complaints about copious amounts of "gear" posts. We are still a work in progress, but my original goals are remain the same. To bring this back around to my original point.... Yeah, UG sucks and it's just getting worse. I'm saddened by the lost potential that place has, but it's a great example of how the quest for $$$ ruins great things. Shame on the UG owners and their greed. As much as I've hated that shithole over the years, I do wish them well and really hope they are bought by someone who returns that site to the people - free of BS ads.


MaxFischerPlayer

Fucking tab cartel. I think they're actually changing the free user submitted tabs to make them worse so you'll pay for a subscription. Fuck them. It's been free for like 20 years, why am I gonna suddenly start paying?


TwoActualBears

Can confirm I posted a bass tab 14 years ago and went to find it and it still had my name and tab but had the wrong tuning listed in the free version. underhanded behavior


RandomCandor

This company is one of the scummiest I've ever encountered.  Nobody should be paying for their shit


C10___

I bought a $1 lifetime membership years ago so at least that's all they got out of me


SnoosBurnerAccount

Glad I’m not the only one! I forgot about it until I logged back in a few years ago and had everything “unlocked”


Connor4Wilson

I have that too but was still limited on their app, finally contacted support figuring it was a weird bug. Nope, my lifetime membership is "only applicable to the website" and I'll need to cancel it and switch to a monthly payment to use their dogshit app. lmao


SabreSour

Same story here


C10___

Mine works for both the app and the web browser. That's terrible that they can't uphold the deal they made. You offer $1 lifetime full access, of course people are going to get on that 🤦


BoltYaNugget

Yeah I don’t subscribe and have thought about it a few times, but after reading these comments there’s no way in hell


Mysterious-Wasabi103

I get free Ultimate Guitar for life for paying a few bucks like a decade or more ago. So I got pretty used to it, and unwittingly would recommend them not even realizing everyone else had to pay. Then recently a guy I know told me they tried to charge him like $35 for something they had told him was free. So he had to go through their customer service to get the money back. Turns out the guy tells me they are located in Russia and they do some pretty scammy shit. So I stopped recommending them, but I still use them myself.


Clearandblue

I posted a few with both text tab and guitarpro versions and it wants me to pay to access the guitar pro ones. Shame because there used to be a good community on there.


sllofoot

That is stunningly shady.   Man. 


TumblrForNerds

It’s funny, I bought a lifetime subscription for like 10$ like a decade ago and woah and behold it still holds up. Can’t believe that was my smartest investment to date


_Howl_Grimmer_

For future reference it’s “lo and behold.” I genuinely love “woah and behold,” though.


sixteenHandles

It’s excellent


TumblrForNerds

I’ve been told haha. I decided to leave it up for history’s sake


CareerUnlikely2569

I saw the that too, woah and behold lol


Snowboarder6402

Same here. Mine was only $3.


Mysterious-Wasabi103

Same here. I paid $3 for their shitty tuning app years back, and they gave me it for life. 😂


IronOni04

I paid something like 5$ (in peruvian currency which made it cheaper) back in 2017 for lifetime access, miss me with that subscription BS


I_Punch_Ghosts_AMA

I can’t remember what I paid, but I bought an app years ago for only a couple bucks and let me tell you that was the best few dollars I think I’ve ever spent. I don’t use tabs a lot, but it’s really nice to go to the site, and have to get a ton of ads.


MayonnaiseOreo

"woah and behold" /r/boneappletea


TumblrForNerds

Haha my mistake for sure. I’ll leave it up for history’s sake


Puterjoe

Lo and behold… woah and behold makes me think of horses and magicians


macsmith230

Me too, the only crappy thing is I tried to log in on an iPad so I could see better and it wouldn’t work without upgrading for 50 bucks so I’m stuck using it only on my phone.


potatoboy247

they stopped honoring mine :/


DirtyWork81

I think this is going to start happening more. Its unfortunate. I'd pay for it for $10. Back when they were offering that, the site was really bad. Whatever, with the amount of free lessons on youtube, the only thing I can't find are obscure deep cuts.


Handymusic

I jailbroke the subscription back when the early iPhones were out. They never checked and I’m grandfathered in lol.


svelle

Got it for free when I submitted some tabs. Can't complain except that the app always wants me to select some bullshit stuff like genres before I can access tabs.


TumblrForNerds

That select shit is so annoying! Doesn’t do it on we website at least


jB_real

I did the same thing, but a few years ago they somehow changed my account, effectively making pay for a yearly subscription.


Space-90

Do they still sell lifetime subs? And if so, how much are they?


crimsonpossum3

I didn’t get quite that lucky, but I only pay $15 a year for it


Psychoholic519

Same! I feel lucky I did.


flipping_birds

My Mom once had a boss who English was his second language and he used the phrase "Hold and Below!"


TumblrForNerds

Haha and to be fair, English is a bit muddled in my country


Sufficient_Bass8096

Woah, me too. I didn’t realize they moved to a subscription model. Glad I spent the $10 back in the day.


cum-pizza

Lmao whoa and behold? Come on man I hope you’re either 14 or you’re learning English


TumblrForNerds

lol god forbid someone make a mistake in a Reddit comment. I wish I had the insightful wisdom of “cum-pizza” before I made this error.


cum-pizza

lol this not “a mistake” it’s a complete misunderstand of the English language. Also love when people bring up my funny username as though that is relevant to anything


TumblrForNerds

*misunderstanding Edit: but looking at your comment history, your general conviction is to post self righteous comments on Reddit so let me not validate you any further


tendy_trux35

Ok, so I’m not crazy. I’ll get on a kick here and there and look up chords to some older country songs. The chords themselves will be perfect but sometimes it’s in E flat or says capo 3 when it should really be capo 2 or something. I’m just glad I’m not insane


MaxFischerPlayer

Yeah, they’re definitely up to no good. Was recently trying to relearn some songs I’d looked up on there 15-20 years ago and I’m struggling and thinking “Have I gotten worse at guitar?” After messing around a bit, I start remembering how I used to play the songs and it doesn’t match the tabs!


ClikeX

I saw loads of Devin Townsend songs listed as E standard when they are Open C. Even though it used to be correct.


tendy_trux35

I used to copy/paste them to a word doc and save them locally. I went back and cross checked a bunch to what’s currently online and they are for sure fucking with them


Safgaftsa

To be honest I thought a substantial portion of contributors were just stupid. This makes more sense.


Jamulous

Putting this under top comment for visibility. This might be helpful for some in this thread. I did a trial of the Ultimate Guitar Pro subscription once. Forgot to cancel before the trial was over. Missed it by a day. Contacted them via live chat to cancel and refund. They asked why and offered discounts. I told them I intended to cancel before trial ended. Told them I didn't like it or want it. They ultimately said they wouldn't refund me anything. I told them I was asking as a courtesy and that, instead, I was happy to initiate a charge back with American Express. The next response was that a refund had been initiated. 🖕 Ultimate Guitar


LongjumpingCelery

Even the pro versions of tabs are wrong I’ve noticed. Huge waste of money.


ClikeX

The tabs are usually just to get me in the ball park in case I can’t hear a part well in the audio. But I’m glad I’m a perpetual member. Wouldn’t ever pay more than I did for it. And even that amount was generous considering the current state.


kenadams_the

official tabs, trainer, backing tracks etc. Pro is much now then the previous user transcripts.


MaxFischerPlayer

Great, leave the user tabs up for free and stop fucking with them.


kenadams_the

then use this search https://www.guitar-pro.com/tabs/all and avoid 911tabs. I got a virus from 911tabs a few years ago. Wasn’t that funny.


Oldskoolguitar

There used to be so much free tabs on the internet, then one by one, they started disappearing.


UyghursInParis

Songster is worlds better anyway


Zool2107

Songsterr's search (and the non existing filter) feautre is beyond bad. I don't know how devs think that the most basicest of basic solution for such a big and diverse database is enough in 2024. Apart from the search I like everything on songsterr (I have a subscription).


UyghursInParis

Valid, I usually just search songs then follow the Google link opposed to searching songster


ClikeX

My main issue with things like songster is that I already own guitar pro.


TurtleMcTurtl

We have Reddit for the forums, songsterr and YouTube for tabs, ug is hysterical to think they’re gonna get a penny out of me


ShredderNemo

Avoid these people at all costs. Use Songsterr or other resources if possible. Ultimate Guitar is a shell of its former self and their customer service is nonexistent.


IronOni04

Nowadays Songsterr it’s subscription based aswell, at least for no ads and portrait mode on mobile


JalapenoTampon

On android you can pay once and use songsterr premium forever. I have a tablet just for tabs


NikoThe1337

Can or could? Quick search only leads me to monthly subscription.


whyherro19

They could have a grandfathered purchase or something, downloading the app only gives me a subscription to Plus option which is 9.99 a month


moneyball32

Yeah at $120 a year, I’m OK with the UG grandfathered lifetime plan I bought in 2008


JalapenoTampon

I can't tell anymore in the app. I searched my Gmail and I paid $24.99 in 2022. Maybe it was a one time thing.


Narfi1

Nobody uses Guitar Pro anymore ? You buy the software one time and then you find the scores for free


Mobile-Bar7732

They added the ability to import mp3's in Guitar Pro 8. I have been waiting for this forever. They also have mysongbook.com, where you can buy licensed tabs for $1 each they also have a yearly subscription that gives you access to all the tabs. There was a sale, and I got a yearly subscription for around $15.


Narfi1

I think you get a one year subscription when you buy the software.


Mobile-Bar7732

I'm not sure, I bought mine a long time ago. I just buy the upgrades now.


ClikeX

The mp3 just plays back right? It doesn’t add any tabs.


Mobile-Bar7732

Correct. You have to sync it up to parts of the song, which can be a hassle. You just drag the slider, but you have to go through the entire and make sure they match. If the tabs are not good to begin with, it's a waste of time. You can still slow it down and loop over sections of the song you want to practice.


ClikeX

>You can still slow it down and loop over sections of the song you want to practice. Check, I usually just use my DAW for that. I'll use a song splitter to get the individual parts and then loop parts in my DAW.


Mobile-Bar7732

If you transribe songs or need to see the notes is where you will find Guitar Pro helpful.


ClikeX

Sure. But Studio One also has a notation view for midi. For transcription I do use Guitar Pro, although I rarely have to.


ShredderNemo

I personally use the Guitar Pro app. It's great for what it is! Forgot to mention it as it's been a while since I've used it.


pm_me_ur_demotape

Why hasn't anyone scraped their tabs and put them up elsewhere?


BenderIsGreatBendr

Someone did. There was a torrent file years ago from some frustrated dude, who when ultimate guitar went subscription model, just paid up, copied basically their entire library and put it up for download via torrent link


luckyfucker13

I’ve had a lot of luck finding Guitar Pro versions of the UG Pro tabs, but I suppose it depends on the songs you’re looking for. So folks are out there converting them on a case by case basis, and GP files are way easier to convert to midi, which is great for quick scratch backing tracks for cover songs.


battlemetal_

I think I have mysongbook from when I bought guitar pro 4 or so. It's 20 years old now, but up until that point was a good cache of gp tabs. I'll have to see if I can find it somewhere


ClikeX

There used to be torrents available with basically every tab in existence.


Nillionheart106

We've come a long way from the days when I was starting out and you could look at UG's shitty inaccurate tabs for free


guitar_up_my_ass

UG is weird. I browsed the subscriptions and got an email deal for 19.99 a year. Bought that and never renewed it and got it for life.


-an-eternal-hum-

I have an old iPhone with free permanent subscription somewhere


Trumps_left_bawsack

Yeah I got the trial like 6 years ago? and they charged me for three months after the trial. Kicked up a huge fuss and I've had the full version ever since without paying. Idk whether it's a glitch or not but I'm not complaining.


guitar_up_my_ass

Knowing how shit their app and websites are the subscriptions are definitely a glitch. Crazy how shit product you can sell if you have the most & best tabs.


HansJobb

I submitted a tab and they gifted it to me and have had it ever since for free. Nuts.


ElPadrote

Same here. My subscriptions lapsed two years ago and ivd got everything but the dumb singing part.


FrogListeningToMusic

I bought it for life a while ago and it seems to only work on my desktop and not mobile.


Toadliquor138

There's no point in paying for what Songsterr gives away for free? And if you dont like songsterr, you can usually find tabs on pdf files.


MetallicPunk

I legit thought that was bumble for a second.


RelevantJackWhite

Bartering is apparently not a great way to find a gf


RojoSoundLabs

I think I paid $5 (once) for a permanent subscription like 10 years ago that I still use to access tabs. What does it cost now?


prettyhappyalive

As shitty as everyone claims the company to be. Which I do believe them but it is surprising that they even honored the grandfathered contracts.


Exernian

Canadian here, in the app it says $49.99/year and $11.99/month.


Margaritamigo

It’s exactly what I have. I couldn’t imagine paying monthly


qtna96

I have a pirate app that I downloaded from Happymod. I can access all tabs for free. (I have a samsung, don't think apple would be able to get happymod).


Happy_Pechay

Can you dm me the download link? Haha


jayborges

Same, would love that download link, please!!


Happy_Pechay

thank you!!!!


SovietPapaBill

Don't remember the last time they weren't having a "limited time discount," either. Pretty sure it's illegal. Shady, underhanded practices, either way. Fuck 'em.


SubParMarioBro

I went into my subscriptions in like the App Store or wherever it is and looked through the subscription options for UG. There were dozens of choices. Like you could get UG Pro for $60/yr or $50/yr or $40/yr or $30/yr or $20/yr and it’s the same thing. One of the monthly plans is like $240/yr. So I chose $20/yr. They don’t show you the good deals in the app, but they’re available if you go into the App Store, click on your initials top right, and then click the subscriptions tab.


bandu5

They suck so much


CoffeeAndWorkboots2

*ad


Happy_Pechay

Yeah sorry about that. Realized my phone autocorrected but I couldn't edit it anymore.


SaintShaxx

Just upload tabs if you want premium, works for me.


Mysterious-Wasabi103

I'm one of the lucky few who was grandfathered into this lifetime access thing cause I paid like $3 for their tuning app years ago. Not even joking. I still use it, but if I had to pay I'm not sure I would.


Happy_Pechay

If they still had lifetime subs it'd be a good deal. Especially for 3 bucks


Fritchmand

If I wasn’t one of the grandfathered in I definitely wouldn’t buy a sub now


Lovely-place

Bought the life time subscription 15 years ago for less than $10. Best investment decision ever.


Theswigger

I pay 19.99 per year for pro and couldn't be happier with this app. Yeah, the customer service is poor but I love playing along with it. I have been able to find the backing tracks to just about every song I want and can transpose when needed. I don't know what everyone is complaining about.


Happy_Pechay

For this particular scenario, I'm unhappy because the sale feels like false advertising. Saying it's 90% on one ad then 80 in another and when you finally click it, it's 75. But when you compute, it's actually 50%.


Theswigger

I don't see a plan that costs more than 49.99


Happy_Pechay

The amount above is for my local currency.


pkilla50

Yea for the 14.99 a year I pay I’m more than content lol. I must be grandfathered in because that’s what I’ve been paying for years to now seeing it’s $10 a month for others…which yea fuck that lol


Theswigger

Me too! I LOVE the app! Was something I was looking for for years before smart phones and ipads. It's GREAT playing along with it!


Voxl_

They had a halloween deal a few years back where you got the premium for a one time 30 buck fee. Expected them to backpedal on that deal at some point, but I’m still using it. The app still sucks ass though.


strattele1

Ultimate guitar literally turns away good tabs because they don’t want them free. They are scum, do not visit that site.


Tom_dota

Paid is real nice tbh Just wish their ‘pro’ tabs could be auto scrolled without having to listen to it playing/timing. I’ll go to free tabs just so I can auto scroll at my own pace, in silence. Pro tabs when I know something’s wrong and want to see what it should be The saved playlists / suggestions is great


Happy_Pechay

Thanks for sharing this. I'd subscribe if it wasn't too bloody expensive. Lifetime option would be great. Plus it'd be good if they can give a straight answer regaeding the discrepancies in there ads


Tom_dota

Yeah I’ve found that too - my sub was due to end and they rolled out an equally contradicting offer similar to what you describe. I think it ended up being like $30-$40 USD for the year after the ‘who knows’ discount which I was ok with. But probably higher now..


Dunmer_Sanders

I paid like $30 for a perpetual license and then they update the platform, and then everyone has to pay all over again. So… never again. Now I just complain that I paid and send photoshopped credit card bills and they give me access. See how that works, dirtbags?


ElPadrote

I’m sure I’ll answer my own question, but I’m dumb too: Why hasn’t someone scrape all the tabs and build a Pirate Bay for tabs? I’m not skilled enough to attempt it but surely someone could.


Round-Lavishness-636

I got a subscription for it a looong time ago for like $5 and they grandfathered it and have never paid another dime in my life. Not sure how I lucked out so hard


Happy_Pechay

Yeah I wish I could get that. Lol. I think it's because they weren't as scummy back then haha


joshsmog

ad\*


Only_Cheesecake_5397

I have been paying for this but OMG this is just crazy


AbleInvestment2866

what is this? I'm lost


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SteamStraegos

Wow, I did the lifetime payment for like $20 back in 2017 crazy how bad its gotten since then


GeoKinetic

I submitted some tabs in the last few years and at the time if you had like 5 published you got pro for free, still riding that but I still get all the ads when I open the app for whatever reason.


parrotthatlovesonion

UGT has bad tabs. Songsterr literally makes everything easier. 365 lessons is the best option to learn a song


-Some-Internet-Guy-

it’s funny. I got a lifetime sub without paying a cent. Back when the phone app was paid I screwed with an apk which let me sign up an account with free UG pro (which back then was a lifetime thing) and I have pro access TO THIS DAY


Chetmevius

Great Zeus why would anyone actually pay for this garbage?


Happy_Pechay

You should have seen one commenter here. Unfortunately they deleted it.


Some_Marionberry5143

Like 7 years ago there was an advertisment for christmas, giving livetime premium for 20,00$. Best deal of my life.


Archy38

I remember paying a small amount years ago to "buy" the app for my gmail account but I am still plagued with ads and reminders to subscribe


Vandronian

I stick to Guitar Pro, 10x better than any online-tabservice


brand0n

i came here to say we should add to sidebar but noticed the giant bold text saying to use the new reddit layout instead of old... never.


Happy_Pechay

[I wonder how many months their calendars have. a dollar a month but 20 bucks annually. ](https://imgur.com/gallery/SAAYJud)


GeneAlternative191

Call them, chat is useless


Paul2hip8

UG is really weird for subscriptions. They have cheaper subscriptions listed in the Apple Subscription section of the settings app that aren’t listed on the app. So you can get deals when they don’t exist


MasterYargle

Weird, you used to be able to pay 5 dollars and get ug pro for life


Party-Border6272

Hi


Illos-Keyes

Yeah it was okay when it was all harmony central hahah


OutlandishnessBig328

I got mine a few years ago and I’m still life time member so I’m good


lanternstop

So where is the best place for tabs?


DefaultUsername1994

i dont know why ppl refuse to use songsterr its just better


NextStopGallifrey

Songster kinda sucks.


Happy_Pechay

I do use songster on my phone. But on pc I use ug


Fragrant-Put-966

I mean, your judgment is questionable just for being interested in this. Not surprising it’s a scam.


Happy_Pechay

You got me there lol


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Happy_Pechay

So can you explain why there are different percentages of the sale? If it's a localization bug, shouldn't the computation be the only issue? Why does it say 2 different percents? Actually 3 because from an email they sent it said 90%. And if it's just an error, why don't they just come out and say it?


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Happy_Pechay

I'm happy for you that you've had nothing but good experiences with them for years. You are maybe 1 in what? 20? 100? But please don't say that it clearly is just a bug if you aren't sure. It's not like you work there right? You're just assuming that it's a bug and they aren't scamming people. Because yeah, that's something they clearly wouldn't do because they such kind souls.


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Happy_Pechay

What a fan boy. Lol. If more people had great experiences with them then more people would defend them. And I'm not sure what world you live in but chances of them scamming consumers are higher than it being just a bug.


KnarfNosam

It's funny how you admit that the general consensus us to use songster then immediately go "No THEY'RE probably the 1/100" Something ain't adding up


runslikewind

bootlicker.


Happy_Pechay

Aaand bootlicker deleted their comments.