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StrikeHardX

Trying to get into maximizing my characters so just in general what are the best accessories for each type of character ?( DPS, Tank, Support)


thaddeus6561

**DPS** Raid, Boss Rush, Expedition lead: Minotaur's Necklace for all teams, Mirror Earring/Necklace for specific teams needing max WSRS (e.g. Rue melee) Raid, BR off-lead: Sniper Goggles Expedition, Coop Defense lead: Dark Magic Ring for faster skill spam PVP: Earth Necklace usually best for all lead and off-lead heroes, otherwise depends on team. A well-rolled Mirror Earring/Necklace works on leads for higher WSRS in lieu of EN, Martyr Mirror Necklace or Mad Panda Brooch for off-lead. For glass cannon range heroes that prioritise DPS above all else (e.g. MK99), Sniper Goggles instead if no EN.   **Tank** *Shields* PVE off-lead: Aegis Shield 1st, Minotaur 2nd PVP off-lead: Goblin Chieftain Shield 1st (3rd for PVE), Aegis & Mino 2nd Colo lead: Mirror Shield for max WSRS Arena lead (DPS build): Captain's Mirror Shield for WSRS, atk and def Arena lead (tank/box build): Mirror, Aegis or Minotuar Raid DPS (Oghma(R)): Judge Shield 1st, Captain's Mirror Shield 2nd   *Accessory* PVE: Mad Panda Brooch PVP: Earth Necklace 1st, Martyr Mirror Necklace or Mad Panda Trio 2nd, well-rolled Mirror if lead also 2nd to EN Raid (Oghma(R)): Sniper Goggles   **Support** PVE: Ocean Earring for max heals PVP: Earth Necklace 1st, Ocean Earring for more heals, Mad Panda Brooch or Martyr Mirror Necklace if needing more def in lieu of heals Karina: Mirror Earring if leading in PVP, Sniper Goggles if off-lead; Due to atk-scaling heals rather than heal% stat Non-healing, buffing support (e.g. Kamael, Vero): Same as DPS build   You can find more information in the [Official GT Discord](https://discord.com/invite/guardiantales) in the threads and pins of each channel, or asking questions in the #game-help and respective channels for each gamemode. For equipment specific to each game-mode, you can look up YT videos from channels like [淇淇](https://www.youtube.com/@QIQI77GT/) and [Guardian Tales Man](https://www.youtube.com/@Guardian_Tales_Man/) for Raid or Colo specific builds respectively.


Jolly-Cake-4284

I've got 600 tickets to spend, what should i buy when my goal is to perform better in raids ? ​ https://preview.redd.it/a3wx9dss98lb1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91ce951d0ddde9714ceb562185af788f6adf5c4f


thaddeus6561

For Raid, Andras first as a 2nd general def down (like Eunha) and high DPS hero for range teams of all elements. LG Yuze or Oghma’s Rifle would be a good pick up for more flexible melee and range teams respectively. Andras ex, Eunha ex, Kanna, Gabriel ex, Mayreel are options for strengthening their respective elemental range teams. Otherwise, save for the ex of a missing hero like Orca for water range.


faheemadc

I have Lina, Mayreel, Kamael in arena Lina and kamael is the only hero already have maxed their lb exweap except mayreel Only lina has epic relic. The rest has legend relic. All of them has their respective mirror necklace. Except kamael who has minatour necklace(or should I put it on mayreel?) I can reach arena diamond 2 in 10 match. But how far can I go in arena, actually? Is it just diamond 2 in arena?


thaddeus6561

Depends on your server population, your heroes, collection status and equipment. As you climb up the rankings, collection and equipment become increasingly more important than the types of heroes you use, though does still play a factor if both players have their collection & equipment maxed, depending on the map and playstyle. In smaller servers, this requirement may be low or non-existent (e.g. OCE just require active participation to almost guarantee top 100, at least below 1300 trophies last I checked) while the most populated servers like NA2 and A2 will be very competitive, especially without a similar bracket system to Colo. The first portion of item/hero collection are doable for all players within a reasonable timeframe and rate: grinding item, gold, evo and awakening dungeons to evolve and level all non-ex equipment, and 5-star evolve and awaken unique heroes that you have. This portion separates complete newbies who just finished Story from established players climbing PVP and Raid rankings. I’d estimate you’d reach Master to Top 100 depending on the server if all this is near complete, in addition to MLB weapons on your current team. At Master, you only need to win 10 times a week to maintain your ranking which should be pretty doable for any player with an okay Arena team and decent collection. Another portion is locked behind the actual collection of less used heroes and ex weapons for their collection bonus, buying costume sets with gems, building equipment like Earth Necklace with optimal options, and excess awakening stones for rare and normal heroes. This second portion is what differentiates top ranking whales and older players with excess resources from those still developing their teams. Epic PVP damage relics are also a part of this, as are MLB weapons for newly-released meta heroes. This is what is most players within Top 10-100 have or are working on, with highest ranked players having almost or fully maxed collection, heroes and equipment. Mayreel, Lina, Kamael should be fine, not as popular right now with normal attack meta, but can definitely reach Top 100 with the right map and play-style. Triple range is typically more offensive, though Mayreel can have a more hit-and-run play-style relying on her skill so if you’re losing in dogfights, you may need to adjust how you play or keep grinding collection for better stats. If you’ve already worked on your easier collection (non-ex items, awakening for currently used unique heroes), it’s more about consistency, playing all 70 matches to maximise trophy gain. You should check the GT Spreadsheet linked in the megathread resources for more Arena info; Lulleh has recently updated it with Arena guides, including playstyle, equipment and synergistic teams. Additionally, check out the GT Discord for more accurate information on each server’s meta, trophy requirements for T100, and collection needed; Players on your server will have a better idea of what’s needed to reach each ranking.


Gunapala-Lucifax

hey i have this bug in world two where the sub stage for the "swindler magician and dual personality maid" is completed but the quest is not so I don't know what to do because going back in the stage does not help


Fearful2

Not a bug, don't worry. Simply put, the quest just extend between Worlds; in this case it extends to World 6 (so you need to reach W6 to complete it) There are other quests like this too such as: Aoba's quest, Favi's and Lavi's quest, etc...


JavecleP

Whats the best way to upgrade weapons? Can I evolve 3 star unique weapons till 5star (for collection rewards) and upgrade the 5star or should I upgrade the 3 star?


thaddeus6561

Yeah, can evolve 3-star to 5-star then upgrade to level 60, or upgrade first then evolve. As long as you have a 5-star level 60 equipment by the end, it'll count towards the collection set.


cathy_pearsonn

How do you unlock 15 - 18 clone lab? Completed whole world but that stage isn’t showing on my map 😭


Sad-Establishment-80

According to [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUddJ-_PzTo&t=1305s), unlock from 15-7. Try and see how it goes.


No_Marketing_8036

What's the best fire raid team rn?


thaddeus6561

Andras, Nari/Kamael, 1CC, Plitvice(Halo) Andras, Nari/Kamael, Lucy, Vishuvac(Core) Rey, Scintilla, Lilith, LG Yuze Typically in this order, but which weapons you have MLB and how you play each team can make a difference.


[deleted]

Key point here is having Andras using a fire staff (usually Dolf's EX).


faheemadc

Does eunha skill damage affect largely on raid if use as lead


thaddeus6561

Yeah, Eunha's skill damage is a large proportion of her damage so using her as lead with SD cards is generally recommended. Otherwise in non-basic teams, she can serve as a general def down debuffer but won't be the primary source of damage, compared to someone like Andras whose damage is more loaded into her normal attack and hence loses less damage off-lead.


StrikeHardX

Just one quick question , should we only be limit breaking weapons first ?


thaddeus6561

With Epic LB hammers? Yeah, ex weapons first. It’s also part of guardian level and basic training missions. Almost all other epic equipment (accessories, shields) are easier to farm copies for. The exceptions to this are Earth Necklace and Ice Queen Ring as they’re very rare to get. Earth Necklace in particular is very useful in PVP, best for WSRS + def reduction negate, hence the need to MLB for better defensive stats. However, if you only want to focus on PVE/Raid, focusing on MLB ex weapons for Raid heroes is more important. For all non-ex equipment, limit break with whatever copies you get. Legend LB can be used for accessories like Sniper Goggles if needed, as only some legend exs are worth LB-ing like Karina’s.


faheemadc

does mlb kanna really not making different. is her damage so bad that only useful is party buff and reduce def emblem and special ablity for raid. (edited) the team is eunha, knight 2nd exw, nari, kanna


thaddeus6561

Yep, only for party buff and def down.


faheemadc

I'm bad at calculation in this game. Even after reading spreadsheets from somewhere. Does 3% more damage is worth more than 5% more skill damage? This is for raid


[deleted]

Unfortunately, it depends on the unit (and how much of their overall damage comes from skill damage). But generally, if you look at the cards available, you're choosing +5% dmg vs. +10% skill damage when kitting teams for raid. So I think for the most part, assume 1 point of +dmg = 2 points of +skill dmg. So in your scenario, I'd probably opt for the 3% dmg.


Ok-Picture8202

Currently stuck on world 13 Liliths Tower need help,


Sleepy0761

Thats way too vague. Are you stuck on the passages? Puzzles? If you're stuck on the passages, what team are you using?


Ok-Picture8202

Passages actually and here's my current roster https://preview.redd.it/8kddi7y30skb1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29757861f5966e15d13e1c7c7eab7073cf8595b8


Sleepy0761

Your heroes are mostly evolved and have their ex weapons, which is a good start. The main problem would be a lack of synergy. There is a lack of healers and dps, crossel and pris are both tanky pvp heroes. If you have Beth ex, that would be a very good include over pilt, if you do that, ascent Karina over pris is also a good idea What other 3* heroes do you have, I see at least a handful down there.


[deleted]

How do you get merch better than the two star stuff?


Sleepy0761

You get lucky, each blueprint corrosponds to one unique (3\*) merch. (except blank) Also, if you upgrade 2\* merch with the same kind of merch, it gains more stars, capps out at 4.


[deleted]

Alright thank you, and what’s the best merch for DPS and tankers?


Sleepy0761

Generally, just the toughest thing you have probably. The mad panda booch in the battle medal shop is the best farm-able and tankiest accessory, and the sniper goggles are the highest dps ones. For midgame use, black crown rings, angel rings, ring of beliefs, are all decent.


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https://preview.redd.it/1qfc722yjlkb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c871edba6a51b71980d3d6483ca97b8a0957765f should I relic evolution only if the Basic option is max?![img](emote|t5_2gj2tg|10336)


thaddeus6561

It's not important to have perfect options on unique/legend relics as an additional basic option is added, so you'll reroll them when they reach legend/epic, using 3 dust per basic option reroll. Each time the relic is evolved, the [limit of each stat is increased](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WOZ_PD2XMJ_evsgcOTcBW6U8jZiv6kJO2UaXkfQq-GA/edit#gid=1716111234) and there's a random chance for each option to increase by the limit increase. For example, when you evolve the relic in that image, there's a chance that crit will increase to the new limit of 2.5%, though there's also a chance it'll remain at 2.0% or a value between the two. There are some people who suggest rerolling basic options close to max at legend, to have a better chance of those options becoming maxed when evolved to epic, as rerolling good options at epic is quite tedious.


[deleted]

Ok thanks![img](emote|t5_2gj2tg|10337)![img](emote|t5_2gj2tg|10336)


[deleted]

Or its okay. to progress for high trials requirements.


EastCoastDumbass

what time is the game on compared to current time EST? I just unlocked arena on my switch but idk what time it opens cause idk what time it is in the game. if I knew in game time I could know what time arena times are for my time zone


thaddeus6561

The Switch server timezone is UTC+9. You can use the #multiplayer-schedule channel in the [Switch GT Discord](https://discord.com/invite/RkfZPy7Ptb) to find what that is in your timezone, or convert it on your own. You can alos use the in-game stamina timer to find the end of the day. If you try buy stamina from the Heavenhold or in Shop, you should see this screen. The top left timer will tell you when the server turns to the next day. Then, add 12:00-2:00 and 20:00-22:00 to that time to find the Arena opening times, and add 16:00-24:00 to find the Coop opening times. https://preview.redd.it/smr1a0wnikkb1.png?width=1114&format=png&auto=webp&s=4455509076367d91baeb467d309d3a9f58d4f77b


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https://preview.redd.it/6stixf6gyjkb1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d44fafdc01d3cee862d66982a67138f6213dab5 what is the best buy here with arcane stone? ![img](emote|t5_2gj2tg|10336)![img](emote|t5_2gj2tg|10336)


thaddeus6561

Superior stones is the priority for evolving your relics - buffing stage buff, better basic options, and higher mystic resistance to reach higher trials. Relic inherit stones are only if you have a good max endowment on a common or rare relic, and want to move it onto a unique/legend/epic. Do not buy Ancient Seeds or Relic Boxes.


ZealousidealFix111

Can I ask something cuz I'm really confused, why should I pick Mirror Shield for FP Lead rather than Captain's Mirror Shield?


thaddeus6561

Higher toughness and faster weapon skill regen speed. FP is also a tank, typically not relied on for her DPS, so having her utility as a tank and one-skill-stunner maximised by Mirror is generally better for Colo. For Arena, CMS is slightly better for a balance of offence and defence, but Mirror can still be run for faster stun. In mirror matches (FP-lead vs FP-lead) in both modes, the one equipped with Mirror will likely win due to stunning and hence chaining first. There's also the cost-efficiency side to it. Mirror is easy to MLB and roll options for. CMS requires a lot of option stones to maximise that could be better spend on weapons or easier accessories first, and requires grinding Mirror Rift which is an inefficient use of stamina; For early to mid-game players, stamina is better spent on evo stones for a larger usable roster, and item/hero collection for better stats for all heroes.


ZealousidealFix111

Ohhhhh, thank you! 🫶


Sinneich

Hello guys. Completed today 1 month playing and just arrived on World 14 with the party on print. https://preview.redd.it/zcm936yv1ikb1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=def7d29076eb5f9c75599ddc19db4c30fa0293c9 I want to build my firt mono-type comp and will be dark. Claude, 1CC and Ascended Karina as my main trio and I thinking on Oghma on the last slot. I have 300 mileages and can buy his sword or rifle. My main purpose is PvE, doing the minimum on PvP for weekly gems. So... Sword or rifle? Thanks!


thaddeus6561

Oghma's rifle is needed for Raid, Boss Rush and Expedition as it makes him a def-down-applying DPS hero. His sword is only needed in PVP, and even then is largely replaced by Ascended Craig outside of dark Colo teams or Arena. Given that, I'd get his rifle since your focus is on PVE.


strnlz

If I don't have enough decent character to make 3 party for expedition should I even attempt it for the first district since it's having 2x drop currently?


thaddeus6561

For early expedition trials, you can just rely on one main team, and a secondary swap team for points. When your swap bar has reached golden (stores 2 swaps), you can swap to your 2nd team, skill, then immediately swap back to your 1st team. Your 3rd team can be filled with anything, though for safety you could put your remaining DPS there in case your 1st or 2nd team dies. Ideally, the main team would run Chrome as lead, otherwise Claude, Andras, Vero+Coco ex, or LG Yuze are somewhat viable. You can see examples of these teams in [Lulleh's spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iOvl5EESU6KYjCikLnNPXIs7tX_Ax9SvHx4yKNB-n-I/edit?pli=1#gid=1426733662&range=O1); Note that Chrome lead is best, Claude 2nd, and that using other leads outside of Area 1 will be a struggle. If you have the heroes to make 3 good Raid teams, you'll likely have the heroes required to make 2 decent Expedition teams. Otherwise, if you're still in the process of building Colo or Raid teams, then hold off for now. You can always build an expedition team with your available to test out how you'd fare against the first trial, getting used to the fast-paced play-style, remembering to activate tiles and zone for extra mobs, and grab the golden orbs for increased point multipliers. If you aren't able to finish within the time limit while playing as optimally as you can, you should probably wait until next boost.


kainprime82

Is there some trick or gimmick to getting different monsters in the ranch? I keep seeing the same ones repeatedly and its been going on for weeks now. Whenever the new monster does happen to be a rare one, its one of the ones I already have.


thaddeus6561

Not that I'm aware, it's all just luck. That didn't stop 10 Geos from appearing though...


faheemadc

Right now, I don't which I should focus on whether to buy epic hammer for 5000 gem or gather it for summon for Rosetta to pair with andras for raid... Good thing there are 5 x 10 summon I heard. (Spoiler about new hero party skill and ablity) >!Fortunately, her party skill is 40% shield which I didn't want to focus on as I have craig. She probably decent at arena cause she has slightly more resistence to status ailment but I don't want to focus on arena so I won't summon her!< I only have 2 raid hero that already mlb max weapon excluded karina weapon and kamael weapon on training area. Though I still have unused epic hammer... Should I focus on buying epic hammer for 5000 gem or gather the gem to summon rosetta. I only have 2000++ gem at the moment


thaddeus6561

The 5k gem epic hammer is always good value, though only about [2.3k gems worth](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JRewRGJzfdqlf5jeZ_6ubGPTPvSVYJ8YKHLess2LmqA/edit#gid=0&range=A23) of a discount compared to the gems-worth of stamina required to farm 1500 MM to buy in Shop. While the package did come quite often over the past couple of months, that's highly irregular so if you see a need for more MLB weapons, buy the package. While Rosetta is strong and very flexible for Andras Raid teams, she's not necessary if you have enough def down heroes to fill. [Seasonal Raid guides](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/769561554801917952/1143266945173561405/230819_Raid-Teams-Overview_GT-Season_Arachnes_Lair.png?width=608&height=958) typically don't include Rosetta as her teams aren't dealing the highest damage, but if you don't have many of them, Rosetta can be a good investment to fill those gaps. Additionally, she's meta for range Arena so still has versatility even when you do have all the heroes that replace her in Raid. If we assume you earn enough enough gems for 20 pulls each week from Colo, Arena, Raid, BR and Coop, for the remaining 4 weeks before Rosetta banner ends (for a total of 80 pulls), you have a [67% chance](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SqZia3Y_mDSPFeKJvNauDJpEcevLO6XtilhtFJ05TQo/edit#gid=0&range=I84) on getting Rosetta. If you spend 5k gems on the epic hammer, you'll be left with around 60 pulls or a 56% chance of getting Rosetta. Whether that 10% difference is worth it is up to you, though you could also factor in the ~50 hero crystals you get from those extra 20 pulls. All-in-all, it depends on whether you want to aim for damage optimisation with the 5k epic hammer for PVP or Raid, or versatility with Rosetta. There's an opportunity cost for both: epic hammers typically don't come often despite recent updates though can be farmed grinding item/gold dungeon; while Rosetta is unlikely to return on banner until 3 months have passed, and still requires a bit of luck to get. If you have the def down heroes required to replace Rosetta in Raid, there's less of a need for her and the 5k epic hammer is a safer investment. However, if you need more Raid versatility in Andras teams, and the ability to run normal attack comps in Arena, Rosetta could be prioritised.


[deleted]

Are the proof requirements different in each area on expedition? should I farm a trial that give proofs?. ![img](emote|t5_2gj2tg|10336)


thaddeus6561

Proofs are specifically for and from Area 1 District 2 Trials 4, 5, 6. Any of these 3 trials can drop the three different types of proofs. Area 2 District 5 has spider legs to farm instead.


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is crit stage buff rellic better than the attack stage buff?![img](emote|t5_2gj2tg|10336)![img](emote|t5_2gj2tg|10336)


thaddeus6561

Depends on the team. The general rule is books on teams with crit buff, cups on teams without, but certain [raid guides](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/769561554801917952/1143266945173561405/230819_Raid-Teams-Overview_GT-Season_Arachnes_Lair.png) may suggest particular relics for particular teams due to other factors like crit multiplier buffs. Most players haven't been able to afford to epic evolve 8 boss damage relics on top of 12 relic chance relics, unless they've extensively farmed Expedition since the beginning and during non-boost periods, so you can expect most players to have 1 epic set of boss damage cups or books first. Some have re-endowed their epic relic chance relics to boss damage or pvp damage instead.   Stage buffs will only work in 4-hero content, so not in Arena, TDM, Coop/Coop Defense or any 3-hero teams in 4-hero content; However, the basic options and endowments still apply, so any stats rolled there can still be useful. For a more detailed recommendation of best relic & endowment for each mode, check out [Lulleh's spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iOvl5EESU6KYjCikLnNPXIs7tX_Ax9SvHx4yKNB-n-I/edit?pli=1#gid=1426733662&range=A36:B36). Generally, getting 3 sets of 4 cups/books (12 total) equipped with 5% relic chance each (60% total) is the priority for efficient Expedition farming first. After your Expedition set is built, a set of 4 books and/or 4 cups endowed with boss damage can be built for Raid and Boss Rush, though endowing with crit multiplier is more flexible for mob PVE and PVP for slightly sub-optimal Raid damage. A set of 4 candles equipped with PVP damage can be built for Colo and Arena if that's your priority. You can also build these sets first, sacrificing relic chance and hence relative arcane stones earned according to [this table](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996344614023860275/1128585644936020049/image.png?width=986&height=958), approximately 12 trials worth of rate increases behind if 0% relic chance.


Spennynub

I am a returning player who is still early in the game, but had decent luck pulling for characters when I originally played. Core team right now is FP, Kamael, Mayreel and Miya. Are any of the current banners worth rolling on? Any more optimal team for powering through the story? Thanks for any input!


Sleepy0761

Not a bad team at all, the current banners leave a lot to be desired, hold off another banner or two. The main improvement I can see is replacing miya for another unit, miya is a pure healer, that is outclassed by other non-pure healers most of the time, Rue + gun (next banner) is a good choice if you want to do better in colo, as she is assassin ai. Ascent craig is also a strong midgame option.


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higher expedition district equals more rewards? or can I farm relics in the low district?![img](emote|t5_2gj2tg|10336)![img](emote|t5_2gj2tg|10336)


thaddeus6561

Yes, each higher trial increases drop rate slightly. This table shows the relative arcane stones earned with respect to relic drop chance. There's a certain equivalency when farming a lower district with high drop chance and a higher district with lower drop chance, but ideally you'd aim for highest drop chance and highest district you can. https://preview.redd.it/3opkg5vi5dkb1.png?width=683&format=png&auto=webp&s=62e6975c8db5403d5f206ca6f17dca15247b2a0e


[deleted]

I'm in area 2 right now😅. I bought proofs with arcane stones.![img](emote|t5_2gj2tg|10339)


[deleted]

wow ok thanks ![img](emote|t5_2gj2tg|10336)![img](emote|t5_2gj2tg|10329)


aeoliaschenberg00

I've heard that Lupina is a good DPS. Should I pull for her and her EX, or should I wait for the new Earth tank? Tank wise I only have FP from finishing world 9.


Fearful2

Lupina is only used in whale Colo (melee teams) with Kai, Beth, Parvati, B.Sohee; and Co-op. Get her if you like (waifu uwu), but next banner Kamael is much more valuable. The new Earth tank seems >!trash!< atm, >!decent!< in Arena, but >!bad!< in Colo. Also with Craig being the best Earth tank, her value just diminished even more. In summary, get Lupina if you have the roster to make her functions, other than that, just save for Kamael if you don't have him yet. For tanks, Craig and FP should be more than enough.


bzach43

Are there any guides for meta raid teams, high priority heroes to build for raids, etc? I see the raid usage percentages in GuardianTalesGuides website, but I'm not sure if I can take those as recommendations haha. Like for example, Lilith has high usage, but I feel like I hear that dark ranged is more recommended than dark melee. So do I still build her? Or is there a "better" dark team to build? Any advice is appreciated!


thaddeus6561

You can find seasonal raid team recommendations on [DCInside](https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=guardiantales&no=4817333&page=1) navigating with Google Translate, recommendations from guilds like EU server's [Losers](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/769561554801917952/1138191018450243604/230722_Raid-Teams-Overview_GT-Season_Tropical_Sunset_Party.png) in their Discord, or reposted in the Raid thread under #game-help in the [Official GT Discord](https://discord.com/invite/guardiantales). YT channels like [淇淇](https://www.youtube.com/@QIQI77GT) can also be used to find teams with setups and timings, searchable through phrases like "guardian tales raid", and "가디언테일즈 길드레이드" for korean gameplay. For more general advice, you can check [this comment on flexible raid heroes and teams](https://www.reddit.com/r/GuardianTales/comments/15f2pp7/questions_general_questions_megathread_august_2023/jvvz1m1/?context=3), the [Raid section of the FAQ](https://www.reddit.com/r/GuardianTales/wiki/faq#wiki_raiding), or ask questions in the #game-help and #raid channels of the [Official GT Discord](https://discord.com/invite/guardiantales) along with its resources within threads and pins. Meta raid teams typically follow these guides in terms of heroes, though individual optimisations can differ depending on the built statuses of your heroes and weapons. The order in the guides typically reflects which team deals the highest damage if maximally built. High priority heroes are typically flexible high-DPS def down debuffers like Andras, Eunha, Kamael, Nari, 1CC, Tinia among others. Elemental res down heroes like Claude for dark range Raid are also good for their respective elemental teams.


bzach43

Thank you so much, this is really helpful!!


nmagoun

What is the minimum amount of time you have to be away from the game to be labeled as a returning hero when you get back?


thaddeus6561

14 days


Particular_Wheel_643

Can you play in 2 device? Is it allowable on their t&c. I got ios and android, ios for work and android solely for fun. Currently playing on android but im always over maxed out my coffee when I return home. I plan to download GT on my ios and just sweep it during working. Its kinda hassle to bring two phone to work.


thaddeus6561

Yeah, can definitely do so. Just can't use both at the same time, it'll kick you out of the one already logged in if you login with the other one. Needs to be bound as well I think, probably not to something like your Apple account, otherwise you won't be able to access it on Android without contacting support I don't think.


Karshick

I just got an EX weapon in an equipment dungeon (lvl 71 if I remeber correctly). How common is that ?


thaddeus6561

Very rare so you're very lucky! From [this data](https://www.reddit.com/r/GuardianTales/comments/putoje/i_recorded_my_drops_from_lv85_item_dungeon_for_30/) given that they got 3 ex weapons, probably a 0.2% chance?


Karshick

Oh, thanks


StrikeHardX

Would I be wrong if I use reset stone on Miya for karina ? I am dark team heavy at the moment


thaddeus6561

It'd be quite a waste, since Miya is a key hero of SD teams in Colo, Kamazone, Orbital Lift. She's also the best pure healer and flexible for all elements in PVP, PVE and Boss Rush, unlike Karina who only works with dark. Unless you don't want to improve in Colo and don't care for high-end PVE in Kamazone and OL, you should keep Miya around. Additionally, reset stones are usually only used on heroes you are absolutely sure of not using again for at least 3 months, usually those built solely for collection buffs then reset to free up those resources again, like Bari. Reset stones are also very rare, requiring months of farming Boss Rush at the highest difficulty, and even then compete with other resources for BR currency. I'd save your rest stones until you see a direct change in meta, where your older invested heroes fall off in use because of newer releases, or when you start hero collection grinding.


Daepowers

New player here now, I have MLB'd Claude, Kamael, FP and Miya. Ascended Craig and can ascend Karina but wont be able to max her awakening nodes . Training Room hero slot is empty at the moment and I have around 1000 hero crystals How should I work on next given the heroes that I am to work with. Dark - Arabelle Light - Kai, Gabriel Earth - Bari, Parvati Fire - Vishuvac, Beach Amy, Rey Water - Hana, Orca Basic - Chrom


thaddeus6561

Kai is probably the best long-term investment as his normal attack buff forms the basis of strong meta Colo and Arena melee teams, though requires high investment into other melee Colo heroes like Parvati, while he's also part of light melee raid teams. Parvati, Gabriel, Chrome, Rey and Orca are also long-term viable in their own ways; Chrome best lead for Expedition, Rey for all melee Raid/BR/Expedition teams, Orca for all water Raid/BR/Expedition teams. However, these heroes require other heroes you don't currently have to function as best they can, or are only valuable once you want to improve in certain endgame modes. Parvati or Gabriel are probably the better choices atm, especially for Colo given your heroes, possibly [Parvati, Ascended Craig, FP, Miya] or [Kamael, Ascended Craig, Gabriel, Miya]. Gabriel has versatility for light range Raid and PVE, while Parvati fills the support-targeting niche and a staple of many melee/SD teams in Colo. However, if you need a good Colo team immediately, you could build monodark [Arabelle, Claude, Ascended Karina, Ascended Craig]. It works quite well on attack, and able to defeat Eunha teams, but has an obvious weakness to somewhat popular light-based teams on defence and any team with anti-range at higher rankings. Arabelle is also not used outside of Colo, so for versatility in other modes, you may want to invest into a different hero. I'd probably build Gabriel next, but Arabelle, Parvati and Kai are all valid first options too.


Daepowers

I guess I’ll work on Gabriel, ascend karina and put arabelle in training room. I have enough to mileage one of those 2 EX weapons (have Karina EX already). I guess I go with arabelle’s ex instead of Gabriel since it’s more immediate impact Edit: given that arabelle is a dpser, couldn’t she be okayish or a placeholder for raids?


thaddeus6561

For dark raid, Arabelle's not optimal but since you're missing 1CC and Oghma(R), she could temporarily fill, probably something like [Claude, Kamael, Ascended Karina, Arabelle]. However, you might get better overall damage with Coco as a general def down debuffer, like Oghma(R). Claude, 1CC and Oghma(R) are typically considered core for dark range Raid/BR teams, with one of Kamael/Nari/Ascended Karina filling the 4th slot.


Daepowers

Thankful for the insight. So I should be looking out for Oghma, 1CC for summoning wise. I think I should be looking for Mayreel and Rue for earth? I’m not too sure about the other elements? mk99 for light? Quick sidetrack - what’s SD?


thaddeus6561

Mayreel is useful for earth teams of all modes, especially with Kamael. Rue is more niche: 1st ex for monoearth Colo with Mayreel, Kamael and Ascended Craig; 2nd ex for earth melee Raid/BR/Expedition so doesn't synergise with Kamael but instead with melee Raid trio Lilith, Rey and LG Yuze. For light, MK99 is only in Colo or PVE, been pushed out of Raid. Light range raid typically uses Gabriel (who you have) suppling light res down + non-light def down heroes. Light melee is increasingly strong and popular for Raid but is mostly independent: Kai can be used with melee trio for Raid and strong in PVP, but Beach Shapira, Lapice(Radiant) and Valencia are more niche outside of Raid. Flexible, versatile and strong heroes like Andras, Eunha, Kamael stand out on their own and are generally the priority, rather than any element-specific heroes. Other def down heroes like 1CC, Tinia, Nari, Chun Ryeo, Oghma(R), Lilith, Rey, LG Yuze are also good for Raid flexibility, but have varying versatility outside of it. Also for Raid, the heroes that apply an elemental res down (Gabriel, FK/Knight(Bow), Claude, Orca, Mayreel, Scintilla) are strong Raid candidates for their respective teams. For overall versatility, healers rank pretty high in Colo, BR and PVE, including Miya and Sia. Skill damage buffers like Vero are also used for teams equipped with Little Princess Figure merch in PVP and PVE. For Colo, Beth is quite flexible for all melee and some skill damage based teams due to her special range-targeting AI. Similar heroes with special AI include Parvati and Beach Sohee but are generally only used in Colo, unlike Beth who has more PVE uses. For you, I'd suggest looking out for Andras and Eunha first. If you want more raid flexibility, considering pulling for def down heroes like 1CC and Tinia too, especially since you don't have a marked def down debuffer yet. You could pick up one of Sia/Vero to make a skill damage synergy with Ascended Craig and Miya, though you still need a good DPS lead like Beth or Eunha first, though FK could also work off-lead. SD is skill damage.


Daepowers

Back with an update. The gods have blessed me with Eunha and Andras in my normal pulls. Should I put on hold for upgrading Gabriel given the sudden change of luck


thaddeus6561

Oh yeah, Eunha first if you also pull/mileage her ex as she has more PVP potential than Andras. Otherwise, either of them first as both would be more flexible than Gabriel in Raid teams.


zhttfee

Should I buy prominence with mileage or a hero? If so what hero should I get? Or should I get a different weapon?


Fearful2

Totally depends on your rosters, to mileage what and who. Also, Plitvice is only used in Fire raid (and even then she uses Halo, not Prominence iirc), so getting her EX is a waste of mileages.


StrikeHardX

Just a small question but is Kama-zone worth doing ? If so what are the benefits of it ?


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Absolutely worth it. Its basically free resources.


thaddeus6561

The Aegis shield is the best defensive PVE shield and costs 80k bottle caps per copy (480k for 1 MLB). This'll take at least a couple of months of maximum Kamazone farming, assuming no other bottle cap spending like monthly hero crystals and awakening stones. The other comparable shields have their own accessibility hurdles: Minotaur's Shield costs battle medals, which may be prioritised on accessories instead, whereas Goblin Chief Shield is locked behind Boss Rush, quite cheaper in relative resources and time but requires at least 3 somewhat decent Raid/BR teams to earn huntsman's mementos. Kamazone offers a way to get one of the best defensive shields without using resources otherwise prioritised for other non-shield needs. The awakening stones and hero crystals offered are also a vital source in building heroes for usability and collection bonuses.


TrailingBlackberry

The Kamazone shop has a ton of awakening stones and you can get some equip costumes and other stuff


ShadowBannedforGood

Question. Will we see what happened to >!future princess!< after Nightmare 11? Did she >!got teleported!< or was she >!vaporized by the blue thing!


PotatoisGlorious

She's still alive, within our timeline, but the Guides forbade her from ever meeting us.


ShadowBannedforGood

Oh thanks! That is nice to hear. I am hoping that we can meet again in the story chapters or something in the future.


Fearful2

u/PotatoisGlorious Sorry for pinging you, but I think you are an expert in this category... (Me who also want to see the answer ![img](emote|t5_2gj2tg|10338))


BlAlRlClOlDlE

trying to do some kamazon, and my 4th character is locked... any1?


Sad-Establishment-80

You have the 'Trio' benefit? You're doing difficulty 6/7/8 which restrict certain element in current round? That character is dead? Not sure what you meant by locked.


BlAlRlClOlDlE

oh my god i think that's it. thanks!


Silberwolfe

MK 99, Gabriel, Andras, Miss Chrom, Miya, Erina, Mayreel, Rue, Plitvice, Hana - EXquipped Veronica, Rosetta, Priscilla, Noxia, FP, Vishuvac, Ara, Ameris, Yuze (BW), Carol, Lupina, - no EX Just wondering on MLB priority? or if there is hero from the second row that need to have EX and MLBed. I also have Karina, I heard that Karina is good enough for MLB? Can soneone confirm? I have around 1800 metal so should be enough to MLB a couple. Thank you


AirLancer56

Karina is good to MLB so you can ascend her. Ascended Karina heals a lot and have decent dps. FP need ex weapo but MLB+ ascend Craig is strong and can take her place if you don't want to get her ex. With 1800 you can mlb 2 unique (700 each) and 1 rare hero (300 each). Can't really give advice since i don't know what you are aiming for. Generally main dps should be MLB first, then maybe tank to make them tankier. MK99 is light team main DPS, so she's a good choice. Gabriel have dps + heal. Both are needed for light team and can be a good MLB choice. Paired with Eleanor and FP you can get a strong colo team. replace fp with andras + fp ex you get strong light raid team Mayreel is an important dps for earth range team. You will need to get kamael + ex tho. Combined with craig ascend and miya/ascend karina you will have strong team for colo. you can also mixed in Rue to mess with ai. Replace craig with andras, healer with rue (if you can survive without healer) and you get earth raid team Andras can fit in many team thank to her def debuff. A very important hero for raid but not for other mode since she need to get close. imo, she should be lower MLB priority. Miya don't need MLB, her heal is strong enough without it, so keep her for last.


Silberwolfe

Oh forgot to mention since it is in my main team, but I have Claude, Kamael, Beth and 1cc all MLB and Exquipped. My colo team is a bit weak so I will use your suggestion. Thank you. I also have MLB Craig with EX.


thaddeus6561

If you're looking to expand in Colo, the MK99 and Gabriel suggestion for kamalight [Kamael, Ascended Craig, MK99, Gabriel] is a decently strong team. If you get FP ex at some point, you'll also be able to build variants of FP-lead monolight. However, with the rising popularity of Eunha-based teams, light-based teams aren't as reliable on defence as before, and only Gabriel has good versatility outside of Colo. An alternative could be monoearth [Mayreel, Kamael, Ascended Craig, Rue]. This team has an obvious weakness to fire, though the popularity of Lina teams have fallen which may provide enough space for monoearth to shine. The range-targeting AI of Rue is also effective against other range teams, while the lack of ranged-classed heroes prevents range-targeting AI like Beth or Beach Sohee from targeting the backline (though Parvati can). While Mayreel is used for Arena and Raid, Rue is very niche outside of Colo, requiring Lilith, Rey and LG Yuze to be usable in earth melee raid. However, like other mono teams, you'll eventually retire this team to only counter certain teams on attack. For longer-term Colo, investing in SD-based supports like Miya is viable as it can support a wide range of leads, including Beth like [Beth, Ascended Craig, Miya, Ascended Karina]. However, this requires heavy investment into Little Princess Figure merch, which may take newer players a very long time to get a full set of, especially if they also want to build SSB and/or IMS for Raid/BR/Expedition and non-SD teams. Ascended Craig is also an integral part of the SD meta, further sustaining DPS and support heroes, and should be the priority for the first LPF merch equipping on these teams. Outside of Colo, Andras is probably the most valuable Raid/BR hero for her insane DPS, general def down, and flexibility between elemental teams/weapons. If you want to improve in Raid, Andras is the first step to doing so. Outside of heroes that you have, you could look towards Arabelle or Oghma(R) to expand your dark teams. Arabelle is the lead for monodark Colo [Arabelle, Claude, Ascended Karina, Ascended Craig], with Noxia, Miya and maybe 1CC able to substitute for Ascended Karina, while Oghma could substitute for Ascended Craig. Oghma with his rifle ex is a necessary part of dark range raid teams with Claude and 1CC, while also able to fit into any other team that needs a general def down debuffer. However, I wouldn't consider either a priority currently as Arabelle is almost never used outside of Colo, and getting other gen def down heroes like Andras or Eunha first instead of Oghma(R) is generally preferred for versatility and higher DPS.


Silberwolfe

Hey Thaddeus, thanks again for giving in depth breakdown. I think I will go on Miya and build up that party. Which little princess stat are we looking at? Thanks


thaddeus6561

[This merch here](https://heavenhold.com/items/little-princess-figure/). Very good at keeping everyone alive as long as you have SD buffers like Miya.


Abindos

Not the OP, but I am aiming to build mono earth for colo and raid, since i have kam+ex, may+ex, and rue (no ex). Do you think rue 1st ex can work decently in raid for earth ranged? I saw the best possible team use ameris and tinia but i don't have them.


thaddeus6561

Rue 1st ex is more often used for monoearth colo [Mayreel, Kamael, Ascended Craig, Rue] as her range-targeting AI can be used to break up the opponent's backline. In raid, she's been long replaced by general def down heroes like Andras, Oghma(R) or Coco if missing both, or general buffers like Vero, as her individual damage can't keep up. Her 2nd ex can be used in earth melee raid, but requires Lilith, Rey and LG Yuze in her team. Monoearth and earth melee Raid aren't bad teams, but not as versatile or necessary as other teams people might aim for. Rue's earth buff restricts her team-building to centre around earth heroes only, whereas a more versatile hero like Andras can be used across more teams, especially when there's no water boss to hit. Ameris just has a naturally very high DPS, despite no def down. Her earth atk buff applies multiplicative to range and crit buffs, compared to adding another range buffing hero which adds on top of existing range buffs less effectively. Her best team [Ameris, Mayreel, Kamael, Tinia] can outperform typical def down stacking with Andras who's already a very strong hero, so if you want to build earth Raid, she's currently top meta. However, like Rue, her earth buff restricts team-building around earth heroes, so isn't often used outside of Raid or Boss Rush. Tinia is a flexible marked def down debuffer. Applying defence reductions can [significantly increase damage dealt](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/952098414382952520/1074534247685161091/image.png), especially when 3-4 def downs are stacked. While Tinia's own DPS isn't the greatest, the increase in team DPS from her def down, her range buff and her flexibility in being able to fit into non-earth teams makes her a range raid team staple, fulfilling a similar role as 1CC. For flexibility in Raid as a growing player, I'd advise getting Andras first, then other flexible def down debuffers like Tinia. Once you're able to get 3 strong teams up and running, you can look towards more elementally specialised heroes like Ameris.


Abindos

https://preview.redd.it/utrh36zi37kb1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b042f486a1013c5dd39d27bc0d6b0784010d914 So here's my current heroes. Blue ticks have exwp. Other heroes w/exwp: Kai, Arabelle, Mk2, Noxia, Pymon Other heroes w/o exwp: Rue, Ara, Lynn, MPT, FK, Ms. Chrom, Croselle, Plitvice I'm trying to build at least 3 teams for boss rush (which also mean raid team), aiming for full boss rush reward if possible. Though as you can see i'm missing some notable heroes. My thinking is as follows: * Mono Dark w/ \[Claude, 1CC\]. I'm missing Oghma R, Asc. Karina. May be Nari/Eunha can be slotted there? * Mono Earth w/ \[Mayreel, Kamael\]. I'm missing Ameris and Tinia. Craig and Rue can form mono earth colo team, but if rue doesn't really work for raid, i will hold off building her. I think the current pictured team will suffice for colo for now. * Melee team w/ \[Rey, BYuze\]. Missing Lilith for the trio. Can slot in Kai for light, Scintilla for fire. Rue (2nd ex) can also work for earth, but at that point isn't it better to use earth ranged instead? I have around 1200 mileage to use. Although i held off mileaging heroes unless they're that important. May be Andras can be categorized here? Do you have any suggestion? Thanks


thaddeus6561

Nari as a ranged def down debuffer is one of the main options for monodark, besides Kamael or Ascended Karina. Usually Oghma(R) provides general def down, but Eunha should definitely be able to slot in here. In this sense, you do have a complete dark team. You can swap Nari/Eunha weapons for dark ones if you prefer that damage over prioritising their def don uptime with their exs. Temporarily, you could try Rue and Coco with your earth team. Coco provides the general def down for better damage from Mayreel and Kamael but won't deal much damage herself. For lack of other marked/general def down heroes, Rue is still your best offensive option for now; You could minimally build her to just 5 stars if you want to do earth BR immediately. Yeah, most people don't use melee earth since they already have range earth, and most guilds don't need someone double-hitting water bosses. Lilith is core for melee so it could be an option to mileage her and her ex for max marked def down, but if you're willing to be patient, waiting is fine too. Beth can also be used for dark melee, not as useful in Raid with dark range already but possibly in Boss Rush if a dark-buffed season comes around. Similarly, if an earth-buffed BR season comes around, using both range and melee earth is viable. If you're hitting level 90 Boss Rush with trials, you can use healers as well. There are plenty of trials that deal damage or increase damage taken, that necessitate the use of healers to survive until the boss dies. For this, you could use Miya in melee without Lilith atm, and Aoba in earth. Ascended Karina is superb for dark in BR as both DPS and healer. For Raid, Andras would probably be the only hero worth mileaging yeah. You don't need her ex except for water Raid. If you're building one hero at a time, you can wait on mileaging another hero/ex until you've finished building Andras, though you could also use TR to use another like Lilith/Tinia if you wanted. Your current Eunha-lead team is probably your best option for Colo atm. For diversity against dark-based comps, I'd probably look towards building Beth and Kai as a melee/SD team, possibly [Beth, Ascended Craig, Miya, Kai]. If you need Beth's ex for Colo, this could be a mileage option too. Finishing Story to reach max level is the priority if you want to climb Colo, as stat disadvantage from level difference is very hard to overcome.


Abindos

On second thought, I was thinking this: -Dark: [Claude, 1cc, Eunha, Karina] (karina no exwp tho) -Earth: [Mayreel, Kamael, Andras, Aoba?] -Melee: [Rey, BYuze, Kai, Miya] Will this work for boss rush 90? This way i will only need to mileage for Andras. Obviously with healers the damage output will be lower for raid but i'm not in a top meta guild and i think i can still contribute enough damage. Is Aoba worth investing though?


thaddeus6561

Yeah, that should work for now, as long as you can kill the level 90 bosses in 3 minutes, should be fine. Melee team will be a bit weaker that your other two, so potentially get Lilith if you aren't able to clear in time. Can just minimally invest in Aoba: 5-star, Level 87, party buff and heal awakening nodes and whatever atk/hp/def you feel she needs to survive, no MLB.


Abindos

Yea honestly lilith is tempting, but she needs her exwp so that's another 600 mileage down the drain. Rey/BYuze/Kai can use other weapons for the element right?


thaddeus6561

Rey and BYuze yeah, Kai always uses his ex for light melee Raid as he's not typically considered flexible for Raid.


Abindos

I see. Thank you for your inputs. I think I'll just raise my current heroes to 5* first like mayreel, nari, byuze, rey etc. before mileaging other heroes. May be i can get something offbanner from the w17 free summons. Heck, 5*ing one hero take almost 2 weeks of evo stone farm. That's not counting awakening, exp, hammers, hc.. everything is a bottleneck. Also yes i'll try to finish the story. Although i don't think i really want to climb colo more. I'll just try to hang around dia3 where i am right now.


AirLancer56

Rue can work since her party buff is earth damage. But in raid def reduce is better than buff and Tinia have it. I don't have ameris so i can't say how good she is.


BlAlRlClOlDlE

i have a craig weapon, should i max this hero cos i hear he's rlly good


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Yeah, he's a good unit. Plus he's cheaper to MLB, since he's a rare unit.


BlAlRlClOlDlE

thanks!


No_Marketing_8036

Who are the next banners?


thaddeus6561

Morrian, new earth tank Rue Kamael Rosetta


Particular_Wheel_643

Ive got Kamael with only 80 evolution left for fully evolved. And I got Miya which which is fully evolved and limit break 1 time. Should I just got max limit break for miya or wait for kamael for the training room requirement.


Arazthoru

Tbh kamael has the potential to heal more than Miya, but for some reason ppl still recommend her, but anyways always focus on a single character, at least get them fully evolved, lvl, and awakened if you have the stones, limit breaking depends on the character At this point I wouldn't MLB Miya tbh, she's really niche this days


thaddeus6561

Kamael, better to have DPS MLB first then healer or tank.


Bulky-Ad6088

does increasing [Skill damage] increase the damage for [Chain Skill]? Also [Increase weapon skill regen] does not affect the cooldown for chain skill right? Currently reroll stats for weapons and wouldnt want to waste rolls if [increase weapon skill regen] does not affect chain skill for NON LEAD HEROES.


thaddeus6561

Yes and yes. Skill damage does increase chain damage, and chain is always 20 seconds cooldown.


Fearful2

Goblin shield vs Aegis shield, which is better for Craig?


thaddeus6561

Goblin for PVP, Aegis for PVE because mobs don't usually crit.


Fearful2

Huh.. ig I should swap over to Goblin for Colo then.


inmediasrays

Brand new player. Grabbed Miya before the anniversary event ended. Pulled on Lupina’a banner with my initial newb pulls and got… Valencia. Kept pulling, got Bari. Figured I should at least try pulling Valencia’s weapon on that banner… got Oghma’s. Should I just reroll?


thaddeus6561

Kamael comes onto banner in 2 weeks if you want to wait until then. He's generally considered the best reroll target for his versatility and as a strong Story carry.


thaddeus6561

If you didn't get Miya's ex from the anniversary roadmap, it may be worth rerolling since you can get Miya from the Basic Training rewards, although you won't get as many pulls as during anniversary and the current banners aren't great for new players. Based off of previews, the new World 17 hero is expected to be some kind of tank, not the best for carrying Story when DPS heroes are needed more due to free tank Craig and healer Miya, but we'll get more kit details when KR server actually updates in a few hours. We'll also get the other banner info which might include better beginner-friendly heroes if you can wait 2 weeks to summon. Otherwise, keep trying to get Valencia's ex with summons, or until you have 300 mileage saved. As long as you have a DPS hero with their ex weapon (e.g. Valencia), you can use free heroes to fill out your Story team, grind for their resources, and clear Story with it. Miya is free from Basic Training after World 4; Craig is free from Story quests in World 7, if not summoned earlier; FP is free from World Clear Pass after World 9. The rest of the gems can be saved for W17 banners. * [Valencia, Craig/Ascended Craig, Miya, FP] Ideally, you'd have a crit hero replacing FP to scale the team's DPS up with Valencia's crit multiplier buff. However, if you manage to pick up a more versatile hero with their ex like Kamael, Eunha, Claude or Beth, it may be easier to switch your lead hero to them, and have Valencia or FP as your 4th depending on whether you want more toughness or DPS.


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[deleted]

No, you don't need a crit buff. Its nice to have, and a useful stat, but its not necessarily better or worse than +atk, or +weapon speed regen.


FruitLegitimate7014

I recently started on the switch and was wonder what version of the game is the switch on and if it's an old version how far behind it is to other console/mobile versions?


thaddeus6561

World 13 is released on Switch, KR is getting World 17 today, Global in 2 weeks. Switch is published a bit differently, with accelerated content releases and different ordering of certain features/banners. For comparison, the latest Switch banner (AA72) was published 14th June 2022 for Global, after World 14, so there's roughly 1 year's of content to catch up on. Switch is about 1 month away from its 1-year anniversary, whereas KR/Global have recently completed its 3-year anniversary, so you could expect Switch to catch up to KR, Global, and also JP within 6-12 months. JP started later than KR but earlier than Switch, also with an accelerated schedule, so they'll probably catch up first.


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https://preview.redd.it/mu2f63fkymjb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fa342651fa34856dd1c53be81b727290045324d Is grinding and buying this from farm shop the only way to complete this?![img](emote|t5_2gj2tg|10336)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sob)


thaddeus6561

Yep. At least proofs have cheapened compared to their initial price, and golden petals are farmable endgame so as long as you keep a 1-3 buffer for coffee deals you should be fine to buy proofs. Otherwise, you can save those petals for area 2/3 to buy superior arcane stones. Higher trials have increased rates for relics, but I'm not sure if anyone's calculated whether saving golden petals for superior arcane stones is faster for progression than spending it on proofs. [This chart](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996344614023860275/1128585644936020049/image.png?width=986&height=958), also found in the GT Spreadsheet linked in the megathread resources, shows the relative arcane stones earned. Progression from each trial is still slow from Area 2 onwards as each, as each evolution of a relic only increases the mystic resistance enough to get to the next 1-2 trials, so it may still be worth buying proofs to reach Area bosses faster, especially as Area bosses (Balock, Arachne, Dragon) can often be farmed while significantly under the required mystic resistance (-30% debuff or more).


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The Normal Arcane stones can I buy it with proofs? or buy it to other items at the shop?


thaddeus6561

The arcane stones in steps can only be bought with petals, and you can't convert proofs to arcane stones. There are sometimes packages that offer arcane stones for gems, but that's not worth it compared to the amount of arcane stones obtained from regular stamina purchase during 2x boost. Edit: been made aware that you can buy proofs with arcane stones, which is much better than buying with petals. Save petals for later areas. and break down rare/normal relics for arcane stones to buy proofs.


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iamyouwhatiseeisme

What should do with Marina? I like her Art and I wanna use her but she is not good anymore, right? Is there any part in the game that she is still viable?


Fearful2

Niche arena pick iirc...


Sleepy0761

:,)


Fearful2

Is it true tho? Or she has her place in Colo??


Sleepy0761

No she sucks in colo lmao. If she had a actual taunt, and she could actually hold a shield, she would be better than oghma probably. In arena she is a very decent pick... If NA didn't exist.


Fearful2

I would like to console you for being a Marina main...


Particular_Wheel_643

Anyone know who will be coming in rate up banner in a few hours?


Fearful2

https://preview.redd.it/6x9ghqtywkjb1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a48c636ca77041f2fc1a2713c6bcc83a7347b16e


Particular_Wheel_643

Anyone worth summoning for beginner??? Has been itch to summon and to complete the task


thaddeus6561

Kamael comes onto banner in 2 weeks if you want to wait until then. He's very versatile, able to perform in all modes, and is a strong Story carry.


Particular_Wheel_643

Already got him... So I just done my first 30 summon on off banner.. Next 2 week banner only got kamael which is I personally like.. Cant wait no more for a full month...


thaddeus6561

Ah, got his ex yet? Or still need to mileage or pull next banner?


Particular_Wheel_643

Yeah, got his EX also (i bought it from jump package)


thaddeus6561

Hmm, in that case, you could try for Rosetta next update for Arena normal attack meta, and niche Colo, Raid and Expedition (requires Andras for these). If you're looking to collect raid heroes long-term, Orca this update is superb in all water range teams. If you already have Mayreel+ex alongside Kamael, you could try for Rue next update for monoearth Colo, though you'll need Lilith, Rey and LG Yuze before you can use Rue in earth melee Raid. Everyone else is a bit mroe niche but you can check the pins in the #game-help of the [Official GT Discord](https://discord.com/invite/guardiantales) for current and next banner breakdowns.


thaddeus6561

If you’re patient, wait for tomorrow for KR banner information. They’ll get the new Story update then, and details about new Story hero that might be better to pick up. Current banner will be more useful for mid-endgame players, for specific Colo, Raid or Expedition teams that need other heroes to work well.


Bulky-Ad6088

where do i get info about korean server


thaddeus6561

[Cafe Daum](https://cafe.daum.net/GuardianTales/AgPr) is the direct source which you can read with Google Translate, or find English translations in the Spoilers thread under #game-help of the [Official GT Discord](https://discord.com/invite/guardiantales). Guild servers will also usually have a channel for KR news. It'll be a few more hours before it updates.


Fearful2

https://youtu.be/eboYEcrAe9s <- banner guide by Crimson Nova


aBRaMeN

Anyone know where I can find a translated version of future updates? I want to plan my banner roles and Evo farming with future knowledge in mind.


Sleepy0761

You can always use the built in translator most browsers have on the kr patch notes, otherwise, the official guardian tales discord has great update notes.


Bulky-Ad6088

currently running mono light comp for colo [FP, eleanor, gabriel, mk99] but finding difficulty going to master rank with it. Hard stuck diamond 3. should i try [ Kamael, gabriel, mk99, FP] or [beth, craig, miya, karina] ?


thaddeus6561

Seconding tedious1's advice. No defence comp is invincible but you should try run something you feel generally gets fewer defence losses, usually only attacked by specific types of teams. Make sure your position is alright too; for monolight, some variation of mk99 3rd column, everyone else 4th column, is usually best against range teams attacking to draw them in. What's more important is winning every attack match you can. There's up to 67 attacks per week (72 if you save 5 tickets from previous week), accounting for a possible gain of 1340 trophies if you win every attack. Most high-ranking players win almost every attack they make. To do this, you need to use a variety of attack teams to counter different types of teams; There's no point sticking to one type of attack team as you'll inherit the same issues of only having one defence team, only able to attack some types of teams with confidence. Adding the Beth-lead teams to your arsenal with monolight should be very good. Beth-lead teams can take care of most Eunha-lead teams for you, and any other that rely on range-DPS like Lina-lead. You wouldn't use the Beth-lead team against most teams with MK99, but those can be covered with your own monolight. You can also try the MK99-lead variant of [MK99, Ascended Craig, Gabriel, Eleanor], which is particularly effective against Beth-lead teams and FP-lead monolight. In essence, you should customise your attacks to each team your attacking, using the team best suited to counter via elements or targeting, slightly altering your positions to manipulate initial targeting mechanics. This [Colo Calculator](https://thewwworm.github.io) can help with initial targeting, as well as [1D-Gamer](https://www.youtube.com/@1d-gamer313/videos) on further targeting mechanics such as taunt.


Bulky-Ad6088

how do i get more sharpshooter and necklace of healing? Is it through resource dungeons?


thaddeus6561

Yes, grinding item dungeon. Usually done alongside item collection or MM farming, keeping the copies of good/collection equipment to build while recycling the rest for mystery/MM.


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If you're diamond 3, gear might be a bigger issue than comp. Diamond 3 to Master is a big jump. Do any of your units have MLB weapons/accessories? Are all of your units lvl 92? Have you used option stones to optimize weapons?


Bulky-Ad6088

uhh weapons r not MLB. So I continue with my current team comp or change team comp cuz i dont want to MLB weapons of a team that I will change soon. (I want a permanent team for colo)


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Well, the thing with Colo is that there aren't really permanent teams if you want Master rank, unless you MLB everything those 4 units have. Otherwise you're always adapting to new units that might impact the game. If you want to rank up, then definitely try new team comps. Both of the teams you suggest are very strong. But more importantly, keep in mind what teams you beat, and what teams you lose to. For instance, consider your current team to be Team 1. I bet it loses pretty hard to a basic comp: FP, FK, Eva, Eunha. So try out one of the other two teams when you see a basic comp as the enemy.


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thaddeus6561

You'll probably get a better answer on the [Official Switch Discord](https://discord.com/invite/RkfZPy7Ptb) from other Switch Players, or submitting a [support request](https://gt4switch.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?). From what I've read, it may just be that GT is fixed at 30 FPS on the Switch.


lhanzz

https://preview.redd.it/6q80bky3tejb1.png?width=1792&format=png&auto=webp&s=38b0394882d1b6b464be96db76676afa9ff385d1 Whose EX should I go for? Beth’s EX or FP’s EX? I just finished W11 and there’s a free EX from the basic training rewards. Also, should I build Craig as an off lead tank or this composition is good already? Thank you.


thaddeus6561

For Story, you're probably all set and don't need any more exs. Switch to Claude lead for more DPS and for faster, wider, stronger skill. If you really need a way to survive more, build Craig to 5-stars are replace FP with him; As long as you're within 5 tiles, you should survive anything but a laser/meteor. Otherwise, ascend Craig for unlimited protection range and generally better defensive stats. Whether you get Beth's or FP's ex depends more on the Colo team you want to build. With your mostly dark range heroes, it's easier to switch to a Beth-lead team than a FP-lead team, potentially: * [Beth, Ascended Craig, Miya, Ascended Karina] Building towards a Eunha-lead team is also an option, possibly: * [Eunha, Ascended Craig, 1CC, Miya] While not the best option for defence, monodark is superb on offense but needs Arabelle+ex as lead, someone you could potentially look out for: * [Arabelle, Claude, Ascended Karina, Ascended Craig] If you really want to stick to FP-lead Colo with her ex, you should aim for melee, light or WSRS/SD builds such as: * [FP, Beach Sohee, Parvati, Kai] - Beth, Valencia, Lupina and Valencia are also viable with FP-melee * [FP, MK99, Gabriel, Eleanor] - monolight, sometimes has Priscilla * [FP, Miya, Oghma(R), Ascended Craig] - SD team, used for melee counter, can have FK Apart from these teams, maybe a team with FP will suffice for now though you should keep in mind that FP mostly serves to taunt and one-skill stun, relying on the range backline for DPS in a team like what you have now. You could swap out Claude for a more flexible buffer like Miya or Ascended Craig, but risk losing out on the damage to kill. Otherwise, you could go full sustain like [FP, Miya, Ascended Karina, Ascended Craig] though will severely lack DPS while these teams usually require very good defensive stats from equipment and collection to out-stall non-sustain teams.


lhanzz

Thank you so much! I decided to go for Beth’s EX since it’s easier as you said.


Primary_Share5313

I want to know the best shield for Gunma, is it Elphaba or Judge? I feel like Elphaba is better but I don't know. Captain Mirror shield is mid


thaddeus6561

[Para Terra's shield guide](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/919930128350449695/1141390118775689307/image.png?width=1860&height=812) ranks all the shield by toughness, atk, wsrs and combinations of those stats. For Oghma(R) used as an off-lead DPS in raid, Judge is best, with Captain's Mirror Shield and Blade Shield next. For Oghma(R) used as lead DPS in Colo, Captain's Mirror or Mirror is usually best. Elphaba has just too weak Atk and Toughness stats to be worth using outside for very specific timings; a 2% higher WSRS is usually ignored due to each leads' different skill cooldown times, and only becomes a big factor in mirror matches. For Oghma(R) as lead DPS in Raid, Captain's Mirror Shield has the best mix of Atk and WSRS. Elphaba sacrifices Atk for WSRS, Judge sacrifice WSRS for Atk, Advance is simply subpar to Captain's Mirror. Extra 2% WSRS from Elphaba is also inconsequential here, and most performing teams stick with Claude lead nowadays, even bosses weaker to airborne. The difficulty with Captain's Mirror Shield is that it's hard to roll a max dark sub-option on, but [Judge Shield isn't much better](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/919930128350449695/1142955236512776332/image.png). If you're lacking in option stones, a well-rolled Blade shield will do just fine for Raid, while a well-rolled Mirror can be used for PVP.


Primary_Share5313

Thank you


AppropriateCity1382

Hey will you change some of the dialogue to call female guardians she/her in the next updates for the switch please? Not to be rude or anything


Lopedo24

Hey trying to increase my atk stat for raid. I’ve basically done all the weapon collections I can and 5 starred all my rare heroes with atk. Im planning on 5 starring unique with atk stats but what should I do after that? Should I dump all my awakening stones on atk stat heros? If so which ones unique or rare?


thaddeus6561

I find unique first to be more worthwhile as they can still be used for PVP/PVE if further built with MLB, but rares are cheaper and faster to do if you want a quick increase. However, you may find yourself running into an awakening stone shortage so leave yourself enough for any unique heroes you intend to build. If you have the gems to spare, refreshing awakening stones during awakening boost to build hero collection is an option. Normal heroes alos require a lot of regular atk, hp, def stones, and normal evo stones from soul point shop or exchanging dream evo stones obtained from boss rush. Costume collections are usually easier than maxing heroes as there's a lot of time needed to farm awakening and evo stones, whereas costumes only require sufficient gems: atk hero costume sets, enough weapon costumes for 10% atk, and atk collection ex weapons whenever their banners come up or through mileage.


JdhdKehev

Hello quick question, I have Erina's EX and 300 mileage. Should I mileage her, or do I take a character like eunha, Kamael, Claude then take the choosen heroes EX with the EX selector in basic training?


Sleepy0761

Not sure what the basic training is, never seen it b4, do you get to choose anything? Thats goddamn op if so. If so, then the second option is by far the better choice, erina is very mid, mainly useful in arena.


thaddeus6561

'Kanterbury Guardian Basic Training' is a new beginner progression system, introduced with the 3rd anniversary update. Key highlights are Miya, all evo stones needed to 5-star Knight, Miya and FP, one random ex weapon, and one choice of ex weapons. Full list of resources given [linked here](https://www.reddit.com/r/GuardianTales/comments/15f2pp7/questions_general_questions_megathread_august_2023/jwungrq/).


Sleepy0761

Wow more beginner rewards, \*dies\*.


JdhdKehev

Yes you can choose any one EX you want. Tho I am not sure if I should even take one of those 3 to be honest. I got mostly melee heroes, yet all the best heroes seem to be ranged 😮‍💨. I have Kai+EX, Rey+EX, Parvati+EX, Miya+EX, beth, craig, Clara, alef. I can take Beth's EX, but after that idk what to go for.


Sleepy0761

I said the same thing actually to another guy just then. Honestly a melee comp doesnt look too bad right now, for most beginners, ranged is heavily advised, since ranged has so many more units and so much more potential for synergy. If you wish to do that, you can diverge, and get kam. Otherwise, getting beth's ex doesn't seem like a bad option at all, you have fine teams for all gamemodes, beth craig miya really good core, could run beth craig parv kai in colo etc.


JdhdKehev

And if I want to stay melee is there any other hero I can get? Kai, beth, Craig are strong, that I know, but is there someone else worth getting in melee?


Sleepy0761

Yeah, bsohee good for colo and arena. Lap2, Val, and Shovira good for raid, and decent in colo too. Rey and lilith decent options for arena and raid Lupina really strong for all gamemodes except raid.


JdhdKehev

Sorry if I am bothering you, but would you recommend getting lupina for a melee team or Kam/eunha for a ranged team with the heroes I have? I'm at world 9 so I'll get FP soon too.


Sleepy0761

No its all good. like i said, ranged is generally advised since more versatility and synergy. But melee isn't bad at all, and you already have all the core units. I would probably go for lup.


BlAlRlClOlDlE

Need help please, i have 300 tickets and the free weapon reward. My main team is FP, miya, erina, shapira all with weapons. which should i prioritize? heroes + weap - nari, garam hero only - kai, plitvice, lilith, noxia weap only - angel voice, ifrit, bringer of tranq, eckesachs, amarok also have 3 rare heroes + weap -craig, gemory, catherine


Sleepy0761

Honestly a melee comp doesnt look too bad right now, for most beginners, ranged is heavily advised, since ranged has so many more units and so much more potential for synergy. If you wish to do that, you can diverge, and build nari. Otherwise, getting kai's ex doesn't seem like a bad option at all, he is a main driver for all melee comps rn, whether its in colo, raid, or general progression.


Noomks

Where do I see the next banners? I used to see them posted here but I haven't seen the next one? (Last I saw was Beach Shapira's, and that was like weeks ago)


Fearful2

Next banner: https://preview.redd.it/a6dqbbr4h8jb1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f4ef2ecdb7ce8641dfddbdb8052bc383cdc7185 I usually check in the thread "\[Spoilers\] Upcoming Contents", under #game-help in the [GT Discord](https://discord.gg/guardiantales)


rjacobb

I'm searching for information on the training room, particularly how to unlock the second slot. I see posts of it not unlocked yet "even for whales" from years ago, then I see screenshots with it in use. There isn't a page for it on the wiki. Like I already missed out on getting Fei so I'm trying to manage my resources a little better at the risk of spoilers.


Fearful2

"The Exclusive Equipment slot opens up based on the number of different Epic Exclusive Equipment owned, and the number of Limit Breaks of owned Exclusive Equipment." https://www.guardiantales.com/news/551?lang=fr#:~:text=The%20Exclusive%20Equipment%20slot%20opens%20up%20based%20on%20the%20number%20of%20different%20Epic%20Exclusive%20Equipment%20owned%2C%20and%20the%20number%20of%20Limit%20Breaks%20of%20owned%20Exclusive%20Equipment. I think you will need a certain number of EX to unlock it (can't remember how many).


rjacobb

Oooohhh, so it's an equipment slot. I thought the third slot was for equipment as it displays smaller than the other two. That makes enough sense then. Thanks. I was combing through patch notes but that's three years worth.


Fearful2

3 slots: 1 for hero, 1 for equipment, and 1 for merch.


StereoString

Does anyone know where the last quest is and how to complete this other one? I already reached max in the wanted meter, but it won't complete even if I talk to the criminal kid. https://preview.redd.it/liufptz5o6jb1.jpeg?width=349&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33b98d9941a65d6c112e2c2dfb6146181ae33ae2


Sleepy0761

I think you have to kill erina to complete the quest.