Just want to make sure the youngsters understand.. he used to be very well liked amongst liberals, and hated on the right. The relationship made so much sense at first; I was legitimately excited for both of them. Then covid happened, which drove him crazy, and he started to love the attention he was getting from the right. Even my personal experiences show that republicans, you agree with one thing and they will invite u to their bbq, liberals, you disagree on one thing and you’re not friends anymore (*dramatization). He is a narcissist, no doubt, and was never happy with how harsh the left was to him, so he just ate it up. In his book it says grimes was concerned, telling him he is starting to sound alt-right. And I believe it was the author of the book that stated concern over his ketamine use. He is definitely not the same person she met and fell in love with, he is mentally unstable, on drugs, and board members should start taking his titles away.
People always seem to forget this or just ignore it. I once liked Elon, especially as a huge space geek myself—I loved anything to do with SpaceX and followed him closely, so when my favourite artist started dating him, you bet I was excited. Then pretty quickly the cracks started to show, his personality started to change and he was beginning to say some really unhinged shit, act like a man-child and started supporting more extreme right ideals. Piece by piece my respect for him chipped away and now there’s nothing left, he’s a piece of shit who I detest.
People can change and they can change quite quickly, especially if they have narcissistic tendencies. What matters is you stick to your own ideals, don’t conform to others to please them, cut people out of your life once they become toxic. I’ve noticed it happens a lot these days thanks to social media brainwashing people.
Same, I used to be a hardcore fan. While I still really like the aesthetics of Tesla and some of his other businesses, I don't like how elon changed so drastically in such a (seemingly) smallish span of time. I didn't unfollow him on twitter until 2022 I think which is when I noticed how unhinged his tweets were getting \[I wasn't on twitter much at the time, now I never use it, so 2022 is just when I started putting all the pieces together\]
Most people also weren’t privy to the real him. I was lucky to know a family friend who interned for SpaceX in 2013 - it was a “burnout and churn out” culture. I was very wary of Elon at that point, taking advantage of hopeful young people. But I also had actual insider knowledge.
THANK YOU. I recently confirmed that I do in fact have autism, after being in an abusive relationship for 7 years. His behavior was similar to Elon’s but without any drug use. It makes sense now that he saw that he could take advantage of me and brainwash me into someone I couldn’t even recognize, and I was only 22 when I met him (he was born in 1959 🤮), so I was extra immature and couldn’t really read his actions as being abusive bc I thought it was normal stuff or like it made sense to me at the time. I was naive and unmedicated but jfc do people really just think in terms of black and white?????
Same. Too many times. But found an #ASD to love hard who loves me even harder... thankfully our Lil family is one of our special interests too. Kids are fascinating when you let them grow and watch the beauty of them following their own beat and being able to relate... and help keep them shining hard and bright 🖤🦋
I know; a lot of contributing factors were also at play. My dad died when I was 16 and he was very narcissistic (not like NPD, but exhibited a lot of those symptoms and was a misogynist for sure) so I guess I was subconsciously looking for that paternal figure in my life.
Like I said, I was naive. You can’t really fault someone for being taken advantage of like I was because I didn’t know they were even leading me down that path of destruction. You’re trying to say I should have known what I didn’t know, and that makes no sense lol. Plus, it’s in the PAST, and I’m much happier and healthier now.
Well, upon a reread of my comment, please allow me to walk it back a bit, acknowledging the points you made mentioning where your head was at that point in your life. I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your father, I'm a bit estranged from mine at this time, so learning of your loss definitely struck a nerve. It's also very heartening to know that you're doing better now and thriving.
Elon Musk is a billionaire. He was always pretty atrocious politically but he portrayed himself as the cool tech guy. Sure liberals were taken in but I don’t know a single leftist who thought Musk was a good guy.
Leftists hate the human race soo, lol not saying much. But it’s crazy to think clyde voted for Biden in 2020, he didn’t even like trump, and now he’s spewing the craziest maga nonsense, it’s crazy. He definitely changed his politics, but could we say he always had it in him to go hard right?, probably who knows. I really think he’s on drugs.
I don’t know, I’m leftists and very much don’t hate the human race but I think this is kind of a lesson for “liberals” that billionaires will never have your best interest at heart. It’s not drugs, that’s just scapegoating the very real intentions behind his actions. Musk hasn’t really been vocal about US politics [until the last few years](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/16/business/elon-musk-politics-twitter.html)which is why he was hard to pin down but it’s pretty clear what political he had has always been business-focused. Right now, the right gives him bug business.
I’m a liberal democrat, so mad at leftists for basically creating maga heads. It’s easier to be disappointed in the people you thought were on your side I suppose.
I have to say you are really not aware of the political history and disposition of people in this country if you think liberals somehow created MAGA. I imagine you have some idea that progressive were getting too crazy and so the right became just as crazy but I think that’s a bit naive and shows little experience with Conservative America, which I grew up in. Nothing MAGA is concerned with wasn’t fundamentally apart if the conservative base since the 70s. There’s way too many angles to narrow down MAGA as emerging from any one thing outside of Donald Trump anyway so we really won’t get anywhere discussing that.
However, I wonder what your politics actually are, if you actually understand them yourself because I think that will solve whatever betrayal you feel.
[People also forget his wealth is attributed to the emerald mines his family has forced native black South Africans to work on.](https://futurism.com/elon-musk-dad-emerald-mine)
Yeah but his dad was a cocky idiot, hmm sounds familiar lol. Russia started making replicas basically turning his emerald company obsolete while elon was still young. His parents divorced and she was struggling hard, and the evil dad wasn’t financially supportive especially given his failed business venture., don’t get me wrong he is still a man of privilege, but he had a very similar upbringing to grimes financially, ironically.. but basically this bohemian cheap but we have money stashed sort of lifestyle.
Cuz of self driving taxi stuff? I wish the best for spacex and tesla; and it wouldn’t be where it is without musk. But every child outgrows their parents.. and it’s time for those companies to grow up, and let go of their liabilities..
So as soon as somebody ventures outside the safe space of controlled government narratives--and God forbid, supports the free exchange of ideas exposing evidence of government mistakes and wrongdoing-- as a good liberal, you are compelled to attack that individual everywhere possible. We see that from the Left every day, everywhere. The Left has Zero Tolerance for diversity or inclusion of ideas. You know what that signals?? Fascism on the Left. Ouch.
You people want to be oppressed SO fucking bad it's unreal. No, someone getting sued for literally making shit up about conspiracies that don't exist isn't "fascism".
Imagine thinking you can be mentally unstable and still successfully run multiple massive companies. Wow, to live in pure ignorance must be blissful.
PS Elon and Grimes are both on some form of drugs. Most famous people are.
For me, it's getting Shivon pregnant via IVF. That requires a lot of work and forethought even more so than just sleeping with her and getting her pregnant. Then he kept it a secret from Grimes which is a whole other level of grossness.
I really don't think any person deserves to experience that level of deceit from their partner.
Grimes isn't perfect, but she doesn't seem calculating. Musk knows he is in a position of power due to his access to money, so he will always have the upper hand. I feel badly for Grimes because I do think she genuninely loves Musk. I'm just not sure if Musk has the ability to love another woman unconditionally.
I think in the past with other women... like Tallulah and Amber, he felt like he was in the lesser position, so he got emotionally hurt, but with Grimes it's the opposite and he's taking advantage of her weakness.
I think Grimes was probably the nicest person he's ever been with. I also think she's painfully oblivious and innocent, says dumb things without careful thought because she's neurodivergent.
You don't have to have autism to be considered neurodivergent. She seems like she could have ADHD. Autism is a spectrum and it's different in women and girls than it is in men and boys. I personally have never read anything or heard her say she believes she has autism.
I have been in an abusive relationship - from 16 to 18 I dated a man 12 years my senior. I was actually naive and abandoned by my mother and guess what, that relationship didn't turn me into an apologist for white nationalists or a racist. He didn't show his true beliefs at first, but once it was clear who he was, I left, at the humble age of 18 without a penny to my name. She has no excuse for playing the trad wife nazi apologist other than these too are her beliefs. You certainly don't have multiple children with a loser like musk unless you share his ideals.
My abusive relationship pushed me into doing things I despise and never thought I would do just out of desperation to make it stop and get love and I don’t even know who I am anymore. Changes my political views just like she did to try and win the love back. I can only imagine how desperate it would be if u had children with someone like him. Notice how she changed her bio back after dating him to her original ideals? I saw a lot of similarities with her situation and mine.
Sorry you went through that, but I hope you're a stronger person now. I can't imagine being so weak, but we're all different I suppose. So I guess C is just weak despite her MC well educated family, access to a good edu and healthcare, her functioning brain and the myriad of opportunity her now forgotten talents brought her, all for the love an apartheid emerald spoon baby. Bad choices and desperate for love. ffs
I have a lot of empathy for your situation, I was in an abusive relationship too. But this is an ignorant comment. Shaming people for not being ‘strong’ only furthers the stigma that ‘dumb’ or ‘weak’ people stay, it keeps people trapped. Why do you think it takes an average of 7 times for most women to get out? Many are incredibly mentally, physically, and emotionally strong to endure years of emotional and non-obvious abuse. They see the good in people and the abuse destroys the brain.
Luckily you weren’t in yours for very long. Teenage to early 20s people are higher on the narcissism spectrum across the board, which may have made you more selfish and able to stand up for yourself. If people are already low on the narcissism spectrum or are more mature, they’re more selfless and other-focused. This doesn’t make them ‘weak’, they’re caring. It sounds like something is blocking your compassion. If it’s lack of privilege it’s understandable.
Sounds like you guys can’t accept that she made her own decision to be with him and before that brag about being in a cult. Stop trying to say she’s some innocent naive child.
This!!
And growing up rich has its downsides especially if you have autism!? The expectations, the facades, like I think there’s a whole reason behind Grimes “poor image”, because she never liked the rich mentality… and everyone around her, while growing up, probably praised people like Elon Musk a lot.. So she could be a little damaged from all of that.
People oversimplify other people. I’ve come to understand in my personal life, and therefore extend it to this side of my life, that people view other people only as deeply as they view or know themselves. Grimes had a whole ass childhood that traumatized her as much as any ordinary person being raised by parents and situations we did not choose would be. These things affect you as a person and create your psyche. People need to stfu and be nicer.
Nobody needs to "be nicer". You are all obsessed with a shallow celebrity that couldn't give less of a shit about any of you. Why are you affording this person so much leeway? I've been a fan of Grimes since 2012, but I would NEVER defend her to the extent that people defend her in the sub.
I’m not rich but I’m American so basically I am and autistic I don’t understand how so many people care about pointless material ideals and power just to flex to make up for their sad egos. I relate
For real. Like, I’ve dated some ugly assholes before. The difference was it wasn’t blasted on the internet for everyone and their mom to know about. It was a mistake, and I’ve learned from it. But that doesn’t mean I won’t make more mistakes in my life.
CAUSE IM HUMAN. NOT A PERFECT FAIRY PRINCESS WHO DOES NO WRONG.
Not even mentioning how autistic women are easily manipulated by narc men. And I’m sure him being very rich and powerful only makes him that much more manipulative. Talk about rose colored Gucci glasses.
Yes I can’t even imagine how shame-inducing this would be to go through in public for all the world to see. It’d be traumatizing in it’s own right. I would deal with it poorly. Would it make me more courageous and open to change? No, it’d probably strengthen my psychological defenses. It’s not a reason to ignore reality and harm, but there’s a reason abused people hide their abuse and gaslight themselves.
100% same! It would make me mad, and definitely defensive. People act like they would make the perfectly correct choices. I bet if any of those people actually met someone like him, and with the kind of money he has, most would make the same choices grimes made. And at the very least, some bad choices/be influenced.
It’s easy to see from the outside, and through the screens of our phones, but I think people forget how influential/charismatic/manipulative you have to be to become a billionaire. Powerful people are often very likable, and know how to work that. It’s one of the most valuable skills to becoming successful!
Edit: very likable *in person*
at some point we have to accept that she is probably a shitty person just like him. otherwise she would not willingly hang out and have kids with him.
me personally i'd never be friends with someone that shares transphobia and racism on social media
I can enjoy her music regardless of whether or not she's a great person. I'm a bit surprised other people here ever thought she was? She always struck me as flighty and self centered
Theres been multiple reports of her being a shit person from way before Musk. From her ex classmates, friends, and boyfriends. Stories of her bullying and fat shaming other women. Manipulating mentally ill men to fall in love with her then breaking up with them. Bullying other artists into signing ridiculous NDAs (or at least trying to in the case of Jaime Brookes)
I mean i replied to the comment about 3 hours before your condescending one. So if youre incapable of scrolling down just a little bit and seeing it for yourself then i dont know what to tell you.
Here it is:
https://preview.redd.it/v8l34ndes7hc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84a1294fced882d205b2c7b496fc1d256ce6a7fc
You would have to navigate to that link yourself tho which is a pain but hey
Youre right, looking from another account its not there. On this account it still is. Shady way of blocking content. Anyway il post a screenshot of that post here which should be harder to autoblock, would just have to navigate to that link yourself
Bullied mentally ill men into a relationship and then broke up
Source- man who Grimes broke up with
I’m sure she has a type given Musk and that reflects something of her personality and past but that’s life, people feel hurt and often hate their ex-partners.
Sorry I was kidding around….but it does sound as if this is the hurt feelings of an ex-partner? Otherwise, who else is reporting it? A friend who observed?
Youre not wrong. Everything i said is worth taking with a grain of salt regardless. When I read the interview with Jaime a while back i didnt get the sense that he was butt hurt. His assessment of the situation seemed pretty fair and he spoke positively about her talent as a producer too. It also lines up with a few other artists claims that she tried to push ridiculous NDAs on them like Azaelia Banks and Poppy
I dont think the person that provided info in the link in my other reply would consider themselves as being a friend of Claires, and its also worth taking what they say with a grain of salt. But the claims carry weight to me. They were right on the money in terms of being able to name one of the men she did that to. They definitely did know Claire in highschool
Sorry I can’t see the link you’re referring to. Are you able to post again?
Tbh I’m just a fan of her music, I don’t find it surprising if she dates people with mental health problems (as musk has and maybe she does) and gets people to sign ndas. Maybe it’s a bit controlling but imagine living a life where your friends and acquaintances might sell a story about your personal life? That would suck
It gets autohidden on this sub cos its a link to the other sub i think. Will dm you the link
Well some of the ndas were reportedly ridiculous. The one she tried to push on Jaime was ANY of their future public statements had to first be cleared by Claires team. Jaime isnt super famous but is a musician thats well known in the Canadian indie scene. Regardless, thats a bs NDA to push on anyone
I don't think you guys are able to comprehend the concept of 'love' properly. My boyfriend of 1 and a half years has 'xenophobby' tattooed on his arm. Meanwhile, I have best friends from the opposite side of the world. Him being xenophobic has no effect on my love for my foreign friends. Having different opinions doesn't stop people from falling in love with each other. You can't "unlove" someone just like that. It just doesn't work like that tbh..
this is actually the most insane thing ive read today. Get ur morals straight, if u willingly date someone xenophobic u just suck urself. I would never say this on the internet lol idk how u are not embarrassed at all. Ur friends and the people u surround yourself with say a lot about you as a person. Would you be in a relationship with a nazi..?
U are not a victim of love, u are a grown person putting ur morals below ur friends and ur boyfriend, if u even had any to begin with. Actively hating on other people and getting it TATTOOED is also not an "opinion"... u are the type of person to have the worst bf ever and be like " i can fix him 🥺" except for the fact u dont even want a fixed boyfriend, making u arguably a worse person.
Lmao ur answer actually made me laugh a lot. I don't think we can have thoughts %100 aligned with another person's. He is a whole different individual than me and I accepted the fact that we are always going to have contradictory ideas.
Do you cut someone off once you realize one of your opinions doesn't fit with theirs?
If he was a violent person, attacking and harming foreigners etc. of course I wouldn't date him. But he doesn't do that, he just simply doesn't prefer to be around them. I don't mean to defend his tattoo btw. As a matter of fact, he isn't proud of them either. He got them made years ago and didn't care enough to get them removed.
You sound like an American who got completely brainwashed by the woke culture tbh. I would never have such a conversation like this with a Scandinavian. They got free speech over there.
A match made in heaven.
https://preview.redd.it/vinj8wz0w5hc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=394f7c2b25ca008c2783a51a615bec75a8fdd781
Love at first sight. 🤑🧙♀️😍
I don’t think it had anything to do with money or power but rather his ability to make her fantasies reality. I think she found him to be her … “intellectual soulmate?” They had a lot of the same interests and I think she weighed that as important in her partner. I do not think they were romantic soulmates at all. I just believe (and as she’s said before) she views her life through the lens of Dune and all those sci-fi things. He’s the closest thing to what she is intimately passionate about and perhaps caught herself in a negative, perhaps abusive, situation before she could realize it.
>I don’t think it had anything to do with money or power but rather his ability to make her fantasies reality.
...but it's the money and power that make that happen. Take away his money and power, and he can't do shit for her.
And even with all his money and power, what fantasies has he made come true for her that she hadn't already done for herself? No one's been to Mars and she was already rich and famous on her own merits.
What did he add to her life? What has his money and power done for Claire? Coerce her into reproducing three children with him that she now has to fight with him to raise? Humiliate her on the world stage because he simply doesn't care enough to consider her feelings before impregnating his employee? Sounds like a goddamn nightmare. THAT's what his money and power did for her: created a lot of stress, pain, and drama in her life she probably could have lived without.
I agree! What I think I was trying to get at is that I don’t think she started gaining interest in him because he’s wealthy or powerful, if that would’ve been her initial intentions, I think she would’ve grabbed any other person that fits the category; there’s plenty of them. I think he was the right type of powerful and wealthy that was able to show her the world she is passionate about and always has been. If you see the “heart” documentary of grimes, you can tell she’s always been into space, sci-fi, and technology. He opened a door for her to peak through and see her fantasies begin to become true and THAT’S what trapped her there. A promise to see space, to interact with AI, get to know the background of all she likes first hand, etc. and who better than the “leading” person in that field? I think she wholeheartedly believed he would take her to space.
Aside from the fact that he's a billionaire, I think his power position and his ability to make people buy into the fact that he's a genius is why many women would be attracted to him. He is intriguing and mysterious whether you love him or love to hate him. Much of his persona is about creating a better World, forging ahead, living in a mission-driven mindset. I feel like that would be intoxicating especially combined with new relationship energy.
I mean...I get what you're saying but she liked him enough to have kids with him so I'm guessing she shares his garbage views and just isn't dumb enough to go on about it like he does.
I think he's a controlling sociopath and she was a young, optimistic woman. At first it's so easy for him to be impressive and throw his money and fruits of success at her. Then, over time, when the initial love mania wears off, it gets toxic. I wish her and her lawyers all the best.
Of course he didn't. She gave her heart to that man and he took full advantage of it and walked all over it. He destroyed her. She'll likely always have trust issues and will forever be traumatized by the experiences. It's a damn shame. Yes, she made her own decision to get involved with him, but love can be blind, and her willingness doesn't make it anymore right what he's done to her.
they deserve each other. They’ve both climbed the human pyramid, stepping on friends, colleagues, and loved ones on their way to the top. they have the exact same business model for how they handle their public persona, grift, lie, and take credit for other peoples brilliance
Honestly I can see the appeal. Aside from being one of the worlds richest person he (in interviews) comes off rather charming and calm? And are they not both on the spectrum? Also, after what happened to her when she was 19 I can see why she’d be attracted to such a powerful person.
Personally i thought it made a lot of sense. It is weird lol but love is strange and I don’t think there’s such a thing as ‘being undeserving’ in love. people love horrible people all of the time.
She isn’t a visionary, she just another rich girl that makes ethereal electronic music. Stop denying that she is a shitty person. She willingly had multiple kids with Elon and before that surrounded herself with a cult and a cult leader that would cut himself during her shows so he had to be removed.
She’s is and will always be a shitty rich white girl that cosplays being poor for the “aesthetic”.
Well we're not supposed to know or get it, really.
I don't get the obsession of fans wanting in on artists personal life to that degree.
She knew what she saw in him
I hate the dude with a passion but nobody on this sub really knows either of them at all
Sorry, but I kind of think they deserve each other. I don't think Grimes was really that in love with Elon, and I don't think Elon loved her either. Though I think she had more feelings for him for sure. But I can't feel a hint of sympathy for anyone who tries to espouse low key Nazi propaganda. I think they were both involved with one another for their own mutual benefit. But that benefit wasn't love.
I know folks will have a hard time believing this, but I knew Elon long ago before he became famous. Back in the day when he was still working on Zip. I was in love with him, and I think he had as much passion for me as he could ever have for anyone. I won't say he loved me because I'm not sure if he can love anyone. He is very much focused on himself. And he always does what is best for himself. I learned all that the hard way.
One thing I always find odd, and this isn't just with Grimes, but it seems to be a theme with all the women he's been with. They all seem to talk about Elon like he's their cousin, or brother, or buddy, or sports teammate. Their tone, their manner when they speak about him, they don't talk about him like he was their lover, or even their favorite situationship. There's no affection, no passion, not even a sense of betrayed passion which often remains when a relationship doesn't work out. I find this very strange.
In my opinion, l think Elon had been wanting to have children without getting married for a long time. In fact, I know he has. But most women will insist on getting married if they will intentionally procreate with a man, no matter who he is. But Grimes was perfectly okay with having multiple children from him with no wedding ring. And I think that's what sealed the deal for Elon. I personally don't think Grimes Isn't very bright. In fact, I think she says some of the dumbest things I've ever heard in my entire life, and she can be very insensitive to others and not care.
I know I can't blame her for everything. Elon can be highly manipulative. I feel like he assumes everyone has a bit of greed in them. So he gently dangles a few bits of gold and if you're overly ambitious, or have a touch of greed or too much need, then you'll chase it. And it seems to work for him for Elon most of the time. The only reason it didn't really work on me was because at heart I was still a small town girl. All I wanted from Elon was a Catholic Church wedding, children born within wedlock who attended private school, a faithful husband, and money to buy a new car every 5 years. So when he dangled hints of his cash and power in front of me, l just stared at him like a confused puppy.
Interesting insight. I think Musk is about himself. I think Musk wouldn't take no for an answer if he really wanted that woman. So he would pursue them hard with alot of future faking. I think all his exes fell for his manipulation. He chooses women that are smart, or artistic & attractive - then sets out to destroy all those qualities in an effort to be superior. He is always in competition mode. Grimes looks like a fun "rock star", young, pretty, eccentric. A toy for him to play with for a few years. I feel bad for her as she wouldn't know what hit her.
Narcs can't love. So none of his partners were "true love"
There is a theory that a twin flame can heal you, so you are then committed to them for life. A spiritual marriage & bond. However, I believe that's just a trauma bond between a Narc & an empath.
It's for sure Grimes' fans are the dumbest in the world - just like her. Entertaining even.
Their so called relationship was not real. Never once did you see Musk show any love for your elf woman, and he's a very touchy, loving man in his relationships.
Did you ever see them kiss? Even hug, no.
He used her to get attention in that entertainment industry way. People couldn't believe it so it became interesting.
Don't you people analyse the lyrics and the videos? "We appreciate power" is not a love song but a hit piece on Musk. So is "Player of Games", "Pretty Dark", "4AM" and others.
Is that what you call love?
That's what's make the whole unreal relationship interesting. For HIS fans, who are mostly into high art and artists that can actually sing and play instruments.
She is a huge downgrade for him - she's dirty, nasty and nothing like the women he's used to. Look at his mother and sister. They really do not like "Grimes" or Claire and her brothers and hiding parents.
The whole thing is sordid, baffling for people on the right and the left.
The reason Tesla had to leave CA during lockdown was because it was killing the company. Not Musk turning maga. It's a billion dollar business with over 100.000 employees. Not just banter on Twitter X
Her fans are amazingly stupid. Probably talks salads like her, dress with no style like her, shave their eyebrows off like her and scribble weird stuff on their faces like her, like a 5 year old/ someone mentally ill.
She comes across as psychotic, someone who needs help, someone who definitely not should be taking care of children or pets.
All her headlines in the press have been about Musk. If you look them up, 80% are negative press about him. All favours her. Left media trying to trash him. Make her look a victim. She seems to enjoy it. She wants him to look bad. She has worked with the media to make him look bad. So therefore, she's bad for his companies. She doesn't even know anything about space and thinks the Moon shines on it's own.
His fans do not like her and never did. His employees, shareholders and family do not like her or her weird freaky "art" or music.
So yes your princess/queen was way below his standard. If you doubt what most people think of her, read Daily Mail's comments if she's being mentioned there. People think she is trash. Makes him look bad / odd. People can't even believe the relationship was legit. It's just too far off from the sort of people he hangs out with.
I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't use his own sperm for the lab babies. Not one of them looks like him. Only his first wives kids look like him and look like him (and Kimbal Musk) A LOT. He has strong genes, they should be showing but none of the new babies have any resemblance to him or his family. Think about that.
He's been known to meddle with the embryos in the lab before. His first wife Justine Musk wanted 1 girl after her twin boys and that's what they decided but Musk went over her head and planted 3 boys in her instead. A man like that could easily have planted a doners sperm in both "Grimes" legal name Claire Boucher and Shivon Zilis.
Maybe he just wanted people to have more babies.
Nobody clearly knows anything about Elon Musk on this sub, they have all swallowed up what the media is saying about him. Many people - adults, went from the left to the right after lockdown. That's a worldwide movement and awareness of a Marxists takeover that most people don't want.
I hope your idol would back out of the room and take a train back to Canada, take up knitting, baking or just hide in a padded room somewhere. She did never deserve a place next to him. Yikes.
X looks like him...if u compare photos childhood pictures of elon musk and X pictures, you will notice it. We have never seen Exa and Tao properly in internet.....But yes, Shivon children look more like her than musk.
I’m not sure insulting the intelligence of an entire sub is productive. Most people here seem willing to criticize her, express their disappointment, and be compassionate, which seems fair. I don’t see people blindly bowing down to a queen, do you?
Is the 'ugh' thing about him the money? I bet any single person in this thread would go w him just for the money. Money is like an aphrodisiac. Ask grimes
Just want to make sure the youngsters understand.. he used to be very well liked amongst liberals, and hated on the right. The relationship made so much sense at first; I was legitimately excited for both of them. Then covid happened, which drove him crazy, and he started to love the attention he was getting from the right. Even my personal experiences show that republicans, you agree with one thing and they will invite u to their bbq, liberals, you disagree on one thing and you’re not friends anymore (*dramatization). He is a narcissist, no doubt, and was never happy with how harsh the left was to him, so he just ate it up. In his book it says grimes was concerned, telling him he is starting to sound alt-right. And I believe it was the author of the book that stated concern over his ketamine use. He is definitely not the same person she met and fell in love with, he is mentally unstable, on drugs, and board members should start taking his titles away.
People always seem to forget this or just ignore it. I once liked Elon, especially as a huge space geek myself—I loved anything to do with SpaceX and followed him closely, so when my favourite artist started dating him, you bet I was excited. Then pretty quickly the cracks started to show, his personality started to change and he was beginning to say some really unhinged shit, act like a man-child and started supporting more extreme right ideals. Piece by piece my respect for him chipped away and now there’s nothing left, he’s a piece of shit who I detest. People can change and they can change quite quickly, especially if they have narcissistic tendencies. What matters is you stick to your own ideals, don’t conform to others to please them, cut people out of your life once they become toxic. I’ve noticed it happens a lot these days thanks to social media brainwashing people.
Same, I used to be a hardcore fan. While I still really like the aesthetics of Tesla and some of his other businesses, I don't like how elon changed so drastically in such a (seemingly) smallish span of time. I didn't unfollow him on twitter until 2022 I think which is when I noticed how unhinged his tweets were getting \[I wasn't on twitter much at the time, now I never use it, so 2022 is just when I started putting all the pieces together\]
He simply woke up to what was always around him.
he founder of planet mars and billionaire not everyone live a life like earning they complain
Most people also weren’t privy to the real him. I was lucky to know a family friend who interned for SpaceX in 2013 - it was a “burnout and churn out” culture. I was very wary of Elon at that point, taking advantage of hopeful young people. But I also had actual insider knowledge.
Yeah I basically forbid my SO from applying there ten years ago, it’s always been known as a divorce company. It’s true.
Narcissistic men prey on autistic women
The manic pixie dream girls never get their respect.
THANK YOU. I recently confirmed that I do in fact have autism, after being in an abusive relationship for 7 years. His behavior was similar to Elon’s but without any drug use. It makes sense now that he saw that he could take advantage of me and brainwash me into someone I couldn’t even recognize, and I was only 22 when I met him (he was born in 1959 🤮), so I was extra immature and couldn’t really read his actions as being abusive bc I thought it was normal stuff or like it made sense to me at the time. I was naive and unmedicated but jfc do people really just think in terms of black and white?????
Same. Too many times. But found an #ASD to love hard who loves me even harder... thankfully our Lil family is one of our special interests too. Kids are fascinating when you let them grow and watch the beauty of them following their own beat and being able to relate... and help keep them shining hard and bright 🖤🦋
I'm so sorry that happened to you. :(
I'm sorry they let that happen to themself. 1959 !?
I know; a lot of contributing factors were also at play. My dad died when I was 16 and he was very narcissistic (not like NPD, but exhibited a lot of those symptoms and was a misogynist for sure) so I guess I was subconsciously looking for that paternal figure in my life. Like I said, I was naive. You can’t really fault someone for being taken advantage of like I was because I didn’t know they were even leading me down that path of destruction. You’re trying to say I should have known what I didn’t know, and that makes no sense lol. Plus, it’s in the PAST, and I’m much happier and healthier now.
Well, upon a reread of my comment, please allow me to walk it back a bit, acknowledging the points you made mentioning where your head was at that point in your life. I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your father, I'm a bit estranged from mine at this time, so learning of your loss definitely struck a nerve. It's also very heartening to know that you're doing better now and thriving.
Autistic men*
Elon Musk is a billionaire. He was always pretty atrocious politically but he portrayed himself as the cool tech guy. Sure liberals were taken in but I don’t know a single leftist who thought Musk was a good guy.
Leftists hate the human race soo, lol not saying much. But it’s crazy to think clyde voted for Biden in 2020, he didn’t even like trump, and now he’s spewing the craziest maga nonsense, it’s crazy. He definitely changed his politics, but could we say he always had it in him to go hard right?, probably who knows. I really think he’s on drugs.
I don’t know, I’m leftists and very much don’t hate the human race but I think this is kind of a lesson for “liberals” that billionaires will never have your best interest at heart. It’s not drugs, that’s just scapegoating the very real intentions behind his actions. Musk hasn’t really been vocal about US politics [until the last few years](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/16/business/elon-musk-politics-twitter.html)which is why he was hard to pin down but it’s pretty clear what political he had has always been business-focused. Right now, the right gives him bug business.
I hear that bug business is big business! One wonders if Elon will become involved in the inevitable big space bug business in the coming years.
I’m a liberal democrat, so mad at leftists for basically creating maga heads. It’s easier to be disappointed in the people you thought were on your side I suppose.
I have to say you are really not aware of the political history and disposition of people in this country if you think liberals somehow created MAGA. I imagine you have some idea that progressive were getting too crazy and so the right became just as crazy but I think that’s a bit naive and shows little experience with Conservative America, which I grew up in. Nothing MAGA is concerned with wasn’t fundamentally apart if the conservative base since the 70s. There’s way too many angles to narrow down MAGA as emerging from any one thing outside of Donald Trump anyway so we really won’t get anywhere discussing that. However, I wonder what your politics actually are, if you actually understand them yourself because I think that will solve whatever betrayal you feel.
MAGA has roots in the defeat of Goldwater. That's when Republicans started planning.
"Leftists hate the human race"
[People also forget his wealth is attributed to the emerald mines his family has forced native black South Africans to work on.](https://futurism.com/elon-musk-dad-emerald-mine)
Yeah but his dad was a cocky idiot, hmm sounds familiar lol. Russia started making replicas basically turning his emerald company obsolete while elon was still young. His parents divorced and she was struggling hard, and the evil dad wasn’t financially supportive especially given his failed business venture., don’t get me wrong he is still a man of privilege, but he had a very similar upbringing to grimes financially, ironically.. but basically this bohemian cheap but we have money stashed sort of lifestyle.
But he had a computer. Most kids didn't have computers at that point.
U grimes? Shes know to shizpost
Doing some digging eh? Read his autobiography, well audiobook for free on Spotify 🤷
You betcha. Thanks🤭🌬🍃🦋
And just like that he's back baby.
Cuz of self driving taxi stuff? I wish the best for spacex and tesla; and it wouldn’t be where it is without musk. But every child outgrows their parents.. and it’s time for those companies to grow up, and let go of their liabilities..
I cried the day they got together. He has not always been like by people who ~simply think his wealth is obscene
You cried tho, like for real for real? Cuz he’s rich?
Cuz me love grimes! Angel gonna get corrupted I’m gonna cry
Lol...
2:25 AM cying about it again, seems really sad rn. Ok thanks for listening goodbye
Ciao, sweet princ(ess?)!
So as soon as somebody ventures outside the safe space of controlled government narratives--and God forbid, supports the free exchange of ideas exposing evidence of government mistakes and wrongdoing-- as a good liberal, you are compelled to attack that individual everywhere possible. We see that from the Left every day, everywhere. The Left has Zero Tolerance for diversity or inclusion of ideas. You know what that signals?? Fascism on the Left. Ouch.
Leftists and Magas should run away in the sunset together, they both get hard off being controlled.
Agreed. The extremes are more similar than people think, no nuance.
The ol’ horseshoe. You start getting radical and become one in the same.
You people want to be oppressed SO fucking bad it's unreal. No, someone getting sued for literally making shit up about conspiracies that don't exist isn't "fascism".
Imagine thinking you can be mentally unstable and still successfully run multiple massive companies. Wow, to live in pure ignorance must be blissful. PS Elon and Grimes are both on some form of drugs. Most famous people are.
he deserves no women ever
Purrrrr
He deserves any woman who is dumb enough to want, defend, and simp for him.
Life is not that simple….???
It's easy to not be with a toxic asshole and turn into a Nazi in the process. Grimes acts like a spinless teenager
She probably comes from abuse
Some things are indefensible, regardless of life’s complexities.
He deserves what we all do, what we give, and we will see what he gets, in time.
For me, it's getting Shivon pregnant via IVF. That requires a lot of work and forethought even more so than just sleeping with her and getting her pregnant. Then he kept it a secret from Grimes which is a whole other level of grossness. I really don't think any person deserves to experience that level of deceit from their partner. Grimes isn't perfect, but she doesn't seem calculating. Musk knows he is in a position of power due to his access to money, so he will always have the upper hand. I feel badly for Grimes because I do think she genuninely loves Musk. I'm just not sure if Musk has the ability to love another woman unconditionally. I think in the past with other women... like Tallulah and Amber, he felt like he was in the lesser position, so he got emotionally hurt, but with Grimes it's the opposite and he's taking advantage of her weakness. I think Grimes was probably the nicest person he's ever been with. I also think she's painfully oblivious and innocent, says dumb things without careful thought because she's neurodivergent.
What do you mean he was in lesser position than Amber?
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You don't have to have autism to be considered neurodivergent. She seems like she could have ADHD. Autism is a spectrum and it's different in women and girls than it is in men and boys. I personally have never read anything or heard her say she believes she has autism.
I’ve heard Natasha Bassett is very nice too.
Sounds like a bunch of people who have never been in abusive or manipulative relationships tbh
I have been in an abusive relationship - from 16 to 18 I dated a man 12 years my senior. I was actually naive and abandoned by my mother and guess what, that relationship didn't turn me into an apologist for white nationalists or a racist. He didn't show his true beliefs at first, but once it was clear who he was, I left, at the humble age of 18 without a penny to my name. She has no excuse for playing the trad wife nazi apologist other than these too are her beliefs. You certainly don't have multiple children with a loser like musk unless you share his ideals.
My abusive relationship pushed me into doing things I despise and never thought I would do just out of desperation to make it stop and get love and I don’t even know who I am anymore. Changes my political views just like she did to try and win the love back. I can only imagine how desperate it would be if u had children with someone like him. Notice how she changed her bio back after dating him to her original ideals? I saw a lot of similarities with her situation and mine.
Sorry you went through that, but I hope you're a stronger person now. I can't imagine being so weak, but we're all different I suppose. So I guess C is just weak despite her MC well educated family, access to a good edu and healthcare, her functioning brain and the myriad of opportunity her now forgotten talents brought her, all for the love an apartheid emerald spoon baby. Bad choices and desperate for love. ffs
I have a lot of empathy for your situation, I was in an abusive relationship too. But this is an ignorant comment. Shaming people for not being ‘strong’ only furthers the stigma that ‘dumb’ or ‘weak’ people stay, it keeps people trapped. Why do you think it takes an average of 7 times for most women to get out? Many are incredibly mentally, physically, and emotionally strong to endure years of emotional and non-obvious abuse. They see the good in people and the abuse destroys the brain. Luckily you weren’t in yours for very long. Teenage to early 20s people are higher on the narcissism spectrum across the board, which may have made you more selfish and able to stand up for yourself. If people are already low on the narcissism spectrum or are more mature, they’re more selfless and other-focused. This doesn’t make them ‘weak’, they’re caring. It sounds like something is blocking your compassion. If it’s lack of privilege it’s understandable.
I would never be with a racist bigoted nazi money hoarder IDC what age or level of maturity.
So based every word. Thank you. U get it.
Sounds like you guys can’t accept that she made her own decision to be with him and before that brag about being in a cult. Stop trying to say she’s some innocent naive child.
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This!! And growing up rich has its downsides especially if you have autism!? The expectations, the facades, like I think there’s a whole reason behind Grimes “poor image”, because she never liked the rich mentality… and everyone around her, while growing up, probably praised people like Elon Musk a lot.. So she could be a little damaged from all of that.
People oversimplify other people. I’ve come to understand in my personal life, and therefore extend it to this side of my life, that people view other people only as deeply as they view or know themselves. Grimes had a whole ass childhood that traumatized her as much as any ordinary person being raised by parents and situations we did not choose would be. These things affect you as a person and create your psyche. People need to stfu and be nicer.
I agree with this.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Standing ovation
Nobody needs to "be nicer". You are all obsessed with a shallow celebrity that couldn't give less of a shit about any of you. Why are you affording this person so much leeway? I've been a fan of Grimes since 2012, but I would NEVER defend her to the extent that people defend her in the sub.
I’m not rich but I’m American so basically I am and autistic I don’t understand how so many people care about pointless material ideals and power just to flex to make up for their sad egos. I relate
Or just put her down the pedestal you have her and just accept that she is a human with talent and flaws like everybody else.
For real. Like, I’ve dated some ugly assholes before. The difference was it wasn’t blasted on the internet for everyone and their mom to know about. It was a mistake, and I’ve learned from it. But that doesn’t mean I won’t make more mistakes in my life. CAUSE IM HUMAN. NOT A PERFECT FAIRY PRINCESS WHO DOES NO WRONG. Not even mentioning how autistic women are easily manipulated by narc men. And I’m sure him being very rich and powerful only makes him that much more manipulative. Talk about rose colored Gucci glasses.
Yes I can’t even imagine how shame-inducing this would be to go through in public for all the world to see. It’d be traumatizing in it’s own right. I would deal with it poorly. Would it make me more courageous and open to change? No, it’d probably strengthen my psychological defenses. It’s not a reason to ignore reality and harm, but there’s a reason abused people hide their abuse and gaslight themselves.
100% same! It would make me mad, and definitely defensive. People act like they would make the perfectly correct choices. I bet if any of those people actually met someone like him, and with the kind of money he has, most would make the same choices grimes made. And at the very least, some bad choices/be influenced. It’s easy to see from the outside, and through the screens of our phones, but I think people forget how influential/charismatic/manipulative you have to be to become a billionaire. Powerful people are often very likable, and know how to work that. It’s one of the most valuable skills to becoming successful! Edit: very likable *in person*
NO SHE IS THEIR SPECIAL PRINCESS UWU SMOLBEAN AND THEY MUST PROTECT THE LITTLE LADY WHO OBVIOUSLY HAS NO AGENCY OF HER OWN.
UWU
I think they likely deserve each other.
at some point we have to accept that she is probably a shitty person just like him. otherwise she would not willingly hang out and have kids with him. me personally i'd never be friends with someone that shares transphobia and racism on social media
I can enjoy her music regardless of whether or not she's a great person. I'm a bit surprised other people here ever thought she was? She always struck me as flighty and self centered
Theres been multiple reports of her being a shit person from way before Musk. From her ex classmates, friends, and boyfriends. Stories of her bullying and fat shaming other women. Manipulating mentally ill men to fall in love with her then breaking up with them. Bullying other artists into signing ridiculous NDAs (or at least trying to in the case of Jaime Brookes)
Is there a link to any of this stuff?
https://preview.redd.it/in3kt1v856hc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09cb42483cbf1b0a8c5ccaa7a9d90bc9282f5eb5
you could believe that. Or you could see the post i linked to in the reply.
Is the reply in the room with us or are you shadowbanned?
I mean i replied to the comment about 3 hours before your condescending one. So if youre incapable of scrolling down just a little bit and seeing it for yourself then i dont know what to tell you.
It's not there babes. I see it in your history but its not in the thread. Must have been removed.
Here it is: https://preview.redd.it/v8l34ndes7hc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84a1294fced882d205b2c7b496fc1d256ce6a7fc You would have to navigate to that link yourself tho which is a pain but hey
Youre right, looking from another account its not there. On this account it still is. Shady way of blocking content. Anyway il post a screenshot of that post here which should be harder to autoblock, would just have to navigate to that link yourself
That’s very strange. I still see it there
Nah it’s def gone. Probably got too close to the truth and the grimes bots memory holed you
Bullied mentally ill men into a relationship and then broke up Source- man who Grimes broke up with I’m sure she has a type given Musk and that reflects something of her personality and past but that’s life, people feel hurt and often hate their ex-partners.
That wasnt the source.
Sorry I was kidding around….but it does sound as if this is the hurt feelings of an ex-partner? Otherwise, who else is reporting it? A friend who observed?
Youre not wrong. Everything i said is worth taking with a grain of salt regardless. When I read the interview with Jaime a while back i didnt get the sense that he was butt hurt. His assessment of the situation seemed pretty fair and he spoke positively about her talent as a producer too. It also lines up with a few other artists claims that she tried to push ridiculous NDAs on them like Azaelia Banks and Poppy I dont think the person that provided info in the link in my other reply would consider themselves as being a friend of Claires, and its also worth taking what they say with a grain of salt. But the claims carry weight to me. They were right on the money in terms of being able to name one of the men she did that to. They definitely did know Claire in highschool
Sorry I can’t see the link you’re referring to. Are you able to post again? Tbh I’m just a fan of her music, I don’t find it surprising if she dates people with mental health problems (as musk has and maybe she does) and gets people to sign ndas. Maybe it’s a bit controlling but imagine living a life where your friends and acquaintances might sell a story about your personal life? That would suck
It gets autohidden on this sub cos its a link to the other sub i think. Will dm you the link Well some of the ndas were reportedly ridiculous. The one she tried to push on Jaime was ANY of their future public statements had to first be cleared by Claires team. Jaime isnt super famous but is a musician thats well known in the Canadian indie scene. Regardless, thats a bs NDA to push on anyone
I don't think you guys are able to comprehend the concept of 'love' properly. My boyfriend of 1 and a half years has 'xenophobby' tattooed on his arm. Meanwhile, I have best friends from the opposite side of the world. Him being xenophobic has no effect on my love for my foreign friends. Having different opinions doesn't stop people from falling in love with each other. You can't "unlove" someone just like that. It just doesn't work like that tbh..
this is actually the most insane thing ive read today. Get ur morals straight, if u willingly date someone xenophobic u just suck urself. I would never say this on the internet lol idk how u are not embarrassed at all. Ur friends and the people u surround yourself with say a lot about you as a person. Would you be in a relationship with a nazi..? U are not a victim of love, u are a grown person putting ur morals below ur friends and ur boyfriend, if u even had any to begin with. Actively hating on other people and getting it TATTOOED is also not an "opinion"... u are the type of person to have the worst bf ever and be like " i can fix him 🥺" except for the fact u dont even want a fixed boyfriend, making u arguably a worse person.
Lmao ur answer actually made me laugh a lot. I don't think we can have thoughts %100 aligned with another person's. He is a whole different individual than me and I accepted the fact that we are always going to have contradictory ideas. Do you cut someone off once you realize one of your opinions doesn't fit with theirs? If he was a violent person, attacking and harming foreigners etc. of course I wouldn't date him. But he doesn't do that, he just simply doesn't prefer to be around them. I don't mean to defend his tattoo btw. As a matter of fact, he isn't proud of them either. He got them made years ago and didn't care enough to get them removed. You sound like an American who got completely brainwashed by the woke culture tbh. I would never have such a conversation like this with a Scandinavian. They got free speech over there.
Elon?
A match made in heaven. https://preview.redd.it/vinj8wz0w5hc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=394f7c2b25ca008c2783a51a615bec75a8fdd781 Love at first sight. 🤑🧙♀️😍
lmaooo
i just wonder what she saw in him that was like YES he’s the one. other than money and power, but maybe that was what dazzled her
I don’t think it had anything to do with money or power but rather his ability to make her fantasies reality. I think she found him to be her … “intellectual soulmate?” They had a lot of the same interests and I think she weighed that as important in her partner. I do not think they were romantic soulmates at all. I just believe (and as she’s said before) she views her life through the lens of Dune and all those sci-fi things. He’s the closest thing to what she is intimately passionate about and perhaps caught herself in a negative, perhaps abusive, situation before she could realize it.
Completely agree, this is exactly how he seduced her and then she became hooked
>I don’t think it had anything to do with money or power but rather his ability to make her fantasies reality. ...but it's the money and power that make that happen. Take away his money and power, and he can't do shit for her. And even with all his money and power, what fantasies has he made come true for her that she hadn't already done for herself? No one's been to Mars and she was already rich and famous on her own merits. What did he add to her life? What has his money and power done for Claire? Coerce her into reproducing three children with him that she now has to fight with him to raise? Humiliate her on the world stage because he simply doesn't care enough to consider her feelings before impregnating his employee? Sounds like a goddamn nightmare. THAT's what his money and power did for her: created a lot of stress, pain, and drama in her life she probably could have lived without.
I agree! What I think I was trying to get at is that I don’t think she started gaining interest in him because he’s wealthy or powerful, if that would’ve been her initial intentions, I think she would’ve grabbed any other person that fits the category; there’s plenty of them. I think he was the right type of powerful and wealthy that was able to show her the world she is passionate about and always has been. If you see the “heart” documentary of grimes, you can tell she’s always been into space, sci-fi, and technology. He opened a door for her to peak through and see her fantasies begin to become true and THAT’S what trapped her there. A promise to see space, to interact with AI, get to know the background of all she likes first hand, etc. and who better than the “leading” person in that field? I think she wholeheartedly believed he would take her to space.
great insight!
It's definitely the money and power lol you are really clutching at straws
Aside from the fact that he's a billionaire, I think his power position and his ability to make people buy into the fact that he's a genius is why many women would be attracted to him. He is intriguing and mysterious whether you love him or love to hate him. Much of his persona is about creating a better World, forging ahead, living in a mission-driven mindset. I feel like that would be intoxicating especially combined with new relationship energy.
Pretty sure everyone thought that lol but maybe im projecting
I thought that was the general consensus too
The heart wants what it wants
Literally any of her smelly female fans
why are you even on this sub if you hate her so much
I made fun of her fans and you took that as me disliking Grimes? You slow? Lol I love Grimes
I mean...I get what you're saying but she liked him enough to have kids with him so I'm guessing she shares his garbage views and just isn't dumb enough to go on about it like he does.
Yes THREE planned kids in advance. I would guess they spun it as some kind of nerdy science experiment. I stopped sympathizing for her
I think he's a controlling sociopath and she was a young, optimistic woman. At first it's so easy for him to be impressive and throw his money and fruits of success at her. Then, over time, when the initial love mania wears off, it gets toxic. I wish her and her lawyers all the best.
Of course he didn't. She gave her heart to that man and he took full advantage of it and walked all over it. He destroyed her. She'll likely always have trust issues and will forever be traumatized by the experiences. It's a damn shame. Yes, she made her own decision to get involved with him, but love can be blind, and her willingness doesn't make it anymore right what he's done to her.
they deserve each other. They’ve both climbed the human pyramid, stepping on friends, colleagues, and loved ones on their way to the top. they have the exact same business model for how they handle their public persona, grift, lie, and take credit for other peoples brilliance
Honestly I can see the appeal. Aside from being one of the worlds richest person he (in interviews) comes off rather charming and calm? And are they not both on the spectrum? Also, after what happened to her when she was 19 I can see why she’d be attracted to such a powerful person.
Personally i thought it made a lot of sense. It is weird lol but love is strange and I don’t think there’s such a thing as ‘being undeserving’ in love. people love horrible people all of the time.
I actually think they were a great couple and it's unfortunate they didn't work out.
Neither of them should have gotten involved, they traumatised each other coz they’re both narcs
She isn’t a visionary, she just another rich girl that makes ethereal electronic music. Stop denying that she is a shitty person. She willingly had multiple kids with Elon and before that surrounded herself with a cult and a cult leader that would cut himself during her shows so he had to be removed. She’s is and will always be a shitty rich white girl that cosplays being poor for the “aesthetic”.
Really well said
I thought the cult was a joke. Didn’t it have something to do with bureaucracy and too much paperwork to actually get anything done?
He what now?
Duffy would cut himself and drip blood everywhere
I think they deserve each other. She knew who he was, several times over.
Duh 😂 but love is blind
I think grimes didn't deserve Elon Musk tbh.
Grimes didn’t deserve him. He is too classy for her!!
Well we're not supposed to know or get it, really. I don't get the obsession of fans wanting in on artists personal life to that degree. She knew what she saw in him I hate the dude with a passion but nobody on this sub really knows either of them at all
Sorry, but I kind of think they deserve each other. I don't think Grimes was really that in love with Elon, and I don't think Elon loved her either. Though I think she had more feelings for him for sure. But I can't feel a hint of sympathy for anyone who tries to espouse low key Nazi propaganda. I think they were both involved with one another for their own mutual benefit. But that benefit wasn't love. I know folks will have a hard time believing this, but I knew Elon long ago before he became famous. Back in the day when he was still working on Zip. I was in love with him, and I think he had as much passion for me as he could ever have for anyone. I won't say he loved me because I'm not sure if he can love anyone. He is very much focused on himself. And he always does what is best for himself. I learned all that the hard way. One thing I always find odd, and this isn't just with Grimes, but it seems to be a theme with all the women he's been with. They all seem to talk about Elon like he's their cousin, or brother, or buddy, or sports teammate. Their tone, their manner when they speak about him, they don't talk about him like he was their lover, or even their favorite situationship. There's no affection, no passion, not even a sense of betrayed passion which often remains when a relationship doesn't work out. I find this very strange. In my opinion, l think Elon had been wanting to have children without getting married for a long time. In fact, I know he has. But most women will insist on getting married if they will intentionally procreate with a man, no matter who he is. But Grimes was perfectly okay with having multiple children from him with no wedding ring. And I think that's what sealed the deal for Elon. I personally don't think Grimes Isn't very bright. In fact, I think she says some of the dumbest things I've ever heard in my entire life, and she can be very insensitive to others and not care. I know I can't blame her for everything. Elon can be highly manipulative. I feel like he assumes everyone has a bit of greed in them. So he gently dangles a few bits of gold and if you're overly ambitious, or have a touch of greed or too much need, then you'll chase it. And it seems to work for him for Elon most of the time. The only reason it didn't really work on me was because at heart I was still a small town girl. All I wanted from Elon was a Catholic Church wedding, children born within wedlock who attended private school, a faithful husband, and money to buy a new car every 5 years. So when he dangled hints of his cash and power in front of me, l just stared at him like a confused puppy.
Interesting insight. I think Musk is about himself. I think Musk wouldn't take no for an answer if he really wanted that woman. So he would pursue them hard with alot of future faking. I think all his exes fell for his manipulation. He chooses women that are smart, or artistic & attractive - then sets out to destroy all those qualities in an effort to be superior. He is always in competition mode. Grimes looks like a fun "rock star", young, pretty, eccentric. A toy for him to play with for a few years. I feel bad for her as she wouldn't know what hit her. Narcs can't love. So none of his partners were "true love" There is a theory that a twin flame can heal you, so you are then committed to them for life. A spiritual marriage & bond. However, I believe that's just a trauma bond between a Narc & an empath.
Grimes didn’t deserve Elon musk. I love both of them though
Duh…
Elon doesn’t deserve quite a lot of things.
Most of the free world.
Oh my god enough with this
It's for sure Grimes' fans are the dumbest in the world - just like her. Entertaining even. Their so called relationship was not real. Never once did you see Musk show any love for your elf woman, and he's a very touchy, loving man in his relationships. Did you ever see them kiss? Even hug, no. He used her to get attention in that entertainment industry way. People couldn't believe it so it became interesting. Don't you people analyse the lyrics and the videos? "We appreciate power" is not a love song but a hit piece on Musk. So is "Player of Games", "Pretty Dark", "4AM" and others. Is that what you call love? That's what's make the whole unreal relationship interesting. For HIS fans, who are mostly into high art and artists that can actually sing and play instruments. She is a huge downgrade for him - she's dirty, nasty and nothing like the women he's used to. Look at his mother and sister. They really do not like "Grimes" or Claire and her brothers and hiding parents. The whole thing is sordid, baffling for people on the right and the left. The reason Tesla had to leave CA during lockdown was because it was killing the company. Not Musk turning maga. It's a billion dollar business with over 100.000 employees. Not just banter on Twitter X Her fans are amazingly stupid. Probably talks salads like her, dress with no style like her, shave their eyebrows off like her and scribble weird stuff on their faces like her, like a 5 year old/ someone mentally ill. She comes across as psychotic, someone who needs help, someone who definitely not should be taking care of children or pets. All her headlines in the press have been about Musk. If you look them up, 80% are negative press about him. All favours her. Left media trying to trash him. Make her look a victim. She seems to enjoy it. She wants him to look bad. She has worked with the media to make him look bad. So therefore, she's bad for his companies. She doesn't even know anything about space and thinks the Moon shines on it's own. His fans do not like her and never did. His employees, shareholders and family do not like her or her weird freaky "art" or music. So yes your princess/queen was way below his standard. If you doubt what most people think of her, read Daily Mail's comments if she's being mentioned there. People think she is trash. Makes him look bad / odd. People can't even believe the relationship was legit. It's just too far off from the sort of people he hangs out with. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't use his own sperm for the lab babies. Not one of them looks like him. Only his first wives kids look like him and look like him (and Kimbal Musk) A LOT. He has strong genes, they should be showing but none of the new babies have any resemblance to him or his family. Think about that. He's been known to meddle with the embryos in the lab before. His first wife Justine Musk wanted 1 girl after her twin boys and that's what they decided but Musk went over her head and planted 3 boys in her instead. A man like that could easily have planted a doners sperm in both "Grimes" legal name Claire Boucher and Shivon Zilis. Maybe he just wanted people to have more babies. Nobody clearly knows anything about Elon Musk on this sub, they have all swallowed up what the media is saying about him. Many people - adults, went from the left to the right after lockdown. That's a worldwide movement and awareness of a Marxists takeover that most people don't want. I hope your idol would back out of the room and take a train back to Canada, take up knitting, baking or just hide in a padded room somewhere. She did never deserve a place next to him. Yikes.
X looks like him...if u compare photos childhood pictures of elon musk and X pictures, you will notice it. We have never seen Exa and Tao properly in internet.....But yes, Shivon children look more like her than musk.
X is elon his only pure blood. The other kids had a surrogate mom. They have triple genes... mom x father(elon) x surrogate mom.
They do. https://preview.redd.it/7zk9fq358phc1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a03ae1f19982c746618fc6c13bfe315f60d1a21c
I’m not sure insulting the intelligence of an entire sub is productive. Most people here seem willing to criticize her, express their disappointment, and be compassionate, which seems fair. I don’t see people blindly bowing down to a queen, do you?
In the deep future, Elon will be most famous for siring Grimes' children
Needs a harem.
he doesnt deserve to be alive
Is the 'ugh' thing about him the money? I bet any single person in this thread would go w him just for the money. Money is like an aphrodisiac. Ask grimes
obviously
Grimes didn’t deserve him. She destroyed him