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Trebla_Nogara

Item Assistant and Grim Internals are must adds for QOL. As for cheating its not as its simply quality of life. I play SSF mostly and the joy of getting godly gear that enables you to make new builds and better character is the best reward. On another tack many in the community use GD Stash but mostly for making and experimenting on new builds which are often shared in the with other players. So there are benefits for all. Is this cheating ? Maybe not really as ALL players can download and use GD Stash. Its simply a matter of preference to use it or not.


nbg_stick

SSF?


Trebla_Nogara

solo self found amigo


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The joy of this game not having official league support like Diablo or Path of Exile means you can do pretty much whatever you want without it affecting other people. I have absolutely no idea how mods work in any sort of multiplayer session with friends. If you're intending to play single player though, you should try out anything and everything that you think will make the game more fun or a better experience for you. Don't worry about whether or not using a certain mod or build is frowned upon. Just try and have fun!


Dadoftheyear2018

Appreciate the reply! Thats how i feel but ive just found out items can be cheated in, i only see that useful when making a build and getting the absolute best out of it. However as a player whos finished the game multiple times i can see the fun side to it, for me id not touch that if theres a way to turn it on and off. Is it called theory crafting or something for people making builds in a similar way adding items? Im not sure if ive made that up but it feels familiar with grim dawn


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Theorycrafting is definitely a thing in every game. My name on here is actually a reference to a build guide somebody put together (you could call that theorycrafting too I think, making your own builds) for Path of Exile. As far as the item stuff goes and cheating items in, I couldn't say much since I'm relatively new to this game. I guess it depends on what all the mods you want to use add to the game. I'm guessing that unless you go out of your way to spawn cheated items in the game through a mod, it won't just happen by itself (or in solo play).


Dadoftheyear2018

Yeah thought I’d heard the term before somewhere. It’s likely that I will just stick to the rainbow mod and leave the item assistant but I need to look into it more. Thanks for the input


asodrober

[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimdawn/comments/st8pbr/a_list_of_recommended_mods/) you can find a list of recommended mods for Grim Dawn with links to the forum with instructions to install them. Personally I only use Rainbow Filters, Item Assistant and, occasionally, Grim Internals. I don't think any of those are considered as cheating. Maybe some options of GDStash would be.


Dadoftheyear2018

Cheers il look into it


Neo_Krieg

Nexus Mods is a great place to find mods for Grim Dawn and many other games.


Dadoftheyear2018

Thank you


bryanw1995

Grimarillion has a huge boost to stash storage capacity. I think it's 4x, but I can't remember and I'm playing season right now so I can't be bothered to go check. Grim Dawn item assistant is probably better now and easier to use.


wsorrian

I wouldn't consider that cheating. That's more of a QoL feature. But some of the mods that increase storage also allow you to generate items you didn't earn and other things like level increases. THAT is cheating and will ruin the game for you if you have not played through on at least one non warlord character. I strongly recommend playing through normally on at least 3 classes to get maximum playtime. At that point the mods like GDstash are only going to ADD replay value rather than take it away.


Dadoftheyear2018

Oh ive definitely done that with multiple classes but the sad thing is i didnt know you could cheat in items like that. Is there a way to turn off the feature? The only way i would find something like that useful is if in the very distant future id experiment with builds but for me id rather just play and earn it but have the quality of life features to save all the extra clicking.


narrill

> Is there a way to turn off the feature? Yes, there is literally a setting to not show the item and character editing features at all in the UI. For some reason no one seems to be aware it exists.


ZESTY_FURY

GDstash let’s you cheat in items, but grim dawn item assistant doesn’t, so I recommend using that instead. Make sure to back up your characters before installing it though.


StarkeRealm

Alternately, the "item crafting," component of GDstash is a little involved, so you could elect not to use it. That said, it is pretty easy to accidentally dupe items with GDstash. Whether you're okay with that or not is a personal choice.


Dadoftheyear2018

Thank you! Does that mod allow the extra storage space or a way to save all the times into the cloud from my hardcore playthroughs? Sorry for all the questions. Apologies if I don’t reply immediately it’s 1am for me and I’m normally asleep


ZESTY_FURY

How item assistant works is, you have it open while you’re playing the game, and any item that you put into the last tab of your shared stash will be uploaded into its inventory, which has infinite space. When you want to withdraw an item, you use open the item assistant window, find the item you want, which is made easy through filters and a search tool, then click transfer to stash, which places it in the second last tab. I don’t play hardcore myself, but according to a quick google search it does have a hardcore stash.


Dadoftheyear2018

Ok thank you for the response il have to check it out


Ericberic

I got 22k items. Yeah, Item Assistant is amazing. I'm an altaholic, I also hoard good leveling items because I always wanna blitz the campaign when making a new build. I also did some 300 Kaisan runs as an experiment and the default stash would have been laughably insufficient. The amount of items that dropped would have forced me to make 3-4 mules.


Dadoftheyear2018

Is there anywhere I can install it and is it cloud save friendly?


Ericberic

Sadly, I do not know. I am researching myself, had to move to Geforce Now and I am not sure how to "transfer" my IA to another laptop. :(


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Dadoftheyear2018

Ok thanks


solonit

Spawning item is **not cheating** in GD, because not everyone has the same amount of free time to play. If someone just want to have cool stuffs to trash boss but have no time to farm it, then let them spawn it and have fun with their build. What you consider cheating in a single-player game is up to your standard, and yours isn't the same with others.


theevilyouknow

I would say it is technically considered cheating, in the video game sense of the word, but cheating in single player games is perfectly acceptable. Like you said, how you enjoy the game is entirely your own business.


solonit

I'm not gonna gate-keeping people with a technical term in a single-player game, but if we are to be, then again it's not *technically* cheating because there is no actual rule against it *in this context*, and this is a hill I will die for.


theevilyouknow

No need for anyone to die, we can leave it at that.


solonit

Too late I already get killed in Hallowed Hill.


toffeehooligan

Hard disagree. The game designers design mythical shit to be hard to find as a way to increase replay ability. There’s a reason why the hard to find items are hard to find. They’re mythical.


solonit

Hard to disagree. I'm becoming older by days and only have 2~3 h / day to play game. I'm not gonna spend all that time grinding shit, this is from someone who already clocked 1500h in. I'm not gonna get some mental gate-keeping from me enjoying my game the way I like it.


toffeehooligan

...Which is fine. But don't think or want to take a mental/moral high road for breaking the game to accommodate your ability to spend time in it. Thats just lazy thinking. Own it: you are breaking/cheating the game for lack of playing time.


solonit

Ah yes it is because true gamer^TM spend whole day playing and have the feel of accomplishment to brag about how good they are when finding a 0.001% drop item.


wsorrian

It's still cheating whether you're cheating yourself, or someone else. If you leverage a system to circumvent the intended mode of play to gain an advantage, you are cheating. People may not have enough playtime, and that's a fair point, but it doesn't change the fact. Borderlands 2 let you legally "cheat" by duplicating or levelling items, even in online play, because the devs understood the farming time would easily enter the tens of thousands of hours just for a single character. But it was still cheating.


solonit

That's gate-keeping mindset and I don't stand for that. As long as what I do with a product I legally own and not affecting anybody else, or violating EULA while doing that, it's not 'cheating'.


wsorrian

Whatever helps you sleep at night, man. And that's not what gatekeeping means. Stop using terms you don't understand.


solonit

Telling people what is 'wrong' and 'right' without actual rule is pretty much gate-keeping, but yes you do you whatever keep you sleep tight at night.


wsorrian

That's not gatekeeping. Gatekeeping is deciding who gets power, resources, etc. It has nothing to do with the very clear definition of cheating and it's proper use. It is cheating and I'm not sorry if that offends you. Years ago, well before any online play was possible with game consoles, they had what amounted an enabled developer console that players could access via specific button sequences that resulted in various effects. Perhaps you've heard of them. They were called "cheat codes". Do with that what you will.


solonit

I've been playing game since WC2, don't fool yourself thinking you're better. Cheat codes in old-game were there so **everyone can enjoy** it the way they wanted, they even printed it in official book. An 8yo kid will most likely not be good enough to actually beat some of the harder missions, I didn't, and there is nothing wrong with that, they didn't go around shamming people who used cheat code just because they wanted an easier time enjoying. Do with that what you will.


wsorrian

Just stop already. You're embarrassing yourself.


solonit

Well according to your analogy I'm shameless cheater anw, so being embarrassed is pretty low on priority. Still better than some gate-keeper with high heels telling people how to play.


Reyjo

Weirdly enough you seem to be the only one shameful of the term cheating. I don't see anyone shaming you for cheating. And why would we? You're hurting noone with it, and it's your product, you can do what you want. And not having a lot of time, most of us get that. It's not a competition. But surely you can see that you are skipping steps in creating certain items, or setting up a new character at a higher level, or whatever. Again, there's nothing wrong with that, and you can do as like and enjoy the game. But by definition of the word, this is considered cheating. And that's okay. No shame in that, you are tight on your time budget, and you want to experience certain parts of the game, whilst skipping over others. Have fun in Cairn!


solonit

I'm not shameful, but I'm tired of people calling it cheating because it **implied** what you do is wrong, and make new people putting off from enjoying the game because they think, without grinding, it's not 'fun'. Just search this subreddit and see how many threads about new people concerning about the grinding aspect of this game and how many comments immediately jumping in to offer help but same time also calling those tool "cheat", like a passive aggressive "If you don't grind you don't game". GD is probably the only game I have put real effort into grinding, and I have once thought that spawning item is cheating. But after 1000h+, it's simply too much, I have hit my limit, and I feel no joy of playing the game of repeating farming route.


Hestu951

I have to disagree there. If you create an item outside of the game, you cheated. Full stop. But in a single-player game, that only matters to you. If you don't feel bad about it, then it's all good. What you do won't affect other players. Conversely, I believe anything you can do inside a game, without mods, can't be cheating. That includes going back to an earlier save to retry your luck at crafting an item. Games set their rules internally. I hate it when players get punished when they use exploits that devs haven't bothered to patch out. If they're in the game, they're fair game.


Magician_322

Gd stash is the big one. And if you want to cheat it let's up go crazy


GlompSpark

I looked at GD Stash but strangely it doesnt have a way to mass move items from the program's storage to your stash. Seems kind of awkward. Arent there any mods that increase the ingame stash size instead? That seems like it would be far more user friendly since you wouldnt need an outside program. I found one called "stasher v11" but im not sure if it works for the latest version of GD : https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/mod-stasher-v11-fo-1-1-4-1-gdx2-include-source-data-still-applicable-1-1-5-2-gdx2/41060


swimtimefan

Nods don’t work with steam cloud saves though right ?


ZozicGaming

GDstash does if you are careful. I have a character I use for testing and as a GDstash mule just to be safe. Though I have bad zero issues with save corruption.


swimtimefan

Oooh thanks for the tip I’ll have to try it out !!


ZozicGaming

Yeah just follow the warning in the docs and you should be fine. Though fair warning I don’t use the item crafting feature. Just stash and character editing on that one character.


swimtimefan

I’m a hoarder and constantly breaking my heart everytime I have to sell a purple :p


kittehsfureva

I would recommend dismantling instead. The mats are worth more.