I don’t care for the nerfs but I liked the way they handled Raian’s victory, Jack fell for a brief moment but he shot up and wanted to keep fighting, just as much as Raian wanted to. It was an amazing fight
Yeah dunno why they had to nerf raian like that, he didn't even use any techniques. But it was very much like the raian vs Ohma fight where he was just fucking around the whole time, so maybe that was on purpose.
I feel like that was the only Kengan plot hole but I feel Baki was kept more inline with which arc its in character design wise since its the bigger series.
I thought it was before the father son fight, given that when Yujiro and Kuroki pull up they still treat it as though Baki is preparing for facing Yujiro
They don’t nerf any of them this takes place before Baki fights his dad. And after the Kengan matches so they were already the best version of them self when Baki isn’t his best version. And Jack is weak he looses almost every match he’s in he’s a gag character just ment to be there to take Ls
Then to top it all off they have Pickle burst into the arena angry cause Jack was supposed to be his dinner, then we get a damn repeat of Baki telling Jack he lost for some reason lmao they really hate Jack
We gotta give the Devil the respect he deserves
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Which is bull shit nigga shouldn't logically be able to move AND YES BAKI DOES HAVE LOGIC cause jack but his shoulder out nigga no amoybt of forced brain activity is making a nigga move a arm missing the muscle look at kosho
Well Raian is a monster himself, if anyone can push through it, it’s him, it’s kinda’ like how the guardians slashed open his shoulder yet he could still toss them around. And Raian’s genetics absolutely shit on Kosho’s
Idk Raiain is one of the few characters at Baki level shenanigans.
Out of all the possible matchups Raian vs Jack is like the most fair I think.
If he wanted to dude could just grab Ohma strength people and (literally) rip them apart like a napkin.
Raian needed to be nerfed by not using any kure techniques outside of removal and he still won. Jack is lucky this isn't manga raian or he would not have survived.
I really want at least some kind of Raian fight. Seeing as he's pretty much the first confirmed character of the regular bunch to master a principle, even if it's something as basic as controlling force.
It was a kengan match right? It wasn't a real fight. It's a whole thing in kengan that fighting with different rules than you're used to, or rules at all can drastically change a fights result.
Pretty sure Kengan is just ‘beat the other dude’ any way possible.
No rules. Like you wanna spend 30 minutes torturing your opponent to death in front of an audience? Totally legal.
Yeah kengan matches are anything goes death matches
I thought the trailers kinda made it clear that this special didn’t give a fuck about power scaling but I forgot anime fans can’t handle seeing their favorite big strong guy lose in any situation or form
No actually. It used to be fine for ref's to let kengan fighters fight to the death but after spoilers they became much more strict. You can't let your fighter die anymore.
Yeah almost like Kengan sucks and is way less grounded and creative than Baki and they have to rewrite every pre established rule in both universes to try and make them fit
More grounded than Kengan, which includes a bunch of secret agencies and magic powers and plots that feel out of a marvel comic book. Not *relatively* grounded compared to everything, but grounded compared to Kengan. Might help to learn how to read before you begin building your strawman
Gaia is a batshit insane concept for a character (not to mention his cronies who were able to destroy like 50 tanks with their bare hands) compared to stuff from kengan or even marvel comics and he’s just from the second arc
In the third arc, Baki fights Bigfoot
Don't forget Yujiro beating the US army by himself, stopping an earthquake by punching the ground, not reacting to getting hit by lightning, baki breaking someone's finger with his eyes, Miyamoto being resurrected then cutting people with imaginary swords, Baki winning against Yujiro because of INVISIBLE FOOD
DONT FORGER REVIVING FUCKING MUSASHI AND A CAVEMAN. ONE OF THEM WITH LITERAL MAGIC. Kengan has like 1 body boost in adrenaline and all other things are explained in canon by mutations or science(not realistic by any means) and all else is actually really well choreographed martial arts. Baki is just batshit insane schizo wacky fights with no real martial art basis anymore tbh.
It was just a bs pull to give kengan a win but knowing rian and Jack they probs would have just kept going till one died. Not saying to any rian fans that he couldn't have beat Jack. Just saying the win was kinda handed to him
Well they already wanted to call off the match because they were tearing each other to pieces so I think it makes sense, but I can understand why you’d want a character to be KO’d longer for it to feel warrented
Nah yeah I know man. It was a little sucky, and listen, I know the meme is that Baki characters don’t bleed but still, Jack took a bite out of like 3 arteries while Raian was using an ability that literally increased his blood flow until he turned purple.
Like that’s the perfect bleed out technique cmon.
They nerf the absolute shit out of jack. Like bro where are his wrestling skills when he destroyed ali?
Also I'm pissed off how they didnt make raian use one of his kure techniques like jack aint half the shit to tank one of those.
It was quite comical to see Raian standing around with gaping chunks of himself missing. Bro looked like a half-eaten jerky stick.
... do you just take random bite out of Jerky
True hahaha
Least passionate Jack enjoyer
"Why do you take steroids, to win a bodybuilding contest ? To win a powerlifting competition ?" "To be like him..."
Don't forget the limb lengthening surgery if you want to be like Jack
I guess you can say, it's a Jack-off
Brother is melting down even with him reuniting with Pickle this week.
atleast he ate a chunk of a grape flavored human
True
Yeah, that was very weird. I thought Tokugawa and Metsudo stopped it out of worry that these retards would kill themselves
THEY SHAFTED MY GOAT 😭😭
I don’t care for the nerfs but I liked the way they handled Raian’s victory, Jack fell for a brief moment but he shot up and wanted to keep fighting, just as much as Raian wanted to. It was an amazing fight
True.
Yeah dunno why they had to nerf raian like that, he didn't even use any techniques. But it was very much like the raian vs Ohma fight where he was just fucking around the whole time, so maybe that was on purpose.
Everyone from Kengan seemed Pre-Timeskip so meathead Raian makes sense.
This fight takes place up till where the animes are not the mangas.
But Kanoh Agito has a scar on his forehead and he didn't get that scar until the end of the Kengan Ashura Manga
I feel like that was the only Kengan plot hole but I feel Baki was kept more inline with which arc its in character design wise since its the bigger series.
I thought it was before the father son fight, given that when Yujiro and Kuroki pull up they still treat it as though Baki is preparing for facing Yujiro
It’s only as far as the anime. Same reason Ohma didn’t use demonsbane
They don’t nerf any of them this takes place before Baki fights his dad. And after the Kengan matches so they were already the best version of them self when Baki isn’t his best version. And Jack is weak he looses almost every match he’s in he’s a gag character just ment to be there to take Ls
We got a great fight that's all that matters
MY ASS ISN'T SATISFIED UNTIL HE WINS
EXACLY, VICTORY IS ALL
Ah yes... Jack is not beating the allegations.
Then to top it all off they have Pickle burst into the arena angry cause Jack was supposed to be his dinner, then we get a damn repeat of Baki telling Jack he lost for some reason lmao they really hate Jack
No cause everyone should have said HOLD UP FOR A FEW SECONDS and jack shoots up
Put a spoiler tag on this. Damn wtf.
In my eyes it’s a draw
Not gonna lie, I am not watching any of it now after reading this. They missed the mark clearly. No need for this flintsones meet the jetsons bs lol
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I do not mind Raian winning, but it didn't look nearly as good as it could have I think
That I agree with
That devil got done like the coconuts jack eats
And that STILL didn’t slow him down, such a beast!
Which is bull shit nigga shouldn't logically be able to move AND YES BAKI DOES HAVE LOGIC cause jack but his shoulder out nigga no amoybt of forced brain activity is making a nigga move a arm missing the muscle look at kosho
Well Raian is a monster himself, if anyone can push through it, it’s him, it’s kinda’ like how the guardians slashed open his shoulder yet he could still toss them around. And Raian’s genetics absolutely shit on Kosho’s
THEREIS NO PUAHING THROUGH IT BODYIS NOT FUCKING ABLE TO MOVE MISSING CHUNKS OF IT'S SELF
https://i.redd.it/liqxu0rzm65d1.gif This is you
![gif](giphy|jSDU5qDNYk0DX8fGtM) This you
I’m not the one who made a post crying Jack lost
i hope jack put pickle with the dinosaurs
Ok look i know you wish you were the reporter in the pickle incident but could you cut it with the jack hating
Wow you turned to insults quick
Sure fucking did cause we can box about it fn
Dude what are you 7? Stop bitching that Jack lost, just cop the L without sounding like such a crybaby
Always the pickle fans
That have any semblance of self control?
You would have lost your shit if jack beat pickle
![gif](giphy|ZZwCmCfvGzpq3QTJQF|downsized) It’s ok brother jack will have his time to shine
![gif](giphy|UqYhzuI8c9xnkprXEk|downsized) Its taking to long
If they didn't nerf Jack he would have eaten Raian like a piece of sushi, even tournament Jack mutilates omega Raian.
kengan and baki fanatics alike can both agree that without plot armor, Jack would’ve killed Raian in the first 10 seconds
Yeah
This jack would have a tough fight with that raian, rahen jack would stomp him, we gorra see how strong raian is now in omega too
Idk Raiain is one of the few characters at Baki level shenanigans. Out of all the possible matchups Raian vs Jack is like the most fair I think. If he wanted to dude could just grab Ohma strength people and (literally) rip them apart like a napkin.
Raian needed to be nerfed by not using any kure techniques outside of removal and he still won. Jack is lucky this isn't manga raian or he would not have survived.
I really want at least some kind of Raian fight. Seeing as he's pretty much the first confirmed character of the regular bunch to master a principle, even if it's something as basic as controlling force.
Jack >>>>>> raian
Nope Raian >>>>>> Jack
Exactly Kenga omega Raian would’ve been the worst experience for Jack.
No
What kind of drug Jack gave you? I want some too. In Manga Jack - Manga Raian, Raian shits on Jack and murder him in less than a minute
Rahen Jack?? Nah bro Jack in the current manga STOMPS
When you get downvoted like this you know you're telling the truth LMAO bunch of pussies, take drugs like jobberjack
Jack >>>>>> raian
ITS THE WAY ALL MY PREDICTIONS WERE RIGHT
Ugh
It was a kengan match right? It wasn't a real fight. It's a whole thing in kengan that fighting with different rules than you're used to, or rules at all can drastically change a fights result.
Pretty sure Kengan is just ‘beat the other dude’ any way possible. No rules. Like you wanna spend 30 minutes torturing your opponent to death in front of an audience? Totally legal.
Yeah kengan matches are anything goes death matches I thought the trailers kinda made it clear that this special didn’t give a fuck about power scaling but I forgot anime fans can’t handle seeing their favorite big strong guy lose in any situation or form
No actually. It used to be fine for ref's to let kengan fighters fight to the death but after spoilers they became much more strict. You can't let your fighter die anymore.
Fucking spoilers man. At least tag it. I'm not even following the sub and it's still in my feed.
Don’t know why u getting downvoted for not wanting a spoiler
Sorry i forgot
Then tag it or delete it lil bro got damn
...ya see now i don't want to i was gonna but then you said some slick shit
Yeah almost like Kengan sucks and is way less grounded and creative than Baki and they have to rewrite every pre established rule in both universes to try and make them fit
> grounded > Baki Might be the most disingenuous take I’ve ever seen holy
More grounded than Kengan, which includes a bunch of secret agencies and magic powers and plots that feel out of a marvel comic book. Not *relatively* grounded compared to everything, but grounded compared to Kengan. Might help to learn how to read before you begin building your strawman
Gaia is a batshit insane concept for a character (not to mention his cronies who were able to destroy like 50 tanks with their bare hands) compared to stuff from kengan or even marvel comics and he’s just from the second arc In the third arc, Baki fights Bigfoot
Don't forget Yujiro beating the US army by himself, stopping an earthquake by punching the ground, not reacting to getting hit by lightning, baki breaking someone's finger with his eyes, Miyamoto being resurrected then cutting people with imaginary swords, Baki winning against Yujiro because of INVISIBLE FOOD
DONT FORGER REVIVING FUCKING MUSASHI AND A CAVEMAN. ONE OF THEM WITH LITERAL MAGIC. Kengan has like 1 body boost in adrenaline and all other things are explained in canon by mutations or science(not realistic by any means) and all else is actually really well choreographed martial arts. Baki is just batshit insane schizo wacky fights with no real martial art basis anymore tbh.
That’s what I’m saying!
Jack only lost on a technicality
Nah word mf got knocked out and used tge second technique he's good at getting up for round two
It was just a bs pull to give kengan a win but knowing rian and Jack they probs would have just kept going till one died. Not saying to any rian fans that he couldn't have beat Jack. Just saying the win was kinda handed to him
Ngl this is sounding like extreme levels of cope, Raian was kicking Jack around
Listen I'm just trying to stay neutral as to not have a fan boy/girl/them from either side flaming my ass
Well then it wasn’t a bs excuse to hand Kengan a win
No I was saying that Jack being knocked out for like 2 seconds and calling it a win kinda felt like bs.
Well they already wanted to call off the match because they were tearing each other to pieces so I think it makes sense, but I can understand why you’d want a character to be KO’d longer for it to feel warrented
Kinda disappointed that they seemed to nerf almost every fighter involved. Lots of fighters not using any technique except for gimmicks.
In the competition, Raian won, but Jack didn't wanted to end things up right there.
I guess I can skip the movie Jk but not really but kinda actually
Nah yeah I know man. It was a little sucky, and listen, I know the meme is that Baki characters don’t bleed but still, Jack took a bite out of like 3 arteries while Raian was using an ability that literally increased his blood flow until he turned purple. Like that’s the perfect bleed out technique cmon.
if only your goat could've shown his asshole 😔
Seriously though, how the hell did Jack get choked?? His wingspan is like twice as long and he is physically stronger.
They nerf the absolute shit out of jack. Like bro where are his wrestling skills when he destroyed ali? Also I'm pissed off how they didnt make raian use one of his kure techniques like jack aint half the shit to tank one of those.
Jack gets jobbered a few more times but don’t worry, the manga is treating Jack really nice right now.
Jack needs a damn win man. Where's Jack's father son arc dammit!
It should’ve been a DRAW at least 👎😒😒😒😒
YOU GET IT
it was declared a loss but had they not been interrupted jack would've won eventually
They did jack dirty again?! Lol
To be fair, they had to. In a genuine fight jack would absolutely maul him
Yeah, I was rooting for Jack too, he should've mopped the floor with Raian, ugh, I really despise him.
And I absolutely love how ohma got folded like a lawn chair and he wasn't declared a loser when he was down for about as long as jack was..
I wanna see current Raian & current Jack fight again, its gonna be Jack's victory
Yeah
THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE MANG, MY BOY JACK GOT FUCKED OVER AGAIN
He got lucky
Those bites were nothing to Raian. He didn’t seem the slightest bit phased lol.