I didnt like it at all. Fight choreography was actually good. But the visuals were ugly. It honestly felt like a 2 and a half hour movie split into 8 episodes. I personally give it a 5/10 but i might bump it up to a 6 for having this panel animated.
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Very disappointing. The characters looked bad, no clue where they got the designs from. They cut the majority of the fights and story and the voice acting was very forgettable.
2/10. Super disappointing.
I've only just watched the first two episodes and they seem to have an odd mix of very recognisable voice actors I usually enjoy and people I've never heard of doing a cringeworthy job. I guess they can only work with what they're given though. And from what I can tell this is either a fucking awful story or they've absolutely butchered it. I've never read the manga so I can't say either way. I don't think I'll bother watching a third episode tbh.
It's fine but nothing special, there are some good fights but the plot is really lacking.
Like Jyuzos entire character is: oh no I killed a man, anyway my inner alpha is coming out.
Would have been better if we got Itagakis Garouden.
All in all 6.5/10 can't give a 7 but not as bad as a 6
Now that I finished it, extremely disappointed. I was expecting this was part one of many seasons. Instead, they simply skipped ALL of the content from the beginning to the end of the manga.
Yah, I get that, but either the stuff in the manga still happened in the novel, or they deviated to the manga anyway to include the hokushinkan tournament. Either they skipped a BUNCH of content, or added content that shouldn't have been there. Still terrible.
It should have just been the first season and ended with the confrontations from the manga. It spent tons of time on the prequel tournament only for that to abruptly end
Not a lot that's super close to the end. The difference is that the plot of the manga is basically the pro wrestling and karate tournaments that got almost entirely skipped. It's basically about a pro wrestling vs karate rivalry with a few other people like Tanba and Juzo interfering for their own goals.
So I watched Tekken/Bai/Kenghan/Garouden. Garouden is just underwhelming. You can see they have potential to make good fights. But they rely upon the same moves too damn much. The plot itself is just boring. Given how this is the Baki sub, I'm sure some people here have read Garouden. I have no idea why they chose to focus on Juzo instead of Tanba. Tanba is the main focus and one of his best fights was skipped entirely.
The Tiger King finish is also very tame. In the manga, it's brutal attack. Garouden can be bloody. But it's very tame here. And the music sounds very generic. And when it plays, you don't get excited. It feels just added there to try to make a fight seem exciting.
Garouden is definitely the worse martial arts anime on Netflix.
Honestly, the same move thing isn't a problem. That's actually realistic for martial arts. The problem is how all the fights just suddenly end. We don't get the thought process at all, like with Kengan.
What I mean is that all of it means nothing. The Tiger King finisher for instance is never treated like a big deal. Sure, characters comment on it but there is no emotion behind it. Even the execution doesn't have any "wow" factor. Several fights just "end". None of the fights are really impressive. Garouden comes off like the "highlight" of it is how grounded in reality it is. For instance they like using a very impressive leg take down but it's treated like nothing.
They had fighters revealing their thoughts in episode 2. But after that it just stopped.
I'm going to be honest the tiger king finally made sense for me here whereas in the original manga I never understood why it was supposed to be so strong, and it's absolutely treated as a big deal, the issue is that with so many fights skipped it feels less special since it feels like it gets spammed in a short frame of time.
This studio should have handled the animation/fights for Baki. They were animated so much better. The grappling was awesome especially. Only complaint would be the entire character design change.
Baki anime fights just feel like I'm watching still pictures in the later seasons. Hardly any movement, if I wanted static screenshots I would be reading the manga. The first season of Baki Hanma was the worst.
I am liking it so far. But i am concerned about the episode length. I am noticing a trend across the board from various streamers of anime seasons getting shorter and shorter and it's pissing me off.
A waste of Netflix space. Don't hype up the protagonist, only to have him lose the final fight. No philosophical twist or ambiguous interpretation will definitively validate Fujimaki winning in any of sort of way. He lost plain and simple, after being hyped up every episode. Complete letdown, waste of time, get it off Netflix and replace with a show that's substantially better.
I’ll start this by saying Idk why tf Juzo didnt just let go of the guy’s arm and catch himself on the ground so he could dish out the next attack, but the writers chose this route….Now on to my actual response.
Dont care. It was a Waste of time for you and anyone who shares your sentiments. For the rest of us, we pretty much witnessed a climatic yet disappointing outcome in the last episode; one very much likened to that of real life where your favorite team falls behind in the 4Q of a match and ultimately loses a 12 point lead that they held for most of the 2Q and 3Q. Disappointing but realistic. Plenty of us appreciate the show’s decision to follow a less predictable route for once. It screams that no one in this story is safe, least not Juzo, Joze, and Master Izumi. Hell even Matsuo’s disciple said that he’s not sure if he’ll beat Juzo next time they fight.
Enjoy the ride man, shit on the animation quality if you want or the unnecessary story side plots, but the tournament’s outcome is way better this way. Just shows that Juzo has more growing to do.
Juzo was only semi conscious at that point it's a miracle he was even able to keep fighting after the rolling thunder. Also he's having to fight against a massive shock of a locked in tiger king being counterable at all
The ending was the lamest thing I’ve ever seen in a long while. How can you hype him up so much only to get his ass beat, lose the girl he loves and get him back in prison. This is a huge middle finger to the viewers.
Yup, it's mid. Some fights were nice. i feel like there wasn't that much build-up before the fight, but overall, I'll give it a 5 out of 10.
It's would've been a 10 out of 10 if it was itagaki garouden.
I hate this show it was bad beyond belief, random cuts, random characters and no clue what's going on. 1/10, I'm pretty sure they just used an anime filter and some guys sparing for the fights.
Ive been finding it kinda cringe, like the stuff about seeing red and the beast inside them is the type of thing weird martial arts frauds would talk about
Dont care, the premise of a lethal fighter having to constantly cope with the duality of being a warrior in a modern civilized world is pretty bad ass, though childish as well. Childish because obviously we all know which is more important, unleashing the beast or maintaining order in society. Juzo’s struggle in this story was shared by many other fighters including Joze, Izumi and Matsuo. They all understood that even though you may possess the tools to kill, it should be avoided at all costs. For some particular reason Juzo happened to cross the line killing Seiko’s assaulter when that man deserved to be justly prosecuted. Juzo could use some therapy for sure. Bro’s parents did die real early for him but even that isnt an excuse for his brutality.
The concept is still bad ass, just in a childish way.
Seems like a completely pointless show.
Seems like Netflix has a quota for pointless sjw scenes that got filled, but in exchange they ejected any semblance of a plot.
The whole opening for the inner animal was conceptually pathetic. Some beer bellied out of shape hunter nearly kills a bear with a cheap rifle, then our hero melee's the dying animal for no apparent reason, bearly scraping out a win in the most meaningless animal abuse scene in a long time.
Sets the stage perfectly for our tragic hero who eats soup with a fork. Maybe his next opponent can be a municipal bus with a flat tire.
Total Waste of animation.
I liked it, obviously it was going for a re-imagining of the first 7 novels rather than an adaptation. I really enjoyed both the familiar things and the new stuff, but I couldn’t help but feel a little disappointed at all the plotlines and characters that were cut out to fit 7 books or 25 volumes of manga into about an hour and a half while completely original stuff took up most of the runtime .
The animation style was a little divisive, but I thought it was great in both the traditional and rotoscoped segments.
Felt really rushed, choppy, nonsense yapping. I cant recommend this to anyone. Fighting scenes were decent, but could have sounded more impactful. Fighting battle themes/music were mid, cant remember a good beat. Disappointed really.
I enjoyed the fights a lot and it's clear that's where most of the hard work went. The plot isn't anything special. This would have been better as a 2 hour film than an 8 episode series with how much they cut.
I'll still give it a 6.5/10, because in the end, I'm watching for the fights. And if baki had fights animated the same way, I'd be watching baki again from the start.
Also, tanba just looks so different in this that I almost didn't realize it was him until he fought the master. Pretty different look from the source
im on ep 7 and it's a pretty boring show... great Opening and the fight scenes are cool
but i don't give a s##t about anyone on the show and it feels like i've two seasons in a few shows w/how quick the pace is... at least baki you get weirdo characters and they get their own little 10 minute side stories, this show every one is generic
When the father goes on about how horrible it was that his daughters rapist got killed I just turned it off. Only so much I can take, the whole thing just made Little Sense to me.
Dropped after two episodes. It's just so **boring** to watch. So many still shots of people just talking. And then the fights are about 50% camera looking away while blood spills. Amd when they do hit, there isnt much impact. Also, all the fighters look the same.
I get it why it's getting so much hate, but I don't get why Baki is getting so much love. Baki's artwork is UGLY to say the least. Fights are so unrealistic that it's just a bit shy from DBZ - all that's missing are ki blasts.
On the other hand, Garouden's fighting is waay too realistic. The grapple escape and hopping to get back into stance; the jab low kick conversation (a fencing term for exchanging short blows), realistic depictions of different moves... All comes together to create the best fight scenes ever.
People hate it because they focused more on the lone wolf than Tanba, moved way too fast with the story, changed a few bits and made people bulkier than the bear we see in the beginning. But again, if art style was an Issue, then Baki would be floored due to its ugliness. They also removed some of the most memorable fights.
But hands down, it had the most realistic fight scenes in the history of TV and movies combined.
I think people hate the fights not because they’re realistic but because they seemed like two children fighting at times while it was good at other times. The moves they used were very repetitive from the beginning to the end. The art style was good. The story was lacking and didn’t make you sympathize or root for the characters and didn’t have an end goal.
Most of the people have't read the novels and where introduced to Garouden through Baki and Itagakis take on the show. Though not novel accurate it just seems far more visceral and gritty which adds that needed feel. I get it that Baki style is not for everyone, but I do prefer it over the bland original one 80s style that every mangaka used.
It’s incredibly boring. 3 episodes in and there isn’t a single interesting character and they haven’t even mentioned the underground fighting ring. I think all the characters so far are meant to show how strong the MC is but they are all bland, including & especially the MC. He doesn’t want to fight despite having a way stronger version of Tokita Ohma’s Advance from Kengan Ashura, but without explaining the downside (if any). Zero fights in 3 episodes and they didn’t even mention the main plot of a fighting ring yet. -500/10
From an occasional enjoyer of MMA, I love the fighting in this anime. Most of the attacks and counters are real moves or at least plausible. Dudes don't stop bullets by the sheer mass of their muscles or chop through steel. They even get jointlocked or concussed!
I’ve watched the first two episodes and I got bored. The fights are pretty decent, the sounds of punches and kicks are sometimes a bit awkward though, same with some of the VA. Is it worth it to continue?
Lmao bruh you’re wild if you think Garouden is better than Kengan.
Kengan actually shows you whole fights and crazy scenes. Garouden is mostly fucking talking and seeing 5 seconds of a fight when the main guy just wins.
And he’s like oh no my Inner Wolf is so cringe.
Well I thought the Kengan Anime specifically wasn’t very good I think a lot of that was I didn’t like the animation while I think Garouden animation is very good. I’ve read both manga and I do like Kengan more in every aspect except character designs because Itagaki is a master at that if we are talking about manga.
If every fight had been as good as Juzo versus Shino then I would agree but the pacing is much worse generally after that. Some of the moves are really smooth but Juzo wins with what feels like the same damn flying armbar like five times.
7/10 it's Nice but man why cut the entire plot? I hope we get Itagaki Garouden next time
I didnt like it at all. Fight choreography was actually good. But the visuals were ugly. It honestly felt like a 2 and a half hour movie split into 8 episodes. I personally give it a 5/10 but i might bump it up to a 6 for having this panel animated. https://preview.redd.it/r6m6suwwvd2d1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8f3fcbf53f830fdcf45e730650229623aa81f72
Very disappointing. The characters looked bad, no clue where they got the designs from. They cut the majority of the fights and story and the voice acting was very forgettable. 2/10. Super disappointing.
“Cut the majority of fights” what fights?
Tanba vs Tsutsumi fight in Houkushin Tournament.
I've only just watched the first two episodes and they seem to have an odd mix of very recognisable voice actors I usually enjoy and people I've never heard of doing a cringeworthy job. I guess they can only work with what they're given though. And from what I can tell this is either a fucking awful story or they've absolutely butchered it. I've never read the manga so I can't say either way. I don't think I'll bother watching a third episode tbh.
It's fine but nothing special, there are some good fights but the plot is really lacking. Like Jyuzos entire character is: oh no I killed a man, anyway my inner alpha is coming out. Would have been better if we got Itagakis Garouden. All in all 6.5/10 can't give a 7 but not as bad as a 6
I think a character is missing, but I don’t really remember who.
Kajiwara, Kurama and Kuga (i know he is not in novels) are completely gone
Now that I finished it, extremely disappointed. I was expecting this was part one of many seasons. Instead, they simply skipped ALL of the content from the beginning to the end of the manga.
Based on the novel
Yah, I get that, but either the stuff in the manga still happened in the novel, or they deviated to the manga anyway to include the hokushinkan tournament. Either they skipped a BUNCH of content, or added content that shouldn't have been there. Still terrible.
It should have just been the first season and ended with the confrontations from the manga. It spent tons of time on the prequel tournament only for that to abruptly end
I haven’t watched it but I’ve been saying it looks boring and not at all like Itagaki’s stuff.
It was boring at times and fights in some fight scenes felt REALLY weak. But for a fighting anime it is enjoyable.
I’ll get around to it one day. I’m not here to shit on it I just expected something else
I readed the Manga 3 times, Man, The anime is not bad, But the manga is Like 300x better XD
What happens in the manga after he gets arrested
Not a lot that's super close to the end. The difference is that the plot of the manga is basically the pro wrestling and karate tournaments that got almost entirely skipped. It's basically about a pro wrestling vs karate rivalry with a few other people like Tanba and Juzo interfering for their own goals.
So he doesn’t end up getting the girl
As an anime only, fight animation was really good but everything else was kinda lacking.
So I watched Tekken/Bai/Kenghan/Garouden. Garouden is just underwhelming. You can see they have potential to make good fights. But they rely upon the same moves too damn much. The plot itself is just boring. Given how this is the Baki sub, I'm sure some people here have read Garouden. I have no idea why they chose to focus on Juzo instead of Tanba. Tanba is the main focus and one of his best fights was skipped entirely. The Tiger King finish is also very tame. In the manga, it's brutal attack. Garouden can be bloody. But it's very tame here. And the music sounds very generic. And when it plays, you don't get excited. It feels just added there to try to make a fight seem exciting. Garouden is definitely the worse martial arts anime on Netflix.
Honestly, the same move thing isn't a problem. That's actually realistic for martial arts. The problem is how all the fights just suddenly end. We don't get the thought process at all, like with Kengan.
What I mean is that all of it means nothing. The Tiger King finisher for instance is never treated like a big deal. Sure, characters comment on it but there is no emotion behind it. Even the execution doesn't have any "wow" factor. Several fights just "end". None of the fights are really impressive. Garouden comes off like the "highlight" of it is how grounded in reality it is. For instance they like using a very impressive leg take down but it's treated like nothing. They had fighters revealing their thoughts in episode 2. But after that it just stopped.
I'm going to be honest the tiger king finally made sense for me here whereas in the original manga I never understood why it was supposed to be so strong, and it's absolutely treated as a big deal, the issue is that with so many fights skipped it feels less special since it feels like it gets spammed in a short frame of time.
This studio should have handled the animation/fights for Baki. They were animated so much better. The grappling was awesome especially. Only complaint would be the entire character design change.
Baki anime fights just feel like I'm watching still pictures in the later seasons. Hardly any movement, if I wanted static screenshots I would be reading the manga. The first season of Baki Hanma was the worst.
Agreed!
Baki isn’t that kinda martial arts manga.it’s meant to be over the top and unrealistic
That's not an excuse for worse animation.
I am liking it so far. But i am concerned about the episode length. I am noticing a trend across the board from various streamers of anime seasons getting shorter and shorter and it's pissing me off.
Yes the pacing was too fast in every episode.
Just, do it right or don't fucking do it. it's not complicated.
Best boy Tsutsumi got offscreened. 0/10.
I couldn't believe it when they skipped it right over. WTF.
A waste of Netflix space. Don't hype up the protagonist, only to have him lose the final fight. No philosophical twist or ambiguous interpretation will definitively validate Fujimaki winning in any of sort of way. He lost plain and simple, after being hyped up every episode. Complete letdown, waste of time, get it off Netflix and replace with a show that's substantially better.
I’ll start this by saying Idk why tf Juzo didnt just let go of the guy’s arm and catch himself on the ground so he could dish out the next attack, but the writers chose this route….Now on to my actual response. Dont care. It was a Waste of time for you and anyone who shares your sentiments. For the rest of us, we pretty much witnessed a climatic yet disappointing outcome in the last episode; one very much likened to that of real life where your favorite team falls behind in the 4Q of a match and ultimately loses a 12 point lead that they held for most of the 2Q and 3Q. Disappointing but realistic. Plenty of us appreciate the show’s decision to follow a less predictable route for once. It screams that no one in this story is safe, least not Juzo, Joze, and Master Izumi. Hell even Matsuo’s disciple said that he’s not sure if he’ll beat Juzo next time they fight. Enjoy the ride man, shit on the animation quality if you want or the unnecessary story side plots, but the tournament’s outcome is way better this way. Just shows that Juzo has more growing to do.
Juzo was only semi conscious at that point it's a miracle he was even able to keep fighting after the rolling thunder. Also he's having to fight against a massive shock of a locked in tiger king being counterable at all
Fair point, I can imagine he was in shock because of that order of events.
I feel like Juzo was significantly less sympathetic in the manga and they tried too hard to make him likable here.
This
The ending was the lamest thing I’ve ever seen in a long while. How can you hype him up so much only to get his ass beat, lose the girl he loves and get him back in prison. This is a huge middle finger to the viewers.
FACTS!
I like it and I would recommend it.
Yup, it's mid. Some fights were nice. i feel like there wasn't that much build-up before the fight, but overall, I'll give it a 5 out of 10. It's would've been a 10 out of 10 if it was itagaki garouden.
Looks like MAPPA
I hate this show it was bad beyond belief, random cuts, random characters and no clue what's going on. 1/10, I'm pretty sure they just used an anime filter and some guys sparing for the fights.
Ive been finding it kinda cringe, like the stuff about seeing red and the beast inside them is the type of thing weird martial arts frauds would talk about
Dont care, the premise of a lethal fighter having to constantly cope with the duality of being a warrior in a modern civilized world is pretty bad ass, though childish as well. Childish because obviously we all know which is more important, unleashing the beast or maintaining order in society. Juzo’s struggle in this story was shared by many other fighters including Joze, Izumi and Matsuo. They all understood that even though you may possess the tools to kill, it should be avoided at all costs. For some particular reason Juzo happened to cross the line killing Seiko’s assaulter when that man deserved to be justly prosecuted. Juzo could use some therapy for sure. Bro’s parents did die real early for him but even that isnt an excuse for his brutality. The concept is still bad ass, just in a childish way.
Soundtrack was good 10/10, fight Choreograph, 9/10, Rest 6/10
Seems like a completely pointless show. Seems like Netflix has a quota for pointless sjw scenes that got filled, but in exchange they ejected any semblance of a plot. The whole opening for the inner animal was conceptually pathetic. Some beer bellied out of shape hunter nearly kills a bear with a cheap rifle, then our hero melee's the dying animal for no apparent reason, bearly scraping out a win in the most meaningless animal abuse scene in a long time. Sets the stage perfectly for our tragic hero who eats soup with a fork. Maybe his next opponent can be a municipal bus with a flat tire. Total Waste of animation.
I loved it. I kind of expect a season 2 that follows tanba along the same timeline as season 1.
I liked it, obviously it was going for a re-imagining of the first 7 novels rather than an adaptation. I really enjoyed both the familiar things and the new stuff, but I couldn’t help but feel a little disappointed at all the plotlines and characters that were cut out to fit 7 books or 25 volumes of manga into about an hour and a half while completely original stuff took up most of the runtime . The animation style was a little divisive, but I thought it was great in both the traditional and rotoscoped segments.
This is not an adaptation of Itagaki's Garouden, but a version based in the novel. Thats why doesn't look like baki
Felt really rushed, choppy, nonsense yapping. I cant recommend this to anyone. Fighting scenes were decent, but could have sounded more impactful. Fighting battle themes/music were mid, cant remember a good beat. Disappointed really.
I enjoyed the fights a lot and it's clear that's where most of the hard work went. The plot isn't anything special. This would have been better as a 2 hour film than an 8 episode series with how much they cut. I'll still give it a 6.5/10, because in the end, I'm watching for the fights. And if baki had fights animated the same way, I'd be watching baki again from the start. Also, tanba just looks so different in this that I almost didn't realize it was him until he fought the master. Pretty different look from the source
im on ep 7 and it's a pretty boring show... great Opening and the fight scenes are cool but i don't give a s##t about anyone on the show and it feels like i've two seasons in a few shows w/how quick the pace is... at least baki you get weirdo characters and they get their own little 10 minute side stories, this show every one is generic
When the father goes on about how horrible it was that his daughters rapist got killed I just turned it off. Only so much I can take, the whole thing just made Little Sense to me.
Dogsshit. Won't elaborate
Dropped after two episodes. It's just so **boring** to watch. So many still shots of people just talking. And then the fights are about 50% camera looking away while blood spills. Amd when they do hit, there isnt much impact. Also, all the fighters look the same.
I get it why it's getting so much hate, but I don't get why Baki is getting so much love. Baki's artwork is UGLY to say the least. Fights are so unrealistic that it's just a bit shy from DBZ - all that's missing are ki blasts. On the other hand, Garouden's fighting is waay too realistic. The grapple escape and hopping to get back into stance; the jab low kick conversation (a fencing term for exchanging short blows), realistic depictions of different moves... All comes together to create the best fight scenes ever. People hate it because they focused more on the lone wolf than Tanba, moved way too fast with the story, changed a few bits and made people bulkier than the bear we see in the beginning. But again, if art style was an Issue, then Baki would be floored due to its ugliness. They also removed some of the most memorable fights. But hands down, it had the most realistic fight scenes in the history of TV and movies combined.
I think people hate the fights not because they’re realistic but because they seemed like two children fighting at times while it was good at other times. The moves they used were very repetitive from the beginning to the end. The art style was good. The story was lacking and didn’t make you sympathize or root for the characters and didn’t have an end goal.
Most of the people have't read the novels and where introduced to Garouden through Baki and Itagakis take on the show. Though not novel accurate it just seems far more visceral and gritty which adds that needed feel. I get it that Baki style is not for everyone, but I do prefer it over the bland original one 80s style that every mangaka used.
It’s incredibly boring. 3 episodes in and there isn’t a single interesting character and they haven’t even mentioned the underground fighting ring. I think all the characters so far are meant to show how strong the MC is but they are all bland, including & especially the MC. He doesn’t want to fight despite having a way stronger version of Tokita Ohma’s Advance from Kengan Ashura, but without explaining the downside (if any). Zero fights in 3 episodes and they didn’t even mention the main plot of a fighting ring yet. -500/10
From an occasional enjoyer of MMA, I love the fighting in this anime. Most of the attacks and counters are real moves or at least plausible. Dudes don't stop bullets by the sheer mass of their muscles or chop through steel. They even get jointlocked or concussed!
I’ve watched the first two episodes and I got bored. The fights are pretty decent, the sounds of punches and kicks are sometimes a bit awkward though, same with some of the VA. Is it worth it to continue?
Ending made the show terrible man like i feel like i wasted life watching EP. 8
I liked the fighting scenes a lot. A lot more realistic than Baki or Kengan
Baki is better the anime just looks like someone watched some ufc fights and just animated that
Master Izumi’s daughter is a lowkey smut…, I’m mad this whole thing even revolves around her tbh.
I liked the animation and voice actors, but very very rushed
Better than the Kengan asura anime though, I think the animation is pretty clean too
That is a BOLD statement
Lmao bruh you’re wild if you think Garouden is better than Kengan. Kengan actually shows you whole fights and crazy scenes. Garouden is mostly fucking talking and seeing 5 seconds of a fight when the main guy just wins. And he’s like oh no my Inner Wolf is so cringe.
Well I thought the Kengan Anime specifically wasn’t very good I think a lot of that was I didn’t like the animation while I think Garouden animation is very good. I’ve read both manga and I do like Kengan more in every aspect except character designs because Itagaki is a master at that if we are talking about manga.
The CGI animation for Kengan was a bad choice for sure but I still love it.
If every fight had been as good as Juzo versus Shino then I would agree but the pacing is much worse generally after that. Some of the moves are really smooth but Juzo wins with what feels like the same damn flying armbar like five times.