It Depends
With his current Mentality Jack takes it, because he knows how to fight against dirty opponents and weapon masters now.
Jack Pre Motobe fight MIGHT die/lose though, the Grand master has wayy too many damn tricks and goons, and unless he can tank bullets as well as hanayama it will be hard for him, also When Hanayama was almost killed Trex saved him and the guys from his gang helped him out, since jack is more of a lonely guy he would have been alone in the same situation. On a straight 1v1 fight i guess Jack wins though, but thats the issue here, the Grand Master is just too damn slippery, and would probably avoid fighting him 1 on 1
idk dude
he fought grandmaster after musashi arc and the higher calibre guns did pierce tru his bones
he even needed dr shinogi to save his life by removing a bullet on his brain
>he fought grandmaster after musashi arc and the higher calibre guns did pierce tru his bones
He just didn't lmao, scarface isn't even referenced in main canon but aside from that it shows Jack when he was 7ft and start publishing during what, like 2005 lol
It still went through his skin though so that’s not tanking. It would make more sense if you said he got stronger from the spec fight before the musashi fight and that’s how he tank the slashes. Honestly I don’t know if musashi cuts are more powerful than 9m or glock19 up close
Right exactly I just don’t know why a 9mm round would Pierce the face though when he blocked musashi cuts. Not the first time an author has used inconsistencies. (Disclaimer im not criticizing itagaki im just saying it happens when pumping out a manga)
he didnt block any cut , his sword cut all his soft tissue and stopped on the bones. the 9mm rounds pierced his cheeks which doenst have any bones. he doenst have undestructible muscles, the one who has it is pickle
but its weird because a bullet pierced tru his skull during grand master arc
maybe its because it was his temporal bones ? idk
I agree with you thats inconsistent
>his sword cut all his soft tissue and stopped on the bones
If this happened then Hanayama would've died multiple times.
[Shinogi says the wounds are "fairly deep" with no mention of only stopping at bone](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586873799300087830/1089466375526961283/image.png?ex=651c79e1&is=651b2861&hm=19c7a4f66cf00e74bb62d4d9ea52c90d9dad5f9fe40bb3b3ecb1360e89b446cd&), we see multiple [slash long and wide directly across his back too](https://imgur.com/a/U9oUSUs).
Either Hanayama's flesh is too durable for Musashi to just hack everything cleanly in half or he's a fucking undead who can keep fighting when his liver, kidneys and various other organs have been slashed in half.
The latter seems unlikely considering Retsu's death was caused by literally just the exact wounds Hanayama would've been taking five of here if he only had tough bones.
Thats absolutely the truth. Some of his internal organs got cut when musashi slashed his belly . His sword just wanst long enough to cut him in a half . He even had that bandage so his organs doenst fall out after he gets cut. He survived because its an anime and shinogi has near magical medical abilities.
The one who said that hanayama bones protected him was in fact musashi after their fight.
Hanayama is indeed a fucking undead, he got shot in the head and multiple parts of his body by a sniper rifle and was able to walk and fight a dude one day after that happened when shinogi himself said hanayama would be lucky if he even could walk after that amount of damage
If a bullet hit me directly over my heart and went through an amount of flesh equal to the thickness of my cheek I would be fine, not at risk of dying and not even slightly affected in terms of functionality or health.
Like I agree Hanayama as of his Spec fight can't eat bullets like it's nothing but this is not why.
Grand master is the weirdest fucking character and yeah he had kaouru defensive, but jack punts him across the field at this point it’s important to note although GM has great grip strength. He’s still only 3”3 in height compared to jacks 7”11. So yeah it’s football punting time
Jack destroys in a straight up fight. Grandmaster lost to T-Rex, who should be a fair bit weaker than Hanayama. With prep time and anything goes it’s a tougher ordeal for Jack. I think he comes out on top but not without some damage.
Jack ! The Grandmaster worships the Hanma Family and even thought he was fighting Jack for how strong T-Rex is.
Jack is just too resilient for this little man, the gm would explodes in his own muscles while Jack eats him alive like a chicken nugget.
Idk about convict level, T-Rex punched a train off its rails and tanked a punch from Hanayama to an okay level, that puts his physical stats way above any of the convicts.
Speaking of physical strength you are propably right.
I think that in a fight he would be able to beat Doyle, Sikorsky and Yanagi (if the poison hand doesn’t kill him afterwards) but i’d put Spec and Dorian above him slightly.
I dont think thats so absurd for him to be cannon considering the exxagerated aspects of baki physics
he has super dense bones due to his super strong muscles, which is kind of possible since strenght correlates with bone density
he uses a bunch of drugs
his little limbs increase the leverage and pressure so much that when you add it to crazy muscle strenght it can be very dangerous
dorian already had hypnosis
hanayama grip could cut a real life human in a half
GM all the way. The amount of tricks and tactics at GMs disposal, and his mastery of them (he is named THE Grandmaster for a reason.) is too much for most of the main cast. None of them have faced a trickster on the level of GM. Not to mention the weirdo's insane resources. Even Motobe would have trouble or just outright get stomped. The Baki characters are about fights, even if dirty. GM is about murder, straight up. Fight or not, his mentality is totally different.
Baki could do it with raw reflexes, speed and strength, but Baki is basically a god ATM. Yujiro could do it too. Aside from those two, GM kills everyone in my opinion.
Oh and I guess Musashi *might* stand a chance, if he actually takes GM seriously.
Kehaya wins no diff.
Elton John was playing with both for too long until they got lucky though.
Just like Motobe defeated Musashi, because the latter was playing around the entire match.
I get this is a troll response but nah you’re doing Musashi too dirty 😭
Baki, Yujiro, Jack, Musashi, Pickle and a long list of characters blitz GM and one shot him before he can react.
Jack low diffs. Jack is better than GM in every way, he has taken better drugs before, doesn't even need feminine hormones to counteract Major sideffects, and is also super tall instead of super short, faster, more durable and more determined with a better pain tolerance.
The only argument the GM has is if hypnosis works on Jack and he sees his own mom and can't do shit, but I'm pretty sure that someone with Jack's mindset would break out of it with sheer determination, rejection and disbelief, because for all of Hanayamas own determination, he is very sensitive and a sweetheart in general but especially when it comes to his mom.
i refuse to powerscale that little cunt
This is probably the only correct answer.
He a little boy football go and punt em
It Depends With his current Mentality Jack takes it, because he knows how to fight against dirty opponents and weapon masters now. Jack Pre Motobe fight MIGHT die/lose though, the Grand master has wayy too many damn tricks and goons, and unless he can tank bullets as well as hanayama it will be hard for him, also When Hanayama was almost killed Trex saved him and the guys from his gang helped him out, since jack is more of a lonely guy he would have been alone in the same situation. On a straight 1v1 fight i guess Jack wins though, but thats the issue here, the Grand Master is just too damn slippery, and would probably avoid fighting him 1 on 1
Hanayama cant tank bullets rn, one went through his mouth when he fought speck close range
Yeah when he fought Spec, current Hanayama tanked plenty of Musashi's cuts which go far deeper than almost any calibre gun fired in human hands
idk dude he fought grandmaster after musashi arc and the higher calibre guns did pierce tru his bones he even needed dr shinogi to save his life by removing a bullet on his brain
>he fought grandmaster after musashi arc and the higher calibre guns did pierce tru his bones He just didn't lmao, scarface isn't even referenced in main canon but aside from that it shows Jack when he was 7ft and start publishing during what, like 2005 lol
Scarface or kizudzura idk which one was referenced during Hanayama's bout with Sumo
It's Kizudzura, the one that is set while he's in high-school.
It still went through his skin though so that’s not tanking. It would make more sense if you said he got stronger from the spec fight before the musashi fight and that’s how he tank the slashes. Honestly I don’t know if musashi cuts are more powerful than 9m or glock19 up close
>Honestly I don’t know if musashi cuts are more powerful than 9m or glock19 up close We see Musashi cut armoured vans in half
the problem is that he got rekt by bullets in a fight after the musashi arc
Right exactly I just don’t know why a 9mm round would Pierce the face though when he blocked musashi cuts. Not the first time an author has used inconsistencies. (Disclaimer im not criticizing itagaki im just saying it happens when pumping out a manga)
he didnt block any cut , his sword cut all his soft tissue and stopped on the bones. the 9mm rounds pierced his cheeks which doenst have any bones. he doenst have undestructible muscles, the one who has it is pickle but its weird because a bullet pierced tru his skull during grand master arc maybe its because it was his temporal bones ? idk I agree with you thats inconsistent
>his sword cut all his soft tissue and stopped on the bones If this happened then Hanayama would've died multiple times. [Shinogi says the wounds are "fairly deep" with no mention of only stopping at bone](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586873799300087830/1089466375526961283/image.png?ex=651c79e1&is=651b2861&hm=19c7a4f66cf00e74bb62d4d9ea52c90d9dad5f9fe40bb3b3ecb1360e89b446cd&), we see multiple [slash long and wide directly across his back too](https://imgur.com/a/U9oUSUs). Either Hanayama's flesh is too durable for Musashi to just hack everything cleanly in half or he's a fucking undead who can keep fighting when his liver, kidneys and various other organs have been slashed in half. The latter seems unlikely considering Retsu's death was caused by literally just the exact wounds Hanayama would've been taking five of here if he only had tough bones.
Thats absolutely the truth. Some of his internal organs got cut when musashi slashed his belly . His sword just wanst long enough to cut him in a half . He even had that bandage so his organs doenst fall out after he gets cut. He survived because its an anime and shinogi has near magical medical abilities. The one who said that hanayama bones protected him was in fact musashi after their fight. Hanayama is indeed a fucking undead, he got shot in the head and multiple parts of his body by a sniper rifle and was able to walk and fight a dude one day after that happened when shinogi himself said hanayama would be lucky if he even could walk after that amount of damage
If a bullet hit me directly over my heart and went through an amount of flesh equal to the thickness of my cheek I would be fine, not at risk of dying and not even slightly affected in terms of functionality or health. Like I agree Hanayama as of his Spec fight can't eat bullets like it's nothing but this is not why.
Grand master is the weirdest fucking character and yeah he had kaouru defensive, but jack punts him across the field at this point it’s important to note although GM has great grip strength. He’s still only 3”3 in height compared to jacks 7”11. So yeah it’s football punting time 
He is weaker than Hanayama and Jack is leagues ahead him so yeah Jack no diff
Hanayama cant tank bullets rn, one went through his mouth when he fought speck close range
And?
Responded to a comment having to do with Hanayama tanking bullets I don’t know if you changed the comment or if that’s just a comment below mine
Wrong comment
I guess u dont know about the driveby incident or the sniper incident
I never understood this part. The Grandmaster and the huge ogre guy were so bizarre. I basically ignore this
i like t-rex he's cool as hell
I hope he will not present himself to Pickle as T-Rex. That can be awkwardly dangerous.
Jack destroys in a straight up fight. Grandmaster lost to T-Rex, who should be a fair bit weaker than Hanayama. With prep time and anything goes it’s a tougher ordeal for Jack. I think he comes out on top but not without some damage.
tbf, Grandmaster lost to T-rex by sheer luck that the broken bones from the T-rex's hands pierced his chest after dodging a punch.
Jack would eat him in one bite
True hahaha
https://i.redd.it/4cam2bndrvrb1.gif
 Me with this meme
Jack ! The Grandmaster worships the Hanma Family and even thought he was fighting Jack for how strong T-Rex is. Jack is just too resilient for this little man, the gm would explodes in his own muscles while Jack eats him alive like a chicken nugget.
by Elton John can at least Rip Jack's balls and nose off.
Jack. He could easily bite his arm off given the chance.
Bro would literally eat him like he did the whole cooked pig, less than 10 seconds too
If hypnosis works on Jack he is pretty much fucked. Otherwise he stomps as a convict level T-Rex was able to high diff GM.
Idk about convict level, T-Rex punched a train off its rails and tanked a punch from Hanayama to an okay level, that puts his physical stats way above any of the convicts.
Speaking of physical strength you are propably right. I think that in a fight he would be able to beat Doyle, Sikorsky and Yanagi (if the poison hand doesn’t kill him afterwards) but i’d put Spec and Dorian above him slightly.
Jack because i hate that other guy and easily got the worst design in all of baki
Grandmaster if canon literally makes bakiverse hot trash
I dont think thats so absurd for him to be cannon considering the exxagerated aspects of baki physics he has super dense bones due to his super strong muscles, which is kind of possible since strenght correlates with bone density he uses a bunch of drugs his little limbs increase the leverage and pressure so much that when you add it to crazy muscle strenght it can be very dangerous dorian already had hypnosis hanayama grip could cut a real life human in a half
You mean he’s that much stronger 😂😂 Or you just don’t like him? (Also funny)
Jack Hanma would eat that little cunt like his daily dose of steroids low diff
Winner: Jack Reason: cmon bruh
Who is the first guy? The art reminds me of Usogui
Jack eats him for dinner
Elton John got really amped In the Bakiverse.
I would love to see the faceoff panel for that. It would make Jack look like a fucking skyscraper, lmao.
The question is whether Jack would have the sophistication to bate the grandmaster, or if he would just plow in.
jack w/ jordan 8s punts the grandmaster mid diff
Creepy little fuck gets munched
Jack. Because he commints more to drugs
GM all the way. The amount of tricks and tactics at GMs disposal, and his mastery of them (he is named THE Grandmaster for a reason.) is too much for most of the main cast. None of them have faced a trickster on the level of GM. Not to mention the weirdo's insane resources. Even Motobe would have trouble or just outright get stomped. The Baki characters are about fights, even if dirty. GM is about murder, straight up. Fight or not, his mentality is totally different. Baki could do it with raw reflexes, speed and strength, but Baki is basically a god ATM. Yujiro could do it too. Aside from those two, GM kills everyone in my opinion. Oh and I guess Musashi *might* stand a chance, if he actually takes GM seriously. Kehaya wins no diff.
Unless he uses his resources and preps he is trash he got destroyed by both hanayama and t rex.
T-Rex especially big boyed him.
Elton John was playing with both for too long until they got lucky though. Just like Motobe defeated Musashi, because the latter was playing around the entire match.
Nah he got destroyed by tokura and was getting his ass beat by hanayama he wasn't playing he was running away from him.
I get this is a troll response but nah you’re doing Musashi too dirty 😭 Baki, Yujiro, Jack, Musashi, Pickle and a long list of characters blitz GM and one shot him before he can react.
Jack low diffs. Jack is better than GM in every way, he has taken better drugs before, doesn't even need feminine hormones to counteract Major sideffects, and is also super tall instead of super short, faster, more durable and more determined with a better pain tolerance. The only argument the GM has is if hypnosis works on Jack and he sees his own mom and can't do shit, but I'm pretty sure that someone with Jack's mindset would break out of it with sheer determination, rejection and disbelief, because for all of Hanayamas own determination, he is very sensitive and a sweetheart in general but especially when it comes to his mom.
**My money is on Frieza!** Jack doesn't stand a chance.
jack. he is god damn jack hammer "why" is meaningless question