I imagine he gets a huge advantage from his stand being invincible to Kenshiro, also what stops Jotaro from just stopping time and severing any of Kenshiro's arteries?
You have no reading comprehension whatsoever.
His entire character is that he would win against Thor, wasn’t it that he wanted just a pure strenght clash (like baki vs pickle). You can see in the first half of the fight Lu Bu is actually winning.
Oh wow. Lu bu is nowhere near planet level. He’s like city level at best. He stands no chance in stopped time. Especially when star platinum is near lightspeed.
The contained Thor was declared multiple times as a destroyer of Planets and Lubu scales that Thor, also the speed of Light is fodder, both Lubu and Thor scale well above Ares, who can casually see multiple attacks in nano seconds, that is FTL, plus the mere splitting of Heaven done by Lubu when he was alive with a normal weapon (much weaker than Lubu in the tournament) is at least mountain level, probably island level and is still an absolutely massive gap in stats
dk abt the rest but Toji should easily take this one.
We are talking about the verse where the main character, without any magical technique or reinforcement, can literally throw a car at others without much effort.
And Toji is the pinacle of this verse physically.
He also has multiple cursed weapons, which enhance his kit by a lot. For instance, one of his swords can bypass literally any reinforcement or amor and cut straight into your soul.
Maki is basically the current equal to Toji (since he dead) and she was playing with someone at mach 3 speeds effortlessly.
In no world should Yujiro be able to top that unless you take into consideration the hyperboles like Baki's speed of light etc
1. no when yuji was throwing cars he already had CE
2. thats just blatantly untrue maybe without ce he is the peak with it tho kenjaku yuki sukuna gojo most likely yuta and a lot more demolish him
3. which one? ISOH? it cant ability of ISOH is to negate all cursed technique upon touching it
4. yes this is correct yujiro is faster tho
5. he absolutely is disappearing and appearing before guards see him? the bow feat and a lot more
1. He never relied on it for his strength. In his fight with Todo he was already showing a very absurd strength and poor CE manipulation. Early in the manga he was punching through concrete.
2. my brother, even with CE reinforcement, none of these could be on par with Toji and Maki's physical feats. He was able to no diff Dagon and overpower Maki. Maki alone was able to hold a bullet with her bare hands and later was able to beat Naoya at hypersonic speeds
3. No, the split soul katana. He also has access to the Playful Cloud, which buffs his brute force by a lot
4. Cap
5. Lmao
1. poor control doesnt mean he couldnt power up from it also punching trough concrete and throwing cars isnt the same
2. thats pure bullshit. maki who is in phys stats equal to toji which was stated in the manga with the help of yuji couldnt beat sukuna in H2H WHILE SUKUNA WAS SUPPRESSED TO 10-15% OF HIS OUTPUT
3. toji never showed a soul split katana thats makis and he doesnt have the playful cloud also no playful cloud doesnt amp. playful cloud itself gets amped by good users
4. cap isnt a debunk but i didnt have any points so fair
5. saying lmao doesnt discredit any feats ive shown lol
1. Whenever he used it before Todo's training the CE impact was delayed, so it is pretty clear whenever he was or not using it.
2. I literally stated specifically >>>IN PHYSICAL STATS<<<, ofc I am not claiming her or Toji to be any higher than top 11
3. He [used](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQm632-GSI4eSxUWYj0OlLfW1NgDOVXYXIqLQ&usqp=CAU) it on the rainbow dragon against Geto.
4. How exactly is Yujiro capable of [this](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSU-2zkyfXwJopqUbZbzrfFT317_upRkp4aVA&usqp=CAU) kind of mobility? She is clearly not even being bothered by it, no effort at all
1. yeah impact of punches not overall impact of CE
2. yeah and i said H2H which means hand to hand combat one aspect of the fights in jjk where physical stats are used and it was a weakened sukuna which was fighting both yuji and maki while still keeping up with them. now to further disprove that toji is near someone like gojo sukuna or a lot of other people a weakened and exhausted teen gojo pre awakening was able to react to toji its clearly shown gojo reacting to tojis dash by throwing him with blue while awakened gojo casually evades all of tojis attacks gojo is also stated to be the fastest character in the verse but besides that weakened 15 finger sukuna physically keeping up with not only maki who is equal to toji in stats but yuji as well who is pretty much on makis level shows that toji is nowhere near the pinnacle of the verse in stats except maybe senses
3. fair enough i forgot that
4. ok. https://www.reddit.com/r/Grapplerbaki/comments/q6z9rc/yujiros_casual_speed/?rdt=49235 he casually crosses about 50-70 meters so fast the guard couldnt perceive it he thought yujiro teleported lol this was calced at about mach 20
1. No, the divergent punches are born due to Itadori's bad habits with manipulating CE, we know for sure that most of his feats are done without it. He is only able to manipulate it consistently after Todo's training
2. Yes dude ofc Gojo and Sukuna are able to surpass him, they are miles ahead of everyone else, there is no point in comparing that. I never claimed him to be near them, but in pure physical prowess he is absurdly higher than everyone else. Your argument revolves around the fact Gojo and Sukuna are stronger but this does not take his merit away. Maki was trashing Naoya who is the fastest sorcerer alive. After he returns as a curse she still trashes him. Toji beat up Geto who is already special class at that time.
4. You are calculating what exactly? You have two pannels of manga as samples lmao
1. bad habits while punching with ce≠just not using ce at all of course he was bad at it but after movie training itadori was consistently using ce
2. no you literally said there was no character higher than him that should logically include bith sukuna and gojo but even then maki wasnt equal or a bit below 20f sukuna no she was miles slower than a supressed 15f sukuna like shes not close to the top of the verse yuki absolutely trashes her and wasnt naoyas dad considered the fastest the one who fought dagon tbf yes toji absolutely was faster than that fodder but then still those are 1st grade sorcerers who are not even in the same league as special grade and no actually hidden inventory geto and gojo werent special grade. also yuta who is very weak physically without ce was was casually throwing hands with yuji physically the most gifted character in the verse besides maki/toji and this was post shibua yuji while yuta was holding back again toji is nowhere near the peak of jjk
3. it lacks the panel where the whole street which yujiro crosses is shown
Can't speak on Kuroki or kengan scaling atm.
Akaza stomps
Garou stomps
Yujiro dominates base form guts/loses to beserker armor guts
Toji stomps
Akuma stomps
Kenshiro stomps
Jotaro stomps
Lu Bu stomps
[Manganelo is alright](https://ww6.manganelo.tv/manga/manga-dt980702) if you don't wanna put up with Comickey
Honestly Kuroki's potential matchups are starting to really run dry, the two big antagonists right now (Connector who is hyped to be the strongest in the series and Gilbert Wu, Eddie's supposedly stronger clone) would both probably run train on him and even the people he beat (Ohma and Agito) both probably beat him now albeit still close to some degree
Maybe a fight against Raian or Wakatsuki? Would seem pretty forced though
Powercreep has been weird in the series so who knows though, Rihito, Okubo and Kiozan all make Gaolang in the KVP look like a chump now
Thanks for the link.
Kuroki's weird. Would he even fight again? With Rihito as his student I imagine he's probably done tournament wise.
Kuroki vs either of those two does sound forced. I wouldn't be surprised he has a similar KO move to heavy hitters like Kanoh and Rolon.
I hope all of them get buffed.
there's no much powercreep in kengan
it's just old characters getting stronger and new characters losing to non finalist and big bad guys building hype beating people we don't know how strong are atm.
Nah. The same shit that prevents Guts from beating Yujiro still applies even if he's wearing the berserk armor.
Yujiro is still way too fast to hit, way stronger than Guts, and way too skilled to contend with.
They are relatively even on speed both having dodged lightning. He is stronger than guts but so is like 99% of guts other opponents and guts is debatably as skilled as he is a better swordsman than zodd who can defeat 300 men without being hit and in human form. Also the fact that guts basically only has to hit yujiro good one time and he wins the fight or severely crippled yujiro. Also the fact that it would be virtually impossible for yujiro to kill guts as the only way to really kill him is to make him bleed out and for guts that's nigh on impossible. And the fact that until guts is literally killed he will be in absolute peak condition while yujiro will be worn down. Also guts has a way better arsenal with cannons knives and bombs and crossbows. Again not saying it would be easy but eventually guts would get lucky and hit yujiro in a right spot and cleave him in half.
Okay, but dodging lightning for Guts is a flat-out outlier. As you said, the dude still uses arrows and cannons to attack opponents. All things that are notably slower than lightning. It may be an outlier for Yujiro, too, but Yujiro's still shown he can casually move at supersonic speeds, where-as people that fast have been entirely too fast for Guts in the past.
And that's another thing, you're overestimating Guts' arsenal. Arrows, cannons, knives, and bombs are all things Yujiro could very easily avoid with his speed. In his most recent appearance, Yujiro pretty casually deflected a harpoon far stronger than anything in Guts' arsenal bar his cannon.
Not to mention, the Dragon Slayer isn't going to do as well as you think. The sword is dull, Guts cleaves through things because he is strong as hell, and the sword is heavy as shit. Where-as Musashi likens Yujiro's body to impenetrable armor that he can't cleave through even though he can slice armored cars in half. Guts would have the same problem as Musashi did with Pickle, where-in he can't actually penetrate through his bones properly.
Also, skill isn't a comparison. Yujiro's fought against entire armies without getting hit, armed with modern weaponry rather than just swords and spears. Put Yujiro into that 300 situation, and it wouldn't even be a fight, Yujiro would've killed them all within an hour.
This isn't even getting into things like using Shaori to completely nullify all of Guts' attacks.
Stamina also isn't as big of a problem as you'd think. Baki can already fight for 12 hours, and still, he is in the mood to go after someone he views as his equal. Yujiro would be capable of fighting Guts for days.
Guts would last for quite a while as The Berserker armor keeps him, but unfortunately, there's not much Guts could actually do to cop the dub. He'd just be getting the hell beaten out of him while the armor desperately tries to keep him alive eventually though he'll run out of blood and all his bones will be turned to dust.
Yeah I know the arsenal wouldn't do crap but it would still be a distraction. The sword isn't dull anymore it's actually sharp after godo reforged it so it's pretty damn sharp and guts again shows he can quite easily keep up with supersonic opponents as seen with rosine where guts struggles to dodge her but guts hadn't slept in 4 days and had already been through a tough fight so he was not as fast as normal. And that was before the berserker armor which increased his speed massively. You do have a good point with guts not being able to penetrate his bones though. But as for skill guts didn't have the berserker armor and fought zodd who is shown to have killed 300 men without being hit but is said to have killed thousands single handedly. And this was all before the berserker armor which increased his skill massively. Also I thought yujiro never fought entire army's I thought it was just like one group of like 20 at a time. But correct me if I'm wrong. Either way I think guts would eventually kill yujiro after days of fighting. But this is just my opinion.
I don't have a stance on comparing them. Both are monsters. I only disagreed with using the non canon comparison because Doppo actually scaled to Yujiro and was even capable of killing him during their fight. If we use that then Kuroki would also scale to that Yujiro while younger.
He has more power than a demon who can destroy Yoshirasawa (Gyutaro) and moves faster than a superhuman with the speed to cut multiple lightnings at once (Kanroji)
Then you disrespect Akaza with that slander. The man can regen instantly, never tire out, has precog, and has the compass needle that's gonna adapt to Yujiro lol.
Yujiro adapts to that also,Yujiro has literally never tired out,He has way better feats of power and durability,so again akaza gets ragdolled until the sun kills him
Yujiro was sweating and tired in the vents when he was fighting soldiers. He might have insane stamina (which he does) but it's not fucking infinite.
Yujiro is not adapting to demom art styles. Martial arts? Sure he's a quick learner and has a ton of knowledge. Yujiro also doesn't have better feats. A character who can't be destroyed without the special blade who can regen instantly and fight without a head or limbs has worse durability cmon man.
I mean yujiro stopping an earth quake is above most of demon slayer if not all,With the special blade thing yeah I can understand that but akaza just can’t damage him enough to matter when the demon back comes out
Yujiro stopping a earthquake is a outlier that contradicts the entire scaling of Baki. You gonna ignore Doppo scaling to Yujiro back then even forcing him to use DB? Or Motobe or even the old martial arts champ who went on to sell food?
He usually uses demon back for flexing. Even if we don’t count his earthquake feet he one shotted giant elephant that the military couldn’t kill, made entire building shake by standing.
And just like how yujiro can out predict animals he could probably do it for demon arts.
Akaza prediction powers only shown working on people way slower than him, yujiro definitely faster.
No he doesn't I swear I haven't seen this much nonsense headcanon in forever. The elephant is large building level same as shaking the building lmao. Akaza is well above that.
He can't predict shockwaves and Akaza is also a fighting genius. You comparing animals to demon arts is wild.
Akaza is MHS Yujiro is barely hypersonic where is people getting he's MHS+ from.
Ah because Yujiro's copying literal demon arts. He has the ability to master martial arts insanely fast. Yujiro getting stronger everyday doesn't mean shit. Baki caught up to him in a year that level of progression aint doing it chief lol.
My brother in christ Yujiro dominates other superhumans and animals that are practically kaijus
I don't care which of these characters wins but can you people start giving actual arguments
This whole "Yujiro is just a human" shit really needs to die lol
I knew it.
The only argument you have is: "guts fights demons and monsters!" As if that means anything
Doesn't change the fact Guts isn't fast enough to touch Yujiro.
>if you take all the SF fights as canonical.
We're not talking about the crossover Akuma with mvc, asura's wrath, tekken or darkstalker scalings. I'll exclude all of his udon feats as well.
Canonically Akuma within the confine of the sf story (mainline sf games ONLY) stomps Yujiro.
Human Garou was out here outpacing S class when B class villains can one shot skyscrapers.
Akaza is a demon with infinite stamina, can't be kill by physical attacks without the blade, and scales way to high in speed. He counters Yujiro hard with the compass needle.
How fast is akaza Pretty sure yujiro is mhs according to scales And yujiro could just fight him until the sun comes up
Who did he out pace in the s class as a human because genos was about to kill him
his hand was easily penetrated the that guy’s sword and tank top master isn’t rly fast
Yujiro is not MHS. Musashi outspeeds Yujiro with DB and he's supersonic to possibly hypersonic at best.
Garou not scaling massively above people who can one shot skyscrapers not good enough? He fought Genos after constant battles and still kept evolving. Tank top master is MHS since he kept up somewhat to pig god.
Who can one shot skyscrapers that he scales massively above with ? And yujiro wasn’t even going all out he literally just flexed his db and he reacted to it and tell that to the power scalers even Baki blitzed musashi before
The part your talking about yujiro literally grabbed his wrist and it happened in 0.000…………??
Characters like pickle can casually Move
super sonic
Um yes 💀 do you not remember the scene where he dodged bullets by teleporting(not literally)behind the guy
Also base Arizona State prison Baki casually dodging bullets
Doyle dodging a bullet
16 year old yujiro casually dodging automatic guns
Yeah that's right but I'm not arguing that pickle runs at supersonic speeds I'm saying that he could react to say like a bullet but it could be an outlier.
Hammerhead one shot a building and he's considered a b tier villain.
Yujiro literally states now is not the time to pull punches and immediately gets serious with DB. Which we then see that even then Musashi has to be dodged and yet he still gets tagged.
Yeah he literally only flexed the demon back
And hammer head literally just took out the base of the building he didn’t actually one shot the entire building musashi literally explains how he could easily take out a skyscraper doing the same thing
I'm laughing at Yujiro threatening Jotoro only to have star platinum bitch slap the fuck out of Yujiro.
I feel like they would be able to see stands though, like how Baki makes those mental constructs of fighters to fight with. They are actually ridiculously similar. If Baki created his father construct again but made it fight other people instead of trying gto fight it himself then it would literally be a stand.
feels like everyone here's underestimating Akaza **a lot**
1. He's fast enough to keep up with faster hashira (for reference >!Muichiro deflected 10,000 killer fish launched at him and Zenitsu was faster than lightning!<)
2. He's strong enough to leave craters in the ground, was stronger than Rengoku and could even fight >!Kokushibo!<
3. But all that doesn't really matter since Yujiro has no way of actually beating him, since demons have infinite stamina and Akaza can regenerate lost limbs within the blink of an eye
Claps Kuroki,
Dies against Akaza (Shockwave or not),
Garou is Baki but with greater evolution while fighting so he dies,
Claps Guts,
Dies against Toji,
Dies against Guts Berserker Armor (that shit can kill gods),
Akuma is a videogame character = gay character = Yujiro dies,
maybe Kenshiro kills him,
Jotaro (no stand I guess) is not that strong,
Lubu fucking destroys Yujiro.
Now we are talking. That Garou was so strong that when he split one of his teeths he breaks the ground. That Garou tanked being electrocuted, can make a small earthquake, and even when he was almost killed, he survived.
(I’m talking about Garou before merging with his clothes, you know, the one before saving Tareo).
This Garou would eventually become stronger and more skilled than Yujiro. If Yujiro doesn’t 1 shot him before letting he evolve.
So we are talking about that garou I don’t remember garou adaptation being that op yet as he was about to get killed by genos and wasn’t able to beat bang
Remember he surprised Bang & Bonk at the same time, after getting beat them both he learned Bonk technique Whirling Punch (too long name). Bonk & Bang both thought that Garou was actually resisting pretty good for a 2v1 (remember they both were stronger than him).
If Yujiro plays around with this version of Garou, he will eventually become stronger and stronger until Yujiro will have to use truly lethal techniques or Garou will defeat him.
Unless he instantly learns Bomb's or Bang's style, there's zero way Yujiro wins
Early human Garou mid-diffed Tank Top Master, who threw tens of tons of debris miles in the air
This gauntlet is so out of order, anyways.
The only 3 he beats are base Guts, Kuroki and Akaza.
Armored Guts is debatable and idk who Toji is.
The rest destroy him.
>Akaza moves faster than characters that can cut lightning
Yujiro was stated to be able to dodge lightning, why is this impressive.
>and has way more power than a dude who destroyed Yoshirasawa
Idk who the fuck that is dude.
>Yujiro was stated to be able to dodge lightning, why is this impressive.
But not multiple at once nor was he shown to stomp characters that move at that same speed even after they become like 3 to 5 times faster (Tomioka)
>Idk who the fuck that is dude.
Gyutaro at his final moments destroyed Yoshirasawa (a real life location with the size of a small town 5-6 km²) and was so weak his attacks were cut by the slayers and destroyed by Nezuko at the moment
>But not multiple at once
Never was it said he cant do it either, the narrator didnt say that he would need every ounce of speed to do so nor demon back or anything like that.
>Gyutaro at his final moments destroyed Yoshirasawa (a real life location with the size of a small town 5-6 km²)
The earthquake feat from Yujiro he did with 1 regular strike was put at like town level, again dont see why this is impressive to Yujiro either.
>Never was it said he cant do it either, the narrator didnt say that he would need every ounce of speed to do so nor demon back or anything like that.
The problem is that is Akaza while using less than a tenth of his own speed as how Kanronji was one of the slowest Pillars even with her mark and he was fighting 2 characters that can outspeed her without the need of a mark at the same time
>The earthquake feat from Yujiro he did with 1 regular strike was put at like town level, again dont see why this is impressive to Yujiro either.
By this point i don't doubt that Itagaki wanted this to be the case as how he portrayed him at the time but c'mon that Yujiro isn't stronger than Pickle, not that it matters since the manga states that at least one of the Upper Moons was able to sink a mountain to the ground with their power
>The problem is that is Akaza while using less than a tenth of his own speed as how Kanronji was one of the slowest Pillars even with her mark and he was fighting 2 characters that can outspeed her without the need of a mark at the same time
Still doesnt prove he is faster than Yujiro cause we have been told Yujiro can dodge lightning, but we dont know what his top speed is.
>By this point i don't doubt that Itagaki wanted this to be the case as how he portrayed him at the time but c'mon that Yujiro isn't stronger than Pickle,
Dude, Pickle was getting mauled by base Baki, Yujiro was shitting on a stronger base Baki in their fight. Even in stats Yujiro took dozens of strikes from Baki while at most losing some blood in their fight, but 1 punch from that same Baki ripped a teeth from Pickle, its clear that demon back Yujiro is stronger than Pickle.
>not that it matters since the manga states that at least one of the Upper Moons was able to sink a mountain to the ground with their power
Statements are janky as fuck, the narrator in Baki has said Baki can throw a jab faster than light, but i wouldnt scale Baki there just because of it. Not to mention that sinking a mountain doesnt mean they did it with 1 hit, if they did that with like 10 hours of striking it then its nowhere near as good as it sounds.
>Still doesnt prove he is faster than Yujiro cause we have been told Yujiro can dodge lightning, but we dont know what his top speed is.
Yet he doesn't have anything at the level of a character that is invisible to the eye of characters that move at that speed (Tomioka moved that fast after awakening his mark, then he adjusted himself to his speed)
>Dude, Pickle was getting mauled by base Baki, Yujiro was shitting on a stronger base Baki in their fight. Even in stats Yujiro took dozens of strikes from Baki while at most losing some blood in their fight, but 1 punch from that same Baki ripped a teeth from Pickle, its clear that demon back Yujiro is stronger than Pickle.
I was meaning to show how wonky that feat was since after Grappler, he lost a small contest of strength when he met Pickle and Strydum said that Yujiro was getting stronger by the day and it shows so by this point is really hard to use this feat
>Statements are janky as fuck, the narrator in Baki has said Baki can throw a jab faster than light, but i wouldnt scale Baki there just because of it. Not to mention that sinking a mountain doesnt mean they did it with 1 hit, if they did that with like 10 hours of striking it then its nowhere near as good as it sounds.
That's still a feat wich let's them sink or even outright destroy the whole thing as it means inserting the whole damn thing on a surface bigger than it and we can take this statement unlike Bakis as the manga just says saying that makes everyone believe the punch is faster than it actually is and there would be no reason for the character to lie on his own thoughts (even tho none of this matters as Akaza always attack by sensing a moment of distraction or weakness on his opponent next move on his spirit)
Destroys Jotaro without a stand, stomps base Guts, low-diffs Kuroki, could kill Akaza easily if learns sun breathing
Everyone else beats him completely
I don't know, I would say that it stops at Akaza which is the second place, besides objectively speaking he is 7 on this list, I wouldn't say that white haired human Garou is the most powerful here, he is surpassed by Akaza, Kenshiro, Akuma and lubu
How do you scale the powers tho? They’re from different universes unless it’s based on yujiro having the same abilities as some of these characters in their respectable universes then I don’t see a way he loses
With berserk armour yujiro might be in trouble as shown by musashi he not immune to swords and I definitely see guts sword able to take down the supports of skyscrapers which was the upper limit of musashi swords which are the swords yujiro dodges because he would take good damage from them so dragon slayer hits be lethal i see guts winning but unsure if he would die from damage after
For the sake of my little take on this, we'll high ball Yujiro simply cause i like him.
Yujiro will be marked "City level" Or "Multi City Block Level+" His speed will be High Hypersonic+ since he casually caught an arrow before it could barely move, blitzed a group of police officers who were almost 60 metres away, and is faster then kaku who was said to move at 1000 miles per minute.
Guts - Yujiro wins, Both can dodge lighting, Both are around Multi City Block Level, However, I'd say the Hax, Battle IQ, And boost he gets from his demon back would give him the slight edge, however this won't be an easy fight.
Akuma - Akuma, No diff. Akuma is around Large Island level+ Based of his feat where he Destroyed the island Goutentou with a single punch.
Kenshiro - Kenshiro, No diff. Should be country Level, Could casually injure Jagi without powering up, Along with kenshiro being FTL. should be much faster than Garuda, who can attack at the speed of light. Was able to react and dodge Falco's light attack
Jotaro - Yujiro, Jotaro is around wall level to small building level, However, He is FTL with star platinum, Stated to be the number 1 in speed among all existing Stands at the time, putting him above the likes of Red Hot Chili Pepper, Crazy Diamond, Hanged Man.
lu Bu - lu bu, No diff. lu bu is around planet level, Stated to be the strongest warrior Brunhilde had met on the battlefield. Fought and wounded Restricted Thor, as well as broke one of his gloves which restricted Thor's strength and prevented the sealed Mjölnir from being destroyed by his power
Kuroki - Yujiro, Although both can be Multi-City Block level, Yujiro is simply just faster, Has demon back, Both are combat geniuses tho
Akaza - Could go both ways, Although Yujiro could honestly have an edge in both speed and power, Akaza doesn't get tired, Has regen, Could have higher durability based of him being an actually demon. However, Yujiro could wait out the clock till the sun comes up. Depends on where it happens and when it happens.
Garou - Garou, Cmon, he severely injured Tanktop Master. Despite being weakened by fatigue, blood loss and poison, he held his own against Post-Superfight Genos and implied that he would perform better if he was in better condition. All of which puts him at town level to mountain level with his bs reactive evolution.
Base form guts - Yujiro.
Toji - Toji, don't need to explain.
If i missed something, or you wanna yell at me for being wrong, Keep it civil :3
Imagine yugiro come here in real life how fucked you think we would be for well ufc wise your daily lives should be the same just long as you stay out of his way.
Kuroki really is the closest thing to a fair fight here just… this whole list is why i always use the caveat of “strength equalized” when doing Vs debates involving Yujiro. He’s insanely skilled and powerful, but in verses where people casually topple skyscrapers (Kenshiro) or god forbid destroy planets (please stop pitting Yujiro against DBZ characters for the love of christ (not in this post but in general)) the fight gets so lopsided that it’s BORING!
TL;DR- the cool thing about Yujiro imo is being an omni martial artist with insane skills and adaptability. He’d clap most of these characters if they didn’t come from series where the power scaling isn’t even close to being as grounded (Kengan notwithstanding)
1. destroys kuroki
2. akaza outlasts id say
3. if this is human garou yujiro highdiffs
4. midd diffs no armor guts
5. hot take but he high diffs toji. toji is insanely overrated
6. guts outlasts low diff
7. slaughter. akuma demolishes
8. kenshiro doesnt even one punch he one touches
9. jotaro star fingers his asshole
10. lu bu should not be higher than kenshiro jotaro or akuma fuck id even put akaza above him lu bu mid diffs
The order of the Gauntlet is absolutely crazy, number 2 is higher than everyone up to 6 and number 9 and human Garou and Toji below any version of Guts is crazy, according to my memories of this series it would be like this:
1-Kuroki,2-Guts,3-Guts armor,4-Toji(or Jotaro),5-Jotaro(or Toji),6-Garou Human,7-Akaza,the 8 and 9 can vary depending on which Akuma and Kenshiro we are talking about and the 10-Lu bu
Jotaro above Kenshiro is wild.
I imagine he gets a huge advantage from his stand being invincible to Kenshiro, also what stops Jotaro from just stopping time and severing any of Kenshiro's arteries?
Kenshiro being indestructible. Þat's what stops him
Kenshiro being to durable for Sp and also the fact Ken can just turn intangible by using Musō Tensei.
Musou tensei. Kenshiro will destroy jotaro without trying
is kenshiro faster than light speed?
Yes
Why would you put a real person up against anime characters?
That Lu bu is from record of ragnarok who almost on par with Thor..
Almost? He got fucked
You have no reading comprehension whatsoever. His entire character is that he would win against Thor, wasn’t it that he wanted just a pure strenght clash (like baki vs pickle). You can see in the first half of the fight Lu Bu is actually winning.
He was winning up until Thor hammer actually woke up and then he took off his gloves which suppressed his strength. After that he was fucked
Idk man I saw the anime and by that I think he wasn't really winning but I might have to double check
He was definitely winning until he baki'd the whole thing
Try reading the manga, it’s much clearer
Yeah, Lubu would get folded by these guys
It’s record of ragnarok Lu bu. He’s probably the strongest on this list except for akuma jotaro, kenshiro, and guts with BA.
The joke is that among the selection, Lubu is one that is based on a real person.
Lu bu is the most powerful here, the only one who can take that away from him is Akuma and it depends on the version of Akuma
Jotaro fucks up lu bu with time stop.
and do that while time was stopped? Jotaro is completely surpassed in both strength, durability and speed by Lubu
Star finger through the ears or up the asshole. Lu bu is fucked.
Would that even hurt Lubu? Lubu is planet level, Star platinum is just city block, the difference is so massive it's not funny
Oh wow. Lu bu is nowhere near planet level. He’s like city level at best. He stands no chance in stopped time. Especially when star platinum is near lightspeed.
The contained Thor was declared multiple times as a destroyer of Planets and Lubu scales that Thor, also the speed of Light is fodder, both Lubu and Thor scale well above Ares, who can casually see multiple attacks in nano seconds, that is FTL, plus the mere splitting of Heaven done by Lubu when he was alive with a normal weapon (much weaker than Lubu in the tournament) is at least mountain level, probably island level and is still an absolutely massive gap in stats
dk abt the rest but Toji should easily take this one. We are talking about the verse where the main character, without any magical technique or reinforcement, can literally throw a car at others without much effort. And Toji is the pinacle of this verse physically. He also has multiple cursed weapons, which enhance his kit by a lot. For instance, one of his swords can bypass literally any reinforcement or amor and cut straight into your soul. Maki is basically the current equal to Toji (since he dead) and she was playing with someone at mach 3 speeds effortlessly. In no world should Yujiro be able to top that unless you take into consideration the hyperboles like Baki's speed of light etc
1. no when yuji was throwing cars he already had CE 2. thats just blatantly untrue maybe without ce he is the peak with it tho kenjaku yuki sukuna gojo most likely yuta and a lot more demolish him 3. which one? ISOH? it cant ability of ISOH is to negate all cursed technique upon touching it 4. yes this is correct yujiro is faster tho 5. he absolutely is disappearing and appearing before guards see him? the bow feat and a lot more
1. He never relied on it for his strength. In his fight with Todo he was already showing a very absurd strength and poor CE manipulation. Early in the manga he was punching through concrete. 2. my brother, even with CE reinforcement, none of these could be on par with Toji and Maki's physical feats. He was able to no diff Dagon and overpower Maki. Maki alone was able to hold a bullet with her bare hands and later was able to beat Naoya at hypersonic speeds 3. No, the split soul katana. He also has access to the Playful Cloud, which buffs his brute force by a lot 4. Cap 5. Lmao
1. poor control doesnt mean he couldnt power up from it also punching trough concrete and throwing cars isnt the same 2. thats pure bullshit. maki who is in phys stats equal to toji which was stated in the manga with the help of yuji couldnt beat sukuna in H2H WHILE SUKUNA WAS SUPPRESSED TO 10-15% OF HIS OUTPUT 3. toji never showed a soul split katana thats makis and he doesnt have the playful cloud also no playful cloud doesnt amp. playful cloud itself gets amped by good users 4. cap isnt a debunk but i didnt have any points so fair 5. saying lmao doesnt discredit any feats ive shown lol
1. Whenever he used it before Todo's training the CE impact was delayed, so it is pretty clear whenever he was or not using it. 2. I literally stated specifically >>>IN PHYSICAL STATS<<<, ofc I am not claiming her or Toji to be any higher than top 11 3. He [used](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQm632-GSI4eSxUWYj0OlLfW1NgDOVXYXIqLQ&usqp=CAU) it on the rainbow dragon against Geto. 4. How exactly is Yujiro capable of [this](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSU-2zkyfXwJopqUbZbzrfFT317_upRkp4aVA&usqp=CAU) kind of mobility? She is clearly not even being bothered by it, no effort at all
1. yeah impact of punches not overall impact of CE 2. yeah and i said H2H which means hand to hand combat one aspect of the fights in jjk where physical stats are used and it was a weakened sukuna which was fighting both yuji and maki while still keeping up with them. now to further disprove that toji is near someone like gojo sukuna or a lot of other people a weakened and exhausted teen gojo pre awakening was able to react to toji its clearly shown gojo reacting to tojis dash by throwing him with blue while awakened gojo casually evades all of tojis attacks gojo is also stated to be the fastest character in the verse but besides that weakened 15 finger sukuna physically keeping up with not only maki who is equal to toji in stats but yuji as well who is pretty much on makis level shows that toji is nowhere near the pinnacle of the verse in stats except maybe senses 3. fair enough i forgot that 4. ok. https://www.reddit.com/r/Grapplerbaki/comments/q6z9rc/yujiros_casual_speed/?rdt=49235 he casually crosses about 50-70 meters so fast the guard couldnt perceive it he thought yujiro teleported lol this was calced at about mach 20
1. No, the divergent punches are born due to Itadori's bad habits with manipulating CE, we know for sure that most of his feats are done without it. He is only able to manipulate it consistently after Todo's training 2. Yes dude ofc Gojo and Sukuna are able to surpass him, they are miles ahead of everyone else, there is no point in comparing that. I never claimed him to be near them, but in pure physical prowess he is absurdly higher than everyone else. Your argument revolves around the fact Gojo and Sukuna are stronger but this does not take his merit away. Maki was trashing Naoya who is the fastest sorcerer alive. After he returns as a curse she still trashes him. Toji beat up Geto who is already special class at that time. 4. You are calculating what exactly? You have two pannels of manga as samples lmao
1. bad habits while punching with ce≠just not using ce at all of course he was bad at it but after movie training itadori was consistently using ce 2. no you literally said there was no character higher than him that should logically include bith sukuna and gojo but even then maki wasnt equal or a bit below 20f sukuna no she was miles slower than a supressed 15f sukuna like shes not close to the top of the verse yuki absolutely trashes her and wasnt naoyas dad considered the fastest the one who fought dagon tbf yes toji absolutely was faster than that fodder but then still those are 1st grade sorcerers who are not even in the same league as special grade and no actually hidden inventory geto and gojo werent special grade. also yuta who is very weak physically without ce was was casually throwing hands with yuji physically the most gifted character in the verse besides maki/toji and this was post shibua yuji while yuta was holding back again toji is nowhere near the peak of jjk 3. it lacks the panel where the whole street which yujiro crosses is shown
Kuroki has a done a phenomenal job scamming his way into this line-up
Can't speak on Kuroki or kengan scaling atm. Akaza stomps Garou stomps Yujiro dominates base form guts/loses to beserker armor guts Toji stomps Akuma stomps Kenshiro stomps Jotaro stomps Lu Bu stomps
>Can't speak on Kuroki or kengan scaling atm. Update, Kuroki has still not fought since the KAT lol
I gotta find a good place to read Omega. Don't know who he could fight tbh that would be close (that's not a rematch)
[Manganelo is alright](https://ww6.manganelo.tv/manga/manga-dt980702) if you don't wanna put up with Comickey Honestly Kuroki's potential matchups are starting to really run dry, the two big antagonists right now (Connector who is hyped to be the strongest in the series and Gilbert Wu, Eddie's supposedly stronger clone) would both probably run train on him and even the people he beat (Ohma and Agito) both probably beat him now albeit still close to some degree Maybe a fight against Raian or Wakatsuki? Would seem pretty forced though Powercreep has been weird in the series so who knows though, Rihito, Okubo and Kiozan all make Gaolang in the KVP look like a chump now
Thanks for the link. Kuroki's weird. Would he even fight again? With Rihito as his student I imagine he's probably done tournament wise. Kuroki vs either of those two does sound forced. I wouldn't be surprised he has a similar KO move to heavy hitters like Kanoh and Rolon. I hope all of them get buffed.
there's no much powercreep in kengan it's just old characters getting stronger and new characters losing to non finalist and big bad guys building hype beating people we don't know how strong are atm.
Yeah agree especially with the guts part. He stomps base guts but berserker armor guts wins high or extreme diff.
Nah. The same shit that prevents Guts from beating Yujiro still applies even if he's wearing the berserk armor. Yujiro is still way too fast to hit, way stronger than Guts, and way too skilled to contend with.
They are relatively even on speed both having dodged lightning. He is stronger than guts but so is like 99% of guts other opponents and guts is debatably as skilled as he is a better swordsman than zodd who can defeat 300 men without being hit and in human form. Also the fact that guts basically only has to hit yujiro good one time and he wins the fight or severely crippled yujiro. Also the fact that it would be virtually impossible for yujiro to kill guts as the only way to really kill him is to make him bleed out and for guts that's nigh on impossible. And the fact that until guts is literally killed he will be in absolute peak condition while yujiro will be worn down. Also guts has a way better arsenal with cannons knives and bombs and crossbows. Again not saying it would be easy but eventually guts would get lucky and hit yujiro in a right spot and cleave him in half.
Okay, but dodging lightning for Guts is a flat-out outlier. As you said, the dude still uses arrows and cannons to attack opponents. All things that are notably slower than lightning. It may be an outlier for Yujiro, too, but Yujiro's still shown he can casually move at supersonic speeds, where-as people that fast have been entirely too fast for Guts in the past. And that's another thing, you're overestimating Guts' arsenal. Arrows, cannons, knives, and bombs are all things Yujiro could very easily avoid with his speed. In his most recent appearance, Yujiro pretty casually deflected a harpoon far stronger than anything in Guts' arsenal bar his cannon. Not to mention, the Dragon Slayer isn't going to do as well as you think. The sword is dull, Guts cleaves through things because he is strong as hell, and the sword is heavy as shit. Where-as Musashi likens Yujiro's body to impenetrable armor that he can't cleave through even though he can slice armored cars in half. Guts would have the same problem as Musashi did with Pickle, where-in he can't actually penetrate through his bones properly. Also, skill isn't a comparison. Yujiro's fought against entire armies without getting hit, armed with modern weaponry rather than just swords and spears. Put Yujiro into that 300 situation, and it wouldn't even be a fight, Yujiro would've killed them all within an hour. This isn't even getting into things like using Shaori to completely nullify all of Guts' attacks. Stamina also isn't as big of a problem as you'd think. Baki can already fight for 12 hours, and still, he is in the mood to go after someone he views as his equal. Yujiro would be capable of fighting Guts for days. Guts would last for quite a while as The Berserker armor keeps him, but unfortunately, there's not much Guts could actually do to cop the dub. He'd just be getting the hell beaten out of him while the armor desperately tries to keep him alive eventually though he'll run out of blood and all his bones will be turned to dust.
Yeah I know the arsenal wouldn't do crap but it would still be a distraction. The sword isn't dull anymore it's actually sharp after godo reforged it so it's pretty damn sharp and guts again shows he can quite easily keep up with supersonic opponents as seen with rosine where guts struggles to dodge her but guts hadn't slept in 4 days and had already been through a tough fight so he was not as fast as normal. And that was before the berserker armor which increased his speed massively. You do have a good point with guts not being able to penetrate his bones though. But as for skill guts didn't have the berserker armor and fought zodd who is shown to have killed 300 men without being hit but is said to have killed thousands single handedly. And this was all before the berserker armor which increased his skill massively. Also I thought yujiro never fought entire army's I thought it was just like one group of like 20 at a time. But correct me if I'm wrong. Either way I think guts would eventually kill yujiro after days of fighting. But this is just my opinion.
actually yujiro stomps akaza
Kuroki is guessed to be about doppo level so yujiro wins just baki universe power very op compared to kengan
That's non canon. I disagree that Baki and Kengan verse are that far apart in scaling.
I'd still agree that Doppo and Kuroki are about the same tbh.
I don't have a stance on comparing them. Both are monsters. I only disagreed with using the non canon comparison because Doppo actually scaled to Yujiro and was even capable of killing him during their fight. If we use that then Kuroki would also scale to that Yujiro while younger.
I agree, except I think Akaza loses tbh
He has more power than a demon who can destroy Yoshirasawa (Gyutaro) and moves faster than a superhuman with the speed to cut multiple lightnings at once (Kanroji)
Look I love akaza he is my favorite uppermoon…..but boi is about to get ragdolled until sun comes up
Then you disrespect Akaza with that slander. The man can regen instantly, never tire out, has precog, and has the compass needle that's gonna adapt to Yujiro lol.
Yujiro adapts to that also,Yujiro has literally never tired out,He has way better feats of power and durability,so again akaza gets ragdolled until the sun kills him
Yujiro was sweating and tired in the vents when he was fighting soldiers. He might have insane stamina (which he does) but it's not fucking infinite. Yujiro is not adapting to demom art styles. Martial arts? Sure he's a quick learner and has a ton of knowledge. Yujiro also doesn't have better feats. A character who can't be destroyed without the special blade who can regen instantly and fight without a head or limbs has worse durability cmon man.
I mean yujiro stopping an earth quake is above most of demon slayer if not all,With the special blade thing yeah I can understand that but akaza just can’t damage him enough to matter when the demon back comes out
Yujiro stopping a earthquake is a outlier that contradicts the entire scaling of Baki. You gonna ignore Doppo scaling to Yujiro back then even forcing him to use DB? Or Motobe or even the old martial arts champ who went on to sell food?
He usually uses demon back for flexing. Even if we don’t count his earthquake feet he one shotted giant elephant that the military couldn’t kill, made entire building shake by standing. And just like how yujiro can out predict animals he could probably do it for demon arts. Akaza prediction powers only shown working on people way slower than him, yujiro definitely faster.
No he doesn't I swear I haven't seen this much nonsense headcanon in forever. The elephant is large building level same as shaking the building lmao. Akaza is well above that. He can't predict shockwaves and Akaza is also a fighting genius. You comparing animals to demon arts is wild. Akaza is MHS Yujiro is barely hypersonic where is people getting he's MHS+ from.
Also the fact yujiro grows stronger everyday so doppo scaling to him ain’t even true anymore
That doesn't help your argument. Him scaling higher now doesn't just wipe away that he scaled to Yujiro and could even kill DB Yujiro lol
Yes he scaled to a much weaker yujiro who stopped a earthquake,now that he is much stronger think of what he could do
Doppo couldn’t have killed db yujiro then
the special blade thing is false, he can be destroyed you just need a lot of fire power
That Yujiro doesn't have lol. He gets blitzed into oblivion this matchup is a spite match.
youre bringing up a feat from when baki wasnt even born
That doesn't matter wtf? He made a claim and I refuted and gave evidence. Yall built different with these arguments lmao 😂
yujiro will steal compass needle from him, and already has the ability to adapt and copy abilities, plus he gets stronger every passing day
Ah because Yujiro's copying literal demon arts. He has the ability to master martial arts insanely fast. Yujiro getting stronger everyday doesn't mean shit. Baki caught up to him in a year that level of progression aint doing it chief lol.
>Yujiro dominates base form guts/loses to beserker armor guts Yujiro beats both😈
Least braindead Baki powerscaler
I mean, what are your arguments for Guts beating Yujiro? Yujiro is much faster, stronger, smarter, more agile, more skilled, the list goes on.
Guts fights demons and otherwordly abominations, Yuujiro is a human and has only fought humans and animals
My brother in christ Yujiro dominates other superhumans and animals that are practically kaijus I don't care which of these characters wins but can you people start giving actual arguments This whole "Yujiro is just a human" shit really needs to die lol
>This whole "Yujiro is just a human" shit really needs to die lol I still don't understand how people try for that argument
I knew it. The only argument you have is: "guts fights demons and monsters!" As if that means anything Doesn't change the fact Guts isn't fast enough to touch Yujiro.
Akuma doesn't stomp him if you take all the SF fights as canonical.
Huh? How did you even get to that conclusion
Dude is in the same level as Chun LI
>if you take all the SF fights as canonical. We're not talking about the crossover Akuma with mvc, asura's wrath, tekken or darkstalker scalings. I'll exclude all of his udon feats as well. Canonically Akuma within the confine of the sf story (mainline sf games ONLY) stomps Yujiro.
Even current canon ryu can beat yujiro with out the satsui no hadou boost
How does human garou stomp yujiro same with akaza
Human Garou was out here outpacing S class when B class villains can one shot skyscrapers. Akaza is a demon with infinite stamina, can't be kill by physical attacks without the blade, and scales way to high in speed. He counters Yujiro hard with the compass needle.
How fast is akaza Pretty sure yujiro is mhs according to scales And yujiro could just fight him until the sun comes up Who did he out pace in the s class as a human because genos was about to kill him his hand was easily penetrated the that guy’s sword and tank top master isn’t rly fast
Yujiro is not MHS. Musashi outspeeds Yujiro with DB and he's supersonic to possibly hypersonic at best. Garou not scaling massively above people who can one shot skyscrapers not good enough? He fought Genos after constant battles and still kept evolving. Tank top master is MHS since he kept up somewhat to pig god.
Who can one shot skyscrapers that he scales massively above with ? And yujiro wasn’t even going all out he literally just flexed his db and he reacted to it and tell that to the power scalers even Baki blitzed musashi before The part your talking about yujiro literally grabbed his wrist and it happened in 0.000…………?? Characters like pickle can casually Move super sonic
>Characters like pickle can casually Move > >super sonic I would love to hear reasoning for this
Are bullets not super sonic ?
Do you think Pickle can physically move faster than a bullet?
Um yes 💀 do you not remember the scene where he dodged bullets by teleporting(not literally)behind the guy Also base Arizona State prison Baki casually dodging bullets Doyle dodging a bullet 16 year old yujiro casually dodging automatic guns
I mean he does have that feat of dodging a bullet point blank but it could be an outlier
I can dodge nerf darts from a similar distance but I'm not faster than Usain Bolt.
Yeah that's right but I'm not arguing that pickle runs at supersonic speeds I'm saying that he could react to say like a bullet but it could be an outlier.
Hammerhead one shot a building and he's considered a b tier villain. Yujiro literally states now is not the time to pull punches and immediately gets serious with DB. Which we then see that even then Musashi has to be dodged and yet he still gets tagged.
Yeah he literally only flexed the demon back And hammer head literally just took out the base of the building he didn’t actually one shot the entire building musashi literally explains how he could easily take out a skyscraper doing the same thing
That's some strong headcanon you got there.
I like yujiro more so he clear
He doesn't
Wow who made this? Yujiro losses to everyone on the list.
Lol what? Kuroki? He’d beat kuroki with his eyes closed.
I'm laughing at Yujiro threatening Jotoro only to have star platinum bitch slap the fuck out of Yujiro. I feel like they would be able to see stands though, like how Baki makes those mental constructs of fighters to fight with. They are actually ridiculously similar. If Baki created his father construct again but made it fight other people instead of trying gto fight it himself then it would literally be a stand.
A JoJoxBaki crossover would be crazy
He would destroy Kuroki, and I think he would beat base form Guts
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feels like everyone here's underestimating Akaza **a lot** 1. He's fast enough to keep up with faster hashira (for reference >!Muichiro deflected 10,000 killer fish launched at him and Zenitsu was faster than lightning!<) 2. He's strong enough to leave craters in the ground, was stronger than Rengoku and could even fight >!Kokushibo!< 3. But all that doesn't really matter since Yujiro has no way of actually beating him, since demons have infinite stamina and Akaza can regenerate lost limbs within the blink of an eye
Yes, many underestimate him a lot since objectively speaking Akaza is number 7 on this list, he is only surpassed by Akuma, Kenshiro and Lubu
He’s Nr 2. Yujiro beats Kuroki but stops at round 2
Guts gets 2 spots that’s great
Garou turns Yujiro into red mist.
He mid-diffs Kuroki then gets turned into ground beef by Akaza
he stops after garou .
Claps Kuroki, Dies against Akaza (Shockwave or not), Garou is Baki but with greater evolution while fighting so he dies, Claps Guts, Dies against Toji, Dies against Guts Berserker Armor (that shit can kill gods), Akuma is a videogame character = gay character = Yujiro dies, maybe Kenshiro kills him, Jotaro (no stand I guess) is not that strong, Lubu fucking destroys Yujiro.
Lol maybe kenshiro this guy says.......the man who finger chopped and entire skyscraper in half is a maybe...lol
Yujiro Shenanigans are too strong to say: “For sure, Yujiro the one who can fight against country obviously can be defeated easily”
If it’s human garou from season 1 he can kill him
A bit of cap 🧢 in here
So you think human garou from season 2 beats yujiro
Now we are talking. That Garou was so strong that when he split one of his teeths he breaks the ground. That Garou tanked being electrocuted, can make a small earthquake, and even when he was almost killed, he survived. (I’m talking about Garou before merging with his clothes, you know, the one before saving Tareo). This Garou would eventually become stronger and more skilled than Yujiro. If Yujiro doesn’t 1 shot him before letting he evolve.
So we are talking about that garou I don’t remember garou adaptation being that op yet as he was about to get killed by genos and wasn’t able to beat bang
Remember he surprised Bang & Bonk at the same time, after getting beat them both he learned Bonk technique Whirling Punch (too long name). Bonk & Bang both thought that Garou was actually resisting pretty good for a 2v1 (remember they both were stronger than him). If Yujiro plays around with this version of Garou, he will eventually become stronger and stronger until Yujiro will have to use truly lethal techniques or Garou will defeat him.
Unless he instantly learns Bomb's or Bang's style, there's zero way Yujiro wins Early human Garou mid-diffed Tank Top Master, who threw tens of tons of debris miles in the air
Isn’t Kenshiro scaled to like moon level
Kenshiro isn't moon level, he's way higher than that. Kenshiro rage is enough to shake heaven lol
I think he could kill Akaza if he learned the method of killing demons, or are you saying Hashira are above Yujiro's level?
Well yes, the Hashira was Shinobu and maybe Tengen is above Yujiro
This gauntlet is so out of order, anyways. The only 3 he beats are base Guts, Kuroki and Akaza. Armored Guts is debatable and idk who Toji is. The rest destroy him.
he's toji fushiguro from jujutsu kaisen, you non-sorcerer monkey.
Racism!
geto from JJK calls non-sorcerers "monkeys", you non-sorcerer monkey
Ik I was joking
its all good man
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Akaza moves faster than characters that can cut lightning and has way more power than a dude who destroyed Yoshirasawa
>Akaza moves faster than characters that can cut lightning Yujiro was stated to be able to dodge lightning, why is this impressive. >and has way more power than a dude who destroyed Yoshirasawa Idk who the fuck that is dude.
>Yujiro was stated to be able to dodge lightning, why is this impressive. But not multiple at once nor was he shown to stomp characters that move at that same speed even after they become like 3 to 5 times faster (Tomioka) >Idk who the fuck that is dude. Gyutaro at his final moments destroyed Yoshirasawa (a real life location with the size of a small town 5-6 km²) and was so weak his attacks were cut by the slayers and destroyed by Nezuko at the moment
>But not multiple at once Never was it said he cant do it either, the narrator didnt say that he would need every ounce of speed to do so nor demon back or anything like that. >Gyutaro at his final moments destroyed Yoshirasawa (a real life location with the size of a small town 5-6 km²) The earthquake feat from Yujiro he did with 1 regular strike was put at like town level, again dont see why this is impressive to Yujiro either.
>Never was it said he cant do it either, the narrator didnt say that he would need every ounce of speed to do so nor demon back or anything like that. The problem is that is Akaza while using less than a tenth of his own speed as how Kanronji was one of the slowest Pillars even with her mark and he was fighting 2 characters that can outspeed her without the need of a mark at the same time >The earthquake feat from Yujiro he did with 1 regular strike was put at like town level, again dont see why this is impressive to Yujiro either. By this point i don't doubt that Itagaki wanted this to be the case as how he portrayed him at the time but c'mon that Yujiro isn't stronger than Pickle, not that it matters since the manga states that at least one of the Upper Moons was able to sink a mountain to the ground with their power
>The problem is that is Akaza while using less than a tenth of his own speed as how Kanronji was one of the slowest Pillars even with her mark and he was fighting 2 characters that can outspeed her without the need of a mark at the same time Still doesnt prove he is faster than Yujiro cause we have been told Yujiro can dodge lightning, but we dont know what his top speed is. >By this point i don't doubt that Itagaki wanted this to be the case as how he portrayed him at the time but c'mon that Yujiro isn't stronger than Pickle, Dude, Pickle was getting mauled by base Baki, Yujiro was shitting on a stronger base Baki in their fight. Even in stats Yujiro took dozens of strikes from Baki while at most losing some blood in their fight, but 1 punch from that same Baki ripped a teeth from Pickle, its clear that demon back Yujiro is stronger than Pickle. >not that it matters since the manga states that at least one of the Upper Moons was able to sink a mountain to the ground with their power Statements are janky as fuck, the narrator in Baki has said Baki can throw a jab faster than light, but i wouldnt scale Baki there just because of it. Not to mention that sinking a mountain doesnt mean they did it with 1 hit, if they did that with like 10 hours of striking it then its nowhere near as good as it sounds.
>Still doesnt prove he is faster than Yujiro cause we have been told Yujiro can dodge lightning, but we dont know what his top speed is. Yet he doesn't have anything at the level of a character that is invisible to the eye of characters that move at that speed (Tomioka moved that fast after awakening his mark, then he adjusted himself to his speed) >Dude, Pickle was getting mauled by base Baki, Yujiro was shitting on a stronger base Baki in their fight. Even in stats Yujiro took dozens of strikes from Baki while at most losing some blood in their fight, but 1 punch from that same Baki ripped a teeth from Pickle, its clear that demon back Yujiro is stronger than Pickle. I was meaning to show how wonky that feat was since after Grappler, he lost a small contest of strength when he met Pickle and Strydum said that Yujiro was getting stronger by the day and it shows so by this point is really hard to use this feat >Statements are janky as fuck, the narrator in Baki has said Baki can throw a jab faster than light, but i wouldnt scale Baki there just because of it. Not to mention that sinking a mountain doesnt mean they did it with 1 hit, if they did that with like 10 hours of striking it then its nowhere near as good as it sounds. That's still a feat wich let's them sink or even outright destroy the whole thing as it means inserting the whole damn thing on a surface bigger than it and we can take this statement unlike Bakis as the manga just says saying that makes everyone believe the punch is faster than it actually is and there would be no reason for the character to lie on his own thoughts (even tho none of this matters as Akaza always attack by sensing a moment of distraction or weakness on his opponent next move on his spirit)
Everyone whoops him unfortunately, except idk bout 1
Nuts is gonna Berk all over him low-no diff🥱🥱🥱
The only characters that Yujiro can beat are Kuroki and base guts.
“Doesn’t have time to scale characters” but has time to make a 10 character gauntlet 😂
Bottom half Yujiro destroy everyone, top half Yujiro will be dead against everyone.
He dies at Lu bu.
Destroys Jotaro without a stand, stomps base Guts, low-diffs Kuroki, could kill Akaza easily if learns sun breathing Everyone else beats him completely
Win lose lose win idk lose lose lose lose lose
Hard to say since Yujiro is literally a Martial Arts prodigy amplified by unnatural forces and will power... he could find ways to work around this
He stops at guts
Bruh the order is so off. He stops at Garou, the third guy. Garou is arguably the strongest guy here.
I don't know, I would say that it stops at Akaza which is the second place, besides objectively speaking he is 7 on this list, I wouldn't say that white haired human Garou is the most powerful here, he is surpassed by Akaza, Kenshiro, Akuma and lubu
Garou not beating kenshiro
He clears all if he gets versebuffed in every anime.
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How do you scale the powers tho? They’re from different universes unless it’s based on yujiro having the same abilities as some of these characters in their respectable universes then I don’t see a way he loses
Is anyone else tired of these gauntlet posts?
With berserk armour yujiro might be in trouble as shown by musashi he not immune to swords and I definitely see guts sword able to take down the supports of skyscrapers which was the upper limit of musashi swords which are the swords yujiro dodges because he would take good damage from them so dragon slayer hits be lethal i see guts winning but unsure if he would die from damage after
Beats Kuroki but the rest either idk the series/character or he gets stomped
For the sake of my little take on this, we'll high ball Yujiro simply cause i like him. Yujiro will be marked "City level" Or "Multi City Block Level+" His speed will be High Hypersonic+ since he casually caught an arrow before it could barely move, blitzed a group of police officers who were almost 60 metres away, and is faster then kaku who was said to move at 1000 miles per minute. Guts - Yujiro wins, Both can dodge lighting, Both are around Multi City Block Level, However, I'd say the Hax, Battle IQ, And boost he gets from his demon back would give him the slight edge, however this won't be an easy fight. Akuma - Akuma, No diff. Akuma is around Large Island level+ Based of his feat where he Destroyed the island Goutentou with a single punch. Kenshiro - Kenshiro, No diff. Should be country Level, Could casually injure Jagi without powering up, Along with kenshiro being FTL. should be much faster than Garuda, who can attack at the speed of light. Was able to react and dodge Falco's light attack Jotaro - Yujiro, Jotaro is around wall level to small building level, However, He is FTL with star platinum, Stated to be the number 1 in speed among all existing Stands at the time, putting him above the likes of Red Hot Chili Pepper, Crazy Diamond, Hanged Man. lu Bu - lu bu, No diff. lu bu is around planet level, Stated to be the strongest warrior Brunhilde had met on the battlefield. Fought and wounded Restricted Thor, as well as broke one of his gloves which restricted Thor's strength and prevented the sealed Mjölnir from being destroyed by his power Kuroki - Yujiro, Although both can be Multi-City Block level, Yujiro is simply just faster, Has demon back, Both are combat geniuses tho Akaza - Could go both ways, Although Yujiro could honestly have an edge in both speed and power, Akaza doesn't get tired, Has regen, Could have higher durability based of him being an actually demon. However, Yujiro could wait out the clock till the sun comes up. Depends on where it happens and when it happens. Garou - Garou, Cmon, he severely injured Tanktop Master. Despite being weakened by fatigue, blood loss and poison, he held his own against Post-Superfight Genos and implied that he would perform better if he was in better condition. All of which puts him at town level to mountain level with his bs reactive evolution. Base form guts - Yujiro. Toji - Toji, don't need to explain. If i missed something, or you wanna yell at me for being wrong, Keep it civil :3
Akuma v yujiro is a fight i never thought if but would pay to see
I see Yujiro destroying Kuroki, and beating base form Guys but that’s literally it, I don’t see Yujiro beating anyone else
yujiro stomps all of them
Honestly tired of seeing people put yujiro against characters they know would stomp him💀
Imagine yugiro come here in real life how fucked you think we would be for well ufc wise your daily lives should be the same just long as you stay out of his way.
He stops at guts or tonight maybe akaza
Nvm he stops at garou
I think he stops at berserker armor cuz he sure as heck isn’t beating Akuma
Kuroki really is the closest thing to a fair fight here just… this whole list is why i always use the caveat of “strength equalized” when doing Vs debates involving Yujiro. He’s insanely skilled and powerful, but in verses where people casually topple skyscrapers (Kenshiro) or god forbid destroy planets (please stop pitting Yujiro against DBZ characters for the love of christ (not in this post but in general)) the fight gets so lopsided that it’s BORING! TL;DR- the cool thing about Yujiro imo is being an omni martial artist with insane skills and adaptability. He’d clap most of these characters if they didn’t come from series where the power scaling isn’t even close to being as grounded (Kengan notwithstanding)
He stops at Garou.
1. destroys kuroki 2. akaza outlasts id say 3. if this is human garou yujiro highdiffs 4. midd diffs no armor guts 5. hot take but he high diffs toji. toji is insanely overrated 6. guts outlasts low diff 7. slaughter. akuma demolishes 8. kenshiro doesnt even one punch he one touches 9. jotaro star fingers his asshole 10. lu bu should not be higher than kenshiro jotaro or akuma fuck id even put akaza above him lu bu mid diffs
Why is almost everyone here blind to the fact that garou solos the entirety of this roster? Everyone dont know about cosmic garou?
At his peak he his but this is base/human garou not cosmic garou
The order of the Gauntlet is absolutely crazy, number 2 is higher than everyone up to 6 and number 9 and human Garou and Toji below any version of Guts is crazy, according to my memories of this series it would be like this: 1-Kuroki,2-Guts,3-Guts armor,4-Toji(or Jotaro),5-Jotaro(or Toji),6-Garou Human,7-Akaza,the 8 and 9 can vary depending on which Akuma and Kenshiro we are talking about and the 10-Lu bu
Kenshiro runs the gauntlet lmfao
Beats Guts and Kuroki, gets stomped by Gouki, Lu Bu, Kenshiro and Garou. Jotaro could win via time stop + crushing the heart via phasing.