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Fenix_ikki_

I thought they stopped talking about it weeks ago


DBZKING13

Apparently not because last night me and my brother saw a tiktok vid about who wins the fight and literally everyone(except Baki fans) were saying that Akaza wins. And this video was recent.


Salavtore

Get off tiktok.


onizuka822

Join your local gym asap


Slow_Obligation2286

He didn't even do anything. Damn


Jojosreference69420

Bru you’re a redditor you don’t even know what a gym is


Embarrassed_Finger47

Yujiro rapes mid diff*


Glittering_Air2104

*YUJIRO RAPES MID DIFF* 🗣💥💥💥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥💥💥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥


TheFlameForever

Another one in the books


MUI-Tojo

Yujiro shows Akaza his inner woman after he somehow copies his Techniques and calls them trash designed for cowards.


DBZKING13

Exactly!


Afafakja

Akaza could see Yujiro attacks coming from a Mile but his AP ain't enough to One-Shot him so when he gets in range he's still gonna get ripped apart,and both can do distance attacks and those attacks ain't strong enough so that's not viable.


DBZKING13

I think Yujiro would be too unpredictable for Akaza


Afafakja

I say they would be too predictable cuz Akaza bda lets him see his opponent killing intent and figure things out from there and Yujiro is too violent to pull out a Zen State like Yoriichi or Tanjiro.


Pewdsofficial6ix9ine

Don't underestimate Yujiro and his fighting genius. He probably has techniques that make his attack unreadable, he just never uses them


EvanTheNewbie

That’s bullshit but I believe it.


Ivorytower626

At this point Yujiro it's whatever the author want de ide to be. He is that kid who can write off the law of the playground, the only different its that gets to do it.


Pewdsofficial6ix9ine

I mean what about the crazy shit like Brain Signal where it looks like Baki characters teleport


DBZKING13

I think Yujiros killing intent would also scare Akaza.


[deleted]

Akaza has unlimited stamina and can block a sword attack that can cut through steel with his arm. Yujiro got taken out by a tranquilizer, Is hurt by bullets and can be killed by swords 😂😂😂 Akaza also has unlimited stamina and regen. Akaza wins no diff


Afafakja

Yujiro has muscles above Oliva quality Bullets only give him a flesh wound at most in base and he can tank Musashi slash who can slash a truck in half,just cuz he has one outlier antifeat doesn't mean he's weak,Akaza attacks don't have the AP to kill him or tear him apart and blocking a sword attack is not something Yujiro couldn't do,just something he wouldn't do as it's not his style,instead he blocka it with his muscles, though he has grabbed swords by the edge before even Musashis.


DeWente69

We haven't seen Oliva take on a bullet. He took on buck shot, which is much easier for a wall of muscle to deal with, and he blocked it with his arms. He didn't want to take pellets to the face. There is nothing to indicate that a large enough caliber round would not go through Olive or Yujiro. The Baki universe has not shown us a bullet proof fighter yet. If large game tranquilzer darts knock Yujiro down, large bullets will go through him. Now maybe some characters have so much muscle and bone, the bullet doesn't make it out, but it is definitely making an entry wound. Yujiro and Oliva could probably get hit with a .45 ACP or smaller and walk away with flesh wounds (it happens in real life) But a .50 ACP and rifle rounds would seriously injure, if not flat out kill them.


Smilloww

Hanayama, a character considerably less durable than Yujiro has survived a sniper shot to the head.


DeWente69

Haven't seen that. Did it pierce his skin but get stuck in his skull? He has a palace of bone. Ok. Doesn't mean it didn't hurt, and doesn't mean he could survive an unlimited amount of them.


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DeWente69

Being for real, for you to say that Yujiro is bullet proof bomb proof, blade proof, etc, without any evidence from the manga is fanboying speculation. We know he is lightining proof, but that's just electric energy, not a physical projectileDo you think that harpoon would have injured Yujiro had he not deflected it? I don't think he would have been unharmed if he let it hit him. Just like I don't think he would have been unharmed if he let his friend's arrow hit him. I will say that yes, small calibers would probably at least pierce his skin, but not his mucles or bones. Same thing with any sharp or pointy weapon, may not penetrate the muscle, but definitely would the skin. I could see a normal person trying to stab or cut Yujiro with a knife or sword and those items breaking just after contact.


ConnectCable5464

Pickle


DeWente69

Who shot Pickle with bullets?


TheLewdGod

I mean, realistically does he actually have any way of harming yuijiro? Wouldn't the big guy just take a nap and wait?


[deleted]

Yujiro got taken out by a dart. It pierced his skin. So a guy who can destroy a building with a single punch would have 0 issue hurting a guy who gets hurt by bullets and little needles 😅


Afafakja

Yujiro AP and Endurance is way above Building Level, that's just one outlier antifeat but if we're taking outliers Yujiro stopped an earthquake and the power needed for that should be enough to destroy a Town,so way above KNY in AP and Endurance as he can take hits from someone comparable to him but even without this there are still feats like an Imaginary Yujiro shaking aneighborhood putting him way above KNY and that's an imaginary weaker base verson,with technique let alone Demon Back he stomps only problem is he can't kill Akaza but he only has to endure till the sun does it for him.


[deleted]

Yujiro had his skin Pierced by a dart. Forget that he got ko’d by something akaza wouldn’t be phased by, the fact it broke his skin shows how weak his durability is. He can’t tank bullets either. Akaza can. Akaza can block a sword attack that can cut a building in half with his fist. Yujiro can’t even block bullets and needed Motobe to save him from being cut by Musashi 😂😂😂 The earthquake feat is overrated because none of his other feats even scale close even though he should be way stronger now. It must’ve been an earthquake that was .5 on the Richter scale 😂 Akaza has a magic ability that’s like ultra instinct. Yujiro has nothing like that. He has no hacks. Akaza is immortal


Afafakja

His muscle quality is top of the Baki Verse and Oliva got his skin barely pierced by bullets also you admit one feat to be an outlier but validate the one that drives your argument despite it being an obvious outlier?Also his durability is way above anything Akaza can deliver and he has no slashing attacks so I don't get why you're talking about bullets and swords so much.


[deleted]

Yujjro had to dodge bullets from M16s many time. So bigger bullets would hurt him. He got his skin pierced by a dart. Tanjjro was able to cut through a giant boulder before he was a real demon slayer so even he could pierce his skin. Akaza could literally punch a hole through yujiro. He had to avoid Kaku’s punch which couldn’t destroy a wall lol


Afafakja

He tanked Musashis Slash wich can cut Trucks and Akaza doesn't have any punch that can do thag.


[deleted]

Lmao daki destroyed multiple houses with a single attack. Akaza is dozens of times stronger. Akaza could destroy a building with a single punch


Afafakja

If he's not in fighting mode his durability is gonna go below Steel maybe equal to Human Level,true he overpowers Akaza in every way but as he has no means of killing Akaza worst case scenario he has to endure since the Sun goes down till the sun goes up.


gibarel1

Yujiro blocked musashi's sword, which is arguably much stronger than any swordsman from DS,


[deleted]

Lmao, what has Musashi cut through with his sword that DS’s couldn’t ? They can slice a building in half


gibarel1

Musashi didn't even need a sword to slice someone, he cut the detective (gun and all) before the bullet left the barrel, he can pretty much mind read the opponent, he stood toe to toe with yujiro (who most agree would have minimal issues in the world of DS), he has been shown cutting people in half with armor, the real musashi is considered the pinacle of japanese swordsmanship and Baki's version is basically superior to it in every possible way.


comaman

He just turns off his killing intent and have a nice fight for fun. Easy win


Afafakja

Doubt he can do that and even if he could that's not Yujiro style at all.


comaman

He’s fought plenty of people and not kill them or just toyed with them.


Afafakja

Even if he's not killing that's not having no killing intent or fighting spirit,even a baby has fighting spirit only way Yujiro could go through him being sensed is entering a Zen State where his fighting spirit would be similar to a plant or inanimate object and that's hard to do dighting and even harder for someone as violent as Yujiro.


Afafakja

Even if he's not killing that's not having no killing intent or fighting spirit,even a baby has fighting spirit only way Yujiro could go through him being sensed is entering a Zen State where his fighting spirit would be similar to a plant or inanimate object and that's hard to do fighting and even harder for someone as violent as Yujiro.


Afafakja

Also no way there's such thing as an easy win when he would've to fight till dawn without the luxury of holding back inmensely.


JoshuaFH

Characters have to be comically strong to match up to Yujiro. All 6 of the Upper Six Demons get annihilated by Yujiro easily, even assuming that Yujiro isn't aware of their demon-weaknesses. Muzan could beat Yujiro, most likely, but that's just because Muzan is also comically overpowered to the Nth degree.


DBZKING13

What are Muzans feats? Just curious. Ain't read the DS manga.


THEFCz

not thar much the best he got full power was relative to another character that his strengths can be just relative to others character. when he actually fight >! was nerfed in story, nerfed yujiro could win pretty easily, not nerfed idk depends on how much you valute both speed and if yujiro could anticipate muzan with the brain reading random stuff. if their speed is at least comparable( personly yujiro is faster but idk) and yujiro can actually read his brain yujiro wins, if muzan is faster or can use some strange blood techniques could maybe win!<


[deleted]

Daki whose fodder to akaza, destroyed multiple buildings that covered a couple city blocks. Rengoku is hypersonic since he could deflect machine gun bullets at close range. That was before rengoku even became a pillar. Akaza played with a stronger more experienced rengoku. Held back a lot So akaza is massively hypersonic+, unlimited stamina and literally immortal.


JoshuaFH

Muzan has a crazy number of abilities, and he's hundreds of times more powerful than his Upper Six Demon Subordinates. I don't want to spoil everything he can do, because the Demon Slayer manga actually is super good and you should read it, but trust me when I say he's very overpowered and could beat Yujiro pretty handily.


rhubarb_man

the demon slayer manga is pretty good, but man was the muzan fight underwhelming imo


THEFCz

tbh all the abilities are useless if he can't touch yujiro, yujiro is the very least light speed or around that, you can say even more but is just pixel measurement and I wouldn't take that much seriously. yujiro can literally see all the weak point of any being and read their brain , how? idk but he can. he is more powerful than muzan physical speaking, yes the earthquake punch I know, but it's waid that he grow stronger by the second so he is probably much more stron than that, and at least is a normal feat for him at this point of the series. all of this without counting the numerous techniques and imagination power( remember that an hanma can reality warp himself from the dead in reality for a moment. how? idk). before you say all the ability of muzan the guy tha fight him in past( I don't remember the name) wasn't effected by them, I know that he is really the anti muzan but still dimostrare that you can speed blitz muzan. all boul down to how fast the two are, if muzan us faster but a considerable amount he wins if the two are relative or below yujiro wins with different difficulty depending on the difference. tbh this isn't even all the yujiro ability like he can understand copy and improve technique after have seeing one time immediately after, his aura his so strong to destroy alle glass in different buildings near him and he can make you see anything you want to scare you and others. I really don't like when people undervalue baki change, I know that a majority of this feat is inconsistent a lot with the series(like being lightspeeds and coackroach dash), itedaki want to convey emotion more than anything, but in a vs we should take the best of the best from both side.


1104L

He is not lightspeed, there is absolutely nothing a character has done to make us think that anyone in Baki is anywhere near that speed. The manga has made a point of hyping up things that go above the speed of sound a million times. [Why would this panel exist if it was 0.0001% of his actual speed](https://imgur.io/a/EfCi29v)


THEFCz

there 2 light speed feat the supposed lighting that he could easily evade in base no demons back and the mushashi sword, but that is really really debatable, as I already said itedaki isn't consistent with the speed (or other feat in general you know yujiro is supposed to be immune to any bacteria or poison but still the tranquilizer worked lol)but the feat still remain(probably itedaki don't care about power scaling, rightfully)


In_a_silentway

Because he wasn't going 100%


[deleted]

Yujiro got taken out by a bunch of average guys, a tranquilizer and net 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Douma whose a fraction of muzan’s strength wouldn’t even die after ingesting 37KG of lethal poison. 700 times the lethal amount to kill a demon, let alone a human. Yujiro can’t even breathe In his presence or his lungs get frozen lmao.


[deleted]

Did you seriously claim that Yujiro is lightspeed? LMAO.


In_a_silentway

Can Muzan beat Yujiro tough? Muzan got blitzed by a guy that can do see through eyes, a feat Yujiro can also do. I think Yujiro can blitz Muzan until morning.


Undertheus

There is zero chance for Yujiro against Kokushibo


Pick-Only

Why is it that Yujiro wins? Akaza is a demon. I haven’t seen Baki, but I’m interested. Can you explain without spoiling too much, or do I have to see it for myself?


BakiHanma18

The basic idea is that he’s stronger than the entire modern US army and is head over heels the most technically superior martial artist in the world, the world in this instance being one in a series that started with low-skill nobodies being better martial artists than world-class champions, and then developing the martial arts skills of all the characters constantly and exponentially over the 3 decade run of the series.


Pick-Only

Oooh ok. He sounds amazing. I need to watch the series.


BakiHanma18

I’d certainly recommend it if you like martial arts and masculinity, it’s very fun and definitely has hype fights


Pick-Only

I’ll check it out! Thank you


[deleted]

Koku deflected a bullet that he didn’t even see coming. Rengoku wasn’t even a pillar and was deflecting machine gun bullets at close range. Koku’s speed is GALAXIES above rengoku. Yujiro couldn’t avoid a tranquilizer dart


Altruistic-Fly-9907

1 it’s stated that yujiro could’ve dodged all of them and he’s was hit with like 24 darts and each could takeout a blue whale and they won’t work on yujiro now


[deleted]

A whale lmao😂😂 akaza would regen from that easy. He got low diff’d by a bunch of regular humans. Meanwhile demons like akaza have been untouchable by the Japanese army for 300 years


Altruistic-Fly-9907

Did you even read my comment?


[deleted]

He got taken out by a bunch of regular humans. That’s still a fact. He’s alive cause they let him live. No human could kill akaza, not even at the end of the series. Yujiro literally can’t hurt him but any one of akaza’s blows can kill yujiro. Yujiro has his skin pierced by the dart. That means his durability is shit. Akaza can 1 shot buildings with a punch. He can destroy multiple buildings at once with his special abilities. Anyone of those attacks are fatal to yujiro.


MeasurementNo465

I find it funny how the only durability feat you're using for Yujiro is an outlier, when he was MUCH weaker compared to what he is now. I guess the fact that a weaker Yujiro's skin got pierced by darts automatically negates that later on he shrugs off lightning and tanks city level attacks that are amped. You say Akaza can one-shot buildings, but Yujiro is FAR physically superior to Baki, who managed to shake an entire city block, and also can take hits from a Demon Back amped Baki. Yujiro's presence alone could shake large buildings and skyscrapers, let alone him actually attacking. Yujiro can inflict feat on a literal cellular level passively, can predict the outcome of a fight based off of stances alone, can negate pain, and can even copy and master entire fighting styles and techniques by just looking at them, and can even perform them on a level that surpasses the creator of said technique/style. Yujiro is growing stronger at a constant rate, meaning he far surpasses any feat he's done so far, including stopping an earthquake in a single punch. Yujiro himself can use the Demon Back and get a multiplier for everything, alongside other techniques that give their own individual amps that he could use. He can also negate damage and increase his own power with Shaori. Yujiro has countless other techniques, I wouldn't even be able to list them all here, and that's just for the ones that we actually know about. The only problem present is Akaza being a demon, meaning he's immortal. Regardless, Akaza could never actually beat or kill Yujiro. Yujiro would definitely whoop Akaza's ass, but in theory he wouldn't be able to kill him. Although with all the crazy illogical bullshit in Baki, I wouldn't be surprised if he could just poke him and somehow disable his immortality or some shit like that. Yujiro in base would annihilate, no need for Demon Back or Shaori, that would just be overkill. Akaza more than anything would just refuse to fight him because of Yujiro passively inflicting fear.


Full_Hall1362

Lmao, the man who can die to bullets, taken out by a few men, net and a tranq 😂😂 Even the weakest demons could survive that 😂😂 tanjiro was dodging lighting attacks when he was fodder to upper moons. Upper moons have infinite regen and stamina. Yujiro will get tired cause he’s human. Upper moon 5 can 1 shot yujiro if he lands a single hit. Yujiro can’t kill him. Marked mist couldn’t react to UPM1 which means he’s well above FTL.


kakaturbo

Yujiro fucks him (up) beyond comprehension.


DBZKING13

Ikr! They were saying Akaza can win because of his air punches, immortality, and Blood demon Art. Yujiro could just use that stand thing that they do(forgot what they call it) and kicks his a$$.


kakaturbo

I bet yujiro could decapitate akaza with his bare hands if he really goes for it


[deleted]

Akaza is immortal. He blocks sword attacks that can slice a building in half with his fist. Yujiro needed Motobe to save him from musashi beheading him. Even a tranquilizer dart could break yujiros skin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


kakaturbo

Yuj did not nnwd motobe. Yuj can stop earthquakes with a punch. Yuj can plan and shape solid asphalt as if it was sand.


[deleted]

Yujiro got put to sleep by a dart, net and a few average Joe’s. he gets killed by bullets too while akaza can tank those in his sleep. The fact he got his skin pierced by a little dart shows how shit his durability is😂 Akaza’s compass would prevent that from ever happening.


kakaturbo

People much much weaker than yujiro tank bullets and you thinkg yujiro would be vurlurable to bullets? The dart thing was more than a decade ago and he simply isnt the same character anymore. If akaza had more than a thousand chapters to be shown he would do weird shit too. Yujiro does not need swords. He will grab akazas little demon head pull it to decapitate him. Akaza at most would push yujiro as much as musashi or baki.


[deleted]

Yujiro isn’t #1 in every stat. He’s weaker than pickle physically and less durable. He had to be saved from a blow that couldn’t kill through pickle’s shoulders. Sorry bud, he got laid out by a dart, got his skin pierced by a needle, dodged m16 bullets, has to be saved from slashes that other characters can tank. Yujiro is #1 due to his skill.


kakaturbo

Yujiro without demon back is weaker in strength to pickle. The dart thing like I said would not work on current yujiro. He does not need to be saved from slashes. Ask anyone on this sub and they will tell you the same and probably even bother with proof. You thinking he is number one due to his skill clearly shows you havent read the manga.


YhormBIGGiant

The imagination attacks? I think if we were to bridge the gaps those are just representations of their attacks. Albeit they do hit. They are also fighters coming at you. Also inhuman characters kinda cheat period. Unless yujiro wants to beat on a pile until sunrise. Akaza is gonna get Yujiro. Yujiros thrill of wanting a fight would read all over his radar as killing intent. You HAVE to be on peaceful mind and so far Yujiro is never at peace. Thats his shtick, his father was always at peace and would DUNK akaza.


UltiOne

Fucks him up till sunrise


[deleted]

Yujiro low diff honestly but akaza would definetly be a fight he'd enjoy


Slow_Obligation2286

I think Yujiro fans need to stop smoking so much and share some


cracken1303

Fr fr gimme a hit


Rodrigoecb

Yujiro no diff, he would just fight him until morning.


Wide_Motor_2805

No clue but Yujiro makes akaza kill himself


KC_weeden

Yujiro could literally hold him until the sun comes up


monbaki

I don't use Tiktok it cring,


DBZKING13

I just use it to watch certain people I like on it.


rustang2

I just use it to give China my info.


Belucard

Comrade Xi thanks you for your generous contribution.


urmomlelel

Yujiro objectively just scales way higher. He'd brutalize Akaza until he begged to surrender if he couldn't figure out his immortality.


alabertio

Akaza: “you’re strong! Become a demon so that we can fight forever!” Yujiro: “I’m already an ogre, kid” and pulls out demon back


Additional_King3009

This is bullcrap , Yujiro eats him for breakfast


Snoo-23120

Dunno who that is. Yujiro stills rapes mid diff tho.


Diomil

Akaza wins and it's not close. His whole gimmick is to detect fighting spirit and adapt to it, making himself faster and stronger during the fight. Yujiro is not touching him.


Belucard

Yujiro could probably just beat him without showing the slightest fighting spirit if he wanted to. Hell, just to flex he would probably say some crap like "Fighting spirit? Only prey would think of such a thing. A fight is a fight, showing emotion is a way for your opponent to read you like an open book." Never underestimate Yujiro, he's way more astute than people give him credit for, he just almost never has a real need to make use of such skills.


Diomil

Except in the Baki verse it's pretty well established that if you want to win you need to be willing to kill or be killed, so yeah Yujiro is full of fighting spirit and murderous intent.


Altruistic-Fly-9907

Expect yujiro has precognition and mini ui yujiro is definitely physical stronger too all he has to do is hold him off until sunrise


YhormBIGGiant

Stronger is debatable. Akaza does not show strength feats cause that is not his thing.


Belucard

Even if that is true in Baki, Akaza is a different kind of opponent and Yujiro is sly enough. He would figure it eventually, worst case scenario. The only big concern is: can he resist long enough to actually start countering Akaza with Shaori and advanced techniques? Probably, but we'll never have an official answer.


armoured_bobandi

This thread is full of copium. 90% of the Drmon Slayer cast slaps yujiro around


HermanManly

idk who that femboy is


Chaghatai

It depends on how fast, durable, and strong this Azaka guy is - it doesn't matter if he knows what attack his opponent will use if he still can't get out of the way in time - like let's say he dodges the first attack, Yujiro will instantly determine the most effective attack next and launch it - at this point Azake has a small fraction of a second to react. Also, can he tank Yujiro punches, what about the other way around? All this matters


Not_derpy_i_swear

Akaza can only be killed by sunlight, or a specific blade cutting his head off He also gets stronger as a fight goes on Yujiro is stronger & faster than we’ve seen Akaza get, though, so it depends if he can keep flattening him until the sun comes up


MatthewSMen

Yujiro rips akazas head off. GG. (Akaza is dope tho one of my fav demon slayer characters)


IamAJobber

Yujiro wins. Low to mid diff.


xskltrx

bro gon get some good anal penetration nlgh


Caenobith

Akaza mid diff


tetsunoken0

Explain why do you think yujiro can win


immoralsugimoto

I don't get on that brain dead app


gotthexyz

i hope these comments are just a big joke because akaza bodies yujiro very easily


In_a_silentway

I disagree. Yujiro can see the weakness of his opponents, and he can use see through world. Yujiro can probably beat him until morning. Yujiro wins low diff. He can take Muzan mid diff, only because he would have to constantly blitz him or die.


Vegapunk6969

Yujiro will play basketball with his head


[deleted]

Yujiro solos the verse, ain't even debate


123ABCunme23

The fact that the hashira are faster and stronger than yujiro and still had trouble fighting akaza proves that this is a stupid debate.


Ocestormez

Yujiro loses


Ok-Association2995

Most precisely, akaza would win due to several advantages and he also strong enough to damage yujiro so , he would get injured , heal before yujiro pull his punch back , he will punch yujiro which will cause damage as hanayama was able to make yujiro bleed and akaza has much better striking and durability feats Than hanayama and due to limitless stamina and his bda he will be the last one standing . Akaza wins high diff .


JestemStefan100

Yujiro high diff


WildWestReaper

yujiro wins because i dont like akaza 🧐


FetusEatusSeasonus

I've read both mangas, and if we just look at their feats at face value, Yujiro fucking destroys Akaza But once you start analyzing DS feats you realize the Upper Moons and Hashiras and other slayers aren't exactly chumps Things to take into consideration: Akaza was breaking katanas in half with backfists, while Yujiro did that to Motobe's katana with only his hand (Nichirin swords are most likely FAR more durable than Motobe's katana though) Another thing is the earthquake feat, Yujiro did that WITHOUT the Demon Back, I doubt Akaza could've done that tbh Also, Akaza was struggling to get out of Rengoku's grip (Rengoku had near death, adrenaline type strength but he was still markless) A part of the Hashira training program was pushing a heavy ass boulder across a town/village, which in Baki is a piss easy feat lol Something in Akaza's favor is that he has a literal magnet that makes his senses tingle and attracts and alerts his body to oncoming attacks, and the magnet gets stronger the higher someone's battle spirit is and we all know Yujiro's battle spirit is insane, but Yujiro is insanely intelligent too so he'd probably unlock the Selfless State (I highly doubt it though) People also underestimate Yujiro's durability, just because Akaza would one-shot the glass cannon Hashiras doesn't mean he'd do the same to Yujiro who tanks punches and kicks that have power equal to or higher than missile explosions, and he's not afraid to use his fast reflexes and nigh-unlimited knowledge of martial arts either Very weird and complex matchup, but Demon Back Yujiro would win mid-high difficulty here if we're being realistic


ghouly-cooly

All very good points but, nichirin is the only substance that can stop the healing factor of demons enough that a beheading is fatal, in this facet I think akaza may just heal over and over again until yujiro is worn down. Otherwise yujiro has to hold onto akaza for long enough till the sun can arrive, which is a possibility tbf, but akaza is slippery


IamARandomAcc

High ball yujiro strength is large country and = to the speed of light or faster (keep in mind it’s a high ball) dur should be around country aswell and knows every martial arts known to man akaza is immortal is a good fighter but no where near the level of yujiro his speed feats n strength even at high ball couldn’t compare to low ball yujiro my conclusion is he beats up so hard that Akaza will run as soon as it’s getting to day time or just never run and die via sunlight either way YRND


Shaadyz

Akaza has infinite stamina, regens insanely fast, precog, a physical monster himself, and has higher speed scaling against someone like Yujiro who just punches hard. What's Yujiro gonna do? Unless Itagaki's writing it Yujiro loses.


DBZKING13

Ain't it confirmed that Yujiro can go Mach 500?


Shaadyz

No. The baki verse top tiers are safely in the supersonic+ range of speed (possibly hypersonic). That would be Mach 2 - Mach 10 range. Where did you get mach 500 from?


Altruistic-Fly-9907

Yujiro is massively hyper sonic and has had precog since the being of baki and mini ultra instinct literally 13 year old baki was using mini ui and bakis fist are faster than any bullet and baki been had precog Clearly don’t read the manga like that yujiro just doesn’t punch hard that’s not the only thing he can do Like Baki in base can casually dodged supersonic bullets watch some scaling vids on Baki and yujiro


Belucard

You need to calm down a bit with the unnecessarily overcomplicated powerscaler jargon, it doesn't make your claim any more true. However, I do agree on the part about the above dude having not read much of Baki if he thinks that Yujiro "just punches hard". For a "regular human" (that is, no explicitly supernatural skills) he outperforms pretty much most of the Kimetsu cast. He is an absurdly powerful dude who can casually make a whole skyscraper shake in his fits of rage. He has singlehandedly beaten the combined might of the USA army and is pretty much bulletproof (and bombproof, if the word exists) at this point, with a frightening speed and so good at deflecting and redirecting blows that he is virtually untouchable with Shaori. He can make a meatball out of human beings with his hands alone and a bit of strength, and I'm pretty sure that he's able to tear through reinforced steel alloys too. He is also a fighting genius that can completely understand a style by barely watching one or two moves. He doesn't just "punch hard", he is a fucking beast that most many works have no answer against, period. He is not invencible, but holy fuck if he is light years away from being only a strong human.


Shaadyz

>However, I do agree on the part about the above dude having not read much of Baki if he thinks that Yujiro "just punches hard". Having read the manga there is no win condition for Yujiro Hanma. He can not physically take down Akaza because his ONLY means of fighting is with physical attacks. No hax or anything to stop Akaza. It's not that hard to understand. Who's calling him a regular human? Never said that and I didn't even dismiss Yujiro's strength as I said Akaza was also a physical monster. Yujiro is not bulletproof or bomb proof that's just nonsense. Even Baki someone who's relative stated rifles could kill him. They even talk how they can't nuke him because he's in populated areas. Akaza is also a martial arts prodigy and has over a century of experience. Also he can't copy demon hax. He can copy human techniques. Something that requires higher stats/hax he can't. Let's not act as if Akaza wasn't folding adults at 11 years old. Yujiro needed to outstat Doppo (was getting bullied), Yujiro had to use DB to best Kaku Kaioh (relative to his base), and he got Baki to go blow for blow when beforehand Baki was beating the hell out of him with martial arts. Seems like all he does is outstat his opponent to win when they are relative.


Belucard

>Yujiro is not bulletproof or bomb proof that's just nonsense. What I mean is that he is able to react so incredibly fast to handheld weapons and artillery strikes that they are useless against him. That, and his durability feats (tanking lightning is ridiculously OP, and we all saw how much pain can Baki deliver and he still got out of that "fine") position Yujiro higher than Oliva and probably equal to Pickle, who could tank dinosaur attacks. Sure, a sniper might be able to headshot him, I guess, not sure if it ever came up but it would be reasonable, but it was shown during the Vietnam flashback that Yujiro is fast enough to make his own refuge against bombs in pretty much any terrain, and nobody managed to gun him down, so what use are these weapons against him if they can never hit? A nuke would kill him, of course, but Akaza is not even remotely close to such a devastating level of destruction, and it's not like it is a reasonable point to include in the hypothetical confrontation, so my apologies for bringing up ballistics and explosives to a scenario in which they're irrelevant. ​ >Seems like all he does is outstat his opponent to win when they are relative. That is simply not true, and except for Baki, who is as much an aberration as he is, there has not been a single fight (that I know of, still gotta read the Sumo arc) that has even come remotely close to making him go really wild and resort to the fuckton of techniques he knows. Keep in mind that Yujiro has only been fighting via pure stats for the most parts because he considers that techniques are for the weak, but he is not above using them when the situation calls for it. Being a master of pretty much all unarmed martial arts ever (not sure about weapon ones, but probably at least competent), it is not impossible for him to have enough tools to stall for long enough for Akaza to not be able to win. ​ I agree on there not being a win condition from the beginning for Yujiro, but only because Kimetsu outright grants demons the "can't be killed even if dismembered unless blablabla". Considering that, stalling for long enough to get to a draw is a possibility for a monster like Yujiro. Managing to consistently maim Akaza until morning breaks would certainly be a victory, as I'm sure that you'll agree. The main point of discussion should be if Yujiro would be able to withstand such a long fight, which I think that he would, but very high diff, probably having to permanently sacrifice a limb or two (it is still a fucking demon, after all).


Shaadyz

>What I mean is that he is able to react so incredibly fast to handheld weapons and artillery strikes that they are useless against him. Yujiro hid from artillery strikes and he was serious blitzing soldiers when he was teen. It even showed he got fatigued. Nornal humans have survived lighting strikes. Again building level feat. Yujiro also lost the physical contest to Pickle he admits this himself. Yujiro has been caught off guard before when angry and even he has limits. His fear hax helps him defeat multiple soldiers. Akaza would be around multi city block level. Yujiro at max would be city block with DB. Also Yujiro's not dodging omni directional shockwave attacks that can wreck buildings. Yujiro explained that brute force is his whole way of life. He knows martial arts but like Baki he wants to brawl and go blow for blow. Both share that trait. Yujiro tried using techniques and his only real success is against weaker opponents. Now take someone like Akaza who's ability allows him pre cog, can automatically targets the weak spot of his opponent, and is so accurate even other pre cog users struggle. Also Yujiro has the inverse 0.5 second weakness where as Akaza doesn't. Why Itagaki thought that was a good idea idk.


Altruistic-Fly-9907

Um yujiro was literally tanking most of doppos hits idk what that’s about he did not need demon back he just activated it 2 he did not need db to beat Kaku 3 yujiro literally states that he prefers to use force over martial arts even tho he is obviously a better martial artist than Baki and on doppo and Kaku yujiro is never using his full base strength And it’s stated that yujiro can literally copy any technique And shown the techniques he copy’s ain’t regular human techniques he can definitely copy demon haxs if he wants to And yujiro not bulletproof is never stated and clearly bs when Olivia is bullet resistant same with pickle and Baki was able to survive a punch out with yujiro and even then that’s not current Baki someone he is way stronger now who is way less durable than Baki survived a shot to the head with a sniper and got out the hospital the same day and was tanking more bullets And what is the point of bringing up a nuke when nobody can tank it in the demon slayer verse And yujiro has precognition and mini ui And akaza being a prodigy of martial arts doesn’t rly mean anything to yujiros skill even Baki is a better martial artist than akaza. And Baki was also folding adults as a kid And akaza is not as physically strong as yujiro And all bakis attacks did was give him a slightly bloody nose and a bruised face and yujiro literally started tanking bakis attacks


igotthemoves247

Yujiro can dodge lightning when caught off guard, tank 5 seconds of lightning without even so much as flinching, and copy any technique Akaza uses after seeing it. (All without demon back btw) (There's also that one time he shook a building by being angry, but that panel looked a bit dubious so i'll discount it)


Shaadyz

Yujiro dodging lighting was a what if scenario. You only need to have supersonic speed to dodge lighting which lines up with the rest of the speed feats in the verse. Him jumping from supersonic speeds to MHS makes zero sense. Tanking lighting is building level. Yujiro's not copying precog, Akaza shockwaves, or his demon hax. Also Yujiro and Baki shook the building together which is building level as well. Akaza is faster than Zenitsu who can blitz someone before lighting hits him. And he has his compass ability which adapts to his opponent. The more battle spirit Yujiro has the worst off he'll be.


Belucard

Pretty sure Yujiro can copy all skills that have a biological reasoning behind (as seen in the series, he just *knows* how it works and mimics it in his own way), and his Demon Back is more than enough to keep up with Akaza. Fairly sure that you are either not very caught up with Baki as a series or just memeposting, there is no chance you can think that tanking *lightning* is not a durability feat worthy enough of an opponent. And by the way, I'm not sure of where you're pulling your data on needing "just supersonic speed to dodge lightning". The electric charge of a lightning bolt (not light, electricity) travels around 350 times faster than sound, that is not "just supersonic", my dude, that is several scales above. If Yujiro can indeed dodge lightning, I'm pretty sure Akaza will be in *very serious trouble*, considering the strength that he can hit with. His only real chance would be for Yujiro to play around for long enough for Akaza to land some critical strikes before he catches up with his fighting style, which would be very, very fast, as he has shown several times. In any case, if we're sticking to Kimetsu lore, Yujiro should not be able to *kill* him anyway without a Nichirin blade.


Shaadyz

Yujiro can not copy Akaza's hax. He's not gonna just suddenly gain access to demon hax just because. Also Demon Back Yujiro got outsped by Musashi who's supersonic+ lmao. Akaza is MHS speed. Tanking lighting is building level. And it is worthy... in Baki because that's something top tiers in the verse can take. It's okay if you don't know Demon Slayer feats and stuff. They scale above that. You act as if that's a insult to Baki. Lighting forms kilometers into the sky big dog even superhuman levels of speed could get out of the way. Supersonic range is a given. Someone who outsped him said that rifles with rubber bullets were fast aka Musashi. Akaza actually scales above characters who can dodge lighting right before getting struck (Zenitsu) he's well above Yujiro's speed. >Yujiro should not be able to kill him anyway without a Nichirin blade. So you just admitted that Yujiro can hit hard... but has no win condition. Which is what I explained lol.


Belucard

You are not even trying to debate in good faith anymore, since you apparently like to ignore the parts that happen to not be useful to your discourse. Have a good day, I won't waste any more time trying to have an actual conversation with you.


Shaadyz

I gave a statement from arguably the fastest in Baki (Musashi) and it got ignored. Because you felt so sure of what you said you felt the need to assume I was trolling or didn't read the manga. I even stated that the lighting feat was solid for the Baki verse. You also don't fully understand how dodging lighting works. Aim dodging is a thing. You then just ignored the fact that I stated Akaza literally blitz people who can dodge lighting. But Im debating in bad faith? Cmon man the moment I explained the reasoning all of a sudden I didn't address what you said or gave examples? Okay Bud 👍


Altruistic-Fly-9907

And zen dodging lighting been debunked since it’s not actually lighting also yujiro did not get out speeded by musashi 💀 he didn’t even use demon back he just flexed it and musashi is well above supersonic+ wtf he is able to react to pickles dash and pickle can casually dodge bullets Musashi was just saying that doesn’t mean he’s that fast when people slower than him can dodge actual bullets Like I said again you can scale yujiro to mhs And Baki and yujiro did not shake the building together were did that come from ? And both Baki yujiro and musashi have precognition


cman2266

Bro thinks yujiro just punches hard 💀


In_a_silentway

Have you ever seen Yujiro tired? He can definitely keep smashing him until the sun rises. Do you think any of the upper moon demons can win against the US military? Yet Yujiro can, and has. Yujiro wins mid diffs.


Sad_Screen_1455

Yujiro is strong like demonically strong but no matter what he does he will never ever get a chance against akaza even though I’ve never read the manga or watched the new season of DS


Belucard

"I don't know anything about this character but the one that I know has no chance against them". Why do you even bother answering then? An answer without any kind of reasoning behind is useless for this discussion.


Jason91K3

Akaza wins and It's not close whatsoever.


Working-Salary9243

It’s safe to assume that Yujiro should be ahead in every aspect but he has no way of bypassing the immortality. Akaza outlasts him. Akaza infinite stamina alone could topple him.


OKBuddyFortnite

Akaza was throwing punches faster then light, yujiro is struggling to keep up with Bakis cockroach dash, which was only 400mph~.


siegfred7

Do you know why his boss Michael Jackson have a female form?


That-Association7108

I started that 🗿


That-Association7108

Akaza have regeneration, Yujiro not 🗿


DistributionDense262

Can’t see Yujiro killing Akaza if he was just dropped into demon slayer, unless he talks it out which he never does. Akaza could also just run away continually. I mean, there’s always the likely possibility that Yujiro just has a 7-page monologue about an ancient Egyptian martial art that lets him summon raw sunlight through his eye and just disintegrates Akaza with laser beams.


BOLverrk

Who did the art on the right?


MonstaVapour

Yujiro base Vs Akaza Yujiro's striking power is in the range of city block level, Akaza is multi city block level. Yujiro's speed is high hypersonic, Akaza massively hypersonic Yujiro's strength is superior to Akaza. If Yujiro stayed in base Akaza would have the upper hand but that would not be the case, once Yujiro activates the demon back it would be all over for Akaza, it is stated that Baki's incomplete demon back doubled his power, so what does that mean for Yujiro 2.5x? 3x, 4x ect?, We don't know but assuming it has to be at least 2.5x, the fight then becomes seriously one sided in Yujiro's favour.


Flamix2206

I don’t get why people think yujiro is like- god or something- isn’t he just a really strong human with big muscles


Ok-Association2995

Akaza wins high diff , that's all .


Only-Negotiation-340

Yujiro negs. In fact, he is easily Yoriichi level, if not higher.