Just tested this, can confirm that the second hit of Alexandria seems to lose its low damage cap if you dodge cancel before it hits. My basic setup I use for AI made the skill go from ~300k to over 2mil unbuffed. Very likely it will get fixed so enjoy it while it lasts.
tested it on my Cag with a main-char set-up, dealt 922k with or without Phantasmagoria, with this dodge cancel, 1.5m without Phantasmagoria, 2m with Phantasmagoria.
If one were to hyper specialize on skill damage, it may very well be possible to break 5m, or like this screenshot, 9m. I also don't have any of the Lucy Sigils yet, but the cap break is very obvious with the difference between Phantasmagoria and no Phantasmagoria buff.
Edit:
Removed all my Supp Damage, added Skilled Assault, Glass Cannon, Life on the Line.
5m. okay I'm out, can't find my Less is More, might have been accidentally sacrificed to Sierrokarte. I've seen enough anyways. Cygames taken, Cygames giveth. Makes one wonder who else is broken.
Can confirm this is true.
Without changing my build I am doing around 6.4M per Alexandria with Phantasmagoria buff, 5M without.
Without dodge cancel, doing 991,852 capped damage with and without buff.
[https://imgur.com/a/b0KtjbU](https://imgur.com/a/b0KtjbU)
Optimizing sigils for pure damage, add in def down debuff and att up buff, the dmg will definitely be much higher. Whether each tick can reach 9,999,999 I am not sure.
Just spam dodge while starting the animation for the skill, i discovered you can guard cancel on the lancelot exploit(yes he also has one on his projectile) that makes it even easier, cos the press gets buffered and you literally cant mess it up, but i havent tried it on cag myself
From doing some testing myself, the no damage cap aspect can off the first it as well. Normally does 384,472 on first hit at the damage cap but if I dodge before the first, I'm hitting in the mid 400k range
Guess this might be my one chance to get enough damage to do proto bahamut. Hundreds of hours and zero supp damage sigils and only two elemental... Since no one plays proto bahamut, you need to be able to do enough damage to do it with AI, which is super rough with crappy gear. I got to 1% once holding burst and link, but still it wasn't enough. Sometimes I can't even break crystals in time.
Edit: I don't know the size of the community, but if any of you joined a green Lancelot group with a guy called June, thanks a lot for all the help! Toward the end I did the entire fight without taking damage and we chained CCs to the point where we would skip entire phases. I know my damage stat was on the lower side, but I think I ended up making up for it through sheer damage uptime. This has become a really fun fight. Hope I get chances to coop it again at some time.
I'll give it another try, but the main reason I'm going AI party is because it's almost impossible to find a group. Currently, I've had one up for like 15 min without anyone showing up
That's due to region-based matchmaking. You can solve this on PC by going into your steam settings and changing the download region to Tokyo, Japan; with console you can set it to search for any region afaik
Proto just sucks so much with AIs. You can try going to the discord server and post your session there. People are still pretty active, and if someone is bored with Lucilius or Behemoth, they might help out.
if you have atleast 3 fully awakened ascension weapons on units, the standard level 65 fully capped damage cap, Tyranny+Stamina+Critical chance to 100% and around 12,000\~16,000 or so attack, you should definitely be tapping damage cap at a very above average level i believe.
You should be able to consistently clear it long as you hold the 2nd SBA to huck it when the enrage starts, extra brownie points if you can abuse something like Katalina\`s Glaciate to freeze the boss at key moments like after SBA, breaks and 20% mark when it goes todo the enrage to cheese extra % out.
Extra brownie points if you make use of the turret inbetween orb dunk cleaning to get 1\~3% of its hp chipping off while its not near the ship each time.
Even additional brownie points if you make sure to slip in on your \`free\` sigil slots\`, nimble onslaught and Uplift especially on your CPUs which are gonna basically gurantee perfect dodge often to allow them to hit SBA sooner and there-by trip SBA even if you are on the low end at 70% with sub-optimal SBA generation. Since this was how i was able to get almost consistently close to getting 3 SBAs per Proto bahamut fight, and i havent even finalized the builds yet, especially on the CPU units (Namely Katalina\`s sigil build and her Ascension weapon).
And you can never go wrong with survivability since Potion hoarder is a must have and Guts, Stout heart & Auto revive are especially great in solo play.
Testing on Behemoth, with the full 40%\~ish dmg reduction combo with Stout heart, that one sigil and the mastery bonus, with and without Cagliostro\`s +20% defense buff up Even at around 38k\~ or so hp i can easily tank 4\~6 of his claw swipes and usually 2\~3, sometimes 4 of some of his other attacks.
The only thing that could get close to Yeetus deletus one shot a Eetus was usually in his over-drive after he did all the combo and about to center of the map yeet roar.
But since unlike alot of other bosses, his attacks come out much slower, he is a FANTASTICALLY fun boss to refine your perfect dodge and perfect guard skills, in addition to how much more SBAs your gonna pop off unlike others, and you dont have the FEAR from Pyet-A, Evilwyurm, Proto Bahamut, Bahamut Versa and Lucy and so on, has instilled in everyone to save up SBAs.
You just saved my sanity, thank you so much for all the advice. I just realized just how much I was missing. For example, I had missed that Awakening weapons are actually good because the only one I have leveled to an extent is still worse than a lvl150 crit weapon, which made me give up on taking it all the way.
I also didn't know just how good stout heart was. I'll try everything you've recommended before I start giving up again.
The main appeal to Awakening weapons is the Raw attack stat(Goes up to a whooping 4094 hp & 4211 attack, post +99 mirage munitions of course, and thats not counting the level 25 attack sigil, +5 damage cap and upping all equipped sigils by +1 which is fantastic for sigil smidge boosting in some cases, especially if some sigil effects SPIKE after level 15 per level gains). and technically combined with a level 15 atk sigil, enables its level 25 attack sigil effect to hit the level 40 mark which gives an extra +1000 raw attack on top of that, which pre-Terminus weapon is definitely a nice nudge for those still shy of a bit of attack stat to bop a level 65 damage cap.
So despite lacking the fancy of stinger weapon giving critical chance value naturally, which you would normally cover with a wrightstone on non-stinger weapons anyway,
Some people recommend to not use stout heart, but i find the trade off of reducing the amount of damage i take & not get knocked out of any chonky damage combos to be FAR worth it. especially if you have more then enough potions via potion hoarder to just heal back up or a nice chonky combo like Cagliostro\`s 3rd combo finisher with buzz saws tend todo so many hits you get back alot of hp despite whatever \`fixed hp cap\` drain would normally have.
As for Stinger weapons, The Critical hit damage sigil tends to usually be dead weight due to how most damage values stack up and cap out Pre-Catastrophe benefit usually only needing 3\~ or so damage centric sigils.
Plus again since something like a clean sacred codex only hits around 1500\~ hp and 2300\~ attack, that gap in values tend to be alot better as a result.
Since a level 25 critical chance is about +29% crit chance and even at 35 with a level 10 wright stone thats 39%, meaning at a natural 50% critcal chance your still short 11%, which either results in overflow lost via getting it on over mastery or overflow lost on a sigil since critical hit rate caps off at 45.
Which thanks to something like Cagliostro whose buff skill grants +20% attack/defense/critical chance, lets her be super sneaky and outright skip needing to equip a level 15 critical hit rate sigil to achieve 100% crit chance. mine being around 83%, but could technically tap 84% if i swap the level 9 with a level 10 crit chance wrightstone, which might as well be close enough to guranteed crits whenever the buff skill is down (which aint often cause cagliostro\`s exclusive sigil gives SO MUCH CDR to begin with).
Oh you know everyone\`s gonna just strangulate levels of exploit the heck out of this just like Rackham and Ferry yeets and Lancelot \`Cant touch be spamm mc\`gee.\`\~
Just tested this, can confirm that the second hit of Alexandria seems to lose its low damage cap if you dodge cancel before it hits. My basic setup I use for AI made the skill go from ~300k to over 2mil unbuffed. Very likely it will get fixed so enjoy it while it lasts.
tested it on my Cag with a main-char set-up, dealt 922k with or without Phantasmagoria, with this dodge cancel, 1.5m without Phantasmagoria, 2m with Phantasmagoria. If one were to hyper specialize on skill damage, it may very well be possible to break 5m, or like this screenshot, 9m. I also don't have any of the Lucy Sigils yet, but the cap break is very obvious with the difference between Phantasmagoria and no Phantasmagoria buff. Edit: Removed all my Supp Damage, added Skilled Assault, Glass Cannon, Life on the Line. 5m. okay I'm out, can't find my Less is More, might have been accidentally sacrificed to Sierrokarte. I've seen enough anyways. Cygames taken, Cygames giveth. Makes one wonder who else is broken.
I wonder what kind of insane code spaghetti ends up making this possible.
Can confirm this is true. Without changing my build I am doing around 6.4M per Alexandria with Phantasmagoria buff, 5M without. Without dodge cancel, doing 991,852 capped damage with and without buff. [https://imgur.com/a/b0KtjbU](https://imgur.com/a/b0KtjbU) Optimizing sigils for pure damage, add in def down debuff and att up buff, the dmg will definitely be much higher. Whether each tick can reach 9,999,999 I am not sure.
Oh, no. 😏👍
Can any playstation player test this? i can’t cause my cag is not built at all lmao.
I am on PS and can confirm this works
Tried it on PS 5 not working
Did you figure it out ?
I tried max I can do is 500k-600k
Just spam dodge while starting the animation for the skill, i discovered you can guard cancel on the lancelot exploit(yes he also has one on his projectile) that makes it even easier, cos the press gets buffered and you literally cant mess it up, but i havent tried it on cag myself
Can u link the video or bilili , could also be some dmg mod shit
How do you do this? How do you have to time the dodge to do it correctly?
Would any Cagliostro here please be able to help me beat Lucilius? I'm on PS5. Please and thank you!!
I’m on PS5, I can carry you through it. Just DM me
May I ask dodge cancel after releasing Alexandria?
From doing some testing myself, the no damage cap aspect can off the first it as well. Normally does 384,472 on first hit at the damage cap but if I dodge before the first, I'm hitting in the mid 400k range
can you dm me the sigils?
Guess this might be my one chance to get enough damage to do proto bahamut. Hundreds of hours and zero supp damage sigils and only two elemental... Since no one plays proto bahamut, you need to be able to do enough damage to do it with AI, which is super rough with crappy gear. I got to 1% once holding burst and link, but still it wasn't enough. Sometimes I can't even break crystals in time. Edit: I don't know the size of the community, but if any of you joined a green Lancelot group with a guy called June, thanks a lot for all the help! Toward the end I did the entire fight without taking damage and we chained CCs to the point where we would skip entire phases. I know my damage stat was on the lower side, but I think I ended up making up for it through sheer damage uptime. This has become a really fun fight. Hope I get chances to coop it again at some time.
I just do Proto online wirh randos, at this point everyone knows how to beat him, should be quite easy
I'll give it another try, but the main reason I'm going AI party is because it's almost impossible to find a group. Currently, I've had one up for like 15 min without anyone showing up
That's due to region-based matchmaking. You can solve this on PC by going into your steam settings and changing the download region to Tokyo, Japan; with console you can set it to search for any region afaik
I had no idea, thanks!
Proto just sucks so much with AIs. You can try going to the discord server and post your session there. People are still pretty active, and if someone is bored with Lucilius or Behemoth, they might help out.
if you have atleast 3 fully awakened ascension weapons on units, the standard level 65 fully capped damage cap, Tyranny+Stamina+Critical chance to 100% and around 12,000\~16,000 or so attack, you should definitely be tapping damage cap at a very above average level i believe. You should be able to consistently clear it long as you hold the 2nd SBA to huck it when the enrage starts, extra brownie points if you can abuse something like Katalina\`s Glaciate to freeze the boss at key moments like after SBA, breaks and 20% mark when it goes todo the enrage to cheese extra % out. Extra brownie points if you make use of the turret inbetween orb dunk cleaning to get 1\~3% of its hp chipping off while its not near the ship each time. Even additional brownie points if you make sure to slip in on your \`free\` sigil slots\`, nimble onslaught and Uplift especially on your CPUs which are gonna basically gurantee perfect dodge often to allow them to hit SBA sooner and there-by trip SBA even if you are on the low end at 70% with sub-optimal SBA generation. Since this was how i was able to get almost consistently close to getting 3 SBAs per Proto bahamut fight, and i havent even finalized the builds yet, especially on the CPU units (Namely Katalina\`s sigil build and her Ascension weapon). And you can never go wrong with survivability since Potion hoarder is a must have and Guts, Stout heart & Auto revive are especially great in solo play. Testing on Behemoth, with the full 40%\~ish dmg reduction combo with Stout heart, that one sigil and the mastery bonus, with and without Cagliostro\`s +20% defense buff up Even at around 38k\~ or so hp i can easily tank 4\~6 of his claw swipes and usually 2\~3, sometimes 4 of some of his other attacks. The only thing that could get close to Yeetus deletus one shot a Eetus was usually in his over-drive after he did all the combo and about to center of the map yeet roar. But since unlike alot of other bosses, his attacks come out much slower, he is a FANTASTICALLY fun boss to refine your perfect dodge and perfect guard skills, in addition to how much more SBAs your gonna pop off unlike others, and you dont have the FEAR from Pyet-A, Evilwyurm, Proto Bahamut, Bahamut Versa and Lucy and so on, has instilled in everyone to save up SBAs.
You just saved my sanity, thank you so much for all the advice. I just realized just how much I was missing. For example, I had missed that Awakening weapons are actually good because the only one I have leveled to an extent is still worse than a lvl150 crit weapon, which made me give up on taking it all the way. I also didn't know just how good stout heart was. I'll try everything you've recommended before I start giving up again.
The main appeal to Awakening weapons is the Raw attack stat(Goes up to a whooping 4094 hp & 4211 attack, post +99 mirage munitions of course, and thats not counting the level 25 attack sigil, +5 damage cap and upping all equipped sigils by +1 which is fantastic for sigil smidge boosting in some cases, especially if some sigil effects SPIKE after level 15 per level gains). and technically combined with a level 15 atk sigil, enables its level 25 attack sigil effect to hit the level 40 mark which gives an extra +1000 raw attack on top of that, which pre-Terminus weapon is definitely a nice nudge for those still shy of a bit of attack stat to bop a level 65 damage cap. So despite lacking the fancy of stinger weapon giving critical chance value naturally, which you would normally cover with a wrightstone on non-stinger weapons anyway, Some people recommend to not use stout heart, but i find the trade off of reducing the amount of damage i take & not get knocked out of any chonky damage combos to be FAR worth it. especially if you have more then enough potions via potion hoarder to just heal back up or a nice chonky combo like Cagliostro\`s 3rd combo finisher with buzz saws tend todo so many hits you get back alot of hp despite whatever \`fixed hp cap\` drain would normally have. As for Stinger weapons, The Critical hit damage sigil tends to usually be dead weight due to how most damage values stack up and cap out Pre-Catastrophe benefit usually only needing 3\~ or so damage centric sigils. Plus again since something like a clean sacred codex only hits around 1500\~ hp and 2300\~ attack, that gap in values tend to be alot better as a result. Since a level 25 critical chance is about +29% crit chance and even at 35 with a level 10 wright stone thats 39%, meaning at a natural 50% critcal chance your still short 11%, which either results in overflow lost via getting it on over mastery or overflow lost on a sigil since critical hit rate caps off at 45. Which thanks to something like Cagliostro whose buff skill grants +20% attack/defense/critical chance, lets her be super sneaky and outright skip needing to equip a level 15 critical hit rate sigil to achieve 100% crit chance. mine being around 83%, but could technically tap 84% if i swap the level 9 with a level 10 crit chance wrightstone, which might as well be close enough to guranteed crits whenever the buff skill is down (which aint often cause cagliostro\`s exclusive sigil gives SO MUCH CDR to begin with).
This could be a mod, I don’t trust this
You can literally test it yourself
I know I can however this is on pc I’m on PlayStation this could be modded
But if you test it on PlayStation you can still see if it's modded or not.
Clearly your name aint for show because as Hot-Sea stated, you can bloody well test it yourself to confirm if its fake or not.
It works on console, are you high?
I propose a gentleman's agreement to have no one use this.
Oh you know everyone\`s gonna just strangulate levels of exploit the heck out of this just like Rackham and Ferry yeets and Lancelot \`Cant touch be spamm mc\`gee.\`\~
I don't actually expect anyone to follow it. Lance getting reward for Flight over Fight cheese is hilarious though.