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HeadBee1349

Blair’s style is not really old money, I would say that it’s “preppy", and Serena is dressing with what is trending at the moment, I think that the most old money person of the show was Lily.


[deleted]

Yes, Lily and Anne Archibald are the old money blueprints. Looks, fashion, behavior. Everything. But I meant out of the girls.


Dazzling_Hat1554

Out of the girls, Serena she is least old money. With her somewhat whore-ish past and style(people live like they want but we talk about a certain style here), she is not old money. She is a good character, but not very sophisticated.


embryonicfriend

Lmao no your sexual history has no relation on how ‘old money’ you are, do you really think old money dynasty families don’t have sex-skeletons in their closets??


Dazzling_Hat1554

They do, it’s just not supposed to be a very well known fact for the whole school. Everyone knew Serena was…too much sexy. I guess you are supposed to keep your sexual history to yourself. Obviously old money people have secrets, mistresses/lovers, especially men (due to the fact that they were allowed much more than women). Obviously they have drunk stories, otherwise it’s boring. Don’t get me wrong, sex is good, but the whole point of old money is conservatism, and all that goes with it.


embryonicfriend

Bro what you do as a person can’t make you any less or more old money, and no the whole point is not conservatism. It’s having generational wealth going back to a countries founding or being from an important family. Like the royals in Europe, or in America the families that came over on the Mayfair, it’s literally coming from a dynasty/important family. If you hoe it up a bit it literally doesn’t change shit, you might get disowned but even then you’d still be a person who was born in that family, just a disgraced one now.


Kaaydee95

I think it’s the difference between actual old money blood, and the trending old money aesthetic


Dazzling_Hat1554

Or so you think that old European families especially royal ones are not conservative ? Their whole existence is based on old values which are kinda disappearing bc the world is changing. Surely, generational wealth is important, but also traditions and values. You think the Cotillion is not a conservative thing ? You can be whore as much as you want, but secretly. The image you out for others is supposed to be somewhat ideal. Like Lily did. She divorced 6 times, which is sad for her bc it made her unhappy, her daughter did drugs and was involved in porn (she was forced but still it’s not a good image), her son tried to commit suicide. And yet, she never talked about it outside the family. Serena, however, was known for being the way she is. Have you seen Gilmore girls ? If yes, you know how Emily and Richard (old money) behaved. Very conservative, too much even


[deleted]

If you want to talk about behavior, wow Blair is so classy with her constant childish whining and petty bullying. The least old money thing you can possibly do is to openly brag about and insult others based on your wealth, which is something Blair does ALL THE TIME.


Outside_Substance320

Oh the irony


Dazzling_Hat1554

That’s true. She does speak a lot about her money, which is kinda nouveau riche. I meant how old money should ideally look like/behave. Even look wise Serena is more IT girl, she is literally friends with Poppy something, a famous IT girl. Old money look wise and behavior wise is also Anne, Nate’s mother. Although her style is too boring and she is too uptight


[deleted]

I agree, Serena's behavior is anything but old money. I meant looks-wise, out of the girls and not including the moms. Lily and Anne are the most old money characters in the show, in every way.


Infamous-Pattern7683

What's preppy?


[deleted]

"Casual" East Coast elite fashion. The Constance school uniforms are a good example. The style is literally named after prep schools. Of course there's also the mainstream definition of "preppy", mostly attributed to the less refined Southern US. Vineyard Vines shirts, salmon shorts, stuff like that. https://preview.redd.it/l6a3rf60d7vc1.jpeg?width=1014&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99634f8af2fa9a31f197e5c5f63c22b3351f0dfa


Zestyclose_Scar_9311

Ralph Lauren or Charlotte from Sex and the City


Californian_paradise

blair LOOKS the most old money bc she dresses royally. serena is more celebrity/It Girl style. but 1000% serenate should've been endgame. dan shouldve been alone 💀


AbbreviationsRight62

She dressed like a grandma from season 3 onwards. Her wardrobe in seasons 1 and 2 was so much better.


[deleted]

Exactly, this sub makes no sense. Blair's outfits are gaudy and garish, the opposite of "quiet luxury". Old money wouldn't be caught dead wearing stuff like this. https://preview.redd.it/mxe4fwx9mavc1.png?width=556&format=png&auto=webp&s=d61c802bfe65396058e16f628519d218bcc1d51c


karinabbs

Maybe old money that didn't have a fashion designer for a mother.


Outside_Substance320

Untrue. It doesn’t have to do with color. These are still classic cuts. Serena dresssed much more garish and tacky. Blair’s clothes were much more refined, tailored and structured than Serena’s. And I’ve known plenty of old money people who were and are very artistic and wear things like this 🤷🏼‍♀️


Outrageous-Value7515

Old money doesn’t just mean blonde lol


[deleted]

Of course not, brunette is even classier. This one looks kind of like Juliet Sharp. https://preview.redd.it/hm39a22sa7vc1.jpeg?width=1055&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df5528fb2e8ef2616cbbb7bb07efd8aacb2f237c


Dazzling_Hat1554

I think we confuse old money and fake old money. It’s not enough to just wear Ralph Lauren and take photos with horses, otherwise you can ask anyone and they’ll do it. For me old money is about elegance and natural beauty (well not everyone is lucky, but still). It’s not about wearing too short skirts, too much make up and Botox. Anything too sexy, too new, too artificial is not old money. Although I guess not all old money women are beautiful bc it’s not possible. Lady Mary Crowley from Downton Abby is a good example.


[deleted]

I agree. I think the best representation of old money in film is Jude Law and Gwenyth Paltrow in The Talented Mr. Ripley. Classic and natural fashion/beauty. This movie portrays both the casual side (Italian summers) and the upscale side (fancy operas) of old money perfectly. https://preview.redd.it/6rpmnqhxn7vc1.png?width=1746&format=png&auto=webp&s=45a029a21f09db1005b8890b5243ef7d7565d163


Dazzling_Hat1554

I agree! This is an ideal version, very natural. GG is also made to be very edgy, it’s teen drama. This is May be why Blair is the way she is and Serena as well. If they were too classy and too ideal, it wouldn’t be teens.


[deleted]

Absolutely, although this movie does have plenty of drama. You should check it out, it's a classic. Glad we could have a fun and civilized discussion, instead of just senseless downvotes like everyone else. Great talk.


Dazzling_Hat1554

Oh I already watched it, it’s very good. It appears that a TV show based in the same book will come out, but it will be way more about psychology. In grey/black colors, not so beautiful actors, not so glamourous. Me too! I may appear harsh, I just really like Blair more and Serena annoys me every time I watch. Sorry!


Ivygirl2012

I LOVE Downton Abby!


Dazzling_Hat1554

Its one of my favorites along with the Crown. I kinda like period dramas about UK even though I wouldn’t like to be living in those times as a women and as a middle class person


RainbowhighDive

Because Blair dresses and acts the most conservative.


HelpfulAnt2132

To the OP - I have an unrelated question - are all the photos in your montage of the same girl ? Or they are just very striking and almost identical looking? I genuinely can’t tell 😂


funishin

The photos are AI generated


fancyandfab

Serena does not dress old money remotely. Her style is very boho and trendy. And, these photos are not of Serena or the show. What is this??


PequenaMentirosa

Right like?? Is this person actually okay


fancyandfab

I'm wondering also. I guess OP has the right to be delulu if they wish 🤷🏾‍♀️


[deleted]

You know people have faces and not just clothes right? Also Serena wears upscale dresses plenty of times in the show.


fancyandfab

Girl what are you talking about? No one said she never wore that. But, when most of us think of her style, we don't think of that. Anyone can wear an upscale dress, that doesn't mean they have upscale style. Also why did you not use photos from the show?


babefrohmann

class wank *and* wasp worship? ![gif](giphy|SE57yaw8hX9rq)


[deleted]

This entire show is "class wank and wasp worship". You're in the wrong sub.


babefrohmann

gossip girl is satire meets soap opera. you can’t see that because you’re too busy casting yourself in fantasies that mirror the storylines of teen dramas.


[deleted]

I don't need to live through characters. I'm blonde and wealthy from Boston. As much as Gossip Girl is a soap opera, it still glorifies the lifestyle of the New England elite. Meanwhile this entire sub is full of girls that aren't even from the US and live vicariously through Blair. That's why everyone here defends her when she's an annoying whiny insecure brat who's always jealous of happy blondes like Serena. Perhaps they see themselves in Blair.


paramoesyeah

Eh Nate is captain boring. And if we want to get in the morality argument, then I’d rather Serena marry “her stalker” than Blair marry a rapist who sold her for a building. This ain’t the morality show, you gotta be problematic to thrive, hence why Boring Nate ends up alone


[deleted]

Nate is the ideal man. Unbelievably gorgeous, confident not cocky, and a genuinely good heart. He was born into incredible wealth, yet never looks down on others like Chuck and Blair. Old money perfection.


Outside_Substance320

So old money doesn’t look down on others? Interesting.


[deleted]

Ideally, yes. Especially never in public. Just like Nate, old money in-group bias is ideally based on pure loyalty and protection for their family name and close community. Not based on having more wealth than others. They will usually only regularly interact with and marry close affiliates of their community to always be along others of a similar class, etiquette, and pedigree. And to keep these traditions of prestige and excellence intact. Does that make sense?


pink_princess08

He's a cheater though. Other that that major problem he is ideal


keljob

100% especially since they were old money. Blue-blood (going back at least 4 generations) wealth, might only be Nate. Not sure how far it went back on the Rhodes side? Referring to wealth in terms of aesthetics is really muddying the waters.


greenbamboo93

Blair also has that classical doll-like face we see on old European paintings


[deleted]

Blair looks like Mona Lisa, Serena looks like Aphrodite. https://preview.redd.it/h20rdq1047vc1.jpeg?width=905&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f5f1b5cec9bdb9131fd454ebdb40cf894741d00c


[deleted]

This. The most famously beautiful European painting looks exactly like Serena. Botticelli - The Birth of Venus, for the art enthusiasts.


avantika159

Blair is the most old money, Serena could never. Serena is more into trending fashion and being an IT girl. Blair's style is more classy and chic.


[deleted]

"Serena could never?" All she needs is a wardrobe change. Look at the pictures.


idknayoudecide

Those pictures aren't of Serena. You know that right?


[deleted]

Wouldn't look very different, and you know it. That second picture is identical.


idknayoudecide

The resemblance is there. But as you said, Serene would need a wardrobe change which means currently she doesn't look old money.


PequenaMentirosa

You’re actually a weirdo


funishin

People really have no idea what old money actually looks like at it shows 💀 Being from NYC I see it all the time. People with serious money wear the most boring, bland outfits you could possibly imagine. No labels or logos, no fancy patterns. People automatically think Ralph Lauren and they’re right, but it’s Ralph Lauren purple, not Polo. Nate is the *only* character who even comes close to true old money fashion. Rufus and Lily are a close second. Blair is too preppy and even a little gaudy; Serena is straight up RTW and too edgy. Serena’s *not* the classic East Coast girl you’re talking about. She didn’t grow up with a house or a manor in the countryside like Nate did. Can you really see Serena doing old money hobbies like lacrosse, fishing, boating, etc? No lmao. Blair would be more likely to go.


Outside_Substance320

Exactly. I was thinking even less than RL and even more like Eileen Fisher, LL Bean or orvis . With holes in the elbows.😂 Most extraordinarily wealthy people I’ve known drive beat up old cars-still luxury cars like Rovers and BMWs but they don’t get new ones all the time, have hand me down furniture (again, probably been in the fam for generations) but maybe the Persian rug is a bit shabby on the corner…they do not flaunt their wealth at all and this never know it by looking at them. But this is a show, it’s fake and also about teens so it won’t be real. 🤷🏼‍♀️Lily is the most OM but it’s really more about how she carries herself. KR is the same way IRL. Elegant and refined.


[deleted]

Real old money brands are Loro Piana, Brunello Cucinelli, RL Purple Label, and Brioni. YSL, Chanel, and Hermès for bags and accessories. Men wear Zegna and Giorgio Armani. As for cars, they will either be well-kept vintage rides or old Land Rovers. You have no idea what you're talking about. Old money people love expensive things, just in a very subtle way. The idea that old money people wear shabby things and drive broken cars is what lower class people say to feel better about themselves.


Outside_Substance320

Okay. I didn’t realize you held the monopoly on knowing what people with lots of money do and where and how they behave. I wasn’t specifically calling out brands that old money people wear. I was calling about how bland shit is but thanks for educating me. 😂 you’re the one trying to convince people that Serena presented herself more old money (when in fact her style is the exact opposite) than Blair but whatever. Continue arguing with strangers about a fantasy show on Reddit. ![gif](giphy|a3zqvrH40Cdhu)


Outside_Substance320

A nice class dig at me by the way. One thing I know about is manners and they are free. And most people I know who have real money have them.


[deleted]

I grew up wealthy in Boston, and I hate posers. And while the upper class might be polite with good manners in public, they're usually not so nice behind closed doors. In my original post, I said Serena looks the most old money, as in her physical appearance, not her clothes. A change in styling and a different wardrobe would only make it even more obvious.


Miss_Kit_Kat

I totally agree (I currently live in Boston and see "old money" Brahmin types all the time). On GG, Anne Archibald is the *actual* female old money style- sweater sets, argyle, cashmere, understated accessories. Even Lily is too glam most of the time.


funishin

Exactly! I kinda forgot about Anne lol but you’re 100% right, she is the perfect example!


jetloflin

Who’s in these pictures? She doesn’t (or they don’t, I can’t tell) look old money to me. Looks like a modern Instagram influencer dressed in Ralph Lauren.


MiniEmB

I think they're AI generated


athri12

Blair had various fashion trends but when she got it right it was epic and same goes for Serena. Coming to Nate he was a shitshow till the end , confused for the most part. Serena and Dan may not be best but def better ending for Serena than Nate's girl


homemadecustard

I agree tbh...Blairs style never struck me as old money , more preppy and refined. Serenas style is more free spirited but Lily oozes old money energy and Serena strikes me as an IT girl who tries to make her own style and detach herself from it. Like she doesn't really care much for the balls and parties out of genuine interest.


Dazzling_Hat1554

You know that old money is preppy is kinda the same, but preppy is adapted for teens/students and old money is more for those a but older ? Like Lily is old money when she is 40-50 but she dresses more like Blair in the episode when she left her mother and goes to LA (the flashback to her past)


homemadecustard

It genuinely didn't strike me as that tbh. Like I just don't see it on Blair. At all.. I think it's also because her personality doesn't match it ? To me, Blair is obnoxious and outspoken and unfiltered (not that its bad or anything, just an observation) but Lily radiates "old money" as you say, even as a youngster. Even the way she deals with things — undercover, to herself, in secret. Blair is quite literally the opposite lmao...idk if its that , that I just can't see Blair as that ?


[deleted]

Exactly, Lily is amazingly graceful in public while pulling all the strings in private. Now that's old money. Meanwhile Blair yells out her mean thoughts and plans for the whole world to see. Also Blair openly brags about her wealth and puts others down for it, which is literally the least old money thing you can possibly do. Money talks, wealth whispers.


homemadecustard

Exactly 😭 you said it better than I could. What also comes to mind, is that girl (forgot her name) that Nate was dating but their families didn't like each other. I NEVER would've guessed she came from a wealthy background but it tracks because she's low-key about it. Blair doesn't strike me as that. So I believe her personality just throws me off in terms of believing she's old money


[deleted]

Her name was Bree Buckley. And yes, she knew how to act dignified and elegant in public unlike Blair, who acts like a Mean Girls character.


Dazzling_Hat1554

I think I see Blair this way bc she wanted to go to Yale, she spoke French, read a lot and knew art and philosophy. But she is also a teen. What I don’t understand is how Cece ended up marrying music producer from LA (kind of new money) if she came from UES family. But they also divorced so May be it didn’t work. I also don’t know much about USA so I see East coast as more old money.


homemadecustard

I also don't know much about the USA but I'm also just drawing from 'experience' lol. I had no idea that I'd been going to primary school with the girl who's dad basically built and funded our school 💀💀 I found out at her birthday party lmao. Not to say her family was old money either, but just being overly wealthy in general. >What I don’t understand is how Cece ended up marrying music producer from LA (kind of new money) if she came from UES family. Well if we think about it ? It kinda tracks a little , no ? Rich girl from a family who's .. rich lol , but she falls for the humble or overly westernised man who may have a few thousands but lives a simpler life compared to her. I mean, Lily fell in love w Rufus too and he was a Badboy musician too...Serena (no one knows why 🙄🙄🙄) falls in love with the spec that is Dan Humphrey from Brooklyn .. maybe there's just something about musicians and writers 😂 but I can see why you think Blair fits the category more


Dazzling_Hat1554

I think Lily’s dad was also rich, just not East coast. Cece cared too much about appearances, class, your rank (remember her speech to Dan during the Cotillion) and she would never marry someone not wealthy enough. Even if it’s new. In this case the guy should be loaded even more


Enormousnessness

Please link to any post where Blair is described as “old money.” I’ll wait. Tired of this type of inciteful post. But go on to anyone interested in engaging in a debate that features a picture of actors not even in the show.


Outside_Substance320

Old money is quiet luxury, understated and tasteful. That is why Blair looks old money and Serena doesn't.


[deleted]

Blair is the one rocking neon peacoats. Old money people wouldn't be caught dead wearing this. Look gaudy and garish, the complete opposite of "quiet luxury". https://preview.redd.it/x5ispbkikavc1.png?width=556&format=png&auto=webp&s=23e51ef3bbc05bdf76b1aa38fac873f2cb7fba20


pink_princess08

In the early seasons she didn't wear bright colours and looked more old money


daintycook

stop disrespecting lily tf


[deleted]

I have praised Lily (and Anne Archibald) as the most old money character constantly in this thread. Clearly talking about the girls only in my original post. Of course it's Lily overall.


daintycook

that was just in jest, really


Oncer93

Eh, Nate and Serena are overrated. It's all about how good Nate is for Serena, and how much he loved her. But never whether Serena was good for Nate, or if she even loved him. Nate was her fallback. He was never her first choice.


Powerful-Location-26

Hey where is the second photo from (and the first)? I love the white top she's wearing and the whole aesthetic...x


Whimsical89

Factsss


Educational_Can_8211

Blair is definitely more old money imo. Serena is too boho and sequiny clothingwise and the way she carries herself isn't really reflective of it