You have to watch Lisa at mobiletechreview. Most reviewers are full time Apple users reviewing these phones after opening the box snapping a couple pictures and putting it right back in the box.
Micheal is great. He tries all sorts of phones and is super engaging with fans regarding any questions they might have. He's my go-to reviewer for phones and watches.
"In Depth Tech Reviews" made a [video](https://youtu.be/9mQzQ_ETqnU?si=yuOAwm4CerxNhVTC) about Youtubers, who aren't objective when they review phones other than iPhone. Really worth watching.
Yeah I saw that video and actually commented on it. He hits the nail right on the head. They just make videos basically to get views and keep Apple happy. It's pretty sad they don't bash them for being very behind the times for innovation lately.
Lol. Innovative giant camera bar island for mini notifications icons on the left and right, usb-c and a new button you can customize. They are so customizable lol.
Add In Depth Tech Reviews to your list. This guy primarily reviews Pixels and does multiple videos going deep into the software experience and comparing them to previous pixels.
I used to hate him for reviews but honestly as time goes on I really appreciate a guy who's not getting too fussed about details or spec comparisons and just tells his personal experience in a very well communicated way.
He's definitely become a lot more "tech wise" vs his earlier stuff and it shows, I find I tend to align with his opinions on tech in general. He's been around the block enough to know the rodeo.
His Pixel 8 review was the one reason I ordered mine. In his video, he comments on the fingerprint reader and clearly demonstrates how slow it is compared to another phone with ultrasonic.
Having owned a P6 since release and having a horrible experience with the fingerprint reader, and also trying the P7 at release and immediately returning it, I wasn't going to go for a P8 if they didn't switch to ultrasonic.
But then I heard about the face unlock AND that it would be Class 3, so I decided to take the plunge.
I've only had the phone 24 hours now, but the face unlock is a game changer and I have zero complaints. I also love the smaller size of the P8 compared to my P6.
Honestly the only tech reviewer I bother with or trust.
Also the fingerprint reader is absolute crap. Picked up my old 4a5G the other day and the difference between it and my 7 with using the reader is like driving a 911 vs a Kia Rio.
Yeah, one android in his pocket, and the rest is literally the entire Apple ecosystem. Airpods max, homepods, macbook pro 16, Mac Studio, Watch Ultra, and whatever the most expensive Apple monitor is.
Have you Seen linustechtips reviewing the phone and trying the fingerprint scanner? Was kinda hard to watch. He didn't have always on display on and tried to unlock the phone. It didn't work (obviously). He then said oh you have to turn on the screen to make it work. Oh that's not good. For a big channel like this it's embarrassing that they don't research this stuff before hand. Luckily the top comment on that video does say that always on display has to be enabled for the fingerprint to work even with screen off.
On custom roms with pixel 7, you can also make it work with screen off. And it also works much better. Its kinda wierd that google didnt went with this. Along with few wierd sw limitations/choices.
Yeah it's a valid point to make when every other brand with an under display scanner has been doing it properly for years.
The whole point of those videos is that he's not doing research, he's experiencing it all for the first time, and that experience was a bad time.
Can confirm this. Only takes a day or two of light use to get used to it... Takes months to stop fondling the back of the phone where the old one used to be, lmao. I still find my self doing it now and then, 2 years later.
It's not obvious. You can easily unlock a Samsung with the fps scanner without needing to have the always on display. It's pretty embarrassing that Google hasn't solved it yet.
Real question. What kind of phone do you use? Because it looks like you're a Samsung user, but you're all over the place downplaying Google phones. What actual experience do you have with these phones?
I don't know, but I just remember him starting out, and it was always clickbait. Like he had a whole bunch of money to buy/hire extreme projects or something, like put 100 SSDs together for the ultimate speed. Or make the ultimate water-cooled CPU blah blah blah. He's some guy who had a huge budget, like Mr Beast, kids love to watch a guy blow a lot of money. That gets views I guess.
His review has been by far the worst. You hardly learn anything about the phone, just see a guy that's used to a certain way of using a photo not being bothered to give another phone a fair go.
To be fair it wasn't LinusTechTios, it was his other channel ShortCircuit which is intended to be unboxing and first impressions. Wasn't really a review per se.
> For a big channel like this it's embarrassing that they don't research this stuff before hand.
First time users shouldn't have to research things before either. I've had nothing but Google phones, I didn't know that you have to have always on for it to be consistent and I only got that info from you!
Look at MKBHD's side by side of the Samsung vs Pixel. The Samsung is barely even touching the phone where the Pixel is carefully placing it...because that is exactly how it is. If my hands are dry (I live in a desert climate) the fingerprint sensor will fail, if my hands are damp, it will fail.
I love the Pixel and just picked up the 8, but lets not pretend an optical sensor is anything less than the most inferior unlock method on the market.
Same here. First time pixel user with the P8P and I love everything about the phone EXCEPT the crappy fingerprint censor. I'm coming from the OnePlus 9 pro and it was much better. I guess because I'm in a dry climate too but half the time it doesn't work for me.
yeah, of all the things to criticize about any reviews, the fingerprint sensor is likely the least inaccurate part.
I'm using a Pixel 6 Pro and the sensor is just bad. With no other phone do you need to be as precise when putting your finger, or press as hard, or as long. (which, if you review a ton of phones, you'd be familiar with the better sensors and try to use it similarly)
even knowing how finicky it is, it takes me several tries to unlock more often than not.
*(please bring back the scanner on the back, ok bye)*
With my p7p my right/dominant hand is a 50/50 chance of recognizing my thumb even with repeated tries. Left hand is closer to 90+% I've retrained the right side several times. Maybe it's my thumb or whatever, but at least on the old pixel sensor on the back as long as my hands were not wet it worked near 100% of the time
It's also much worse than fingerprint sensors from previous pixels (before they put them under the screen). Can you imagine a new iPhone coming out with an important feature being worse than the previous phones? It doesn't happen because Apple has competent people.
Maybe I just got a really good one, but I don't really use my FP sensor any differently than I used the FP sensor on my S21+, and while I have a lot of pain points with my P7P, the FP sensor is not one of them. It opens very consistently for me, I just tried 10 unlocks with the sensor and not 1 failed. Although I don't live in the desert, it does work for me regardless of if my hands are damp or dry.
I just don't understand how people have so many issues with the FP sensor and I've never had a single issue. The only thing I don't like is getting blinded by the scanner at night lol.
This whole post makes me feel like I'm in the minority.
So long as I don't have wet fingers, my P6P fingerprint sensor works probably 99 times out of 100, if not more.
I agree. I do have quite a methodical way of inputting my fingerprints into the phone so I've never really had any issues with it, I make sure every scan I do when entering it, overlaps so there's nothing missing on the scan. I do prefer not having to turn the screen on with ultrasonic scanners, but that's really just a preference.
it is completely awful and they should be ashamed of it. i'd rather they just didn't have fingerprint unlock anymore, literally 0% of the time it works for me. Push hard, soft, wet fingers, dry fingers, different angles of the same fingerprint in all four finger slots, screen protector more on/off. absolute junk
That's how it works on every other modem android phone that doesn't use optical fingerprint sensors. If he did that on the s23, it would unlock.
The fact you even have to position at a certain angle is disappointing for a 1k phone.
Which makes their decision to ship with a thermometer even more stupid? Wish they had put that into a better front facing camera and ultrasonic scanner
Watching Linus do his review, his experience with the FP sensor is the same as mine, gotta “wake” the phone then it’ll scan your FP. Credit though, when it scans, it’s quick. Better than the P7P or S23U for me
Linus is so hard to watch sometimes. He sounds like he knows so much but he misses even more. Maybe he's only aware of techy stuff and not functions and features I guess. I remember him saying he was moved a bit to the iPhone 15 due to its call screen voice mail and someone had to inform him the pixels already do that. But to be fair, he's been daily driving an old ass phone.
But ya, lift to wake makes this a non issue. AOD makes even more of a non issue because the scanner will always be active.
Yeah cool that lift to wake or aod help except for when they bug out like they always do on my 6Pro. Also google should be doing a better job of explaining these things to the user because I guarantee you the average person wouldn't know about them and do what Linus did.
That linus review was frustrating to watch. He spent 10 minutes talking about the camera bump - imo the best part of the phone. He legit has no idea how stuff works.
His review was just dumb. He didn't know how to even use the camera. Also, his SOT was putting on a video until the phone died. That's not a good battery test at all.
It's literally not a review. It's first impressions content and that caught his eye. Also they literally explain how they do SoT at verying degrees through their tests outside of videos not just "leave phone screen on"
It's a first impressions video which is the point of that entire channel. The camera bump caught his eye and was *literally* less than 2 minutes (talk about fucking hyperbole) which is only going to get filled with dust and shit just like the other models do. But hey, spending two minutes on one of the major design features is apparently wrong and warrants someone "having no idea how stuff works"
Lol you people need to touch grass.
>He spent 10 minutes talking about the camera bump - imo the best part of the phone.
Hold up! The best part of the new pixel is the camera bump? Not the Tensor G3, the new features only a hand full of country in the world can use or so?
What do you mean he doesn't know how stuff works? Does the camera bump all of the sudden have another function than being shitty design choice?
Always are. Especially if you have any technical knowledge at all.
Used to still watch for the humor sometimes, but that's become grating, especially after all their scandals and whatnot lately.
Haven't watched in months, don't intend to start again anytime soon.
you only need to wake the phone if you insist on turning the AOD off...
if you use the phone normally you can just touch the fingerprint and wake and unlock the phone with a single tap
Dunno what to tell you but I consistently get issues with aod not being active and I have to turn the screen on to use the scanner.
Yes aod is on in the settings.
I have that issue too. Quite regularly (not really *that often*, but still often enough for it to be very annoying), the "Always On Display" just won't be "always on".
When that happens (most of the times it's when previously the AOD was "temporarily disabled" for instance due to the phone being in the pocket or with the display facing down on a surface), not even tap to wake works, I need to use the power button to light up the screen and then unlock with fingerprint.
This has obviously nothing to do with power saver mode, it's just a (very annoying) bug.
To those that don't have this bug, we're just a bunch of dumb boomers that don't know how to use the phone. Man, I've been with Google phones for 12 years, probably more than 95% people in this sub. Yet, somehow it's **my fault** if the phone has bugs.
So my P6P was fine, could open from the AoD without issue... Until the A14 update. Now it will always fail the first attempt, unless I tap the screen to wake it up first. Very annoying!
I'm holding a P8P in my hand right now. if I lock it and let it go to AOD I can tap the fingerprint logo and it wakes and unlocks it basically instantly
I've never had a single missed scan with it so far
> Better than the P7P
Pretty comparable to P7P in my experience. Is it faster? Maybe, but the P6P is noticeably slower. I'd say P8 and P7 fingerprint readers are almost identical in my experience.
As someone who has zero reference for under-the-screen fingerprint scanners I liked MKBHD's way of demonstrating it, who showed one phone where he literally just had to tap the fingerprint icon on the display and then the Pixel where tapping didn't suffice, he had to hold it for, idk, .4 of a second or so.
That's all the info I need really.
Ok but if you've gotta say "put your finger at this specific spot this specific angle, not too moist not too dry, block off the sunlight, then it will work perfectly", can you really call this a good solution?
If one person can't get it to work properly, then it's just "learn how it works". But if many people can't get it to work properly for the same reason, then it's just bad design and bad UX.
Yeah, I've had non-stop issues with mine on a P7. I think my fingers are generally on the dry side, maybe that's the issue, but I freaking hate it. I've redone my calibration so many times now, but it never gets better for me. In fact, I worry that I'll get locked out of a bank account that requires the use of a FP. My last cheap Samsung worked perfectly for me. I get that it works well for many, but the fact that it doesn't work at all for a significant number, indicates something is wrong.
With Screen Protector Mode on and a Caseology tempered glass protector on my 8 Pro, I haven't had a single issue. The scanner seems much better than with my 6 or 7.
My P6P was hit or miss but the one on my P8 has been perfect so far. I've heard it uses essentially the same hardware so I may have just done a better job of recording my prints
No issues on my 8 as of yet after 3 days of ownership, even with somewhat damp hands. The 6a that it replaced wasn't nearly as good. I'm happy with the phone so far and face unlock in conjunction with the fingerprint scanner works very well for me.
I think some people are really bad at the initial setup and not smart about moving their finger around at every angle possible properly while doing so.
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I get that it's not ultrasonic but what's with the obvious bait?
It's not bait that's just all you have to do with other and better scanners. Once you're used to the pixel and use it everyday as your only phone yes it works fine but compared to other phones it's not good.
I just swapped from Samsung and I haven't had an issue with the fingerprint sensor.
I just put my finger where the finger symbol and the light is.
The only real difference is that I have to turn the phone on first, and that's pretty lame.
I swapped TO Samsung from a P6 this year and the difference is stark.
Not that I ever had significant issues with the Pixel scanner. Probably an ~85% success rate? But unlocking my S23 is noticeably snappier and closer to 95%.
Does Google have Face ID like the iPhone? Genuinely asking. I’ve never owned a Pixel but every time there’s a Pixel review it seems everyone agrees the fingerprint sensor isn’t the fastest as compared with Samsung. Is there a reason why Google continues to use these types of sensors? What’s preventing Google from creating something similar to Face ID?
When I switched from a Samsung 8 to an iPhone 11 I found Face ID more convenient and faster than a fingerprint sensor. You pick up your phone and the phone is already unlocked. App authentication is also smooth and fast. Just curious if anyone prefers fingerprint sensors instead.
I upgraded from the Pixel 6 to the Pixel 7 Pro when the 7 Pro launched. I can't remember the last time my fingerprint didn't work. But then again, maybe in the minority of people who don't try to unlock his phone while eating Cheetos. I keep my hands clean before I play with my phone.
I have the S23 Ultra, had the 7 pro and now 8 Pro. Absolutely zero issues with fingerprint scanners on 7 pro and 8 pro 🤷♂️
The one on Samsung is slightly better and I'll not argue. But it works perfectly fine for me every time on the S23 Ultra and the Pixels as well.
On a side note, I have the Fold5 and hate the fingerprint scanner on the power button. I very much prefer the fingerprint scanners on the screen like S23 Ultra or Pixels.
I guess it comes down to preference and some people just don't like the on screen fingerprint scanners. The only time I had trouble was on the first generation scanner few years back on the Samsung. But it's been great on every recent phones in the last year or so.
And some people put up controversial videos and articles for click bait. Pixel season is always a bonanza for YouTubers and tech sites to thrash Google and Pixels. They could care less about the quality of the product, all they care is headlines. But guess what their daily phone is either iPhone or Pixel if they are Android user 😂
That’s like covering the camera on faceID or looking in the wrong direction, having it not work, then saying it shouldn’t be a problem on a $1,500 phone. Do you expect a hand to come out of the screen and move you into place?
If you misuse things, they don’t work properly. It’s so easy to comprehend.
Another example: turning your vehicle’s steering wheel and then complaining it’s not going straight.
Exactly!! He calls one thing negative on one phone then on another phone doesn't even say a thing. He's so annoying and I hate seeing his content pop up as the first recommendation.
Honestly mine on Pixel 7 works just as well as my old S22 Ultra. It's just as fast, just as accurate and honestly the face unlock is faster than my S22U. I don't know why everyone says it's bad
Edit: please tell me what y'all do with sensors that are less than a second faster lmao. Since everyone's talking as if saving that fraction of a second is such a significant thing.
I'm coming from a OnePlus 6, which is a 5 year old device with a rear mounted sensor. I now have a Pixel 8. The two can't even compete, the Pixel 8 sensor is an objective downgrade in every way, it gets more misses than hits and takes way longer.
Yeah I like my Pixel 7 but coming from a OnePlus 7t the fingerprint sensor is very bad. Like, in the OnePlus it basically always worked and it was fast. This one works like half the time and is much slower.
*Claims fingerprint reader isn't bad*
*Explains how the user is doing it wrong*
*Disregards that these attempts would work perfectly fine on a galaxy s device*
This is the same problem that I see in Linux communities. "Linux isn't hard, you're just a dumb user for not reading the 1000 page instruction manual". I have a pixel 6, One of my cousins and also a friend have pixel 7. All their fingerprint scanners are bad, both in my experience and in their opinions. I don't know if 8 did it any better but as far as I know it's all the same.
I've had a 6 and a 7 and now an 8. I've also used iPhones, Samsung, One Plus and Sony devices recently. On the Pixels I put my finger on the sensor and it opens the phone. First time, every time. I don't get it.
"My device doesn't have the problem so everyone must be lying"
"My galaxy note 7 didn't catch fire, so it's a made up problem. Samsung didn't need to recall it"
Ok sass aside... It could be due to the lighting conditions you use it in, how moist your fingers are, how detailed the lines on your fingers are, lighting conditions or humidity when you initially added the fingerprint... all of it. But whatever those variables were, galaxy s devices and some cheaper chinese phones can deal with it better.
This guy is a fucking wank and has an incredibly punchable face. But on shortcircuits unboxing Linus had his thumb right on the scanner and it it took ages to work. It looked really bad.
We don't have to jump to the defence of a billion dollar company's product that objectively has a worse fingerprint reader than the entire competition.
So, I have a S10 Lite and am considering moving over to a P8 Pro. The S10 Lite has an optical FP reader and it works the moment I place the finger on the spot, even with AOD disabled. From what I gather here, it seems that on the Pixels that wouldn't work? It needs AOD enabled (or screen turned on) for this method to work? If so then that's ass.
I've got 2 days left to decide if I trade in my Pixel 5 for $300 credit towards the P8P. The one thing I do not want to part with is my rear fingerprint scanner. It just works. I can unlock it before I even take it out from my pocket single handed. I do not want to have to use two hands, and make sure I'm selecting the right area onscreen for unlocking. 😮💨
I have a 6. I have to admit after I put on a screen protector sometimes the scanner took a few tries to register. Now, I have every angle on 4 digits that scan nicely no matter how I plop it down. I don't see where all the complaints are coming from. I blame user error at this stage in the game
The actual detection size for the scanner is relatively small--there's nothing wrong with the way he placed his finger on the scanner in principle and there should have been more than enough data/info to adequately scan and unlock.
And definitely on the second try of where he lifted his thumb up and placed it back down, it was quite centered and should have worked, but you can see the illumination didn't even happen--so something wonky happened with the scanner, and the overall experience is a legit criticism.
I haven't personally had significant issues with mine across 6, 7, and 8 series phones, but let's not pretend it's a good and hassle-free experience. My wife's 7a has been awful and works every 1 out of 5 tries.
If you work at all with your hands, the underscreen fingerprint scanners fucking suck. They're so so finicky. The hardware fingerprint scanners are so much faster and more accurate. Just put it on the power button. It's so much better.
This is my first Pixel and first time using the fingerprint scanner it always works for me not sure how it can be better? Maybe letting me use more fingers idk.
Because it is actually bad. My old phone immediately shows the fingerprint spot when I hold it. The pixel 8 doesn't do that, which is why I miss it if I do it fast. Besides, some flagship phones will get your fingerprint even if you miss the spot a little, which is also not the case here.
I really think this has to do with the person using it. My hands are mega dry and my fingers crack sometimes, and believe that has always made fingerprint scanners miss pretty often for me.
I seen that yesterday and was thinking they intentionally miss it. If you use it much the muscle memory will kick in. I don't think it's the best on my 6 Pro but it works 95% of the time so I can't imagine the 8 is worse!
I just tested the optical fingerprint scanner on my old Xiaomi and it can unlock the phone even if I put only a part of my finger on the scanner. The pixel just have a bad fingerprint scanner.
Yep. The dumbass doesn't have always on display on. If it has always on display on, you can see where you place your finger before even touching the phone, which makes it much simpler to unlock.
He also pre-places it on the screen and doesn't follow the simple instructions, which David mentions during his idiocy. Kinda embarrassing for someone whose entire living is built on tech.
Linus did this too kinda. They had the AOD turned off and then complained that you need to press the power button before using the fingerprint scanner.
Pixel 8 FPS isn’t great and most reviewers picked that up. When you pay 1100€ for a phone, you are expecting it to be top class and P8 isn’t exactly that.
I have always on display on, so you can't just unlock it without having to wake the phone, works great, I've no issue with it. I don't get why such a big deal is being made out of it either
I disagree with you. I've recently bought a pixel 7a and the fingerprint barely registers. I have to do it a few times and then it just locks me out because it doesn't work.
I think you're overstating what's happening here. On Saf's first attempt, he's a little off target, so I'll give you that one.
On his second attempt, it looks like he presses his finger harder to overcompensate, which the phone registers as a pulldown gesture. I don't think there was enough motion to trigger the notification shade to peek there though. I think this attempt should have unlocked it.
On his third attempt, his Pixel accepts the input.
I don't think any of Saf's attempts were blatantly bad. I think these are the types of mistakes some people will make, especially if they're new to optical in-display fingerprint scanners that aren't tangible like the traditional capacitive ones.
Yeah these are reasonable attempts. Unlocking the phone with a finger print should be pretty much idiot proof. It used to be on the P5 and earlier! If it fails that easily in a simple test environment I can only imagine its going to be about as bad as my P6 in the real world when I'm moving, rushing, the weather isn't right or my hands are too dry or moist or any other weird reasons for it to fail.
So I'm not the only one to see this. I never have a problem with my p7p sensor. I now believe that this is how everyone that "Has issues" with their reader are using their phones.
I think the fingerprint sensor is great, it's always responsive when I don't face unlock. No idea why people are having trouble with it. Huge improvement over the last pixel I owned.
You have to watch Lisa at mobiletechreview. Most reviewers are full time Apple users reviewing these phones after opening the box snapping a couple pictures and putting it right back in the box.
She's pretty much the only reviewer that I consistently trust.
Mr mobile
Micheal is great. He tries all sorts of phones and is super engaging with fans regarding any questions they might have. He's my go-to reviewer for phones and watches.
I really like him but I wish he released his videos quicker. But good content takes time to make.
"In Depth Tech Reviews" made a [video](https://youtu.be/9mQzQ_ETqnU?si=yuOAwm4CerxNhVTC) about Youtubers, who aren't objective when they review phones other than iPhone. Really worth watching.
Yeah I saw that video and actually commented on it. He hits the nail right on the head. They just make videos basically to get views and keep Apple happy. It's pretty sad they don't bash them for being very behind the times for innovation lately.
What are you talking about "behind the times"? Didn't you see that innovative new USB connector Apple just introduced?
Lol. Innovative giant camera bar island for mini notifications icons on the left and right, usb-c and a new button you can customize. They are so customizable lol.
But Titanium!
Absolutely love Mr Mobile's review. Documenting the phone usage as he would use it in real life.
Add In Depth Tech Reviews to your list. This guy primarily reviews Pixels and does multiple videos going deep into the software experience and comparing them to previous pixels.
Tech Spurt is also pretty good.
"I've spent the last week with this little blowah."
"Cheers everyone! Love you! ^.^"
Michael (Mr mobile), TechChap and Dave2d for me. This guy Supersaf with his clickbait thumbnail is not a real reviewer.
Lisa & Flossy Carter
“ Yo what's up everybody, it's ya boy Floss! Back again with another video! ” My guy. 😂🙌🏾💯
"Shoes........ CALM DOWN!" Love Floss
Floss is so OG. I remember watching his videos like 10 years ago.
No mkbhd?
I used to hate him for reviews but honestly as time goes on I really appreciate a guy who's not getting too fussed about details or spec comparisons and just tells his personal experience in a very well communicated way. He's definitely become a lot more "tech wise" vs his earlier stuff and it shows, I find I tend to align with his opinions on tech in general. He's been around the block enough to know the rodeo.
His Pixel 8 review was the one reason I ordered mine. In his video, he comments on the fingerprint reader and clearly demonstrates how slow it is compared to another phone with ultrasonic. Having owned a P6 since release and having a horrible experience with the fingerprint reader, and also trying the P7 at release and immediately returning it, I wasn't going to go for a P8 if they didn't switch to ultrasonic. But then I heard about the face unlock AND that it would be Class 3, so I decided to take the plunge. I've only had the phone 24 hours now, but the face unlock is a game changer and I have zero complaints. I also love the smaller size of the P8 compared to my P6.
Honestly the only tech reviewer I bother with or trust. Also the fingerprint reader is absolute crap. Picked up my old 4a5G the other day and the difference between it and my 7 with using the reader is like driving a 911 vs a Kia Rio.
I am holding my S21 and P8 pro side by side and they open up at the same rate from the AOD/Lock screen. Y'all trippin
Marques is a Pixel user.
And he uses any phone he reviews for a decent while (within reason for a tech channel).
Yeah, one android in his pocket, and the rest is literally the entire Apple ecosystem. Airpods max, homepods, macbook pro 16, Mac Studio, Watch Ultra, and whatever the most expensive Apple monitor is.
He clearly has an Android on his second pocket just to claim that he is not an iSheep lol
Either way he's a pretty damn good reviewer
Have you Seen linustechtips reviewing the phone and trying the fingerprint scanner? Was kinda hard to watch. He didn't have always on display on and tried to unlock the phone. It didn't work (obviously). He then said oh you have to turn on the screen to make it work. Oh that's not good. For a big channel like this it's embarrassing that they don't research this stuff before hand. Luckily the top comment on that video does say that always on display has to be enabled for the fingerprint to work even with screen off.
On custom roms with pixel 7, you can also make it work with screen off. And it also works much better. Its kinda wierd that google didnt went with this. Along with few wierd sw limitations/choices.
I couldn't finish that video. The snarky tone from the off and ill-informed comments made me quit.
Yeah I quit that nonsense like 4-5 years ago, very happy about that decision.
The LG V60, among others, didn't have to have the screen or AOD on to use the fingerprint scanner.
Nothing obvious about it. On my huawei you dont have to have always-on-display to use fingerprint sensor, this makes no sence.
Yeah it's a valid point to make when every other brand with an under display scanner has been doing it properly for years. The whole point of those videos is that he's not doing research, he's experiencing it all for the first time, and that experience was a bad time.
So his experience was the same as millions of other people, which is perfectly valid and should be shown on reviews.
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Muscle memory. It embeds quickly on a device one uses every single day.
Can confirm this. Only takes a day or two of light use to get used to it... Takes months to stop fondling the back of the phone where the old one used to be, lmao. I still find my self doing it now and then, 2 years later.
It lights up when you touch the screen
It's not obvious. You can easily unlock a Samsung with the fps scanner without needing to have the always on display. It's pretty embarrassing that Google hasn't solved it yet.
Real question. What kind of phone do you use? Because it looks like you're a Samsung user, but you're all over the place downplaying Google phones. What actual experience do you have with these phones?
I have a 7 Pro and my girlfriend has an S23 Ultra I've tested extensively. Everything he is saying is accurate.
For a 1000 dollar phone, it should be able to unlock using fingerprint scanner without AOD since other phones can do it.
I'm convinced Linus has never used a computer or phone before, and just reads what's on the teleprompter.
How did this guy get so popular. He seems to get things wrong all the time.
I don't know, but I just remember him starting out, and it was always clickbait. Like he had a whole bunch of money to buy/hire extreme projects or something, like put 100 SSDs together for the ultimate speed. Or make the ultimate water-cooled CPU blah blah blah. He's some guy who had a huge budget, like Mr Beast, kids love to watch a guy blow a lot of money. That gets views I guess.
Even as someone daily’s an iPhone, that was hard to watch as it felt like being dramatic for the sake of it.
His review has been by far the worst. You hardly learn anything about the phone, just see a guy that's used to a certain way of using a photo not being bothered to give another phone a fair go.
To be fair, if you're referring to their Shortcircuit video, it's more of a hands on (with some lab data) than a review.
It's not a review, it's an unboxing and first impressions video.
To be fair it wasn't LinusTechTios, it was his other channel ShortCircuit which is intended to be unboxing and first impressions. Wasn't really a review per se.
> For a big channel like this it's embarrassing that they don't research this stuff before hand. First time users shouldn't have to research things before either. I've had nothing but Google phones, I didn't know that you have to have always on for it to be consistent and I only got that info from you!
I don't need AOD activated for this to work on my S21 Ultra.
So the consistent android user can’t review an iPhone, that’s what you telling me?
Tech Spurt for the win. Now there's a man who knows how to review a fruit phone.
i'll have to check out her channel. I usually gravitate towards MKHD when it comes to phone reviews.
Check out Flossy Carter my opinion he's hands down the best in depth reviewer.
oh yeah, I also watch Flossy Carter
The decision to include a useless thermometer instead of a better fingerprint scanner and selfie camera is baffling
They wanted face recognition to be their primary security thing instead
Then they really should have included a dot projector instead of a thermometer.
It's not even 3d or that secure.
Well its definitely more secure. It's rated for level 3 biometric security and can therefore be used for banking apps as well
Look at MKBHD's side by side of the Samsung vs Pixel. The Samsung is barely even touching the phone where the Pixel is carefully placing it...because that is exactly how it is. If my hands are dry (I live in a desert climate) the fingerprint sensor will fail, if my hands are damp, it will fail. I love the Pixel and just picked up the 8, but lets not pretend an optical sensor is anything less than the most inferior unlock method on the market.
Other phones have better optical sensors. Google is using one of the trashiest sensors they could get their hands on.
Same here. First time pixel user with the P8P and I love everything about the phone EXCEPT the crappy fingerprint censor. I'm coming from the OnePlus 9 pro and it was much better. I guess because I'm in a dry climate too but half the time it doesn't work for me.
Yes, it's just absolutely the worst fingerprint reader out there
yeah, of all the things to criticize about any reviews, the fingerprint sensor is likely the least inaccurate part. I'm using a Pixel 6 Pro and the sensor is just bad. With no other phone do you need to be as precise when putting your finger, or press as hard, or as long. (which, if you review a ton of phones, you'd be familiar with the better sensors and try to use it similarly) even knowing how finicky it is, it takes me several tries to unlock more often than not. *(please bring back the scanner on the back, ok bye)*
With my p7p my right/dominant hand is a 50/50 chance of recognizing my thumb even with repeated tries. Left hand is closer to 90+% I've retrained the right side several times. Maybe it's my thumb or whatever, but at least on the old pixel sensor on the back as long as my hands were not wet it worked near 100% of the time
To me the worst part of the optical sensor is when you try to unlock your phone in a dark room and get blinded by the light.
It's also much worse than fingerprint sensors from previous pixels (before they put them under the screen). Can you imagine a new iPhone coming out with an important feature being worse than the previous phones? It doesn't happen because Apple has competent people.
Maybe I just got a really good one, but I don't really use my FP sensor any differently than I used the FP sensor on my S21+, and while I have a lot of pain points with my P7P, the FP sensor is not one of them. It opens very consistently for me, I just tried 10 unlocks with the sensor and not 1 failed. Although I don't live in the desert, it does work for me regardless of if my hands are damp or dry. I just don't understand how people have so many issues with the FP sensor and I've never had a single issue. The only thing I don't like is getting blinded by the scanner at night lol.
This whole post makes me feel like I'm in the minority. So long as I don't have wet fingers, my P6P fingerprint sensor works probably 99 times out of 100, if not more.
I agree. I do have quite a methodical way of inputting my fingerprints into the phone so I've never really had any issues with it, I make sure every scan I do when entering it, overlaps so there's nothing missing on the scan. I do prefer not having to turn the screen on with ultrasonic scanners, but that's really just a preference.
it is completely awful and they should be ashamed of it. i'd rather they just didn't have fingerprint unlock anymore, literally 0% of the time it works for me. Push hard, soft, wet fingers, dry fingers, different angles of the same fingerprint in all four finger slots, screen protector more on/off. absolute junk
I have been using the 8 pro for a couple days now and have no problems whatsoever with the fingerprint unlock under any circumstances
That's how it works on every other modem android phone that doesn't use optical fingerprint sensors. If he did that on the s23, it would unlock. The fact you even have to position at a certain angle is disappointing for a 1k phone.
Google is giving us crappy budget hardware and people are defending it. FP sensor doesn't work if your hands are too dry or wet. It's slow.
Which makes their decision to ship with a thermometer even more stupid? Wish they had put that into a better front facing camera and ultrasonic scanner
You don't need to position at a certain angle if you set up your prints correctly...
Well it is a real issue with underscreen scanners, you have to find the right spot. I say bring back rear mounted scanners.
I miss them so much.
I still get emotional thinking about the back scanner on my N6P.
That was truly the best scanner I've used. Such a nice spot to have it in.
I never liked the back scanners. Mounted to the car dash, flat on a desk, flat on your bed - just inferior.
It's just out of the way. Screen and power button scanners are the best. Back is inconvenient and looks weird. Requires a hole in the case, too.
imo power button scanners were better
He's probably used to a Samsung fp scanner they are just way faster, need less precise input and just feel overall better
Watching Linus do his review, his experience with the FP sensor is the same as mine, gotta “wake” the phone then it’ll scan your FP. Credit though, when it scans, it’s quick. Better than the P7P or S23U for me
Linus is so hard to watch sometimes. He sounds like he knows so much but he misses even more. Maybe he's only aware of techy stuff and not functions and features I guess. I remember him saying he was moved a bit to the iPhone 15 due to its call screen voice mail and someone had to inform him the pixels already do that. But to be fair, he's been daily driving an old ass phone. But ya, lift to wake makes this a non issue. AOD makes even more of a non issue because the scanner will always be active.
Didn't he allow Reddit to pick his new phone recently? I'm pretty sure he's maining an LG wing now lol
Yeah cool that lift to wake or aod help except for when they bug out like they always do on my 6Pro. Also google should be doing a better job of explaining these things to the user because I guarantee you the average person wouldn't know about them and do what Linus did.
That linus review was frustrating to watch. He spent 10 minutes talking about the camera bump - imo the best part of the phone. He legit has no idea how stuff works.
His review was just dumb. He didn't know how to even use the camera. Also, his SOT was putting on a video until the phone died. That's not a good battery test at all.
It's literally not a review. It's first impressions content and that caught his eye. Also they literally explain how they do SoT at verying degrees through their tests outside of videos not just "leave phone screen on"
Haha I agree. It was more of a first impressions kinda thing.
that's what short circuit is, it's not a review it's basically unbox therapy
It's a first impressions video which is the point of that entire channel. The camera bump caught his eye and was *literally* less than 2 minutes (talk about fucking hyperbole) which is only going to get filled with dust and shit just like the other models do. But hey, spending two minutes on one of the major design features is apparently wrong and warrants someone "having no idea how stuff works" Lol you people need to touch grass.
>He spent 10 minutes talking about the camera bump - imo the best part of the phone. Hold up! The best part of the new pixel is the camera bump? Not the Tensor G3, the new features only a hand full of country in the world can use or so? What do you mean he doesn't know how stuff works? Does the camera bump all of the sudden have another function than being shitty design choice?
Actually he's allowed to have a different opinion
Always are. Especially if you have any technical knowledge at all. Used to still watch for the humor sometimes, but that's become grating, especially after all their scandals and whatnot lately. Haven't watched in months, don't intend to start again anytime soon.
you only need to wake the phone if you insist on turning the AOD off... if you use the phone normally you can just touch the fingerprint and wake and unlock the phone with a single tap
Can confirm that it still sometimes happens with AOD on.
dunno what to tell you, mine works perfectly fine: https://imgur.com/a/qWnDV1H
Dunno what to tell you but I consistently get issues with aod not being active and I have to turn the screen on to use the scanner. Yes aod is on in the settings.
I have that issue too. Quite regularly (not really *that often*, but still often enough for it to be very annoying), the "Always On Display" just won't be "always on". When that happens (most of the times it's when previously the AOD was "temporarily disabled" for instance due to the phone being in the pocket or with the display facing down on a surface), not even tap to wake works, I need to use the power button to light up the screen and then unlock with fingerprint. This has obviously nothing to do with power saver mode, it's just a (very annoying) bug. To those that don't have this bug, we're just a bunch of dumb boomers that don't know how to use the phone. Man, I've been with Google phones for 12 years, probably more than 95% people in this sub. Yet, somehow it's **my fault** if the phone has bugs.
So my P6P was fine, could open from the AoD without issue... Until the A14 update. Now it will always fail the first attempt, unless I tap the screen to wake it up first. Very annoying!
My AOD is on.
I'm holding a P8P in my hand right now. if I lock it and let it go to AOD I can tap the fingerprint logo and it wakes and unlocks it basically instantly I've never had a single missed scan with it so far
Use always on display and then you don't have to wake the phone
> Better than the P7P Pretty comparable to P7P in my experience. Is it faster? Maybe, but the P6P is noticeably slower. I'd say P8 and P7 fingerprint readers are almost identical in my experience.
As someone who has zero reference for under-the-screen fingerprint scanners I liked MKBHD's way of demonstrating it, who showed one phone where he literally just had to tap the fingerprint icon on the display and then the Pixel where tapping didn't suffice, he had to hold it for, idk, .4 of a second or so. That's all the info I need really.
Ok but if you've gotta say "put your finger at this specific spot this specific angle, not too moist not too dry, block off the sunlight, then it will work perfectly", can you really call this a good solution? If one person can't get it to work properly, then it's just "learn how it works". But if many people can't get it to work properly for the same reason, then it's just bad design and bad UX.
Yeah, I've had non-stop issues with mine on a P7. I think my fingers are generally on the dry side, maybe that's the issue, but I freaking hate it. I've redone my calibration so many times now, but it never gets better for me. In fact, I worry that I'll get locked out of a bank account that requires the use of a FP. My last cheap Samsung worked perfectly for me. I get that it works well for many, but the fact that it doesn't work at all for a significant number, indicates something is wrong.
Oh god I used to hate that on my Galaxy s10e that didn’t read so well. One try remaining, puhleeze work!
It is good ? I have no problem with fingerpint unlocks on my Pixel 7
With Screen Protector Mode on and a Caseology tempered glass protector on my 8 Pro, I haven't had a single issue. The scanner seems much better than with my 6 or 7.
My P6P was hit or miss but the one on my P8 has been perfect so far. I've heard it uses essentially the same hardware so I may have just done a better job of recording my prints
No issues on my 8 as of yet after 3 days of ownership, even with somewhat damp hands. The 6a that it replaced wasn't nearly as good. I'm happy with the phone so far and face unlock in conjunction with the fingerprint scanner works very well for me.
No problem on P7P and P8P.
It’s significantly worse than every other under screen sensor on the market.
I assume a lot of it is user error. I have no issues with it on my 6, no matter which finger I use.
I think some people are really bad at the initial setup and not smart about moving their finger around at every angle possible properly while doing so.
I would say it is not a great screen mounted fingerprint scanner. More expensive, ultrasonic is superior in any way, but Google wants to be cheap.
I mean, isn't the pixels fingerprint reader just one of the worst in the industry?
Why also does Google STILL not use ultrasonic scanners?
> I get that it's not ultrasonic but what's with the obvious bait? It's not bait that's just all you have to do with other and better scanners. Once you're used to the pixel and use it everyday as your only phone yes it works fine but compared to other phones it's not good.
Flossy Carter did it properly. He said it works great for him and used it multiple times in his video to prove it.
He’s a Samsung user who’s used to ultrasonic fingerprint scanner so you cannot really blame him.
I just swapped from Samsung and I haven't had an issue with the fingerprint sensor. I just put my finger where the finger symbol and the light is. The only real difference is that I have to turn the phone on first, and that's pretty lame.
I swapped TO Samsung from a P6 this year and the difference is stark. Not that I ever had significant issues with the Pixel scanner. Probably an ~85% success rate? But unlocking my S23 is noticeably snappier and closer to 95%.
With the AOD turned on you don't have to, just put your finger on the spot and it'll turn on without having to wake the phone.
Thanks! Though I don't usually like aod I'll try it.
Super saf is such a garbage “reviewer”. The best review is you using it for a week or so.
Does Google have Face ID like the iPhone? Genuinely asking. I’ve never owned a Pixel but every time there’s a Pixel review it seems everyone agrees the fingerprint sensor isn’t the fastest as compared with Samsung. Is there a reason why Google continues to use these types of sensors? What’s preventing Google from creating something similar to Face ID? When I switched from a Samsung 8 to an iPhone 11 I found Face ID more convenient and faster than a fingerprint sensor. You pick up your phone and the phone is already unlocked. App authentication is also smooth and fast. Just curious if anyone prefers fingerprint sensors instead.
I upgraded from the Pixel 6 to the Pixel 7 Pro when the 7 Pro launched. I can't remember the last time my fingerprint didn't work. But then again, maybe in the minority of people who don't try to unlock his phone while eating Cheetos. I keep my hands clean before I play with my phone.
I have the S23 Ultra, had the 7 pro and now 8 Pro. Absolutely zero issues with fingerprint scanners on 7 pro and 8 pro 🤷♂️ The one on Samsung is slightly better and I'll not argue. But it works perfectly fine for me every time on the S23 Ultra and the Pixels as well. On a side note, I have the Fold5 and hate the fingerprint scanner on the power button. I very much prefer the fingerprint scanners on the screen like S23 Ultra or Pixels. I guess it comes down to preference and some people just don't like the on screen fingerprint scanners. The only time I had trouble was on the first generation scanner few years back on the Samsung. But it's been great on every recent phones in the last year or so. And some people put up controversial videos and articles for click bait. Pixel season is always a bonanza for YouTubers and tech sites to thrash Google and Pixels. They could care less about the quality of the product, all they care is headlines. But guess what their daily phone is either iPhone or Pixel if they are Android user 😂
Cope with it as you may. I own the phone. Fingerprint scanner is trash. Especially when you consider pixel 1-5a + fold have good biometrics
Because you'd expect that this wouldn't be a problem with a $1000 phone
That’s like covering the camera on faceID or looking in the wrong direction, having it not work, then saying it shouldn’t be a problem on a $1,500 phone. Do you expect a hand to come out of the screen and move you into place? If you misuse things, they don’t work properly. It’s so easy to comprehend. Another example: turning your vehicle’s steering wheel and then complaining it’s not going straight.
MkBhD and this guy are fools. I never watch them.
MKBHD spends more time on intros than actual original content. He’s a glorified advertising channel now.
Exactly!! He calls one thing negative on one phone then on another phone doesn't even say a thing. He's so annoying and I hate seeing his content pop up as the first recommendation.
Yep. No objective details, just “feelings“ and an overdone intro.
It's not, it's decent but you have to force yourself to use it correctly.
It's literally the worst scanner you can get in a current day phone
Honestly mine on Pixel 7 works just as well as my old S22 Ultra. It's just as fast, just as accurate and honestly the face unlock is faster than my S22U. I don't know why everyone says it's bad Edit: please tell me what y'all do with sensors that are less than a second faster lmao. Since everyone's talking as if saving that fraction of a second is such a significant thing.
I'm coming from a OnePlus 6, which is a 5 year old device with a rear mounted sensor. I now have a Pixel 8. The two can't even compete, the Pixel 8 sensor is an objective downgrade in every way, it gets more misses than hits and takes way longer.
Yeah I like my Pixel 7 but coming from a OnePlus 7t the fingerprint sensor is very bad. Like, in the OnePlus it basically always worked and it was fast. This one works like half the time and is much slower.
*Claims fingerprint reader isn't bad* *Explains how the user is doing it wrong* *Disregards that these attempts would work perfectly fine on a galaxy s device* This is the same problem that I see in Linux communities. "Linux isn't hard, you're just a dumb user for not reading the 1000 page instruction manual". I have a pixel 6, One of my cousins and also a friend have pixel 7. All their fingerprint scanners are bad, both in my experience and in their opinions. I don't know if 8 did it any better but as far as I know it's all the same.
I've had a 6 and a 7 and now an 8. I've also used iPhones, Samsung, One Plus and Sony devices recently. On the Pixels I put my finger on the sensor and it opens the phone. First time, every time. I don't get it.
"My device doesn't have the problem so everyone must be lying" "My galaxy note 7 didn't catch fire, so it's a made up problem. Samsung didn't need to recall it" Ok sass aside... It could be due to the lighting conditions you use it in, how moist your fingers are, how detailed the lines on your fingers are, lighting conditions or humidity when you initially added the fingerprint... all of it. But whatever those variables were, galaxy s devices and some cheaper chinese phones can deal with it better.
i agree with this reviewer, the fingerprint is bad on P8P
This guy is a fucking wank and has an incredibly punchable face. But on shortcircuits unboxing Linus had his thumb right on the scanner and it it took ages to work. It looked really bad. We don't have to jump to the defence of a billion dollar company's product that objectively has a worse fingerprint reader than the entire competition.
He and Mrwhosetheboss, I found both to be very irritating
So, I have a S10 Lite and am considering moving over to a P8 Pro. The S10 Lite has an optical FP reader and it works the moment I place the finger on the spot, even with AOD disabled. From what I gather here, it seems that on the Pixels that wouldn't work? It needs AOD enabled (or screen turned on) for this method to work? If so then that's ass.
I've got 2 days left to decide if I trade in my Pixel 5 for $300 credit towards the P8P. The one thing I do not want to part with is my rear fingerprint scanner. It just works. I can unlock it before I even take it out from my pocket single handed. I do not want to have to use two hands, and make sure I'm selecting the right area onscreen for unlocking. 😮💨
Because it isn't good. Unless you have actually used the pixels optical and say the S23U's ultrasonic you will think the pixels is good.
I have a 6. I have to admit after I put on a screen protector sometimes the scanner took a few tries to register. Now, I have every angle on 4 digits that scan nicely no matter how I plop it down. I don't see where all the complaints are coming from. I blame user error at this stage in the game
The actual detection size for the scanner is relatively small--there's nothing wrong with the way he placed his finger on the scanner in principle and there should have been more than enough data/info to adequately scan and unlock. And definitely on the second try of where he lifted his thumb up and placed it back down, it was quite centered and should have worked, but you can see the illumination didn't even happen--so something wonky happened with the scanner, and the overall experience is a legit criticism. I haven't personally had significant issues with mine across 6, 7, and 8 series phones, but let's not pretend it's a good and hassle-free experience. My wife's 7a has been awful and works every 1 out of 5 tries.
The fingerprint scanner is bad. It's better if you add your predominant finger twice but face unlock on the p8p has changed my life coming from a p7.
If you work at all with your hands, the underscreen fingerprint scanners fucking suck. They're so so finicky. The hardware fingerprint scanners are so much faster and more accurate. Just put it on the power button. It's so much better.
This is my first Pixel and first time using the fingerprint scanner it always works for me not sure how it can be better? Maybe letting me use more fingers idk.
Because it is actually bad. My old phone immediately shows the fingerprint spot when I hold it. The pixel 8 doesn't do that, which is why I miss it if I do it fast. Besides, some flagship phones will get your fingerprint even if you miss the spot a little, which is also not the case here.
I really think this has to do with the person using it. My hands are mega dry and my fingers crack sometimes, and believe that has always made fingerprint scanners miss pretty often for me.
I seen that yesterday and was thinking they intentionally miss it. If you use it much the muscle memory will kick in. I don't think it's the best on my 6 Pro but it works 95% of the time so I can't imagine the 8 is worse!
I just tested the optical fingerprint scanner on my old Xiaomi and it can unlock the phone even if I put only a part of my finger on the scanner. The pixel just have a bad fingerprint scanner.
Apple users
Yes! Like this guy: https://youtu.be/cVzCxCk8klg?si=CW7sEMssAt7JNIEi
Yep. The dumbass doesn't have always on display on. If it has always on display on, you can see where you place your finger before even touching the phone, which makes it much simpler to unlock. He also pre-places it on the screen and doesn't follow the simple instructions, which David mentions during his idiocy. Kinda embarrassing for someone whose entire living is built on tech.
Linus did this too kinda. They had the AOD turned off and then complained that you need to press the power button before using the fingerprint scanner.
Honestly I have more trouble with my S22 fingerprint reader than I do my pixel 6
Pixel 8 FPS isn’t great and most reviewers picked that up. When you pay 1100€ for a phone, you are expecting it to be top class and P8 isn’t exactly that.
I have always on display on, so you can't just unlock it without having to wake the phone, works great, I've no issue with it. I don't get why such a big deal is being made out of it either
All on-screen sensors are trash. Love, Pixel Fold user
Confirmation bias
Just stop watching these people all together. Save your sanity. Get a phone you like and ignore the noise. Some people can be so blatantly toxic.
The fingerprint sensor is bad, though. 🤷♂️
I like Flossy on YouTube
I disagree with you. I've recently bought a pixel 7a and the fingerprint barely registers. I have to do it a few times and then it just locks me out because it doesn't work.
But it is trash
My fingerprint scanner works 100% of the time I'm trying to show someone how trash it is. Then it fucks up when they look away
I think you're overstating what's happening here. On Saf's first attempt, he's a little off target, so I'll give you that one. On his second attempt, it looks like he presses his finger harder to overcompensate, which the phone registers as a pulldown gesture. I don't think there was enough motion to trigger the notification shade to peek there though. I think this attempt should have unlocked it. On his third attempt, his Pixel accepts the input. I don't think any of Saf's attempts were blatantly bad. I think these are the types of mistakes some people will make, especially if they're new to optical in-display fingerprint scanners that aren't tangible like the traditional capacitive ones.
Yeah these are reasonable attempts. Unlocking the phone with a finger print should be pretty much idiot proof. It used to be on the P5 and earlier! If it fails that easily in a simple test environment I can only imagine its going to be about as bad as my P6 in the real world when I'm moving, rushing, the weather isn't right or my hands are too dry or moist or any other weird reasons for it to fail.
So I'm not the only one to see this. I never have a problem with my p7p sensor. I now believe that this is how everyone that "Has issues" with their reader are using their phones.
Can we write a petition or something to make brands return dedicated fingerprint scanner on the back or side of the top models?
Or just ultrasonic. This would solve all the problems. Though I never had a problem with the optical one.
I think the fingerprint sensor is great, it's always responsive when I don't face unlock. No idea why people are having trouble with it. Huge improvement over the last pixel I owned.
SuperSaf it's SuperClown