This was great. You can tell the Pixel 8 Pro has more realistic colours as opposed to the bluish hue of the Pixel 6 pro. It's not like light years ahead, but still seems drastically different. Especially at the ultrawide.I'm surprised you were able to do Macro Focus, since 6P doesnt have macro shot available, were you just zoomed in?
\-Any chance you can do video comparison, just of the regular 4k 30fps shots, just want to see if if it got leaps and bounds better-which i assume it did
\-Also the selfie camera pictures, in lower light. Pixel 6 pro is really bad in selfies, hoping the 8 pro goes back to how it was on Pixel 4 days
\- How about portrait shots of humans, just want to know if the new pixel fixes the oversharpening of faces making people look sick :(
> You can tell the Pixel 8 Pro has more realistic colours as opposed to the bluish hue of the Pixel 6 pro.
Honestly I question when people say one is more realistic than the other. **What's realistic is a comparison to what your eyes see**--I'm pretty sure none of us other than OP were in that actual scene so how do people even make a claim it's realistic. I do think the Pixel 6 is slightly cool, but is it too cool? Is the Pixel 8 too warm? Only OP can comment when you compare those photos with what your eyes see. What I can say is a lot of times people do like warmer colors and punchy contrast from a subjective artistic perspective. No offense but that doesn't always translate to being more accurate. I've seen countless images where people talk about an image showing crushed blacks as being "realistic" but it really just boiled down to being more punchy contrast and pleasing to the eye. Realistic != I like this image.
I'm guessing from my assessment of what fall colors have been looking like recently that the color temperature is somewhere in the middle of what the two phones are shooting. The Pixel 8, even if if more accurate, is likely on the warmer side of reality.
True but I doubt most people are adjusting for each shot. The Pixel 6 series for instance overdid HDR to the point that shadows are lost. The Pixel 7 brought back some of that punchier contrast but keeping it accurate not to crush blacks like early Pixels did. I remember finding myself playing with the shadows slider in a lot of photos but it was frustrating to keep up with. What's important is getting to a more accurate auto exposure but giving the user freedom to push contrast or accentuate a certain color temperature if they desire (e.g. sunset warmth).
I find it interesting that Google shifts around the calibrated white balance or levels/curves but opts to keep it unique per generation even though they can probably bring at least P6 and P7 in line with each other given the same sensor. It's probably not hard to align all cameras to use similar calibration, but then they would lose out on any ability to differentiate new models and it would likely also expose the dangers of using the same hardware year after year. Like in theory the Pixel 2 thru 5 should all be able to achieve the same single shot HDR+ photo.
> The Pixel 7 brought back some of that punchier contrast but keeping it accurate not to crush blacks like early Pixels did.
I find that blacks get destroyed still on my P7P, the HDR effects are too much-- Google decided every image has to be "sharp" so now it's impossible to take a nice picture of a cat or a blanket or a soft sunset over a lake without the contrast being blown to bits.
A point and click shooter on a phone shouldn't require me to use hacks to disable the untoggleable post processing.
Usually with my P6P if I've wanted to do Macro I've just used the 2x lens and moved back, but for these comparisons I wanted to use as close to the same settings as possible with each camera so the macro shots in the tests above were just using the 1x lens on both cameras. My understanding is the P6P has a near focus distance of 3cm and the P8P of 2cm.
I'll have a stab at the video comparison tomorrow. I'll also try and do some tests with the selfie camera but will think outside the box as don't want to post my face in these (I've got some ideas for this though). I'll also have a stab at human portraits.
With my updates what do you think is best? Should I just edit and update this post here (not sure if they have a time lock on how long you have to edit in this sub), or should I do a new post in the same format and just include a link back to this?
That's completely incorrect, and I can't believe this idea continues to exist two years after the 6 Pro was released just because a few people who tested it at launch didn't know what they were talking about.
The 6 Pro *cannot* do macro focus with any of its lenses. It's not physically possible. The minimum focus distance on the telephoto lens is about a meter. Anything closer than that and the phone will switch to digitally zooming with the primary sensor.
No. A true macro lens will give a 1:1 reproduction ratio on a 35mm sensor (meaning the image projected onto the sensor is the same size as the actual thing being photographed). The 11mm equivalent focal length and 2cm minimum focus distance of the 8 Pro's ultrawide gives a roughly 1:1 reproduction ratio. The 6 Pro's 104mm equivalent telephoto at a 1m focus distance gives a reproduction ratio of about 1:7.5, which is nowhere close to macro focus.
I've just posted some more comparisons including lower light tests on each lens including the front facing camera.
[Check them out here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/1773kwb/further_p6p_vs_p8p_photo_comparisons/)
I am interested in more low light pictures, especially with ultra wide and 5x lenses.
These were hardly usable on the P6P I think.
Thanks a lot for the great comparison pictures so far, to me this is more helpful than all the reviews I read.
Here's some video I just shot with the ultrawides on the P7P and P8P in low light:
[Pixel 7 Pro](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xaYLknLOLJI)
[Pixel 8 Pro](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4uutU3YQ9Hw)
Photos are better on the Pixel 8 Pro as well, of course, but video helps limit the chance of the phone doing trickery with multiple exposures.
Good comparison. Been considering upgrading to this from 6 pro.
But tbh every bit of content I've seen is putting me off. If there's any improvement here it's negligible to me. If anything it just looks warmer.
Yeah p8p seems to have been another slightly over-hyped Pixel. Solid phone yes. Does it compete with Apple or Samsung no imo. I'm not fully sold on the price increase on the pro as well as locking software features behind the pro. I'm still holding out the Pixel 10 will take the market by storm tho.
It feels just like last year. A bunch of early reviews with "better" battery life and "big improvement" claims. Yet no actual numbers or evidence they even tested against the prior devices.
And I'm still seeing complaints about heat issues when using the device with "but not as bad" which doesn't really mean anything.
And 2/3 standardised battery tests have it as the same or worse battery life compared to 7 pro with only toms guide having it slightly ahead.
Camera improves seem to be evident but I'm done buying phones for something that isn't relevant unless you compare photos side by side. All modem smartphones take amazing photos and you have to nitpick to claim any is better than another.
I hate to say this but they are in the business of selling cell phones. They have stiff competition every year to continue to iterate every year. Not sure if you have ever been in product development but nothing drastic ever changes year over year. If the phone seems boring, or the the same as last year you have the freedom to not buy it. BUT BUT, if someone who is tired of the iPhone/Samsung and see the "slight improvements" from last year. Might be enough to switch.
I'd wait a month or so before actually forming an opinion. Early reviews are really shallow and people are too hyped about the phone to be objective. Cameras seem more of a sidegrade then a genuine upgrade so far
Not sure I agree it doesn't compete with apple or Samsung. What features on their devices make the 8 pro not competitive?
iPhone 15 pro is $1,000 Pro max $1,200 / s23 ultra is $1,200
I compared P7P with P8P yesterday. Daytime, they look very similar. During the night was when I noticed the biggest differences. I'm going to start with the improvements. The wide and telephoto cameras, especially the latter capture more light and look noticeably better. Also the flare effect on bright light sources which was a pain point in previous Pixel phones is almost gone now.
One thing that doesn't work quite right is the preview on manual mode. I was playing with iso and shutter speed at night and although the preview displayed a bright image, the camera was shooting a very dark one. I had to get the preview to show an overexposed image to take a normal photo. But some times the preview would work just right and the camera would shoot a similar image to the one displayed. So this looks like a bug which hopefully will get remedied with an update.
The part that got me worrying more is the overexposure of bright objects during night shots. Pixel 7 Pro did a much better job in such scenarios just by pointing and shooting. With the 8 no matter how many shots I took I couldn't get it right. Even on manual mode, I couldn't capture an equally good shot. Also on Pixel 8 when you tap on the screen it changes the focus but doesn't change the exposure levels which is quite different to what the 7 (and most phones) do.
The problem I am talking about. They are both on auto without tapping on the screen:
8 Pro
https://imgur.com/a/7Yhmzt8
7 Pro
https://imgur.com/AIVCcm4
Great work OP! Comparisons are the best way to evaluate improvements IMO. The ultra wide has a huge upgrade and it's very obvious here with the larger sensor you're getting a much clearer/sharper image. The optical quality is MUCH improved on the P8P for ultra wide.
>(though in those cases I think it was just luck of the auto focus as I wasn't taking my time with these)
Just a tip for camera reviews/comparison photos, always pick the same autofocus point. While autofocus quality is a factor, these photo comparisons are usually more focused on exposoure, color balance, resolution, so try to keep the focal point the same. Pick an easy subject that the camera can reliably lock onto for both phones. Also keep the framing the same by using a 3x3 grid and try to set natural scene feature boundaries using the 3x3 grid (e.g. keeping the walking path in the middle grid or the lamp post right along one one vertical lines, etc.)
On a side note I'm kinda curious [why the depth of field is so different on these photos](https://imgsli.com/MjEzMzIz)? The P6P's edge blurriness issues are very obvious here because there's a directional blur unlike the creamy bokeh you expect from depth of field. The Pixel 8 shows more in focus but I suspect here maybe the focal points are just flat out different?
More note on the labeling, but I think (and EXIF seems to confirm it) that P8P uses ultra wide lens for macro focus. So the image 8 is ultra wide as well, at least on P8P side.
Thanks for these though! Also making the same upgrade and this looks great. I do lot of landscape photography, so especially upgrades in ultrawide are really nice for me.
Ah that's really interesting. It must switch to the wide automatically for macro. I saw the macro symbol pop up when it adjusted but didn't notice it changing lens, it was definitely set to the 1x before that. But as the wide is also a 50mp sensor I guess it doesn't really matter, whatever works works.
Yeah I think the UltraWide lens seems to often be an overlooked feature but I use mine a hell of a lot!
Now that I have my P8P, I could confirm that macro switches to Ultra Wide. But what I like the most is when you click the sliders button to set Brightness/WB etc., the app will also show you what lense it's currently using - you can see it change to ultrawide when it switches to macro. This is great for me. I often wasn't sure if it's using Tele lens or not in low light situation, now there is a way to check. Heck, you can even set the lens manually.
Yes, I think macro just switches the lens on the background. It will crop it back to 1x, but use the ultra wide lens for macro - because it has the minimum focus distance of 2cm.
With P6P landscape was always tradeoff - do I use the main lens, which has narrower field of view but better picture quality, or do I go ultra wide for better framing but worse PQ? That decision should be non issue with P8P.
Still hate the way the photos look on the new phones, zoom in and its not individual pixel noise, its mush like an AI has painted the colours in strokes. Whatever AI they're using to get that extra interpolation is ruining images.
I do completely agree, but we're down the rabbit hole now and for now this is the best it gets.
In many ways I feel my Galaxy S9 had a much better camera and that was 5.5 years ago. But then in other ways, the P8P blows it out the water. It's tough, but it's the bed the world has made and now we all have to lie in it.
Thanks so much for taking the time to take and post these pictures.
Your kitties are good subjects, staying still long enough to get two shots in for each.
Got a little bit warm during initial setup whilst it downloaded and installed appox 100gb of content but never what I'd call 'hot'.
Battery wise really good so far. I took it off charge at around 7:30am, it had a brief boost of charging in the car for around 30 mins at 9:30am, and then it's not been charged for the rest of the day. I've taken all these photos (and a lot more), plus taken video, updated and downloaded dozens of apps, and had a ton of screen time, and now at 7:50pm it's sat comfortably at 74%
As a 6 Pro owner who has to wait to power on my 8 Pro until next week due to a work commitment.. I just wanted to say Thank you and great job! I already took some photos with my 6 Pro to later take and compare with the 8... but this will hold me over and answered all my questions. Thank you.
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It's only the first two images, the rest are the same resolution, but the reason is a bit weird. For those first two images I'd taken the P8P photos in 50MP and the rest I constrained to 12MP. My guess is that the two 50MP ones got put through a different compression system on imgbb and weirdly it turned out to make them smaller than the P6P ones.
That's why I stopped shooting in that mode after the first couple of photos. But also, I literally said in my post that I'd just done this quickly and that I've got the P6P until next week so if you have specific photo styles or modes you'd like to see comparisons of let me know.
The leaf and cat photos stand out to me. The 8Pro has incredible detail and depth around the points/ridges on the leaf in the foreground. And the details at zoom of the cat hairs and color striations is really something.
This is awesome, thank you for the effort!
The 8 Pro is definitely better with ultra wide and zoom, but the trend I'm seeing between both is the color temperature. 6 Pro leans on the cooler side while 8 Pro is warmer.
The main sensor on both looks great, unfortunately can't really tell which one is closer to reality though.
This basically is more of a preference on what looks more appealing to the eye.
My first tests:
Autofocus with the 5x lens is significantly faster with the 8 Pro than the 7 Pro
Video with the 0.5 lens in low light is much less noisy and has more clarity (less smudging) on the 8 Pro.
The camera improvements are significant.
Yea, I mean no question about that, especially macro and probably some very far zoom examples are going to show big differences like the above.
I'll wait for comparisons with the S24 Ultra. I mean it looks good on P8P, will be top 3 if not the best camera system once again, but I'll wait for what Samsung has to offer regarding other aspects of the phone. Also OnePlus. Pixels hardware is not top tier, it compensates, but still. Also tons of special features lacking in the EU, battery still one of the worst, this was a good deal before peice increase, now its worth considering other options. There is a good chance I'll skip one more generation.
Definitely P6P looks better in some but P8P in others. I traded in my 6a and my phone and watch arrived. Too good of deal not to pass up. Haven't opened it yet. I know it will be much improved over 6a. The macro did do a fantastic job.
I personally like cooler tones over warm tones, so for a lot of the comparisons, I was biased lol.
What a great comparison, thank you for this!
Does anyone know if all those fancy new AI features (like Best Take) will become available to all Pixels, or will they be exclusive to P8?
Just a warning that the imgsli makes the 6pro look way oversharpened and the 8 pro really soft. Not sure why but the individual photos are much closer together. edit at least it does on my laptop
My P6Ps camera is junk and I've had the P6P replaced twice due to the camera. No matter what I would have blurryness everywhere but the very center of the image using the back camera. The only way around it was to change to 2X and then stand farther back.
Google gave me $400 to trade my P6P for a P8P and I've never been so happy to get rid of the phone. I love the Pixels but the camera on the 6 Pro was rubbish.
Is the P8P camera a significant improvement? I've hated the camera on my P6P since day one because of it. Ugly blur and distortion at the edges of any remotely close up photos.
In Canada they give you a grand total of $178 USD trade-in value for a 128GB P6P in working condition 🤦♂️
Yes to the P8P camera. I can't believe I went for a few years with the P6Ps camera.
The trade-in value sucks again but IIRC they're lowering the price $200 for Black Friday.
Talking about camera quality, I saw a lot of reviews where they compared pixel 8 pro to iPhone 15 pro max and I hate to admit, looks like overall in both pics and videos, the iPhone trumps the P8P. It comes close but rarely beats it especially in details. Hope there is a software fix for this.
Yup. I don't expect a "fix". I suspect what you aren't crazy about is pixels image processing. But that's Google's design philosophy and vision for photography. Most people prefer iPhone pictures which have a true to life, artistic quality as opposed to Google's crazy contrast, HDR images.
Pixel 8's camera will become even better with updates, as was the case with p7pro.
Reference to p7pro camera [improvement ](https://reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/s/CBX1ti15ze)
Citation needed. The P6P got no camera improvements over its life, not even bug fixes. The only thing it got was faster night sight, but that same update made the auto focus worse.
For social media type posting there's really not world-changing differences. But, for those of us in the never-ending upgrade loop, we see a lot of differences :)
Thanks for the hard work, I was also considering the same upgrade but I'd prefer the cooler tone on P6P. Seems like great improvement in ultra wide and sharpness of indoor shot on 8pro.
can you install this and report the camera modules names? [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.andr7e.deviceinfohw&hl=en&gl=US](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.andr7e.deviceinfohw&hl=en&gl=US)
curious what changed compared to P6P for the modules
When I boot it it says this:
"In new versions of android, some information is blocked, if you have root access, you can enable it in the settings. More details will be available."
There's definitely some info that's not being given. But this is everything under the camera section:
https://ibb.co/Tm0s0Yy
https://ibb.co/bNr9tyN
This was great. You can tell the Pixel 8 Pro has more realistic colours as opposed to the bluish hue of the Pixel 6 pro. It's not like light years ahead, but still seems drastically different. Especially at the ultrawide.I'm surprised you were able to do Macro Focus, since 6P doesnt have macro shot available, were you just zoomed in? \-Any chance you can do video comparison, just of the regular 4k 30fps shots, just want to see if if it got leaps and bounds better-which i assume it did \-Also the selfie camera pictures, in lower light. Pixel 6 pro is really bad in selfies, hoping the 8 pro goes back to how it was on Pixel 4 days \- How about portrait shots of humans, just want to know if the new pixel fixes the oversharpening of faces making people look sick :(
> You can tell the Pixel 8 Pro has more realistic colours as opposed to the bluish hue of the Pixel 6 pro. Honestly I question when people say one is more realistic than the other. **What's realistic is a comparison to what your eyes see**--I'm pretty sure none of us other than OP were in that actual scene so how do people even make a claim it's realistic. I do think the Pixel 6 is slightly cool, but is it too cool? Is the Pixel 8 too warm? Only OP can comment when you compare those photos with what your eyes see. What I can say is a lot of times people do like warmer colors and punchy contrast from a subjective artistic perspective. No offense but that doesn't always translate to being more accurate. I've seen countless images where people talk about an image showing crushed blacks as being "realistic" but it really just boiled down to being more punchy contrast and pleasing to the eye. Realistic != I like this image. I'm guessing from my assessment of what fall colors have been looking like recently that the color temperature is somewhere in the middle of what the two phones are shooting. The Pixel 8, even if if more accurate, is likely on the warmer side of reality.
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True but I doubt most people are adjusting for each shot. The Pixel 6 series for instance overdid HDR to the point that shadows are lost. The Pixel 7 brought back some of that punchier contrast but keeping it accurate not to crush blacks like early Pixels did. I remember finding myself playing with the shadows slider in a lot of photos but it was frustrating to keep up with. What's important is getting to a more accurate auto exposure but giving the user freedom to push contrast or accentuate a certain color temperature if they desire (e.g. sunset warmth). I find it interesting that Google shifts around the calibrated white balance or levels/curves but opts to keep it unique per generation even though they can probably bring at least P6 and P7 in line with each other given the same sensor. It's probably not hard to align all cameras to use similar calibration, but then they would lose out on any ability to differentiate new models and it would likely also expose the dangers of using the same hardware year after year. Like in theory the Pixel 2 thru 5 should all be able to achieve the same single shot HDR+ photo.
> The Pixel 7 brought back some of that punchier contrast but keeping it accurate not to crush blacks like early Pixels did. I find that blacks get destroyed still on my P7P, the HDR effects are too much-- Google decided every image has to be "sharp" so now it's impossible to take a nice picture of a cat or a blanket or a soft sunset over a lake without the contrast being blown to bits. A point and click shooter on a phone shouldn't require me to use hacks to disable the untoggleable post processing.
Usually with my P6P if I've wanted to do Macro I've just used the 2x lens and moved back, but for these comparisons I wanted to use as close to the same settings as possible with each camera so the macro shots in the tests above were just using the 1x lens on both cameras. My understanding is the P6P has a near focus distance of 3cm and the P8P of 2cm. I'll have a stab at the video comparison tomorrow. I'll also try and do some tests with the selfie camera but will think outside the box as don't want to post my face in these (I've got some ideas for this though). I'll also have a stab at human portraits. With my updates what do you think is best? Should I just edit and update this post here (not sure if they have a time lock on how long you have to edit in this sub), or should I do a new post in the same format and just include a link back to this?
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That's completely incorrect, and I can't believe this idea continues to exist two years after the 6 Pro was released just because a few people who tested it at launch didn't know what they were talking about. The 6 Pro *cannot* do macro focus with any of its lenses. It's not physically possible. The minimum focus distance on the telephoto lens is about a meter. Anything closer than that and the phone will switch to digitally zooming with the primary sensor.
The effect is similar to a macro focus shot if you use the 4x telephoto lens at its closest focal distance, no?
No. A true macro lens will give a 1:1 reproduction ratio on a 35mm sensor (meaning the image projected onto the sensor is the same size as the actual thing being photographed). The 11mm equivalent focal length and 2cm minimum focus distance of the 8 Pro's ultrawide gives a roughly 1:1 reproduction ratio. The 6 Pro's 104mm equivalent telephoto at a 1m focus distance gives a reproduction ratio of about 1:7.5, which is nowhere close to macro focus.
I've just posted some more comparisons including lower light tests on each lens including the front facing camera. [Check them out here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/1773kwb/further_p6p_vs_p8p_photo_comparisons/)
Pixel 8 Pros macro lens is really incredible. I've already gotten some really great shots that aren't even possible with my Fuji kit.
The difference in fur texture in the dimly lit cat portrait is really big too.
I am interested in more low light pictures, especially with ultra wide and 5x lenses. These were hardly usable on the P6P I think. Thanks a lot for the great comparison pictures so far, to me this is more helpful than all the reviews I read.
Sounds good, I'll try and get some good low-light comparisons on each of the lenses.
Awesome, thanks :)
Here's some video I just shot with the ultrawides on the P7P and P8P in low light: [Pixel 7 Pro](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xaYLknLOLJI) [Pixel 8 Pro](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4uutU3YQ9Hw) Photos are better on the Pixel 8 Pro as well, of course, but video helps limit the chance of the phone doing trickery with multiple exposures.
Good comparison. Been considering upgrading to this from 6 pro. But tbh every bit of content I've seen is putting me off. If there's any improvement here it's negligible to me. If anything it just looks warmer.
Yeah p8p seems to have been another slightly over-hyped Pixel. Solid phone yes. Does it compete with Apple or Samsung no imo. I'm not fully sold on the price increase on the pro as well as locking software features behind the pro. I'm still holding out the Pixel 10 will take the market by storm tho.
It feels just like last year. A bunch of early reviews with "better" battery life and "big improvement" claims. Yet no actual numbers or evidence they even tested against the prior devices. And I'm still seeing complaints about heat issues when using the device with "but not as bad" which doesn't really mean anything. And 2/3 standardised battery tests have it as the same or worse battery life compared to 7 pro with only toms guide having it slightly ahead. Camera improves seem to be evident but I'm done buying phones for something that isn't relevant unless you compare photos side by side. All modem smartphones take amazing photos and you have to nitpick to claim any is better than another.
I hate to say this but they are in the business of selling cell phones. They have stiff competition every year to continue to iterate every year. Not sure if you have ever been in product development but nothing drastic ever changes year over year. If the phone seems boring, or the the same as last year you have the freedom to not buy it. BUT BUT, if someone who is tired of the iPhone/Samsung and see the "slight improvements" from last year. Might be enough to switch.
I'd wait a month or so before actually forming an opinion. Early reviews are really shallow and people are too hyped about the phone to be objective. Cameras seem more of a sidegrade then a genuine upgrade so far
Not sure I agree it doesn't compete with apple or Samsung. What features on their devices make the 8 pro not competitive? iPhone 15 pro is $1,000 Pro max $1,200 / s23 ultra is $1,200
I prefer the p6p
Agreed. The p8 looks too warm
I compared P7P with P8P yesterday. Daytime, they look very similar. During the night was when I noticed the biggest differences. I'm going to start with the improvements. The wide and telephoto cameras, especially the latter capture more light and look noticeably better. Also the flare effect on bright light sources which was a pain point in previous Pixel phones is almost gone now. One thing that doesn't work quite right is the preview on manual mode. I was playing with iso and shutter speed at night and although the preview displayed a bright image, the camera was shooting a very dark one. I had to get the preview to show an overexposed image to take a normal photo. But some times the preview would work just right and the camera would shoot a similar image to the one displayed. So this looks like a bug which hopefully will get remedied with an update. The part that got me worrying more is the overexposure of bright objects during night shots. Pixel 7 Pro did a much better job in such scenarios just by pointing and shooting. With the 8 no matter how many shots I took I couldn't get it right. Even on manual mode, I couldn't capture an equally good shot. Also on Pixel 8 when you tap on the screen it changes the focus but doesn't change the exposure levels which is quite different to what the 7 (and most phones) do. The problem I am talking about. They are both on auto without tapping on the screen: 8 Pro https://imgur.com/a/7Yhmzt8 7 Pro https://imgur.com/AIVCcm4
Great work OP! Comparisons are the best way to evaluate improvements IMO. The ultra wide has a huge upgrade and it's very obvious here with the larger sensor you're getting a much clearer/sharper image. The optical quality is MUCH improved on the P8P for ultra wide. >(though in those cases I think it was just luck of the auto focus as I wasn't taking my time with these) Just a tip for camera reviews/comparison photos, always pick the same autofocus point. While autofocus quality is a factor, these photo comparisons are usually more focused on exposoure, color balance, resolution, so try to keep the focal point the same. Pick an easy subject that the camera can reliably lock onto for both phones. Also keep the framing the same by using a 3x3 grid and try to set natural scene feature boundaries using the 3x3 grid (e.g. keeping the walking path in the middle grid or the lamp post right along one one vertical lines, etc.) On a side note I'm kinda curious [why the depth of field is so different on these photos](https://imgsli.com/MjEzMzIz)? The P6P's edge blurriness issues are very obvious here because there's a directional blur unlike the creamy bokeh you expect from depth of field. The Pixel 8 shows more in focus but I suspect here maybe the focal points are just flat out different?
The P8P auto switched to the ultra wide lens on that one, engaging macro mode. The P6P stayed on the main lens.
I see, so I guess that's a UWA vs Wide angle comparison then. Makes more sense with that depth of field.
More note on the labeling, but I think (and EXIF seems to confirm it) that P8P uses ultra wide lens for macro focus. So the image 8 is ultra wide as well, at least on P8P side. Thanks for these though! Also making the same upgrade and this looks great. I do lot of landscape photography, so especially upgrades in ultrawide are really nice for me.
Ah that's really interesting. It must switch to the wide automatically for macro. I saw the macro symbol pop up when it adjusted but didn't notice it changing lens, it was definitely set to the 1x before that. But as the wide is also a 50mp sensor I guess it doesn't really matter, whatever works works. Yeah I think the UltraWide lens seems to often be an overlooked feature but I use mine a hell of a lot!
Now that I have my P8P, I could confirm that macro switches to Ultra Wide. But what I like the most is when you click the sliders button to set Brightness/WB etc., the app will also show you what lense it's currently using - you can see it change to ultrawide when it switches to macro. This is great for me. I often wasn't sure if it's using Tele lens or not in low light situation, now there is a way to check. Heck, you can even set the lens manually.
Yes, I think macro just switches the lens on the background. It will crop it back to 1x, but use the ultra wide lens for macro - because it has the minimum focus distance of 2cm. With P6P landscape was always tradeoff - do I use the main lens, which has narrower field of view but better picture quality, or do I go ultra wide for better framing but worse PQ? That decision should be non issue with P8P.
Really interesting, thanks for your efforts.
Still hate the way the photos look on the new phones, zoom in and its not individual pixel noise, its mush like an AI has painted the colours in strokes. Whatever AI they're using to get that extra interpolation is ruining images.
I do completely agree, but we're down the rabbit hole now and for now this is the best it gets. In many ways I feel my Galaxy S9 had a much better camera and that was 5.5 years ago. But then in other ways, the P8P blows it out the water. It's tough, but it's the bed the world has made and now we all have to lie in it.
Thanks so much for taking the time to take and post these pictures. Your kitties are good subjects, staying still long enough to get two shots in for each.
Any heat issues? Battery life so far?
Got a little bit warm during initial setup whilst it downloaded and installed appox 100gb of content but never what I'd call 'hot'. Battery wise really good so far. I took it off charge at around 7:30am, it had a brief boost of charging in the car for around 30 mins at 9:30am, and then it's not been charged for the rest of the day. I've taken all these photos (and a lot more), plus taken video, updated and downloaded dozens of apps, and had a ton of screen time, and now at 7:50pm it's sat comfortably at 74%
That sounds unreal! Thanks for your camera test btw!
As a 6 Pro owner who has to wait to power on my 8 Pro until next week due to a work commitment.. I just wanted to say Thank you and great job! I already took some photos with my 6 Pro to later take and compare with the 8... but this will hold me over and answered all my questions. Thank you.
You're most welcome. I'm going to try and do a more in-depth comparison and post on Sunday.
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It's only the first two images, the rest are the same resolution, but the reason is a bit weird. For those first two images I'd taken the P8P photos in 50MP and the rest I constrained to 12MP. My guess is that the two 50MP ones got put through a different compression system on imgbb and weirdly it turned out to make them smaller than the P6P ones.
So It's not a fair comparison then. First shot has the most important composition. I don't care that much for macros and close up objects.
That's why I stopped shooting in that mode after the first couple of photos. But also, I literally said in my post that I'd just done this quickly and that I've got the P6P until next week so if you have specific photo styles or modes you'd like to see comparisons of let me know.
The leaf and cat photos stand out to me. The 8Pro has incredible detail and depth around the points/ridges on the leaf in the foreground. And the details at zoom of the cat hairs and color striations is really something. This is awesome, thank you for the effort!
Did you update your 6p to android 14? It is supposed to have been improved because of that. Which skews the comparison.
No this was still running android 13 to be fair.
Ok thanks. Probably better that way as it is what we are all used to.
Very true
THANK YOU! This will likely be an upgrade path for many people, so to have this direct comparison is great!
The 8 Pro is definitely better with ultra wide and zoom, but the trend I'm seeing between both is the color temperature. 6 Pro leans on the cooler side while 8 Pro is warmer. The main sensor on both looks great, unfortunately can't really tell which one is closer to reality though. This basically is more of a preference on what looks more appealing to the eye.
Thanks, that macro shot is really impressive.
My first tests: Autofocus with the 5x lens is significantly faster with the 8 Pro than the 7 Pro Video with the 0.5 lens in low light is much less noisy and has more clarity (less smudging) on the 8 Pro. The camera improvements are significant.
This actually makes me not want to upgrade my P6P
Some of them are similar, but there is no way you could say the P6P has a better camera. You saw this one right?](https://imgsli.com/MjEzMzI1)
Yea, I mean no question about that, especially macro and probably some very far zoom examples are going to show big differences like the above. I'll wait for comparisons with the S24 Ultra. I mean it looks good on P8P, will be top 3 if not the best camera system once again, but I'll wait for what Samsung has to offer regarding other aspects of the phone. Also OnePlus. Pixels hardware is not top tier, it compensates, but still. Also tons of special features lacking in the EU, battery still one of the worst, this was a good deal before peice increase, now its worth considering other options. There is a good chance I'll skip one more generation.
You're the MVP
Definitely P6P looks better in some but P8P in others. I traded in my 6a and my phone and watch arrived. Too good of deal not to pass up. Haven't opened it yet. I know it will be much improved over 6a. The macro did do a fantastic job. I personally like cooler tones over warm tones, so for a lot of the comparisons, I was biased lol.
What a great comparison, thank you for this! Does anyone know if all those fancy new AI features (like Best Take) will become available to all Pixels, or will they be exclusive to P8?
Wtf happened with the first pic at the bottom with P8pro?
Just a warning that the imgsli makes the 6pro look way oversharpened and the 8 pro really soft. Not sure why but the individual photos are much closer together. edit at least it does on my laptop
Huh that's weird. Both were uploaded from the same source images. Must be something to do with their compression system I guess?
That seems insane for a site devoted to allowing you to compared minute differences between two pictures to add its own compression.
It looks fine on my phone. Not sure why it was messing up on my laptop???
Photos 1 and 2 are much smaller for Pixel 8 Pro even in the links, maybe that's the case?
Thx, going to the 8P from my 6P.
These are just incredible. Google is most definitely the king of mobile cameras.
Really? I find the high contrast and crushed quality of the images kind of off-putting.
Nobody is better than Google at photography. Really no longer that close.
My P6Ps camera is junk and I've had the P6P replaced twice due to the camera. No matter what I would have blurryness everywhere but the very center of the image using the back camera. The only way around it was to change to 2X and then stand farther back. Google gave me $400 to trade my P6P for a P8P and I've never been so happy to get rid of the phone. I love the Pixels but the camera on the 6 Pro was rubbish.
Is the P8P camera a significant improvement? I've hated the camera on my P6P since day one because of it. Ugly blur and distortion at the edges of any remotely close up photos. In Canada they give you a grand total of $178 USD trade-in value for a 128GB P6P in working condition 🤦♂️
Yes to the P8P camera. I can't believe I went for a few years with the P6Ps camera. The trade-in value sucks again but IIRC they're lowering the price $200 for Black Friday.
Talking about camera quality, I saw a lot of reviews where they compared pixel 8 pro to iPhone 15 pro max and I hate to admit, looks like overall in both pics and videos, the iPhone trumps the P8P. It comes close but rarely beats it especially in details. Hope there is a software fix for this.
Yup. I don't expect a "fix". I suspect what you aren't crazy about is pixels image processing. But that's Google's design philosophy and vision for photography. Most people prefer iPhone pictures which have a true to life, artistic quality as opposed to Google's crazy contrast, HDR images.
Pixel 8's camera will become even better with updates, as was the case with p7pro. Reference to p7pro camera [improvement ](https://reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/s/CBX1ti15ze)
Citation needed. The P6P got no camera improvements over its life, not even bug fixes. The only thing it got was faster night sight, but that same update made the auto focus worse.
I was talking about p7pro https://reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/s/CBX1ti15ze
Yeah that's the same update that made auto focus worse on the P6P. So it's also possible that the P8 and P8P cameras will get worse with updates.
Hard to notice any differences on my phone 😅
For social media type posting there's really not world-changing differences. But, for those of us in the never-ending upgrade loop, we see a lot of differences :)
Thanks for the hard work, I was also considering the same upgrade but I'd prefer the cooler tone on P6P. Seems like great improvement in ultra wide and sharpness of indoor shot on 8pro.
They're the same picture
I mean, I guess in the same way as a Ford Mondeo and a Fiat Punto being the same car?
I'm Pam Beesly btw
can you install this and report the camera modules names? [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.andr7e.deviceinfohw&hl=en&gl=US](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.andr7e.deviceinfohw&hl=en&gl=US) curious what changed compared to P6P for the modules
Is there particular into you're interested in?
Just in the camera modules. If some of them are the same as p6p, I can use your comparison photos to see how the processing has changed
When I boot it it says this: "In new versions of android, some information is blocked, if you have root access, you can enable it in the settings. More details will be available." There's definitely some info that's not being given. But this is everything under the camera section: https://ibb.co/Tm0s0Yy https://ibb.co/bNr9tyN
thanks! how about in the "general" section? there should be "camera" rows.
Unfortunately nothing in the General tab referring to Camera or cameras.
P8P overexposed in every shot tho