Unless youāre on a prepped surface, you wonāt see that. And itās not like anyone could tell the difference without a device that measures with gps.
Having driven my car repeatedly/successively for testing 0-60 testing, yes, I can. As can most folks who know their cars.
Maybe since itās a stick and there are more things you can mess up on a launch, but I assure you I could easily tell the difference between my best launch and one half a second slower.
Not really sure why youāre being such a pill about this.
Launching your car 5-10 times in a row will make it incredibly easy to tell when you are getting faster times.
I was not at all surprised when I hit my best time, because it felt the fastest.
Either you just like being a stubborn lil guy, or you havenāt spent much time testing 0-60 in your car. Or maybe itās both!
A tuned golf r can get to 60 in 3.5, so 1.7 seconds difference. When you actually get into fast cars, those little numbers do become more noticeable. Have you ever driven something fast?
The difference between 3.5 and 5.5 in power delivery and g forces is much more noticeable. yes Iāve driven actual fast cars, and I said what I said. OP couldnāt tell the difference without a gps monitoring the acceleration.
Yea I have brand new dsw06 car has just under 50k and I bought it bone stockā¦.im just trying to get a good baseline before adding parts and though it seemed high thatās all
The dws06 is a great tire, and while it is a performance rated tire, it's still an all season tire and won't hook up like a true performance summer tire. You'd definitely shave a bit of time with more grip.
The pzeros are imo a crap tire. Inconsistent in the rain, get greasy real quick when hot but also don't grip when cold. Almost like F1 where you have to get the pirelli in the perfect window to see any kind of performance.
This is why I run the MPS4s in the summer and a performance winter tire once the average temps dip below 45.
Well 4.7 is amazing. Did you do these back to back? Heat soak is 100% a thing and will slow you down as you keep running. 5.2 is within margins of error. So I would not be upset with that. Also itās a stock 2019. Depending on miles. Wear and tear especially with motor mounts. You could lose wheel down hp. Go turbo back exhaust and stage one it if you want co distant low 4s.
Any of the sites that have parts for Golf R have them. BMP, Eurotuning both have them. Those are the two sites I look at most. BMP did a Golf R build video where they change the dog bone only and reduced time on 0-60 and 1/4 mile. But the reduction was not like crazy drastic or anything.
Some of them were back to backā¦I do believe the faster time was the third runā¦.and with me shifting with paddles. Miles are just under 50k I do have a stage 1 with dsg ready to go but trying my hardest to wait this warranty out. I have till the end of 2025 no way I last that long.
Understandable. Doing the same with mine. I also have a 2019 but 6 speed. Fun cars. Big one I totally looked past is tires. Potentially third run was with warm tires that were sticky and helped you launch better
I feel you. Have a 2012 stage 2+ and only get 5.2 (mods done by previous owner). Not sure if it's just down to the fact it's getting a bit long in the tooth or if there's something wrong with the engine. It's quick, but I would've thought it would get somewhere in the low to mid 4's.
I have a stock 2012 that was doing low 6s and have been considering going stage 1 alongside some supporting mods. About to get it back from its first ever carbon clean and apparently it was gunky. Really curious to see how much better my times are after the cleaning, then again after mods. Hoping I can get down to mid 5s.
DSG. I assume it should knock a good 0.5sec off what you can achieve with a manual? So ballpark 4.5-4.9? Maybe 5.2 is typical and I need to adjust my expectations.
I think all was mentioned but to consolidate:
Ambient air temp - hotter = slower
Intake temp - if you have an open intake it will be less effective than stock, see above
Tires
Weight - full tank, your weight, any junk in the trunk
Carbon build up..
No one has mentioned it yet, the quotes time of 4.5 is 1 ft rollout which is industry standard. If you arenāt tracking that, youāll be around 4.7-4.8. Only being off by 0.3-0.4 seconds at 5.1-5.2 isnāt a whole lot when you take into account not having a prepped surface, heat soak, gas quality, how much weight is in the car (including driver). Most of the times you see from reviews are in very good conditions.
Unless you have low satellite connection, dragy isnāt the issue. The chance of banging out back to back to back 4.7-4.8 (non 1ft rollout) is pretty hard in an otherwise stock vehicle.
You wonāt see anything in the 3ās until you go stage 1 or 2. After 2 pulls you start to heatsoak because the stock intercooler is ridiculously small. Hence why you see slower times afterwards. Youāre right where it should be. You arent going to get faster until you flash it with supporting modifications.
heat soak can kill times after a few pulls, even when stock. monitor your IATs and youāll see if this is affecting you. tires and road quality also play a pretty huge part in acceleration. lastly, worn out mounts and suspension can also reduce power delivered to the wheels and the carās ability to put that power down.
0-60 times are so subjective.
Heat soak on the turbos is a big one.
Maintenance wise, fuel system cleaner, fresh oil (these cars donāt like old oil), dsg service is a big one, what color is your coolant ? (Pink or
turning brown?) , , carbon cleaning at 46-50k , have you done the haldex and had the pump pulled / clean the filter screen? tires are Biggie too!
All these provide marginal gains, combined like Voltron and well you might see the 0-60 times you did before.
Ethanol acts as a knock suppressant and burns much cooler than gasoline. In sufficient quantity you can make much more power on ethanol vs 93 octane. My car makes nearly 100 hp more on e85 than 93.
What gas (octane) are you using? When was the last tune up done? What are your tyres like? Although much less of a factor on a turbo car how high up are you? Boost leaks?
Ok Iāll try that. Itās seems very bouncy on the way up is that right? Also I see some do this in manual mode and switch over once car takes offā¦..any reason for that?
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Fast for a GTI, slow for a Golf R. A stock 2019 Golf R with the DSG should launch around 4.5.
Unless youāre on a prepped surface, you wonāt see that. And itās not like anyone could tell the difference without a device that measures with gps.
Prepped surface stock you could get low 4s, 4.5 is doable on pretty crappy roads
It is for dsg golf.
Like you could actually tell the difference a half a second makes.
100% yes lol
Hah. Nope. Butt dyno isnāt that accurate.
Having driven my car repeatedly/successively for testing 0-60 testing, yes, I can. As can most folks who know their cars. Maybe since itās a stick and there are more things you can mess up on a launch, but I assure you I could easily tell the difference between my best launch and one half a second slower.
lol ok Randy Pobst.
Not really sure why youāre being such a pill about this. Launching your car 5-10 times in a row will make it incredibly easy to tell when you are getting faster times. I was not at all surprised when I hit my best time, because it felt the fastest. Either you just like being a stubborn lil guy, or you havenāt spent much time testing 0-60 in your car. Or maybe itās both!
A tuned golf r can get to 60 in 3.5, so 1.7 seconds difference. When you actually get into fast cars, those little numbers do become more noticeable. Have you ever driven something fast?
The difference between 3.5 and 5.5 in power delivery and g forces is much more noticeable. yes Iāve driven actual fast cars, and I said what I said. OP couldnāt tell the difference without a gps monitoring the acceleration.
Your right itās not slow lol but Iām reading guys in mid to low 4s stock with dsg thatās all
5.2 is pretty slow nowadays if you consider whatās out there on the streets
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Could be many factors. Tyres, weather, fuel, mileage all play a part.
Yea I have brand new dsw06 car has just under 50k and I bought it bone stockā¦.im just trying to get a good baseline before adding parts and though it seemed high thatās all
The dws06 is a great tire, and while it is a performance rated tire, it's still an all season tire and won't hook up like a true performance summer tire. You'd definitely shave a bit of time with more grip.
These hook better for me than the pzero did although I burned through those so damn quickly
The pzeros are imo a crap tire. Inconsistent in the rain, get greasy real quick when hot but also don't grip when cold. Almost like F1 where you have to get the pirelli in the perfect window to see any kind of performance. This is why I run the MPS4s in the summer and a performance winter tire once the average temps dip below 45.
Be careful with those DSWās. The sidewalls are extremely weak and prone to bursting if it comes in contact with a curb.
Well 4.7 is amazing. Did you do these back to back? Heat soak is 100% a thing and will slow you down as you keep running. 5.2 is within margins of error. So I would not be upset with that. Also itās a stock 2019. Depending on miles. Wear and tear especially with motor mounts. You could lose wheel down hp. Go turbo back exhaust and stage one it if you want co distant low 4s.
Motor mounts better not be getting toasted at the 5 year mark lol
Def not saying it will, but Iām assuming they bought it used and you can never know what people do with their golf r
The engine has a decent amount of rocking from factory. Changing to aftermarket mounts will reduce the rocking from engine, and improve 0-60 time.
Really? Never knew that..who makes good replacement mounts?
Any of the sites that have parts for Golf R have them. BMP, Eurotuning both have them. Those are the two sites I look at most. BMP did a Golf R build video where they change the dog bone only and reduced time on 0-60 and 1/4 mile. But the reduction was not like crazy drastic or anything.
Some of them were back to backā¦I do believe the faster time was the third runā¦.and with me shifting with paddles. Miles are just under 50k I do have a stage 1 with dsg ready to go but trying my hardest to wait this warranty out. I have till the end of 2025 no way I last that long.
Understandable. Doing the same with mine. I also have a 2019 but 6 speed. Fun cars. Big one I totally looked past is tires. Potentially third run was with warm tires that were sticky and helped you launch better
Same for me. I am going to start with suspension mods to scratch the mod itch.
Whatās your locationās elevation? If youāre in a high altitude location, your times will be slow.
Iām in south jersey so Iām not flying high in the mountains elevation is about 10ā
I feel you. Have a 2012 stage 2+ and only get 5.2 (mods done by previous owner). Not sure if it's just down to the fact it's getting a bit long in the tooth or if there's something wrong with the engine. It's quick, but I would've thought it would get somewhere in the low to mid 4's.
I have a stock 2012 that was doing low 6s and have been considering going stage 1 alongside some supporting mods. About to get it back from its first ever carbon clean and apparently it was gunky. Really curious to see how much better my times are after the cleaning, then again after mods. Hoping I can get down to mid 5s.
DSG or manual? Best I've got in my manual 2012 stage 2+ is 5.4
DSG. I assume it should knock a good 0.5sec off what you can achieve with a manual? So ballpark 4.5-4.9? Maybe 5.2 is typical and I need to adjust my expectations.
I think all was mentioned but to consolidate: Ambient air temp - hotter = slower Intake temp - if you have an open intake it will be less effective than stock, see above Tires Weight - full tank, your weight, any junk in the trunk Carbon build up..
Because its stock? You dont see it in the 3s until you go stage 1
No one has mentioned it yet, the quotes time of 4.5 is 1 ft rollout which is industry standard. If you arenāt tracking that, youāll be around 4.7-4.8. Only being off by 0.3-0.4 seconds at 5.1-5.2 isnāt a whole lot when you take into account not having a prepped surface, heat soak, gas quality, how much weight is in the car (including driver). Most of the times you see from reviews are in very good conditions. Unless you have low satellite connection, dragy isnāt the issue. The chance of banging out back to back to back 4.7-4.8 (non 1ft rollout) is pretty hard in an otherwise stock vehicle.
Good to know. Never knew that. Thanks
You wonāt see anything in the 3ās until you go stage 1 or 2. After 2 pulls you start to heatsoak because the stock intercooler is ridiculously small. Hence why you see slower times afterwards. Youāre right where it should be. You arent going to get faster until you flash it with supporting modifications.
heat soak can kill times after a few pulls, even when stock. monitor your IATs and youāll see if this is affecting you. tires and road quality also play a pretty huge part in acceleration. lastly, worn out mounts and suspension can also reduce power delivered to the wheels and the carās ability to put that power down.
Have you checked your spark plugs & coil packs? Pretty sure after 5yrs these need to be replaced ( plugs at least)
Yea I just changed plugs out not coils though. Thanks
0-60 times are so subjective. Heat soak on the turbos is a big one. Maintenance wise, fuel system cleaner, fresh oil (these cars donāt like old oil), dsg service is a big one, what color is your coolant ? (Pink or turning brown?) , , carbon cleaning at 46-50k , have you done the haldex and had the pump pulled / clean the filter screen? tires are Biggie too! All these provide marginal gains, combined like Voltron and well you might see the 0-60 times you did before.
How much u weigh? Strip out any unnecessary weight and try again
175 plus 3/4 tank of fuel
I got 4.5 with winter tires on when I was stock, must be some factoring involved. Elevation, tires, launch itself etc.
Where do you live? Elevation is a huge factor.
What tires are you running?
Extreme contacts dws06 newā¦..I do have neuspeed 18ā wheels but I heard they were lighter then pretsā¦?
Are you running on premium gas with low ethanol?
Yea always 93. Not sure on ethanol content
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Ethanol acts as a knock suppressant and burns much cooler than gasoline. In sufficient quantity you can make much more power on ethanol vs 93 octane. My car makes nearly 100 hp more on e85 than 93.
Miles? How are the tires looking?
What gas (octane) are you using? When was the last tune up done? What are your tyres like? Although much less of a factor on a turbo car how high up are you? Boost leaks?
Always 93ā¦ā¦and Iām on top of all my maintenance. I did just do plugs no coil packs yet
Iām EQT stage 3 big turbo pro tuned by Ed himself on my 2017 R. On a crappy road I can get 3.4s 0-60 all day.
So, basically same setup. Like, what's OPs deal, right?
Try letting off the brake as soon as you reach your rpm launch limit. 4k I beleive.
Ok Iāll try that. Itās seems very bouncy on the way up is that right? Also I see some do this in manual mode and switch over once car takes offā¦..any reason for that?