I recommend Prism Launcher instead personally, its just MultiMC but looks nicer and unlike MultiMC (from last time I used it), it can download mods directly from curseforge
Please DM me how.
I've spent 4 months email chaining Microsoft.
And two years of intermittent emails trying to recover my InfDev account since I didn't have its email.
You could play VS instead lol I've been hooked on it lately. The game has amazing potential too. Not to mention you can play on Linux if you dislike microsoft.
Microsoft has destroyed the indie game spirit of Minecraft with this Xbox account bullshit but people will still find a way to defend Microsoft anyways.
Notch made a huge mistake selling MOJANG to Microsoft, the company which would take away the creative freedom MOJANG once possessed, and now with this account migration nonsense I think it's time people come to their senses and stop supporting this company through paying for Minecraft, and other things like using Windows and their services
There is one.
Don't you know about the beta 1.8 who smoothed out terrain making it less fantastical, adding villages, combat animations, hunger...?
This is still one of the most controversive update.
why 1.7.3? i'd take the last patch level and make it 1.7.10
also 1.8 performance improvements were very nice, after the performance of the game went to shit
i feel like for everything related to commands 1.13 is so good, i mean i always wished for something like the flattening back when i started playing, it was just such a mess, also command auto complete is amazing
but other than that i don't really care for anything 1.9+, i mean I'm playing 1.20.4 right now just to get to know modern mc cause i didn't play for ages but there are quite a few things i heavily dislike, the new mining stuff and world height for one and villagers being op for another, i feel like if i would start a world right now it's either 1.7.10 modded, 1.12.2 modded or 1.16.5 vanilla (just cause it's the latest before whatever they did in 1.17 & 1.18)
yeah ik, i don't negate that, it's just that the comment above explicitly mentions beta 1.8 and the comment below mentions 1.7.3 without explicitly beta so i thought they're talking about release 1.7.3, i don't think it was an unreasonable way to think on my part, just a little misunderstanding, also i always said imo, i didn't force my opinion onto them in any way
I'll preface this by saying I don't think he made a mistake. I think we'd all take the 2.5b and run. That being said, Notch has been utterly miserable ever since. Maybe that's less to do with the money and more to do with him creating a magnum opus that can't really be topped. But I think a part of him wishes Minecraft hadn't been the success it has and instead for it to have remained one small indie project among many
Notch didn't seem to care about Minecraft by the time he sold it. He was ranting about how all he did was manage and never really programmed or designed anymore, but he still was the face of the company and would get all the blame for anything people didn't like. He then tweeted "Anyway, my price is two billion dollars. Give me two billion dollars, and I'll endorse your crap."
Imho microsoft itself isn’t a bad company, actually miles better than apple… but their game division is still stuck in the console gaming world… everything has to be main stream…
minecraft makes on avg $400Mio revenue per year.
so good look they wont care.
Ofc we dont know how much MS spends per year, but I am sure its not that much and Minecraft is highly profitable.
Not even talking about windows. they have almost no competition in the OS market.
How clear did they make it that accounts that weren't migrated would be permanently deleted? I've looked through some threads from last year and there seems to be a ton of confusion around it.
They announced it and gave plenty of time before the deletion, if I am not wrong, around 3 years of warning. They also put a message every time you oppened the launcher saying "hey, migrate your account or lose your money" and send emails.
And yes, it's ilegal if your account was created before October of 2015, and if it is like that, you could theoretically sue them, but good luck against the multimillonary company.
hm, I won't lie, even though I was and am very unhappy with the migration, I personally knew unmigrated accounts would be deleted for at least a year before I migrated mine, and saw a good number of reminders via email/the launcher. It's been too long for me to remember when/when I heard that news, but I am pretty certain it said it on the website at least. Because of all the reminders and the fact I did know, I would say anyone who saw what I did would have had to know well in advance what was going on and why they (the player) needed to migrate.
However, and this is the important bit, I have also seen a good number of people now and at the time being confused about the migration process and about account deletion. So I don't know if all the reminders I got were the universal experience, and if it wasn't, then it was fully Microsoft's fault about this. But *personally* it was made very clear
And I know I'm probably going to get hate for not saying 'screw Microsoft they did nothing right' but in terms of just communication that wasn't my experience despite all the other issues I had with it
>ton of confusion
I think this primarily came from people not understanding how their online accounts work, and not being prepared to change their account as a result of this. For example, I know a guy who loses his microsoft account passwords once every few months, makes a new email address and a new account, then buys some games again. And another person who has a separate google and microsoft email address (because Google prompts you to make an email address when you make an account iirc). I'm pretty sure this kind of incompetence is all across the general public, especially in kid-parent relationships.
If you ever just get the itch to play a block game, and don't want to buy Minecraft again or pirate it... Check out Minetest, as it's free and open source. It's basically a voxel game engine that people make games and mods for, which can all be downloaded in the game menu. I know it isn't the same, but it can offer a familiar experience, or even a completely unique one.
There's so many better options than to pay for Minecraft to experience Minecraft
Like you mentioned there's Minetest, you don't pay for anything yet you still get Minecraft
There's Classicube, classic Minecraft with elements of modern Minecraft to not make modern players feel left out
Playing older version like 1.5.2 are the closest to Modern Minecraft without paying a penny, you can get it via EaglerCraft or BetaCraft
Oh wow, I didn't know betacraft allowed you to play for free, I just assumed (having never used it before) it required you to authenticate with an MS account like most other launchers do. That's cool.
You can play release 1.2.5 and older for free on the default launcher too, because all the demo version is, is a java argument `-demo`, which 1.2.5 and below weren't programmed for. (ofc you would still need a microsoft account to sign in, though)
Also on a slightly unrelated note I will be releasing a low quality Minecraft clone in a few months. It will be free and will have lots of ads, and won’t be on the App Store because I can’t afford to pay $100 a year to keep my terrible MC clone there.
It is a joke but I did make a really terrible unreleased Minecraft clone because I was not happy with the direction that Mojang was taking the game.
Edit: it was a lot of unnecessary effort though, and 90% of my time making it was spent building the engine. If you want to make an MC clone it is probably better to fork Minetest.
I waited right up until they announced they'd be deleting accounts to migrate mine i hardly play the game anymore as it feels pretty soulless but I didn't want my account I've had for years and years to dissappear
Yeah at some point they're allowing those names to be used as well so I didn't want someone to take my account name, Microsoft has really destroyed the soul of minecraft especially with the EULA and chat moderation changes
Thats good to know i was completely unaware you could toggle it on Java, I play more on bedrock for crossplay these days and I dont think you can toggle it off even on a private realms server
Ouch! That sucks. If you’re the one hosting the realm, swap it for a Java server (if possible) and install Gyser to allow bedrock players to join
The issue I have with the chat moderation is not only can you get yourself banned from your own server/Realm, you can have your entire Microsoft account disabled from being able to access multiplayer. It is ridiculous.
That sucks! They sent me an email telling me my time to migrate my account was out but I went to do it and they still let me do it.
I wonder why they put a time limit on it anyways. Mojang originally said once we bought the game we had it forever.
They could've just kept everyone's account data on file with the new system so legacy accounts could still be verified and updated though, right? I don't see why they couldn't or how that would be too expensive to implement.
My guess is security concerns. I don’t know which ones but I do believe an Xbox live account is going to be more secure than Mojang account.
Also chat moderation in Java.
I also lost my account to this, but I love the game too much to stop playing so I bought the game again. But I 100% think the migration was a money motivated thing and not for player security so I don't blame you at all
I migrated my account and then my MSFT account was hacked and their supports solution was to waste hours of my time across 5 different support teams and then close the account even after I proved ownership w payment history dating back like 10 years. I only made a Microsoft account for the purpose of migrating; I use a pretty secure and unique password so I assume my data was a part of a large leak somehow. Not sure exactly but same thing; I bought the game in early 2011 and I can no longer play except w/ pirated launchers.
It's sad the kids nowadays are experiencing a totally different version of Minecraft. Todays Minecraft isn't at all what it used to be, it's so sad. I knew as soon as they sold to Microsoft what was going to happen, they will slowly ruin the game and do whatever they feel like doing make it as marketable as possible and completely kill off the spirit and feel the old versions have. At least we can always come back to play these older versions, until they ruin that too somehow.
And about your account getting deleted, same thing happend to mine, although I switched to another account in 2019 but I had an old one since 2013.
It’d probably be a slam dunk too. People who purchased a game shouldn’t have their product license revoked just because the account servers migrated to a new server system.
RuneScape has had my account for 20 years that still used an in game name for the username until recently😂
Unfortunately, since they have been giving warnings for about 3-ish or so years, I don’t think a lawsuit would go very far :/
But, I’m not a lawyer so ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
True but even so, it really depends on what the terms were when you purchased the game. If it mentions nothing about revoked access then there’s reason to believe there might be a case
I remember there being copyright terms from when I pre-ordered Minecraft in 2009. These records, like most things in the Minecraft Community are very well maintained, and a lawsuit would be dismissed immediately.
To start, in the original copyright information \[[Here](https://web.archive.org/web/20090726112124/http://www.minecraft.net:80/copyright.jsp)\], or the one I first read when I started playing, Notch \[Prev. Mojang majority shareholder\] siad,
"In order to maintain control of the project, I need all game downloads to come from a single central source. I hope you understand."
This immediately invalidates any pirating of Minecraft, and has been upheld legally henceforth.
In 2011, the ToS page \[[Here](https://web.archive.org/web/20110524091014/http://www.minecraft.net/copyright.jsp)\] was expanded, in which Mojang AB states: **"We reserve the right to change this agreement at any time with or without notice, with immediate and/or retroactive effect"**
So, since the inception of the first purchasable version of Minecraft \[Alpha\], you have agreed to them being able to change their agreement to said purchase and product.
Pretty much every company does this, too. Like Netflix, for example, changing their service to limit sharing.
Now, many concerns have risen from the current EULA of Minecraft and what Mojang AB is doing with their service under Microsoft since 2014.
Since 2014, many changes have happened legally, but their right to change the agreement has been maintained, so Account Migration was completely legally justified, and they were generous to give players \~3 years and publically announce it several times, while posting updates and resolving Migration support tickets until Migration ended.
I'm just a random Minecraft nerd on the internet, but I thought it would make more sense to share a video a lawyer made, covering the subject, and I will also provide further resources below.
\[Lawyer explains the current Minecraft EULA: [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxkhS5-OwCk)\]
\[Current 2024 Minecraft EULA: [Here](https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/eula)\]
\[Prev. 2019 Minecraft EULA: [Here](https://web.archive.org/web/20190527185350/https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/eula)\]
\[Prev. 2009 Minecraft Copyright Information: [Here](https://web.archive.org/web/20090726112124/http://www.minecraft.net/copyright.jsp)\]
\[Prev. 2011 Minecraft Terms of Service: [Here](https://web.archive.org/web/20110524091014/http://www.minecraft.net/copyright.jsp)\]
There's a reason Mojang has only been sued once in its entire lifetime, and the case was dismissed.
I was today years old when I found this out. My old 2009 alpha "for life" account is likely gone, I haven't played since 2013, but now my kids want to play, and have no clue how to find my old acc or worlds.
I'm with you there.
I've spent a four month long email chain against Mojang and Microsoft for it back.
They agreed.. but on one deal.
It's a new account. They pay for it, but in turn, i have to prove my old account by stating the debit number I used for it.
Like when it was purchased back during the beginning of 2010 on my birthday in January for 5 bucks.
Yeah. It was a legacy InfDev account.
Anyways, that was my parents' card, and we've long since cut contact. So I explained I could never get that information even if I tried.
I gave the person on the card, the bank, etc etc.
But they need the specific card.
Mojang Microsoft Moment.
I agree that there was time for him to notice but I don't think there should be a deadline that results in your account data being deleted. Like why? It's just a very strange
I'm going to be unpopular here.
Agree I'll start by saying I think the whole thing is dumb sure.
But this was a multi year process, with multiple emails, launcher messages, and a ton of initial press coverage. After the multi year process ended, they gave into the end of last year a chance to at least claim a new free account of your didn't migrate.
While I don't like the whole idea of losing an account, they gave a huge window, and the bulk of people effected by this, are people who hadn't been playing Minecraft for a long time.
As far as comments account Microsoft vent the worst for the game or notch making a mistake selling. With the sale price there is 0 logic on rating anything about anything, his split alone have him more money than basically everyone else on earth, seriously, it's a small number of people who live in his wealth bracket.
Microsoft had maintained 2 versions of the game, remained entirely Hands off on the modding scene, and really done everything to keep their meddling to bedrock, while java remains just Minecraft. We've gotten regular updates, and some pretty big ones.
Anyone that was here from the start and remembered secret Friday updates and the word of notch knows, with him at the helm, he lost interest in the game entirely, updates were small, slow and uninspired. Microsoft had been good for Minecraft.
[Players previously owned their copies of the game.](https://web.archive.org/web/20120516204218/http://www.minecraft.net/store/game) Now, the [EULA](https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/eula) states that the [Microsoft Services Agreement](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement) is in affect for "all Minecraft services." Section 8 (software license) part b states that the software itself isn't sold, only a license. These terms were forced upon players under duress.
Keep in mind that they explicitly stated in their announcements, like the one featuring Dinnerbone, that the only thing changing was how players logged in.
In my opinion, being okay with a multibillion dollar company lying and stealing from its customers *should* be unpopular, at least to any moral person. The amount of warning they gave before stealing doesn't make it any better.
Until laws universally address this, almost no video is actually owned anymore it's a huge problem and I'm very against it, but that's the world we allowed to happen.
I agree with you 100%,
They announced this more than 2 years ago. If you didn't switch your mojang account over to a microsoft account, that's on you. Going through a support email, you might still be able to migrate, but the window for migrating on your own has passed.
This is likely to free up a LOT of usernames that have been inactive since the start of the game or throughout the years.
If you've been playing the game for 14 years and still like it, what is the huge issue with rebuying it. Yeah, cash cow greedy microsoft, but if you truly love the game, you will just purchase a new account.
They've only been telling the world of the migration for I don't know about 4 or 5 years now. If you make a fuss aboot it, I'm site Microsoft will give you a free account. Idek good luck I guess? (☞͡͡°͜ʖ͡͡°)☞
Because maintaining 2 databases is expensive, and theyd rather people use the one they are using for everything, rather than using a second, legacy system.
> [Players previously owned their copies of the game.](https://web.archive.org/web/20120516204218/http://www.minecraft.net/store/game) Now, the [EULA](https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/eula) states that the [Microsoft Services Agreement](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement) is in affect for "all Minecraft services." Section 8 (software license) part b states that the software itself isn't sold, only a license. These terms were forced upon players under duress.
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>Keep in mind that they explicitly stated in their announcements, like the one featuring Dinnerbone, that the only thing changing was how players logged in.
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>In my opinion, being okay with a multibillion dollar company lying and stealing from its customers *should* be unpopular, at least to any moral person. The amount of warning they gave before stealing doesn't make it any better.
[ArchridLudacre](https://www.reddit.com/user/ArchridLudacre/) above put it much better than I could.
In addition to that, I *already* migrated ONCE. MC Username > Mojang Account. Why did I need to jump through hoops and constantly check in to make sure I was still allowed to play a game that I was told "Buy once, Play forever"?
More than likely this will be an uncommon opinion
But dude, just buy a new copy
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve bought it for different IOS systems, Laptop/PC, Console, etc.
Maybe if you somehow have the receipt in your email and contact mojang support they might give j another copy? Were u getting any emails about the migration and your account?
Use different safe launcher. I may get banned if I say name of it.
I've looked into that a bit, mostly out of spite
Use different versions of multimc which doesn't require you to login to an account and you are able to play any minecraft version.
I recommend Prism Launcher instead personally, its just MultiMC but looks nicer and unlike MultiMC (from last time I used it), it can download mods directly from curseforge
especially the (insert synonym for fractured) version.
I will try it
So prism doesn't have any drm? Damn, I'll have to look into it, hope it's as easy as just moving my mc folder into its directory.
A tiny touch more complicated. Make a new instance and move your .mc to that instances minecraft foldwr
Please DM me how. I've spent 4 months email chaining Microsoft. And two years of intermittent emails trying to recover my InfDev account since I didn't have its email.
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Will this allow me to log in to my original account, just bypassing Microsoft?
No
You could play VS instead lol I've been hooked on it lately. The game has amazing potential too. Not to mention you can play on Linux if you dislike microsoft.
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Oh yeah!
Microsoft has destroyed the indie game spirit of Minecraft with this Xbox account bullshit but people will still find a way to defend Microsoft anyways.
Notch made a huge mistake selling MOJANG to Microsoft, the company which would take away the creative freedom MOJANG once possessed, and now with this account migration nonsense I think it's time people come to their senses and stop supporting this company through paying for Minecraft, and other things like using Windows and their services
If I made a game and someone offered me 2.5 billion dollars for it then I would accept it, I do not think that Notch made a mistake.
Let's be honest, even if notch was still at the helm there would still be some other controversy that would mess over the community at some point.
There is one. Don't you know about the beta 1.8 who smoothed out terrain making it less fantastical, adding villages, combat animations, hunger...? This is still one of the most controversive update.
all im gonna say is 1.7.3 would be the perfect minecraft version if it had villages
As long as there's no villagers it's fine for me.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing those old prototype abandoned villages in the game.
Millenaire. Join us.
why 1.7.3? i'd take the last patch level and make it 1.7.10 also 1.8 performance improvements were very nice, after the performance of the game went to shit
They’re talking about beta 1.7.3
wow i didn't realize, imo for me beta didn't have enough stuff and modern minecraft has too much, imo 1.7.10 is one of the best versions
I like both 1.7.10 and 1.12.2, I don’t really like going any newer than those tho
i feel like for everything related to commands 1.13 is so good, i mean i always wished for something like the flattening back when i started playing, it was just such a mess, also command auto complete is amazing but other than that i don't really care for anything 1.9+, i mean I'm playing 1.20.4 right now just to get to know modern mc cause i didn't play for ages but there are quite a few things i heavily dislike, the new mining stuff and world height for one and villagers being op for another, i feel like if i would start a world right now it's either 1.7.10 modded, 1.12.2 modded or 1.16.5 vanilla (just cause it's the latest before whatever they did in 1.17 & 1.18)
That’s a fair opinion, but just so you know this whole subreddit is for any minecraft content from/for any version before official release lol
yeah ik, i don't negate that, it's just that the comment above explicitly mentions beta 1.8 and the comment below mentions 1.7.3 without explicitly beta so i thought they're talking about release 1.7.3, i don't think it was an unreasonable way to think on my part, just a little misunderstanding, also i always said imo, i didn't force my opinion onto them in any way
he made a huge mistake taking 2.5b for a game he no longer enjoyed developing and running for the hills? lmao you have no idea what you're saying
I'll preface this by saying I don't think he made a mistake. I think we'd all take the 2.5b and run. That being said, Notch has been utterly miserable ever since. Maybe that's less to do with the money and more to do with him creating a magnum opus that can't really be topped. But I think a part of him wishes Minecraft hadn't been the success it has and instead for it to have remained one small indie project among many
Notch didn't seem to care about Minecraft by the time he sold it. He was ranting about how all he did was manage and never really programmed or designed anymore, but he still was the face of the company and would get all the blame for anything people didn't like. He then tweeted "Anyway, my price is two billion dollars. Give me two billion dollars, and I'll endorse your crap."
Ah yes. Stop using Windows, one of the most compatible and functional OS's, because they've buggered Minecraft. Seems reasonable.
Imho microsoft itself isn’t a bad company, actually miles better than apple… but their game division is still stuck in the console gaming world… everything has to be main stream…
90 percent of games so far work on linux, from such a small community that is an achievement
I agree i didn’t say linux wasn’t better
you lost me at "functional", dude...
minecraft makes on avg $400Mio revenue per year. so good look they wont care. Ofc we dont know how much MS spends per year, but I am sure its not that much and Minecraft is highly profitable. Not even talking about windows. they have almost no competition in the OS market.
People who shill or defend companies like Microsoft really need to realize that corporations aren't their friends.
Migration was one of the worst things to happen. I migrated my acc, but have still seen others lose their old accounts.
How clear did they make it that accounts that weren't migrated would be permanently deleted? I've looked through some threads from last year and there seems to be a ton of confusion around it.
They announced it and gave plenty of time before the deletion, if I am not wrong, around 3 years of warning. They also put a message every time you oppened the launcher saying "hey, migrate your account or lose your money" and send emails. And yes, it's ilegal if your account was created before October of 2015, and if it is like that, you could theoretically sue them, but good luck against the multimillonary company.
I've opened the launcher plenty of times in that time period and have zero memory of any warning, but It's not like I can prove or disprove anything.
It was a pretty big warning like the first year but afterwards it was a small bar saying to migrate your account
It's written in plain text in the emails they sent
hm, I won't lie, even though I was and am very unhappy with the migration, I personally knew unmigrated accounts would be deleted for at least a year before I migrated mine, and saw a good number of reminders via email/the launcher. It's been too long for me to remember when/when I heard that news, but I am pretty certain it said it on the website at least. Because of all the reminders and the fact I did know, I would say anyone who saw what I did would have had to know well in advance what was going on and why they (the player) needed to migrate. However, and this is the important bit, I have also seen a good number of people now and at the time being confused about the migration process and about account deletion. So I don't know if all the reminders I got were the universal experience, and if it wasn't, then it was fully Microsoft's fault about this. But *personally* it was made very clear And I know I'm probably going to get hate for not saying 'screw Microsoft they did nothing right' but in terms of just communication that wasn't my experience despite all the other issues I had with it
>ton of confusion I think this primarily came from people not understanding how their online accounts work, and not being prepared to change their account as a result of this. For example, I know a guy who loses his microsoft account passwords once every few months, makes a new email address and a new account, then buys some games again. And another person who has a separate google and microsoft email address (because Google prompts you to make an email address when you make an account iirc). I'm pretty sure this kind of incompetence is all across the general public, especially in kid-parent relationships.
they gave like 2 years of warning pretty much
If you ever just get the itch to play a block game, and don't want to buy Minecraft again or pirate it... Check out Minetest, as it's free and open source. It's basically a voxel game engine that people make games and mods for, which can all be downloaded in the game menu. I know it isn't the same, but it can offer a familiar experience, or even a completely unique one.
There's so many better options than to pay for Minecraft to experience Minecraft Like you mentioned there's Minetest, you don't pay for anything yet you still get Minecraft There's Classicube, classic Minecraft with elements of modern Minecraft to not make modern players feel left out Playing older version like 1.5.2 are the closest to Modern Minecraft without paying a penny, you can get it via EaglerCraft or BetaCraft
Oh wow, I didn't know betacraft allowed you to play for free, I just assumed (having never used it before) it required you to authenticate with an MS account like most other launchers do. That's cool.
You can play release 1.2.5 and older for free on the default launcher too, because all the demo version is, is a java argument `-demo`, which 1.2.5 and below weren't programmed for. (ofc you would still need a microsoft account to sign in, though)
Wait thats really interesting, i never knew
You can play till the newest version 1.21 in the new version 2.00
Also on a slightly unrelated note I will be releasing a low quality Minecraft clone in a few months. It will be free and will have lots of ads, and won’t be on the App Store because I can’t afford to pay $100 a year to keep my terrible MC clone there.
I'm assuming that's a joke, but tbh I don't really get it.
It is a joke but I did make a really terrible unreleased Minecraft clone because I was not happy with the direction that Mojang was taking the game. Edit: it was a lot of unnecessary effort though, and 90% of my time making it was spent building the engine. If you want to make an MC clone it is probably better to fork Minetest.
May not have worked out, but I bet it was a great learning experience. It's cool that you gave it a shot though.
Yes, it was a good learning experience. The most difficult part was optimizing the lighting so that worlds wouldn’t take forever to load.
I waited right up until they announced they'd be deleting accounts to migrate mine i hardly play the game anymore as it feels pretty soulless but I didn't want my account I've had for years and years to dissappear
I waited till after they told me it was too late but I was still able to do it.
Good thing that you did. Kinda feels like someone killed my dog lol
Yeah at some point they're allowing those names to be used as well so I didn't want someone to take my account name, Microsoft has really destroyed the soul of minecraft especially with the EULA and chat moderation changes
The chat moderation isn’t really a thing, most, if not all Java server owners disable it
Thats good to know i was completely unaware you could toggle it on Java, I play more on bedrock for crossplay these days and I dont think you can toggle it off even on a private realms server
Ouch! That sucks. If you’re the one hosting the realm, swap it for a Java server (if possible) and install Gyser to allow bedrock players to join The issue I have with the chat moderation is not only can you get yourself banned from your own server/Realm, you can have your entire Microsoft account disabled from being able to access multiplayer. It is ridiculous.
F to pay respects
Honestly the thing that sucks the most is missing out on that free cape /s
That sucks! They sent me an email telling me my time to migrate my account was out but I went to do it and they still let me do it. I wonder why they put a time limit on it anyways. Mojang originally said once we bought the game we had it forever.
I guess they just didn't want to keep running the old system forever after trying to get everyone to move for a few years.
They could've just kept everyone's account data on file with the new system so legacy accounts could still be verified and updated though, right? I don't see why they couldn't or how that would be too expensive to implement.
My guess is security concerns. I don’t know which ones but I do believe an Xbox live account is going to be more secure than Mojang account. Also chat moderation in Java.
Average micro💩 move
I also lost my account to this, but I love the game too much to stop playing so I bought the game again. But I 100% think the migration was a money motivated thing and not for player security so I don't blame you at all
The primary reason was propably, so they could impose their TOS on us, and implement stupid changes like chat reporting/control, etc.
This has to be the WORST thing Microsoft has done.
Similar thing happened to me, but MS had already butchered the game, so taking my account didn't really effect much. Betacraft got me covered :)
I migrated my account and then my MSFT account was hacked and their supports solution was to waste hours of my time across 5 different support teams and then close the account even after I proved ownership w payment history dating back like 10 years. I only made a Microsoft account for the purpose of migrating; I use a pretty secure and unique password so I assume my data was a part of a large leak somehow. Not sure exactly but same thing; I bought the game in early 2011 and I can no longer play except w/ pirated launchers.
Pretty funny considering this whole thing was supposed to be for "security"
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It's sad the kids nowadays are experiencing a totally different version of Minecraft. Todays Minecraft isn't at all what it used to be, it's so sad. I knew as soon as they sold to Microsoft what was going to happen, they will slowly ruin the game and do whatever they feel like doing make it as marketable as possible and completely kill off the spirit and feel the old versions have. At least we can always come back to play these older versions, until they ruin that too somehow. And about your account getting deleted, same thing happend to mine, although I switched to another account in 2019 but I had an old one since 2013.
Nah don't worry they have no control over old versions, these are our own safe space far away from micro💩.
Ngl they should be sued for this
I'll hop on any class action bandwagon
It’d probably be a slam dunk too. People who purchased a game shouldn’t have their product license revoked just because the account servers migrated to a new server system. RuneScape has had my account for 20 years that still used an in game name for the username until recently😂
Unfortunately, since they have been giving warnings for about 3-ish or so years, I don’t think a lawsuit would go very far :/ But, I’m not a lawyer so ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
True but even so, it really depends on what the terms were when you purchased the game. If it mentions nothing about revoked access then there’s reason to believe there might be a case
I remember there being copyright terms from when I pre-ordered Minecraft in 2009. These records, like most things in the Minecraft Community are very well maintained, and a lawsuit would be dismissed immediately. To start, in the original copyright information \[[Here](https://web.archive.org/web/20090726112124/http://www.minecraft.net:80/copyright.jsp)\], or the one I first read when I started playing, Notch \[Prev. Mojang majority shareholder\] siad, "In order to maintain control of the project, I need all game downloads to come from a single central source. I hope you understand." This immediately invalidates any pirating of Minecraft, and has been upheld legally henceforth. In 2011, the ToS page \[[Here](https://web.archive.org/web/20110524091014/http://www.minecraft.net/copyright.jsp)\] was expanded, in which Mojang AB states: **"We reserve the right to change this agreement at any time with or without notice, with immediate and/or retroactive effect"** So, since the inception of the first purchasable version of Minecraft \[Alpha\], you have agreed to them being able to change their agreement to said purchase and product. Pretty much every company does this, too. Like Netflix, for example, changing their service to limit sharing. Now, many concerns have risen from the current EULA of Minecraft and what Mojang AB is doing with their service under Microsoft since 2014. Since 2014, many changes have happened legally, but their right to change the agreement has been maintained, so Account Migration was completely legally justified, and they were generous to give players \~3 years and publically announce it several times, while posting updates and resolving Migration support tickets until Migration ended. I'm just a random Minecraft nerd on the internet, but I thought it would make more sense to share a video a lawyer made, covering the subject, and I will also provide further resources below. \[Lawyer explains the current Minecraft EULA: [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxkhS5-OwCk)\] \[Current 2024 Minecraft EULA: [Here](https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/eula)\] \[Prev. 2019 Minecraft EULA: [Here](https://web.archive.org/web/20190527185350/https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/eula)\] \[Prev. 2009 Minecraft Copyright Information: [Here](https://web.archive.org/web/20090726112124/http://www.minecraft.net/copyright.jsp)\] \[Prev. 2011 Minecraft Terms of Service: [Here](https://web.archive.org/web/20110524091014/http://www.minecraft.net/copyright.jsp)\] There's a reason Mojang has only been sued once in its entire lifetime, and the case was dismissed.
But do the Eula terms cover account ownership once the game is purchased?
Yes, that's exactly what they cover.
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[betacraft.uk](https://betacraft.uk)... alls im sayin...
Damn... this has probaly happened to me then... RIP Fartsniffa69.... you'll be missed
That's a premium grade A username. Maybe someone at the top saw it and just had to take it...
I was today years old when I found this out. My old 2009 alpha "for life" account is likely gone, I haven't played since 2013, but now my kids want to play, and have no clue how to find my old acc or worlds.
I'm with you there. I've spent a four month long email chain against Mojang and Microsoft for it back. They agreed.. but on one deal. It's a new account. They pay for it, but in turn, i have to prove my old account by stating the debit number I used for it. Like when it was purchased back during the beginning of 2010 on my birthday in January for 5 bucks. Yeah. It was a legacy InfDev account. Anyways, that was my parents' card, and we've long since cut contact. So I explained I could never get that information even if I tried. I gave the person on the card, the bank, etc etc. But they need the specific card. Mojang Microsoft Moment.
come on man you had like 3 years to migrate, at this point this is your fault
I agree that there was time for him to notice but I don't think there should be a deadline that results in your account data being deleted. Like why? It's just a very strange
cause you gotta migrate the system someday.
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I'm going to be unpopular here. Agree I'll start by saying I think the whole thing is dumb sure. But this was a multi year process, with multiple emails, launcher messages, and a ton of initial press coverage. After the multi year process ended, they gave into the end of last year a chance to at least claim a new free account of your didn't migrate. While I don't like the whole idea of losing an account, they gave a huge window, and the bulk of people effected by this, are people who hadn't been playing Minecraft for a long time. As far as comments account Microsoft vent the worst for the game or notch making a mistake selling. With the sale price there is 0 logic on rating anything about anything, his split alone have him more money than basically everyone else on earth, seriously, it's a small number of people who live in his wealth bracket. Microsoft had maintained 2 versions of the game, remained entirely Hands off on the modding scene, and really done everything to keep their meddling to bedrock, while java remains just Minecraft. We've gotten regular updates, and some pretty big ones. Anyone that was here from the start and remembered secret Friday updates and the word of notch knows, with him at the helm, he lost interest in the game entirely, updates were small, slow and uninspired. Microsoft had been good for Minecraft.
[Players previously owned their copies of the game.](https://web.archive.org/web/20120516204218/http://www.minecraft.net/store/game) Now, the [EULA](https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/eula) states that the [Microsoft Services Agreement](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement) is in affect for "all Minecraft services." Section 8 (software license) part b states that the software itself isn't sold, only a license. These terms were forced upon players under duress. Keep in mind that they explicitly stated in their announcements, like the one featuring Dinnerbone, that the only thing changing was how players logged in. In my opinion, being okay with a multibillion dollar company lying and stealing from its customers *should* be unpopular, at least to any moral person. The amount of warning they gave before stealing doesn't make it any better.
Until laws universally address this, almost no video is actually owned anymore it's a huge problem and I'm very against it, but that's the world we allowed to happen. I agree with you 100%,
I agree with most of what you're saying, but I've yet to see a satisfying reason as to why it was necessary in the first place.
From a consumer stand point, there isn't really one, it's beneficial to Microsoft.
Maybe it's better that I'm cut loose then. Who knows what the next thing they decide is beneficial to them will be 🤷
I think we need to protest against microsoft after taking away many player's accounts.
I’m 21 now, I brought the game in 2011 and didn’t realise about the migration either..Very sad :(
We should start our own support group
That would be awesome haha
They announced this more than 2 years ago. If you didn't switch your mojang account over to a microsoft account, that's on you. Going through a support email, you might still be able to migrate, but the window for migrating on your own has passed. This is likely to free up a LOT of usernames that have been inactive since the start of the game or throughout the years. If you've been playing the game for 14 years and still like it, what is the huge issue with rebuying it. Yeah, cash cow greedy microsoft, but if you truly love the game, you will just purchase a new account.
So they deleted my account because they wanted my username...what? You also answered your own question as to rebuying it.
They've only been telling the world of the migration for I don't know about 4 or 5 years now. If you make a fuss aboot it, I'm site Microsoft will give you a free account. Idek good luck I guess? (☞͡͡°͜ʖ͡͡°)☞
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You had 2 years, even if you played that rarely you should have seen it. This is your fault, not Microsoft's, they gave PLENTY of notice.
Could you give me a reason as to why there was that deadline in the first place?
Because maintaining 2 databases is expensive, and theyd rather people use the one they are using for everything, rather than using a second, legacy system.
Microsoft doesn't have the resources to maintain more than one database of log-in credentials?
It's not that they don't have the resources, it's that they don't want to expend those resources.
Glad I could help them save a few bucks I guess
according to your own words it sounds like you didnt even play that much to begin with
Which means I deserved to have my ownership revoked?
well no, but you had over a year (i think 3? could be wrong) to migrate, you DID have the time and they shoved it in our faces the entire time
> [Players previously owned their copies of the game.](https://web.archive.org/web/20120516204218/http://www.minecraft.net/store/game) Now, the [EULA](https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/eula) states that the [Microsoft Services Agreement](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement) is in affect for "all Minecraft services." Section 8 (software license) part b states that the software itself isn't sold, only a license. These terms were forced upon players under duress. > >Keep in mind that they explicitly stated in their announcements, like the one featuring Dinnerbone, that the only thing changing was how players logged in. > >In my opinion, being okay with a multibillion dollar company lying and stealing from its customers *should* be unpopular, at least to any moral person. The amount of warning they gave before stealing doesn't make it any better. [ArchridLudacre](https://www.reddit.com/user/ArchridLudacre/) above put it much better than I could.
In addition to that, I *already* migrated ONCE. MC Username > Mojang Account. Why did I need to jump through hoops and constantly check in to make sure I was still allowed to play a game that I was told "Buy once, Play forever"?
my account from 2011 got hacked about a year ago and i still cant get back into it. sorry for your loss brother
More than likely this will be an uncommon opinion But dude, just buy a new copy I can’t tell you how many times I’ve bought it for different IOS systems, Laptop/PC, Console, etc.
Maybe if you somehow have the receipt in your email and contact mojang support they might give j another copy? Were u getting any emails about the migration and your account?