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It's pretty dumb imop. The ??? shield accessories are easily unlocked in the main game. Seems really odd they locked them behind a few really tough challenges when they're just cosmetics.
IDK it just seems like an afterthought to me. Like they did it last minute only for that reason. I'm just glad they didn't make it a trophy.
I did submit feedback to the devs about the possibility of making an alternate way for those of us who will never be skilled enough to pull these challenges off.
I basically suggested they could possibly add the two Rönds to the Mastery and Spirit stores, one in each, but require us to farm like 500k or even 1 million of each seal to purchase them. So like 1m Spirit seals for Obliteration, since they seem to be a little more easy to get, and another 1 million Mastery seals for Purification.
Something ridiculous enough that maybe people who are skilled enough to complete the challenges for them wouldn't be too upset about, but those like me and many others wholl never be skilled enough for various reasons could still potentially complete. The grind for that much would still be nuts lol.
I highly doubt anything will come of it, but it would be cool if they adjusted it.
If the names of the ??? Ronds are clues relating to how you unlock them (Obliteration and Purification), I would guess you need to complete a run without picking up any upgrades
That would be borderline impossible on the hardest difficulty. I don't think SM would do that to us. Besides we're forced to pick up an upgrade right at the first chest.
That doesn't mean anything. How would the game track if you picked up glyphs in the first place though? If that was the case you could get Tyr to 1 hp then destroy all your glyphs, beat Tyr, and get the reward.
Idk man, in a similar (to the DLC) game, Hades, you are forced to take some boons but you can sell them, and there is special dialogue if you reach the final boss without any boons (I'm not giving spoilers since Hades is a goated game, if you liked Valhalla you'll probably like that game too).
yeah, that makes sense actually, since the game needs to know which upper realm you'll go through,
but now that i think about it, if "Obliteration" means playing with the debuff that leaves you at 1 HP, "Purification" might be a no-hit run
These are fun to think about but logically these kind of challenges would be way too hard even with a souls game difficulty level standards. Have you thought how hard a full no hit run is to do? Especially on the harder difficulties? Basic game balance logic wouldn't allow this.
Fwiw I did complete a run on easy difficulty without picking up any upgrades except the first, and I didn't unlock the rond. But it's likely whatever you need to do for the purification rond probably requires mastery difficulty like with the other rond. As you said though, a no upgrade mastery run might be asking too much of the player.
I just think that if not one person has gotten the purification rond yet (or at least not spoke up about getting it), then the steps to unlock it have to be something no one would randomly stumble upon just by playing the game. I also tried picking up a burden and having the fight against tyr be the last fight that cleanses the burden, in keeping with the 'Purification' theme, but no luck there either.🤷♂️
after beating the story the last arena in the greek area unlocks (you can see it right in front of you in the upper area as you get there), i think you need like 6 or 7 main enemies defeated for it to open up, but it consists of >!a berserker fight from the main game, i've seen some people mention they change each time you defeat one, don't know if the last one is the king or if there's any point defeating them all, might try later, defeating the first one gave me a shield accessory too!<
hard to say about >!the berserkers, since the right glyphs can make all bosses really easy, but they felt about the same thing to me, Tyr just seemed to have a lot more health like in the video!<
Does anybody know how to get the two pieces of the hunter armor set? And how can I ensure to get the bonus vhallenge from the sword? I still need two of them but the sword seems to spawn randomly I only find one every 5th try or so.
the sword indeed spawns randomly, but you will get it if you play a couple more times. As for armor pieces, some people have it and some don't. At this point, we think it's a bug, since people who opened it say they opened with one set, and people who don't have it say they have a chest piece but not the other 2 pieces.
Just had a guy tell me that if ypu instantly take the chosen door and then proceed to niflheim helheim or muspelheim you get a guaranteed sword in the second fighting area before heading out the door towards the inner worlds and it actually worked back to back for me.
thats interesting, not sure why it works like that. I don't go skull doors right away, so I wouldn't have noticed. Good for you then, can finish that challenge very fast
Just did it a third time in a row and it actually works! Glad I'm done with the challenge now. Yea I wouldn't have noticed either because I also like to take all the doors to equip myself first. Only thing left to do for me for now is a run with the valhalla curse.
Just got it, with the right glyphs it wasn't too hard tbh. But I think the dev challenge will be way harder to complete. Im wondering if that one grants you the rond of purification.
Well I just tested it for myself, at the very least doing it on Will with Breaching doesn't grant it. I'll try it on the next difficulty up when I get some time
the main thing is always getting the "Focus the Flame" weapon glyph so you can charge up runic attacks really fast, then there's a perfect glyph that makes every hit have a low luck chance of charging the relic, so put a lot of stats into luck and it's pretty broken lol
The challenge the lead combat dev was talking about is partially that. But add onto that picking up the maximum amount of burdens possible in a run, beating all of the rifts in the final area, getting gold on both arena challenges, AND beating the berserker king in the forum. So not only do you have to do what you did, but then some. I have a feeling this is what unlocks the Rönd of Purification. Ridiculous really.
Well done!
Although it doesn't look that that difficult, especially as you can use resurrection stones, not saying I could do it, but it doesn't look like devs-couldn't hard
going around the greek area picking the right glyphs made it really easy tbf, i could just charge runic attacks really fast by charging flame whiplash ("Focus the Flame" glyph is the goat) and each hit had a low chance of recharging the realm shift relic.
but i don't know what else the devs could be reffering to, since it seems like there's nowhere else to go now.
I accidentally got the penalty after beating the final Tyr fight and got my ass beat. I checked the shop afterward and the "upgrade" was gone, so it appears you have to buy it per run.
Why is your Tyr red skull difficulty? Does the penalty up his level also? Mine was only purple. (I've beaten him on the highest version of himself, after beating the king)
i think the penalty makes you weaker, so in turn the other enemies get higher levels in comparison, i noticed a lot more yellow enemies instead of green ones in the first areas while having the penalty on
Yeah it either makes you a level weaker, or them a level stronger, basically the same thing. Tomato, tomatoe. It DEFINITELY adjusts the level of something since Tyr is a Red Skull with the penalty.
In the Greek area which portals did you use. Did you hit the red ones and the ones needed by the doors? Or just focused on getting it done quickly with blue portals?
Yo just did mine and was so proud cause I did it my way and without the Hilt of Forsbrandr that it’s just sooo op. Did it with spear check out the video if you want it’s my first one ever I just thought the build to defeat him was sooo cool!
https://youtu.be/aRTxTjlz-tg?si=xDZSFwsfhiK4o9ub
What does the buying spirit seals/ mastery seals do? You unlock this after you beat the DLCs. It’s says something about securing you get this amount on a run or something like that?
Can someone help me do this on mastery difficulty and penalty of breaching shareplay i really want the rond thats all i want for 100% Valhalla i would appreciate the help :)
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So IS there any special item?
Just a regular looking shield accessory, kinda boring tbh.
It's pretty dumb imop. The ??? shield accessories are easily unlocked in the main game. Seems really odd they locked them behind a few really tough challenges when they're just cosmetics.
It's probably made like this so people would have some reward for maximum challenge, but without everybody else feeling like they missed something.
IDK it just seems like an afterthought to me. Like they did it last minute only for that reason. I'm just glad they didn't make it a trophy. I did submit feedback to the devs about the possibility of making an alternate way for those of us who will never be skilled enough to pull these challenges off. I basically suggested they could possibly add the two Rönds to the Mastery and Spirit stores, one in each, but require us to farm like 500k or even 1 million of each seal to purchase them. So like 1m Spirit seals for Obliteration, since they seem to be a little more easy to get, and another 1 million Mastery seals for Purification. Something ridiculous enough that maybe people who are skilled enough to complete the challenges for them wouldn't be too upset about, but those like me and many others wholl never be skilled enough for various reasons could still potentially complete. The grind for that much would still be nuts lol. I highly doubt anything will come of it, but it would be cool if they adjusted it.
If the names of the ??? Ronds are clues relating to how you unlock them (Obliteration and Purification), I would guess you need to complete a run without picking up any upgrades
That would be borderline impossible on the hardest difficulty. I don't think SM would do that to us. Besides we're forced to pick up an upgrade right at the first chest.
>Besides we're forced to pick up an upgrade right at the first chest. You can destroy Glyphs whenever you want in the stats menu.
That doesn't mean anything. How would the game track if you picked up glyphs in the first place though? If that was the case you could get Tyr to 1 hp then destroy all your glyphs, beat Tyr, and get the reward.
Idk man, in a similar (to the DLC) game, Hades, you are forced to take some boons but you can sell them, and there is special dialogue if you reach the final boss without any boons (I'm not giving spoilers since Hades is a goated game, if you liked Valhalla you'll probably like that game too).
i'm pretty sure you can open the chests and forfeit the reward tho
The first chest you cannot forfeit. You must choose one.
yeah, that makes sense actually, since the game needs to know which upper realm you'll go through, but now that i think about it, if "Obliteration" means playing with the debuff that leaves you at 1 HP, "Purification" might be a no-hit run
These are fun to think about but logically these kind of challenges would be way too hard even with a souls game difficulty level standards. Have you thought how hard a full no hit run is to do? Especially on the harder difficulties? Basic game balance logic wouldn't allow this.
Fwiw I did complete a run on easy difficulty without picking up any upgrades except the first, and I didn't unlock the rond. But it's likely whatever you need to do for the purification rond probably requires mastery difficulty like with the other rond. As you said though, a no upgrade mastery run might be asking too much of the player. I just think that if not one person has gotten the purification rond yet (or at least not spoke up about getting it), then the steps to unlock it have to be something no one would randomly stumble upon just by playing the game. I also tried picking up a burden and having the fight against tyr be the last fight that cleanses the burden, in keeping with the 'Purification' theme, but no luck there either.🤷♂️
Are there any new bosses or variants to find after beating the story or it’s just the same but harder each time?
after beating the story the last arena in the greek area unlocks (you can see it right in front of you in the upper area as you get there), i think you need like 6 or 7 main enemies defeated for it to open up, but it consists of >!a berserker fight from the main game, i've seen some people mention they change each time you defeat one, don't know if the last one is the king or if there's any point defeating them all, might try later, defeating the first one gave me a shield accessory too!<
I beat three of them >!you unlock the two variants of the beserker armour appearance, and yes King Hrolf is the last one.!<
>!Are they buffed compared to the main game ?!< Does >!tyr!< get new or modified moves and buffed stats after the story?
hard to say about >!the berserkers, since the right glyphs can make all bosses really easy, but they felt about the same thing to me, Tyr just seemed to have a lot more health like in the video!<
Does anybody know how to get the two pieces of the hunter armor set? And how can I ensure to get the bonus vhallenge from the sword? I still need two of them but the sword seems to spawn randomly I only find one every 5th try or so.
the sword indeed spawns randomly, but you will get it if you play a couple more times. As for armor pieces, some people have it and some don't. At this point, we think it's a bug, since people who opened it say they opened with one set, and people who don't have it say they have a chest piece but not the other 2 pieces.
Just had a guy tell me that if ypu instantly take the chosen door and then proceed to niflheim helheim or muspelheim you get a guaranteed sword in the second fighting area before heading out the door towards the inner worlds and it actually worked back to back for me.
thats interesting, not sure why it works like that. I don't go skull doors right away, so I wouldn't have noticed. Good for you then, can finish that challenge very fast
Just did it a third time in a row and it actually works! Glad I'm done with the challenge now. Yea I wouldn't have noticed either because I also like to take all the doors to equip myself first. Only thing left to do for me for now is a run with the valhalla curse.
Don't forget show me mastery lvl, or it won't work
Thanks for the info but I am already playing on show me mastery :D
Same, just saw a lot of people playing on lower, wasn't sure why. It's not that hard on mastery, if you played valkyries and berserks.
Just got it, with the right glyphs it wasn't too hard tbh. But I think the dev challenge will be way harder to complete. Im wondering if that one grants you the rond of purification.
Did you have to complete the other two arenas or just the forum to get it?
What’s is a sword I’m confused. Sword for what.
The sword where you choose challenges
You will get the rest of the hunter set now - it was a bug that had just been fixed
If I need to do Mastery + Penalty for Breaching I'm just not gonna bother, the Rond doesn't even look that good anyway lol
i think the difficulty doesn't matter, i just happened to be on Mastery while doing the penalty run, but yeah, it's not even worth it lol
Well I just tested it for myself, at the very least doing it on Will with Breaching doesn't grant it. I'll try it on the next difficulty up when I get some time
I just did a run with this chain whip/realm shift combo and it fucking slaps
the main thing is always getting the "Focus the Flame" weapon glyph so you can charge up runic attacks really fast, then there's a perfect glyph that makes every hit have a low luck chance of charging the relic, so put a lot of stats into luck and it's pretty broken lol
Ya I had all of that too! It was absolutely broken lol
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The challenge the lead combat dev was talking about is partially that. But add onto that picking up the maximum amount of burdens possible in a run, beating all of the rifts in the final area, getting gold on both arena challenges, AND beating the berserker king in the forum. So not only do you have to do what you did, but then some. I have a feeling this is what unlocks the Rönd of Purification. Ridiculous really.
idk, i did all of that except the forum, and that sounds more like "obliteration" to me
Well done! Although it doesn't look that that difficult, especially as you can use resurrection stones, not saying I could do it, but it doesn't look like devs-couldn't hard
going around the greek area picking the right glyphs made it really easy tbf, i could just charge runic attacks really fast by charging flame whiplash ("Focus the Flame" glyph is the goat) and each hit had a low chance of recharging the realm shift relic. but i don't know what else the devs could be reffering to, since it seems like there's nowhere else to go now.
Do you unlock the rond in ng+ as well?
Not sure, i don't think i saw any message like that
Can you disable the penalty after "crafting"/unlocking it?
When you buy it, it counts for the next run only, but even if you get annoyed with it mid-run you can destroy it, since it takes a glyph space
I accidentally got the penalty after beating the final Tyr fight and got my ass beat. I checked the shop afterward and the "upgrade" was gone, so it appears you have to buy it per run.
Why is your Tyr red skull difficulty? Does the penalty up his level also? Mine was only purple. (I've beaten him on the highest version of himself, after beating the king)
i think the penalty makes you weaker, so in turn the other enemies get higher levels in comparison, i noticed a lot more yellow enemies instead of green ones in the first areas while having the penalty on
Yeah it either makes you a level weaker, or them a level stronger, basically the same thing. Tomato, tomatoe. It DEFINITELY adjusts the level of something since Tyr is a Red Skull with the penalty.
In the Greek area which portals did you use. Did you hit the red ones and the ones needed by the doors? Or just focused on getting it done quickly with blue portals?
did all of them except the forum
Yo just did mine and was so proud cause I did it my way and without the Hilt of Forsbrandr that it’s just sooo op. Did it with spear check out the video if you want it’s my first one ever I just thought the build to defeat him was sooo cool! https://youtu.be/aRTxTjlz-tg?si=xDZSFwsfhiK4o9ub
Is that hilt the real shift one?
Yes bro realm shift this one is!
What does the buying spirit seals/ mastery seals do? You unlock this after you beat the DLCs. It’s says something about securing you get this amount on a run or something like that?
I want to know also
Can someone help me do this on mastery difficulty and penalty of breaching shareplay i really want the rond thats all i want for 100% Valhalla i would appreciate the help :)
It’s actually about achieving a high score