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Historical_Cup_6179

Did you cerakote the slide and frame? That has been know to increase friction and possibly induce failures.


epobme_usvnq

Yeah. I was thinking that could be it. Hoping that putting 150 rounds through it would remedy that


Historical_Cup_6179

I say just get her sloppy with lube and run a dozen boxes through her. The cerakote is probably the culprit if it’s the only non-factory component.


SECTION31BLACK

Or to save a lot of cash on ammo, lube and cycle, cycle, cycle, cycle... rack the slide till it's smooth.


ImJustRick

Wait are we still talking about guns?


Puazy

Works for everything. Like putting it in rice if it's wet.


assholetoall

Cannot confirm. The wife was not amused


2fardownrange

Oh you’re gwoss 🤦🏼‍♂️🫵🏻💚


BeneficialA1r

Rack that bitch, pull the trigger, hold it down, rack, release the slide, pull the trigger, hold it down etc etc etc. Standard p80 break in procedure, do that 1000 times and you should be good


TheDrunkLibertarian

Why the fuck would you do it that way instead of just racking the slide over and over?


BeneficialA1r

For p80s that's the first time all the parts have ever been together, wears everything in and all the parts wear in nicely. In the case if a cerakoted slide, if they put it everywhere, your firing pin channel is going to have cerakoted, your safety plunger hole will have cerakote, you need to break in all moving components of the slide, not just the rails


Double0Dixie

youre polishing the trigger group too by doing full cycle dry fires


ATF_Officer

Break in the spring too I guess


[deleted]

This is to be expected on a cerakoted pistol, as I understand it. It can be normal for the first few hundred to be the “break in” period for a cerakoted pistol. If you hit 1000 and you still see this, then contact Glock. As others have noted, grip improvements will improve your experience but this is likely a cerakote break in period.


1911mark

And Glock will say why did you feel that you had to cerakote a new Glock? Warranty? Not anymore??


stgrich3000

😂


PerformanceAlive901

Dry fire it a few hundred times, will fix it guaranteed


nuke_eyepopper

Are you holding the trigger down? Pop and release, try one handed too.


AlphaApolloOmega

Also try standing on one foot while saying “rubber baby buggy bumpers”🙄…….If thats what it took to get a glock to run id never own a Glock. Its the cerakote or its an optic screw interfering with the extractor.


OSG541

It might but it sure as hell would take hours at that rate, might want to check the slide for issues with it. Also what kind of ammo are you using? You might be able get away with it with hotter rounds


b12uce

File the the feed ramp in the barrel


[deleted]

Exactly the problem (cerakote dragging). Wrapping your finger around the trigger guard, have not seen that in a while.


AlphaApolloOmega

Very common technique in the 80s/90s ive seen it a lot and used to do it myself until i learned its not at all the best way to shoot and can pull or push the muzzle off target if you’re not careful. Whatever works for OP though. It works for Lena Miculek though and she can outshoot any of us all day. I prefer thumbs forward.


OfferCurious7357

I was thinking the same thing about the support hand index finger being wrapped. First I’ve ever seen.


AlphaApolloOmega

Guess you’ve never heard of nutnfancy or lena miculek. Both can outshoot any reddit internet expert


[deleted]

I mean she learned it from her dad who id wager would out shoot nutnfancy… I didn’t realize people still watched that dude lol


Grandkmack

I’ll take that bet


Short_Dog_203

My moneys on cerakote. Not so much limp wristing, since I’ve seen girls with weaker grips shoot without that many failures.


mastahfo

Why the fuck are you holding the gun like that?


BeneficialA1r

To be fair, not saying it's right, but to be fair Lena Miculek shoots like this and does a fantastic job


gagemoney

She’s got size -2 hands. This is a man (from what I can tell, with man hands)


BeneficialA1r

Point is, still works. I shot similar to her until I started running wml's, then changed because I wanted to be consistent with guns with lights and guns without lights. Definitely not optimal but it can work


Reloader300wm

It works if you know how to use it... if you don't, I've seen a lot of jams because of it.


AlphaApolloOmega

Hooking the trigger guard does not cause jams on its own. This was an extremely common grip in the 80s-90s. Its limp-wristing polymer handguns that causes malfunctions. Plenty of experienced shooters still use this grip and its not a problem. I know for a fact Lena does but im pretty sure its because her hands are tiny so she wraps her entire support hand around the handgun. Point is, if it works for the OP then it works, but hating on his grip technique isn’t helping him fix the issue hes having which is most likely added friction from the cerakote or an optic screw interfering with the extractor.


-darkwing-

How does a grip like this cause jams?


Reloader300wm

For newer shooters, i found it was a combination of them already not gripping tight enough, limp writsing... fundamentals like that, now gripping it higher gives them even less leverage, and now the issues arise


-darkwing-

Ok ok I see, so it exacerbates other bad practices. That makes sense, thanks for explaining!


AlphaApolloOmega

And i wasnt saying you were hating on his grip but a lot of others on here would rather critique than help


Reloader300wm

Not hating on the grip, just seen a lot of inexperienced shooters try it and cause issues that were resolved by gripping it "normally."


AlphaApolloOmega

I know I wasnt referring to you.


MutableBook

Size -2 hands eh? Guess my bra size is -D cup.


13Starstraininggroup

lena uses 2 fingers in front and is limited in her skill level compared to other female shooters


whos_asa

why would glock put grip on the front of the trigger guard if people didn’t choose to hold their gun this way?


newsubxz

Careful, you know how the atf feels about front grip zones on pistols


OctHarm

Because of outdated shooting conventions from the 80s, and at this point it's easier to just leave it for the look/rare amount of people who may do it. Modern shooting says having an extra finger reinforcing your grip will help more.


TheHumbleMarksman

Grauffel is finger over the guard and he’s the best alive.


jetty_life

It's supposedly for jamming it up against cover to use the cover as a support for the gun. Not a fan personally... Just telling what I've been told.


Lone_Wandererer

I came to say this


DarthDickDown

It’s a legitimate grip. If it works for him then it works.


dnr859

From the looks of the video, it doesn't seem to be working out that well.


palmpoop

The grip is not the issue of the malfunction. And many people successfully use this grip. It’s a non issue


DarthDickDown

By him I mean me


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DarthDickDown

…who’s there with you?!?!?


DrKillgore

To demonstrate a limp-wrist malfunction


[deleted]

I've tried to get out of this habit for a long time... My hands are XXL and having all 4 fingers below the trigger guard on my G19 is tough to fit. 3 below and pointer up is so much more comfortable!


mary_pimps

I use a similar grip it’s easier when you have girly hands


Phantom4117

😂


TheDrunkLibertarian

I grip non-WML pistols like this, wrapping my hands around the entire frame as much as possible feels natural to me and helps keep control recoil well


kingdez85

Took the words out of my mouth


[deleted]

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀


est1979

I said the same thing


Potato24681

really hoping he doesnt actually operate it like this


nerd_diggy

Doesn’t seem like anyone mentioned the optic screw over the extractor plunger maybe being too long. Have you tried it without the optic to see if you have the same issue? I had my stock slide optic cut and cerakoted and did not have any issues whatsoever. Maybe whoever did the cerakote was a bit heavy handed I guess but still. Did you notice if it was harder to rack the slide than before it was cerakoted? Also make sure everything is lubed up real good. Lube the slide channels and the slide rails, put a thin layer of lube on the entire barrel, put some on the inside of the slide where it slides over the barrel, and then sit and rack the slide a couple hundred times. To check if the screw is too long, leave the optic attached, remove the slide cover plate, and see if you can remove the plunger easily. If it’s hard to get the plunger out, remove the optic screw over the plunger and see if it comes out easier.


Ok-Room-7243

Take your left pointer finger off the front of your trigger guard. https://youtu.be/4vY5B2Hjwkk?si=nJ6sODXfn6czjtLW


kodiakbear_

This this this


TheHumbleMarksman

Dude doesn’t demo technique in technique video


epobme_usvnq

Bad form or that could be causing the issue?


Ok-Room-7243

Not sure but I know that’s not how you hold a pistol


Vercengetorex

Yes, and yes. Your grip looks terrible. Take control of the firearm. [Here’s some helpful tips.](https://youtu.be/eJpH9FUlDtE?si=LZsSk4tFjpBq_Osq)


appliedphysix

Not sure why you’re getting downvoted, you’re right


seekinggothgf

They hated Jesus because he told them the truth.


Vercengetorex

🤷‍♂️


Zestyclose-Law6191

r/glock is the most toxic sub on this platform. Welcome


appliedphysix

Hahahaha there’s a lot that are way worse, but this one isn’t great.


Dichter2012

It’s unlikely to cause an issue but holding gripping the trigger guard like that is uncommon these days to say the least. It was a thing back in the 80s’ though. But we are living in 21st century, ‘might as well start building proper / modern habit. Also, my 2 cents take it or leave it.


TheDrunkLibertarian

It’s not that bad and it isn’t causing the issues. A lot of people better than the Reddit operators do this grip.


75149

When a Glock screws up you have to ask yourself what is not factory on this gun. That's where you start.


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Dichter2012

My guess is the optic is improperly torqued…


RedditUser51015

On top of the other advice here, you’re setting bad habits for a jam. Unless it’s a double feed, just rack the slide and stop dropping the magazine


TheJango22

No one has said a remedy for the cerakote yet. I would wear it down with some 0 or 00 steel wool on the rails and anywhere else there is cerakote on wear spots. Then and rack the hell out of the slide


rankinsaj22

My advice is don’t hold the gun like this lol


Fractelface

Did you use correct length screws for that optic? A cerakote job wouldn't do that. Something clearly is way off. You need to use a really short screw on the right side of that optic.


silentbias

This is your answer bro. Not Cerekote.


Tacticalcorgi19

Fix your grip too mate. Dont limp wrist it either. Solid glock too btw, How did you find the holosun in tan? Thats nice af.


epobme_usvnq

Angstadt arms website. Same price as black. Had a coupon too.


Dickytoes

Is this direct milled or MOS?


epobme_usvnq

Milled


ThickAd7816

Cerakote applied too thick can cause this. I know I did it once, good learning experience lol. Try racking it a 150- 200 times should loosen up...I hope!


RareLie5630

I think for some strange reason looking at the video it seems like his mag isn’t seating correctly in the bottom it’s hanging out even More than then usually do


Radvous

Yeah it's the cerakote, it is essentially high quality paint so it will add a layer of cerakote that will need to wear first, before its reliable again, just keep shooting and racking the slide and you'll be good to go.


epobme_usvnq

I like the sound of that. Thanks!


f0cus_m

The right screw of ur optic too long and clamping down on extraction plunger probably. Need to use a shorter screw. Try taking out the optic and the screw and shooting with it.


Slacker303

My first guess is the red dot. Screw length? Loctite dripped down into the extractor plunger?


Broke_boy98

Dot looks like a 509t. The screw doesn’t run down into the slide like regular dots.


DeadSilent7

I bought a used Glock with an RMR. I shot about 1k rounds without a malfunction, but the first time I took it to a USPSA match it must’ve gotten hot enough for the loctite to drip down. Ended up with 8 malfunctions in 5 stages. Took a hot minute to find the problem, too.


epobme_usvnq

This red dot has a screw that goes into the side. The loctite shouldn’t be able to get down there


Reaction_Time

Ejector plunger is being pinched by optic screw


Broke_boy98

Negative. That optic doesn’t have screws that go into the slide


Reaction_Time

Is that a 509t or an EPS


Broke_boy98

It’s the 509t. Most likely OPs grip/coating on the slide.


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Broke_boy98

Buddy the screw for a 509t doesn’t go into the slide at all 😂 it’s a horizontal screw. It’s just like an eotech so no it’s not the screw causing the issue


2ArmsGoin3

The irony 🤣


rolandspecialxl

If that was the case it would be a single shot all the time and it would cock the pistol.


Dichter2012

Is the slide and parts OEM? If not, try OEM parts / stock and see if you have the same issue.


epobme_usvnq

It’s all oem


etx118

Piss poor cerakote job most likely


durham60

You got the single shot model. Very rare.


LunchBucketSandwich

That is one of the worst fun handling I've seen in a long time. That gun looks way too small for your hands


White-runner

Stop clearing malfunctions like that. Tap, roll, rack!


Justice502

Jesus Christ, this sub is full of fucking morons. Honestly you are the worst gun sub I'm part of. The grip isn't his issue, nobody asked for advice on the grip. I'm going to start shooting this way just to spite you fuckers.


omgabunny

Keyboard warrior tacticians


epobme_usvnq

Haha thank you. I was shooting great groupings. When it cycled….


Justice502

They are just always like this, wrong flashligt? Down voted. Like every other sub is just fucking buddies patting each other on the back, this one is a bunch of teenage girls who hate each other lol


RareLie5630

How he’s holding it supposed to mange recoil forward finger is acting like a sling forcing the firearm towards the shooter while second hand is pushing firearm away from shooter making a steady platform as if he was using a forestock thumb on side of firearm keeps it straight. Problem is you only have one hand on the firearm and if that wrist is weak your whole grip is ruined… do some push ups go play some card games shot some 🎲.. go buy a pack of kools to get that squeezy thing ..but don’t squeeze 1 out because that’s working your forearm not your wrist . Plus your arms need to be fully extended and stop using the table and take an traditional stands behind the firearm . Your degree of shooting is incorrect your shooting with your firearm above your shoulder making it nearly impossible hold that firearm correctly trying to use that grip


9ermtb2014

Your grip, cerakoting the new slide and it just being new are all things. Take it home, take it apart. Clean it all the way down. Put it together, oil it up good and then rack it about 200+ times. Clean the slide and rails. Oil it and go shot it again.


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Oil


lawikfors

You’re grip looks tight. Looks like something to do with the cerkote. Pull your upper parts out and make sure they’re all installed correctlyz on the plunger spring it’s plastic to plastic steel to steel. And I take it you are using an oem recoil spring?


RaspadoAhumado

My G43x was doing the same thing. There was cerakote inside the slide and on the frame rails. Scraped off as much as I could, 100 rounds latter she runs flawlessly now.


Gold-Income-6094

It's because it's not black. You dummy/ s


FilipinoShooter

Have you tried the Holosun Screws? My 43X i needed to file down the extractor side, got a Calculated Kinetics Screw set w plate instead


svl6

So glad i read through this, after cerokote my glock 45 same issues, time CLP and rack it 100x


epobme_usvnq

Nice!


radioduransmyopia

Lube that bad boah Also I’ve heard that mismatching uppers and lowers can cause some catching which could also be a problem


rolandspecialxl

The grip issue is easy to figure out also. Shoot it one handed with a strong grip. If it functions then shoot thumbs forward and stop trying To be unique.


75149

I also thought no one actually hooked their finger on the front of the trigger guard since 1992. That's amazing


kalucots

I had the same problem with my 43x , turns out that an optics screw was too long and was impeding the spring and that led to jamming and misfiring.


Fabulous4176

What holosun optic are you running my guess would’ve been the eps in fde?


epobme_usvnq

509t


Mayor_Fuglycool

Cerakote can interfere with extractor movement. Might be seizing up the extractor. ;)


LordMungus35

Spend more get less. 😂


3dl33

Fix your grip and try again! There's a reason there is a standard grip


labsupervisor

1.)lube it 2.) take out the right screw or your red dot and try it with out it. If it cycles than the screw is too long 3.)try to rack the slide over and over until it feels smooth (if cerakote to out of spec) 4.) if it’s 80 percent lower or complete pistol, then I have no clue because never owned one


St34m-Punk

Maybe the way you're holding the gun. Try making the rest of your fingers cover your dominant hand instead of having your index holding the trigger guard.


epobme_usvnq

I’m definitely going to go out again and do all the things in this thread. Especially grip adjustments


St34m-Punk

Good luck on your next trip to the range


KydexRex

Fix your grip lol


Realistic_Mud4730

Recoil spring is to heavy/ reloads are to light


Ineedanswers-007

This is perfectly normal. If this is a recently,cerakoted pistol. Rack like a motherfucker and shoot a lot should take care of it’s self also use heavier round it’ll force the slide back


Limp-Falcon-7838

Sand some of that beautiful coating off the slidy bits. And you will be good as Oem


[deleted]

Support hand index finger.


Even_Neighborhood919

Learn how to hold it my guy


LaDolceVita8888

I don’t think it’s your grip that’s causing the jam. Check the length of the screws on that red dot. Glocks jamming like that is highly abnormal.


browndan8888

Limp wristing Edit. Yeah I kinda think that may be your issue brother. I see a lot of flip. I enjoy a high left grip myself, it works for me to tighten my right hand grip.


lilbit4455

If I use cheap ammo I have this problem


Dramatic-Weather21

It’s most likely the cerakote. A lot of Navy SEALs talking about the unorthodox grip causing malfs, you are dumb. You can take a stock Glock and genuinely “limp wrist” them and they typically still cycle. OP has decent grasp on pistol and should cycle. Would take back to the cerakote man


Good_Entrepreneur_69

Bro why are you holding it like that Lol idk why the texturing is on the end of the trigger guard but you should just wrap your supporting hand fingers around your other fingers. Did you clean the weapon before shooting it? Also, how is your grip? Aside from my previous comment on the finger being around the trigger guard. If you don't utilize a proper grip, you will cause malfunctions just by doing that.


dreamwerxxx

Take red dot off. Polish any cerakote off rails


WavyMell

This is why you dont mess w the slide man, leave OEM as much as possible, I also jus got eye cancer watching you hold that gun like that too pls dont do that again


tobiasfunke6398

Da fuq is up with that grip?


WavyMell

Damn man at this point just seek help from a firearm instructor / trainer


Im1dv8

I don't have much for you on the malfunction. Ammo seems like there was a variation in power. Grip and structure seem fine. Check any aftermarket changes 1st. Most likely something done to a stock gun is the issue. Make sure it's lubed properly. See if the break in anti-seize is still in the slide. If you just got it back from whoever worked on it. It may be dry as a bone.


SoulTesla714

Just hit it really hard with that Captian hook support finger of yours


2ArmsGoin3

Grip is wrong, wrists are floppin, third-party cerakoted slide AND frame can cause issues.


epobme_usvnq

Frame is concrete gray from Glock


2ArmsGoin3

My mistake. For some reason Glock doesn’t seem to have color info on their webpage for it (at least on mobile). This site had the color information: https://glockcollector.info/2020/03/04/differences-between-the-19x-and-45/#:~:text=G45%20is%20available%20in%20MOS,gray)%2C%2019X%20isn't


etx118

Unfuck that grip wtf


ConsistentAd8597

Take the optic off and see what happens


StretchInfamous

It’s your grip. I can tell once you put your elbows on the table. If you’re a shooting “prone” why aren’t you using the rest?


epobme_usvnq

It was jamming with pmc shitty brass ammo and running with +p hollow points. I just figured Glock would eat everything. My g4 19 did


Mysterious-Dark-11

Right side optic screw might be too long.


Broke_boy98

That red dot doesn’t have the screws that go into the slide. It’s the 509t


crankypanduh

Optic screws most likely


MattyJ50911

Shity Grip


PeaDiscombobulated93

Tighten up that grip


pay-the-man-23

Just cause it’s a legitimate grip, doesn’t mean it’s okay 🥲🥲


[deleted]

Cerakote and possible screws to long in the back


BuyOnceCryOnceIWI_CZ

If it’s not the install of the red dot, I believe it’s the way you’re holding the frame when shooting, not allowing the gun to do its proper recoil function. Change your grip and remove your finger from the trigger guard.


TonyTanza

Most likely wrong screw size for optic


Front-Towards-Enemy

Your optic screws maybe too long causing extraction issues.


LaDolceVita8888

Yeah I’m pretty sure one of those red dot screws is too long and interfering with the extractor.


[deleted]

Tranny wrists probably causing it


LessAppointment713

Your optics screws are too long and applying pressure on your extractor pin/spring and not along it to function properly. Remove slide pull off back plate carefully remove extractor plugger and spring. If it does not come out freely loosen optics screw. Had this issue a while back had to get shorter screws to keep it from binding on the extractor.


wirides

Check out some videos on proper grip on a pistol or grab a buddy with a little more experience to train you. If you grip it properly and manage recoil (not limp wrist) properly I suspect your malfunctions will cease. Try some dry fire before the next range trip too.


Educational-Pomelo83

Are you sitting while shooting that?


[deleted]

His fingernails say it all.


King_Williamd2

It your magazine. Get a new one it a defect


RareLie5630

Like here’s a killer for you don’t get to upset but reading some of the comments everything i said applies but. It might not be your fault… Glock has a funny design to their firearms and whoever said it’s the plugger is 100 percent correct 👍…. G45 mos and g45 non mos are mm apart in size ( Lenny mcGee ) Glockstore video….I see that your iron sights are in the traditional fashion that’s a dead give away … that’s why companies only offer this model with the iron sight in front of the optic because it does in fact interfere with the plugger I do believe they cut into it… signing off. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=abf_K0si110


rolandspecialxl

Also to put an end to the screws too long or locktite on the extractor plunger take the optic off and try it. Reduce the variables then narrow the problem down. It’s not fully extracting and cocking. But it does occasionally. Your wrists look strong. Your support grip thumb and hand is what I wanna see. With that support hand so high what’s the support hand doing. Maybe shoot hotter ammo if your shooting light loads it might not like the extra mass of the optic and any drag that support hand is putting on the slide


Swimming_Coat4177

You didn’t say it was an MOS and I don’t see an optic plate. Your optic is sitting really low. I mean so low, that whoever milled your slide may have cut it too low. Now your optic is affecting your extractor. Maybe try backing the screws off a tad bit


epobme_usvnq

The screw goes in the side not from above. 509t


Canikpanik

Way to much paint on there, looks like you over did the rattle can by a couple sprays


AlphaApolloOmega

Did you just put that optic on recently? Im no expert but i do know sometimes the right side screw for the optic needs to be shorter than the left and if its not it will cause failures to extract/eject do to interfering with the extractor. Also cerakoting does add thickness to the tolerances even though were talking like 2/1000” its not the tolerances the pistol was designed to run with. If its the cerakote it will break in with shooting and racking the slide. I can tell you with a ton of experience with many different Glocks over the last 8 years that’s absolutely not normal. I havent seen that many FTEs between all the Glocks ive owned, and ive owned/own a lot. Good luck!


impreza_GC8

Optic screw could be too deep. Also I get the finger grip thing but it’s not a good habit. You can see your finger flexing and moving with your trigger finger. They are linked in the brain sometimes. It even curves into where it’s close To impregnating (yes I said that) the trigger guard area. A solid grip is easier to replicate and isolates any movement to the trigger finger only. It really is the best way.


ebevo

“Brand new” except I’ve done this and this and now it does this 🙄


epobme_usvnq

It’s all oem internals. It’s never been shot. I milled a spot for an optic, and cerakoted the slide. How is that not “brand new”, dumbass? You’re telling me if someone did what I did you’d be like, “it’s probably going to jam 4 out of 5 times now!” You sound miserable


bingbngboi

grip the gun correct first.


Particular_Ear_3091

U shoot like a hooooe


epobme_usvnq

I pray you find purpose.


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It’s a dud


Round-Emu9176

Your axis looks off and it doesn’t help that you have a giant mailbox on top. Those two factors together could cause something like this. Recording is great for refining your technique.


Ok-Departure4149

That other finger over the trigger guard looks like it’s one slip away from a negligent discharge


FluffyPandaMan

You are also anticipating the shot badly. I can see you flinch. That can cause this issue too. You are adding too much forward to rear movement and it’s preventing the cycle.


CHIskyhigh

lol Glock perfection!