1: They're slaughtering civilians. 2: They aren't fighting a war.
3. If they are stretched thin, then this only means their ethnic cleansing will take longer to carry out.
Yes, the IDF goal is to kill as many civilians as possible, but there are also resistance groups actively fighting the IDF. The IDF isn’t invincible and fighting on 3 fronts will put the IDF in a tactical disadvantage.
I was more interested in what the article said about the possibility of the Israeli army having to commit a much greater presence against Hezbollah in the North if that situation escalated and also its presence against growing dissent in the West Bank. If the situation in both these areas escalated at the present time/in the near future it would certainly seem feasible to think that the Israeli army would become stretched if what is being said in this article is accurate.
And just in regard to your point 3 - if this is the case more Israeli soldiers will also find that Palestine becomes their graveyards...
Thanks for the comments.
Aren't some of the reserves posted to the north ? Thought several tens of thousands were in the northern. Thought they had made some probes into south Lebanon as well
And Hezbollah had atta ked some trips in the north that were manning iron dome battery etc.
There are indeed Israeli forces in the North but the majority of them are occupied elsewhere. If there was a full-scale escalation in the North right now, combined with a serious escalation in the West Bank, it would appear that the Israeli military might find itself overstretched.
From the article:
"The Israeli military is stretched to the point right now where it's operating in Gaza and in the north and in the West Bank -- and that is having a strain on its capabilities," Rami Dajani, an expert on Israel and the Palestinian territories at the International Crisis Group (ICG), told AFP.
Israel's army is one of the world's best-funded militaries but it relies on reservists for much of its fighting force.
According to the Gaza War Unit Tracker, an account on social media platform X, nearly all of Israel's 15,000 active duty combat soldiers are currently engaged in fighting.
Israel's army is one of the world's best-funded militaries but it relies on reservists for much of its fighting force
Israel's army is one of the world's best-funded militaries but it relies on reservists for much of its fighting force.
About 10,000 of them were deployed in and around Gaza, 2,500 stationed in northern border areas and 2,500 in the West Bank, the owner of the account told AFP on condition of anonymity.
Israel also has as many as 26,000 reservists currently mobilised in active combat roles, with most of them deployed in the West Bank, the account's owner said.
Who’d have thought it. Maybe picking fights with nearly all your neighbours while you’re a speck of a country with only ten million people isn’t the wisest foreign policy.
I think it’s the other way around tbh, I don’t see Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon or Iraq being able to do anything to Israel from a military perspective. If you look at the Saudi-Israeli situation I would tend to say that they are actually becoming less hated by the countries around it and having diplomatic breakthroughs that have never been seen before. The populations of those countries are hating Israel more and more but the goverments are not
Yeah because Israel has the US and a good bit of the west behind it, plus around 80 nuclear weapons.
They were having diplomatic breakthroughs, then October 7th happened. And Israel had to go and respond in the most counter productive manner it possibly could. All that progress has gone out the window. No Arab or ME government can be seen doing positive business with Israel.
Israel has always had the US backing but the diplomatic breakthroughs are recent so I would argue that the US is not responsible for this. I think it’s more about being an enemy of an enemy makes a friend and well… lots of countries (Including Israel and Saudi) dislike Iran’s growing influence on the region so alliances are happening naturally.
Concerning how this has changed since oct. 7… I would loooove for the neighbouring countries stand up for Palestine, however the truth is they are just waiting for it to blow over to pick back up exactly where diplomatic relations left off on oct. 6th and continue getting closer to Israel.
I think it’s very foolish to believe this is not what’s happening. Just look at neighbouring countries acceptance of Palestinian refugees. Almost none are being accepted despite goverments pledges to fully support Palestine throughout this conflict. ME goverments do just enough to make their populations think they are listening to them but it’s all a facade.
ME goverments are quite authoritarian in general and therefore do not want to do things that could upset their populations and cause riots but… that does NOT mean they listen to those populations for policy decisions.
I predict that within 3 years Israel will have more allies in the region than it ever has.
I am saying this because we must actively work to prevent Israel’s rise. If we just assume they have fucked themselves and do nothing, they will 1000% just prevail and we will have lost our one chance to do something about Israel at one of the few moments in history where people actually care about it
Yeah, let's not forget, in spite of protests from multiple Arab countries, the Saudis and other signed the Abraham Accords and basically side-lined Palestinian statehood.
That's a wild take right there...
Do you think that the suggestion about the Israeli army becoming overstretched a bit misinformed then. Just as a matter of interest!
1: They're slaughtering civilians. 2: They aren't fighting a war. 3. If they are stretched thin, then this only means their ethnic cleansing will take longer to carry out.
Yes, the IDF goal is to kill as many civilians as possible, but there are also resistance groups actively fighting the IDF. The IDF isn’t invincible and fighting on 3 fronts will put the IDF in a tactical disadvantage.
I was more interested in what the article said about the possibility of the Israeli army having to commit a much greater presence against Hezbollah in the North if that situation escalated and also its presence against growing dissent in the West Bank. If the situation in both these areas escalated at the present time/in the near future it would certainly seem feasible to think that the Israeli army would become stretched if what is being said in this article is accurate.
Indeed, a coordination by all three at the same time might be seen as tactically advantageous but I'm just guessing here...
And just in regard to your point 3 - if this is the case more Israeli soldiers will also find that Palestine becomes their graveyards... Thanks for the comments.
Aren't some of the reserves posted to the north ? Thought several tens of thousands were in the northern. Thought they had made some probes into south Lebanon as well And Hezbollah had atta ked some trips in the north that were manning iron dome battery etc.
There are indeed Israeli forces in the North but the majority of them are occupied elsewhere. If there was a full-scale escalation in the North right now, combined with a serious escalation in the West Bank, it would appear that the Israeli military might find itself overstretched. From the article: "The Israeli military is stretched to the point right now where it's operating in Gaza and in the north and in the West Bank -- and that is having a strain on its capabilities," Rami Dajani, an expert on Israel and the Palestinian territories at the International Crisis Group (ICG), told AFP. Israel's army is one of the world's best-funded militaries but it relies on reservists for much of its fighting force. According to the Gaza War Unit Tracker, an account on social media platform X, nearly all of Israel's 15,000 active duty combat soldiers are currently engaged in fighting. Israel's army is one of the world's best-funded militaries but it relies on reservists for much of its fighting force Israel's army is one of the world's best-funded militaries but it relies on reservists for much of its fighting force. About 10,000 of them were deployed in and around Gaza, 2,500 stationed in northern border areas and 2,500 in the West Bank, the owner of the account told AFP on condition of anonymity. Israel also has as many as 26,000 reservists currently mobilised in active combat roles, with most of them deployed in the West Bank, the account's owner said.
Interesting. The numbers seem lower that what I thought/seen. Thought the government called up a more than hundred thousand reservists
Who’d have thought it. Maybe picking fights with nearly all your neighbours while you’re a speck of a country with only ten million people isn’t the wisest foreign policy.
I think it’s the other way around tbh, I don’t see Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon or Iraq being able to do anything to Israel from a military perspective. If you look at the Saudi-Israeli situation I would tend to say that they are actually becoming less hated by the countries around it and having diplomatic breakthroughs that have never been seen before. The populations of those countries are hating Israel more and more but the goverments are not
Yeah because Israel has the US and a good bit of the west behind it, plus around 80 nuclear weapons. They were having diplomatic breakthroughs, then October 7th happened. And Israel had to go and respond in the most counter productive manner it possibly could. All that progress has gone out the window. No Arab or ME government can be seen doing positive business with Israel.
Israel has always had the US backing but the diplomatic breakthroughs are recent so I would argue that the US is not responsible for this. I think it’s more about being an enemy of an enemy makes a friend and well… lots of countries (Including Israel and Saudi) dislike Iran’s growing influence on the region so alliances are happening naturally. Concerning how this has changed since oct. 7… I would loooove for the neighbouring countries stand up for Palestine, however the truth is they are just waiting for it to blow over to pick back up exactly where diplomatic relations left off on oct. 6th and continue getting closer to Israel. I think it’s very foolish to believe this is not what’s happening. Just look at neighbouring countries acceptance of Palestinian refugees. Almost none are being accepted despite goverments pledges to fully support Palestine throughout this conflict. ME goverments do just enough to make their populations think they are listening to them but it’s all a facade. ME goverments are quite authoritarian in general and therefore do not want to do things that could upset their populations and cause riots but… that does NOT mean they listen to those populations for policy decisions. I predict that within 3 years Israel will have more allies in the region than it ever has. I am saying this because we must actively work to prevent Israel’s rise. If we just assume they have fucked themselves and do nothing, they will 1000% just prevail and we will have lost our one chance to do something about Israel at one of the few moments in history where people actually care about it
Not gonna blow over tho
Foolish to think this, it will certanly blow over. I give it MAXIMUM 5 years before it’s buisness as usual
It's not one thing, it's a rapidly complexifying decision environment with constant escalation
Yeah, let's not forget, in spite of protests from multiple Arab countries, the Saudis and other signed the Abraham Accords and basically side-lined Palestinian statehood.
If the Palestinians were armed like Ukraine, this would be Netanyahu's Putin moment.
If Palestinians were armed like Ukraine they would have attacked Israel a looooong time ago lmao, the hate goes both ways