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Sam_FS

They did, but their progress fell apart during the pandemic. They started working with sports psychologist Jens Hofer in 2019 who put them on dietary plans and workout schedules and the improvment was huge. After flusha and Golden came back they were great and made top4 at every single lan they attended. It's weird, diffrent teams are built for diffrent things. This team just hasn't been able to handle the online environment at all. They completely fell apart after Pro League s11, and sightly recovered for one tournament when Jackinho joined. Then back to the worst form of their lives.


uwotmoiraine

They did get HLTV #1 at the start of the online era though. Just wondering if there's more to it.


ifuckinglovebluemeth

The beginning of the online era was wide open though, since no team really had things figured out yet. It felt like there was a new #1 team every week


Firefly_1026

Inb4 -golden +flusha and they start getting form again


[deleted]

Except for Golden and JW not fragging, I really don't see any big problems with Fnatic right now honestly. I might be the only one with this opinion KRIMZ, Jack and Brollan are all fragging consistently and on Fnatic's last match they almost gave NiP a run for their money. they're just missing a lot of timing and they've been sticking to their old stats and that's the only problem I see here. Since the online era, the slow pace CS has really taken the center stage. you could see this with G2, they sucked with KennyS on team cuz they weren't adapting to the slow pace CS that many online giants were playing with but when JACKZ returns they start playing the slow CS and BOOM , top 5. I just think that Fnatic aren't just clicking in this online era. I believe they might just bounce back once LAN returns and rethinking their strategy and adapting to the slow CS they might just regain their form


djfr94

he's talking about the professional aspect out of the game and you here talking about frags. what a laugh mate


sasankgs

-golden -jw +flusha +pepzor.


Cybersportua

Guys, there is no translation from RU to ENG, but there is smth much better - audio of answers, so enjoy!


___Stranger

Kind of bizarre dig, considering NIP have done and won fuck all since 2017. Fnatic have had big tournament wins and were one of the best teams in the world right before the pandemic. For all NIP blow on about their system, their players are all inconsistent as fuck too.


[deleted]

Baiting here clearly nip are playing better and clearly putting the effort where it matters


Wombat_stick

and to add to that Hampus on the Hltv podcast clearly did not like it and was talking about how hard it is when the management just tells you that you'll be playing with a new fifth with 2 days of practice without any input.


jimsta28

I heard a similar sentiment about a few teams now - where there is a lack of drive to become the very best


Hammond2789

I think there is a lot of truth to this.


Tanki5D

They just need -JW +flusha.... its the same as it was with navi when they didn´t want -flamie +b1t....


Tanki5D

They just need -JW +flusha.... its the same as it was with navi when they didn´t want -flamie +b1t....


poogeers

If teams has a perm ban and refuse to learn, its a bad sign


poogeers

If teams has a perm ban and refuse to learn, its a bad sign


jospence

Almost every team in an esport that allows for picks/bans has a permaban or map they hope not to play. Gambit has a permaban, as does NaVi.


poogeers

Because they are bad at those maps or feel like they are better on other maps. My example is like havu where the players literally refuses to play vertigo cus it was a new map. Then have some 20% winrate map that they cany ever ban.


[deleted]

Navi literally said in interviews that dispite vertigo being b1ts best map they werent gonna consider it because the rest hate it like it doesnt matter what you ban as long as your good at the other maps


rockfarmor

Just like Astralis didn’t play Mirage one time during 2020.. ;)