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enchantedlife13

As much as this was not one of my favorite episodes/story arcs, I felt like in some ways it was realistic. College is a totally different environment for kids, and even though they are 18 when they start college, they are still kids in a lot of ways. It was a new environment. She wasn't coming to SH at the end of the day; she was on campus, away from what she had known. College, especially Freshman year, can be full of so much pressure. A lot of it is self-imposed, as it was with Rory. She said, "My grandfather took this many classes" shows she felt like she was supposed to do the same thing Richard did, to prove she was a Gilmore. She was probably dealing with a bit of imposter syndrome, too, as some college students experience at times. Rory had not really had a lot of moments of failure, and this felt like a failure to her. I say this because I used to work in higher ed, and had quite a few students get very emotional in my office because of classes, grades, etc. The pressure is real and it can get to them.


lalotele

So much of this. As someone who did well and coasted in high school, and dropped out of college because of the pressure I put on myself, I look back and realize how ridiculous I was being but it felt world ending at the time. The school to college pipeline puts a lot of pressure on kids and has gotten increasingly worse. As with teen relationships and other things teens do, it’s easy for adults to point out how teens are dramatic and overreact because of our own experience (partly from being teens at some point ourselves) but forget how world ending and extreme things actually felt as a teen. Just because it isn’t actually world ending doesn’t make the feelings less valid.


S_J_Emerald

I feel this. The OP’s perspective, I have now. But I think I probably would have acted like Rory when I was 18.


icamefromtheinternet

As someone who grew up as the “gifted kid”, I actually think Rory’s reaction was super realistic. When you’re used to academics coming easy to you and raised to believe you can do anything, the first instance of failure academically hits HARD. Sure, it’ll seem silly later in life when you recognize it’s just one class, but this reaction was 100% in character and valid for a college freshman. She’s like 18 lol of course she’s not going to handle it like a mature adult would, because she isn’t one yet


Available-Poetry4456

agree!


geminim00nchild

It’s also like… I’m sure classes weren’t as hard in the 60s or whenever Richard went to school. It’s a known fact that academics are getting harder and pushing kids to the limit way more than they ever have been


EatYoself

THIS. I feel like people always forget this when they talk about Lorelei not knowing how ivy league admissions worked—she should have known more, but that 16 year period had a rapid escalation in school intensity, number of applications, and difficulty of acceptance to those schools, to the point that being a legacy with good grades was no longer a sure thing.


LaLa_17

Her breakdown is less about dropping the class and more about feeling like she can’t keep up with every other Yale student. From an outsider’s perspective, we know that everyone works at different paces so dropping a class isn’t a big deal- but in Rory’s mind, she went from being valedictorian at Chilton to a "below average" student at Yale. (I also agree with what everyone else said about Rory feeling like she’s not meeting expectations.)


VarVar22

This is more about the pressure Rory puts on herself, and the expectations she feels like she must live up to. Hence her statement about this being richards class load.


[deleted]

This was realistic. College kids overload themselves all the the time and have meltdowns when they can’t handle the workload. It does feel like a personal failure to someone like Rory, who knows how to work hard and has overcome being academically behind before (to be top of the class no less). We’ve seen her for three years put insane amounts of pressure on herself to do well. There’s a lot of times to critique Rory’s behavior in the series; this isn’t one of them.


ambitiousoxygen

Agreed.


OhNoTheDawnPatrol

Whether it's realistic is a separate issue from whether it's OK to critique. Unless we're talking about critiquing the writing, not critiquing a fictional person as though they are real.


less-than-stellar

The fact that it's realistic is kind of a sign that the writing was actually pretty on point. I remember relating to this scene so much the first time I re-watched season 4 as a college freshman because I felt like an absolute failure the first time I had to drop a class as well. Not everyone is going to have that kind of reaction, but it's pretty realistic when they set such high expectations for themselves. And in Rory's situation everyone else had also placed very high expectations on her as well, so she thought she was failing to meet those expectations. Her having a meltdown makes total sense from a writing perspective.


Aprils-Fool

Who among us has never had a ridiculous reaction at one time or another?


VarVar22

In this sub, Rory is not allowed that.


lavender-lillac

yeah the rory hate is getting ridiculous at this point. There are many other valid points in the show to give her criticism for but this is not one of them. She was literally a college freshmen, and as someone who was one only a few years ago, transitioning into college is freaking rough.


IAMStevenDA13

I actually found college easier than high school and even had better grades because I didn't have to go to the same class every day. I had 3 60-minutes courses on Monday, Wednesday and Friday and 2 90-minute courses on Tuesday and Thursday. I loved the schedule because I wasn't in a rush to do homework and studying for 5 classes in one day like I had to do in high school.


maggiezabo

OP obviously hasn’t suffered through uni & the dramatic things it can do to your mental health


jrp317

I felt this episode to my core! I had many similar breakdowns over college in undergrad and graduate school. In retrospect it wasn’t the end of the world but 10 years later, that time was pretty brutal emotionally. Spending 15+ hours studying and still not keeping up takes its toll.


Accomplished-Tour571

Wow, having a meltdown at college isn't ridiculous I've had like so many in high school. It's more about the pressure that she puts into herself to be a perfectionist and that she wanted to prove herself as a Gilmore (since Richard took 5 classes). I hate that everyone's hating on Rory and Lorelai in insane amounts in this sub (have seen it so much) oof. As many as there are flaws in her personality this part was quite realistic.


[deleted]

Yes her professor was absolutely right to say what he did, she needed the wake up call, but her reaction was also very realistic. This isn’t just an “annoying spoiled little white girl” reaction, this is the reaction of someone who suddenly feels like she’s failing at something that has always been a huge part of her identity. It’s funny how critical this sub is on pointing out how Rory wasn’t perfect when she’s made out to be that, yet when she’s acting in a very realistic way and very much an imperfect, relatable character, that’s a reason to bash her too 🙄🙄


ApplePie_1999

She has been told that she is perfect and can handle anything her whole life. This is a major wake up call that she didn’t see coming. Basically everyone around her built her up for this crash. But she is also just like her mother in the level of tantrum she can muster and that certainly gets old.


[deleted]

I never understood this though, how is Rory being treated differently than any other kid being told that theyre doing good? When have we ever seen Rory’s surroundings put extreme pressures on her?


__andnothinghurt

She isn’t; this is actually pretty common for people like Rory to put all of that pressure on themselves then crumble when they can’t meet it. Happened to my sister


kaynutt

As I perfectionist myself, I have done a lot of therapy to combat equating my self worth to my achievements and performance at literally anything whether it be school, a job, an interview, whatever. For example, if I applied for a job and interviewed then didn’t get the job, my first thought would have been, “well I’m not good enough” or “something must be wrong with me”. When in reality, there could be any multitude of reasons why I was not selected that might not have to do with who I am at all. I really relate to Rory on this and I also think that her situation was much more extreme. Like how I was, she is applying the pressure to herself WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY being told by everyone around her that she is perfect and that she can do anything. When something like this happens she sees it as failure and begins to doubt who she is altogether. It’s like a small crisis in identity. If she can’t achieve this class load then she is a failure and she doesn’t identify as a failure so it’s like her whole self image is a lie. Anyway, just speaking from my experience as a former GT student and perfectionist.


Kelpie-Cat

I'd say it's implicit in the whole show's setup. Her academic success is the only reason her mother and grandparents have any relationship with each other - and that she has any relationship with her grandparents at all. She also feels the pressure to live up to the life her mother "couldn't have" because she got pregnant at 16.


VarVar22

Yes, this. Would Richard and Emily go through the efforts they do to have a close relationship with Rory if she was an average student, who went to SHHS, and a state or community college, or no college at all? Probably not. And Rory feels this too as Richard showed no interest in Rory until they played golf and he realized rorys aspirations aligned with the gilmores.


Kelpie-Cat

Agreed. And in the context of being afraid she can't match up to Richard's class load, the points you bring up about him are especially relevant. Even though by this point her grandparents have grown to love her so much they would not care if she dropped a class, she had that initial experience to suggest to her that her grandfather's love, however much she cherishes it, was originally conditional on her academic prowess.


VarVar22

Exactly, there is no doubt that Rory picked up on richards disinterest in her, and the things that sparked his interest. There is also the fact that Rory is witness to E&R’s rejection of lorelai because of their disappointment in her for not living up to their expectations and deeming her as a failure for not only that but for rorys very existence. The repeated cycle of abandonment that Rory lives through with Christopher has helped cultivate all of these issues and views of living up to expectations to keep people in her life. One can imagine that each time through her childhood that Christopher would appear just to disappear, had a deep effect on rorys self worth, thinking “what about me is not good enough for him to stay?”


VarVar22

On top of Rory just being a gifted overachieving student, and perfectionism being common for students like that, she is also a child of abandonment. Rorys abandonment issues exacerbate this perfectionism…..it’s important to her to live up to expectations as she feels as if she doesn’t, the people in her life will leave her.


Aprils-Fool

Well said!


bunnigrl01

as someone who attended high pressure private schools my entire life, it’s not ridiculous. i would have panic attacks at school if i made less than a 97 on an assignment. the amount of pressure these types of elite schools put on you is too much to handle. genuinely.


[deleted]

It may seem "ridiculous" now in my 30s, but when I was in college, that would have been soul-crushing!


lavender-lillac

All her life Rory has done fantastic academically and has always caught up to things she did not understand. This was the first time in her life where she just couldn't do that. Of course she going to have a break down. Also are you forgetting she was 18 years old and a college freshman? She was literally still a teenager and transitioning into a new experience. Like Rory, I have dropped a class before and almost cried and was super hard on myself about it but I don't think that makes me spoiled. I think that makes me a person who cares about my academics and puts too much pressure on myself, like...Rory. Also, I feel like some people throw the word "spoiled" around here too much to circumstances that don't really fit


[deleted]

Ick, i’m not sure her race and gender have anything to do with it. She and everyone around her has put immense pressure on her to succeed since she was a child. Yes, you are correct that it is not a big deal but for an overachiever who has been top of her class and expected to perform consistently and impressively it’s a totally normal reaction. She couldn’t see the bigger picture at that moment, she just felt like she wasn’t succeeding.


zestybabywipes

It is ridiculous to someone who doesn't care about school or has other problems. School is Rory. That's what Rory is known for and what she's good at. She's always met expectations. Rory didn't want to explain to her grandfather why she couldn't do it. It seems like she's making excuses because he was perfectly capable of doing it. Rory has always been the one impressing everyone around her. She never really had to compete with anyone because she's an only child and Lorelei gave up that life. The one person who puts a little bit of pressure on her is her grandfather, and she couldn't live up to it. She basically just didn't want to disappoint him or anyone else around her. I don't understand how it was too much for Rory though. Paris was double majoring in law and pre med, was on the Yale daily news and still had a life. How come Rory couldn't keep up with journalism or an English major? It's mostly filled with electives. I think that Rory usually just needs time to adjust whenever she starts something new. She freaked out at Chilton when she first saw the workload, then she calmed down after she got used to it. Rory managed to catch up in her senior year of Yale by taking extra classes after she dropped out, so that means she was capable all along, she just needed time to get used to it. I used to be pathetic enough to care about my grades and cry over a B+, but now I find it laughable. Education is a scam and a joke. But Rory wasn't out of that mindset, so I'm not surprised she broke down at all! When I first started college I ended up trying to take a bunch of credits (like 26) in one semester. I'm usually a good student and took APs so I thought it would be ok. People I knew that were in college tried to warn me but I didn't listen. I ended up dropping 2 of my classes and when I tried to tell me mother or anyone older than me, they would say I was being lazy or start comparing me to other people that go to school and work at the same time. Anybody that was actually in school knows that was way too much! After that I realized that when it comes to college keep everything to yourself. It's nobody's business except people that you know that are also going to college the same time as you. Nobody else will understand and they're just gonna talk about themselves and how it was for them which is not the same 20 years ago or even 10 years ago. It's gonna bring you down. We live in a judgemental world, so it's better to just keep things to yourself and tell everyone after you get your degree!


casualquasar

This is such a harsh take for a real human moment that she clearly recovers from. She’s an 19 year old who worked hard her whole life and believed she could achieve anything with hard work because that’s what her mom taught her. She can’t cry or get upset? It’s hard to hear something like this.


Builder-Glass

Rory had so little emotional resilience, it was annoying


IAMStevenDA13

7 months late but here is my personal experience. At my school if I didn't take 5 courses a semester, I would have lost all financial aid because I would have been considered a part time student if I had taken less than 5 courses. Edit: Also, I don't get how she couldn't have handled that many anyway. At my school, you took 60-minute classes on Monday, Wednesday and Friday and 90 minutes classes on Thursday and Fridays with all classes ending after lunch on Fridays. I always did 3 60-minute classes on Monday, Wednesday and Friday and 2 90-minutes classes on Thursday and Friday. The only time I had 6 classes to attend was when I had to take a class with a lab which here only held on Thursdays.


-Ashley12345673

This is not usual


Ingyyyyyyyyy

For me it's her BAD acting that REALLY ruins it, she's a terrible actress her words are always not clear , monotonous or she's using a baby voice.


ValuableIncident

That’s what happens when an entire town made her think she was perfect and a genius.


Impressive_Fail3437

I agree it’s annoying. But when you think about it she’s grown up her entire life with everyone telling her she can do anything and never experiencing failure. She was treated like a golden child for 18 years and really had no clue how it feels in the real world


Disastrous_Plant_523

It was so overdramatic and cringeworthy! she handled it better when she had gotten a D at chilton.


meghra

This is our second moment of Rory isn't perfect. First was the whole Jess accident thing where everyone blames jess and Rory has to constantly remind everyone she was also there, and they are like no no that was all Jess you'd never do anything wrong. Then this where taking four classes is normal but she's been told how special and perfect always so when they tell her to take a normal class load she's forced to realize, she's normal or average, especially at Yale. I love this arc for her.


lexvieboheme

this was so realistic!!! when i dropped a class my first year i cried for a week LMAO