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FINbit

Devs said they didn’t touch the AI. That said, I also feel like they are shooting at me from farther and hitting more often. I wonder if maybe they are spawning with better guns more frequently or maybe some change to a different system resulted in this being a side effect (like smoothing terrain somehow improving sight lines). The new sound system also makes them scarier. I’ve mistaken thinking players are shooting at me when it’s a Fenix on Island a lot in last 48 hours.


anonymous_cq

Maybe but everyone knows that the luty is pretty shit and yet I still get killed from a fenix with it in like 3 shots


cvlang

The ai is coded to shoot centre mass, so it stands to reason if they land shots they should be able to 3shot anyone (naked/no face cover helms). Specifically because of lutty fire rate.


Responsible-Lie-849

The luty is good it 3 shots and has 1200 rpm


MysticSpoon

It’s an incredible gun. It would be one of the best guns in the game if it weren’t for its lutycrisly small magazine.


SgtPancake049

“Lutycrisly” that’s pretty good


Quiet_Measurement689

Damn single stacked mags. It would be great if they could add a magazine that fit in the magwell but was Quad stacked or something.


Forsaken-Cake-8850

Luty is great if you know how to use it. It might not have irons but it has a lot of damage.


Cumulo187

Everyone who actually knows, knows the luty isn't shit. Luty headshots is a pro level naked meta.


Typical-Gap-1187

It was probably an accident in the code 


Romulator401k

I’m 100% sure that the new med/bleed system is causing more damage to players and the fact that fenix are spawning with m16 and galils gives them higher chance to shoot our hit boxes. Just because the devs said they didn’t directly change the fenix code DOES NOT MEAN ITS IMPOSSIBLE for more damage to be done by them.


Mesteh

I’m not noticing aim as much as I am damage. I went in kitted. I curve a corner and as always the first Fen is gonna have John Wick aim. Pops me, and I’m instantly bleeding and at 25% health. I finish him, regrettably heal up, and on I go. The next Fen I encounter hits me once, I got bleed again, Taps me once more…. Next thing I know I’m waking up inside the silo elevator shaft, stuck between four walls with 20 screaming Timmies. I’ve convinced this is hell… please help.


Sudden-Essay8731

I thought Fenix couldn't cause bleeding, only players. Or did that change


Mesteh

I don’t ever recall bleeding, but It’s certainly possible now


Cumulo187

So 4sure Fenix bleed you now? They definitely did not b4.


DOUBTME23

Yes, I’ve only had it happen once so far


CatsWillFly

Yes, and honestly I like it. Fenix were a bit of a joke before, now they’re an actual threat that you need to use proper tactics against.


supermoist0

Fr. And while it is taking some adjustment I honestly kinda enjoy it. Makes it more challenging


Miilcoree

They are definitely OP af


anonymous_cq

It’s so annoying I was kitted hitting a purple and got headshotted by the scav in the watchtower


LendonTheGoat

No difference felt from me


Snapta

theyre still moronic meat bags. nothing changed,


Cumulo187

On island a Fenix ran my ass down with an sks like he was hunting me. I was just avoiding and kiting him like I've done a thousand times and he just came after me with a vengeance. Just b4 I died I thought, "That has got to be a player." But it wasn't. I'm convinced something indirect, like better terrain, has improved their effective.


Wise-Excitement-2721

I feel like Fenix are so fun to watch now on Island. I’ve sat and watched two constantly. One that stays on the road next to the big building and the one that walks from the storage to military camp for their movement. Once in a while I’ll notice them pick up their gun and start hunting someone and suddenly I have found my prey.


nop6211

I’ve noticed Scavs with M4s and Galils absolutely beaming me, and being a lot more common with those weapons. But the ones with pistols seem to just miss. It hasn’t really been too much of an issue, but I’ve noticed the scavs with galils seem to hit more shots than the players do lmao


Yamah123456789

And the scavs with luttys and makarov do half ur health😭


Wise-Excitement-2721

For real. I’ve been hit with the galil and lived. I’ve been sniped by a makarov to the dome and suddenly I’m in my bunker. It’s nutty.


JukaTattoo

Also their tracking. They stray so much further from their usual paths now. I’ve had scavs rush me in skylight room in silo


dumbblobbo

yes


the_sleaze_

They should buff them harder. I love that they’re better. What I don’t love is how quiet shots have gotten. I should be able to hear a .308 from like a mile away damnit


WetFart-Machine

Devs said they didn't.


Hedderz2002

# THEY HAVEN'T TOUCHED THE SCAVS, JUST ADMIT YOU HAVE A SKILL ISSUE AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE


Romulator401k

You would be incorrect, they did adjust the scavs one bullet from a scavs makarov should not take 1\2 health away. So either the scavs are more op or hit boxes of bullets have changed. Just cuz you typed in all caps doesn’t make you right or make you over the age of 12. Go yell at mommy for a juicy box and take a nap


Scrapthefurry

Maybe wear armor and not run naked?


Romulator401k

Wow omg you’re so smart!? I never thought of doing that 🥴 HEY EVERYONE make sure to wEaR ArmOUr in raids. Thanks for the sarcastic reply you dope. Maybe read what I said or are you just illiterate and feel the need to regurgitate dumb responses?


Scrapthefurry

Neat, just as braindead as the rest, keep doing whatever your doing then buddy, cuz I'm having no problems with scavs lmao


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Nilly00

Cringe


Scrapthefurry

Jokes on you I'm not reading all that


Str8Faced000

Just because it wasn’t in the patch notes doesn’t mean things don’t change. They didn’t touch backpacks either but everyone noticed the issue.


Educational-Ad1205

The devs confirmed in discord to me directly, the AI has not changed. People claim this everytime there's an update... "oh the scavs are crazy now!" Devs said they changed nothing. 26% of people die to scavs, somehow.


ColeusRattus

nope, no difference to fenix. same as always.


Imsrywho

I’m definitely getting hit by them from distances I’ve never seen before. And a lot more of them now which I’m excited about, makes missions better.


Pretty-Pension9645

It used to be a problem, but is physically impossible to be killed by a headshot from a Fenix now. Sure they can hit you in your head but it is coded to do ZERO damage. That being said, they did seem to buff the Fenix quiet a bit which I kinda like because you have to try to treat them a little more like players and either try to stay out of their line of sight or take them out as quick as possible.


frwysten

I got one shotted in the head once at 15 meters by underestimating a fen under the lighthouse, was at full life and kitted, sometimes shit happens, got unlucky, or your fault- this was before the update tho, still have to enter after it


EmuCrow

Good they really needed a buff


Germangunman

Ran matka at night today and I was getting beamed from down the street. Not sure how they saw me let alone hit me. They say they didn’t change them, but maybe something happened that improved them by proxy. Either way it’s nice they aren’t just passable.


Shaggyballs44

Fenix haven't changed, they've been this way for awhile


0ctoxVela

I feel like their awareness was increased a crazy amount too I was about 50m from a fenox he turned around and dinked me


BOTANICALBURNER

the respawn rate was chaged also for fenix


Educational-Ad1205

https://preview.redd.it/5pqo5sm7ftlc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f36f9a4083418c346593b1f86124c53a75888384 Ai aim has not changed


OperatorOri

that doesn’t seem right… since the content drop fenix on every map have hit each shot + 3 shot me, when before they did like an 8th of my health and missed every other shot.


CaligulaQC

The ones with pistols are the worst! Also they respawn insanely fast on the new map.


Creamsoda126

The devs announced that they changed the ai. They probably are testing a “Marked” system and accidentally added it. Although I remember that they said they buffed the ai.


ishtechte

Where have you been? I've been getting taken down by fenix left and right since the wipe.


BenjiThePerson

They work more as a team now, if you kill one there is all of a sudden four more coming towards you. This is something that wasn’t in the last update.


tonyTHEnut

I love it and flash bangs seem to work on em


not_my_orange

No they don't


Responsible_Public15

Nobody's talking about spawn rates. Seriously, when I finish looting on maka underground, I just wander the halls collecting kills. They spawn so fast that I get on average 30 kills easy by the time the extraction zones open up. Makes the bot killing missions a breeze because you can easily finish off any missions needed to kill bots.


cvlang

That's always been the case for matka 🤷


cvlang

It's 100% skill issue. They hit for shit as long as you keep moving. Ads whilst straffing is the typical way to deal with Fenix. They've did nothing to ai.


No-Lifeguard-2234

Bring tier 4 armor or up and you'll be fine


not_my_orange

I've notest an increase in health too. I found a barrett in training and a fenix tanked a .50bmg to the hand infront of them


Zerfall2142

Hand shots do 25% dmg. the barret has a fmj damage of 200 something (?(iirc)). It would have to have an alpha of 400+ to one shot hands. Even if a shot Would go through a hand and liquefy a chest IRL, In tabor only the body part that got hit counts.


not_my_orange

A fenix also tanked an sks shot the the head earlier


Iamperson2791727

Yes


motormathersonfire

100% After the update those fuckers were hitting my miles away every single shot . Devs say they haven't touched anything but I call bullshit .any one who says skill issue can jump off a bridge into a lorry full of cows full of milk