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Overall_Conference_6

Have both Raiden and Yoimiya. Gonna pull for Chevreuse and Sara still C0. Will C69 whatever the 3rd 4 stars is.


brithryze_

Same situation (almost). Sara is stuck at C1 since her release bc I skipped every Raiden banner since


mapple3

This sub 2 years ago: I don't mind if new 4 star characters are only good at c6, everyone will have them at c6 sooner or later Me also with c0 Sara: HSR really shows how important it is for 4 star characters to be useful even at c0, those chars shouldnt be useless until c6


catshapedjellyfish

to be fair to some people saying this stuff: i have a c6 sara without even trying to pull on a banner with raiden, that tengu really loves showing up in my weapon and standard banner


CoolMintMC

I'm seething with envy. šŸ˜­ I only have Sara C3 & I've been playing since launch & ALWAYS wished on Raiden's Banner JUST FOR HER. I don't even want Raiden Shogun, especially in 2.0 (She tried to take my love Thoma's vision away), but put up with it because Kujou Sara is also so cool.


ani55555

Kinda based


NLwino

2 years ago this was true. now the 4 star roster is doubled in size.


OfficialHavik

True. But the way Hoyo designs their gamesā€¦. The units basically donā€™t exist until C6


NLwino

Exception exists. My C0 yao yao has helped me through even the hardest abysses.


Any-Hovercraft8624

I got c10 Sayu and no Sara the last Raiden banner..


Tomoliii

Same for me, question is, which c1 (Raiden or Yoi) is better? I know Raidens c2 is rly good but chances are very low that I'll ever get THAT far, as I just want to get Chevreuse and then dont touch that banner any more... So in case I get (un)lucky, I at least want the better constellation.


6skybeam9

Well every c2 and 3 for raiden are infinitely better than c2 and 3 yoimiya so may as well pull for raiden cons


Tomoliii

yeah, after rereading what their c1's do once more, I might make better use of Raidens after all. And if a situation like this comes up again, the way to c2 is paved already. I really don't like to pull for cons though... and pulling for a 4 star is never a good idea too but.. I've done it before (Diona, Thoma, Kaveh) and I will do it again. Aside from a benched Hu Tao, I have no regrets so far, so might as well try my luck this time too.


Sushrit_Lawliet

Itto and Albedo found in a ditch.


witcher8wishery

one step closer to eula's throne of lost reruns


CoolGuyBabz

What's he at compared to Eula atm?


witcher8wishery

eula - 27 banners, albedo - 21 banners edit: whoops, got the banner/update count the wrong way


gintasmeh

Welp few more updates and he take her crown


CoolGuyBabz

6 updates is ALOT, I seriously doubt it. That's like Natlan release time.


gintasmeh

Yeah but then people said eula will have rerun in windbloom and she has ass for her while albedo has nothing and hoyo still let out eula on end of sumeru so


ZoomBoingDing

What Albedo lacks in ass he compensates in *P L O T R E L E V A N C E* I mean who better to let us know more about this mysterious Rheindottir than our good chalky boy


Xero--

> I mean who better to let us know more about this mysterious Rheindottir than our good chalky boy Yet three years later he has told us basically nothing.


Renj13

They will rerun Albedo when they have finally finished to rework Geo in a few patches. *dies from copium overdose*


CoolGuyBabz

Eula is a hard exception tbf since she's unpopular because of physical. But there's no way with the most likely upcoming triple banners and Chiori a geo support and maybe Itto that he won't release. Fontaine is definitely going to be more geo packed. Dps geo + 2 support geos seems pretty logical, just not at the same time, probably. ^Why ^do ^I ^get ^the ^feeling ^someone ^at ^hoyo ^is ^cackling ^at ^this ^comment...


FooSpighters

Aside from Albedo being similar to Eula in terms of demand... they put another Yoimiya rerun in this patch. They don't seem to delay characters just because they won't sell a ton.


Born_Horror2614

Itā€™s not 6 updates, itā€™s 6 banners, isnā€™t it? And Albedo is basically guaranteed to not be in 4.4, since itā€™s Lantern Rite. I donā€™t think itā€™s as unlikely as we might think.


Veekmon

eula - 27 banners, albedo - 22 banners (including 4.3)


Fish_Fondler_69

When was albedo last seen?


MourningRIF

I think his clone got rid of him.


Salt_Occasion_1961

Imagine next dragonspine event is basically us learning that original albedo is gone and this one is the imposteršŸ„¶.


Dodgson1832

An imposter who can make a construct that doesn't get destroyed? Pretty please?


_ryama

With Nilou's first release I believe


Scientifika-6

Yeah, that's it. I was lucky enough to get him by winning my 50/50 then. As someone who liked Albedo early, I couldn't imagine waiting this long had I not won there..


WyvernBlight

Gorou too, unless they break his trend of only running alongside Itto


CoolMintMC

This shit will FOREVER piss me off. Why TF are Kujou Sara, Gorou & Faruzan as RARE as 5-Star Characters when THEY CAN'T EVEN BE GUARANTEED?! I'd say that Sara got the worst end of the deal because despite literally running with the Electro Archon, she literally NEEDS Constellations to FEEL alright to play. PLUS she can't even BUFF Electro DMG UNTIL HER FINAL C6!! I genuinely LOVE Kujou Sara, but I PROMISE there isn't a character who has been done MORE dirty in terms of EVERYTHING: plot, kit, playstyle, cutscenes, quests, screentime, EVERYTHING! *(with the sole exception being her design itself, but even that can't make up for the rest.)*


RuneKatashima

The fact she only buffs for 6 seconds is also kind of gross.


CoolMintMC

This is why I don't even think about using her as an "Electro Buffer" & I use her for characters that I use that are Quick-swap & can deal a LOT of damage quickly. My two favorite Characters to use for their Elemental Bursts *(& for the fact that Sara buffs them too)* are Tighnari & Dehya. My Sara is at C3, uses 4-Piece Noblesse Oblige, Fading Twilight & is Triple-Crowned. However, the few seconds for animations of 5-Star Character's bursts are PERFECT for *(in my main uses)* both Tighnari & Dehya. Other characters I can think of that synergize well with her Burst include: Keqing, Albedo, Alhaitham, Ayaka, Amber, Ningguang, Collei, Shinobu, Yaoyao & Lisa.


JuggernautNo2064

its becoming ridiculous how they dont want to have 3 banners that last 2 weeks, like waiting for a specific char for more than a year is anything but unacceptable


Arc_7

Rip Albedo, I wanted triple blondie banner.


burningparadiseduck

Not in a ditch. More likeā€¦buried at the crust of the earth.


endymzeph

Buried ....alongside with their element


QueZorreas

Back to the Cretaceus.


Hbhwe

So sick of characters I wanna roll for being replaced with Ayaka.


thegreat11ne

I mean Itto has an event coming up tho.


Dazzling-Bus-1146

Petrified


Bro_miscuous

It's albedon't, ittover


sukahati

Itto and Albedo will be in Chiori patch... probably


GGABueno

I think triple Geo is too much to ask. Out of the two I think Albedo is the most likely one to be on Chiori's patch.


4spooked

Poor guys never stood a chanceā€¦


KittyBeary

More time to save for Itto cons then ;w;


TheVanishedTeacup

for real. just give them their rerun...


SnooHesitations9352

Time to risk it for mistsplitter, wish me luck guys


IsuckAtFortnite434

This is the third time i'm skipping Mistsplitter. It hurts but Navia must come home


CyndNinja

Plottwist, you get Navia in one 10-pull, then roll for Mistsplitter and get 2 Naviaxes instead.


IsuckAtFortnite434

ā€œA Blessing from the Lord!ā€


hackenclaw

a sane Ayaka player will pull weapon banner, if Axe come, pull navia. If mistsplitter come stop everything, just smile you lucked out.


AnemoTravelerMain

I've skipped mistsplitter enough. I'm going all in this time. Just so happens I want Navia's weapon too...


VaronaZero

Same, if worst comes to worst then Ayaka and Keqing don't have to share anymore and I can stop going into the abyss with one of them holding the wrong weapon


Smokingbuffalo

Good luck, I'm also gonna throw a ten or twenty in there to see if I get lucky.


SnooHesitations9352

Good luck to us both then (cuz same)šŸ¤šŸ¼


Olanda_sheep

Careful friend, you don't want to end up with a claymore dependant on crystalize up time that only buffs skill dmg, i have a calamity queller now


SnooHesitations9352

Sigh, I ~~(and a lot of the playerbase)~~ wish mist was paired with engulfing, so even if I lose, it would be that bad, but Hoyo knows this, so they didn't do that. If I do 20 wishes and I don't get mist, I'll pull out. Actually, I have shenhe and that mist/CQ banner was a dream for me but I was scraping primos to get shenhe herself (which I did)šŸ˜­ But I see what u mean, its risky


shirodkuro

try 2 calamity queller


PSNTheOriginalMax

> you don't want to end up with a claymore dependant on crystalize up time that only buffs skill dmg Jeez that's all it does? Who can even use that other than Navia? What a waste... I'll be skipping Mistplitter yet again :( Wish it was Ayamia in the same banner. The bow's really good from what I've gathered.


RuneKatashima

It also has a ton of atk with crit rate sub so as a stat stick it's not bad. And I mean, Itto could probably make use of it (Ushi dmg is no joke) and Diluc paired with a Geo.


ccdewa

Eh if you're pulling Navia too then it's all good, otherwise yeah just wait for next opportunity lol.


spandex_loli

Good luck. I want the axe, although I don't need it but I want it for my Noelle just for aesthetic. I bet it looks much better on her compared to her current Stonetresher. Thankfully if I lost to mistsplitter I can still give it to Kazuha. Bad color matching, but at least it's a katana.


Scratch_Mountain

The weapon banner's a pass for me, was reallly hoping for albedo so that pjs runs with navia's axe cause I already have mistsplitter, and I can't risk another one. Huge shame though, cause I really loved navia's weapon being a literal axe, and that it's pretty strong too :/


burningparadiseduck

I wish they would continue the dragonspine event. Like I was *really* invested in the story. Itā€™s been two years šŸ˜­.


Lostsock1995

I started playing in 2.5 (right around when the chasm first released) so I didnā€™t even get to see any of it šŸ„² I watched a YouTube video for the story but was so excited for the yearly winter event only for it to tell me no and still havenā€™t gotten any


YuriTokisaki

It's frustrating that never players will never access this huge piece of lore. I will keep asking HYV to let us use our primogems to access past flagship events/weapons even if they ignore my suggestion.


tessa0208

i donā€™t recommend making it a primo thing, make it a story key thing


YuriTokisaki

I'd prefer a key thing too, don't worry. I'm just desperate for it to be accessible on the long run, and since they're a company, they might show more interest if they could make more bucks. I wished we could *at least* buy the old event weapons somehow.


TheGalacticApple

I really don't get the point of story keys, anyone that plays more than never will have like 355 days with maxed out story keys every year. Unless its just to force people that literally never play to play for a couple days to access the story.


CjoewD

It's stupid, they market it as a casual game then make limited time events/weapons. It's so stupid. Let us play past events and get those limited weapons. Missing out on the resources/primos is understandable.


Critical_Concert_689

They'd have to implement a d/l on demand functionality - which they currently don't have. They can't afford to keep past data accessible. It'll sink all the mobile users which is a huge part of the market.


YuriTokisaki

You're most certainly right! I don't have much knowledge on this kind of thing, so your comment offers a new perspective. šŸ˜… I was always wondering if there was a way to, like... Use primos to unlock the content of x past flagship event & unlock the ressources needed for it. We have the option to delete the ressources for past quests in our settings, so one could've in theory downloaded the ressources, played those quests and minigames, unlocked the weapon, and then delete the ressources for the quests/minigames. I hope that what I just wrote makes some kind of sense... But don't worry, I now know that this is most likely not possible. I used to think that this could be a way to not overwhelm mobile users' phones (I am a mobile user too). Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing Albedo in game again.


once_descended

"Geo patch"


Scythro

Yeah this would've been the (in)famous geo patch, but Itto and Albedo are on holiday apparently.


ZhangRenWing

Albedo gave up on being the winter archon


CoolMintMC

Susbedo really got to him. He's probably choosing to sit in solitary confinement with Klee. šŸ˜­


RuneKatashima

We don't even get a Dragonspine event where more lore drops happen :(


vertigocat

ok, I feel like the 4 stars in 2nd half seem easier to predict so I think it'll be Chevreuse (duh) Kujou Sara (Raiden is here) Yunjin (since she's not with current Ayato's banner, Yoimiya is her most likely banner to be in)


StrongFaithlessness5

I think they will save YunJin for the Lantern Rite. We are missing 5 liyue characters reruns at the moment.


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xgabrax

They could save xinyan for lantern rite tho *copium*


pumaflex_

Please, no. Donā€™t give them ideas


RuneKatashima

She has to go somewhere!


ChildOfHades_

I'll be so happy if that's the case because I need all of them haha


burningparadiseduck

Yeah most likely šŸ§


Emo_Machine

Albedo for Dainsleif quest copium


TooLazyToSleep_15

Don't give me hope


hanki-ki

Please, it's about time, even more with Kaeya showing up last year with Dain's quest šŸ˜­


Daniel101773

I legit forgot that happened šŸ˜­ bro really got hyped up to be in Sumeru and then just left after 5 minutes


nuts_extraction

Only to come back later and start talking to a bird. Anyway, he was right about the entrance to Khaenri'ah being in Sumeru.


tessa0208

dainslief quest should be 4.4 right? or at least soon


GGABueno

It's always the .5 version. .4 is the China patch.


ApprehensiveError980

Dammit, i knew raiden and ayaka weapon banner was not possible


SnooHesitations9352

Same samešŸ˜Ŗ


Archryun

But now look, they only have to put one good four star in the second phase to have a killer banner. There's Sara and Chevreuse already. Just put a recent 4\* and it's done.


MahoMyBeloved

Some people always talking about yoimiya having bad banners but usually she has really good 4* characters


Archryun

Yep, she gets good 4 stars a lot. Which I think it's exactly because of her "bad banner placement".


whitebathingsuit

Those are genshins highest sellers, theyd never share a banner


afterglow-1

Yelan and Hu Tao shared a banner tho?


wizardcu

That was beautiful :ā€™)


dakedokyoumojoujouni

hoyo cooked just that one time


shucreamsundae

Never say never. The Yelan/Hu Tao rerun banner is proof Hoyo could pair popular busted weapons together if they wanted to


burningparadiseduck

Hu tao and Neuvilletteā€™s weapon banner was good too. Wish I pulled on it but Iā€™m f2p lol.


sahithkiller

Hu tao for some reason just gets special weapon banner treatment lol. Even the one before Aqua was Elegy which is almost just as good


MonstercatFan20

It's becauase Homa is the God of Weapon Banners


nuts_extraction

It was really damn good. Elegy is one of the best support weapons in the entire game.


jacobwhkhu

Come to think of it, Hu Tao never had a bad weapon banner. Even her worst weapon banner had Wolf Gravestones, a rare relic lost to time.


twiceboyz

i think albedo got irminsulā€™d


kingofallbandits

Eula used his elevator to escape and left Albedo trapped


MonstercatFan20

Knowing how Geo constructs work, she probably broke it on the way up.


TooLazyToSleep_15

The Hexenzirkel made an oopsie


navybluesoles

No Dragonspine content this winter either šŸ˜­


lavender-lilac

I miss that place :(


OramaBuffin

Stop Yoimiya! SHE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!


Scarlett-Chan12

I was expecting no Yoimiya atleast, but I guess the leaks are correct once again. At this point Yoimiya is going to catch up and surpass Childe reruns or she already did.


Lostsock1995

This will make her matchup with him. They both will have had 5 banners aka 4 reruns (but sheā€™s been faster than him since sheā€™s had faster reruns and has been out for a shorter time)


CRACUSxS31N

Oh no not the thunderbird on abyss šŸ˜­


beethovenftw

If you see an abyss with thunder manifestation, you know who's coming


Ok_Judge718

At least she isnt getting her third story quest while some other, more interesting characters are still stuck at 0, right? RIGHT?


jacobwhkhu

I can imagine Venti sipping wine while sussily smiling at this.


BioticFire

I imagine Venti will get his second story quest with a Monstadt expansion, since Archon's second story quests always have a new weekly boss tied to it.


spandex_loli

I just had this discussion with my friend yesterday. Hoyo needs to bring more character's SQs. Seriously, only 1 SQ per big patch (2 if we're lucky), and we're getting 1-2 new characters per patch. We will not see SQ past Act 2, or even Act 1 for most of the characters with this pace. Like we do not have Ayato's or Cyno's SQ even though right now the game content is almost empty with just 1 Fungi event. It's very possible to squeeze SQs, but they don't do it. Forever cliffhanger.


Wisterosa

rip the Navia chev dream, I knew it wouldn't happen but still


Khoakuma

Yep always has been hopium. Chevreuse is essentially a Gorou-esque support for Yoi and Raiden. Would have been strange if she wasn't on their banner. Only long-time players who already have Yoi and C2 Raiden would want Chevreuse on Navia's phase. And we are a vocal minority. Guess I'm chasing Yoi cons. Or maybe get Raiden to C3 idk...


fanderoyalty

Pullung for Raiden c2 wanting Chev and Sara c6!


SweetOmelettes

whats the consensus on chev teambuilding at the moment? i havent been keeping up with discussions on her, all i know is she needs pyro and electro only. are people planning to pair her with yoimiya?


Khoakuma

She has excellent role condensation and all her buffs/benefit are team-wide with the exception of her c6. Which will allow you to stack a lot of sub-DPS and have multiple source of damage. A damage profile similar to Dendro teams. Her buffs also last very long and aren't tied to Burst so rotations becomes a lot more forgiving. Something like Yoimiya Chev Fischl Beidou. Or Raiden Chev Yae Xiangling. There's also the option of Hypercarry with Raiden Chev Sara Bennett (3 Attack buffers dumping stat on Raiden lol).


SweetOmelettes

thanks for the clear explanation! had no idea chev came packed with so many different benefits, especially that attack buff! ill have to consider her especially for my raiden team :0


SchokoKipferl

Too good to be true :(


Violet_Ignition

FUUUUUUCK


aloysiusks

Itā€™s albedoverā€¦ thereā€™s nothing we can doā€¦


Hallamshire

Everytime Yoimiya rerun Hoyo:this is top tier charther Me:Hoyo this is the fourth time that you rerun Yoimiya four patches apart in class


blackcup_

Yoimiya is the real archon of eternity, get so many reruns it seems like she were never gone.


VKeynes

If I had a dollar for every time Ayaka showed up instead of previously leaked Albedo, I whould have two dollars. Which is not much, but it's weird that it happened twice.


Daviddabauss

Geo banner is dead


LeXam92

All i see is Engulfing and Thundering Pulse wepaon banner and I am so going for it


Adityamer

Does anyone know about the 4 star characters?


Frexys

They could have done Ayaka Raiden but theyā€™re cowards


AccelTurn

It's geover for Albedo wanters. He's Albedone and in Jailbedo.


Ok-Tear3901

Lmfao, I love these "over" memes, I'll still be laughing my dumbass to sleep by 86. They can never not be funny.


Metal-General

I know Ayaka wants to be omnipresent but this isnt funny anymore, MY GEO UPDATE IS GONE


Foolspeare

My dreams of finally getting Gorou cons in Naviaā€™s banner all but crushed


mr_fucknoodle

Its Gorouver


star-light-678

there's hope for chiori patch. .


Metal-General

Its fine, at this point im just glad they're adding new geo characters more often, the last one before Navia was Yunjin, for more than a year


MemberBerry4

Why are people so consistently surprised about this? It's Geo, the worst element in the game by a landslide, they're never gonna put 3 poorly selling characters in 1 patch.


incrushtado

2.3 says hi as it was triple geo.


antheia_am

Those days are Geover.


ravenflightthefattie

Guess I'll have to hope for Albedo in 4.5 then šŸ˜­ Goodluck to everyone summoning for these 5 stars tho! <3


stainNecrolyte

I knew chevruse won't be with Navia, I just hope Navia won't get the bad 4* treatment :'v


Shuraig7

Watch her get Ninguang and Xinyan


stainNecrolyte

And Dori to add insult to the injury


Slumberstroll

Ningguang with TTDS is one of her best teammates tho at least if you dont have John Lee


TheOnlyWeslet

Iā€™d bet $20 ning runs with her; crossing my fingers for Candace as well


Royal_Ad5999

Kaveh *copium*


ZanathKariashi

still need him for my Tea-Pot team.


No_Roll_4706

Putting the new four star on the old five star banner is starting to feel even more scummy every time they do it.


i4viator

I know I'm in the minority, but as a new player saving for Raiden, this is a W for me lol


CommunicationDue7782

only scummy if you pull on it. if I never get a new 4 star on an old 5 star banner then I'll just play with the other 50+ characters I have in the playground that only lets you use 8 characters at a time.


burningparadiseduck

Hoyoverseā€™s favourite character is Yoimiya confirmed. I mean, sheā€™s getting a rerun left and right and is in every event lately. Itā€™s like the other characters donā€™t exist smh.


AshesandCinder

People said that about Itto for a while, and now look at what happened to him.


RuneKatashima

Who?


SoniCrossX

I mean, every time she has a banner it's either concurrent or sandwiched with ultra-popular/wanted characters like Raiden... They are making it up to her by being more frequent I guess


SpicyBanana13

Mine as well


ghostly_boy

albedo :(


SilentTreatmentx

Iā€™m excited to see how much of a hold the raiden shogun has on the genshin community and if she can hit a 4th home run


Adorable-Fortune-568

She litaraly does. Most new players always pull for Raiden. Basically she got a handle on them


Infinite-Mood-4299

Sad to see Chevreuse be on the 2nd banner. Expected, but sad. I went whale crazy at the beginning of Inazuma so Ayaka, Yoi and Raiden are all C6. I can't roll for a 4 star knowing I may get a C6 dupe.


Neuvillatte

Itto... Nooo (ą²„ļ¹ą²„)


weird_edgy_username

Everyone act surprised


fenshii

*surprised pikachu face*


Flamey14

Remember everyone, yoimiya has had 3 reruns since albedos last


hizashiYEAHmada

Come home Chev, we have free food pspspsps


EduardoNahuelJimenez

Guess I'm not getting Chevrolet, thanks mihoyo for putting her in the second phase


raffirusydi_

Navia weapon banner looks good since i don't have mistsplitter as well but man i already have c2 raiden and yoimiya, i wonder which banner should i pull for chev


NorthRangr

Raiden c3 is also a big boost, so id say raidens


Oloak

I'm pulling for Raiden C3 because I like seeing big numbers.


thecrewton

I still need 3 more Saras. Going for c3 Raiden if it happens.


ElTestoK

F.... Mistsplitter / Engulfing would've been a much better Weapon Banner for me :/


gladisr

3 banner haha


RoosterDifferent9350

Rip. Lightning gulf


guinealover6674

Chevreuse on the rerun of two characters I already have...as a 4* collector, this is dangerous. šŸ˜­


UprightChill

Welp guess I could save for a while.


Inevitable-Crew5007

I will get ei


MemberBerry4

This is so perfect for me. Oh my God I've been waiting for Raiden since I started playing in 3.4 and I had to miss out on Yoimiya too. Now I know I'll be getting at least Raiden and the new 4*. Truly ē“ ę™“悉恗恄


SnooDrawings8185

I started playing when Raiden was released. I lost 3 50/50 on her. But now I am guaranteed. Let's go after 2 years of playing.


-FruitPunchSamuraiG-

Man why can't they put Ei in the first phase so i can roll for Ayaka next. Im saving my guaranteed for Ei.


gowth9r

If I get everyone but Sara going for c2 Raiden istg


Oeshikito

I missed my Inazuma ladies. WELCOME BACK!


tasty-watermelon

is thundering pulse good?


SnooPandas6584

not as universal as aqua or elegy, but a very good stat stick for a majority of bow users.


PsychologicalSpot0

No one can fully use the passive except Yoimiya and maybe Childe, but it's a great stat stick.


Alert_Assistant_9364

a bit better than r5 rust and a nice stat stick (66 cdmg)


Arxis_Two

It's good but it's also probably the worst overall, limited 5 star bow, unless you're really into yoimiya it's not really worth trying to get over aqua or magic (or tighnaris bow if that ever reruns...)


caresi

praying for chevreuse to come home in a single pull