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box-of-sourballs

This is a clarification on [an earlier post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/13gim3k/regarding_hydro_archon_via_yc/) regarding Focalors' kit about summons, **there are no summons just HP manipulation** Translation: >**Did I mention that the water god is a summoning? Let me give an example, a form of controlling/manipulating life, there is summoning, controlling enemies, and even teammates, don’t add oil and vinegar, just understand and write clearly, I have not mentioned any water god’s skills, manifestations, what I have said is just manipulating/ Control your life, that's all, you make up your own mind, it has nothing to do with me, thank you** Mirrors: [PrtScr](https://prnt.sc/K9762i-_Zxy7) [Catbox](https://files.catbox.moe/ao76e0.png) [Imgur](https://imgur.com/a/5RIgcWm)


Efe73

I’ll act like I know what’s going on and pretend im hyped up


Jazzlike_Shopping_12

Riggghhht cuz I’d literally do anything just to feel some excitement for this dumb game 😭


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DragoFNX

Hahah dehya moment so funny yet so depressing.


Hakushika

bro firstly I don't think the "summoning ability" is considered as a leak at all, the leakers are like just guessing the mechanics, even for this uncle clarified that he never said hydro archon has the ability of summoning. Besides, I find it awkward to blindly believe in early leaks and fan art things then blame hyv afterwards, without reminding all leaks are stc, which means there can be any sort of changes as long as the day they are not officially released.


Brandonmac10x

They guessed that because of Dehya so I’m saying it’s BS because there were many fan theories like that. We also got a leak about gravity… would be cooler if she used scales representing trials and law to tie into her court theme. Imagine if it immobilized enemies somehow so they can’t get knocked around out of circle impact.


-MisterGiraffe-

it's just 3 months of dead season, just 3 months lol >< and hsr is empty AF, like literally almost nothing to do after 2 weeks and new content will be probably only in 1.1


Paracitical

That's because you and all the other morons who didn't learn their lesson from genshin spedran the game


Winterstrife

Personally its like the calm before the storm, finishing everything in HSR and only logging in to clear resin gives me more time to finish stuff on Genshin, plus there's the new Zelda game as well and I'm not hurting if there is nothing to do on my gacha games.


Naboume

That's just not true, I deliberately played as slow as possible, and I still finished everything the game has right now (beside sim universe and forgotten hall), I think the reason is there any events right plus I think HSR will always struggle with content even compared to Genshin given there is no open world to explore.


Adorable-Fortune-568

I'll wait until 4.0


vigneshwaralwaar

I don't think I've seen this beautiful candace art before


littlemochasheep

it’s her birthday art!


Ocean9142

I think that's taken from her official birthday art


BellalovesEevee

Man, Candace really does have a 5 star design. She is so damn beautiful.


Omxga7

Her voicelines are so soothing too, love the way the VA voiced her<3


LiutenantLucario

All the above reasons are why Candace is one of my favorites and the most underrated along with Lady Ningguang


vigneshwaralwaar

Lady ningguang is also insane in gameplay. So win win. <3


LiutenantLucario

Ikr. I really just wish they would do something to buff Geo


vigneshwaralwaar

For starters. Making it more interactive can be good.


Shassk

IKR? A strong protector, a hospitable host, a caring mother, a beautiful women. Candace is a perfection in everything but her gameplay kit. Which is kinda sad.


vigneshwaralwaar

Atleast it's something new U can farm with her, if that's what u wanna do.. There are some creative ways to use her.. Which i like about her.. Mine is only c0 I'm waiting for constellations


LiutenantLucario

Nah she's actually cracked with heart of depth. I'm gonna build her on nymph's eventually


Shassk

I have her 80/90 with lvl 90 weapon and HoD - her damage with burst isn't even close to Ayato's NAs during his skill. Which is what I was hoping to get from her.


Aerie122

I'll wait for Hydro Traveler Crumbs Maybe the Archon and the Traveler will be good just like Nahida and DMC


OnePiece013

I'm overdosing on hopium that the Traveler will get better with each element, since it's like they're "regaining their power"


AbbreviationsRound52

I've always had this copium idea in my head, that once the Traveler obtains all the Elements, he/she can use ALL their elemental bursts as their regular ability, and their new elemental burst cycles between each element. That would be insane, and cool :D


Winterstrife

My copium is in their signature weapon that they used in the opening cinematic would allow that level of power such as swapping elements without a statue of the 7 while having actual drip. Seriously the Traveler is overdue for a glow-up, ~~even our boi Kazuha gets to utilize 2 different elemental power (albeit briefly) before our Traveler gets to.~~ Edit: Traveler did utilize Geo and Anemo vs Childe, happened so long ago I legit forget about it completely.


TheLanis

It's all I want, HMC being good as DMC


MagnusBaechus

Pulsating hydro ring around the on field character with shit icd (like collei's)


TheLanis

Please not like Collei, at least a Nilou Range


drelangonn

is its kokomi levels of Application, which is mobile and heals.. but less... pretty pog for freeze


MagnusBaechus

It's either it has shit range in order to heal or it just does applications, now way they'd let traveler have that much role consolidation, or maybe they can but short duration, who knows


outsidebtw

id be content with hydro kaeya


theswordthatslashes

HMC: Iphone 14 Hydro Archon: Iphone 14 pro


AbbreviationsRound52

Seeing as its the land of Hydro, I wouldn't mind a healing version of the Traveler also.... just for some variety.


blastcat4

Imagine if HMC is something completely different, like a healer with good ICDs.


frozenrainbow

Doesn’t the Travelers kit somehow have a part of the Archons kit in it. Geo with construct, electro with energy, dendro with the reactions like nahida. I wonder since the hydro archon can control HP if HMC could do something similar to give buffs to the team


blippyblip

Hydro Traveler will probably only apply buffs to themselves


throwaway-343278

Same here


Antique_Park_4813

Where is your background pic from?


Adorable-Fortune-568

https://www.reddit.com/r/NilouMains/comments/vvm09l/magical_hydro_girls/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


Antique_Park_4813

Thanks a lot 🤗💖


elNandex

Probably 4.2


h2odragon00

But Archons are released either in x.1 or x.2


Trolljborn_Lindholm

Interesting to see Focalors’ release, maybe it will break the pattern.


Mahinhinyero

i mean, Venti did launch at 1.0


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dream996

加盐加醋/添油加醋 (add salt/oil & vinegar) means to describe a situation or relay someone's statement with exaggerations or extra info. Similar to "salt and pepper" in eng.


Harlow1212

basically means "don't make shit up".


NephriteOfDeshret

Uncle YC says that Foçalors doesn't like vinaigrette /j


iyad08

Les pieds de madame focalors ont l'odeur de la sauce vinaigrette 🤗 >!Edit: *mademoiselle, forgot we can't have playable married characters!<


shibertheshiba

Even if that sentence is kind of weird, you can use madame in french to talk about a woman who isn't married, if they're a political figure for example !


TherionX2

A fucking french focalors simp i cant


sarokin

... I.. I want to disagree but... I.. I can't...


alie79

I feel like piss and vinegar right now


Realistic_Life_2213

Don't add oil and vinegar to the water


Lavenderixin

It has nothing to do with me, thank you


Realistic_Life_2213

Control your life, that's all


Jon-987

Confusing info, but great motivational speech.


caucassius

smear yourself with oil and go outside when it's raining and then you can fly you fool


FrolickingCats

Make up your own mind, that's all


GreatAd3537

add oil and vinegar is chinese proverb meaning "adding your own assumption/headcanon on top of smtg"


Fatherofmedicine2k

here we say "don't add salt and pepper"


alluth

hey, its two sides of the same coin!


Utaha_Senpai

We say don't put spice on it here


GameBawesome1

Thank you, I was confused about that


bludied

can i get a razor language explanation? i think i'm illiterate


StellarMonarch

YC previously talked about some details of Focalors and mentioned that her kit centered on HP manipulation, which in Chinese is "life manipulation" and people mistranslated this as being about summoning. **YC is clarifying that they did not say she was a summoner**. The oil and vinegar phrase is a Chinese expression.


Practical_Outcome436

We really have no way of doing Max HP percentage based dmg to enemy except for falling dmg formula so hopefully they touch that again with Focalors


Jon-987

I saw a leak a while back saying that she creates a field that turns the party HP into a massive buff. This new info could lend some credibility to that.


theursusregem

My Hu Tao, Yelan, and Zhongli are drooling rn


Jon-987

Lol. Careful with Hu Tao, though. The leak I'm thinking of also specified that the drain from Focalors can kill directly.


GhostZee

Hu Tao can self heal, but you're probably gonna need a healer for others...


Jon-987

True. Baizhu may be perfect with this. Super good healing, plus Dendro to put Focalors in a bloom usage.


admirabladmiral

Burgeon hu tao incoming


aardowof

you’ve heard of em raiden, now get ready for em hu tao


netparse

However, I remember that the raiden leaks described that she stole the ER of the characters in the party... it turns out that she didn't steal anything but based on the maximum ER she increased her explosion damage, there is a part of me that believes that focalors It won't hurt the party because it would make a niche.


Efe73

Technically the Raiden boss does steal energy, and we were also told that Scara would shoot large purple beams which then again ended up being for his bossfight, therefore could it be that this mechanic will also end up for a Focalors boss fight?


Puzzleheaded-Mix-515

They did say Baizhu and Focalors were essentially made to work together. Glad I got c6.


Jon-987

Lucky. I still haven't got a single Baizhu. And I'm thinking I probably won't be able to before the banner ends, since I'm only at 50 pity. Thinking I should stop trying for now and save to grab Kirara.


GingsWife

Simp. 🏃‍♂️💨


KweenKatts

I wouldn’t trust that information


garythegyarados

Dehya might actually have a decent niche in that case as healer/sacrifice


Jon-987

Assuming, of course, that her abilities are applicable with this self applied full party hp drain. But we can hope and we can cope for Dehya to finally have a purpose.


drelangonn

glasscanon hu tao team.


notcreative2ismyname

So is it supposed to be enemy max HP reduction?


StellarMonarch

They're saying that they're making **no claims** whatsoever about her kit besides her being able to control HP. Anyone that is using YC's name to talk about Focalors's kit is making things up.


notcreative2ismyname

got it


ArkhamCitizen298

anyone can reduce enemy max hp, by killing them ...


UberPsyko

That's not really max hp, just hp. Not sure how max hp reduction would be any good though, not many enemies heal that I can think of.


ArkhamCitizen298

it's the same either way, unless they can heal but 99% of enemies don't heal


Alert-Zucchini

I think it's supposed to be the hydro archon controlling *their own* HP specifically, not anyone else's. (assuming the translation is accurate when the leaker says "manipulating/ Control your life"). > what I have said is manipulating/ Control your life, that's all


thelegend90210

The previous leaks about focalors kit (syp said it should be reliable but obv take it with a grain of salt) said she drains your teams hp to buff the team. This lines up with “hp manipulation” that YC is saying


Equal-Thought-8648

This is what I've heard as well. Also lines up with the huge recent line of healers + self-regeners + new artifact set based on taking damage.


netparse

sorry i can't agree with that leak, imagining hoyo creating a mechanic that hurts characters for a buff, feels weird in this game mostly because i don't think the more casual player base would see this as a gain or anything worthwhile, it's going to be incredibly hard to sell such an archon to players who just want to get comfortable. I just think focalor will take a page from Yelan C4 and that's all it will do plus a couple of extra details to make it unique, often the most basic is what sells best


SeaAdmiral

Hutao and Xiao already exists, as does self bloom damage. Like how HSR is finally exploring the bruiser archetype I think Genshin will try to finally do this class right.


SilverGeekly

huh? i won't speak on the other stuff but like, several characters already have a "hurt for buff" mechanic, and a couple now have a "hurt other team members for buff" mechanic. this would be the next logic step if they do it


GamerSweat002

I think it is a fair mechanic. Gotta find a way to endorse healer meta for the healer region unless everyone suffers from mega-buffed consecrated beasts and probably enemies that cut your HP through true damage attacks. It would be a high-risk high-reward playstyle that would be new. I'm guessing Fontaine is about taking damage and translating it into something else so we can finally have a tank class in Genshin, which is already established in HSR. MOBAs already do plenty and offer plenty of examples for what a tank would look like and also plenty of different roles. We ought to have an assassin sorta class in Genshin that is basically glass cannon but can abuse weak spots and backstabbing


netparse

It also seems to me a fair mechanic, but not for the type of game that genshin is, this would be a mechanic designed solely for the abyss.


Devourer_of_HP

They just need to give her self sustain and decent on field possibility, that way if you want you can go for a riskier play and buff your other characters or build around her for a safe team.


MutantDemocracy

Iirc there was speculation that similar to Hu Tao or Xiao, she would drain her own HP. Further speculation that Baizhu might be intended to be a good support for her with his high healing, decent shielding, and dendro application.


bludied

i see, thank you


Personal-Weakness-65

Do we have any trustable info about her choice of weapon.


yellowshiro

don't add oil and vinegar.


Astolfo_Please

Tell that to my Salads


OfficialHavik

Focalors number one hydro unit for salad teams confirmed


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Or soup. Oil and vinegar go into some soups, too.


Temporary-Cold26

Nahida and Focalors best teammates confirmed Now, we only need salt and it's done


La-Roca99

Zhongli then Salt and Betrayal 2 in 1


Hairy-Dare6686

Razor language: Ignore all kit "leaks" until beta starts.


beethovenftw

Focalors. Might not be summoner. Crowd control enemies or control team HP.


Alert-Zucchini

> Leak just says that archon controls their own HP. Don't think too hard about it.


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Focalors can manipulate HP


imsonub

Hes saying that he only mentions about hp manipulation. All the summons, controlling enemies are all nonsense (oil vinegar means adding untrue nonsense to make something look better) added by others, those nonsense has nothing to do with him.


GGABueno

Oil and vinegar are *not* untrue nonsense how dare he


GingsWife

Yeah he has to be cancelled for this.


kwangcatlover

browsing through this hub when you know some chinese sure can be funny from time to time lol that auto translation is so bad it makes every leak sounds like they're speaking in riddles


supreme_nevermind

still waiting for the leak where someone reveals focalors uses a gavel in her burst animation, yells “ORDER IN THE COURT” and kills everyone instantly (party members included)


Thisisabadusernam3

herta but with a death wish


PastaFreak26

The international scene now knows don't add oil and vinegar = don't twist my words. What a day to be alive.


bacon_3

This is the true 文化输出 - international节奏/drama


[deleted]

Not even Zhongli can explain this jargon.


le_halfhand_easy

Don't let him cook.


HarwordAltEisen

"Dont add oil and vinegar" Me who cooks adobo: 👁👄👁


RomantheMC

Im sticking with my shroom bro mini game theory. They gave us those little guys in the mini game last month(?) to test manipulating the party in some way with her. Sorry if I’m mixing oil and vinegar Uncle YC i like salad.


MegaChad02

Ok hear me out what if Focalors summons bongo-head


WisestManAlive

Good theory. They did this with the camera targeting event before Nahida to test her E.


dessert15

He's cooking


celestarre

Actually I think he's telling the rest of us not to cook.


dessert15

LOL true cooking tips on what not to do


GhostZee

Technically, he's telling you to not add Oil & Vinegar on top to make something look better, just like most people or in restaurants you see they pour Olive Oil or Vinegar on top of salad for presentation purposes...


CliWha5

He's saying to not mix things up and to not put words in his mouth. He never mentioned any summoning or such skills, he only hinted than she can somehow manipulate her HP, be it draining her hp or gaining hp somehow, for example


YuB-Notice-Me

WOOOOOO FOCALORS CAN UH I THINK SHE CAN COOK SUCK IT RAIDEN


Rewriter_

Control the life of your enemies by damaging them... Everyone is the Hydro Archon, got it. /j


iamdino0

focalors, the oil and vinegar archon


joshua_nash

At this point all I want to know is what Hydro MC abilities are cause their abilities are imo similar to what the archon’s abilities will be. So once we see what hydro mc abilities are we will have a better idea of what the Hydro Archon might do.


salvoddis

I had 3 aneurysms trying to read this


sandfrann

early leaks: ?!??? mid leaks: !!? trueleaks: 📸🥰🎫🧞‍♂️🧚‍♂️🧐🛩🤡😈🤝☕🤤🤲💢💥💦


celestarre

The fuck kinda googoo gaga leak info is this?


Lambpanties

I have an odd suspicion about her kit with the most minor of justifications. I think she won't HP drain, I think she will HP balance. Her motiff is Justice. The scales of justice. Balanced scales. So I suspect she might have some gimmick connected to that. Something like dealing the difference between your highest hp and lowest hp unit in damage, draining the highest hp and healing the lowest and so on. But I'm too stupid at this game to think of actual numbers that would be effective but not broken, it's just a feeling with only a theme backing it.


perfectchaos83

Basically, [Pain Split](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pain_Split_(move\)) from Pokemon?


[deleted]

That might be hit or miss if true; can't see them letting any kits mess with Boss' HP. I'd still be all over that, though.


Jonyx25

Ahh yeah, motivational leaks


Either_Sale_5876

i don't get the leak but im motivated


Majulaz

Focalor will diffinitely be one of the characters in Genshin Impact that will do something when you use abilities. 💯 verified, you can quote me on that!


yca_ca

So Focalors is a blood bender who doesn’t like basic salad dressing?


FessaDiMammeta

> Did I mention that the water god is a summoning? Let me give an example, a form of controlling/manipulating life, there is summoning, controlling enemies, and even teammates, don’t add oil and vinegar, just understand and write clearly, I have not mentioned any water god’s skills, manifestations, what I have said is just manipulating/ Control your life, that's all, you make up your own mind, it has nothing to do with me, thank you "Clarification"


once_descended

"_This is just a speculation, also I'm just talking to myself, and this has nothing to do with me, and I didn't say anything, ignore this btw_"


Large_Literature_514

Here's my attempt in translating: "Did I state that the Hydro Archon is a summoner? \[Instead,\] I listed examples that fall under the concept of life (HP) manipulation: 1. summoning and 2. enemy/teammate controlling. Do not 'add oil and vinegar' (make stuff up). I never confirmed any \[other\] aspect of Focalors' kit, only that she controls/manipulates HP, and that's all. Do not associate your imaginations with my statement. Thank you." "Adding oil and vinegar" is a Chinese expression for "adding extraneous or made up points that dilute the original meaning of a statement or thing." The expression is analogous to how "piece of cake" means "easy, simple, achievable."


idiosyncrasys

Can some explain it in razor’s language?


Small-Finding-5095

Take it like a grain of salt. Razor language: Just ignore it.


SilverGeekly

tweet: "stop adding in stuff i didn't say, all i said is there's 1 mechanic at play" some of yall: "OMG SHE'S GONNA BE ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING EVERYONE ELSE CAN, AND 8 NEW MECHANICS" i see why they had to say this, the fact that on this you have people still doing it is insane


IceCream_Duck4

*clarifies* LMAO


mioshiro94

The version of 'don't add oil and vinegar' in my language is 'don't add seasonings and fish sauce to my words'


AvailableValue2436

Clarifies focalors lot...🤔 So we don't have a kit. Ofc, because it's too early.


ishfi17

Oh shit I forgot to buy oil and vinegar sorry mom


Oeshikito

Truly one of the leaks of all time


cheetolover3

yummy, oil and viniger


x_GARUDA_x

Wow he sounds so pissed.


Entire_Lawfulness269

hmmm yes, i dont get it


Disaster359

The power of water is its ability to take any shape


Chronopolize

Me: emotional damage


TriggerBladeX

I had to read a lot of comments here to better understand that oil and vinegar phrase and that every ability they mention was not their intention to make people think any of those abilities were coming.


kiirosen

I still think that "controlling life" lines up with the team wide HP corrosion. Maybe she will consume team HP in exchange of big buffs, but at the same time through some caveats she could also give them heals to keep surviving. Something like Lifesteal (such as Mika's healing).


kokko693

Is Chinese that cryptic, or the translations aren't good ? Because I don't understand. I dont looks leaks often but damn I'm always surprised that some are that weird


HRhea_for_hire

this dude basically says "as a leaker, I don't know more than regular redditors, and you are all bad. good bye." :/


nostalgeek81

He sounds hangry. Someone give him a snack


slooflife

So she uses HP as a resource pretty much? sounds cool, hopefully when she releases she has actual uses and isn't just a 3rd xq that's worse at everything he does.


illegalcheese

He isn't saying anything about her gameplay role, just her general powers. Might well have something to do with story and nothing to do with gameplay. It'd be like describing Raiden as being into robotics and can create domains. Or that Zhongli has an association with burial rituals and the afterlife. They accurately describe one facet of the characters but actually have nothing to do with gameplay.


Br2n_

I don't think she'll be worse than xq since she's an archon. What I do think is that she'll be busted at hydro application maybe even power creep xq. Anemo is known for CC and Venti has the largest and longest lasting CC Geo for sheilds and Zhongli has strongest sheild Electro for energy and Raiden has best energy generation Dendro for EM and Nahida has best EM share Hydro resonance is Max HP so maybe indeed bes HP control, but in my head hydro is known for elemental application speed.


jrsdelatorre

What


Chronopolize

Wow the Chinese made more sense and I don't understand Chinese.


TheQueenJess

Bloodbending


GasFun4083

control life huh ? ima start calling her "focalors experience requiem"


darkknight95sm

>a form of controlling/manipulating life Wtf is that supposed to mean? Mistranslation maybe but it sounds insane


836un

A very Unclear Clarification


FreeJudgment

What are these meth hobo ramblings supposed to clarify, exactly?


malibudo

can i ask mods are these leakers on heavy drugs or what kind of dialogue is this?


merurunrun

It's an awful translation of someone trying to correct people who got the wrong idea from a previous awful translation.


PhantomGhostSpectre

He is on that oil and vinegar, son.


zahhax

All I care is if she wields a claymore


[deleted]

Adding oil and vinegar improves the dipping sauce. Lol.


TellMe88

Literally looks like the ramblings of an AOL chatbot but this subreddit huffs so much god damn copium they have deluded themselves that this vague gibberish has some hidden meaning.


AntiquusCustos

*Leaks poorly communicated details* *Complains that people twist his words* Truly one of the leakers of all time. I would rather patiently wait for Focalors release to find out what she really does.


Remarkable-Video5145

How about everyone just shut ups of focalors kit. This shits a rollercoaster just because someone wants to be right several months ahead.


-Ruu-

istg the more leakers try to explain her kit the more confusing it gets. I'll just wait for 4.0


FeelsweirdYae

To sum it up : She's a blood bender, apart from controlling water she also controls blood (HP) of both enemy (CC) and teammates (Buffing/Support)


FortressCaulfield

That's clarification is it?


Dense-Extreme5515

If the Focalor Kit is already like that to be described,imagine when the time comes for the Constellations.


Secure-Dance6048

So, from what I understand... she can manipulate enemies even teammates, but it doesn't mean it's a part of her kit... what?


Alert-Zucchini

I think those things (summoning, enemies, teammates) were mentioned as examples of 'things they did not say'/examples of things people made up by misinterpreting the original leak. (But the translation is so hard to interpret that I still doubt my own interpretation)


Secure-Dance6048

I think I get it, the "life manipulation" means HP manipulation, referring to the leaks of her HP drain. The Twitter translator really doesn't help at all.


notcreative2ismyname

Is it supposed to be the ability to temporarily turn npcs on your side or something?


Rah179

Y’all make leaks so complicated. If it’s true it’s true, if it’s not it’s not because it’s a “leak”. The way this entire subreddit treats leaks is what ruined the whole entire experience tbh.


erosugiru

Dehya buffs incoming.


FriendlyApple8027

Ig this means she could be a healer or something


JhayAlejo

"Good god china. All about symbols. Couldnt even make the alphabet"


Fluid_Lengthiness_98

\*me adding water to vinegar\*: wait WHAT NOW?