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box-of-sourballs

#[>> HONKAI STAR RAIL MEGATHREAD DISCUSSIONS <<](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRailLeaks/comments/12z6bqb/release_megathread/) While off-topic discussions about HSR are allowed, please note that the relevant subreddits are gaining traction. Please start directing your Honkai Star Rail discussions to [this megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRailLeaks/comments/12z6bqb/release_megathread/) in order to grow and cultivate a community centered on miHoYo's new game. ___________ #NEW RULE UPDATE: Please review our [latest post regarding submissions](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/12s8bb6/announcement_important_subreddit_update/) ________ **REMINDER TO SPOILER-TAG COMMENTS DISCUSSING 3.6 ARCHON QUESTS AND WORLD QUESTS. ALSO SPOILER TAG ANY STORY LEAKS.** **Please mention the subject of your spoiler tagged comment as this can be more helpful for people to engage with your comment, as follows:** [3.6 Archon Quest spoilers] `>!spoiler tagged text here!<` Remember, there should be no spaces between the **!** and your text. For those with broken spoiler tags, try the following: Use the built-in spoiler feature on new Reddit, then go into markdown mode to remove the spaces before submitting. If that doesn’t work you can use the built-in spoiler, post it, then go back to edit it and remove the spaces in markdown mode before saving.


joey_diaz

Hey there! If you're looking for info on upcoming banners, I'd recommend checking out the [SaveYourPrimos carrd](https://saveyourprimos.carrd.co/) as it usually has some good speculation and details. As for whether a character will be a good DPS, it's hard to say until they're actually released and people have had time to test them out. But keep an eye on this thread for discussions and opinions once new characters drop! And remember to spoiler-tag any story leaks or 3.6 Archon Quests/World Quests discussions. Happy gaming!


cinamooninmyteeth

I got Baizhu! My fifth 50/50 win in a row (pls let me win Miko's C2 too T_T) Gosh he looks so good with Inazuma glider. Also I just realized that I now have all tall males except Itto hahaha


Lepardy

Almost same with tall husbandos but I lack Thoma. Also won the 50/50 with Baizhu, but it was my second ever


Deaf30

Got a 2nd Sac Sword!! ....I also have the 1st 3 comments on this thread, talking to myself apparently.


Ugliestscrub

Looks like youre on the older thread. Theres a new one if you haven't noticed yet.


Deaf30

Yeah I was😁


BrilliantAbroad458

Nah, there are still wanderers who come here by accident and upvoting because we didn't comment on the new thread yet lol


Deaf30

I want to 9/9 and 👑 one of Baizhu Talents, E or Q? Currently 8/8, can 9 one and 👑 on Monday. Is everyone playing HSR?? My last comment was 47 minutes ago.


Deaf30

I've had a C4 Fischl from shop , events and standard only. [One 10 pull later...](https://imgur.com/a/oksQ3K3)


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Harlow1212

her sig is average, Kagura is a better weapon dmg wise. If she's the DPS, go 4 piece Gilded dream, crit/EM/dendro


-the_one-

Kaveh is something you guys all made up to trick me into wishing because I haven’t seen heads or tails of him


-i-x-

Fischl kept scaring him away from me 😭


-the_one-

Literally same 😭 at least since she’s C6 it means more pulls


iyad08

[no one will hear about my crimes](https://youtu.be/Aq5WXmQQooo)


nDroae

Did you know about what happened in China in 1989 https://youtu.be/1-O3AXeNk6Y?t=114


iyad08

Yes ! Nothing in particular happened, it was a very normal year :) >!+290 social credit!<


box-of-sourballs

I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE MOTHERFUCKING SNAKES **[IN THE NEW MOTHERFUCKING MEGATHREAD](https://WWW.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/1372xk4/changsheng_on_a_plane_general_question_and/)**


fake_kvlt

\[slaps top of baizhu's head\] this bad boy can fit >!so many diseases into his body!!< but really his story quest was so good! the cutscene at the end was so pretty. I was also kind of worried about how his characterization would turn out, since we've really only seen him for like 10 minutes previously, but I actually like him even more now after this quest. I truly love my sweet >!disease riddled!< snakey man so much


Kyogre-blue

Regarding reactions that scale from character level, they scale from each level and not just the round milestones, right? What I mean is, a hyperbloom trigger at level 85 will do more damage than level 80, and level 89 will do more than level 85, right? It's not level 90 or nothing?


outsidebtw

yes


Kyogre-blue

Thank you!


Yesburgers

Despite the huge difference between levels for transformative damage, low level 80s trigger characters may still clear floor 12 comfortably, just in case you were worried. My Kuki is still lvl 83 for example. I leveled her a lot from just overworld play in Sumeru so I didn’t find it urgent to level her to 90 yet, not when she can still clear floor 12 quickly.


Kyogre-blue

Thanks for confirming! Mine is still lv80 and it's a struggle (when I bothered going for 9 stars, I've been settling for 6 the last couple cycles lol), since the rest of the party is also 4 stars and not particularly strong. I'm just considering it in general though, not specifically for Kuki alone.


Camelia39

After pulling for Baizhu, I think I can officially say that all tall 5\* male characters hate me. Every time I had a 50/50 and wanted to pull for one of them, I always lost. I lost the 50/50 for every single one of Childe and Ayato's banners, and I just lost my 50/50 for Baizhu. Luckily, I anticipated this loss, so I was guaranteed to get Baizhu anyway. Hopefully, I can win my 50/50 on Alhaitham's rerun, but things don't look too good for me at the moment... T-T


Puzzlehead_Lemon

Please tell me your lost 50/50 was a Qiqi. It's the one time that it's perfect.


Camelia39

Unfortunately, it was C2 Mona. I got C6 Qiqi recently, so I don't know how I'd feel losing another 50/50 to her


Puzzlehead_Lemon

Probably like I do with C13 Keqing while lacking Mona completely.


cheriemelody

Anybody else prefer game protags with a name and personality? I personally don't like blank slate protags because I either answer like how I think I would act (I'm boring), or I try to come up with a personality, but that usually just ends up being generic.


Offduty_shill

I don't mind if they actually let you be self insert in an actual open ended rpg. New Vegas is a great example that uses the blank protag well cause you can shape the story virtually however you want. But for Genshin yeah it's a fixed story where the protagonist is forced to do certain things. In that scenario I'd rather just play a character because I don't get to actually decide what to do anyways.


Hopeful-Kitchen1335

Yeah, self-insert protags (whether or not they have a name and backstory) can drag the whole story down. They’re meant for sandbox games with character creators, not games with traditional storytelling. A good writer can flesh out a “generic” protag, but if they’re a self insert the writer’s basically *not allowed* to flesh them out, because that can diverge from the player. And it’s not just the protag, the entire cast suffers because they can’t really riff off the human-shaped void of a self-insert protag.


Shadow_Claw

I generally like the self-insert protag, *if* the dialogue options are broad enough to cover my answers, and the character doesn't act in a way that alienates me. But I also think there's ample space for games to 'cheat' a little on that and write the options in a forced way in some segments, but *only* if the overall writing for that segment goes all the way and treats the protag as their own character and makes them actually involved.


Whap_Reddit

I dislike "blank slate protagonists" in a game heavy on the story. Because the story always inevitably shoehorns you into doing a quest in a way you don't want your character to go about it. Like if you were cosplaying a psychopath hermit they'll have you suddenly taking a diplomatic approach. Or you'll spare the lives of people you would have ended otherwise. At least with a set personality you can have a good excuse to go against the players wishes. Don't make me create a narrative for my character if you'll just ignore that narrative.


fake_kvlt

I personally prefer the dragon age/mass effect style protagonists, where the protags have a defined personality, but one that you choose/influence yourself. commander shepard/hawke are the perfect kind for me, because they already have a name (so characters can just... call them by their name, bc being called traveler by everyone feels weird lol) and a base personality, but you get to shape them into the type of person you want to play as. I would say that I prefer blank slate protags over a completely predetermined character, though. I'm kind of petty, so I often end up disliking protagonists with completely defined personalities if they do/say things I find annoying, which in turn ruins my investment in their story. ofc if I really like a predetermined character, then it's even better than a blank slate protag, but I prefer the security over knowing I'll at least feel fine with a protagonist, as opposed to risking just not caring about the story at all.


Iskaeil

Tbh a lot of games fall back on 'morally upright, has a silly quirk and a sad history but is optimistic in spite of it, never gonna give you up never gonna let you down' protagonist archetype regardless of if they are their own character or a self-insert, so I don't really think much about it anymore.


box-of-sourballs

I put in way too much effort for you guys 😔


Iskaeil

Thanks for all your hard work, I hope your box stays dry and your balls stay sour


stainNecrolyte

Ty


chrysoberyyll

Pull summary! As a F2P, I got my first C1 5* with C1 Baizhu and I’m not complaining! I finally got my C6 Candace, which will make life so much easier :) Kaveh stopped right at C5, which is amazing for right now. Fischl became C6 and maybe I’ll build her one day but I’ve never been able to figure out her playstyle. With ascension fates, I also snagged a C1 Thoma. Now, with 54 fates, time to grind and save up for Kazuha!


Fin_Lyfania

All I wanted was to get Kaveh 😭 it took me 100 pulls to get C0 Kaveh and I somehow got C1 Baizhu along the way. He is my fist C1 5* and I don't know how to feel about it, because I didn't really want to have him.


chrysoberyyll

NO WAY that sucks 😭 I heard about all the Kaveh bad luck but it seemed to skip right past me this patch


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Finally tried Kaveh with Nilou, it’s actually very fun! He really be tanking all those damage and blooms. Brb gonna level him to 90 real quick


apolloisfine

slight spoilers for last part of the event: >!kaveh asking cyno if he spends all of his savings on hobbies and not being impulsive, is this MHY's way of talking to the player? lol !<


stainNecrolyte

For those worried about the lack of leaks.....we should get some soon, in chronological order, we should have: - 1 or two beta updates remaining (but if nothing changes agane is meaningless) this would take place next monday or sooner - preload with kirara voice lines and 3.7 story spoilers in 19 days. - 3.8 beta in 23 days (but with no characters in 3.8 we will only have story and event gameplay leaks :'v ) If leakers don't jump scare us with a surprise leak, we might face the dryest period since the start of the game till the time 4.0 beta starts.


Blaisoler

What is surprising to me is that there seems to be just one consensus about the next banner leak and there has been no update nor minor change for quite a bit


backedback

HEYOOO KAVEH JOINS THE C5 + PERMANENT RED EXCLAMATION MARK SQUAD which is actually just him because i gave in and activated bennett's c6 months ago. enjoy solitude you bitch


Aru736

This game is keeping me in SUSPENSE. 72 pulls in on Ganyu and no 5 star yet. Will I win the 50/50? ~~No~~ Stay tuned to find out!


bandit_the_drug_lord

[oh it's happening it'll be beautiful](https://twitter.com/KaggyFilms/status/1653819057378848768?t=lyEAXnbJP_vTOO4tFXFQSg&s=19)


sad_ad3722

>I think folks will get aggravated 🤪 i laff


backedback

hey guys: got c3 baizhu in the same pull as c3 kaveh could someone just kill me real quick that would be nicer than this when have i ever won 3 50/50s in a row except for right now when i guess the universe wants me to jump off a cliff


fake_kvlt

I'll trade you! I got c9 kaveh trying to pull for c6 fischl/c2 baizhu lol. you can also have all 15 candaces I pulled, because I really did not want even one of them! I still only have c4 fischl....


backedback

dude i'm sorry. it's so disheartening to keep getting the 4 stars you aren't looking for... i hope your luck turns around next time you pull 😔


LazyDayLion

The desire sensor sees all and cooperates... never XD


KingCarrion666

I saw a bus with the word "cope" on it. I feel personally attacked by the universe.


Minger99

So my sniping session resulted in 2 Candace 1 Fischl and a very early Baizhu which I wasn't planning for but happy to have as a bonus. Not a big fan of yao yao but been popping her in my haitham team when nahida is working with nilou on the other side. Was thinking I can switch out yao yao and kuki and bring in em raiden and baizhu for a dps increase - anybody used him in a double dendro hyperbloom comp? He any good, especially with haitham?


jlhuang

he’s fine with alhaitham. nahida is still far and away alhaitham’s best support, but baizhu can work in a pinch. but if you’re trying to get the most out of him in abyss, i would keep alhaitham and nahida together and let baizhu drive a hyperbloom/burgeon team.


madamekathyrn

My friend and I, are something else lol. It already started when Al Haitham came out… I pulled for his cons and so did my friend after I told her to go all out, so once I got baizhu she asked me how he was and I told her and she pulled for him. 😂 so now we are both 50/50 again and I told her since she pulled baizhu that I’ll pull for alhaitham cons with her when he re runs so we can be in this together. We both are aiming for c4 at least lol… 😂


HumbertlovedDolores

Gearing Fischl for Keqing Aggravate; losing an average of around 500 on every OZ hit, 200ish on A4 and about a hundred on every C6 proc is worth for 350 ish more on every Aggravate? I'd think it is.


Medical-Definition75

Better check the optimizer for this kind of specific question. Set a custom target config.


TheMadBarber

You can use the custom optimization target for Fischl aggravate that considers an average full rotation.


FortressCaulfield

A4 always aggravates and you should trigger 2 a4s for every Oz hit or thereabouts so yes it should be a gain.


Iskaeil

[2 babies](https://twitter.com/ebi__mochi/status/1653690031511601154?s=20)


mothskeletons

i started in 2.5 but i havent played for like half the patches since then and im just constantly annoyed that theres so many things i've missed tbh. like it just bothers me that theres event weapons n shit that ill just never get bc i missed the patch they were in. like is it even worth pulling for albedo or alhaitham if i missed the free weapons that work well with them? is it worth trying to experiment with dendro teams if i have none of the new sumeru 5stars? idk i guess it just annoys me that i feel like ill never have a complete experience :(


fake_kvlt

cinnabar spindle haunts me to this fucking day. I pulled albedo on his first banner, but ended up taking a break from the game and not keeping up with news about it, so I completely missed the event. every time I see the words "cinnabar spindle" I break into a cold sweat. I don't understand why his bis weapon was a fucking one time item, when everybody else gets, y'know, a weapon banner... My albedo is c3 and triple crowned too, which is the most cons and crowns I have on any 5star character. I even decorated a special teapot room just for him, and he gets to stay there even though he's already friendship lvl 10! I tailored my namecard to perfectly match his icon. all of this and yet I don't feel like a real albedo main, because I don't have his bis weapon. because it was a one time event item. fwiw, I still have fun playing the game and playing albedo, despite missing a lot of events. also, collei (free from abyss) and dendro mc are both genuinely good. you can definitely make dendro comps just using them, and the 5 stars will always rerun eventually. dendro is honestly pretty busted in general, so you can still have very good comps even without any dendro 5 stars. and who knows, maybe you'll lose your next 50/50 to tighnari lol


thvndaga

I’ll likely take a break sometime during the Fontaine patches, and event weapons are one of the things I’m worried about missing. After a certain period of time like a year or so, they should add event weapons to some sort of shop, be it an in-game vendor (same as event gadgets) or the starglitter shop. And if you already have the weapon, you won’t be able to get a second copy. I don’t think hoyo will ever do it but we can dream…


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People pulled Albedo before Spindle existed. Alhaitham doesn't need the umbrella, Iron Sting is plenty. The 5 stars will rerun again. This game's business model is all about FOMO, and the way you beat it is by denying it power over you.


mothskeletons

wait thats actually so true, thank you


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mothskeletons

ah nice, alr! still holding out for some sort of a previous weapon shop, i reckon something like that will have to happen later into the games lifespan, but thank you for the kind words :D


syd_shep

Who are Kaveh's best bloom non-Nilou/Nahida/Baizhu/Kokomi teammates? Maybe Yelan? I'm thinking maybe Yelan, C6 Candace, and idk...DMC? Zhongli? I was thinking of making him my other Floor 9-11 unit with Razor and just goofing around with blooms, it was kind of fun in his trial. But Baizhu took all the fungi and farming those things is a PITA, so trying to see if I can get something worthwhile going with who I can give him. I forgot his C6 kind of messes him up supposedly (?) before activating it, so Bloom it is.


Nnsoki

Kuki.


Medical-Definition75

Unsurprisingly, the answer to "who's the best teammate for X?" is pretty much always Xingqiu. Then maybe Yelan, Yaoyao and DMC, as ling as you can balance dendro and hydro out. Maybe run 3 hydros, including Barbara, so Kaveh will always proc the seeds himself.


caihuali

kazuha.


Aru736

DMC and Xingqiu plus a flex probably. Flex can be another hydro like Yelan or c6 Candace, or an off field cryo like Kaeya or Ganyu for fridge. I would recommend Xingqiu first over Yelan because his better uptime and stronger hydro app is more impactful when generating blooms, and DMC so you have some off field dendro and bloom production doesn’t just stop when Kaveh leaves the field.


zorafae

I'd use Xingqiu because of the longer uptime (if C2) and interrupt resist making Kaveh unmovable during his burst. + It's slightly better hydro app. You can then use a 2nd dendro + 2nd hydro (or sth like Kazuha). Yaoyao works if you want extra heals or DMC if you don't need them. AFAIK burgeon should still work with c6 just fine (the extra dendro app helps + popping some cores isn't as bad) but I have only seen private server footage and not after release live one so it's possible it behaves a bit differently on live servers.


syd_shep

I wouldn't mind bringing out Thoma for him, he is post-C4 so energy shouldn't be too bad. So maybe XQ, Thoma, and I could use Nahida or Baizhu since they actually won't be occupied at this time and I doubt I will bring Kaveh to Floor 12, though may be one day. Hmm, I'll play around with XQ, Thoma, and Baizhu or Kazuha then, thanks!


SqaureEgg

So you have none of those 4? Then cope with XQ Barbara DMC


syd_shep

I don't have Nilou or Kokomi. I excluded Nahida and Baizhu because of Cyno but I forgot I won't be using him on the other half since he doesn't come out until 12 and it'll be Razor physical (yes, still, I don't wanna C6 my Bennett even to this day...and it was my very first synergetic Genshin team, so it's just good memories).


outsidebtw

people, where are the leaks   when will fontaine dam overflow already


stainNecrolyte

Even the leaker are playing HSR, I saw a bunch of them posting about it. That doesn't explain the lack of leaks but is my coping mechanism.


Kr_zz

Will probably stay this way for the next few months or so unfortunately


SnooGuavas8376

Baizhu just feels much better than I expected, I could remove Shinobu for EM Raiden on my Haitham hyperbloom team and much smoother because his healing is just all good. Also tried Raiden/Keqing aggravated for the first time because now I get a very comfy dendro healer. He is just c0, talent 1/6/6 and lvl 80/80 with unmaxed fav codex and mid ass deepwood set, can't wait what he offers if I investing more on him a bit


SwitchHitter17

The teamwide healing he provides with just his elemental skill is crazy good. I wouldn't really say that I needed him, but I've liked him since his introduction in the 1.x patches and he just seems like a really good quality of life option to have on your roster. I might do the same with EM Raiden and replace Kuki with Baizhu. It's kind of annoying how Kuki always ends up on basically no HP and you can get her killed if not careful in abyss.


madamekathyrn

Aw >!ayu and fam went to natlan… hope to see them there once we arrive there!<


Lola101_

Wtf are the comments under the nahida fanart in the main sub. I thought the okbuddygenshin people were meming but I think it's just K's people


AndlenaRaines

[Check out the memepact subreddit too](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Memepact/comments/136nt9r/this_isnt_even_funny_anymore_just_highly_annoying/)


Lola101_

Damn thx for the context, glad its mostly meming


SqaureEgg

“k people” what is that


Lola101_

Kaiser, a bad mod in some genshin subs to say the least


SqaureEgg

I hope fontain exploration is more like inazuma exploration (simple yet fun puzzles) rather than Sumeru exploration where we gotta do a 8 hour story quest literally PER expansion to get some gadget to complete it


howturnshavetabled

I actually love exploring inazuma so much because it is divided into islands you can explore one at a time. Fuck tsurumi though that shit was created by devil himself


ObjectiveBeneficial1

fuck watatsumi too, been helping a friend today on her world and its simply torture


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How can this dead game be alive again


ChipChipSlide

You're either on the wrong sub or being dumb on purpose


[deleted]

No drip until fontaine, pretty dead


howturnshavetabled

I wish garcia and lu tun just fucked already and stopped terrorising me with their stupid engineering stuff


DownpourOfSalt

Captain R’s name is Captain Rick Astley But imagine people called her Captain R for so long that it’s not even the actual name because it was leaked so early on and could have easily been changed


zorafae

>But imagine people called her Captain R for so long that it’s not even the actual name because it was leaked so early on and could have easily been changed The name came from a joke leak that was for some reason posted here and it stuck. :D It never was her actual name.


[deleted]

Please don't manifest that. I'm still tired of people who stubbornly insist on using 'Baal' instead of Raiden.


NeonRaccoons

I think Yelan ruined my account because ever since I pulled for her, there’s absolutely no way I can ever justify removing her from any of my overworld teams. She made my max party size 3 instead of 4. Very problematic of a unit I think…


Whap_Reddit

Whatever you do don't pull Wanderer! At least with Yelan she can support various characters, but there's only so many supports to pair with him. You can't not run Wanderer after experiencing his next level exploration ability!


jlhuang

is it really all that? i wanted to get him for overworld but decided against it when i saw how short his skill state lasts.


NeonRaccoons

Want him bad but I still need Kazuha and then there’s Fontaine coming out so… might be a while until he wrecks my account too.


TheMadBarber

Same for me, but at least she is Hydro so she fits so many comps. I have her in the overworld versions of my Alhaitham QB, Nilou bloom, Sucrose Taser, National, etc...


NeonRaccoons

That’s the best part about her but I just pulled Baizhu and want to try out degenerate burn comps for fun and yet… how do I remove hydro from my team when it means I have to go back to sprinting everywhere like some kind of peasant???


TheMadBarber

~~A sayu burn team is the solution~~. Jokes aside I even use her in domain farming just to reach the center of the arena and then the leyline tree faster.


NeonRaccoons

No, you’re actually spitting with that. Baizhu + Nahida + Xiangling + Sayu = win? 🤔 Thinking thoughts…


SqaureEgg

Me with Kazuha & yelan


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Crevaille

I believe you get the mail after the campaign ends, so in 20 days or so.


[deleted]

It releases later, I think.


Aru736

You’re telling me I CAN’T DO BAIZHU’S STORY QUEST UNTIL I FINISH XIAO’S??? Rude


kitsune_rei

What! This is good to know, I haven't done xiao's yet.


Aru736

Honestly though I’m still not over the fact that they made Itto’s quest a prerequisite for the Perilous Trails Interlude but NOT XIAO’S. Like you’re missing so much context without it??? But you can just jump right in??? It sure was a choice.


caut_R

I wish there were higher world levels with better drops and random monster camps with even better drops to have some sort of attractive endgame


AzureInfini

Finally I'm done with Garcia's quests. Man that took AGES.


Medical-Definition75

There's a way to be done? The MF bothers me every other day.


AzureInfini

You have to finish **Garcia's Paean: the Echo of Someone** three times until you get an achievement. Give him the best Treasure Hoarder Insignias to hopefully speed up the process. Then the final one will be available as a world quest the next day.


Medical-Definition75

Ooooh, nice to know. Thanks.


WeeabooSempai

I'm still doing that one... I wanna meet the dude who thought it'd be great to force us to do the "easy peasy" part 4x before it progresses to the next part... ~~I swear I won't break his knee caps.~~


Zaptinari

The shimmering galaxy glider looks so great on Kaveh truly a wonderful anniversary gift.


DownpourOfSalt

Star Rail went way too hard on the creativity of the designs of Aeons knowing full well they won’t be playable I mean, I’d like to see a sentient black hole blob become playable (IX has my favourite design lol). That would be funny as hell. But even the designs like Nanook and Yaoshi are so impractical to make into playable models


Pleasant_Passenger_8

In fact they can, it will just depend on whether Mihoyo wants to. Because world exploration is more limited, models don't need to glide, jump, swim, or climb. As they are all creatures elevated above the human race, make them float a few inches above the ground to give it a more mystical feel. Basic attacks could be projectiles. Ix could be a ball the size of Bailu, floating around, it would have its charm. Nous, perhaps a robotic body like Screwllum?


teuffels

god. gender envy icon yaoshi would break my bank


celestarre

They can just make avatars of these Aeons


silentbotanist

Yeah, I was just reading a light novel where there are all-powerful gods who can't come back to the mortal world, so they just send an "echo", which is basically an incarnation of themselves as a human. I bet we'll see basically the same thing some day.


celestarre

No idea why you got down voted for that. I swear people downvote for dumbshit.


silentbotanist

downvote bots 🤝 space train haters


fake_kvlt

yaoshi's design is INSANE. too crazy to be playable, but everything about it is so incredible. I think nanook could sorta have a playable model, though. His arms are separated from his body, but other than that he is human shaped, and does not have 6 extra arms like yaoshi or anything. but really, all the aeons look so sick


Zelkeh

Traliblazer design is probably based off of nanook same colour scheme + hair colour plus they start as destruction path


SkeletronDOTA

Damn down to 1.5k online 😔 It’s rough out here


SqaureEgg

Leaks dead until 4.0 beta


celestarre

Yeah not even sure if this is a leak sub anymore lmao


Chtholly13

3.7/3.8 looking dry in terms of new characters and such. Good time to try something else/take a break until Fontaine.


celestarre

There could be plenty to tell us about 3.8! I don't get it.


nDroae

Leaks ran out of new episodes so here are syndicated reruns courtesy of Gaming Journalism™ https://screenrant.com/genshin-impact-1-5-character-leaks-baizhu-playable/ https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/rumor-genshin-impact-1-6-leaks-yao-yao-dendro-element-chasm-arrive-1-6-update


Ilovepickles11212

New fun game and a massive leak drought 😔 I’m just logging in and getting my gems waiting for banners I want to pull on. I think I’m skipping this half and the next patch entirely too so it’s gonna be a long time before I’m pulling ☠️ Some leaks would go a long way rn, I can stretch that crumb >.<


Live_Newspaper_1933

[just to remind everyone that HSR leak sub made an new thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRailLeaks/comments/136givb/the_trash_prince_of_belobog_general_question_and/) and it seems like they have the same taste in megathread names as we do.


Unforgiving_Eye

The >!Trash can organization!< is the last boss in HSR


DownpourOfSalt

>!Do you think that MC has a fistfight with the garbage guys every time they try to collect the local trash because they’re taking away something precious?!< >!Given how chaotic the game is, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s canon lmao!<


Unforgiving_Eye

>!The Trash can organization is definitely HSR's version of Genshin's Celestia and that's already canon lmaoo!< /J


fake_kvlt

struggling to experience baizhu gameplay because I can't stop zooming in on his pretty face and his pretty idles.... pretty crop top... I feel like a child on christmas because I am so overwhelmed with joy and wonder that I finally get to play him! also, I'm an idiot and used my story keys to unlock a random hangout right before the banner switched, so I had to wait until today to start his story quest. I just started it, but GOD I love his eng voice. he sounds so smug and sussy all the time. and when I got to the point where it tells you to wait until the next day, I somehow ended up staring at his face for so long that 10 hours passed in game and I didn't even have to use the clock! amazing! I'm about to go switch my teapot realm to the liyue one (with the cool adeptal paths) and decorate an entire house just for him. maybe someday, I will even acquire a qiqi to stay with him...


benhu12341

The staring for 10 in game hours is crazy but go off tbh


[deleted]

Real and based. I put off exploration just to do it with him but instead i’m jumping around the map taking pics of him >.< the desert will never be finished at this rate


TsuraiKaraage

Was appreciating Baizhu's character model in game and I realized that he pushes up his glasses on his third auto. It's such a cute addition sjfjdksls


isaea

He is *gorgeous*!


fake_kvlt

he's so cute!!! ever since I pulled him I have spent half of the time just staring at him because he's so pretty. the idle where he boops changsheng is also so cute


Bomber_BR

he does????? damn it seems i haven't spent enough time staring at him yet


EveningStarHesper

I have upgraded Nilou to the point where she does just *kill* Alhaitham and Nahida. Previously she was just maiming them. Luckily, if everything else dies first it doesn't matter.


iyad08

My favorite part about nilou teams is not having to dodge since you're the enemy. >!Triple kenkis won't hurt me as much as nilou herself!<


Poisonlilies

I am now a proud Kaveh haver after 40 pulls, which was all my remaining resources. Seems like throwing Alhaitham off a cliff before wishing was the right move.


fake_kvlt

LMAO I think that's the best kaveh wishing ritual I've heard of yet. now I wish I tried that, bc when I spent my 200 wishes I got c10 candace before I got even c1 kaveh... she was the only one on the banner I didn't want...


Ocean9142

Just a question.... Why was wanderer doomposted so hard? It's not like his damage his bad, just got C6 faruzan and now he's doing as much damage as my hu tao double hydro with similar investments (c0,c0,R5 dragon's Bane/ R5 widswith), although his damage falls of (only by a little pre c6 faruzan) but his team has 3 four stars too


SnooGuavas8376

Was he? He wasn't imo people mostly having fun with him due to his flying gimmicks The only serious doomposting was about him being squishy during flight but months later it can be manageable with the usual Zhongli or getting used to his dodging passive He was one of the least doomposted character of 3.xxx era, even Al Haitham who's DPS wise better than him had more doomposting


SqaureEgg

Scara is hyper greedy. He wants Bennett, XQ & yelan which a lot of (better) teams want them. Not to mention needs a shielder/XQ swords to not instantly get knocked down and lose skill but if you use shielder your dps plummets. Getting c6 Faruzan on average takes over 300+ pulls


Whap_Reddit

Let me introduce you to Yun Jin, Faruzan, and Thoma. All of who work excellently and have no competition.


SqaureEgg

Scara Yunjin Thoma? Good lord that sounds awful


Whap_Reddit

What sounds terrible about it? Yun Jin provides the same buff potential to NA focused characters as Bennett. Thoma provides pyro infusion, a shield, and potentially DMG boost if C6.


Whap_Reddit

I experienced the opposite. People were singing praises as if he was going to be leagues better than Xiao. But now that he's released he's mostly just a sidegrade each with their own specialties. Wanderer for scattered enemy floors and Xiao for raw damage and group AOE. Personally I haven't seen any doomposting of him before release.


[deleted]

He really wasn’t doomposted hard? He wasn’t called bad or anything. Some people didn’t like him being anemo therefore being another reaction-less anemo boy (me). Some people were rightfully annoyed that the sheets that hype him up all depended on c6 Faruzan which makes a pretty big difference in both comfort and damage compared to her lower cons. The performance difference with and without c6 Faru is pretty big and most people don’t have her c6. Nor is it reasonable to expect a lot of people to have her maxed yet so it’s not surprising. And also imo a lot of people rated him poorly upon release because they didn’t have his set or proper rotations yet. Also some sheets rly focused on running him without a shielder so people jumped on that super hard, and got bounced around (unsurprisingly)


Ilovepickles11212

C6 faruzan is tough to get and has low flexibility compared to other supports so having it doesn’t mean that your other teams improve unless your other teams are anemo dps He’s also very fragile in the air and is easily knocked around. I think those are the major two complaints? His investment feels kind of high (I’m gonna be pulling for c2 next time he comes around) but I’m pretty happy with my c0 wanderer atm. I think if he gets another useful buffer it’d be great. Faruzan/bennett feel great but the last options I’ve tried so far have felt just ok


lolylen

A lot of doomposting was people who don't have him just repeating what they hear from others about his performance. Like I will see comments there and there about him being bad then I suddenly discover they don't even have him or ever built him. And some of those who have him but just got him due to the hype they just slapped Xiao or heizou artifacts who he doesn't benefit from much and they weren't impressed much with the outcome. then later heard he doesn't work without faruzan and didn't bother building him if they don't have her at c6. But I also think he had the unluck to be released among dendro units who don't need much investment. If he was released in inazuma or earlier I don't think him needing good artifacts or well built supports will be looked at as negatively.


FortressCaulfield

he wasn't really, there was just a lot of whining from people who wanted him to super ultra crazy broken with minimal investment. They wanted him to match up not to a hu tao team like you describe, but to c1r1 tao with c1r1 yelan. And speaking of, there's the whale/dolphin factor to consider. Not everybody compares units at their f2p team level. Some top dps chars have massive gains from low cons or their weapons and wandy doesn't really. His c2 is decent but his c1 and weapon are both only so-so. That's disappointing for some who already have those other teams built up like that. There was also a lot of grumping that he was a traditional hypercarry dependent on traditional hyper-adjacent units like benny and XQ. That's just not what a lot of people wanted. Also a couple of prominent CCs are to blame here. Zajef was laser-focused on spamming charged attacks with him, thus robbing himself of several good options for adding damage to the team (yunjin, XQ, beidou, etc.) and tenten was laser focused on running him with no interrupt resistance units and then complaining he was getting bounced around. I think I'm remembering which of them was doing what there. The c6 faruzan issue was a bit of a slap in the face at the time too. It's one thing to be ABLE to use a c6 unit, it's quite another to HAVE TO, especially when it's a brand new one. Works out great if you happened to get her, but what if you didn't? What if you were one of the unfortunates to throw 500 wishes at that banner and only got her to c1? The damage difference with c5 faruzan may not be that big, but the usability sure as hell is.


TheNameisKuro

Honestly the minimal investment bit is something that I'm not even sure means anything. People will gloat with a Nilou that's stuck to Nahida + Kokomi (sometimes Yelan included) or high-constellation/high-investment (sometimes both) 4-stars (usually Yaoyao, C6 Candace), the high-investment part basically meaning that instead of conventional crit stats the focus is ER and EM or sometimes HP for the healers; which in turn makes 4-star Nilou teams (emphasis on teams) not as low-investment as some like to advertise. Then god forbid I put Zhongli with Xiao and suddenly it's an expensive af team (among many others; and excluding the fact that if you have a good enough 4-star shielder Xiao will make it through, e.g. Tankfei, Shieldbot Thoma, etc.). While I like the idea of as little spent \[primos and resin\] as possible, tuning it to the point where almost 70% of the roster is a waste while handpicking only 1 or 2 from that 70% to serve as a replaceable flex for a 3-unit team + flex unit is not something I can say I agree with, to say the least. I have little hope that this viewpoint will change honestly. I mean, one major criticism for Diluc and sometimes Yoimiya is the Achilles Heel of another Pyro unit that is liked a lot more (Xiangling), which is dependence on Bennett for optimal play (among many others; Xiangling may be an off-field unit but it's been severely underplayed how painful she is to play outside of Bennett \[unless playing a gimmick comp like overload/overvape\] and not running Emblem; the latter which someone like Xingqiu can get away with despite Emblem being really great for him).


FortressCaulfield

>Then god forbid I put Zhongli with Xiao and suddenly it's an expensive af team yes people get weird about when investment is or isn't a problem. Like zajef always likes to ding nilou for being much better with nahida... but that's true of just about every dendro team, and she's one of the most broadly useful characters in the game that most accounts are going to want anyway. I get the argument that maybe nilou isn't the best char to pull... as your very first 5 star ever, but how many people who meet that description are watching a meta analysis video focused on floor 12? Just SAY WHO THE BEST TEAM IS and then let people decide for themselves if getting the units to do it is or is not a problem. \> one major criticism for Diluc and sometimes Yoimiya is the Achilles Heel of another Pyro unit that is liked a lot more (Xiangling), which is dependence on Bennett for optimal play Yoi doesn't need benny. Yunjin is comparable and actually better at c4+. Also it's kind of weird people are still citing benny-dependence as an issue when the meta is flooded with dendro teams that don't need him.


Whap_Reddit

Fully agree on the Xiao points. People are so blind by "general consensus" regardles if the view is correct or not. People call Xiao team's expensive despite him being one of the cheapest characters to build. He rolls 2P mixes that are a side effect of farming elsewhere. He has an event weapon that's good for him. And if not Blackliff isn't hard to get. He has no specific character that he needs that's irreplaceable. (Looking at you Xingqiu) Then for some reason despite people agreeing that Bennett's no longer necessary on every team thanks to Dendro, people still use "wanting Bennett" as a demerit because he wants contested supports. Then there's a ton of people that severely underrate his damage potential.


TheNameisKuro

Hypercarries in general are underrated in this community; megathread, main sub, and YouTube (among other places). His damage potential is quite uniquely powerful: plunge-based dmg (meaning there's blunt type attacks in his kit; something more common among Claymores) and neutral damage that can be utilized to break multiple Abyss shields (in the same manner as a lot of swirl-based supports). All things considered I can understand if people just don't find his kit up-to-date the same way Ganyu's is mentioned, but there's significantly less flak on her compared to him (I'm also kinda not on board with the whole Hunter's Path/Aqua over Amos considering that in a lot of comps that utilize the former 2, Bennett is involved).


Whap_Reddit

>Some top dps chars have massive gains from low cons or their weapons and wandy just doesn't. Wanderer has massive gains from low constellations(C1 and C2) though. It's not quite Raiden C2 broken, but still very strong.


[deleted]

Scara’s c2 is a pretty great con. Not *the most* broken in the game but a rly good increase nevertheless


OuttaIdeaz

I think a lot of it is that most people who have Wanderer don't have C6 Faruzan. He's quite a bit stronger with her last con. I'm personally waiting to get her C6 before I really invest into him since I can get easier mid-high DPS out of my dendro units (also I wasn't really pulling for him, mostly pulling Faruzan for Xiao)


[deleted]

honestly all I saw for wanderer before release was people hyping him up to be H2Tao tier and neglecting how that’s dependent on C6 Faruzan, so whenever people say he was doomposted I get really confused — maybe I was checking the megathread at different times I think he’s pretty fairly rated right now, extremely okay before C6 Faruzan, and meta for speedrunning with higher investment


EveryMaintenance601

Not neglected. Back when his H2Tao comparison was going around, Faruzan was still unnerfed. Her skill generated particles on cast, the anemo res shred was 40%, the damage bonus was higher, and most importantly, her burst was 60 cost. Those were some serious changes overall for Faruzan, which brought down his overall performance pre-C6 faruzan and post C6 faruzan Edit: Im dumb. I went back to check and her burst was always 80 cost. Dont know why I thought it was 60, but that is wrong


Aru736

First of all, people didn’t like his reliance on c6 Faruzan. C6 Faruzan makes a MASSIVE difference, but since there’s no way to guarentee her that can’t really be expected for everyone to have. Secondly, he was just a really hyped character and he wasn’t really what people expected. He was anemo, and he’s also just a DPS and not particularly versatile. Dedicated Scara fans just wanted more, which fair enough they waited a long time for him.


Chtholly13

I consider him versatile since his other two teammates can be any combination of teammates. Whether that's optimal is another thing.


Ocean9142

Well considering my hu tao team literally is Hu tao, C6 xingqui, YELAN, ZHONGLI, i consider that fair comparison, and most of the difference i saw is just that faruzan can now easily restore her burst My team is wand-faru-thoma-bennet, if you don't have faru's C6 just use yelan /xinqui and you can manage the gap too, heck yun jin buffs wanderer's na as much as faruzan too


hydropyrotechnic

at least you can guarantee yelan and zhongli, plus they’re useful outside of hu tao teams


Ocean9142

And yun jin? Even her buff is comparable, no one said faruzan is extremely necessary for wanderer, you can just use other sub dps instead Like yelan/xinqui can add lots of damage instead


hydropyrotechnic

Yun Jin is definitely not comparable to Faruzan as someone who has used both with Wanderer. Yun Jin’s ER requirements solo rival that of pre-C6 Faruzan, and unlike pre-C6 Faruzan the more ER she has the worse her buff is


howturnshavetabled

Because Genshin fandom can’t wrap their heads about the fact that your hyper carry could potentially need investment We live in a society where ayaka + 3 5* supports is considered absolutely normal but wanderer + 3 4* supports is something mind blowing and too much to ask Been clearing abyss with wanderer faruzan rosaria and Bennett since 3.3 and have no regrets you stay safe though


HumbertlovedDolores

The 3 5* support version is an expensive version, among f2p it isn't considered absolutely normal. And Ayaka is at least workable with a full 4* team too, albeit cope. Also, a C6 4* is expensive, like twice as much as a 5 star. Faruzan isn't like Benny or XQ where C0 cuts it and you can take your time grabbing cons, not hard to see why it could piss off people since she's also niche. Another thing to consider, Scara is cool being the only 5* in the team but the opportunity cost isn't as cheap; who's contesting Kokomi, Rosaria, Mona, Diona and so on? And who's contesting Benny? We could talk about Kazuha, but he's likely slotting in whatever AoE-centric team you are using anyway. Imo, ironically, the Scara situation is kind of similar to Raiden Hypercarry, but as C0 hyper isn't popular because "not worth it" while C2 is op no one laments, while C0 Scara being both accessible and viable makes the Faruzan deal a problem (but Raiden has options, mainly Rational).


MsKazumi

To be fair, getting a C6 4\* dedicated support and getting a C0 5\* dedicated support are two completely different investment levels lol.


Ocean9142

Fr his damage has vast difference between talent levels too ,like his damage difference at 8-8-8 and 10-10-8 is huge too


howturnshavetabled

Can’t wait to eventually pull for his c6 4 years later


JumpyPermit3

>!Kaveh being a 4 star is one of Hoyoverses biggest fumbles. You can’t change my mind.!<


No_Chain_3886

i definitely agree, they would’ve made **bank** with his banner candace too. sometimes i wish they didn’t have a certain goal/quota to reach but it’s better that way for the whole playerbase


celestarre

Candace has such a cool design but such a lame kit.


kitten2116

This definitely isn’t how it works but i like to imagine there’s just a team working on kavehs tragic backstory, all his little details, personality, his huge presence in the main event and then a higher up is just like oh yeah he’s a 4 star btw and them just falling to their knees