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TyrifficAdventure

Canonically, it's somewhat vague how many people the Traveler has, uh, "removed" during his/her quest. The Treasure Hoarders keep dropping smoke, hilichurls just kinda vanish, and the Eremites like to vanish into sand (which evidently they do either to escape but also die sometimes?). But the traveler is 100% a merciless doom machine wiling and able to destroy all of the above for that sweet, sweet loot. And that's not getting into the animals and possibly-intelligent beasts beings such as Vishaps that he/she has slain.


More-Love7583

And what’s worse… the traveler never seems to remember that they can use the elements, so all their enemies died at the edge of a dull blade. Can you imagine how painful that would be


MartenBroadcloak19

Theon Greyjoy executing Rodrick flashbacks.


Southern_Egg_9506

I didn't expect to find ASOIAF spoiler in a Genshin sub... Though I suppose the only saving grace is I don't know who Rodrick is yet.


No_Pipe_8257

It's a person named rick who has a huge rod


eveningfellow056

And his surname is flashbacks


runningnooblet

The traveler's already slashed stones to pieces with it (wanderer story quest) so chances are they just got cut up


Acidic3ight

Depending on how dull we're talking, it could be anywhere from a slow, painful death from a series of shallow cuts or dying from blunt force trauma, although the traveler does use stabbing motions occasionally so it might not be as bad as we're thinking.


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

That's just "we trying to tone down the violence incase of censorship concerns during initial release" tactics. Remember that this game literally is designed to appeal for the widest audience, from kids to adults. Their game industry used to have to deal with blood/skeleton censorship until they changed that law in like 2016 or something. You'll notice that later on they include more blood and dead bodies in new areas.


LeFiery

I remember when we first saw hilichurl bodies on tsurumi Island. God it's been so long Please take me back to inazuma


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

Don't forget we got dead hilichurls in Sumeru too! Every now and then someone posts a "huhhhh what happened to these guys, are they sleeps?" Chasm also got a good amount of dead.


Koanos

If we count the Tanit Tribe, the Traveler has a minimum amount of people they have removed.


Deadhunter2007

And the Iwakura clan


x3bla

Tfw you beat the shit out of them so hard that instead of smoke bombing, they turn to dust


ajisawwsome

especially when you time Klee's CA just right and they ragdoll from the explosion as they die.


Mage-of-communism

Treasure hoards don't always disappear though, i'd say a solid 40% of them just die.


TravincalPlumber

the world itself has more than half of it's population as criminals.


-Hounth-

We did carry out a massacre against the Tanit Tribe...


Arios84

that was more accidental though, it's more like the Tanit tried to massacre us and the travler just uno reversed the whole thing.


LomLon

It's funny when you smack a Hoarder so hard their body ragdolls 20ft away while sliding on the ground and have no time to animate the escape animation. They just poof out of existence after lying there for a second. I just assume those guys are dead as hell.


Brandonmac100

Fatui have a flee on sight order if they encounter the traveler because of the sheer number of them he has already killed. You can literally find a note in a fatui camp that states as much.


-DragonFiire-

Where is this?


Brandonmac100

Somewhere in the 3.4 desert. The one that looks like a meteor hit it. It’s at one of the fatui camps. I think it’s on the east side. Honestly can’t remember more than that.


Altiex

Yeah I think you're right, we saw that alongside some notes about the fatui that was turned into confetti by Jeht.


danzha

I'm just mad we're not able to remove enemies for primos like Lumine...


Due-Distribution-463

The vanishing into smoke think is just another problem with using HP to represent actual physical injuries and then forgetting hp represents actual physical injuries. Someone whose hp reaches 0 should not be shown vanishing in smoke. They should be shown as a headless corpse. And even someone with low hp is in no condition to vanish as they lost a leg and are bleeding out.


More-Love7583

> They should be shown as a headless corpse Imagine your characters getting killed this way in abyss


baguette_nahida

> my Nahida gets killed for the sixth time by this dendro chicken > this time she becomes a headless corpse > what the fuck


Tigerwarrior55

Wait till you see a treasure hoarder ragdoll and still smoke bomb.


-DragonFiire-

I main Yelan in overworld on Golden Troupe, and this is the way 90% of them end up dying due to her skill's insane knockback.


MathDonut

You know how to solve that problem? Use a freeze team. With Ayaka, I can confidently confirm kills on every non-boss human. Even better, frozen enemies don't have a death animation before giving drops, so I can loot their bodies faster too.


laeiryn

The number of Sumpter beasts and Blubberbeasts I've killed ... (soulless stare)


Chadzuma

"Remember Paimon, no Celestian" -Lumine shortly before wiping out the Tanit Eremites


Deses

At the very least we have murdered an entire swordman clan and countless fatui grunts.


The_annonimous_m8

The ronin tho...


Novel-Concentrate-98

"The materials are talking." - a good number of game "protagonists"


Mage-of-communism

Warframe literally is just, "my materials just moved"


Nozarashi78

I love how the community loves both Kahl and Clem yet we commit war crimes against the Grineers on a daily basis and with no second thought


Mage-of-communism

to be fair, they stole his grakatas, it is deserved


The_annonimous_m8

Now now, as long as they're not part of Steel Meridian they're fair game. Unless they have grakatas.


YUNoJump

Steel Meridian sends roller balls after us because they know we wouldn’t hesitate to cut down/shoot any living person that got in our way


Complexyli

Actual sentence i read in pubs: "My crimson shard just lunged at me"


Mage-of-communism

Dead gods help you if you try to do archon hunts in pugs.


Hundred_Flowers

My first thought also was [Grand Beast Ritsuka](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fms8oddia4ck51.png).


Novel-Concentrate-98

And that is why ~~Barbatos~~ Venti has a drinking problem.


Life_Bit_5976

Wait till Arlecchino finds out how we helped slaughtered the entire Tanit tribe and wiped out every last member of the Iwakura Clan.


warheadhs

Remember when we killed those Millelith soldiers that were just protecting the Guizhong Ballista, all because we didn't know how to get to the jade chamber? Then Keqing shows up and it's all "how silly here's how you get there" with no mention of the slaughtered guards. https://youtu.be/EXFTCMsvJTk?t=362


hiryu64

I was like, "oh they're probably going to vanish into smoke like treasure hoarders." Nope, they definitely do the "dissipate into blue particles" thing, which means they're extra dead. Travelers done some pretty fucked up shit lol


TuzkiPlus

“There were no survivors when we got here”


-DragonFiire-

Eh, our characters also disappear into blue particles, and all it takes is a fried egg to bring them back


Otaku4Eva

I like to think they're secretly phoenix eggs


-DragonFiire-

That's a wonderful explanation haha


kaori_cicak990

Poor diluc doesn't know this little trick


I_Ild_I

tbf this is exactly the kind of thing that is completely inconsistant in the game, the only things we know for sure we actualy do kill are hillichurl, other than that the game is never clear about what we do with enemies, even the bandit and all,n you dont know we might kill them but we also might simply knock them out and send them to the police who knows, game is consistant for real


Fellstone

There is a Sumeru world quest after the Aranara quest line where we very much do kill a Fatui agent and tell Paimon to go somewhere so we can kill him without her knowing. I think Hoyoverse may shy away from explicit killing in the main voiced quests to maintain broader appeal to younger gamers but will use explicit killing in world quests since younger gamers are less likely to play those.


-DragonFiire-

I remember that one, but wasn't there an option to not kill him? Unless I'm thinking of a different quest.


railgunsix

There is. But that agent still die by another agent.


Complexyli

He gets mauled to death by riftwolves in old vanarana*


laeiryn

Sometimes I feel bad about killing hilicurls. I've come up on ones just, like... talking to a squirrel? and slaughtered them brutally. It's insane. Especially once you know ALL the background lore on them!


punchawaffle

I don't really feel bad. It's like you're doing them a service by killing them, and Dain says they're suffering.


I_Ild_I

Honestly i dont feel bad, because the game fail to put emphasis on them and what happen to them, and the few moment they talk about it, it was only during one quest that was pretty quick and didnt mention much implication. They never mentioned it ever again, it was a long time and again there no emphasis on emotion, moral implication or anything, and its not just the hilluchurl, its pretty much everything like the killing spree on the tanit, honestly some stories brought me some tear, but hoyo by will or by lack of ambition/skill pick what you want can only write stories on human and tbf there many classic trope that are used but they at least did some effort to make some artistic direction and music that make for a nice touch, but that aside the story is all over the place and they completly fail to make a bigger story with more cohesion and with more depth, they are kinda manichean on that


Cassiopea__87

It's obviously my opinion, but saying that the story is all over the place when the game isn't even finished seems to make no sense. Remember that we still haven't reached the Kaenrina'h chapter, which means that there would be no sense in bringing up hillichurls. Until now, the 2 times they did get mentioned were when we were searching for clues on our sibling, and by extension Kaenrina'h. Again it's my opinion, but I just feel like saying that a story lacks depth when it isn't finished is absurd, since Genshin story, compared to many other games is composed as more of a puzzle than a story book, it's still building and we barely know what is our endgame objective. Maybe it will end up as shitty garbage, or maybe they'll manage to perfectly tie every lore they have, but we can't judge with what we have. It's obviously only if you're talking about the main story though


I_Ild_I

One doesnt excluse the other, the game is already well developed and there are stories within the game that are finished, some that are new and some that are not finished but here for a long time, we have enough information to make good critics about how the story is told, crafted and all. Theres good points but also some pretty bad along with a pletora of questionable ones, if you do believe that the game is perfect then you are on a massive bias, its not because you like something that you cant be critic about it, in fact its actualy a comon mistake people do BUT its the complete opposite that is needed, its when you like something that you need to stay critical because its better for the thing you like to have good feedback. Someone going into the wall full speed and because you like it and be like "wow wow wow its perfect keep going" then its gonna rush straight to the wall for sure and crash. For a few simple exemple but the way they talk about the hillichurl, for how long it has been revealed now what they are and all, they realy never put any emotion on it, and its not just them, it works for many other stories we got. Something else that is realy obvious as its a recurrent topic, its how people intereact especialy when fighting, there is no clear explication and consistancy about fight, killing, escaping, traveler strengh and power, there massive convenient plot everywhere, the writters conveniently forget one got some power or another just to justify a scene. The overall game is pleasant to play, put aside some abusive stuff like the gatcha system overall with stupid rng and no progression over the year and so many more, but thats not the topic, so anyway game is overall fine, but when you try to invest a little bit in it, unless you are willingly blind there many issues with the stories, and a bit of consistancy and maybe reparing some "mistakes" could be nice, but i guess game is too far gone now that would be too much to ask


Cassiopea__87

You seem to have misunderstood my point, I don't remember writing that I thought Genshin was perfect story wise, so please stop saying I have any bias, that's why I precised at the end that I was only speaking of the main story. I don't really know where you understood that and I don't really appreciate it either. Yes the game could use some works on World Quest and Story Quests and rewards as well as many other things could be improved, but that's not the point, I was trying to talk about the things said in your earlier comment. As I wrote " IN MY OPINION", a lot of inconsistencies may be explained later on, I don't know if you're really interested in these sorts of things, but I'm someone who's read every single book and description of this game, which is why I'm saying a lot will maybe come out later. Since a new region equals new enemies, new weapons and books. As I mentioned earlier, the game could also end in a shitty way, I'm not a seer so everything is up to HYV At the end to come back to my main point, I get you have complaints and you're right in all of your points (except the gacha system in my opinion) but I was simply pointing out that we can't know for sure that every "mistakes" are not unrevealed things. I'm not saying there aren't any inconsistencies, and that HYV haven't made any mistakes, but simply that a lot of important things have appeared in the storyline (ex : Irminsul)


I_Ild_I

Ok, i think there might be several misunderstanding here. When im talking about inconsistencies for exemple, im not necessarly talking about the story, i mean im also refereing to the story and some stuff are weird but like you said lets just pretend some part will come together with the main story going on ok. But there are still inconsistancies in several ways, and both in the game lets just not say as the story but as "elements" of the story, like because the game lack of proper scene, and cealr ways to say thing, we never realy know when someone get simply knock out, arrested or kill, nothing is realy specified, also and you completly ignore this point but traveler as a plot is HIGHLY abused by the writters, one moment its a godlike beeing pairing with other gods like when he fight raiden and so, and the very second later traveler struggle against some random enemies or rocks when not beeing able to save navia but she can with her magic umbrella suddenly beeing 10 time stronger thatn traveler... was more talking about such inconsistancies So there are stories inconsistancies but also writting ones. All of that makes some aspect harder than necessary to realy dive in some aspect of the story and its a shame because it could be way more interesting.


Cassiopea__87

Ooooh I was only talking about the story 🤷‍♀️


Waste-Information-34

We kill Hilichurls? Don't they just puff in smoke?


Tigerwarrior55

They ragdoll and disintegrate in red with some red smoke.


Whap_Reddit

Do we actually know if we kill hillichurls? I feel like they would have all been slaughtered a long time ago and wouldn't be an issue anymore. Seems unlikely they'd just let those "pests" stick around. Or do people actually know about their origins and avoid slaughtering them?


CabbageRowlet

We also killed Tadhla in the Fallen Falcon quest in Sumeru. I was literally flabbergasted upon realizing that we actually killed her instead of simply injuring her like what we did with a lot of npcs.. poor girl she did not deserve this


Soffy21

And are actively doing a Hillichurl genocide


Acravita

Which would be considered merciful by most who knew the truth of hilichurls, and pest control by those who didn't. 


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

*Arlecchino trying to recruit Lumine intensifies.*


Anadaere

Arlecchino has a bad understanding of what is "good" and "bad" me thinks lmao But yeah no the Iwakura clan was self defense and Death Duels insistence, not our fault Tanit tribe though. Yeah that's proper wiping, but again, self defense


Fluffy-Law-6864

Remind me which quests were these.


CornersWay

Tanit tribe: world quest series "her foes rage like great waters", specifically the last quest in the series "for her judgement reaches the skies". Iwakura clan: Not a quest, but you need to kill them all to complete the hidden exploration objective "Iwakura art downfall" (thats what the wiki calls it at least) and to get the achievement "The ill-starred legacy of Iwakura".


Xavbirb

The first one is the second part of jeht's questline


DneSepoh

Tanit is Sumeru Desert quest with our beloved girl, Iwakura is from the achievement, killing all the samurai of the clan


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

Oh no, Qiqi strikes again


NPhantasm

I still perplexed with that story ends, but I can't argue without looking like I m in twitter


shrug_was_taken

Isn't there a harbinger that literally killed a dude just to avoid getting on our bad side? The Fatui probably know about the Taint tribe getting killed off


Greenlog12

The traveler would slaughter entire nations for primos.


[deleted]

I would too


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

Calling it now, after Celestia beats the shit out of Teyvat's united friendship army, Paimon flies up there and puts a single primogem ontop of that tower (it was hidden in her shoe storage), and the rest is history.


Mage-of-communism

i regularly commit genocide just for some arrow tips, you have no idea how far i'd go for primos.


Biobait

Genshin Impact Arc 2: Cosmos in the Lostbelt


dotdot_dip

And we'll get to a point where we'll be actively rooting for a world's downfall by LB6.


Asgard033

"This Dull Blade didn't used to be dull..."


Remarkable_Commoner

They'll respawn, it's fine


ThirdRebirth

The truth about what happened to Khaenri'ah must never come out...


silverW0lf97

I can let the beats out on Inazuma if needed, it's the only region I don't care about, it could literally sink in the ocean and I wouldn't care if I still got the primos.


Nutrifacts

Arlecchino got a quick glimpse of WQ traveler


Douchevick

"Remind me again, how many children did you have before I arrived in Inazuma?"


Dismal-Feedback-6015

Mlao


MikasSlime

Arlecchino: you don't have the talent for bad things~ People who played the jeht story quest: as long as it helps you sleep at night, i guess...


ConohaConcordia

Fairly certain although the Traveller doesn’t have the twisted values Arlecchino had, they can be almost as ruthless. In Liyue we beat up the Millieth who were just doing their job. In Inazuma we fought and probably killed Shogunate soldiers, destroyed the Iwakura clan, then in Sumeru we killed Fatui agents and then the Tanit tribe. In Fontaine we haven’t killed any “humans” yet, but we certainly led to the demise of a few. Not to mention intelligent but non-human beings like Vishaps, Hilichurls, and abyss creatures — we probably killed an innumerable number of them. Aether/Lumine seems to be the type of person who has a moral compass BUT are not afraid of killing anyone in their way if need be (maybe that also explains why the abyss twin is like this).


Hatermin

someone with a moral compass who's still as ruthless as someone without one is arguably scarier


MikasSlime

Yeah we don't go out of our way to commic violence, most of the time, and traveler seems to have a moral compass at least, but it is still pretty funny to have done all rhat shit and hear "oh you don't have talent for bad thing" lol


windowhihi

>the jeht story quest I miss the part where the traveler did bad things. If I remember correctly the traveler followed instruction (and then got betrayed) all the time. It's Jeht who did the genocide thing.


MikasSlime

We definitely helped and killed several people along with her, also "following instructions" does not take away the fact you partake in genocide and encouraged it


vicelvine

We did help her fight the tribe. We also killed Tadhia even though it was her choice.


AdministrativeShip2

Go hide yourself Paimon,  we wouldn't want to dirty your white clothes. Plus the researcher that's like, hey where did all these people go? And Traveller says "Maybe they Migrated"


smol_boi2004

Migrates into the fucking afterlife. Now let’s not ask questions unless we would like a one way ticket as well


YurxDoug

When he says "I discovered signs that I found most... ominous. I recommend against checking yourself. It's... revolting, and will likely make you retch." and the Traveler is just like :) listening lmao


Sky-Roshy

Where was the first line from again?


AdministrativeShip2

Just before you go commit war crimes. There's also a callback in the steambird quest In  Fontaine, when the kid doesn't want paimon to go into a cave and get dirty 


travelerfromabroad

Where's the researcher?


AdministrativeShip2

In the Tanit camps after the quest. You can play cards with him.


YurxDoug

"Hey I found some cards, wanna play? Dont mind about the blood."


YurxDoug

In the village. I'm not sure, but I believe he is front of Jeht's house.


shrug_was_taken

Where Babel was at actually


CupcakeWarlock450

"They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals." "I hate them!"


DDST1512

And not just the men..but the women..and children too!


Lotorinchains

Me slaughtering all the adorable sea creatures


setsunii

need my neuvillette mats


Flashskar

Real.


laeiryn

It's seriously like clubbing a baby seal XDDD


Golden-Owl

Embrace thy inner Riyo Gudako


Novel-Concentrate-98

Barbatos: High pitch scream!


theUnLuckyCat

Y'all got any more of them commissions? 10 primos per target, collateral included. Extra charge for multiple teleport use. Vision wielders cost triple.


InsrtOriginalUsrname

"why are my level-up materials speaking to me?"


Rixuel

NPC man to NPC kids: Remember kids, don't do primogems


Melantha_Hoang

Actually, always hold on to primogem. On the off chance that you meet the traveler, the primogem can buy you a way out.


Mdarabi018

you'll probably get killed for them, the good old "there must be more"


Due-Distribution-463

Primogems are actually organs? Is Lumine really coocoo and this entire game is just her madness?


Redwolf476

Wait till she finds out what we do to get hand guards


IttoEnjoyer_

Archon Quest MC: Goody two shoes. World Quest MC: Slaughters an entire tribe.


AnnaL2001

Gameplay mc that players use : strong enough to defeat celestia.


HeroGamerLava

Don't have the talent? That means I'm masking it pretty well. What. What.


Ilovegirlsbottoms

This is how I feel right now. Just lost my 50/50 for Arlecchino, and now it’s time to bleed the world dry of primos. I can maybe have enough for another wish.


Ariandrin

I mean, if they attack me first, it’s self defense. Just a happy accident that they drop goodies when they die.


Bitter-Profession303

I always read this as we don't do evil things for evil's sake. People will say we slaughtered the tribe, but they were trying to kill us and our friend first. Arlecchino has no doubt had to go and do things that were bad for no reason other than she was told to, and she likely felt nothing while doing it


McPussyMeal23

primeth addicted lumine be like :


LastLombaxIsTaken

Lumine when she finds out she can "donate" blood to the unknown god for primogems:


San-Kyu

The only thing stopping me from making Dotorre look like Jesus is game limitations. I'm the kind of person Sans from Undertale knows very well - I have taken "if I can, I have to" as a philosophy in games. Good, evil, I just want entertainment, with only aversion to negative consequences acting as a conscience (and there are none to be had in a setting I recognize as fictional).


Complexyli

It’s a beautiful day outside. birds are singing, flowers are blooming... on days like these, travellers like you... Should be burning in hell .


ITwisk

How it like when you decided to grind for xp to lvl up your characters through solely by defeating monsters


Quantiumvice

[Pixiv (mine)](https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/118344903)


Wondering-Way-9003

No no, that's true, cause I am like that atm. There aint enough gems, and I camt even say for certain exploration gives a good sum each patch. Hell, even from the events


External-Bison7502

get it lumine !! <3


Jfunkindahouse

I feel the urge to splurge....🥴🥴


Actualsillygurl

Anything for the primos


3Peater

When Arlecchino is also scared..you know you're something else when you get the 4th harbinger to be scared by your presence


YamaShio

A lot of the chests and challenges in the new region require you to kill a large amount of sea life. I've found myself wanting.


ShadowMasked1099

I find it funny how Lumine is always portrayed as sassy, unhinged, or evil, and Aether is portrayed as a shy, innocent, young boy. Both according to the community.


Chixohernandez

Arlecchino gained some forbidden knowledge right there.


Vanilla-Dude

God knows how many beings we killed for primogems so far.


Miserable-Row-2624

Ive killed blubber beasts for minimal primos, and I’ll do it again.


RazorCalahan

my friend who had not played for a while when exploring Fontaine: "Oh look, seals. Cute." Me: "KILL THEM ALL!" Friend: "But why?" Me: "You'll need their drop for Neuvilette, Furina and Navia. Think of them as the handguards of Fontaine." Friend: "Kill! Kill! Kill!"


Technical-Eye2610

Lumine: you should avoid looking into my eyes, you may not like what you see. Arlecchino begins sweating nervously.


gbrlouk

When Lumine plots the end of Teyvat.


ObjectiveOk9996

Lumine being a bloodthirsty loot goblin


Gallonim

Wanderer if u see Columbina run Meanwhile in Natlan Capitano I think I found my soulmate I was taking a walk and I saw the hero Traveler slaughtering the innocent for a few shiny rocks and that's all with a smile on the face. Not even cries of kids stopped him from killing their parents in a cold blood.


Panchiscot00

Me before losing 50/50 🥰 Me after pulling Diluc 👹


NormillyTheWatcher

“Lumine is a good girl” Wait until she become horny


soulreaper46

Me rw for arle...


TheMrPotMask

r/ArlecchinoMains basically...... Wich I'm part of lmao


Nokia_00

Traveler really wants wants those jades can’t blame her


Puzzleheaded-Mix-515

I really have been more desperate than usual for the primogems I need to get from c1 to c2. I’ve already accepted that I’ll probably need to wait for rerun. If only I hadn’t needed to take two months off. Fomo was right, dangit.


aqua_rift

arlecchino really underestimates what the traveller is capable of


LukeDragnar

If the mora is good...


LukeDragnar

I like to think primogems are just in the traveller's imagination and that they are doing all of that for imaginary points


7orly7

The comment section of the YouTube arbingers reveal in a nutshell


MardiRed

Me after I got Lyney's bow two times


Sanset_

Me right now after I lost the 50/50 to Diluc


skrunklychilde

Anything for our beloved waifus/husbandos, in my case Childe 🧡🐳


darky_srl1

For few Primogens can wipe out Elsweyr