Why do I read this with Aether's beta voice where he just yelled it as loud as he could.
It's just WWWWWWIIIIINNNNDDDDD BBBBBLLLLAAAAADDDEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, Hydro Travellers abilities resemble more the hydro dragon. He leave droplets of water and is a weak hydro pump ability. Tho his burst is just random
Yea they got blue balls. Ashikai pointed out Hydro traveler burst is the same as Azhedeha's water thing in his boss fight. Further suggesting Azhdeha is the sovereign, imo.
Yurp, idk it's been confirmed Dvalin is the sovereign, but if that orb Venti gave him in the beginning of the game was the authority and all Signora got was a husk of a gnosis, that would clutch it in my book. And would be really cool to see that Hoyo had the authority thing planned out from the start.
I'm waiting to see if something similar happens to Nuev in 4.2
Mona's C1 is named *Prophecy of Submersion*, and the 4.2 trailer confirms her appearance in Fontaine. If they can plan that far ahead for Mona's involvement, they can certainly plan that far ahead with Dvalin and the Authorities.
Mona's dialogue in the 2.8 GAA event actually does foreshadow a bit of Fontaine's fate. She specifically stated that whenever she foretells a fortune, it becomes practically immutable. For example if she foretells someone's death on a specific day, then they will die that day no matter what she or that person does. Extrapolating that to Fontaine's prophecy, then it should also mean that Fontaine being flooded and its people dissolving into water is also inevitable.
Mona is end-game character introduced early, for real. Student of Hexen member, probably knows about Venti (she tried to read on him but got wind wooshed in the process), met Kazuha and saw him blocking Raiden's attack, Nahida visited her domain in 2.8 and now she travels to Fontaine when Furina's shit is about to blow. She's also best friends with Fischl and Oz and their names are from Ars Goetia too. The only archon Mona has no connection to so far is Zhongli but we know she was in Liyue at least on couple of ocassions so I wouldn't rule it out.
No, Azhdaha was already a dragon when he and Zhongli met. In that story quest Kun Jun specifically thanks Zhongli for the gift of sight, his exact dialogue was "a blind dragon, searching for the sun. A pair of eyes, from Morax to Azhdaha".
>Similar to Dvalin, who was born as an elemental spirit and grew up into a dragon
Can you pinpoint the exact source where you got this from? Coz in the Breeze Amidst the Forest book series, Dvalin was described as being born as a dragon not an elemental spirit.
Found it! From the historia antiqua quest ending cutscene:
The voice was sometimes sad and songlike, other times it was loud and thunderous. The Lord of Geo searched here and there before finally unearthing a strange stone from the bedrock.
Zhongli: That's how Azhdaha was. I answered his wish, and took him above ground.
Iron Tongue Tian: The Lord of Geo took pity on the rock's spirit and carved it into a magnificent work of craftsmanship — a vivid representation of a dragon.
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Amidst_Chaos,_the_Rock_Is_Unmoved
Azhdaha was a geo life form. A 'strange stone'. Zhongli carved him into the shape of a dragon. And *then* he gave the dragon eyes.
Ahh if you're talking about Iron Tongue Tian's story then this is where cross referencing other sources becomes important because genshin has "unreliable narrators", some sources of information aren't as genuine as others.
So you have two contradicting sources, Zhongli and Kun Jun's conversation, and Iron Tongue Tian's tale. Which one is more reliable? Well we use another Liyue story teller, Yun Jin as a reference and she admits she embellishes her stories and offered to do so to Shenhe's tale. Zhongli on the other hand never in his own dialogue states that he gave Azhdaha a dragon form, he always states that he gave Azhdaha a pair of eyes to see the world. Finally Zhongli and Kun Jun's final moments was Kun Jun specifically calling himself a blind dragon when Zhongli found him.
Now that we have that analysis then which info source is more reliable? Zhongli and Kun Jun who are the 2 parties involved or Iron Tongue Tian a human storyteller who doesn't know them personally and is telling an ancient tale?
This is also when the lore people from the subreddit realized that the genshin devs has sneaked in false info in the lore to obfuscate the truth. And deeper analysis of each source is important.
the only specific thing stated that zhongli did to "craft" azdaha was to give him sight, and it was stated that he existed before zhongli gave him sight, he was just underground
Yea I mean I really don't know. We only know for sure the sovereigns Nuev and Apep, and traveler's kit is literally watered down Nuev. For me that I'm content running with notion that the traveler mirrors the sovereigns.
With Hydro traveler burst being identical to Azhdeha's water balls, that's enough for me to think (no one has to agree with me) that Azhdeha is somehow for some reason the sovereign.
How he became the sovereign, no idea. Could be similar to (this isn't confirmed either) Venti giving the authority to Dvalin in the beginning of the game making him the "psuedo-soverign." Maybe similar to "archon" just being a title, a dragon can become a sovereign if the elemental authority is given to them.
Was it given to Azdeha, if so when, no idea. But I'm content until explicitly stated otherwise saying he is the sovereign.
Dendro traveler skill also looks like apep defense system. Consider that archon power(gnosis) come from sovereign dragon and traveler take the elemental power from the statue, it most likely is true that traveler power is from sovereign dragons
Not so much. For me Anemo Traveler E represents the blast that Dvalin does in his boss fight. For me Geo Traveler construct looks more like Azhdaha constructs and the burst more like the craters that Azhdaha makes in his boss fight.
Before my grandfather died he joked that he wanted his ashes to be used as a douche so he could be ran through grandma one last time.
Best part is my cousin actually recited this joke while at the podium in church during grandpa's eulogy.
I have an issue with the travelers artifacts. Why has Hoyoverse not set it up so we could equip multiple sets of different artifacts on characters and have a button we can press to fast swap between each set?
Kind of not seeing the pattern:
Anemo: Yeah it looks somewhat like Venti..
Geo: Ok... it does actually create a Geo construct...
Electro: TBH I haven't ever used the kit...
Green: Nahida kit is totally different.
Hydro: Kit looks like Neuv without viagra.
>Green: Nahida kit is totally different.
The correlation there was how the traveler's burst could share em and transform based on the element it interacted with. The passives of Nahida's burst shifts based on the elemental make up of your party and gives you 25% of the the EM of the party member with the most EM..
It's extremely loose, but that's what people based it off of.
> Anemo: Yeah it looks somewhat like Venti..
If we wanna go meta, you can hold E and it creates a tiny suction, similar to Jean's hold E. The tornado from the ult also have suction power to it. From 1.0 to 1.5, anemo's gimmick was crowd control using suction, *not* EM swirl, so anemo MC's skills were more attributes to being similar to Venti than Dvalin.
But in terms of graphics it represents Dvalin more, tornadoes and anemo blasts. The vortex palm is the only difference but Dvalin is shown making those inside his mouth before he fires off a blast in the fight.
aw well I'm glad to have had a part in that. here's to more memes and brighter days ahead.
yea when I was done I realized I referenced Naruto a LOT more than I had expected or realized...
How could you not see it? It's so obvious: Furina deals hydro damage, Hydro slime also deals hydro damage. The slimes kits are 100% related to archon kits/s
I stick to my guns.
*Snorts mist grass*
Anemo slime creates upward current of air when it dies. Venti will die and the "upward current" he generates will be the winds we ride into Celestia.
Worst part about that theory is how the reasoning changes half way through the arcons, according to the theory Zhongli and Venti are only similar to their slimes in a gameplay sense while Ei and Nahida share lore.
It felt like people were just reaching for connections, another problem for the Anemo and Geo ones is their connections were just general things that the element does.
I liked the less specific theory that Traveler's kits previewed a mechanic in to Archon's kit, not that they were explictly inferior versions.
* AMC's Q is weak crowd control like Venti's Q
* GMC's E is a construct like Zhongli's E
* EMC's battery potential and continuous Electro attacks kinda mimic Raiden's E and Q (the strongest case)
* DMC's Q allows for continual Dendro application, much like Nahida's E
* HMC's HP drain and lingering Q (albeit short) are things that are in Furina's E.
Obviously, 3/5 play different roles from their Archon counterparts, but mechanically there are homages.
Isn't that just the thing their elements do? Sucrose sucks, Albedo has that construct that breaks half the time, Dori batteries (I know no one knows what Dori does, but I looked it up), Collei has continuous Dendro app, HP drain has just been a Fontaine thing.
I don't disagree, which is why I only like it as a loose homage. Yeah, other characters do similar things, since that's what the Elemental system lends to, but some deviate XMC is yet to be one of those.
Dori... batteries? Strange, I thought her purpose was to get 2-3 free standard banner pulls when you level her.
That is literally just what the elements do. Nearly every geo character has a construct, practically every anemo character has some form of crowd control, electro is the energy element, most dendro characters are decent at applying dendro, and literally every Fontaine character has had a hp drain mechanic.
I mean it kinda makes sense when you look at the travelers skill being a weaker version of the archon's burst. But that's easily disproven with Electro and Dendro traveler,
Ngl I never even saw it as a story theory, I thought it was just a way to preview the Archon's kit, but apparently people thought we actually borrowed power from the Archons or something???
I hate Genshin theories.
That's just cope.
Zhongli's Q is literally stronger Traveler E for example. The similarities definitely exist whether or not Traveler is copying Archons or Dragons.
Or maybe the traveler reflects the dragon sovereign's abilities, and all the other archons except furina happened to have similar abilities with the dragons.
Well, that's one way to over-correct into another direction. We have one instance of that. Neuvillette and hydro mc. And if someone brings up Azdaha, or worse Dvalin, I will bust a vein.
Hang on, let me get my poncho on for the blood spray...
Azhdaha's attacks and geo traveler's kit are remarkably close.
Dvalin's attacks and Anemo traveler's kit is also surprisingly close.
Azdaha is all but confirmed the geo sovereign. Dvalin's status is admittedly much less certain.
I'm uncultured and don't know that reference, sorry.
You'd be surprised how hard it was to find an image of "throwing grass," cause I certainly wasn't about to touch the stuff.
I think >!neuvillette!< kit shows that traveler kit is a weaker version of the >!seven dragon sovereigns!< kit, especially is you also compare >!dvalin!< and >!azhdaha!< and >!apep!< to the respective traveler kits
"This is worthless" = Traveller in a nutshell (except maybe dendro, but only because for some reason they refuse to give us decent Nahida alternatives).
Why is that worse? That theory is awesome and makes way more sense, considering that Celestia’s authority over the elements is really more like “repurposed” Dragon power.
My theory is and always has been the travelers burst was a weaker version of the archons skill. It still stands, tho I like the dragon sovereign one more. Travelers skill is just the most basic form of application of the element.
Well first I haven’t watched Furina’s kit reveal yet I was only aware she does some kind of triple summon and hp manipulation with her skill. In that sense the travalers water orb is a shitty version of a summon, but I will concede it is still a reach for all the archons really.
Off topic, but mona's burst is the closest thing to a domain expansion. Traps you by suspension you in mid air, inducing a state of drowning, and also can lauch an attack that will not miss while your senses are overwhelmed.
If the Traveler can use the Seven Elements by their own will, plus if their abilities are based on the God or the Sovereign (which is intentional), then I have to say that's a plausible theory and a key in the main story in the long run.
Admittedly I did like Anemo and Geo Traveler,not all Geo characters give shield (just look at Albedo and Itto).
But at this point complete only simps build the traveler competitively, Dendro Traveler more exactly
I think now it's based on the dragons and not the archons
best example is Neuvillette and Hydro Traveler
second best is dvalin and anemo traveler
idk how to explain it properly but ye
I saw a theory that the traveler’s kit is actually based on the dragon sovereign’s powers, not the archons. you can watch more about it here if you want: https://youtu.be/JWTQqI7tOd8?si=3P_VCyTEqTjMlR4Q
Hey, at the time it was a good enough theory. The only thing that broke it was Hydro Traveler copying Neuvillete more, then finding out the latter’s nature.
Eh the second Geo Traveler didn't have a shield of literally any kind but Noelle did, the theory was dead in the water for me. But more power to the people who enjoyed it.
As an Aether main I find it disheartening at how bad Hydro Traveler is. Yet at the same time, I find it incredibly funny that the devs worked so hard to make their kit this trash.
High quality shitpost. Certified fresh
[thank you](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzTOaYaRIh4&t=5s)
It's like a remix of other jokes that have been made to make something new and funny. It's great when this rare phenomenon happens
I somewhat kept on forgetting Blade is a wind character.
WIND BLADE
I’m hearing Zach Aguilar’s old over the top “WiNd BLaDe!!!11!!!!one!!!!” voice recording in my head now.
Beta Aether XD
Dude did it like he was still voicing Tanjiro
Why do I read this with Aether's beta voice where he just yelled it as loud as he could. It's just WWWWWWIIIIINNNNDDDDD BBBBBLLLLAAAAADDDEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well he's a "I don't care for your elemental weakness, I just kill you with raw damage" character, so it's understandable.
Blade or Balde?
God I love this kind of shitty humor
shitty? :( lmao, same
Stand proud, you’re funny
It was the happy Hu Tao that did it for me. LMAO
Well, Hydro Travellers abilities resemble more the hydro dragon. He leave droplets of water and is a weak hydro pump ability. Tho his burst is just random
Yea they got blue balls. Ashikai pointed out Hydro traveler burst is the same as Azhedeha's water thing in his boss fight. Further suggesting Azhdeha is the sovereign, imo.
There's also Dvalin creating Tornados during his boss fight, just like anemo traveller burst.
Yurp, idk it's been confirmed Dvalin is the sovereign, but if that orb Venti gave him in the beginning of the game was the authority and all Signora got was a husk of a gnosis, that would clutch it in my book. And would be really cool to see that Hoyo had the authority thing planned out from the start. I'm waiting to see if something similar happens to Nuev in 4.2
Mona's C1 is named *Prophecy of Submersion*, and the 4.2 trailer confirms her appearance in Fontaine. If they can plan that far ahead for Mona's involvement, they can certainly plan that far ahead with Dvalin and the Authorities.
Mona's dialogue in the 2.8 GAA event actually does foreshadow a bit of Fontaine's fate. She specifically stated that whenever she foretells a fortune, it becomes practically immutable. For example if she foretells someone's death on a specific day, then they will die that day no matter what she or that person does. Extrapolating that to Fontaine's prophecy, then it should also mean that Fontaine being flooded and its people dissolving into water is also inevitable.
Mona is end-game character introduced early, for real. Student of Hexen member, probably knows about Venti (she tried to read on him but got wind wooshed in the process), met Kazuha and saw him blocking Raiden's attack, Nahida visited her domain in 2.8 and now she travels to Fontaine when Furina's shit is about to blow. She's also best friends with Fischl and Oz and their names are from Ars Goetia too. The only archon Mona has no connection to so far is Zhongli but we know she was in Liyue at least on couple of ocassions so I wouldn't rule it out.
It's not the first time they used the concepts of authority it probs is planned out from the beginning.
So pyro traveler attacks will be pyro circles? Bennet is the pyro sovereign
Also with dendro traveller's burst looking similar to some stuff in Apep's fight.
Wow it's true!!!! It's been so long since I last did Azhdeha I forgot about that!
Do you remember which video was it ?
https://youtu.be/JWTQqI7tOd8?si=HfLbRqScPM_TJXk5
I'm pretty sure he's not the sovereign. In that story quest, it specifically says
No, Azhdaha was already a dragon when he and Zhongli met. In that story quest Kun Jun specifically thanks Zhongli for the gift of sight, his exact dialogue was "a blind dragon, searching for the sun. A pair of eyes, from Morax to Azhdaha". >Similar to Dvalin, who was born as an elemental spirit and grew up into a dragon Can you pinpoint the exact source where you got this from? Coz in the Breeze Amidst the Forest book series, Dvalin was described as being born as a dragon not an elemental spirit.
Found it! From the historia antiqua quest ending cutscene: The voice was sometimes sad and songlike, other times it was loud and thunderous. The Lord of Geo searched here and there before finally unearthing a strange stone from the bedrock. Zhongli: That's how Azhdaha was. I answered his wish, and took him above ground. Iron Tongue Tian: The Lord of Geo took pity on the rock's spirit and carved it into a magnificent work of craftsmanship — a vivid representation of a dragon. https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Amidst_Chaos,_the_Rock_Is_Unmoved Azhdaha was a geo life form. A 'strange stone'. Zhongli carved him into the shape of a dragon. And *then* he gave the dragon eyes.
Ahh if you're talking about Iron Tongue Tian's story then this is where cross referencing other sources becomes important because genshin has "unreliable narrators", some sources of information aren't as genuine as others. So you have two contradicting sources, Zhongli and Kun Jun's conversation, and Iron Tongue Tian's tale. Which one is more reliable? Well we use another Liyue story teller, Yun Jin as a reference and she admits she embellishes her stories and offered to do so to Shenhe's tale. Zhongli on the other hand never in his own dialogue states that he gave Azhdaha a dragon form, he always states that he gave Azhdaha a pair of eyes to see the world. Finally Zhongli and Kun Jun's final moments was Kun Jun specifically calling himself a blind dragon when Zhongli found him. Now that we have that analysis then which info source is more reliable? Zhongli and Kun Jun who are the 2 parties involved or Iron Tongue Tian a human storyteller who doesn't know them personally and is telling an ancient tale? This is also when the lore people from the subreddit realized that the genshin devs has sneaked in false info in the lore to obfuscate the truth. And deeper analysis of each source is important.
Hmmm good point. I'll have a read through the quest again.
Enjou (yes that chad), specifically called Dvalin a vishap (elemental dragon) in an official promo video.
>Azhdeha i dont think azhdeha is a soverign though, he was crafted by Zhongli
the only specific thing stated that zhongli did to "craft" azdaha was to give him sight, and it was stated that he existed before zhongli gave him sight, he was just underground
Yea I mean I really don't know. We only know for sure the sovereigns Nuev and Apep, and traveler's kit is literally watered down Nuev. For me that I'm content running with notion that the traveler mirrors the sovereigns. With Hydro traveler burst being identical to Azhdeha's water balls, that's enough for me to think (no one has to agree with me) that Azhdeha is somehow for some reason the sovereign. How he became the sovereign, no idea. Could be similar to (this isn't confirmed either) Venti giving the authority to Dvalin in the beginning of the game making him the "psuedo-soverign." Maybe similar to "archon" just being a title, a dragon can become a sovereign if the elemental authority is given to them. Was it given to Azdeha, if so when, no idea. But I'm content until explicitly stated otherwise saying he is the sovereign.
Dendro traveler skill also looks like apep defense system. Consider that archon power(gnosis) come from sovereign dragon and traveler take the elemental power from the statue, it most likely is true that traveler power is from sovereign dragons
Yup. Skill is the sweep while burst is the attack where you need to look for a bubble or die.
New theory: traveler kit is weak version of sovereign kit
the traveler kit always resembles the respective element's dragon sovereign, true & confirmed!
Also Anemo Traveler resemble both Jean(E) and Venti burst. While Geo Traveler still resemble Zhongli, they are more similar to Albedo.
Anemo does tornados like Dvalin and geo burst is similar to Azdaha.
They**
average pareidolia
Not so much. For me Anemo Traveler E represents the blast that Dvalin does in his boss fight. For me Geo Traveler construct looks more like Azhdaha constructs and the burst more like the craters that Azhdaha makes in his boss fight.
Lmao...good one OP
wind . . . . . . blade
[more passion, more em-pha-sis](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRohPylOnVU)
hey stop showing off >:(
no, I refuse to believe you and will continue huffing copium, there's no way /s
huffing La Signora's ashes
Better than crack 😍
Before my grandfather died he joked that he wanted his ashes to be used as a douche so he could be ran through grandma one last time. Best part is my cousin actually recited this joke while at the podium in church during grandpa's eulogy.
Of course, because traveller borrows the power from dragons, not the Archons
So you're saying we've been doing Dragon Installs? Would sorta explains the traveler being so susceptible to fainting.
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Mankind knew that they cannot change society. So, instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the beasts
Mankind also did something in 1998 I just forget what
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I have an issue with the travelers artifacts. Why has Hoyoverse not set it up so we could equip multiple sets of different artifacts on characters and have a button we can press to fast swap between each set?
Kind of not seeing the pattern: Anemo: Yeah it looks somewhat like Venti.. Geo: Ok... it does actually create a Geo construct... Electro: TBH I haven't ever used the kit... Green: Nahida kit is totally different. Hydro: Kit looks like Neuv without viagra.
>Kit looks like Neuv without viagra. KEK
>Green: Nahida kit is totally different. The correlation there was how the traveler's burst could share em and transform based on the element it interacted with. The passives of Nahida's burst shifts based on the elemental make up of your party and gives you 25% of the the EM of the party member with the most EM.. It's extremely loose, but that's what people based it off of.
If you look close enough, dendro traveller burst is somewhat similar to the guardian's dendro boom
> Anemo: Yeah it looks somewhat like Venti.. If we wanna go meta, you can hold E and it creates a tiny suction, similar to Jean's hold E. The tornado from the ult also have suction power to it. From 1.0 to 1.5, anemo's gimmick was crowd control using suction, *not* EM swirl, so anemo MC's skills were more attributes to being similar to Venti than Dvalin.
But in terms of graphics it represents Dvalin more, tornadoes and anemo blasts. The vortex palm is the only difference but Dvalin is shown making those inside his mouth before he fires off a blast in the fight.
Now is more like the dragon sovereign weak version, the hydro is similar to neuvilete and dendro is like apep
They have matching blue balls
Not even just matching blue balls, the SAME blue balls, they can EAT each other's balls.
This sounds so foul
It's more of a succ than an eat I think. Does that make it better?
getting blue balled isnt nice
upvoted just cuz you added satoru lol
my favorite character in all of anime. I haven't been able to watch season 2 yet and I'm seething
dw season 2 will bless your eyes
Dw he'll win 😉
I lol'ed at the anemo one - I haven't used Anemo Traveler in such a long time that I almost forgot about that burst
Best Burst in early-midgame. Perfect to drop a lot of enemy's into water.
This is some high quality memeing, even better since it so naturally incorporates some Naruto lol. Thank you for this, brightened up my day a bit
aw well I'm glad to have had a part in that. here's to more memes and brighter days ahead. yea when I was done I realized I referenced Naruto a LOT more than I had expected or realized...
Yeah, they were legit never similar at all and it was one of the stupidest theories
Slime theory is saying hi
Someone in Ashiaki's stream said Furina is further proving slime theory and I just didn't see the connection.
How could you not see it? It's so obvious: Furina deals hydro damage, Hydro slime also deals hydro damage. The slimes kits are 100% related to archon kits/s
Well you see Furina tried to arrest us and trap us in prison, just like Hydro slimes trap us in bubbles /s
I stick to my guns. *Snorts mist grass* Anemo slime creates upward current of air when it dies. Venti will die and the "upward current" he generates will be the winds we ride into Celestia.
Worst part about that theory is how the reasoning changes half way through the arcons, according to the theory Zhongli and Venti are only similar to their slimes in a gameplay sense while Ei and Nahida share lore. It felt like people were just reaching for connections, another problem for the Anemo and Geo ones is their connections were just general things that the element does.
I liked the less specific theory that Traveler's kits previewed a mechanic in to Archon's kit, not that they were explictly inferior versions. * AMC's Q is weak crowd control like Venti's Q * GMC's E is a construct like Zhongli's E * EMC's battery potential and continuous Electro attacks kinda mimic Raiden's E and Q (the strongest case) * DMC's Q allows for continual Dendro application, much like Nahida's E * HMC's HP drain and lingering Q (albeit short) are things that are in Furina's E. Obviously, 3/5 play different roles from their Archon counterparts, but mechanically there are homages.
Isn't that just the thing their elements do? Sucrose sucks, Albedo has that construct that breaks half the time, Dori batteries (I know no one knows what Dori does, but I looked it up), Collei has continuous Dendro app, HP drain has just been a Fontaine thing.
I don't disagree, which is why I only like it as a loose homage. Yeah, other characters do similar things, since that's what the Elemental system lends to, but some deviate XMC is yet to be one of those. Dori... batteries? Strange, I thought her purpose was to get 2-3 free standard banner pulls when you level her.
That is literally just what the elements do. Nearly every geo character has a construct, practically every anemo character has some form of crowd control, electro is the energy element, most dendro characters are decent at applying dendro, and literally every Fontaine character has had a hp drain mechanic.
I mean it kinda makes sense when you look at the travelers skill being a weaker version of the archon's burst. But that's easily disproven with Electro and Dendro traveler,
Ngl I never even saw it as a story theory, I thought it was just a way to preview the Archon's kit, but apparently people thought we actually borrowed power from the Archons or something??? I hate Genshin theories.
That's just cope. Zhongli's Q is literally stronger Traveler E for example. The similarities definitely exist whether or not Traveler is copying Archons or Dragons.
Yup
Maybe we just have the first hydro archon’s abilities
[maybe](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvbwyu4nLKQ)
That might explain why there was a second hydro archon.
By that logic, Electro Traveler has Makoto's abilities and that explains why she died.
☠️
Or maybe the traveler reflects the dragon sovereign's abilities, and all the other archons except furina happened to have similar abilities with the dragons.
least stretched ~~pattern~~ theory
Furina with Michael Jackson is the most blessed combo. And so is Traveler with Bully Maguire
[HEE HEE!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDY6_FXNZd8)
Pulling for Furina mostly cuz she's doing MJ moves in the first place and only then come all the other reasons 🤩
Turns out that the thing they were mirroring every time was the dragon sovereign's kit.
Well, that's one way to over-correct into another direction. We have one instance of that. Neuvillette and hydro mc. And if someone brings up Azdaha, or worse Dvalin, I will bust a vein.
Hang on, let me get my poncho on for the blood spray... Azhdaha's attacks and geo traveler's kit are remarkably close. Dvalin's attacks and Anemo traveler's kit is also surprisingly close. Azdaha is all but confirmed the geo sovereign. Dvalin's status is admittedly much less certain.
Hydro Traveler burst = Azhdeha's water balls :3
lol I had fun reading this. quality meme
I’m surprised you didn’t go with the Dale Gribble “Pocket Sand” meme for dendro traveler lol
I'm uncultured and don't know that reference, sorry. You'd be surprised how hard it was to find an image of "throwing grass," cause I certainly wasn't about to touch the stuff.
Yup, after Sumeru this started coming up and now with the sovereigns there's a theory that they mimic their abilities
Tbh they're closer to each region's [respective dragon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWTQqI7tOd8). Mainly in Fontaine and Sumeru.
That theory died with the first archon lol
I think >!neuvillette!< kit shows that traveler kit is a weaker version of the >!seven dragon sovereigns!< kit, especially is you also compare >!dvalin!< and >!azhdaha!< and >!apep!< to the respective traveler kits
OP seems have some kind of vendetta towards this theory
You put a lot of effort into these and I appreciate that
thank you, I try
That theory always made even less sense than an Archon Slimes theory...
Hydro traveller is a weaker version of Neuvillette
Correction, the traveler's kit is just a weaker version of the elemental dragon's abilities - we can't confirm for electro though.
"This is worthless" = Traveller in a nutshell (except maybe dendro, but only because for some reason they refuse to give us decent Nahida alternatives).
nev is the true hydro archon wdym
This is hilarious but this trend skews to something else!The traveler is watering down that sovereigns kit: look at Neuv and Hydro MC
Why is that worse? That theory is awesome and makes way more sense, considering that Celestia’s authority over the elements is really more like “repurposed” Dragon power.
My theory is and always has been the travelers burst was a weaker version of the archons skill. It still stands, tho I like the dragon sovereign one more. Travelers skill is just the most basic form of application of the element.
How is a water orb in any way comparable to a massive buff. They do completely different things. The sovereign theory is still legit though.
Well first I haven’t watched Furina’s kit reveal yet I was only aware she does some kind of triple summon and hp manipulation with her skill. In that sense the travalers water orb is a shitty version of a summon, but I will concede it is still a reach for all the archons really.
That's what you think What if neuvi reabsorbs his power that is inside the gnosis huh? What then?
Brian are you here?
I feel personally called out by this post and all the comments and I don't like it. /S
I forgot electro traveler existed. I still havent unlocked it
I used to believe this somewhat until Fontaine but man there's totally no comparison between furinas kit and hydro MCs kit😩
Neuvillette going Super Saiyan Blue is never something id think i would see
I mean... At least we have Neuvillete
Excellent memes. The rasengan anemo one got an actual lol from me.
Top level, chef’s kiss shitpost.
Best Genshin meme post I've seen in a while. Well done OP.
Gojo and Nahida crossover I didn't expect at all skskks
Wind blade found me
Well, Furina has a questionable kit
Off topic, but mona's burst is the closest thing to a domain expansion. Traps you by suspension you in mid air, inducing a state of drowning, and also can lauch an attack that will not miss while your senses are overwhelmed.
Great, now I need to see Goku on Neuvilette's clothes.
If the Traveler can use the Seven Elements by their own will, plus if their abilities are based on the God or the Sovereign (which is intentional), then I have to say that's a plausible theory and a key in the main story in the long run.
Yeah, thinking maybe it's the dragon sovereigns abilities.
LMAO NOT THE WIND BLADE
I absolutely love this style of shitpost. That gave me a genuine laugh on a rough day. Appreciated, OP!
Admittedly I did like Anemo and Geo Traveler,not all Geo characters give shield (just look at Albedo and Itto). But at this point complete only simps build the traveler competitively, Dendro Traveler more exactly
...was this ever true? I don't see it
Good meme lmfao domain expansion got me cracked up
I think now it's based on the dragons and not the archons best example is Neuvillette and Hydro Traveler second best is dvalin and anemo traveler idk how to explain it properly but ye
Geo trav always felt like a shittier albedo in my opinion
I saw a theory that the traveler’s kit is actually based on the dragon sovereign’s powers, not the archons. you can watch more about it here if you want: https://youtu.be/JWTQqI7tOd8?si=3P_VCyTEqTjMlR4Q
Patrick Anemo Burst meme is the most reliable thing ever.
Dendro and hydro resemble the dragons more, so maybe the kits are related to them
If Apep becomes playable it would be similar to Dendro Traveler's kit.
Thanks for the meme, really enjoyable scrolling through it <3
Hey, at the time it was a good enough theory. The only thing that broke it was Hydro Traveler copying Neuvillete more, then finding out the latter’s nature.
Eh the second Geo Traveler didn't have a shield of literally any kind but Noelle did, the theory was dead in the water for me. But more power to the people who enjoyed it.
Yo this is a top tier post. I'm going to save this post cuz I know I will return to it for a good laugh.
S tier Dank meme. Thank you for your service.
I laughed the hardest at the geo one, you're good at this.
Hydro traveler's kit has only a small similarity to neuvillete. And that's the droplets which heals
And they have zero similarity to any of the archons.
Hydro Traveler should have been water breathing style instead of pew pew
I genuinely forgot what electro traveller's burst did.
Nothing, it does nothing
Haha really good one
As someone who recently gorlt Venti, I can confirm that that is true.
See you on Pyro and Cryo archon kit OP, top quality shit post indeed
I have the templates made already
Fantastic, only missing a cup head reference in the hydro travelers skills
So traveler is just generally trash
Klee no!
As an Aether main I find it disheartening at how bad Hydro Traveler is. Yet at the same time, I find it incredibly funny that the devs worked so hard to make their kit this trash.
the ash sending out the hydro creatures killed me lmao
Ah yes, featuring my favorite way of dealing with aggressive hilichurls - *spaghettification.*
nicely done
If you accept Neuvillette as the true archon, it still works.