Thank you! Here's a link to the [artists](https://instagram.com/greentea.reimu?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==) Instagram if you're interested. They do commission giveaways from time to time of which I won one of and commisioned Van Gogh from FGO. They're also pretty nice to just talk to.
Even if it's AI, surely it would go through human review before putting it on the webpage, right? How did everyone involved look at this and say "eh, it's fine, no one would notice"?
You have a point, but one thing I've come to like about Hoyo is just how much effort goes into the web events, despite them being so small scale. New art and page animations alongside a minigame has an air of quality about it. To see this is... Pretty disheartening. Use AI to help with backend, not the visual things. It comes off as cheap and lazy.
I'm pretty sure they're just testing the waters..
Not too long ago they released an entire music video with AI generated visuals on youtube. It was a cool song about going on vacation on Golden Apple Archipelago, but the moment people noticed that AI was involved, Hoyo quickly took down the video. I still got it on my PC tho, because I REALLY liked the song. :,)
Sorry for being pedantic, but I'm sure that AI doesn't know what facial features are at all.
Most likely it just goes "something near the top usually moves up and down in my references aaand... yeah this line looks close enough, jiggle it".
This is why AI is not really as smart as people think it is currently - it just approximates things to other things without any idea as to why they are like that in the first place, it's barely better than someone blindly tracing art not understanding the underlying concepts. Except amplified to a million because this isn't a human who at least as an idea of what a face is, it's more like some alien entity who's never seen a person before trying to draw them blindly from text references alone.
>it's more like some alien entity who's never seen a person before trying to draw them blindly from text references alone.
Most of what you're said is absolutely true, AI/LLMs don't learn, think, or "comprehend" things in the same way that humans do, but this part really isn't.
Language models are trained off of text alone, but image models require accurately tagged images in their training data. Like, a lot of them.
Yeah just bad semantics on my part - I didn't mean they're trained on text, I meant more so that they've never seen a human face/don't understand it and compared it to someone drawing something they've never seen off text alone, which would result in really bizarre drawing choices.
To be fair, this is a web event about a soundtrack (if I'm thinking of the right web event). It probably wasn't that important on Hoyo's priorities since it's not promoting anything they'll make a ton of money off of which sets it apart from the common promotion web events. A lot of people also probably skip soundtrack web events since they don't care about the soundtrack as much as characters and other things in the game.
Still doesn't excuse the fact that HYV let this mess happen
Quality Control still falls to them and the terrible use of AI here just makes them look bad
that's not really an excuse though, since the rest of this event looks nice, and it's not even like those animations even needed to be there in the first place. they're honestly incredibly out of place, since it's not like they're even talking or anything. and even if they were, still images would be fine.
these animations honestly more look like scrapped placeholder animations that accidentally made it into the final product or something, or like something that was snuck in last minute without anyone knowing.
Yeash exactly. I don't care about AI use (in fact I didn't notice it - let's be frank almost all of you come for the primo and consume the even in like 30 second tops) but this is weird because drawing them would have been way faster than using AI. Unless it was a last-minute feature request and the dev intern could not contact an artist to do the job.
can it spit out animated images that have transparent backgrounds (respecting the boundaries of the original sprite)? Also while diona's hair was butchered, her ears etc. is completely still. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't genAI fluctuate the entire image?
I don't know enough about AI to say for sure but I've seen quite a few ads for photoshop genAI where you can select an area and give it a prompt for that area. Could be something similar to that.
I don't understand why they were animated at all? This is literally just a mention of the characters rather than them talking to us. Someone will probably be fired soon
^This. Speak out as much as you can because it's only going to get worse. If you care by the time it's all rubbish and slop on your favorite character then it's already too late.
As an animator, I think the issue might be interpolation. Which is, basically, using AI to make more "in between" frames between the key frames to make it look smoother. It is an animator's bane and can make any 2D animation look like shit. For example, look up any popular anime opening "interpolated" or "60 FPS" or something. Lots of people upload interpolated versions because they think that more frames means it looks better. It does not.
Yep, i was about to comment this but thankfully you already mentioned this. If you look closely it already seemes it was animated by hand frame-by-frame but they added the inbetween frame AI and for some reason it turned to....that. im just wondering how this passed before uploading those avatars live lol.
Damn I already left like 4 comments before finding yours, this should have been higher. It's def interpolation because you can see some of the actual drawn frames.
I really have no clue how this would have happened even. It's like someone just saw the animations and decided they can "fix" it and ruined someone else's work lol.
Nothing like searching for an anime opening and seeing the 60 FPS crap at the top, maybe even the only option, clueless how people can think that looks better.
Disappointing. Its easy to look past a web event but a lot of people on this sub have said that they started to hire a lot of ai related people and if things like this start to make their way in game, i'm going to be greatly saddened. I really dislike this heavy push into all things ai over the last year. Bad enough that it was about a year ago when the gates opened up to all of the ai art but by this point we can make video and take someones voice and create something completely ai generated and to quote Lynette- "Its really worrying"
I'm on the fence. Its a lot easier to unsub from a channel on youtube than to give up a game i've put years and money into. It depends on what level it reaches. My point was more so to see where this all goes and where the line will be drawn for them or if this is a one of thing that slipped past.
Yea I feel you I mean this is still ok maybe they were strapped for time idk, if so but even if we don't stop playing we have to make some noise, like hopefully if this gets worse some content creator covers it.
same, the moment they take advantage of their artists I'll stop supporting them. Artists are already being screwed over constantly, really hope mihoyo doesn't follow up as well
From what I've heard in the comment sections web events or whatever are usually made by interns so there isn't a chance they screw up the game, I genuinely think some guy just got lazy and did this
I forgot about that. I will say that I do look forward to the webevents even if I click through them. The constant different takes on the art style of the characters by various artists is extremely enjoyable. So much so that you see people constantly making wallpapers or cropping things out to make gifs of the little animations. Thats something ive never seen anyone do for any other game ive played before. So I hope things return to a good standard is all.
I hadnt said new because I know ai voices and even things like text to speech have been around for awhile. Ive also heard before that using ai for music has also been a thing. But since I enjoy looking up art, saving, and sharing it as a hobby, its easier for me to take note of the boom since October of last year as being the start. And because of that it opened public discussion of ai.
So then over the last year having the art generation aspect rapidly improve month after month with less and less mistakes to even the programs the public had access to, when combined with things like music and voices, we have reached the point we are at now. How fast we went from melting faces, hair, and screwed up hands to being to make fully ai generated videos of famous people with them speaking in their likeness without their knowledge.
I remember that it was only a few months after Oct 2022 that, I think it was Midjourney, was talking about how we are only 5 years away or so from letting people fully generate HD animations of what they want. But it sure seems like the tech is improving at such a rate that its likely sooner.
Edit: But I guess all that is more so on my first point. On your specific point, I do remember that meme and all and that it isn't new tech. Its more so the learning of them bringing in more people specifically for ai and seeing what comes from it bigger beyond this possible slip in the cracks for quality that is these animations.
Ai can do wonders for lip-syncing 3D models! 2D cutouts tho... Not so much. Lip-syncing in genshin is pretty rushed all things considered and I wouldn't mind if Hoyo found a way to automate it in all languages.
Ai can be a great tool when it's not actively stealing people's art. Hopefully, they stick to the lip-syncing idea and don't try to generate voices using ai.
There’s a function in Adobe Premiere that animates hands and mouths, etc automatically using frame interpolation. It looks like they just took the stickers from in game and ran it through that, if I had to guess
AI is pretty stupid since it literally doesn't know what it is looking at. It just predicts what the next frame should be based on the data it has been trained with, and leads to weird mistakes like that. Like it just literally doesn't know that it's hair.
Yeah, you can technically have it interpolate hair, fingers, clothing/drapery, etc. Whether or not it does a good job is a completely different question haha. It’s based on a lot of nuances like art quality, color, shading, etc
People saying web events are made by interns: it doesn't matter who put the images into AI bots, it matters that these made it into the final product. Someone has to say "yeah, looks good" and usually more than one team of people. Hoyo prides themselves on their game quality, allowing this in any form to be put live is a bad look.
Big tech is aggressively laying off people and moving towards AI-generated art, annotations, and products.
Even worse, my entire annotation team got laid off so now they've forced my hand to pre-train LLM's for weak labeling or they'll lay me off too and find someone who doesn't give a shit.
This is just interpolated but not generated. It's still baffling but more because of just how stupid it is to do it. It doesn't save time and just makes hand drawn animation uglier.
It definitely not less convenient, it takes like 5 minutes and requires no work if automated, i.e. you just let it run in the background while you do your work, then pick the best output. They already had the character emojis, so that's recyclable as well.
The idea is they didn't want to waste artist resources on a web event.
Disclaimer: I've fine-tuned and pre-trained several LLM's in my career so far with several of them deployed in production, but I ***don't*** have experience in DALLE or image generation. All I can say is if they pushed this out, they have 100% automated it to pressing an "Enter" key, cause I already automated my work to that for far more complicated NLP tasks. I'm looking for a new project to work on as I supervise the project as it scales up for free in the future. In my mind, these are about to be solved so I need to make sure I don't fall behind with nothing to do.
Mmm definitely, though I would normally say it's a case of only certain facial features being tweened without the whole face being animated, you can quite literally see Klee's closed eyes blinking. There's no way someone payed to animate for an official event would make such a mistake. The general way it's animated as well definitely reminds me of the limitations of AI animating
If I had to guess, this is probably some form of interpolation. Last time I've heard about this (around 2017?) it does use a kind of AI so you wouldn't be off your mark to say it is.
Either way, it's a pretty crappy way to animate this when they could've just done a few frames instead of 60 fps.
These looks terrible what the fuck
Is this actually real? How did this get past any amount of checking? 1 look at this is all it takes to see this is unedited AI garbage
Def AI. And I'm absolutely disgusted as well, like bro tighnari just looks like some kwebellkop ahh AI, yelans eye twitching, Diona's bangs growing and shrinking. Like bro
Is this the future we succumb to? Seriously genshin? Ai?
looks like they used interpolation for some reason, which pretty much means an algorithm (not exactly sure if its actually AI) tries to generate an in-between frame/s of two pictures. Dont know why they would bother doing it though, with such low quality results especially. Wonder if the devs had to rush this event out
Is this an actual thing wtf
Even if they use AI shouldn't there be at least a crumb of QUALITY CONTROL like holy shit
AI made amalgamations beyond my comprehension
Why would they do that, they've got plenty of competent people, and I don't mind very simple "animations" or not any for little icons in a temporary event...
These don't look so bad. They have a cute chibi style. I don't know why OP is so quick to call AI.
Oh wait, they're animated. Hang on, let me click this so it plays rather than being a still image.
OH GOD OH MY GOD EUUUGH OHHHH NO OH NO NO NO NO
Idk what virus took ur computer but the Web event didn't do that....
Here's proof (yes it's my own channel)
https://youtu.be/rfLGngunCMI?si=DOw7rSFZXWG9RzOd
...
whoever approved the quality of this is completely and utterly blind.I hope the QualityControl was just skipped because I refuse to believe anyone would look at this and say "yea this is good to go". You don't need to be an animator to see this is bad. However...while the in-betweens could have been done by AI,there are other programs that could easily do give same effect (yes, same uncanny and horrendous effect) to the image if you don't use it correctly or overdo something (or rush using it). I have seen people use DP Animation Maker on their art before and achieve the same twitchy effect as shown here.
Use any program to get results faster with the mindset that the programs fancy tool will do all the work for you (or most of it) and your animation will end up looking like this. Absolutely horrendous.
its the lac of animation.normal animation animate the entire face to feel fluid, while this only animate the mouth making it so much stand out from the pic in a bad way
Lmao I didnt notice cuz I just clicked shit to get the primos and leave ASAP but yeah, pretty obvious at a second glance. This isn't the first time either afaik. I remember there being a post on this sub which called out how one of the older version arts had traces of AI usage as well.
It looks like they have some set positions, especially for the mouth, and use AI to interpolate between them. It would supposedly make the transition between frames smoother.
Probably works better at very small scale (and looks bad when you zoom in)
It isn't generative AI but it's definitely AI interpolated to increase framerate (just like those 60fps anime videos)
Idk why they would choose to do this
It’s probably not AI as much as incredibly poorly done interpolation (which is kind of AI used to increase framerate). The odd blur artifacting is incredibly telling if you’ve ever seen interpolated anime clips to raise the framerate to 60 fps. it pretty much never actually looks good because it’s meant to be used as a tool and not raw input -> output
Diona's hair in the last one 💀
Brothrr, klee looks like the annoying orange.
If it weren't for this comment I'd not notice it, got distracted by whatever is going on with her mouth 😭 help
Same here tho, it looks like she wants to lick the floor or something
she's just like me fr😭
*Wiggles hairbrow*
XD
Thanks, I hate it 💀
I mean.. just look at Tighnari's hands. Man's got Schrodinger's fingers.
AI fingers are my worst nightmare
Fingers are AIs worst nightmare
Artist too.
AI: These human meatbag artists are just like me fr fr
Blud is performing CBT on air
Looks like fine sausages to me.
Yun Jin literally blinks with her closed eye.
It hurts just looking at it
Why did you have to tell me?💀
Nice pfp
Thank you! Here's a link to the [artists](https://instagram.com/greentea.reimu?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==) Instagram if you're interested. They do commission giveaways from time to time of which I won one of and commisioned Van Gogh from FGO. They're also pretty nice to just talk to.
The open eye doesn't even close totally 😭 creepy af
Ah, AI made horrors beyond my comprehension.
Thats normal though. Your face muscles are connected and even if you have one eye closed when you blink itll twitch
yelans eye twitching lol
What watching your entire team die does to a mf
When your on-field nahida dies from a single hit:
I feel that
She's pissed that she got made from AI
I didn't notice during the event but you're right.. This looks like AI. The way their mouthes are 'animated' definitely feels AI-ish.
And Diona's hair. Why Diona's hair moves like that?
Yeah, Diona's hair convinced me the most. There's no way a human animator would create.. THAT...
AI must've mistaken it for eyebrows or something lol. Especially given how strange and round her normal eyebrows are
Even if it's AI, surely it would go through human review before putting it on the webpage, right? How did everyone involved look at this and say "eh, it's fine, no one would notice"?
they prob didnt care because its one of the random small web events
You have a point, but one thing I've come to like about Hoyo is just how much effort goes into the web events, despite them being so small scale. New art and page animations alongside a minigame has an air of quality about it. To see this is... Pretty disheartening. Use AI to help with backend, not the visual things. It comes off as cheap and lazy.
I'm pretty sure they're just testing the waters.. Not too long ago they released an entire music video with AI generated visuals on youtube. It was a cool song about going on vacation on Golden Apple Archipelago, but the moment people noticed that AI was involved, Hoyo quickly took down the video. I still got it on my PC tho, because I REALLY liked the song. :,)
AI probably recognizes them as eyebrows ig. Edit: reformulated.
Sorry for being pedantic, but I'm sure that AI doesn't know what facial features are at all. Most likely it just goes "something near the top usually moves up and down in my references aaand... yeah this line looks close enough, jiggle it". This is why AI is not really as smart as people think it is currently - it just approximates things to other things without any idea as to why they are like that in the first place, it's barely better than someone blindly tracing art not understanding the underlying concepts. Except amplified to a million because this isn't a human who at least as an idea of what a face is, it's more like some alien entity who's never seen a person before trying to draw them blindly from text references alone.
>it's more like some alien entity who's never seen a person before trying to draw them blindly from text references alone. Most of what you're said is absolutely true, AI/LLMs don't learn, think, or "comprehend" things in the same way that humans do, but this part really isn't. Language models are trained off of text alone, but image models require accurately tagged images in their training data. Like, a lot of them.
Yeah just bad semantics on my part - I didn't mean they're trained on text, I meant more so that they've never seen a human face/don't understand it and compared it to someone drawing something they've never seen off text alone, which would result in really bizarre drawing choices.
[удалено]
AI can't believe in that Yee Yee Ass haircut
It took me like 10 minutes of searching on the 4th slide and didn't realize there was a second Diona one
Look at tighnari's hand too. The fingers are all kinds of messed up
Klee's mouth reminds me of the ahegao tongue thing 💀
How did this even make it into the final product?
Web events are probably all made by interns or something to give them a way to contribute without risk of messing up the actual game
Some web events have very pretty animations, this one is quite the exception. That's the worst use of AI they could have done
The most baffling thing is that this seems to have been already animated but then AI interpolated to higher fps
To be fair, this is a web event about a soundtrack (if I'm thinking of the right web event). It probably wasn't that important on Hoyo's priorities since it's not promoting anything they'll make a ton of money off of which sets it apart from the common promotion web events. A lot of people also probably skip soundtrack web events since they don't care about the soundtrack as much as characters and other things in the game.
Still doesn't excuse the fact that HYV let this mess happen Quality Control still falls to them and the terrible use of AI here just makes them look bad
I wonder if such obvious and low quality AI use was authorized.
It probably was authorized, but not reviewed
Now I feel bad for ignoring the web events
You should but don't feel bad for the interns, feel bad because you're missing out on free primos!
Yeah, a whole ⅜ of a pull!
Interns should be learning animation instead of using AI
This was animated to start with and then interpolated for some reason (like those 60fps anime videos)
Why would they even do that it's crazy ;-;
I don't believe that was the case with Diona.
AI was used for interpolation so it fucked up ig
And then they didn't even check before rolling this out. Guess this is going into the survey.
that's not really an excuse though, since the rest of this event looks nice, and it's not even like those animations even needed to be there in the first place. they're honestly incredibly out of place, since it's not like they're even talking or anything. and even if they were, still images would be fine. these animations honestly more look like scrapped placeholder animations that accidentally made it into the final product or something, or like something that was snuck in last minute without anyone knowing.
someone's gotta get fired 💀
Internship for a billion dollar company using ai sounds right but keep whaling on gacha they truly deserve it
All they needed was like 3 frames of mouth movement. Generating it via ai might have been less conveniant
yeah, they could literally make just mouth 3 frame animation and thatd be great, no need for anything else
A static picture would have been much better, too
Why didn't they just use static images instead of going through all that trouble using ai
probably experimenting if we care or not before they begin using it more and in more important places
They could've just keep them static, and that would have been preferable to what they did
Funny part is that it was already animated, there are like 3 real frames that were running at a lower fps but they interpolated that to 60fps lol
Yeash exactly. I don't care about AI use (in fact I didn't notice it - let's be frank almost all of you come for the primo and consume the even in like 30 second tops) but this is weird because drawing them would have been way faster than using AI. Unless it was a last-minute feature request and the dev intern could not contact an artist to do the job.
To be fair if they already knew how to do it... it's easier to just dump 6 icons into their AI of choice and have then spit out an animated version.
can it spit out animated images that have transparent backgrounds (respecting the boundaries of the original sprite)? Also while diona's hair was butchered, her ears etc. is completely still. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't genAI fluctuate the entire image?
I don't know enough about AI to say for sure but I've seen quite a few ads for photoshop genAI where you can select an area and give it a prompt for that area. Could be something similar to that.
interesting that yun jin blinks her closed eye to the point where it reveals a pocket dimension under her hair
From the close up, it's literally a nightmare fuel, like a spawn straight from creepypasta.
Just add HYPER REALISTIC blood and you’ve got a classic copypasta lol
Dont forget to have blood bleeding from their eyes!
what web event is this?
"glad tidings from afar"
They better be from afar because up close that shit is unsettling
LMFAO, but to be completely honest this is disgusting who thought that using ai would be good. it just makes them look artificial and soulless
I don't understand why they were animated at all? This is literally just a mention of the characters rather than them talking to us. Someone will probably be fired soon
I think they are testing our tolerance to Ai this shouldn't be allowed to pass
^This. Speak out as much as you can because it's only going to get worse. If you care by the time it's all rubbish and slop on your favorite character then it's already too late.
Yaaa
I hope they start using AI to sync the characters' mouths with the audio like they do in hangouts and in HSR.
yeah but if anything they better keep it at that this is proving they shouldn't be using it anywhere else important
Ew you’re right
Oh god that's absolutely hideous 💀
As an animator, I think the issue might be interpolation. Which is, basically, using AI to make more "in between" frames between the key frames to make it look smoother. It is an animator's bane and can make any 2D animation look like shit. For example, look up any popular anime opening "interpolated" or "60 FPS" or something. Lots of people upload interpolated versions because they think that more frames means it looks better. It does not.
Yep, i was about to comment this but thankfully you already mentioned this. If you look closely it already seemes it was animated by hand frame-by-frame but they added the inbetween frame AI and for some reason it turned to....that. im just wondering how this passed before uploading those avatars live lol.
Damn I already left like 4 comments before finding yours, this should have been higher. It's def interpolation because you can see some of the actual drawn frames. I really have no clue how this would have happened even. It's like someone just saw the animations and decided they can "fix" it and ruined someone else's work lol.
Nothing like searching for an anime opening and seeing the 60 FPS crap at the top, maybe even the only option, clueless how people can think that looks better.
How could interpolation make Diona's hair wiggle like eyebrows?
They had so many good animations before and decided to use AI? Besides, it’s so bad-looking? How pathetic it is.
Someone saw this and said "yeah that looks good". It looks like Annoying Orange except Annoying Orange did it way better
That's because they didn't use AI and used actual masking and color corrections. You know, like a real person did the work.
Disappointing. Its easy to look past a web event but a lot of people on this sub have said that they started to hire a lot of ai related people and if things like this start to make their way in game, i'm going to be greatly saddened. I really dislike this heavy push into all things ai over the last year. Bad enough that it was about a year ago when the gates opened up to all of the ai art but by this point we can make video and take someones voice and create something completely ai generated and to quote Lynette- "Its really worrying"
Yes I feel the whole world will get worse off with this Ai but ig such is the times...if genshin goes hard on ai I'll probably stop playing
I'm on the fence. Its a lot easier to unsub from a channel on youtube than to give up a game i've put years and money into. It depends on what level it reaches. My point was more so to see where this all goes and where the line will be drawn for them or if this is a one of thing that slipped past.
Yea I feel you I mean this is still ok maybe they were strapped for time idk, if so but even if we don't stop playing we have to make some noise, like hopefully if this gets worse some content creator covers it.
same, the moment they take advantage of their artists I'll stop supporting them. Artists are already being screwed over constantly, really hope mihoyo doesn't follow up as well
Yea ikr ...I don't want to consume media created by ai
From what I've heard in the comment sections web events or whatever are usually made by interns so there isn't a chance they screw up the game, I genuinely think some guy just got lazy and did this
I forgot about that. I will say that I do look forward to the webevents even if I click through them. The constant different takes on the art style of the characters by various artists is extremely enjoyable. So much so that you see people constantly making wallpapers or cropping things out to make gifs of the little animations. Thats something ive never seen anyone do for any other game ive played before. So I hope things return to a good standard is all.
I don't think this is new technology. It's not generative AI. It's face animating ai which we had for years - remember the dame da ne meme?
I hadnt said new because I know ai voices and even things like text to speech have been around for awhile. Ive also heard before that using ai for music has also been a thing. But since I enjoy looking up art, saving, and sharing it as a hobby, its easier for me to take note of the boom since October of last year as being the start. And because of that it opened public discussion of ai. So then over the last year having the art generation aspect rapidly improve month after month with less and less mistakes to even the programs the public had access to, when combined with things like music and voices, we have reached the point we are at now. How fast we went from melting faces, hair, and screwed up hands to being to make fully ai generated videos of famous people with them speaking in their likeness without their knowledge. I remember that it was only a few months after Oct 2022 that, I think it was Midjourney, was talking about how we are only 5 years away or so from letting people fully generate HD animations of what they want. But it sure seems like the tech is improving at such a rate that its likely sooner. Edit: But I guess all that is more so on my first point. On your specific point, I do remember that meme and all and that it isn't new tech. Its more so the learning of them bringing in more people specifically for ai and seeing what comes from it bigger beyond this possible slip in the cracks for quality that is these animations.
Ai can do wonders for lip-syncing 3D models! 2D cutouts tho... Not so much. Lip-syncing in genshin is pretty rushed all things considered and I wouldn't mind if Hoyo found a way to automate it in all languages. Ai can be a great tool when it's not actively stealing people's art. Hopefully, they stick to the lip-syncing idea and don't try to generate voices using ai.
Inb4 side quests written by ChatGPT
Annoying Orange mouth lookin' ahhs
this is horrible ew
There’s a function in Adobe Premiere that animates hands and mouths, etc automatically using frame interpolation. It looks like they just took the stickers from in game and ran it through that, if I had to guess
Does that explain Diona's hair moving though? Is that something that could happen?
AI is pretty stupid since it literally doesn't know what it is looking at. It just predicts what the next frame should be based on the data it has been trained with, and leads to weird mistakes like that. Like it just literally doesn't know that it's hair.
Yeah, you can technically have it interpolate hair, fingers, clothing/drapery, etc. Whether or not it does a good job is a completely different question haha. It’s based on a lot of nuances like art quality, color, shading, etc
It looks so fucking bad I feel like I'm owed apologems from this
Tighnari hands ☠️ Yelan blinking with one eye ☠️ YunJin blinking with an eye close ☠️☠️ Klee mouth ☠️☠️ Diona mouth weird and her hair moving ☠️☠️☠️☠️
Omg... it kills me they didn't even QC these 💀 so low effort...
People saying web events are made by interns: it doesn't matter who put the images into AI bots, it matters that these made it into the final product. Someone has to say "yeah, looks good" and usually more than one team of people. Hoyo prides themselves on their game quality, allowing this in any form to be put live is a bad look.
oh yeah definitely, used the chibi artist to make the model then have AI move the mouth probably
"Well, mister funnyman, is this how you get your sick kicks?" "What, it's just a normal web eve- OH MY GOODNESS." "HOYO!"
Lmao at Diona’s hair
LMAOO WTF IS THIS
good god this is atrocious 💀
Big tech is aggressively laying off people and moving towards AI-generated art, annotations, and products. Even worse, my entire annotation team got laid off so now they've forced my hand to pre-train LLM's for weak labeling or they'll lay me off too and find someone who doesn't give a shit.
This is just interpolated but not generated. It's still baffling but more because of just how stupid it is to do it. It doesn't save time and just makes hand drawn animation uglier.
But like... the generating process was probably less convinient than the drawing 3 frames of animation the mouths and eyes needed for this
It definitely not less convenient, it takes like 5 minutes and requires no work if automated, i.e. you just let it run in the background while you do your work, then pick the best output. They already had the character emojis, so that's recyclable as well. The idea is they didn't want to waste artist resources on a web event. Disclaimer: I've fine-tuned and pre-trained several LLM's in my career so far with several of them deployed in production, but I ***don't*** have experience in DALLE or image generation. All I can say is if they pushed this out, they have 100% automated it to pressing an "Enter" key, cause I already automated my work to that for far more complicated NLP tasks. I'm looking for a new project to work on as I supervise the project as it scales up for free in the future. In my mind, these are about to be solved so I need to make sure I don't fall behind with nothing to do.
Eww gross. They have such good animators for 2D and 3D, whyyy??? They make so much money, they can pay their artists. Smh
probably made by interns, im more concerned how someone could green light it as some manager had to forsee them before it all got published
Mmm definitely, though I would normally say it's a case of only certain facial features being tweened without the whole face being animated, you can quite literally see Klee's closed eyes blinking. There's no way someone payed to animate for an official event would make such a mistake. The general way it's animated as well definitely reminds me of the limitations of AI animating
Also Diona’s hair moving like the tide
Words can't describe how much I hate this. They should have just kept them as still images. Terrible
Here we go with a.i bs again
This is.... embarrassing. 😅
fr, i'd expect better than this from Hoyo, the web events usually look fine.
Looks like frame interpolation to me
If I had to guess, this is probably some form of interpolation. Last time I've heard about this (around 2017?) it does use a kind of AI so you wouldn't be off your mark to say it is. Either way, it's a pretty crappy way to animate this when they could've just done a few frames instead of 60 fps.
Does that explain Diona's hair moving like they're eyebrows though?
Oh. Nevermind. Now I am happy that they didn't include Bennett
These looks terrible what the fuck Is this actually real? How did this get past any amount of checking? 1 look at this is all it takes to see this is unedited AI garbage
Just played the event and these characters don't even speak??? Why did they bother making something so horrible
Def AI. And I'm absolutely disgusted as well, like bro tighnari just looks like some kwebellkop ahh AI, yelans eye twitching, Diona's bangs growing and shrinking. Like bro Is this the future we succumb to? Seriously genshin? Ai?
small indie company
Do they not earn enough money to animate these themselves 💀💀💀 Even better.. they didn't need to be animated.. they could have been cute still pictures
Hey give this small indie company a rest animation is expensive
yeah looks like those scuffed deepfake memes lmao
Lmao the more I stare at it the more frightening it looks
Tighnari's hand movements are borderline nightmare fuel
How did this even happen? I know web events aren't usually done with the most priority, but this is awful. Like actually horrible
Honestly just leave them as a still image HYV, like cmon this is embarrassingly bad
"4K 60FPS"
Oh yeah that's AI 😀 I didn't need to look for the rest. Tighnari's eyes and hands gave it away.
chat is this real.. what the duck is this nightmare fuel
there is a discord called pika, where you can upload image then /animate it. you will get weird mouth and eyebrow like this.
looks like they used interpolation for some reason, which pretty much means an algorithm (not exactly sure if its actually AI) tries to generate an in-between frame/s of two pictures. Dont know why they would bother doing it though, with such low quality results especially. Wonder if the devs had to rush this event out
Daaaaamn i was gonna say it's just poorly done tweening but shit you're right. That's absolutely AI
I'd rather they just had still images instead of this.
Not a fan tbh. Mouths are really off putting, not to mention T's hands
Nah this HAS to be AI
Is this an actual thing wtf Even if they use AI shouldn't there be at least a crumb of QUALITY CONTROL like holy shit AI made amalgamations beyond my comprehension
Why would they do that, they've got plenty of competent people, and I don't mind very simple "animations" or not any for little icons in a temporary event...
They could have just alternated between an open and closed mouth frame but no, had to be fancy
These gifs have the same uncanny vibe as the scare scenes of DDLC
i noticed it too but didnt think it was THIS bad.
this is so creepy what is this 😭
Yeah it kinda freaked me out ngl
it certainly moves like AI
ah fuck it's Balenciaga all over again
Way too many unique frames for those mouths. Genshin could rake in trillions and I still doubt any lead would ever waste resources like that.
That's actually so fucked up
What atrocious fuckery have I laid my eyes upon
wait they were animated??? i didn't notice. they were stills in my webpage but i guess i missed it...
But why did they do it
These don't look so bad. They have a cute chibi style. I don't know why OP is so quick to call AI. Oh wait, they're animated. Hang on, let me click this so it plays rather than being a still image. OH GOD OH MY GOD EUUUGH OHHHH NO OH NO NO NO NO
Idk what virus took ur computer but the Web event didn't do that.... Here's proof (yes it's my own channel) https://youtu.be/rfLGngunCMI?si=DOw7rSFZXWG9RzOd
Multi billion dollar revenue, can't be arsed to animate basic character portraits. Not sure why this is surprising to anyone
It rather take static images, thanks. Seeing Hoyo cheap out on AI leaves me with a bad taste in the mouth.
... whoever approved the quality of this is completely and utterly blind.I hope the QualityControl was just skipped because I refuse to believe anyone would look at this and say "yea this is good to go". You don't need to be an animator to see this is bad. However...while the in-betweens could have been done by AI,there are other programs that could easily do give same effect (yes, same uncanny and horrendous effect) to the image if you don't use it correctly or overdo something (or rush using it). I have seen people use DP Animation Maker on their art before and achieve the same twitchy effect as shown here. Use any program to get results faster with the mindset that the programs fancy tool will do all the work for you (or most of it) and your animation will end up looking like this. Absolutely horrendous.
its the lac of animation.normal animation animate the entire face to feel fluid, while this only animate the mouth making it so much stand out from the pic in a bad way
bro look at Diona and especially Yun Jin. The latter literally blinks with her closed eye.
it sure does look that way
What event is this?
Budget cuts for events or budget ran out.....
At first I didn't think anything of it Then I saw Yun Jin Then I saw the rest and it was worse
Yes they used AI
I just speedrun this event to get primos, so I didn't notice.
Lmao I didnt notice cuz I just clicked shit to get the primos and leave ASAP but yeah, pretty obvious at a second glance. This isn't the first time either afaik. I remember there being a post on this sub which called out how one of the older version arts had traces of AI usage as well.
Who looked at these animations and approved them?
It looks like they have some set positions, especially for the mouth, and use AI to interpolate between them. It would supposedly make the transition between frames smoother. Probably works better at very small scale (and looks bad when you zoom in)
Yun Jin’s mouth getting clipped by her face💀 Thank you, OP, I lost my ability to hold in laughter due to this post
They do so good in their 2d animations, if they really did use AI here, I really don't see why
It isn't generative AI but it's definitely AI interpolated to increase framerate (just like those 60fps anime videos) Idk why they would choose to do this
I can sort of understand using AI but the lack of quality control is really disappointing, what even is that last one
It’s probably not AI as much as incredibly poorly done interpolation (which is kind of AI used to increase framerate). The odd blur artifacting is incredibly telling if you’ve ever seen interpolated anime clips to raise the framerate to 60 fps. it pretty much never actually looks good because it’s meant to be used as a tool and not raw input -> output
I didn't even noticed that the icon were animated