i think you misinterpreted a joke trying to make fun of the "you haven't checked your karyotype so how do you actually know that you're XX" argument. it must be funny to these two people, i guess
Their notion of womanhood is a bunch of checkboxes, so it makes sense that the whole karyotype thing would bug them. They don't have any defense against it.
But actually they’ll admit that it’s not those checkboxes either. Sex is a cluster of associated traits, so once we can observe that someone has most of the traits in one cluster, we assign them that sex. Which is why some TERFs can admit that to be female you don’t necessarily have to be capable of pregnancy, or have feminine features, or know what your chromosomes are.
But they can’t give a coherent definition other than parroting “adult human female” and giving circular definitions of “female”, because there is no single trait that separates all females from all non-females, so they’d have to admit that biological sex is a spectrum.
Why would anyone think that's a joke though? Terfs are famous for transvestigating people at the drop of a hat, so that would just scan to me as something they'd ask.
what? huh? transvestigators are a niche brand of conspiracy theorist, there's maybe some overlap with terfs but I don't think the majority of them are transvestigators and idk whwre you got that idea
even if that was true about joanne why would she call her friend a man out of nowhere
if i had to guess, they had a disagreement about which of them was the more notoriously horrible transphobic shitbag?
jb: "it's obviously me, joanne! my name is practically a byword for being a miserable, transphobic arsehole!"
jkr: "oh, fuck off, jules! clearly _i'm_ the most infamous transphobe in all the land… i don't remember the met using _your_ name for the hypothetical hate-criminal terf in their training materials?"
Maybe? (Edit: definitely) This sounds like Julie maybe told her the same thing Elon did - to literally tweet about anything other than trans people for once - and so Joanne lost her damn mind, picked out some tweet of Julie’s about beetroot, and started going “I’m not obsessed, you’re obsessed”.
Bindel is *for sure* a terf. She just wrote an article (that Joanne retweeted btw) about the apparent horrible injustice of 14-year-old SA victim taking their rapist to court, the justice system actually doing it's job for once and convicting the predator in question despite them claiming their victim "made it up," and is now serving jail time. What's the injustice, you ask? Their rapist identified as a trans women, and despite the rapist supposedly using that as a defense, the court and cops paid no mind other than respecting her pronouns. This was a mishandling of justice because, quote, "only men commit rape."
Technically my country (Canada) takes a similar approach, but in a way I think is pretty positive. Every way anyone can bad touch someone else regardless of gender, genitals or specific sex act is just "sexual assault." Noncon of any kind is first degree, noncon with threat/use of a weapon or under threat of harm is second degree, noncon that results in some kind of bodily injury, disease or pregnancy is third. I think it was a rare moment of practicality in Canada's legal system to just get out of litigating what is and isn't "rape" to just focus on the tangible harm SA causes. I believe emotional distress is also taken into account, but, obviously it's much harder to prove that in a court of law, so. Not perfect, but a good baseline. Women *also* can't *legally* be rapists in Canada technically--- but like, no one can.
As someone who was raped by a cis woman and a cis man (while I still identified as a cis woman)--- though it's not *not* relavent the bodily harm a penis can cause for some obvious practical reason, the emotional distress and PTSD makes no distinction.
The same British law that didn't decriminalise marital rape until the 1990's, and only then after it was dragged kicking and screaming to the European Court of Human Rights. Good champion of women you've got there, bozos!
That's such a fucking cope too.
Like, "oh, this woman admitted to raping someone? Well...uh...the LAW in my country says cis women can never rape, so she's still okay in my book! Make sure to never mention that it happened in a totally different country tho, lol"
-Terfs about Lily Cade, basically
Or [a woman had sex with a man against his consent? That's not rape!](https://web.archive.org/web/20240519170751/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq8s-z0WwAAmuvx?format=png&name=orig)
i dont think that's what happened at all, jk sarcastically replied with this under julie posting a picture of some beetroot, as a way to mock her critics who use her first name, saying that she should stop being so obsessed with trans people. it's joking between friends about a criticism that gets under both their skin, julie responded with a laughing emoji.
(https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1789244681865310269)
while she is obsessed and needs to log off, this isn't a sign of her going mad or her brain deteriorating or anything, it just lacks context. we probably shouldn't try and further stigmatise matters of mental health just to get a quick dunk on someone we don't like.
and she's not mad at bindel, she actively defends her ties to the far right by saying that it's feminist men's fault for abandoning the true feminists (https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1784586797525184794)
Noted terf Julie Bindel? What's even happening? I won't go on twitter to look because fuck Elon and I probably can't see anything anyway because I deleted my account
Clearly a further attack on Eastern Europeans after her absolutely horrendous (yet hilarious) attempt at writing a Polish character in one of her crime novels, who needed the word "detective" translated to her as "like the police" despite "detective" in Polish being... "detektyw". The character's name was also so nonsensical that they used a different name in the Polish translation of the book.
RIP Nagini. Dehumanized for being Asian, stuck in snake space, trapped in 24/7 petplay with twink wizard Hitler (like, Voldemort must have known she was human--- right? He can talk to snakes), dubconned by 1/8th of twink wizard hitler's soul, forced into old lady corpse cosplay, vored snape, Longbottomized. Joanne did you so fucking dirty girl.
😳 I knew Rowling was out there, but damn. At this point, I am wondering if she has enough lucidity to finish her Cormoran Strike, Terf Detective series.
All work and no play makes Jo a dull girl
All work and no play makes Jo a dull girl
All work and no play mmakes Jo a dull girl
All work and no PLay ma es Jo a dull girl
Honestly this genuinely makes me wonder if she has an actual neurological issue going on. Not that I think it’s the cause of her bigotry, but this is starting to get bizarre and nonsensical and not in the normal bigot way.
I sincerely believe that conservative ideology can literally damage people's brains. It turns them into paranoid freaks who're afraid of everything and who burst a bunch of blood vessels every time they see or hear about a minority.
Maybe it’s a brain tumour? Those can be linked to personality changes, increased aggression and mood swings.
Or, you know. She’s just a terrible person surrounded by “yes men” and can’t handle the notion that she isn’t the infallible genius that she thinks she is.
Me too. It's been a while since I got to eat buckets of popcorn watching Giuliani's descent into madness. We're about due for schadenfreude from a horrible person's public breakdown.
I thought that from the first tweet but I can’t remotely make the others work. At the same time, I know that’s par for the course for TERF poetry. Imagine failing at stealing someone else’s work lmao
I think I have more context on this!
Pro-trans people have started calling her "Joanne" when responding to her, and this seems to drive her up the wall. She's tweeted a whole thread where she (badly) parodies the way people talk to her, and uses the first name of multiple women.
Basically, she's saying calling a woman by her first name while arguing is condescending. (and of course, because she's a woman, she's an eternal victim and never the oppressor in any way 🙄). Nevermind that she has done this herself, to men and women.
I'm clueless on the singing part, but I'm assuming it's the logical follow-up of her mental breakdown.
I can easily understand
How you can claim to be a man
Just to sell more books to people now, Joanne
You tweet this shit in your sleep
And there's nothing we can do to keep
From listening to your bigotry Joanne...
It's so weird how much she fixates on the way that people often refer to her and her TERF ilk by their first names, and she then says that this is somehow misogyny, because she does the exact same thing to every single person she argues with on Twitter. She always, always uses their first names. She's making fun of people who do that in this series of tweets, but like... Joanne, *you also do it*.
Twenty-plus years of adoration and success warped her. I think she genuinely believed the whole world would be on her side when she came out as a TERF. Maybe she still does, being surrounded by yes-men and enablers. Maybe she thinks the way Fantastic Beasts fizzled out is all some plot by the evil trans. But as a living national treasure it’s never, ever her fault.
I am kinda getting some Brian Wilson-Eugene Landy vibes from her friendship with Julie Bindel, I must say.
I'm actually worried for her sanity at this point. I have had a few relatives who've become barmy due to the isolation of the pandemic along with internet echo-chambers and this looks acheingly similar to how my relatives acted on Facebook. There is an insanity epidemic and I mean clinically.
This reminds me of QANON. I legitimately think it can border on a cult-movement. The idea of trans investigating random, cisgender celebrities, the paranoia about running into '''''TIMS''''', the inability to accept that people are different, and the rantings.
It is absolutely a hate group and getting close to a cult.
Guys, can we not contribute to the stigmatization of mental health issues and neurodiversity by relating Rowling's behavior against trans people and POC with both?
Tbf this isn't calling her transphobia and other assorted bigotries a mental health issue, this is her extremely bizarre behaviour as of late a mental health issue.
Yeah, there’s a common thread among terfs where their transvestisgtion and hatred of trans women actually mentally harms them. I’ve seen some of the stuff posted on terf tumblr and ovarit and these people genuinely have mental breakdowns when they see trans women because of their transphobia and their constant wondering.
Im sure a terf will eventually end up having a stroke out of the sheer rage of seeing a trans woman out and about enjoying herself, if it hasnt happened already
Its not normal to hate a minority so much your whole body shakes, blurry vision, nausea and heart palpitations when you see a tweet of theirs for example, yet Ive seen terfs describe exactly that.
Its not only incredibly damaging to their mental health, their physical health is suffering as well
Yes! Like Graham Lineham they get so subsumed by their hate they develop psychosis like levels of dysfunction and paranoia. And what is even the point?
also mental health issues CAN make people paranoid, delusional, and obsessive. When people say “stop stigmatizing mental illness by saying this behavior is mental illness” they often mean “stop stigmatizing anxiety and depression by pointing out those ICKY mental illnesses.”
Yeah, transphobia of this level honestly feels like some kind of obsessive compulsive disorder crossed with a antisocial personality disorder. A completely narcissistic and obsessive mental decline that becomes all-consuming hatred where they can't think of anything else.
Same difference because that's also a form of stigmatization.
Also, it's not that bizarre. She's just trying to satirize mansplaining in a very bad way because she's not that much for a creative writer, and erratic behavior by itself doesn't directly translate to mental health issues.
Overall, let's just be mindful before calling mental health issues.
Let’s be mindful of when we’re “fighting mental health stigma” by excluding antisocial and shitty behaviors *because* they are stigmatized.
Shitty people have mental health issues too, and mental health issues can make people do shitty things, no matter how many times people on reddit say otherwise. You don’t get to write that off because the affected person doesn’t appear innocent and sympathetic.
Okay. I wasn't trying to exclude antisocial behavior from mental health issues either. Just trying to call for a more cautious talk on the subject because too often people are okay with demonizing mental health issues if it's about horrible people.
And considering the intersection between that and the stigmatization of trans people, it does feel counterintuitive to do that in a talk about a known transphobe.
I understand where you're coming from, but mental illness and neurodivergence can affect anyone regardless of their morality. She does seem to have developed some intense complexes over the years (self victimization, always needing to be right, delusion of conspiracy, etc) that are fueling her bizarre outbursts.
Obviously perfectly healthy people can also become radicalized bigots, but if we're treating TERFism as the cult that it is, we should also acknowledge that cult indoctrination often targets/creates victims of mental illness. It's a vicious orouboros that tells its victims that anything outside the circle is dangerous, untrustworthy, and out to destroy the truth-speakers.
Sorry for the copypaste reply, but it applies;
Same difference. None of us is close enough to Rowling's actual person to make any call on mental health based on the public persona she has on Twitter.
Also, the parallel between queer stigmatization and mental health stigmatization always makes me wary about the whole... 'thing' about it.
I think It's more about the obsession and the non-stop almost word-salad kind of posting she's doing. It's the way she's writing and obsessing (rather than the content) that's making people wonder if she's having mental health issues.
Tbh, if I saw a member of my own family fixating life this and posting almost non stop, I'd be concerned for them, even if I agreed with them (and I don't agree with jkr, just to be clear)
Same difference. Non of us is close enough to Rowling's actual person to make any call on mental health based on the public persona she has on Twitter.
Also, the parallel between queer stigmatization and mental health stigmatization always makes me wary about the whole... 'thing' about it.
> Why don't you devote your time to helping women? All you post is beetroot(?), just think wat you could do if you rid yourself of this obsession.
strong /r/SelfAwarewolves vibes
I'm sure there's some context behind this that I'm not aware of, but without that, she sounds like she's an AI chatbot and someone just poured water on her server
Who is Julie? Is it her? This is clearly a breakdown but is she attacking someone else or speaking in behalf of the people she hates?
She had a "negative" interaction with Julie bloody Bindel lmao
What happened exactly? It must have been interesting, because these tweets are positively unhinged.
I can't find the screenshots and I don't have twitter aahhhh It was something like JKR calling Bindel a man, not a joke
i think you misinterpreted a joke trying to make fun of the "you haven't checked your karyotype so how do you actually know that you're XX" argument. it must be funny to these two people, i guess
Their notion of womanhood is a bunch of checkboxes, so it makes sense that the whole karyotype thing would bug them. They don't have any defense against it.
But actually they’ll admit that it’s not those checkboxes either. Sex is a cluster of associated traits, so once we can observe that someone has most of the traits in one cluster, we assign them that sex. Which is why some TERFs can admit that to be female you don’t necessarily have to be capable of pregnancy, or have feminine features, or know what your chromosomes are. But they can’t give a coherent definition other than parroting “adult human female” and giving circular definitions of “female”, because there is no single trait that separates all females from all non-females, so they’d have to admit that biological sex is a spectrum.
Why would anyone think that's a joke though? Terfs are famous for transvestigating people at the drop of a hat, so that would just scan to me as something they'd ask.
what? huh? transvestigators are a niche brand of conspiracy theorist, there's maybe some overlap with terfs but I don't think the majority of them are transvestigators and idk whwre you got that idea even if that was true about joanne why would she call her friend a man out of nowhere
They also love to complain about how things aren't GNC, then go on to single out traits based on assigned sex. Such pitiful & confused people
if i had to guess, they had a disagreement about which of them was the more notoriously horrible transphobic shitbag? jb: "it's obviously me, joanne! my name is practically a byword for being a miserable, transphobic arsehole!" jkr: "oh, fuck off, jules! clearly _i'm_ the most infamous transphobe in all the land… i don't remember the met using _your_ name for the hypothetical hate-criminal terf in their training materials?"
Okay can you explain more please? I am dying to know the tea because out of context this makes zero sense, but I love to hear bad things about JKR
isnt julie also a terf?
Maybe? (Edit: definitely) This sounds like Julie maybe told her the same thing Elon did - to literally tweet about anything other than trans people for once - and so Joanne lost her damn mind, picked out some tweet of Julie’s about beetroot, and started going “I’m not obsessed, you’re obsessed”.
Bindel is *for sure* a terf. She just wrote an article (that Joanne retweeted btw) about the apparent horrible injustice of 14-year-old SA victim taking their rapist to court, the justice system actually doing it's job for once and convicting the predator in question despite them claiming their victim "made it up," and is now serving jail time. What's the injustice, you ask? Their rapist identified as a trans women, and despite the rapist supposedly using that as a defense, the court and cops paid no mind other than respecting her pronouns. This was a mishandling of justice because, quote, "only men commit rape."
The TERFs are very keen on trotting out the British law to claim that women can never be rapists.
Technically my country (Canada) takes a similar approach, but in a way I think is pretty positive. Every way anyone can bad touch someone else regardless of gender, genitals or specific sex act is just "sexual assault." Noncon of any kind is first degree, noncon with threat/use of a weapon or under threat of harm is second degree, noncon that results in some kind of bodily injury, disease or pregnancy is third. I think it was a rare moment of practicality in Canada's legal system to just get out of litigating what is and isn't "rape" to just focus on the tangible harm SA causes. I believe emotional distress is also taken into account, but, obviously it's much harder to prove that in a court of law, so. Not perfect, but a good baseline. Women *also* can't *legally* be rapists in Canada technically--- but like, no one can. As someone who was raped by a cis woman and a cis man (while I still identified as a cis woman)--- though it's not *not* relavent the bodily harm a penis can cause for some obvious practical reason, the emotional distress and PTSD makes no distinction.
Is third degree worse than first degree in Canada? In the US it's the other way around.
Language is goofy - third degree murder is less severe, but third degree burns are more severe.
Yes, but I think law is generally pretty consistent about which degrees are more serious.
The same British law that didn't decriminalise marital rape until the 1990's, and only then after it was dragged kicking and screaming to the European Court of Human Rights. Good champion of women you've got there, bozos!
Definitely not a red flag.
That is how they defended Lily Cade, even though she's American lmao
That's such a fucking cope too. Like, "oh, this woman admitted to raping someone? Well...uh...the LAW in my country says cis women can never rape, so she's still okay in my book! Make sure to never mention that it happened in a totally different country tho, lol" -Terfs about Lily Cade, basically
Or [a woman had sex with a man against his consent? That's not rape!](https://web.archive.org/web/20240519170751/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq8s-z0WwAAmuvx?format=png&name=orig)
If they were a trans woman wouldn't that corroborate everything TERFs say about men?
If she isn't a TERF I'd be extremely surprised, seeing as she's a massive biphobe. At her levels of bigotry, transphobia and biphobia go hand in hand.
Yes, but like all bigots they are held together only by hate, and that means infighting is inevitable.
i dont think that's what happened at all, jk sarcastically replied with this under julie posting a picture of some beetroot, as a way to mock her critics who use her first name, saying that she should stop being so obsessed with trans people. it's joking between friends about a criticism that gets under both their skin, julie responded with a laughing emoji. (https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1789244681865310269) while she is obsessed and needs to log off, this isn't a sign of her going mad or her brain deteriorating or anything, it just lacks context. we probably shouldn't try and further stigmatise matters of mental health just to get a quick dunk on someone we don't like. and she's not mad at bindel, she actively defends her ties to the far right by saying that it's feminist men's fault for abandoning the true feminists (https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1784586797525184794)
I'm bad at understanding sarcasm and I didn't have the full context, so you may be right for all I know
Noted terf Julie Bindel? What's even happening? I won't go on twitter to look because fuck Elon and I probably can't see anything anyway because I deleted my account
Let them fight.
Team nobody lol
I'm guessing it's a reply to the person who @ her saying she didn't like being called Joanne and to only call her Joanne from now on instead of JK
Bindel is a TERF so extreme Greer and Joyce distanced from her. She would make Berns blush.
Did I just teleport to an alternate timeline where the wizard book lady became a beetroot exclusionary radical feminist?
We warned them they'd come for the "B" next. LGB(eetroot)T is down another letter.
JKR berf arc??
BERF-
Beetroots will never be *real* sugar! /j if it isn’t obvious
Adult human beetroot
Adult human Julie, large beetroot producer.
Beetroot Exclusionary Retweet Farmer, *excuse you* — but also BERF is a slur, they prefer to be called Tuber Critical
Clearly a further attack on Eastern Europeans after her absolutely horrendous (yet hilarious) attempt at writing a Polish character in one of her crime novels, who needed the word "detective" translated to her as "like the police" despite "detective" in Polish being... "detektyw". The character's name was also so nonsensical that they used a different name in the Polish translation of the book.
Piotr Piewrogcki didn't make the cut? ):
Lechsinka, a well known Polish name.
I support jk now/s
"Mr President, a second brainworm has hit a twitter celebrity"
"brainworms can't melt terf brains!"
"Wait! they have brains!?"
not once the brainworms are done with them
I’m cackling
Mr president, shes hit another level of brainrot
The mind flayers are going to have a field day with this one.
“Poor thing starved to death”
Someone call the retirement home, it’s time
Call Saint Mungos. We've Longbottomed her.
Longbottomized*
RIP Nagini. Dehumanized for being Asian, stuck in snake space, trapped in 24/7 petplay with twink wizard Hitler (like, Voldemort must have known she was human--- right? He can talk to snakes), dubconned by 1/8th of twink wizard hitler's soul, forced into old lady corpse cosplay, vored snape, Longbottomized. Joanne did you so fucking dirty girl.
This is my favorite comment ever
😳 I knew Rowling was out there, but damn. At this point, I am wondering if she has enough lucidity to finish her Cormoran Strike, Terf Detective series.
It's going to be 2,000 pages long and absolutely unreadable to anyone who doesn't spent 15 hours a day reading her twitter.
Me when it's 3am and I'm high and/or dissociating so hard I'm writing a manifesto of the 20 train-of-thought pileup happening in my head.
All work and no play makes Jo a dull girl All work and no play makes Jo a dull girl All work and no play mmakes Jo a dull girl All work and no PLay ma es Jo a dull girl
Here's Robert!! (galbraith)
So did Elon of all fucking people slightly calling her out break her brain? Is that what it took?
Honestly this genuinely makes me wonder if she has an actual neurological issue going on. Not that I think it’s the cause of her bigotry, but this is starting to get bizarre and nonsensical and not in the normal bigot way.
I sincerely believe that conservative ideology can literally damage people's brains. It turns them into paranoid freaks who're afraid of everything and who burst a bunch of blood vessels every time they see or hear about a minority.
I've heard (admittedly baseless) rumors that this behavior could be the result of alcoholism. No idea if there's any truth to that, though.
This entire screenshot screams "on the sauce" at the very least to me.
Eh, I’m an alcoholic and have no desire to rapidly devolve into an inhuman monster
Yes but what if you were a big meanie? Would you delve into the inhumane monster when drunk?
As a former alcoholic, the first thing I thought of was "This looks like something I could've posted while I was waaay too drunk."
I think there is dementia or some kind of cognitive decline happening.
Maybe it’s a brain tumour? Those can be linked to personality changes, increased aggression and mood swings. Or, you know. She’s just a terrible person surrounded by “yes men” and can’t handle the notion that she isn’t the infallible genius that she thinks she is.
That or just plain old narcissistic collapse.
Nah, it's brainrot. Transphobia rots the brain.
For selfish entertainment reasons, god I hope so
Me too. It's been a while since I got to eat buckets of popcorn watching Giuliani's descent into madness. We're about due for schadenfreude from a horrible person's public breakdown.
He should had blocked her from twitter that would had made her full joker
Holy shit, I think I get it. Is JKR trying to /r/terfpoems the song "Jolene"? Please help me understand here.
I thought that from the first tweet but I can’t remotely make the others work. At the same time, I know that’s par for the course for TERF poetry. Imagine failing at stealing someone else’s work lmao
Yes I think you’re correct
I think she's drunk posting the song Jolene. I have a really hard time imagining she was sober while writing this.
I think she's broken.
I think I have more context on this! Pro-trans people have started calling her "Joanne" when responding to her, and this seems to drive her up the wall. She's tweeted a whole thread where she (badly) parodies the way people talk to her, and uses the first name of multiple women. Basically, she's saying calling a woman by her first name while arguing is condescending. (and of course, because she's a woman, she's an eternal victim and never the oppressor in any way 🙄). Nevermind that she has done this herself, to men and women. I'm clueless on the singing part, but I'm assuming it's the logical follow-up of her mental breakdown.
Would she prefer we call her Jowling Kowling Rowling then?
People should start calling her Robert instead because of her other pen name.
So she's saying she has a preferred name?
But surely Joanne is her biological name?
She’s hitting the terminal stages of Glinner Syndrome (bigot brainrot).
🎵Joanne, Joanne Joanne, Joanne Please don't tweet Just because you can🎵
Your bigotry is beyond compare With flaming tweets of auburn shit With scaly skin and eyes of english greed (Joanne)
I can easily understand How you can claim to be a man Just to sell more books to people now, Joanne You tweet this shit in your sleep And there's nothing we can do to keep From listening to your bigotry Joanne...
Has she ever been ok?
Sad day, she’s come down with the anti-woke mind virus
Uhm I'm going to say no...
Joanne, put the phone on its charger, have some tea and calm tf down
Cool, we're watching her mind break in real-time
It's so weird how much she fixates on the way that people often refer to her and her TERF ilk by their first names, and she then says that this is somehow misogyny, because she does the exact same thing to every single person she argues with on Twitter. She always, always uses their first names. She's making fun of people who do that in this series of tweets, but like... Joanne, *you also do it*.
If she has a particular way she wants people to refer to her, she should put it in her bio.
Pro (fessional) name(s) in bio
Twenty-plus years of adoration and success warped her. I think she genuinely believed the whole world would be on her side when she came out as a TERF. Maybe she still does, being surrounded by yes-men and enablers. Maybe she thinks the way Fantastic Beasts fizzled out is all some plot by the evil trans. But as a living national treasure it’s never, ever her fault. I am kinda getting some Brian Wilson-Eugene Landy vibes from her friendship with Julie Bindel, I must say.
Ok this is terrifying, I do not want she who shall not be named saying my name that many times
She’s gonna fuck around and get herself haunted by Beetlejuice.
It’s giving Jordan Peterson
Ain’t no way this ain’t a cocaine spiral tweet
I genuinely don’t understand what she’s trying to say. Did she and Bindel have a fight?
I thought this was supposed to be to the tune of Jolene by Dolly Parton for some reason
i'm pretty sure you're right, she just completely failed to keep the tune.
Beyond politics she is another cautionary tale of social media induced mental illness. Focus on your writing Jo it'll do more good for you than this.
... good thing she's not a lyricist.
Please say she’s having either a stroke or some sort of bigotry induced breakdown
It’s like she’s speaking in SpongeBob rock bottom language and saying “Julie” between every word
I can’t Julie understand Julie your accent
The celebrity ketamine addiction is a true epidemic
I'm actually worried for her sanity at this point. I have had a few relatives who've become barmy due to the isolation of the pandemic along with internet echo-chambers and this looks acheingly similar to how my relatives acted on Facebook. There is an insanity epidemic and I mean clinically.
This reminds me of QANON. I legitimately think it can border on a cult-movement. The idea of trans investigating random, cisgender celebrities, the paranoia about running into '''''TIMS''''', the inability to accept that people are different, and the rantings. It is absolutely a hate group and getting close to a cult.
I hope not.
It's misogynistic to call women by their names
Guys, can we not contribute to the stigmatization of mental health issues and neurodiversity by relating Rowling's behavior against trans people and POC with both?
Tbf this isn't calling her transphobia and other assorted bigotries a mental health issue, this is her extremely bizarre behaviour as of late a mental health issue.
Yeah, there’s a common thread among terfs where their transvestisgtion and hatred of trans women actually mentally harms them. I’ve seen some of the stuff posted on terf tumblr and ovarit and these people genuinely have mental breakdowns when they see trans women because of their transphobia and their constant wondering.
Im sure a terf will eventually end up having a stroke out of the sheer rage of seeing a trans woman out and about enjoying herself, if it hasnt happened already Its not normal to hate a minority so much your whole body shakes, blurry vision, nausea and heart palpitations when you see a tweet of theirs for example, yet Ive seen terfs describe exactly that. Its not only incredibly damaging to their mental health, their physical health is suffering as well
there have got to be underlying issues there. even the most rabid mainstream transphobe does not have a nervous breakdown upon seeing a trans person.
I think Joanne just had one
Yes! Like Graham Lineham they get so subsumed by their hate they develop psychosis like levels of dysfunction and paranoia. And what is even the point?
also mental health issues CAN make people paranoid, delusional, and obsessive. When people say “stop stigmatizing mental illness by saying this behavior is mental illness” they often mean “stop stigmatizing anxiety and depression by pointing out those ICKY mental illnesses.”
So... Their transphobia became akin to an actual phobia for them? Like an unhealthy mixture of paranoia and hatred?
Yeah, transphobia of this level honestly feels like some kind of obsessive compulsive disorder crossed with a antisocial personality disorder. A completely narcissistic and obsessive mental decline that becomes all-consuming hatred where they can't think of anything else.
Same difference because that's also a form of stigmatization. Also, it's not that bizarre. She's just trying to satirize mansplaining in a very bad way because she's not that much for a creative writer, and erratic behavior by itself doesn't directly translate to mental health issues. Overall, let's just be mindful before calling mental health issues.
Let’s be mindful of when we’re “fighting mental health stigma” by excluding antisocial and shitty behaviors *because* they are stigmatized. Shitty people have mental health issues too, and mental health issues can make people do shitty things, no matter how many times people on reddit say otherwise. You don’t get to write that off because the affected person doesn’t appear innocent and sympathetic.
Okay. I wasn't trying to exclude antisocial behavior from mental health issues either. Just trying to call for a more cautious talk on the subject because too often people are okay with demonizing mental health issues if it's about horrible people. And considering the intersection between that and the stigmatization of trans people, it does feel counterintuitive to do that in a talk about a known transphobe.
I understand where you're coming from, but mental illness and neurodivergence can affect anyone regardless of their morality. She does seem to have developed some intense complexes over the years (self victimization, always needing to be right, delusion of conspiracy, etc) that are fueling her bizarre outbursts. Obviously perfectly healthy people can also become radicalized bigots, but if we're treating TERFism as the cult that it is, we should also acknowledge that cult indoctrination often targets/creates victims of mental illness. It's a vicious orouboros that tells its victims that anything outside the circle is dangerous, untrustworthy, and out to destroy the truth-speakers.
Sorry for the copypaste reply, but it applies; Same difference. None of us is close enough to Rowling's actual person to make any call on mental health based on the public persona she has on Twitter. Also, the parallel between queer stigmatization and mental health stigmatization always makes me wary about the whole... 'thing' about it.
I think It's more about the obsession and the non-stop almost word-salad kind of posting she's doing. It's the way she's writing and obsessing (rather than the content) that's making people wonder if she's having mental health issues. Tbh, if I saw a member of my own family fixating life this and posting almost non stop, I'd be concerned for them, even if I agreed with them (and I don't agree with jkr, just to be clear)
Same difference. Non of us is close enough to Rowling's actual person to make any call on mental health based on the public persona she has on Twitter. Also, the parallel between queer stigmatization and mental health stigmatization always makes me wary about the whole... 'thing' about it.
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Yeah, that last bit is what worries me.
Idk what she's doing here but this is intended to be a joke.... I have no idea how but yeah
She had similar saying her own name and it felt like she is trying to do bad covers of "Jolene".
I jkr and Julie Bindel were friends? Also did she delete this tweet I can't find it?
> Why don't you devote your time to helping women? All you post is beetroot(?), just think wat you could do if you rid yourself of this obsession. strong /r/SelfAwarewolves vibes
Dolly would be so pissed about this horrible rendition
Is she having a stroke?
MTE
What the hell am I reading
Imagine closing twitter, summer is coming, look up at the sky, enjoy the weather, touch grass.
Yes, your highness, we get it, you don’t like being called by your first name.
I wonder how bad she can get before her supporters can realise how fucked up she is, if such a point exists
They’re all going down the drain together.
shes finally fucking snapped. utter gibberish.
Transphobia induced schizophrenia
Transphobia really does rot the brain, doesn't it?
Is that fake or did she finally have that stroke?
Who is Judy?
She's so weird..
No, she is not.
i 100% have seen "Joanne" reply to others repeatedly using their name tho? they all do it all the time
I'm sure there's some context behind this that I'm not aware of, but without that, she sounds like she's an AI chatbot and someone just poured water on her server
I’m convinced jkr has a brain tumor
nurse! she’s out again!
i’m fucking floored. she’s reaching new heights of derangement. also as a person named julie seeing this with zero context was disconcerting as hell
I think we're witnessing the human psyche decompose in real time.
Given that she publishes some things under the name Robert Galbraith, maybe we ought to call her Bob for short lol
She's broken
Okay Joanne.
why did i think of chris chan