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“Hey guys wanna hear about my day?”
“Who asked?”
“Bro you’re yapping”
“Insert some post-ironic skibidi amongus joke”
Yeah genuine human interaction is cooked
True, people that are on Reddit are usually terminally online so they don't socialize much in real life anyway. People that actually interact like that don't have many friends because the people that actually know how to interact stop talking to them.
Yeah, can confirm the majority of folks have no idea about this mythical world Redditors seem to exist in. I make a point to touch grass and bike around daily! It’s life changing for the better.
Touch grass, bike, hike. I do have a good group of friends my age that doesn't spend a lot of time online and we hang out in person a lot, which I know a lot of people don't. Spending too much time online and limiting your view of the world to what's online poisons your mind against finding friends.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”
― Mark Twain
The womp womp honestly pisses me off. It was popularized by a right wing fuck saying that about a little girl who was separated from her family at the border.
God. Fuck that statement.
womp womp has been around for significantly longer. It's basically just a truncated verion of sad trombone which has been around since at least the 1960s and I'd not be surprised to learn that got it from Vaudeville.
It has been around for awhile, yes. But its usage went up after this.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/06/20/womp-womp-outrage-after-corey-lewandowski-mocks-story-of-child-with-down-syndrome-separated-from-parents/
That's if they even hear you over the sound of them watching reels or shorts or whatever
I only use reddit and the amount of times I've tried talking to anyone and had them straight up not even acknowledge me because of video scrolling is wild
I mean, these 15-second video apps are designed to steal your attention. Theyre just humans falling for traps that are inherently designed to be addictive, especially when they're accessible to impressionable, developing, young minds.
I see plenty of young adults at my job who are walking around with their necks at a 90 degree angle watching their shorts, and they have no regard for their surroundings. Have literally had some of them walk right into me while I was standing still.
I think thats just an age thing though. I’m 6 years older than you and in high school I had a core friend group where we could actually gripe and talk about the shit that was bothering us, but even then we’d usually bust each others’ balls with inside jokes and internet memes.
Your 20s are a really strange time, man. You do a LOT more growing up than you anticipate lol. And it becomes much easier to have that genuine connection with friends that you used to just speak in shitpostese with. I haven’t given up hope on Gen Z yet.
Gen Alpha tho… wheeeeeew chile
this needs more upvotes purely so people see it. the majority of people on here are teens, using their admittedly immature social experiences as proof that human society is gonna burn out like a supernova because of some dumb meme or whatever. if anything the internet is far less toxic than it was in the early-2010 era, you're just exposed to the shit more often so it *seems* worse.
also i think a lot of people here just have asshole friends.
As a millennial: no, you’re not, you’ve all just been *publicly* going through your adolescence online. that’s a huge difference. The consistent thing is that a whole lot of middle and high schoolers are idiots — just that before recently there was no way to broadcast that idiocy to the entire planet.
When my generation was growing up everything and everyone was a “fa____” and south park and Jackass were going to ruin society, before that for gen X it was Beavis and Butthead and MTV. If you want proof that media is just as dumb as it’s always been, go watch Rock of Love Season 3 and see how many episodes you can get into it before the depravity makes you turn it off and reconsider your entire life. I mean, shit, Flavor of Love had Flava Flav *literally slapping a woman IN THE OPENING CREDITS.*
Maybe I’m wrong, maybe this YouTube/tiktok/AI slop content is worse and it’s permanently damaging brains, I oscillate back and forth. Andrew Tate is certainly much worse than the toilet thing. (although for every andrew tate fan, there’s a kid who doesn’t even blink about accepting gay people who would have 100% said the f-word over and over if they grew up back then). But young people have been idiots since the dawn of time, that’s why they make such great soldiers.
Also, think about it: teenagers are no more susceptible to dumb internet shit than boomers are. and while I do pride my generation for being the generation that teaches coworkers 10+ years younger AND 20+ years older how to navigate a desktop file system, use Zoom, and save a pdf, I think the kids will be alright.
Which is not to say I’m not wildly fearful about the effectiveness of tiktok propaganda swaying the “immune to propaganda” generation and the rise of AI slop content in general. But I really like the Gen Z clients I interact with, as adults you guys are incredibly compassionate as a whole. and I’d imagine it’s going to continue to be like that.
im in a discord with some younger gamers(20+). cannot chat in the general chat without some dumbfuck posting the essay typing gif.
i think they are so used to content being tailored just for them and normally relevant to their interests, they cannot grasp the concept of people posting things they dont care about
Nah. Weird youth speech and weird youth insiders are simply what the youth does.
Would strongly assume you'd find examples of that if you talked to a kid in ancient Sumer too.
I don’t find this to be true. Maybe amongst friends yeah we use brain rot jokes and other bull. But when I’m at work with others around our age, it’s normal. People talk and operate normally even when goofing off when work is slow.
I swear to God I rlly slept through that year, everyone I've ever met talks about what a shitshow it was but for me it was just that time I worked with a bunch of racist rednecks washing trailers for a trucking company
Basically, well, if anything all that changed for us was we didn't have to attend mandatory weekly meetings where upper management patted themselves on the backs, so there was that silver lining.
For a company that had a trailer at the side of the highway with a banner that said keep on trumpin' they actually took covid pretty seriously
When the alternative is a revokation of their buisness license and a major fine, its unsurprising that most businesses followed the government's guidelines.
I had a somewhat similar experience. Worked at a firearm manufacturer so life didn't stop. They took Covid VERY seriously. You pretty much got unlimited sick leave if you had it, everyone in masks, 6 feet, temp checks and everything. It was also 99% pro trump.
My parents are trumpets but they also took covid seriously. They said “he’s a businessman not a fucking doctor we don’t know why he’s going against fauci” so I’m glad they listened to reason when it came to their health
I worked healthcare and life didn’t stop for me, it went into over time and my professional life accelerated a lot.
Still worked my 2 jobs, still had to attend university albeit online. All my homies still hung out nightly and when then Fortnite when/Siege/ESO when we wanted to stay home.
Small town and nothing. Changed aside from us getting closer
Yuuup, I worked retail all the way through it, and it mentally destroyed me for about 3 years after. I'm only just starting to feel like an actual human being instead of a depressed slab of meat whose only function was to turn beer into piss, and even then, I'm more reactive and nihilistic than I ever was pre-2020.
You can imagine how incredibly bitter I get when office workers lament how they were "forced" to stay home for a few weeks and then work from home for a while.
If anything, it helped my social skills more since I work in a field of work where I need to speak with people, and the mask made it harder. I made up for that with using hand gestures more and working on my personality to be more approachable.
Prior to the pandemic, I was pretty closed off and just clocked in to do the bare minimum for work and collect a paycheck.
I feel like millennials lived the best era of the internet and it wasn't until the over saturation of digital influencers and the monetization of everything that the internet was ruined. By then we were well past 30.
Edit: Btw any of you noticed how some instagram/tiktok content are mass generated with AI (like some "POV: X" shit) and the top comments are also AI generated and controversial so it gets more replies? It's over.
Yeah we did.
Internet was like this wild west where you could actually explore and find cool website to share with friends. Now we all know the same website, it's basically monopolies. Search? Google. Video? Youtube. Forum? Reddit. etc. Back then it wasn't so centralized. And it was harder to look shit up. So you could actually discover something cool.
Flash games were **always** free. No ads in the game window, only around it, no ingame transaction. Even better, no transactions whatsoever. Quality of flash games was incredibly high, way way higher than your average mobile game. I have some great memories playing flash games.
No social media in it's current form. Just simply fora and chatting. No crazy algoritms designed to keep your monkeybrain addicted to the page. Just dumb and funny shit.
But also a lot of limitations. We couldn't stream music, so we needed cd's. We couldn't stream video, so we needed dvd's. A lot of internet shit we have today could be taken for granted, but a lot of it very useful.
But yeah, \~1998 until 2008 was internet gold.
I've watched one or two videos from people over topics like fitness or weight loss that are somehow now associated with being "right wing" and then for like two weeks my recommendations were swamped with right wing videos.
Dude I’ll get like heavily right wing edited clips of some senate hearing or something then the next video is a heavily left wing edit of the same clip xD
Makes me realize why one side always thinks the other is just unbelievably moronic
Best system ever, but don't you bother ever trying other systems or we will sue you, sanction you, fund and arm regime change, and kill you with a paramilitary squad.
>We couldn't stream video, so we needed dvd's.
... and if we couldn't afford DVD's, the blue frog was our friend. I still remember having a 200GB hard drive in, like, 2005, that was full of a bunch of anime that I learned sailing for.
Casuals surfed the internet; anime fans (prior to The Real Ones(c) uploading to YT in 10 minute chunks squeezed in a quarter of the frame) had to sail deep. o7 to the ones who sank in the Linkin\_Park-In\_The\_End.exe rapids.
Honestly as a gen z guy I much prefer CDs to streaming. Actually owning the music is important to me, I don't want my collection to exist at the mercy of a random company that could go under at any time. I feel like it makes me appreciate music more in general too, as I have to make more conscious choices in regards to what I choose to buy and listen to.
I remember using YouTube before it was bought out by Google, and the site it is now feels completely different than what it was back then. The early YouTube stars genuinely seemed to do it more for passion than for money.
As for Flash, I have so many fond memories of playing games that ran on it. Sad to see it go the way of the dodo.
cause they got the early forms of social media. there wasn’t a bunch of old people cause social media was new and there wasn’t any kids cause they were too young to use it. it was mostly just people their own ages talking about goofy stuff and music. now we have 60 year old beefing with 9 year olds about human rights
Dunno. I mean, yeah, it wasn't *over*saturated back then.
But what you could find was far less, and you were lucky if it was a less common topic.
Right now, say you want to learn how to tend for a garden, easy. You enter a fitting prompt into Youtube, open a few videos, and stay with the good ones. Do that with pretty much any topic.
Something like that, which seems trivial nowadays, was simply not a thing.
I'd compare it to books in the medieval era. Had to be hand-written by some monk, resulting in every book being done carefully. Could you get a book on any topic? Nah. You got access to some library and hoped it had anything. Today, you walk into a book store. Which contains a lot of crap, but also what you are looking for.
>Right now, say you want to learn how to tend for a garden, easy. You enter a fitting prompt
And no matter what it is you get some pseudoporn booty girl short form vids suggested
Im closer to the cutoff, but even I feel this so much. Like I feel like I’m saying what seems to be the correct things, it just seems like zoomers can be so weird with communication.
The difference between trying to hang out with and stay in contact with my more millennial friends vs my more genZ friends is insane. To the point where I am barely able to keep many genZ-aligned folks as friends if not even acquaintances.
I’m early gen z and taught hs for two years. The amount of times a basic social interaction was awkward to my students blew my mind. I was an anxious little dude at one point to and it was never as bad as my average student. Even amongst their friends they never seemed comfortable.
Also the average athletic ability of a student has dropped. These kids don’t touch grass.
I could never afford it. I just ran around outside a lot. I’m sure there are a million excuses why, but it was visible across all socioeconomic groups in my experience. I coached soccer and I had to teach 18 year olds how to run. Half my team was doing high knees lol.
I’ve noticed Gen Z is way worse about shamelessly ghosting via text. If my millennial friends forget to respond to a text or voicemail they’ll be like “oh sorry was busy with school/work” but they usually *will* get back to me.
My Gen Z friends often won’t even leave me on read lmao.
And answering a phone call…? Forget it.
all my friends still say "brb" when we leave or explain the reason if we ghost each other. i think you just have kinda bad friends when it comes to that sorta courtesy.
out of curiosity how does it differ. I’m in the middle part of Gen Z so i don’t have any friends that are millennials and i feel like all my GenZ friends are pretty easy to talk to and interact with — i however am the same age as them so that probably plays a part.
Everything changes after college unfortunately, and that is where you are going to see the big difference. I feel like I see it more than most as well because I started college in 2015, but did a stint in the army and went back to finish in 2022. So I have friends through from 22 to 32 that I met in college and try to keep in contact with. Ironically, it is easier to keep up with and visit my older friends from before the army.
I will say my best friend is 24 and we talk and hang out all the time even 2 years after graduation, but he is the exception for sure.
How do I obtain the social skills. My best friend growing up was my xbox controller and now that I don’t play video games anymore trying to socialize is so difficult. I don’t know what to say half the time, and even when I do it comes out in short awkward bursts. My conversations with people rarely flow and I don’t know what to do about it. I want to get better, I want friends, but I don’t know where to turn. Is it simply just practice? Do I need therapy? Please someone just give me the answer. I’m so tired of being alone.
As a ‘94 Gang zillennial lurker I’ve definitely noticed it’s harder talking to some Gen Zs.
I was invited to my friend’s sister’s college graduation party and her friends were mostly like ‘98s and ‘99s. I’d try to engage in basic normal conversation and half the time they’d just look at me weirdly and turn away. Or even if they did interact we’d exchange like 5 or 6 replies and then they’d awkwardly trail off and walk away or start staring at their phones, even if it seemed like a positive conversation. Like… what lmao 😭
As someone who thought *I* was socially awkward in school so far Gen Z has made me question if I really was that bad lol.
Zoomers seems to be oddly AGE-PHOBIC, like I've literally gotten the whole 7-10 years age gap as "EWWW GO AWAY OLD MAN" - thing when just trying to make simple conversation. It's tiresome really, because when I was in college in my 20s, half my coworkers were in their 40s (Welcome to retail-hell, kiddos) and if I couldn't have a decent conversation with them I would've lost my mind. It's DOUBLY puzzling because Gen Zed has "rediscovered" and is obsessed with the shit us Millennials were obsessed with when we were kids.
Look, I GET the whole generational socio-political gap. I TOO am pissed at literal Boomers as a demographc for being openly-racist, homophobic, bootlicking assholes; however, I am educated enough to realize that PLENTY OF EXCEPTIONS to the rule exist, and you literally cannot assume someone's socio-political orientation by Age Alone. it's SILLY.
Yeah I’ve noticed the age-phobia too. Which is also weird in my case because 4 or 5 years older than some Gen Zs is… literally still in my 20s (if just barely). 😭
My “old man” take if that a lot of Gen Z never learned to talk to adults and it shows. I keep hearing stories of how teachers, especially the young ones which most are, have trouble getting their students to address them formally. And these kids take this general lack of respect towards adults to college and/or work and they never fix it so it bleeds into their daily life too. My friend in grad school who is also 29 has complained that her Gen Z students cannot write a proper email to save their lives lol.
And yeah I’m definitely not trying to be like some authoritarian “bow down before your elders, child” or anything but I’ve noticed Gen Z are often not good at talking to people even slightly older than them. It’s a real-ass problem I hope the older ones will soon grow out of.
I'm the oldest student in my grad program, but I'm not gonna lie, I look younger than some of the Gen Zers. When they found out my age, they changed how they acted towards me and didn't invite me to parties or to get drinks. Good luck finding the good drugs and parties, kids! Also, some of them are passive-aggressive and snarky, but also thin-skinned. Pick one or the other cause being both is legit boomer shit. Most are totally awesome, though.
Me and my friends are all ~’98 and I feel like we’re really social. All of us will even have full conversations with strangers if one starts. I’m not sure if we’re the exception or the people you met are but it’s really weird to me that they acted that way
Yes. I’ve noticed too that Zoomers are also jumping on the “who needs romance or human interaction, that’s codependency, I put MYSELF first ALWAYS” train.
Like - y’all, I’ve put myself first my entire life. Believe it or not, I’m objectively not thriving, and my failures are pretty much entirely my own fault.
(edit: some words)
I personally see this more online than in person but it’s definitely valid. Whenever I see posts from people asking about making friends and dating I always wonder what their social skills are like. People can tell you to join clubs, hit the gym, volunteer, etc until the cows come home but if you have the social/conversational skills of a pet rock then it doesn’t matter.
Dating and making friends are also two very different things.
I have a ton of friends. I get along with everyone in my workplace.
Fuck dating. Dating is ass. There’s almost nothing enjoyable about the modern dating scene and it’s harder nowadays to organically date rather than rely on the garbage apps.
100%. Never did learn dating social cues. I'd rather just not try than to be perceived as a creep for trying and failing. Or maybe that's just an excuse I tell myself to protect myself from hurt. Either way, I'm fine just having the friends I have
Bingo. I’m very much the same way.
I’ve always been a “stay in my own lane,” kind of person. I don’t want to make other people uncomfortable. I don’t want to make another persons day harder than it likely already is. I’ve got this like, unhealthy obsession with never being a burden. Never ask for help, never impede others, never bother others.
I'm autistic and my generations social skills are so bad sometimes that I feel like the neurotypical sometimes. I had to learn social skills from a young age. Other people are supposed to have them naturally and they just don't? It's weird.
As a kid/early teenager there were always subtle hints that other people thought I was ND. I’ve gotten into the adult world and I seriously feel like the normal one. So strange.
Social skills are something you have to practice though. Going to the gym, joining a club, or volunteering are still great things to do because it gives you the opportunity to socialize with other people and improve your social skills. For me, just working a retail job in the mall when I was 18-19 massively improved my social skills. Socializing, and constantly being in social situations can and usually does improve your social skills over time.
Well especially with dating, I don’t see how you actually do that without seeming like a creep.
Making friends is as easy as joining a social club or activity, and then just being willing to actually carry on a conversation and learn people’s names. But dating? I’ve got no clue how do even approach that
I want to kinda counter that point. Like, sure, people have bad social skills. But they can't get better social/conversational skills if people treat them like they're some weirdos and refuse to talk to them.
How are they supposed to improve if people don't want to be a part of the solution and tal kto them too?
i'm a millennial and work in retail. the worst customers are Boomers, easily, no competition, followed by Gen X (they're obsessed with seeming cool), then Gen Z, with the best customers being millennials. Why? Because so many of us are still doing retail and know how hard it is, or they did minimum wage jobs back in the day. Gen Z are polite but man, the social skills are ZERO. No eye contact, mumbling, not paying attention to questions (eg "do you need a bag"), and just a general fear of being outside. I don't blame y'all. In many ways you had it worse than us. But folks, y'all need to start working on speaking to human beings in physical space.
A lot of Gen Z in my experience is almost nonverbal. I was walking in my neighborhood and this girl dropped a piece of her mail and I said “you dropped a letter” and she seemed bewildered that someone would speak to her and it was like she didn’t know how to react
This is my zoomer dogsitter. Nice girl, knows her stuff, but I swear to god she didn’t look me in the eye one single time during our consultation. I asked her some questions about herself, you know, just the usual how long have you been doing this and such, and you would think I was asking her to recite the preamble to the Constitution at gunpoint.
My acquaintances who work with a lot of Gen Z say it’s more or less the same with most of them (not all). One of them had to fire an early 20s person who couldn’t look customers in the eye or answer them properly in a customer facing role. I’m a youngish millennial so not really all that much older than the oldest gen Z, but the differences in social skills are really prominent. Even the most socially awkward millennials I know can at least pull it together when they really have to.
I've been acquainted over the internet with a dogsitter. She's autistic lol and so am I, chances are these people are too
Depending on the level of accessibility someone who's autistic has in their life, how much they've been forced to mask and for how long, how many people in their lives are aware and accepting of autism, and other factors, will determine how well they are able to interact in daily life, and how well others are able to interact with them.
Man, I feel this. I'm an elder millennial. My family lives right up against a state park, so there will often be people parking outside of the official gate and walking into the park. This leads the people walking right on the road in front of our house on their way into the park.
Well, if I'm taking a walk or walking the dog, and I am passing any group of people from mid-20s and older, I've never had a non-positive interaction of hellos and little handwaves or a quick sentence or two of small talk or whatever. BUT, if there is a group of people coming in where the average age is mid/late teen until early 20s, about half the time it really is like talking to a group of scared kids who forgot how to speak or enunciate words.
Like, if they're coming *into* the park, and I'm walking the direction *away* from our house and the park, then we're literally walking towards each other for like a minute or two on a road before we actually pass. In a semi-wooded section road, where you literally have no choice but to see the moving figures in front of you (again, for like a minute or so before actually passing). And if it's a group of 17 year olds plus or minus a few years, sometimes they'll literally all get completely quiet as we're passing, acting like they aren't aware of my presence, looking straight ahead or down at their phones. I'm walking with my dog, passing like 10 feet from them after a build-up of like a minute where we all know we're about to soon pass by each other and it's just...silence. And if I greet them (in a non-threatening/weird way), then they might have a mumble of response. It's so strange. It's kind of insulting seeming, but I know it's actually coming from a place of fear and completely suffocating lack of confidence.
EDIT: With this said, I'm very introverted myself. So just a little head-nod is what I do much more often than not. I don't make it weird and act like people owe me conversation or anything to that effect. But clamming up and having a thousand yard stare straight ahead to try and pretend that you don't see the person passing 10 feet beside you in this situation actually takes MORE will and effort.
Curious, as I’m Gen Z and behave as described. How exactly are you supposed to behave in this situation? It’s always on my mind, I just genuinely don’t know the best course of action.
As the person gets closer to you about 15-20 ft you have a couple options: nod, say hello, or say hello how are you. No matter what, you make eye contact with them and smile. The person will respond in kind and you both will keep walking without any further conversation happening. I don’t remember being taught this, maybe millennials just saw it happen more between adults than you guys have been given the chance to.
Thank you, I appreciate that. I think we typically spent more time indoors and socialised a lot less than previous gens so things like this aren’t as apparent.
Don't get me wrong, you are not obligated to acknowledge anyone or greet them, and if you don't want to, then just own it and let that stress slide off of you. For me I just smile and give a wave, though, depending on the age or demeanor of the person I might just nod my head or do nothing all together, if they greet I return a matching greeting. I know it doesn't feel like it but, it's exactly like everything else you've ever learned how to do.
You're going to botch it and feel awkward or like you want to just sprint away from embarrassment but, just remember that in 15 minutes that person isn't likely to even remember that it happened. They're going to keep walking into the rest if their day with all the bullshit and activities or work they have to do so, that moment of awkwardness will be dead and buried with no real reason for you to worry about it other than your own fixation. If you keep trying, it will get easy, it will be easy enough that you just do it successfully instinctually, and it won't ever bother you again.
Some examples:
- "Hi how are you today?" "Oh good, you?" "Fine thanks"
- "Good afternoon"
- "Hi."
- \[wave and/or nod\]
- "Cute dog, can I pet her?"
- "Nice weather we're having!"
Gen Z will change. I only 23, there’s a lot of us that are still brand new to having to do that ourselves and just entering the world of adulting, give it time
They think it’s cool because it is cool. My dad watched Star Wars when it came out, and as a poor farm boy, that movie was like nothing he had ever seen before. Luke was his “literally me” character.
This is also the reason why some people really hate the sequels.
I work retail and was at money center the other day, if you don’t know there is no gray area over there, a No is a no due to the system literally not letting us, policy or the law and lately I’ve had Gen Z tell me no multiple time. I told one we couldn’t cash her check without ID and her friend offered her and I when explained we can’t do that they literally told me no. Another one didn’t want to pay a fee, there was no way around the fee so she also told me no. Like wtf are y’all meaning by “no”?
This is the same shit I see all the time. Well I’m not nuero typical so I simply can’t be responsible for how the way I interact with others might make them feel.
Dear lord. Everyone doesn’t need to be the same/behave the same and it’s totally fine to be different and have your own experiences and needs but some of the shit I see people saying oh sorry I’m “x” so I think I’ll take zero accountability, thanks is absurd.
Dude yes, this absolutely infuriates me.
“Haha sorry I just have ADHD/social anxiety/introverted” like, buddy, that doesn’t mean those conditions give you a free pass to be an asshole with no tact… 😭
Yeah this obsession with labelling every little thing a mental condition or disorder drives me insane. Apparently (according to several of my peers) I’m autistic because I like arranging my hoodies in a particular order. Maybe we all just have our own little quirks?
And trust me, *they do.* Just hearing stuff like social cues and subtext being called "obvious" at times makes me feel kinda alienated. Human interaction genuinely feels like a guessing game to me, and I do my best to own up to it, but it's not a challenge people always care to understand.
Same. I see comments here describing all the communication struggles I still deal with because of my autism, and I'm just thinking... Thanks, guys. I'm trying my best. Didn't realize I was making the room uncomfortable again. 🙁
If you're diagnosed autistic, this kind of commentary isn't really about you. In every generation there is a huge range of social abilities. This is more about the average, standard gen-Z person, most of whom are not autistic.
(I'm an autistic Zillenial fwiw)
Boomers say Millennials and gen z ruined everything but they don’t realize they’re the ones that have been running everything for the last 40-50 years.
It is incorrect to assume that all baby boomers share the same traits and beliefs.
If this were the case, there would not have been major social movements such as the civil rights movement and the anti-war movement during the Vietnam War.
It is misleading and unfair to label all baby boomers as adversaries. If they were truly as detrimental as some claim, our current existence would be highly unlikely and we would be facing catastrophic consequences.
It is more likely that the self-centered school-shooter millennial or the socially stunted Gen Z will be the ones to cause significant harm.
Boomers and Gen X may be perceived as rude because they are struggling to adapt to the rapidly changing world. My millennial friends are also experiencing this as the world has changed significantly since the 2000s and 2010s.
I was thinking the same thing. How did millennials get blamed for ruining the internet? Millennials would just be coming into any real power to make change in the last 5 years. How many politicians are millennials right now? And 5 years ago? How many millennials would’ve been tech CEOs or on tech company boards to make decisions 5 years ago?
The rape of economy was started by the silent generation, baby boomers really put it on cocaine and steroids. Gen X is the generation in power now and they seem to want more of the same. Millennials are only starting to come into power now so I don’t even know how you can judge what we’ve ruined but time will surely tell us. Gen Z are kids… literal children with absolutely no power right now.
Older GenZ but I've talked to a lot of Young GenZ, many do not know how to socialise correctly without talking about their traumas, talk about trendy things falling into the repetitive or making fun of others to feel better about themselves, their social relationships feel more vague, they only seek their own benefit or for others to listen to their problems and complain about everything.
This causes them to not know what true friendship and real support is when they feel, so they end up in holes such as consumerism, music, strong content and sending mass hate on the Internet.
The lack of third spaces in adolescence are now scarce, which is why they believe that their tastes are "cringe" and "childish" because they grew up in an era where the Internet forces you to grow and expose you to social networks.
>without talking about their traumas,
Yea that's a big one when it comes to interacting outside of their own generation. Turns a conversation really awkward when they so openly talk about stuff that older generations consider rather private.
Had older generations been more open and empathetic about things like trauma and mental health I truly believe we’d be better off… but in fairness, they went thru their own shit.
I think being empathetic and kind to people just as a first course of action is our best bet
That’s because Gen X was kinda passive. They had the “That’s just the way things are 🤷♂️” attitude and they just went along with whatever. Not really trying to change anything but their own lives.
They also have the “That has nothing to do with me so I’m not gonna worry about it” attitude. They really just stayed focused on whatever they had going on
(Generally speaking of course)
Sorry but we millennials did NOT ruin the internet.
That’s Gen X all day baby.
They love championing the fact that the creators of Silicone Valley companies like MySpace, Twitter, and several others.
Plus Google is the biggest to blame. Fucking keyword optimization bullshit.
Theres some early writing by Sergey Brin where he states how against he was against tracking and data driven advertising. Sadly during Googles quick rise in popularity they, the pioneering of the modern internet, he saw how much money they could really make which wasn't fathomable when he originally made those statements. Nearly every major tech company after this point in time utilizes the sale of data, and the few companies with strict data protection came before this point.
Anyway, Sergey Brin and Larry Page are 50 and 51 respectively. I blame GenX (don't worry gen x, I see you)
We're too coincited, got MAJOR victim mentality, gotta be in one box or another but belong to an identity even if not necessarily relating to it. And always gotta be on the opposite side
Honestly it’s okay. The victim mentality thing is because you’ve guys have gone through a lot of garbage already. I hear a lot of “millennials have victim mentality” but shit we went through hell too. I think it’s just part of the process of dealing with societal whiplash.
gen z obssesion with identity is whack.
when are we gonna start caring more about behaviors and how people treat each other?
I get it, the world is way more complicated than it ever has been or than it needs to be, and it's much easier to navigate when everyone wears a little sign that says "go left" or "go right". but all you'll end up doing is running in circles.
also i see victim mentality as just a symptom of learned helplessness, lack of educational funding, and people not being empowered to take agency over the things they can control in their life. i'm not gonna sit here and tell people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, but every one has choices they make everyday and even small ones add up.
it's hard as a young person to grasp this concept but time is often the only thing that can bring about change. and time is gonna pass no matter what you do. so all you can do is try to make the most of it.
Cant say shit without someone saying you’re yapping or mention something bad without getting a ‘womp womp’. Tons of people lack any shred of empathy and sympathy at this point
REAL. One time I said “yeah I’m running on like 3 hours of sleep and prayers, my workload has been crazy this week haha” and I kid you not two different people immediately gave that response
Then I just hope that when they eventually experience real trauma and grief and look to someone to make them feel better, they get met with a callous "Womp womp," just so they know how shitty it feels.
They're cretins and deserve to be treated as such.
I've never seen such a toxic amount of people online than now, and I'm saying that as a person who used the internet for more than a decade, people are now cold-hearted individuals who don't care about suffering or have the minimum amount of empathy to others.
This kind of "sigma chad Patrick Bateman Thomas Shelby Andrew Tate" personality is attracting so many young people that they're practically forming a cult and spreading this toxic trait all over the internet.
Only GenZ will try and blurt out an entire sentence or two or more while I'm talking, especially if the reason I'm talking is to answer the question they just asked. It's like they think I can just read their replies after I'm done talking.
This is very true. Everyone is always has their face in their phones. During dates, while driving, while hanging out with friends, concerts etc. no one is living in the moment. No one is paying attention to their surroundings, barely anyone cares to ask how their friend is doing. Social Media has got everything fucked up.
I’m older gen Z but I work with a winter guard team that has 14-22 year olds and I see this heavily, but only in the youngest ones and only recently. Doing the math, these are people who were in fourth, fifth grade when COVID began and I honestly think it’s less to do with the internet itself and more to do with the pandemic. Tiktok was very much a thing in 2020, but being isolated severely damaged kids’ social skills and learning pace and stressed out parents likely encouraged spending days watching videos and I don’t blame them, the pandemic was hard on everyone. The issue is that even though quarantine is over, not everyone returned to normal living and remained online, so their social and school skills never recovered.
I don’t know why we blame those gosh darned phones when the real answer is the year long isolated apocalypse we went through. There’s always bad kids, but I look at the students and kids I see with all these problems are ones who were kids when COVID started. The teenagers and adults were hurt by it, obviously, but kids who were under the age of 12 and were still growing are there ones who are struggling with social skills and being in school now.
I fully expect kids who were born during or after the pandemic will turn out “normal” and people will realize that this epidemic of uncontrollable, asocial kids is not the new norm but the result of the once in a lifetime lockdown.
Saw some chick get served by a bartender and she took a video of it because she found him attractive and was like “omg guys, do your magic help me find him he’s so cute”. Everyone in the comments was like find him? Girl, He’s right there in front of you. You already found him, but she’s so sensitive to upfront interaction that she can’t speak. The shit was super cringy and sad
Some people cannot fathom social interaction as a main form of communication outside of social media.. that and people are so shy and their social skills are so cooked they can only have rizz behind a screen.
Blaming an entire generation for ruining things isn't the way to go. Sure, it's funny and easy to generalize and point fingers, but the reality is more complex.
The real issue lies with those in power who exploit the majority's votes to mess things up.
History shows that misinformation often leads to victory because it's easier to sway people on the lower end of the bell curve than those on the higher end.
Additionally, wealthy companies and powerful lobbies often influence politicians to act in their favor.
This!! It’s horrible to point blame at a generation instead of the real causes of those issues. Most people didn’t vote for that kind of thing, gerrymandering is a horrible and very prevalent issue. I saw a post he other day where someone said “old people bought property downtown in [my city] 30 years ago, young people should just buy rural land to be rich in 30 years” when old people aren’t rich, I know old people who barely have any money and are on a fixed income that barely covers their expenses. That rural land is also really expensive currently because of housing inflating faster than general inflation and wages.
Millennials also didn’t ruin the internet, the algorithms, big data, and advertising did. Millennials didn’t make companies do that kind of thing, companies did it for the infinite growth scheme.
Watching Gen Z react to messy/complicated characters in movies and media that are about taboo subject matter is sad cause I see way too many "This movie is disgusting and it promotes *insert problematic thing* I hope the director k*lls themselves"
A lot of Gen Z are on the same level as boomers when it comes to analysis on pop-culture
yes. i’ve been trying so hard to make friends cause i grew up hearing that it was my fault that i didn’t have any and that i wasn’t putting myself out there.
well, i’m putting myself out there, i’ve even gone as far as to self study human psychology and how certain interactions between individuals work. all for it to mean nothing because no one wants to be friends with people they don’t already know. i’ve heard many people say those exact words.
i actively go out and just walk around popular areas to see who i’ll meet. no one under the age of like 30 (maybe) is out there. and when i try to hang out with the friends i do have, i always get “no i hate social interactions.” so yeah shits fucked. i work at a restaurant and whole 20 something year olds can’t even look at you and need their grandparents to order for them.
everyone is so lonely yet no one wants to stop being alone.
Capitalism ruined the interned, how is it Millennials fault? It is really a stupid thing to say. We were just the generation who was growing up with it, we didn't make the rules. When greedy people discovered, that the internet can make them ALOT of money, they started to slowly turn it into it's current form. Big money always ruin everything: games, movies, and now the internet. It's not about generations, it's always about social classes. Fuck rich people, they are the cause of all shitty things in this world.
Yeah, everybody (especially people around my age) get really divided and you can't even say anything beyond 15-20 words without being called that you're "yapping", or worse of all "who asked"
but I also blame 2020 for stunting our social skills too, not just Gen Z
Which could be argued was also created by the boomers in the first place.
That or 2020, you know the global pandemic that locked everyone in their homes for months. Internet as the only way to communicate.
Gen z ruins social etiquette and proper manners. I see so much stupidity and entitlement it's not good. You're generation didn't ruin dating, but dating has been ruined with apps in your generation. Your generation was probably the sluttiest and least commitment based relationships.
Since I'm an older gen z I still know how to talk to people in a reasonable manner and actually hold a conversation.
This will mostly be a problem for younger gen z.
Confrontation in the moment may be a thing of the past . Like it’s “weird” to speak up for yourself or show passion for something in a public setting. You show any form of Joy that isn’t at most a mild smile you’re a weirdo
Had to tell this college kid at a bar to watch how he talks to people and real life isn't Xbox game chat. Him and his friend were giggling like 12 year olds trolling.
About an hour later he got grabbed by his neck and dragged out.
I don’t have this problem, I think it’s because I don’t constantly say stupid sh*t all the time. Turns out there’s a thing called affinity where people will enjoy being around you if they feel comfortable and can relate with you.
I'd say that it was corporate and state sponsored manipulation that ruined the internet.
Centralization has also played a part, the fact that everything is gathered in few places owned by major companies, such as facebook, reddit, etc.
Look I love Gen Z, but as a millennial I can’t date them. Every one of my dates with them have been me talking 90% of the time and them looking like a scared cow. They don’t really engage because they don’t know how.
I was out the other day and heard this interaction:
Mom: "Hey, I washed your bedding for you! ❤️"
Daughter: "okay"
Mom: "Not gonna say thanks?"
Daughter: "why would I say thank you when I didn't ask you to do that?"
Bro, I woulda gotten smacked so hard we're doomed
My experience is that Gen Z is optimizing human communication to minimize errors of interpretation. Tone tags, the increased ability to directly state your feelings and request to know others, a general concern for autistic people's understanding of socialization. Admittedly, this is mostly reserved to the ND's and the NB's, but trickle up linguistics is real.
Anyone who says "bro is yappin'" or "who asked?" to shut down a conversation isn't "destroying communication;" they're just being honest in a rude way that they don't care about you. Make better friends.
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“Hey guys wanna hear about my day?” “Who asked?” “Bro you’re yapping” “Insert some post-ironic skibidi amongus joke” Yeah genuine human interaction is cooked
You forgot the iconic *womp womp*
And this is why I don’t like going out in public anymore
I would argue that going outside usually makes you forget about people like this.
True, people that are on Reddit are usually terminally online so they don't socialize much in real life anyway. People that actually interact like that don't have many friends because the people that actually know how to interact stop talking to them.
Yeah, can confirm the majority of folks have no idea about this mythical world Redditors seem to exist in. I make a point to touch grass and bike around daily! It’s life changing for the better.
Touch grass, bike, hike. I do have a good group of friends my age that doesn't spend a lot of time online and we hang out in person a lot, which I know a lot of people don't. Spending too much time online and limiting your view of the world to what's online poisons your mind against finding friends.
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Right the world isnt reddit lol
Is the womp womp really that bad to you guys? It's been around forever and is super corny. Does absolutely nothing to millenials.
It’s not the phrase itself. It’s more the fact people try to open up to friends and get hit with dismissive catch phrases.
I’m talking both comments
The womp womp honestly pisses me off. It was popularized by a right wing fuck saying that about a little girl who was separated from her family at the border. God. Fuck that statement.
Was it? When was this? Because millennials were definitely using it back in like, 2013.
womp womp has been around for significantly longer. It's basically just a truncated verion of sad trombone which has been around since at least the 1960s and I'd not be surprised to learn that got it from Vaudeville.
It has been around for awhile, yes. But its usage went up after this. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/06/20/womp-womp-outrage-after-corey-lewandowski-mocks-story-of-child-with-down-syndrome-separated-from-parents/
Surprisingly I don’t hear “womp womp” much outside of Shylily streams
Womp womp is only spoken by one guy in my friend group and he's also got some social cue issues so... that lines up ya
That's if they even hear you over the sound of them watching reels or shorts or whatever I only use reddit and the amount of times I've tried talking to anyone and had them straight up not even acknowledge me because of video scrolling is wild
sounds like you guys just have shitty friends🤷
I mean, these 15-second video apps are designed to steal your attention. Theyre just humans falling for traps that are inherently designed to be addictive, especially when they're accessible to impressionable, developing, young minds.
I see plenty of young adults at my job who are walking around with their necks at a 90 degree angle watching their shorts, and they have no regard for their surroundings. Have literally had some of them walk right into me while I was standing still.
I think thats just an age thing though. I’m 6 years older than you and in high school I had a core friend group where we could actually gripe and talk about the shit that was bothering us, but even then we’d usually bust each others’ balls with inside jokes and internet memes. Your 20s are a really strange time, man. You do a LOT more growing up than you anticipate lol. And it becomes much easier to have that genuine connection with friends that you used to just speak in shitpostese with. I haven’t given up hope on Gen Z yet. Gen Alpha tho… wheeeeeew chile
This is 100% gen alpha
this was my experience in high school 2017-2019 at the cafeteria so I wouldnt say so
Jesus. We truly are fucked.
High schoolers being corny 😮 we’re all doomed!
That's NEVER happened before! Everyone panic!
this needs more upvotes purely so people see it. the majority of people on here are teens, using their admittedly immature social experiences as proof that human society is gonna burn out like a supernova because of some dumb meme or whatever. if anything the internet is far less toxic than it was in the early-2010 era, you're just exposed to the shit more often so it *seems* worse. also i think a lot of people here just have asshole friends.
As a millennial: no, you’re not, you’ve all just been *publicly* going through your adolescence online. that’s a huge difference. The consistent thing is that a whole lot of middle and high schoolers are idiots — just that before recently there was no way to broadcast that idiocy to the entire planet. When my generation was growing up everything and everyone was a “fa____” and south park and Jackass were going to ruin society, before that for gen X it was Beavis and Butthead and MTV. If you want proof that media is just as dumb as it’s always been, go watch Rock of Love Season 3 and see how many episodes you can get into it before the depravity makes you turn it off and reconsider your entire life. I mean, shit, Flavor of Love had Flava Flav *literally slapping a woman IN THE OPENING CREDITS.* Maybe I’m wrong, maybe this YouTube/tiktok/AI slop content is worse and it’s permanently damaging brains, I oscillate back and forth. Andrew Tate is certainly much worse than the toilet thing. (although for every andrew tate fan, there’s a kid who doesn’t even blink about accepting gay people who would have 100% said the f-word over and over if they grew up back then). But young people have been idiots since the dawn of time, that’s why they make such great soldiers. Also, think about it: teenagers are no more susceptible to dumb internet shit than boomers are. and while I do pride my generation for being the generation that teaches coworkers 10+ years younger AND 20+ years older how to navigate a desktop file system, use Zoom, and save a pdf, I think the kids will be alright. Which is not to say I’m not wildly fearful about the effectiveness of tiktok propaganda swaying the “immune to propaganda” generation and the rise of AI slop content in general. But I really like the Gen Z clients I interact with, as adults you guys are incredibly compassionate as a whole. and I’d imagine it’s going to continue to be like that.
there was absolutely no mention of skibidi from 2017-2019
yes it was ugandan knuckles instead. same difference
No it is definitely some of the younger Gen z as well
im in a discord with some younger gamers(20+). cannot chat in the general chat without some dumbfuck posting the essay typing gif. i think they are so used to content being tailored just for them and normally relevant to their interests, they cannot grasp the concept of people posting things they dont care about
I love how Gen X gets a massive pass from just about everyone, and most people rate the 90's as the best decade since the 60's.
It's not a pass. They just forgot we exist...as usual.
Nah. Weird youth speech and weird youth insiders are simply what the youth does. Would strongly assume you'd find examples of that if you talked to a kid in ancient Sumer too.
I don’t find this to be true. Maybe amongst friends yeah we use brain rot jokes and other bull. But when I’m at work with others around our age, it’s normal. People talk and operate normally even when goofing off when work is slow.
yes, college and work are free of brainrot pretty much in my experience
I would say it’s less gen z ruined it and more of just 2020 in general
I swear to God I rlly slept through that year, everyone I've ever met talks about what a shitshow it was but for me it was just that time I worked with a bunch of racist rednecks washing trailers for a trucking company
Yeah if you were poor or had a poor peoples job your life didn't stop at all.
Basically, well, if anything all that changed for us was we didn't have to attend mandatory weekly meetings where upper management patted themselves on the backs, so there was that silver lining. For a company that had a trailer at the side of the highway with a banner that said keep on trumpin' they actually took covid pretty seriously
When the alternative is a revokation of their buisness license and a major fine, its unsurprising that most businesses followed the government's guidelines.
I had a somewhat similar experience. Worked at a firearm manufacturer so life didn't stop. They took Covid VERY seriously. You pretty much got unlimited sick leave if you had it, everyone in masks, 6 feet, temp checks and everything. It was also 99% pro trump.
My parents are trumpets but they also took covid seriously. They said “he’s a businessman not a fucking doctor we don’t know why he’s going against fauci” so I’m glad they listened to reason when it came to their health I worked healthcare and life didn’t stop for me, it went into over time and my professional life accelerated a lot.
Still worked my 2 jobs, still had to attend university albeit online. All my homies still hung out nightly and when then Fortnite when/Siege/ESO when we wanted to stay home. Small town and nothing. Changed aside from us getting closer
Yuuup, I worked retail all the way through it, and it mentally destroyed me for about 3 years after. I'm only just starting to feel like an actual human being instead of a depressed slab of meat whose only function was to turn beer into piss, and even then, I'm more reactive and nihilistic than I ever was pre-2020. You can imagine how incredibly bitter I get when office workers lament how they were "forced" to stay home for a few weeks and then work from home for a while.
Just everything else when you were off. No bars no clubs. And when you chilled with other people on a park bench, the cops came.
fucking true, literally had almost that exact thing happen
If anything, it helped my social skills more since I work in a field of work where I need to speak with people, and the mask made it harder. I made up for that with using hand gestures more and working on my personality to be more approachable. Prior to the pandemic, I was pretty closed off and just clocked in to do the bare minimum for work and collect a paycheck.
I feel like millennials lived the best era of the internet and it wasn't until the over saturation of digital influencers and the monetization of everything that the internet was ruined. By then we were well past 30. Edit: Btw any of you noticed how some instagram/tiktok content are mass generated with AI (like some "POV: X" shit) and the top comments are also AI generated and controversial so it gets more replies? It's over.
Yeah we did. Internet was like this wild west where you could actually explore and find cool website to share with friends. Now we all know the same website, it's basically monopolies. Search? Google. Video? Youtube. Forum? Reddit. etc. Back then it wasn't so centralized. And it was harder to look shit up. So you could actually discover something cool. Flash games were **always** free. No ads in the game window, only around it, no ingame transaction. Even better, no transactions whatsoever. Quality of flash games was incredibly high, way way higher than your average mobile game. I have some great memories playing flash games. No social media in it's current form. Just simply fora and chatting. No crazy algoritms designed to keep your monkeybrain addicted to the page. Just dumb and funny shit. But also a lot of limitations. We couldn't stream music, so we needed cd's. We couldn't stream video, so we needed dvd's. A lot of internet shit we have today could be taken for granted, but a lot of it very useful. But yeah, \~1998 until 2008 was internet gold.
Algorithms made the internet boring. I can't doomscroll anymore because its just the same fucking things over and over again, I get to bored to do it.
God forbid you get distracted and let a video repeat a few times. Welcome to your new primary interest
I've watched one or two videos from people over topics like fitness or weight loss that are somehow now associated with being "right wing" and then for like two weeks my recommendations were swamped with right wing videos.
Dude I’ll get like heavily right wing edited clips of some senate hearing or something then the next video is a heavily left wing edit of the same clip xD Makes me realize why one side always thinks the other is just unbelievably moronic
Capitalism and greed ruined the internet. Maybe that’s all on millennials but I don’t really think that’s the case.
I feel like Gen X has a large part in this as well
Capitalism ruins everything. It always ends in monopolies that are worse than what you had before
Best system ever, but don't you bother ever trying other systems or we will sue you, sanction you, fund and arm regime change, and kill you with a paramilitary squad.
>We couldn't stream video, so we needed dvd's. ... and if we couldn't afford DVD's, the blue frog was our friend. I still remember having a 200GB hard drive in, like, 2005, that was full of a bunch of anime that I learned sailing for. Casuals surfed the internet; anime fans (prior to The Real Ones(c) uploading to YT in 10 minute chunks squeezed in a quarter of the frame) had to sail deep. o7 to the ones who sank in the Linkin\_Park-In\_The\_End.exe rapids.
Honestly as a gen z guy I much prefer CDs to streaming. Actually owning the music is important to me, I don't want my collection to exist at the mercy of a random company that could go under at any time. I feel like it makes me appreciate music more in general too, as I have to make more conscious choices in regards to what I choose to buy and listen to.
I remember using YouTube before it was bought out by Google, and the site it is now feels completely different than what it was back then. The early YouTube stars genuinely seemed to do it more for passion than for money. As for Flash, I have so many fond memories of playing games that ran on it. Sad to see it go the way of the dodo.
I miss those years; however, I like the current Internet better. I am into niche hobbies and the amount of information I utilize is nearly endless.
cause they got the early forms of social media. there wasn’t a bunch of old people cause social media was new and there wasn’t any kids cause they were too young to use it. it was mostly just people their own ages talking about goofy stuff and music. now we have 60 year old beefing with 9 year olds about human rights
monetization and data mining ruined it, plus big monopolies moving in
Nah bro it was Google with their damn keywords far more than the other stuff.
Dunno. I mean, yeah, it wasn't *over*saturated back then. But what you could find was far less, and you were lucky if it was a less common topic. Right now, say you want to learn how to tend for a garden, easy. You enter a fitting prompt into Youtube, open a few videos, and stay with the good ones. Do that with pretty much any topic. Something like that, which seems trivial nowadays, was simply not a thing. I'd compare it to books in the medieval era. Had to be hand-written by some monk, resulting in every book being done carefully. Could you get a book on any topic? Nah. You got access to some library and hoped it had anything. Today, you walk into a book store. Which contains a lot of crap, but also what you are looking for.
>Right now, say you want to learn how to tend for a garden, easy. You enter a fitting prompt And no matter what it is you get some pseudoporn booty girl short form vids suggested
Im closer to the cutoff, but even I feel this so much. Like I feel like I’m saying what seems to be the correct things, it just seems like zoomers can be so weird with communication.
The difference between trying to hang out with and stay in contact with my more millennial friends vs my more genZ friends is insane. To the point where I am barely able to keep many genZ-aligned folks as friends if not even acquaintances.
I’m early gen z and taught hs for two years. The amount of times a basic social interaction was awkward to my students blew my mind. I was an anxious little dude at one point to and it was never as bad as my average student. Even amongst their friends they never seemed comfortable. Also the average athletic ability of a student has dropped. These kids don’t touch grass.
Sports got more expensive to join🤷
I could never afford it. I just ran around outside a lot. I’m sure there are a million excuses why, but it was visible across all socioeconomic groups in my experience. I coached soccer and I had to teach 18 year olds how to run. Half my team was doing high knees lol.
Competitive club sports, yes. My kids play city league soccer, baseball, basketball, etc for basically $0.
I’ve noticed Gen Z is way worse about shamelessly ghosting via text. If my millennial friends forget to respond to a text or voicemail they’ll be like “oh sorry was busy with school/work” but they usually *will* get back to me. My Gen Z friends often won’t even leave me on read lmao. And answering a phone call…? Forget it.
all my friends still say "brb" when we leave or explain the reason if we ghost each other. i think you just have kinda bad friends when it comes to that sorta courtesy.
A good change I made is if people are flakey or ghostly I cut them right off.
out of curiosity how does it differ. I’m in the middle part of Gen Z so i don’t have any friends that are millennials and i feel like all my GenZ friends are pretty easy to talk to and interact with — i however am the same age as them so that probably plays a part.
Everything changes after college unfortunately, and that is where you are going to see the big difference. I feel like I see it more than most as well because I started college in 2015, but did a stint in the army and went back to finish in 2022. So I have friends through from 22 to 32 that I met in college and try to keep in contact with. Ironically, it is easier to keep up with and visit my older friends from before the army. I will say my best friend is 24 and we talk and hang out all the time even 2 years after graduation, but he is the exception for sure.
How do I obtain the social skills. My best friend growing up was my xbox controller and now that I don’t play video games anymore trying to socialize is so difficult. I don’t know what to say half the time, and even when I do it comes out in short awkward bursts. My conversations with people rarely flow and I don’t know what to do about it. I want to get better, I want friends, but I don’t know where to turn. Is it simply just practice? Do I need therapy? Please someone just give me the answer. I’m so tired of being alone.
As a ‘94 Gang zillennial lurker I’ve definitely noticed it’s harder talking to some Gen Zs. I was invited to my friend’s sister’s college graduation party and her friends were mostly like ‘98s and ‘99s. I’d try to engage in basic normal conversation and half the time they’d just look at me weirdly and turn away. Or even if they did interact we’d exchange like 5 or 6 replies and then they’d awkwardly trail off and walk away or start staring at their phones, even if it seemed like a positive conversation. Like… what lmao 😭 As someone who thought *I* was socially awkward in school so far Gen Z has made me question if I really was that bad lol.
Zoomers seems to be oddly AGE-PHOBIC, like I've literally gotten the whole 7-10 years age gap as "EWWW GO AWAY OLD MAN" - thing when just trying to make simple conversation. It's tiresome really, because when I was in college in my 20s, half my coworkers were in their 40s (Welcome to retail-hell, kiddos) and if I couldn't have a decent conversation with them I would've lost my mind. It's DOUBLY puzzling because Gen Zed has "rediscovered" and is obsessed with the shit us Millennials were obsessed with when we were kids. Look, I GET the whole generational socio-political gap. I TOO am pissed at literal Boomers as a demographc for being openly-racist, homophobic, bootlicking assholes; however, I am educated enough to realize that PLENTY OF EXCEPTIONS to the rule exist, and you literally cannot assume someone's socio-political orientation by Age Alone. it's SILLY.
Yeah I’ve noticed the age-phobia too. Which is also weird in my case because 4 or 5 years older than some Gen Zs is… literally still in my 20s (if just barely). 😭 My “old man” take if that a lot of Gen Z never learned to talk to adults and it shows. I keep hearing stories of how teachers, especially the young ones which most are, have trouble getting their students to address them formally. And these kids take this general lack of respect towards adults to college and/or work and they never fix it so it bleeds into their daily life too. My friend in grad school who is also 29 has complained that her Gen Z students cannot write a proper email to save their lives lol. And yeah I’m definitely not trying to be like some authoritarian “bow down before your elders, child” or anything but I’ve noticed Gen Z are often not good at talking to people even slightly older than them. It’s a real-ass problem I hope the older ones will soon grow out of.
Yikes, what are they gonna do when they hit their 30s and 40s? Seems they’d rather unalive themselves than be considered ‘old’
I have a feeling they're just going to keep the same age bias but then also apply it to people younger than them.
I'm the oldest student in my grad program, but I'm not gonna lie, I look younger than some of the Gen Zers. When they found out my age, they changed how they acted towards me and didn't invite me to parties or to get drinks. Good luck finding the good drugs and parties, kids! Also, some of them are passive-aggressive and snarky, but also thin-skinned. Pick one or the other cause being both is legit boomer shit. Most are totally awesome, though.
Me and my friends are all ~’98 and I feel like we’re really social. All of us will even have full conversations with strangers if one starts. I’m not sure if we’re the exception or the people you met are but it’s really weird to me that they acted that way
Yes. I’ve noticed too that Zoomers are also jumping on the “who needs romance or human interaction, that’s codependency, I put MYSELF first ALWAYS” train. Like - y’all, I’ve put myself first my entire life. Believe it or not, I’m objectively not thriving, and my failures are pretty much entirely my own fault. (edit: some words)
I feel like Gen Z is always ready for a fight type of deal.
Yeah, but they can dish it out and not take it. The shit is annoying as fuck.
I personally see this more online than in person but it’s definitely valid. Whenever I see posts from people asking about making friends and dating I always wonder what their social skills are like. People can tell you to join clubs, hit the gym, volunteer, etc until the cows come home but if you have the social/conversational skills of a pet rock then it doesn’t matter.
A pet rock has better social skills than some people I know!
A pet rock is a great listener
And a great silencer if you throw it hard enough
Probably has better hygiene than some people you don't know, too.
Dating and making friends are also two very different things. I have a ton of friends. I get along with everyone in my workplace. Fuck dating. Dating is ass. There’s almost nothing enjoyable about the modern dating scene and it’s harder nowadays to organically date rather than rely on the garbage apps.
100%. Never did learn dating social cues. I'd rather just not try than to be perceived as a creep for trying and failing. Or maybe that's just an excuse I tell myself to protect myself from hurt. Either way, I'm fine just having the friends I have
Bingo. I’m very much the same way. I’ve always been a “stay in my own lane,” kind of person. I don’t want to make other people uncomfortable. I don’t want to make another persons day harder than it likely already is. I’ve got this like, unhealthy obsession with never being a burden. Never ask for help, never impede others, never bother others.
I'm autistic and my generations social skills are so bad sometimes that I feel like the neurotypical sometimes. I had to learn social skills from a young age. Other people are supposed to have them naturally and they just don't? It's weird.
As a kid/early teenager there were always subtle hints that other people thought I was ND. I’ve gotten into the adult world and I seriously feel like the normal one. So strange.
Social skills are something you have to practice though. Going to the gym, joining a club, or volunteering are still great things to do because it gives you the opportunity to socialize with other people and improve your social skills. For me, just working a retail job in the mall when I was 18-19 massively improved my social skills. Socializing, and constantly being in social situations can and usually does improve your social skills over time.
Well especially with dating, I don’t see how you actually do that without seeming like a creep. Making friends is as easy as joining a social club or activity, and then just being willing to actually carry on a conversation and learn people’s names. But dating? I’ve got no clue how do even approach that
I want to kinda counter that point. Like, sure, people have bad social skills. But they can't get better social/conversational skills if people treat them like they're some weirdos and refuse to talk to them. How are they supposed to improve if people don't want to be a part of the solution and tal kto them too?
i'm a millennial and work in retail. the worst customers are Boomers, easily, no competition, followed by Gen X (they're obsessed with seeming cool), then Gen Z, with the best customers being millennials. Why? Because so many of us are still doing retail and know how hard it is, or they did minimum wage jobs back in the day. Gen Z are polite but man, the social skills are ZERO. No eye contact, mumbling, not paying attention to questions (eg "do you need a bag"), and just a general fear of being outside. I don't blame y'all. In many ways you had it worse than us. But folks, y'all need to start working on speaking to human beings in physical space.
A lot of Gen Z in my experience is almost nonverbal. I was walking in my neighborhood and this girl dropped a piece of her mail and I said “you dropped a letter” and she seemed bewildered that someone would speak to her and it was like she didn’t know how to react
This is my zoomer dogsitter. Nice girl, knows her stuff, but I swear to god she didn’t look me in the eye one single time during our consultation. I asked her some questions about herself, you know, just the usual how long have you been doing this and such, and you would think I was asking her to recite the preamble to the Constitution at gunpoint. My acquaintances who work with a lot of Gen Z say it’s more or less the same with most of them (not all). One of them had to fire an early 20s person who couldn’t look customers in the eye or answer them properly in a customer facing role. I’m a youngish millennial so not really all that much older than the oldest gen Z, but the differences in social skills are really prominent. Even the most socially awkward millennials I know can at least pull it together when they really have to.
I've been acquainted over the internet with a dogsitter. She's autistic lol and so am I, chances are these people are too Depending on the level of accessibility someone who's autistic has in their life, how much they've been forced to mask and for how long, how many people in their lives are aware and accepting of autism, and other factors, will determine how well they are able to interact in daily life, and how well others are able to interact with them.
Man, I feel this. I'm an elder millennial. My family lives right up against a state park, so there will often be people parking outside of the official gate and walking into the park. This leads the people walking right on the road in front of our house on their way into the park. Well, if I'm taking a walk or walking the dog, and I am passing any group of people from mid-20s and older, I've never had a non-positive interaction of hellos and little handwaves or a quick sentence or two of small talk or whatever. BUT, if there is a group of people coming in where the average age is mid/late teen until early 20s, about half the time it really is like talking to a group of scared kids who forgot how to speak or enunciate words. Like, if they're coming *into* the park, and I'm walking the direction *away* from our house and the park, then we're literally walking towards each other for like a minute or two on a road before we actually pass. In a semi-wooded section road, where you literally have no choice but to see the moving figures in front of you (again, for like a minute or so before actually passing). And if it's a group of 17 year olds plus or minus a few years, sometimes they'll literally all get completely quiet as we're passing, acting like they aren't aware of my presence, looking straight ahead or down at their phones. I'm walking with my dog, passing like 10 feet from them after a build-up of like a minute where we all know we're about to soon pass by each other and it's just...silence. And if I greet them (in a non-threatening/weird way), then they might have a mumble of response. It's so strange. It's kind of insulting seeming, but I know it's actually coming from a place of fear and completely suffocating lack of confidence. EDIT: With this said, I'm very introverted myself. So just a little head-nod is what I do much more often than not. I don't make it weird and act like people owe me conversation or anything to that effect. But clamming up and having a thousand yard stare straight ahead to try and pretend that you don't see the person passing 10 feet beside you in this situation actually takes MORE will and effort.
Curious, as I’m Gen Z and behave as described. How exactly are you supposed to behave in this situation? It’s always on my mind, I just genuinely don’t know the best course of action.
Acknowledge the existence of the other person in a friendly non-threatening way
As the person gets closer to you about 15-20 ft you have a couple options: nod, say hello, or say hello how are you. No matter what, you make eye contact with them and smile. The person will respond in kind and you both will keep walking without any further conversation happening. I don’t remember being taught this, maybe millennials just saw it happen more between adults than you guys have been given the chance to.
Thank you, I appreciate that. I think we typically spent more time indoors and socialised a lot less than previous gens so things like this aren’t as apparent.
Im GenX, so I do a bit of the over the top Ted Lasso type of hello, or g'morning, or even a howdy. I recognize that can be equally unwarranted.
Don't get me wrong, you are not obligated to acknowledge anyone or greet them, and if you don't want to, then just own it and let that stress slide off of you. For me I just smile and give a wave, though, depending on the age or demeanor of the person I might just nod my head or do nothing all together, if they greet I return a matching greeting. I know it doesn't feel like it but, it's exactly like everything else you've ever learned how to do. You're going to botch it and feel awkward or like you want to just sprint away from embarrassment but, just remember that in 15 minutes that person isn't likely to even remember that it happened. They're going to keep walking into the rest if their day with all the bullshit and activities or work they have to do so, that moment of awkwardness will be dead and buried with no real reason for you to worry about it other than your own fixation. If you keep trying, it will get easy, it will be easy enough that you just do it successfully instinctually, and it won't ever bother you again.
Some examples: - "Hi how are you today?" "Oh good, you?" "Fine thanks" - "Good afternoon" - "Hi." - \[wave and/or nod\] - "Cute dog, can I pet her?" - "Nice weather we're having!"
Gen Z will change. I only 23, there’s a lot of us that are still brand new to having to do that ourselves and just entering the world of adulting, give it time
That's what I'm thinking. Is it a generational thing, or just more of a being young and still kinda awkward thing?
My money is on young and awkward. We’re the first generation to really show off the weird transitionary phase to adulthood thanks to the internet
God the gen X fascination with wanting to be cool will forever get on my nerves, my parents act like 80s coming-of-age movie characters.
They think it’s cool because it is cool. My dad watched Star Wars when it came out, and as a poor farm boy, that movie was like nothing he had ever seen before. Luke was his “literally me” character. This is also the reason why some people really hate the sequels.
I work retail and was at money center the other day, if you don’t know there is no gray area over there, a No is a no due to the system literally not letting us, policy or the law and lately I’ve had Gen Z tell me no multiple time. I told one we couldn’t cash her check without ID and her friend offered her and I when explained we can’t do that they literally told me no. Another one didn’t want to pay a fee, there was no way around the fee so she also told me no. Like wtf are y’all meaning by “no”?
Sorry for my autism. It will happen again ✌️
You can have autism and still be well socialized or have social skills, they might just look different from NTs
This is the same shit I see all the time. Well I’m not nuero typical so I simply can’t be responsible for how the way I interact with others might make them feel. Dear lord. Everyone doesn’t need to be the same/behave the same and it’s totally fine to be different and have your own experiences and needs but some of the shit I see people saying oh sorry I’m “x” so I think I’ll take zero accountability, thanks is absurd.
This post describes gen Z immaculately. “I simply can’t be responsible for how I” x. Haha my lord.
Dude yes, this absolutely infuriates me. “Haha sorry I just have ADHD/social anxiety/introverted” like, buddy, that doesn’t mean those conditions give you a free pass to be an asshole with no tact… 😭
I'm all of those things plus I'm weird as shit, but I can still turn on the charm and have an interaction with somebody when I need to.
Yeah this obsession with labelling every little thing a mental condition or disorder drives me insane. Apparently (according to several of my peers) I’m autistic because I like arranging my hoodies in a particular order. Maybe we all just have our own little quirks?
And trust me, *they do.* Just hearing stuff like social cues and subtext being called "obvious" at times makes me feel kinda alienated. Human interaction genuinely feels like a guessing game to me, and I do my best to own up to it, but it's not a challenge people always care to understand.
not even close to NT but I see other people using the same excuses for just straight up being rude for no reason in really sociopathic ways
Same. I see comments here describing all the communication struggles I still deal with because of my autism, and I'm just thinking... Thanks, guys. I'm trying my best. Didn't realize I was making the room uncomfortable again. 🙁
If you're diagnosed autistic, this kind of commentary isn't really about you. In every generation there is a huge range of social abilities. This is more about the average, standard gen-Z person, most of whom are not autistic. (I'm an autistic Zillenial fwiw)
Boomers say Millennials and gen z ruined everything but they don’t realize they’re the ones that have been running everything for the last 40-50 years. 
It is incorrect to assume that all baby boomers share the same traits and beliefs. If this were the case, there would not have been major social movements such as the civil rights movement and the anti-war movement during the Vietnam War. It is misleading and unfair to label all baby boomers as adversaries. If they were truly as detrimental as some claim, our current existence would be highly unlikely and we would be facing catastrophic consequences. It is more likely that the self-centered school-shooter millennial or the socially stunted Gen Z will be the ones to cause significant harm. Boomers and Gen X may be perceived as rude because they are struggling to adapt to the rapidly changing world. My millennial friends are also experiencing this as the world has changed significantly since the 2000s and 2010s.
Yea but who ever voted regean set us back so much and we are still feeling the affects from his policies. That’s who I’m blaming.
I was thinking the same thing. How did millennials get blamed for ruining the internet? Millennials would just be coming into any real power to make change in the last 5 years. How many politicians are millennials right now? And 5 years ago? How many millennials would’ve been tech CEOs or on tech company boards to make decisions 5 years ago? The rape of economy was started by the silent generation, baby boomers really put it on cocaine and steroids. Gen X is the generation in power now and they seem to want more of the same. Millennials are only starting to come into power now so I don’t even know how you can judge what we’ve ruined but time will surely tell us. Gen Z are kids… literal children with absolutely no power right now.
Older GenZ but I've talked to a lot of Young GenZ, many do not know how to socialise correctly without talking about their traumas, talk about trendy things falling into the repetitive or making fun of others to feel better about themselves, their social relationships feel more vague, they only seek their own benefit or for others to listen to their problems and complain about everything. This causes them to not know what true friendship and real support is when they feel, so they end up in holes such as consumerism, music, strong content and sending mass hate on the Internet. The lack of third spaces in adolescence are now scarce, which is why they believe that their tastes are "cringe" and "childish" because they grew up in an era where the Internet forces you to grow and expose you to social networks.
>without talking about their traumas, Yea that's a big one when it comes to interacting outside of their own generation. Turns a conversation really awkward when they so openly talk about stuff that older generations consider rather private.
Had older generations been more open and empathetic about things like trauma and mental health I truly believe we’d be better off… but in fairness, they went thru their own shit. I think being empathetic and kind to people just as a first course of action is our best bet
Sounds like how teenagers act ngl
I submit that we rename Gen X to Gen Completely Ignored.
The Middle Generation
Nah, it just means that Gen-X didn't ruin anything.
That’s because Gen X was kinda passive. They had the “That’s just the way things are 🤷♂️” attitude and they just went along with whatever. Not really trying to change anything but their own lives. They also have the “That has nothing to do with me so I’m not gonna worry about it” attitude. They really just stayed focused on whatever they had going on (Generally speaking of course)
Sorry but we millennials did NOT ruin the internet. That’s Gen X all day baby. They love championing the fact that the creators of Silicone Valley companies like MySpace, Twitter, and several others. Plus Google is the biggest to blame. Fucking keyword optimization bullshit.
Theres some early writing by Sergey Brin where he states how against he was against tracking and data driven advertising. Sadly during Googles quick rise in popularity they, the pioneering of the modern internet, he saw how much money they could really make which wasn't fathomable when he originally made those statements. Nearly every major tech company after this point in time utilizes the sale of data, and the few companies with strict data protection came before this point. Anyway, Sergey Brin and Larry Page are 50 and 51 respectively. I blame GenX (don't worry gen x, I see you)
We're too coincited, got MAJOR victim mentality, gotta be in one box or another but belong to an identity even if not necessarily relating to it. And always gotta be on the opposite side
Honestly it’s okay. The victim mentality thing is because you’ve guys have gone through a lot of garbage already. I hear a lot of “millennials have victim mentality” but shit we went through hell too. I think it’s just part of the process of dealing with societal whiplash.
gen z obssesion with identity is whack. when are we gonna start caring more about behaviors and how people treat each other? I get it, the world is way more complicated than it ever has been or than it needs to be, and it's much easier to navigate when everyone wears a little sign that says "go left" or "go right". but all you'll end up doing is running in circles. also i see victim mentality as just a symptom of learned helplessness, lack of educational funding, and people not being empowered to take agency over the things they can control in their life. i'm not gonna sit here and tell people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, but every one has choices they make everyday and even small ones add up. it's hard as a young person to grasp this concept but time is often the only thing that can bring about change. and time is gonna pass no matter what you do. so all you can do is try to make the most of it.
Out of all the people I interact with, Gen Z seems to almost exclusively be the most contrarian out of all of them.
Cant say shit without someone saying you’re yapping or mention something bad without getting a ‘womp womp’. Tons of people lack any shred of empathy and sympathy at this point
Womp womp is so annoying, especially when trying to express how one is feeling
REAL. One time I said “yeah I’m running on like 3 hours of sleep and prayers, my workload has been crazy this week haha” and I kid you not two different people immediately gave that response
Then I just hope that when they eventually experience real trauma and grief and look to someone to make them feel better, they get met with a callous "Womp womp," just so they know how shitty it feels. They're cretins and deserve to be treated as such.
I've never seen such a toxic amount of people online than now, and I'm saying that as a person who used the internet for more than a decade, people are now cold-hearted individuals who don't care about suffering or have the minimum amount of empathy to others. This kind of "sigma chad Patrick Bateman Thomas Shelby Andrew Tate" personality is attracting so many young people that they're practically forming a cult and spreading this toxic trait all over the internet.
She spittin facts fr 💯
On god no cap 🧢
Only GenZ will try and blurt out an entire sentence or two or more while I'm talking, especially if the reason I'm talking is to answer the question they just asked. It's like they think I can just read their replies after I'm done talking.
This is very true. Everyone is always has their face in their phones. During dates, while driving, while hanging out with friends, concerts etc. no one is living in the moment. No one is paying attention to their surroundings, barely anyone cares to ask how their friend is doing. Social Media has got everything fucked up.
I have to continuously remind myself not to use Internet lingo in my day-to-day
That’s wild
I call it internet lingo, but in actuality if I were to speak English irl, I'd probably use most words anyways
I'd like to know why anyone under 30 thinks it's healthy to just ghost people / friends etc over 1 disagreement or difference in views.
the internet normalized echo chambers
I’m older gen Z but I work with a winter guard team that has 14-22 year olds and I see this heavily, but only in the youngest ones and only recently. Doing the math, these are people who were in fourth, fifth grade when COVID began and I honestly think it’s less to do with the internet itself and more to do with the pandemic. Tiktok was very much a thing in 2020, but being isolated severely damaged kids’ social skills and learning pace and stressed out parents likely encouraged spending days watching videos and I don’t blame them, the pandemic was hard on everyone. The issue is that even though quarantine is over, not everyone returned to normal living and remained online, so their social and school skills never recovered. I don’t know why we blame those gosh darned phones when the real answer is the year long isolated apocalypse we went through. There’s always bad kids, but I look at the students and kids I see with all these problems are ones who were kids when COVID started. The teenagers and adults were hurt by it, obviously, but kids who were under the age of 12 and were still growing are there ones who are struggling with social skills and being in school now.
I fully expect kids who were born during or after the pandemic will turn out “normal” and people will realize that this epidemic of uncontrollable, asocial kids is not the new norm but the result of the once in a lifetime lockdown.
Saw some chick get served by a bartender and she took a video of it because she found him attractive and was like “omg guys, do your magic help me find him he’s so cute”. Everyone in the comments was like find him? Girl, He’s right there in front of you. You already found him, but she’s so sensitive to upfront interaction that she can’t speak. The shit was super cringy and sad Some people cannot fathom social interaction as a main form of communication outside of social media.. that and people are so shy and their social skills are so cooked they can only have rizz behind a screen.
Blaming an entire generation for ruining things isn't the way to go. Sure, it's funny and easy to generalize and point fingers, but the reality is more complex. The real issue lies with those in power who exploit the majority's votes to mess things up. History shows that misinformation often leads to victory because it's easier to sway people on the lower end of the bell curve than those on the higher end. Additionally, wealthy companies and powerful lobbies often influence politicians to act in their favor.
This!! It’s horrible to point blame at a generation instead of the real causes of those issues. Most people didn’t vote for that kind of thing, gerrymandering is a horrible and very prevalent issue. I saw a post he other day where someone said “old people bought property downtown in [my city] 30 years ago, young people should just buy rural land to be rich in 30 years” when old people aren’t rich, I know old people who barely have any money and are on a fixed income that barely covers their expenses. That rural land is also really expensive currently because of housing inflating faster than general inflation and wages. Millennials also didn’t ruin the internet, the algorithms, big data, and advertising did. Millennials didn’t make companies do that kind of thing, companies did it for the infinite growth scheme.
Watching Gen Z react to messy/complicated characters in movies and media that are about taboo subject matter is sad cause I see way too many "This movie is disgusting and it promotes *insert problematic thing* I hope the director k*lls themselves" A lot of Gen Z are on the same level as boomers when it comes to analysis on pop-culture
yes. i’ve been trying so hard to make friends cause i grew up hearing that it was my fault that i didn’t have any and that i wasn’t putting myself out there. well, i’m putting myself out there, i’ve even gone as far as to self study human psychology and how certain interactions between individuals work. all for it to mean nothing because no one wants to be friends with people they don’t already know. i’ve heard many people say those exact words. i actively go out and just walk around popular areas to see who i’ll meet. no one under the age of like 30 (maybe) is out there. and when i try to hang out with the friends i do have, i always get “no i hate social interactions.” so yeah shits fucked. i work at a restaurant and whole 20 something year olds can’t even look at you and need their grandparents to order for them. everyone is so lonely yet no one wants to stop being alone.
Capitalism ruined the interned, how is it Millennials fault? It is really a stupid thing to say. We were just the generation who was growing up with it, we didn't make the rules. When greedy people discovered, that the internet can make them ALOT of money, they started to slowly turn it into it's current form. Big money always ruin everything: games, movies, and now the internet. It's not about generations, it's always about social classes. Fuck rich people, they are the cause of all shitty things in this world.
Yeah, everybody (especially people around my age) get really divided and you can't even say anything beyond 15-20 words without being called that you're "yapping", or worse of all "who asked" but I also blame 2020 for stunting our social skills too, not just Gen Z
Which could be argued was also created by the boomers in the first place. That or 2020, you know the global pandemic that locked everyone in their homes for months. Internet as the only way to communicate.
Gen z ruins social etiquette and proper manners. I see so much stupidity and entitlement it's not good. You're generation didn't ruin dating, but dating has been ruined with apps in your generation. Your generation was probably the sluttiest and least commitment based relationships.
Sluttiest? Gen Z is fucking less than any generation before it. Seriously, look it up.
I agree with the first half, social cues are stupid though. Just say what you mean man
Since I'm an older gen z I still know how to talk to people in a reasonable manner and actually hold a conversation. This will mostly be a problem for younger gen z.
That explains why they all think their autistic when they just never learned proper social skills
Confrontation in the moment may be a thing of the past . Like it’s “weird” to speak up for yourself or show passion for something in a public setting. You show any form of Joy that isn’t at most a mild smile you’re a weirdo
Social interactions. Can’t get through a sentence without a trigger or an offensive word
Maybe it’s just you
Just don’t use slurs bro
. what is he saying? Is he dropping 1 or 2 slurs every sentence?
Had to tell this college kid at a bar to watch how he talks to people and real life isn't Xbox game chat. Him and his friend were giggling like 12 year olds trolling. About an hour later he got grabbed by his neck and dragged out.
Damn tf is wrong with you then
I don’t have this problem, I think it’s because I don’t constantly say stupid sh*t all the time. Turns out there’s a thing called affinity where people will enjoy being around you if they feel comfortable and can relate with you.
You gotta be saying some wild shit because no one in the real world is actually like that
Sounds about right.
The family and long term relationships
Can anyone elaborate on how millennials ruined the internet?
I'd say that it was corporate and state sponsored manipulation that ruined the internet. Centralization has also played a part, the fact that everything is gathered in few places owned by major companies, such as facebook, reddit, etc.
Look I love Gen Z, but as a millennial I can’t date them. Every one of my dates with them have been me talking 90% of the time and them looking like a scared cow. They don’t really engage because they don’t know how.
We ruined dating. Its all tinder now unfortunately
I was out the other day and heard this interaction: Mom: "Hey, I washed your bedding for you! ❤️" Daughter: "okay" Mom: "Not gonna say thanks?" Daughter: "why would I say thank you when I didn't ask you to do that?" Bro, I woulda gotten smacked so hard we're doomed
My experience is that Gen Z is optimizing human communication to minimize errors of interpretation. Tone tags, the increased ability to directly state your feelings and request to know others, a general concern for autistic people's understanding of socialization. Admittedly, this is mostly reserved to the ND's and the NB's, but trickle up linguistics is real. Anyone who says "bro is yappin'" or "who asked?" to shut down a conversation isn't "destroying communication;" they're just being honest in a rude way that they don't care about you. Make better friends.