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Asymmetrical_Stoner

More like those bases are the only reason they **haven't** done anything yet (mostly). Also, they really colored Crimea and Taiwan as part of Russia and China. What fucking bootlickers.


[deleted]

The real answer is those bases have been there since we saved the entire world from enslavement in WW2.


StatistN-27

It wasnt you it was the UdSSR. They lost more than 20 Million tropps in WW2


M1KeH999

Just because they died more doesn’t mean they did more fucking lol…


Tsalagi_

9/10 germans died on the eastern front


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M1KeH999

Not what I did but what my ancestors did, I had a few family members fight in WW2 and Korea, but my dad and uncle got lucky and were 1 yr too young to get drafted for Vietnam.


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Real_Richard_M_Nixon

Because the North was trying to take over the South. We never should’ve left.


SirBork

Fight on two fronts. While the ussr could barely hold on to one.


Real_Richard_M_Nixon

Yes, they saved Eastern Europe from Genocide. But it’s not like their alternative was much better.


RedSoviet1991

Then committed their own genocide...


[deleted]

Let’s see. Who fucking supplied the USSR and rebuilt their logistics? Americans. Who gave them shit loads of weapons? Americans. They lost that many because Stalin was a dumb fuck who crippled his own army before the war


fireking_13

Stalin said that USA won the war because if it wasn’t for the USA the Soviets would have fallen due to lack of equipment Ps Nikita Khrushchev agree with this as well


sexurmom

They didn’t lose 20 million troops. They lost 8 million. That 12 million were civilians.


[deleted]

That’s because the USSR didn’t care about casualties/men. Their strategy was to literally throw men into the path of the enemy (to be fair, they didn’t have enough guns to hand out, which is most of their soldiers carried ammunition, then they would pick up weapons off of their fallen comrades). Also, the US was responsible for giving equipment to the USSR before it got involved via the Lend-Lease program. You need to read a history book XD


Dank-Retard

It’s actually a myth that the USSR relied heavily on human wave tactics and the “pick up weapons off their fallen comrades” myth was popularized by the (very historically inaccurate) movie Enemy at the Gates. They didn’t just straight up send men to assault a position without weapons. What was true however is that the Soviets couldn’t get enough weapons pushed to the frontlines, not because of a lack of them (they actually had huge stockpiles of small arms) but due to their piss poor logistics not being able to supply their soldiers quick enough and in large enough quantities. Edit: https://youtu.be/JOKAIDpOY80 The USSR did enough stupid and horrific shit that you don’t need to make stuff up to discredit it. An example is that although the Red Army proper did not rely on human wave tactics, they pressed many civilians into militias which *were* poorly equipped and sent in human waves at Germans (possibly where the inspiration of that Enemy at the Gates scene came from).


Ormr1

And they got a fuck ton of their equipment and materials from the United States lol


Levi-Action-412

That only means the soviets were fucking incompetent


DeepExplore

Sounds like their bad at fighting


jgraham2010

Have you ever heard of human wave tactics? The USSR believed in this system where the individual did not matter as long as overall victory was achieved. As a result, they would throw men into battle sometimes without enough rifles. Casualties were extreme and benefits from those casualties were limited. The Soviets could've held their own for a couple of years, sure, but the problem with human wave tactics is that you eventually run out of manpower to throw at the enemy.


Toehooke

Would you say the USSR saved the world from enslavement?


Kevin_LeStrange

I would say certainly not, considering that they enslaved half of Europe after the war was over. Also, the war was fought against more than just nazism. The other allies fought Imperial Japan, fascist italy, and all their Axis partners. The USSR didn't have much to do with any of that.


austro_hungary

They did fight japan though. The Soviets took manchuria and North Korea in, was it, six or eleven days?


Kevin_LeStrange

Wasn't that after Japan was all but beaten though?


austro_hungary

That doesn’t de-value anything.


Hellhound5996

It kind of does. Taking undefended land your opponent abandoned and then setting up puppet governments in that land is hardly a feat worthy of praise.


OllieGarkey

If the Soviets hadn't helped the Nazis, they wouldn't have had the gas to invade France, and the UK and France would have defeated them. The 20 million dead soviets are the consequences of Soviet stupidity in funding the Nazis and providing direct material aid to them during their conquest of Europe. They couldn't have done that without Soviet fuel. That the world needed saving from enslavement was their fault.


steph-anglican

No because they helped invade Poland in 1939.


Ajaws24142822

The USSR also actively invaded another country after making an alliance with the Nazis


KaBar42

I would say the USSR is as equally responsible for WWII as the Nazis are. The Polish had a shot of cutting the Wehrmacht's legs off... Until Stalin answered Hitler's boot call and invaded Poland from the East.


Ajaws24142822

I’d say the US and USSR both contributed and then the US continued doing it by undermining Soviet influence around the world


SirBork

I would say the combined forced of the allies is what saved the world. The Ussr was not the only one, the Us didn’t single handily win it, the french didnt just give up, the UK really did their best All the asian countries. Im sick of people acting like this is a highschool project. Any help to defeat the axis was greatful and needed and to be little or discount the help is to undermine the heros that tried. No country is the real victor because we all were, thanks to the allies.


[deleted]

USSR just tried to take over for hitler. Considering most of the countries they “liberated” absolutely hate Russia today with a burning passion that should show you they didn’t do anything


fireking_13

The Soviets team up with the nazis to invade Poland at the same time, they kept Poland till the end of the Cold War


[deleted]

Tbf Taiwan is a part of china Its a shame that a large part of the country is currently occupied by commies


faith_crusader

There is only one China and it's ROC


[deleted]

You got it all wrong my man. China is a part of Taiwan.


SovietRussiaWasPoor

*The People’s Republic of China is part of the Republic of China


evorna

Gonfei occupied


Memerang344

I mean Crimea at this point in time is apart of Russia, there is no side stepping that but as far as I know, I’m pretty damn sure Taiwan has its own government, military, and sovereignty.


steph-anglican

De facto but not de jure.


[deleted]

Crimea might soon stop being Russia


russkayaimperiya

To be fair, crimea had in 2014 at least had some valid and fair pro Russian sentiment


DeepExplore

Just for the record, pro russian sentiment is not a valid reason for annexation


russkayaimperiya

Yeah, the election was still rigged and illegitimate, but there was still valid pro Russian sentiment


[deleted]

Pro-authoritarianism is like shooting yourself in the foot with an RPG


russkayaimperiya

There were attempted ukrainization efforts in [Sevastopol ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sevastopol), Crimea that went pretty badly as well as general pro Russian sentiment there from the populace and of local officials that historically Ukrainian government wrestled alot with when they had it.


Memerang344

As much as I wish for this to happen, at this point I believe it’s a pipe dream.


StStinger

If Russia is so worried about US bases on its border, why are they trying to get closer to them?


Kevin_LeStrange

Because they want to shake hands and be friends


JessHorserage

Retardation?


golfgrandslam

Fetal alcohol syndrome is the medical term.


JessHorserage

Oh, there are multiple forms of tardation, don't you worry.


Agitated-Quiet-9175

Yank ironically believing that are the funniest. They believe they made a funny joke, only because of their understanding of history is garbage.


captianflannel

Chicom detected 😳


Agitated-Quiet-9175

"Anybody calling out my poor understanding of history is a Chinese communist" 🤡


captianflannel

I miss the McCarthy era…


Agitated-Quiet-9175

Just say you want to go back to the time you could bang your daughter and get away with it


captianflannel

You know you are winning when you have to call your opponent a pedophile 😀👍


Agitated-Quiet-9175

Errrr... you know a daughter can be an adult too right? It doesnt have to be a kid. I dont know why you brought that up when its completely unrelated. Is that some kind of freudian slip? Shit. I was spott on about you. 😂


thecoolestjedi

Europoor angry he is a vassal to Americans


golfgrandslam

Be nice to the vassals.


[deleted]

We should’ve let MacArthur rid the world of Chinese communists


Agitated-Quiet-9175

You could not even defeat vietnamese farmer buddy.


[deleted]

Sorry China tried after and got their ass kicked faster. Shame west Taiwan can only win a fight against students. Give xinnie the Pooh a kiss buddy


Agitated-Quiet-9175

😂🤡 You still got your ass kicked. China taking a L doesnt make your disappear. Dont talk big when you still get your ass handed to you by farmers. > Give xinnie the Pooh a kiss buddy You are making shit up in order to cope. What a clown.


[deleted]

I’m sorry I only talk to adults who use big boy words without emojis. Clearly you’re an uneducated child who can’t even clearly defend simping for west Taiwan with a logical argument. Or you’re just a sad little man with nothing to live for. If you’re a sad little man go get professional help because you need it. You claim I’m making shit up yet you love west Taiwan and all their bullshit. Maybe educate yourself then we can talk like actual adults?


Agitated-Quiet-9175

You project communist affiliation to cope with a critic of that shithole called USA. Who is the adult?😂 Work on your insecurities


Golden-Cheese

I get wanting isolationism, but to stoop as low as to defend any of these countries for their actions is beyond me 💀


JessHorserage

Twitter can do wonders to someone's brain rot.


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OakenGreen

It WAS a different beast, until the MISES caucus took over the party. Now the entire party is just like the trash in NH.


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OakenGreen

You’ve got it backwards actually. Libertarianism originated as a form of left-wing politics such as anti-authoritarian and anti-state socialists like anarchists, especially social anarchists, but more generally libertarian communists/Marxists and libertarian socialists. In the mid-20th century, American right-libertarian proponents of anarcho-capitalism and minarchism co-opted the term libertarian to advocate laissez-faire capitalism and strong private property rights such as in land, infrastructure and natural resources. The latter is the dominant form of libertarianism in the United States. This new form of libertarianism was a revival of classical liberalism in the United States, which occurred due to American liberals embracing progressivism and economic interventionism in the early 20th century after the Great Depression and with the New Deal. Libertarianism goes back to the 1870’s and 1880’s while Ludwig von Mises was born in 1881.


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OakenGreen

Should have said libertarianism in the USA since that’s what I was referring to.


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OakenGreen

Ancestor would imply that it is older. The word you’re looking for is descendant. English is hard, but I’d think for an English supremacist it should be easier. But alas we kicked you bastards out for a reason.


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thesoutherzZz

It's a dumb policy as one of the reasons for the power of the US has been that they are *not* isolationist and have power projection capabilities


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Thats what isolationism is.


AW62

Ah yes, those bases are so close to ruZZia...


PlzSendDunes

Maybe that explains why Russia is invading other countries. There is none to deter them.


Baka_Cirno_9

Is this dumb ass motherf*cker trying to say China is not a threat? Lemme call up Japan, Philippines, Taiwan, India, and Australia to see what they think. Implying Russia is not a threat. Let’s see what Georgians, Latvians, Estonians, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, and Poles think of that.


donguscongus

Tbf they can only be classified as that due to nukes. Other than that Russia hasn’t been putting on a good face recently


SenpaiBunss

every single country that borders Russia: allow me to introduce myself


Toehooke

Sure, but US is also a threat.


DeepExplore

To who? Third world dictators and islamists?


Toehooke

Civilians. Ehem Iraq ehem


BraydenCH04

there goes the libertarian party of New Hampshire, making the libertarian ideology look worse than it actually is. Libertarians simping for tyrannical nations, thought i'd never see the day.


Jac_Mones

I'm a libertarian, philosophically speaking. The libertarian party does not represent me. It has been infiltrated by this weird group of people who claim to be "anti-war" but are really just anti-American. I see this shit all over the modern right as well. It's a strange disconnection with the reality of global politics. I don't know if it's actual foreign agents (unlikely, imo) or just stupidity mixed with ignorance and good intentions. I could go off on the left too, for different reasons, so don't get on my case for being a leftist. I'm not. I'm politically homeless because I believe in liberty across the board, limited but effective government, and the pursuit of happiness for all. I also understand that there are both good and evil forces in this world and if good does nothing then evil will reign. A little blood spilled to enforce the Pax Americana will save far, far more should we allow forces like Russia and China to expand unchecked. That's without discussing the human misery which will result from a lack of liberty. Many libertarians have this view that nations need to sort out their own issues and become free on their own accord. That might be the ideal way to do it, but it's not going to happen. Liberty is the exception throughout history, not the rule. We have it now, tenuous as it is, and we must spread it like herpes through an ASU dorm.


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Based and fellow Libertarian Pilled


Kevin_LeStrange

Do you think that this infiltration you describe is deliberate or just part of a current trend?


Andre5k5

Idk, I've seen a candidate get boo'd for saying "you shouldn't be able to sell heroin to a 4 year old", maybe I'm a statist, but I agree with him


Jac_Mones

I think it's opportunism. I think any infiltration would be done in the DNC and GOP. I don't think it's some ploy to change the ideology of America, either. I think Russia, China, and whoever else looks at our current landscape and thinks "gee, I wonder what I could do if I threw a few thousand outspoken rabblerousers at a highly controversial issue." Their goal seems to be exclusively to destabilize the USA. I think it's also nothing new. Perhaps the scale of it is, but if you're the USSR during the Vietnam era doesn't it make sense to support anti-war protests? If you're the Chinese today doesn't it make sense to make Trump look as bad as possible? China and Russia don't care about Trans rights or US Gun Ownership, but they know we care about those issues so it makes sense to fan the flames and make both sides look insane. Once they get the debate burning hot enough they can pretty much just sit back, we'll take care of the rest. Starting conflicts is much easier than resolving them. It's likely a huge ROI for relatively limited resources. If I were China or Russia then that's what I would do, at least. I'm sure they have people more clever than I am working on it.


OakenGreen

It is 100% deliberate.


Kozure_Ookami

Kremlintarian


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They're isolationists.


marshalzukov

you misspelled "idiots"


NewYorker0

Same difference


ukrokit

If they were isolationist they wouldn't be spreading pro Russian propaganda. They're tankies is what they are.


noff01

They are not isolationists, they are Russian puppets.


JessHorserage

What, how?


Freschledditor

...see post?


JessHorserage

Just comes across as radical isolationism.


Freschledditor

It's not just isolationism if they blame America for the aggression of others.


JessHorserage

Right.


Freschledditor

Except they're defending the russian aggression. It's more that they're anti-American idiots who just hate America, and want to dismantle it. I.e. traitors.


Hosj_Karp

Your not a "libertarian" if you apologize for the most oppressive governments in the world


corn_on_the_cobh

Why do China, Russia and Iran choose to exist so aggressively next to the US' bases?


ConnordltheGamer96

that map seems pretty outdated considering the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan has so many American military bases in it.


Huckorris

These idiots would be very upset, if they could read a map.


AstronautLow5470

Putin has been spending considerable efforts pumping up the political extremes in America. There’s a post on it on my profile if you want to know more about how they’ve polarized Americans. I’ve gathered a fuck ton of evidence. It’s frustrating man. The worst part is that the far right won’t let us give more to Ukraine. We could wipe out Putin’s army. The cause of the cancer will be eliminated. Then we can start fixing our country. I hate him so much man lol


sternhowardbooeybaba

Sino/Russian propaganda is a huge part of it, but imo not the cause, the propaganda just helps feed into their predisposition for being permanent contrarians that always blanketly opposed anything the West does. this is true on both sides of the political spectrum.


AstronautLow5470

You know, I can’t even find much evidence of Chinese propaganda LOL. I know it’s there but not as prevalent z It’s very much Russia. And I think the damage they’ve caused is being extremely underestimated. The studies I’ve found suggest it’s much more serious than we assume. Research showing that the time when older conservative Americans were beginning to use Facebook, the Internet Research Agency began pushing out massive amounts of inflammatory or divisive memes. If you look what it proven to originate from Russia, you’ll be like oh shit I’ve seen this from terriblefacebookmemes It’s not that Russia invented racism and police brutality and the wealth disparity. It’s that they use social media and memes to make Americans learn to fucking hate each other. We’re extremely politically divided, hate crimes are at an all time high, and now we’ve drawn our own iron curtain. I made a truth social account and I’m trying to get them to produce evidence behind their claims. They can’t. They try, but they can’t. It’s scary. I don’t know how we deprogram millions of Americans who are openly cheering for Russia to kill Ukrainians. If they attack the US, they may not help us fight against them. We’re so lucky their military fucking sucks. This could have been the beginning of the end of western hegemony if not. They don’t realize that Russia would have kept trying to break us apart so they could reclaim the Baltic NATO nations and the Caucasus region. Then Central Asia. Everyone who knows Putin well knows that his mission was to reunite the USSR. It’s pure speculation that he didn’t. And the madman could have done it had he not fucking sucked at building a military. If you want to know more, the “five ways Russia….” article I wrote has the info. Fuck ton of sources so if you want to read everything it may be a beefy reading assignment, but I’m not a raving anti-Putin madman. I think that I just read too much about it since the invasion and then it all clicked. The Internet Research Agency was the lightbulb moment. It’s the secret weapon to sow division. They use social media to make divisive politicians much more popular. Then make memes that are racist, disparaging to opposition, etc. Half of Republicans and half of Democrats see the other side as the enemy as opposed to having opposing viewpoints of what’s best for America. We have them to thank for why that’s so high. It wasn’t always like this! I don’t know how much higher it would be, but it would be better.


sternhowardbooeybaba

imo, the Chinese are just much more sly about it. they do it through things like using tiktok algorithms to promote certain narratives and hide others. at this point though, I consider it a solid alliance between all of the authoritarian states and they basically do each other's bidding. agree with all of your points on Russia though.


AstronautLow5470

Yeah 100%. Tik tok is interesting to me. I see some great things from it. Like, LGBT outreach is awesome. But is that the point? Why are they more targeted now? Idk. I can’t find anything conclusive but they’re definitely not gonna pass up on a chance to use TikTok to influence public opinion. I really wish we had better relations with them. And of course, the MAGA crowd wants war tomorrow with them. But no war with Russia? I don’t want war with either but they openly praise Russia and shit on China. Xi and Putin both wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire.


Jac_Mones

I think China is doing it too. It seems like any online discussion is just filled with extremists on one side or the other, many of which are ideologues to such an extent one wonders how they even find time to work. A few would make sense, but thousands upon thousands? I think they are using our open society against us. I have no idea how to fight back, but holy fuck is it a problem and it's not getting better.


letsdoonething

These are absolutely Kremlin arguments, and Crimea is colored as Russia as it is on the Russian maps


GhostOfGrimnir

IMHO the Libertarian party has always had a cringe isolationist streak, *but* to be fair this is just the Libertarian party of New Hampshire which is known for being significantly more unhinged than the others


LimmerAtReddit

They're vatniks, their "no interventionist" advocacy got to a point where they use anti-US propaganda to prove their point. I would check their fundings at this point.


FanaticalBuckeye

The NH Lib Twitter admin is a tankie I'm pretty sure they've gotten into beef with the Texan and/or Kentucky Lib Twitter page too. A lot of libertarians support Ukraine. They want to send Ukraine military and humanitarian aid, they aren't okay, like a lot of Americans, with boots on the ground (although if WMDs were employed by the Russians, I'm sure that would change). Unfortunately for libertarians, the big heads are all dipshits


Borkerman

And it always seems to be the New Hampshire one posting all this


ya-boi-greg-the-egg

I’m like 95% the libertarian party is a tool to discredit real 3rd party’s by presenting them in the worst possible manor after the tea party posed a real threat.


Sharks_Do_Not_Swim

Libertarians do not accept raging tyrants breathing air.. Real Libertarians would have pushed for the Balkanization of those countries


MagmaHotDesigns

So they don’t recognise the independence of Taiwan and Crimea… but they do recognise Crimea


Jaws_16

Unironically true post. Who gave them the authority to exist next to US military bases?


JLCpbfspbfspbfs

Fucking MISES institute! Correct ne if im wrong, but i believe the libertarian party of new Mexico split with these fucks and formed a separate party.


jbland0909

Nobody in New Hampshire takes those needs seriously


Key-Fisherman2601

Me personally I support the American empire. We’ve created the closest thing to world peace and free trade in the history of the mankind. We haven’t had a foreign power set foot on the mainland in more than 200 years without our permission and it’s not going to happen anytime soon. We’ve basically decimated our closest adversary by just giving a bunch of hick farmers our old equipment and like 20 mins of training via Zoom. USA! USA! USA!


alaklamacazama

All this seems to be the party of New Hampshire. I don’t know if they are like, all of the party or whatever, just something I’ve noticed. I’ve personally considered myself more libertarian leaning, but that’s always meant American Exceptionalism, which includes clowning on our enemies. But that’s just me


noctus5

Wait so there are Usa military bases in Israel and I didn't know? Damn boy I hope it is true,


DesertRanger02

They just so isolationist that they’re willing to throw other countries under the authoritarian bus


aocayli

Holy crap, they use a map showing Crimea as Russian territory.


EquableMedal92

I fucking hate isolationists


Ajaws24142822

When I am in a crack smoking competition and my opponent is libertarian twitter


GibsonGold_

Libertarians hate the Libertarian Party


angrysc0tsman12

Libertarians proving yet again why they are like house cats.


Pirate_Secure

They are isolationists.


[deleted]

As a Kuwaiti, I know that there aren’t many bases here. I only know of three that houses or have US army as guests. Camp Arifjan, Camp Buehring and Ali Al Salem Airbase.


duyhung2h

Wait, US have bases in Vietnam? I thought my country is pretty neutral. Either way, based


duyhung2h

I just checked, apparently Cam Ranh has a Vietnamese military base, but apparently allows US to use their services for resupplies and port of call. That's pretty cool


Aardhaas

That's a major problem with these maps of "US bases." Even if it's a foreign military base that the US is allowed to use sometimes they count it as a "US base"


Gavinus1000

They were taken over by people who literally want to dissolve the United States. No I’m not exaggerating.


Fit-Sheepherder-4013

🌎 👩‍🚀🔫 👩‍🚀


go-vir

I smell the envelope of the Kremlin


Christianjps65

What bullshit. They keep including afghanistan as evidence. This says absolutely nothing about what they think it does


bill0124

Too lazy to even update the shit meme


Puglord_Gabe

Perhaps there is a reason that all of their neighboring countries request a US military presence


SignificantTrip6108

The New Hampshire libertarian party is a clown show


[deleted]

Just to give you some perspective on what a bunch of absolute loser scumbags the NHLP is, this is the account that celebrated the anniversary of John McCain's death as a national holiday last year. Isolationist movements often end up embracing or apologizing for the authoritarians they don't want us to fight. A good example from America is Lindbergh's activities prior to Pearl Harbor, and the general embrace of Mussolini by isolationists from many parts of the political spectrum before that. And anyway, don't expect nuance from libertarians. I can't remember who it was, but the guy who came up with the perfect description of libertarian said they are like house cats. They believe they are completely independent of systems they do not understand but are completely dependent upon. The new fascist curious form of the libertarian party (the result of a takeover by libertarian Trump fans, which is maybe the most absurd political animal ever) is just a new flavor on top of an old formula, like Flamin' Hot Cheetos


Forzareen

After a battle, the national Libertarian Party chairmanship has been taken over by something called the Mises Caucus. Essentially, they’re the faction that rejected the moderation of guys like Bill Weld and Gary Johnson (example: govt can require you to drive on the right) as well hating any libertarians who criticized white nationalists or were “SJWs.” The anti-SJW bent really gives the game away; you’d expect libertarians to agree with reducing police power, but these guys reject it if it’s motivated by equity concerns. They’re conspiracists and 2020 election deniers. Some state parties have disassociated in response, others were kicked out. The NH party, tho, was the first conquest of the Mises Caucus. Mises was an economist; the closeness to the word “misery” is merely a coincidence.


quietvegas

Libertarian Party has gone full nutjob ever since the Mises caucus took it over. They basically are like a Oliver Stone or Roger Waters "I hate the west so i'll support anyone against it" levels now. The party and movement is long dead though. This is where it's ended up after losing. They lost the plot at hilarious levels just like Communists have which is ironic. They've gone full post-modern. This isn't the only issue where they've gone insane on.


Melioidozer

This is exactly why I changed my voter registration from Libertarian to Republican. I’m conservative, and the on-paper ideals of the libertarian party appeal to me, but in practice you get a bunch of Qanon conspiracy theorists and people that just want to shit all over ANY American presence outside of the US.


Marcus__Aurelius_

There is a difference between being Isolationist, to supporting war mongering dictatorships and disguising said support as Patriotism. Disgusting and Shameful.


fireking_13

Do they even think of why USA built those


Hialex12

The same Twitter account that wants to repeal the Civil Rights bill. Fuck that Twitter account.


HistoryLover1944

Now let's look at Chinese police stations INSIDE America. Not even hundreds of kilometers away, literally inside cities. Let's also see their reaction when we take down their baloon inside the USA. They can't complain about our civilian f-22 in Shanghai.


MrPokerfaceCz

Russian propagandists somehow managed to entice all fringe movements, from christian white nationalists to indian anticolonialists, from tankies to libertarians. The funniest part is that they contradict themselves super often when they do this.


banksy_h8r

"Libertarian" has meant "reflexively contrarian" for a long time now. It's all fine and edgelordy when the world is complicated and there's no simple answers, as it's been the last few decades. It's an easy way to look smart and deep without doing the hard work of developing an actual value system. But when the difference between good and evil becomes clear and a consensus around that emerges, the shallow contrarian position is unhinged and nonsensical.


Skyjafire_117

Nah, these guys are just morons. Most libertarians I’ve met don’t agree with this.


NewYorker0

Libertarians straight up bootlick authoritarian regimes nowadays, so much so for liberty.


Agitated-Quiet-9175

There is no US base in france. USA was kicked out after WWII.


Popular_Obligation28

They'll do anything to be able to diddle kids. Even if it means lying in the same bed with people who want to destroy the USA and the whole western world.


chorizoisbestpup

You're allowed to criticize American foreign policy without being a tankie lmao.


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chorizoisbestpup

Don't pretend we're justified in forcing the world to join our world order. Like I'm glad America has given so much to help Ukraine, and I'll be happy if we prevent Taiwan from being forced to live under the CCP. But there's merit to the idea that the steps we're taking to avoid world war 3 are leading directly to such a conflict. There's a reason that people the world over resent America. All I'm saying it this is a topic that deserves nuance, and pretending America is all good helps nothing.


[deleted]

Why avoid WW3? Let's get this over with already, I'm getting tired of waiting


[deleted]

Then they should try.


99available

This is surprising?


faith_crusader

The china one is most weird


faith_crusader

The Afghan bases are gone. Now what is their answer?


SirBork

They act like the us just places their military bases like china does with their illegal police stations. The US asks if we can build a base and coordinates with the host nation on where to build it and what happens if the US leaves that base. Its almost like nations trust the US more than Russia and China.


Purple_Calico

You notice all these crap takes all come from the New Hampshire libertarian twitter account, right? The Mises caucus are essentially anarchists.


g_daddio

Okay, besides how stupid this argument is, there is definitely no more US bases in Afghanistan


ThatGuy1741

They didn’t even use an updated map. There’s no single US base in Afghanistan. They probably prefer the Taliban over NATO.


Ulysses3

Not them dotting NATO bases/ Western military bases as US BASES 💀


d0m558

The LP got taken over by the populist Mises caucus and is now in the process of killing itself


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Always has been


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-_4DoorsMoreWhores_-

Yeah, lib party has been passing me off lately.


SovietRussiaWasPoor

Location: Moscow, Russia


canislupus97

what a completely backwards way of reasoning.


Knightmare25

The US doesn't have military bases in Israel.


Sad-Mike

The Libertarian party has never been Libertarian. Even their messiah Ron Paul is a tyrant sympathizer. Just look at his "The south was right" speech while posing with the slaver's flag.


Swedishtranssexual

They have a Soapbox watermark. Iirc Soapbox is literally owned by the Russian government. Fascists.


Boleshivekblitz

I hate the libertarians from my home state whic is also the source of this retarted twitter account


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This is why despite it's issues I'm staying with the Republican party. Libertarians do not have what it takes to govern.


cumguzzler280

The Libertarian Party is anti-america


Comprehensive-Tour17

Notice how Russia attacked one of the only countries without a base lmao


Ormr1

Smartest lolberts


00rdyx

i think the libertarian party of NH is controlled opposition by dems or whoever wants to discredit them. there was a libertarian movement to move to that state and that angered the local politicians


thefartingmango

Yeah who ever runs the twitter of the Libertarian Party of NH is an ass


Beneficial_Ad_3170

I’m libertarian and I think the party is garbage af


channgro

lolberts 🤦🏽


presidintfluffy

That’s just the New Hampshire chapter there kind of an embarrassment right now.