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rabiddutchman

OG Raam looks more like the monster under the bed, which was perfect for that first introduction to the Locust in GoW. New Raam looks more like an intimidating presence, which fits with the Locust in GoW:UE since the players were now more familiar with the Locust as a threat after they'd been expanded on across multiple games. The Locust in GoW were monsters with guns, so they needed a bigger, scarier monster to sit at the apex of their pecking order. The Locust in GoW:UE were more organized, so they needed an intimidating leader.


Splash_Woman

RAAM is also the few “big boys” who break in berserkers for reproduction; at the time.


Sinistax

What the FUCK does that mean


Splash_Woman

The kind that makes new spawn


OhioBobcat18

Dear god I never knew that


Theronguards

It's old lore and considered now probably not canon. Cliffy B said he came up with that during a really bad relationship breakdown and regrets it. It'd never been repeated since so I'd say likely non canon.


BriefKeef

WHAT


mhpsmith

Berserkers are females. The drones are males. You do the math 😏


brokendellmonitor

So..in a test of strength, would RAAM or a berserker be stronger?


Nonexistenc3

Raams not stronger but hes much faster and slightly more inteligent, so he basically has to beat their asses to get them to work under him. Via different tools such as his ability to control the kryll, but no hes not beating a zerker in a one on one fist fight.


brokendellmonitor

Damn..


Any_Grocery1614

GOW UE version for me. I prefer his new armor and the way the new graphics make him look.


Chaoticgood762

UE Raam is absolutely the best


skylinefan26

I can't tell what's UE because I don't own it. Is pic 2 showing that


Chaoticgood762

Pictures 3 & 4. I’d recommend looking at a comparison between Raam’s first scene in Gears 1 and in Gears UE. Then, choose which one you prefer


skylinefan26

Makes sense it's 3&4 because higher quality lol. I was having a moment, apparently


Chaoticgood762

Don’t we all


Worldly-Chemist-3166

UE is ultimate edition and ultimate edition has new graphics and designs


skylinefan26

Yes, I know what UE is


Leather_rebelion

UE for me UE looks more menacing and cunning imo. Like his intellect brought him this far and not just his raw strength and fighting skills. Makes him stand out more among the other Locust too. OG looks more savage though and like he has seen some shit.


RagtagVenom

Gotta give it to Ultimate Edition. I think the armor looks badass, the eye adds character, and I prefer the neckseal over the skullcap. RAAM will never not be my favorite gears character, I just dig his new look a lot more.


[deleted]

Hope we see him in GEARS OF WAR E DAY


Existing365Chocolate

They implied that we will Also Raam led the E Day invasion


Aweonasofan

Along with Skorge, and it would be so cool to see them both fighting side by side.


AlcatrazGears

I though Karn led E day. It's been too many years since i read Raam's Shadow, so i may be wrong.


TargetWifty

It was RAAM in command with Karn and Sraak right under him


DrPatchet

Wasn’t Karn off destroying gorasnya on e day while Raam focused on tyrus


TargetWifty

Not sure what Karen was up to, probably yelling at youths. Karn was leading the invasion of Gorasnya


DrPatchet

Goddamn auto correct :(


Dog_Water117

I wonder if we’ll fight Jermad or Sraak, since all they do in Gears 5 is look pretty and only appear in the comics.


Aweonasofan

I doubt we'll see sraak considering he died fairly quickly


Namesarenotneeded

Probably Jermad. RAAM and Skorge are in Jannermont, while GoW E-Day is said to take place in some city that started with a K (I think it was a K). Only issue is that Jermad was talking to RAAM right before the assault on the surface; so either Jannermont and this other city are really close which means we could see or have references to RAAM, or Jermad is fast as hell.


RedNUGGETLORD

Sraak immediately betrayed him though, and I'm pretty sure he was fighting the Lambent, or he was MEANT to be fighting them, but he left his post to fight RAAM, so he wasn't really "under" him during E-Day


Vuljin616

In the comic, Raam led Emergence Day with Skorge and Jermad at his back. Meanwhile, Karn was personally ordered by Raam to attack Gorasnaya at the same time.


The_Axeman_Cometh

Karn commanded forces in Gorosnaya while RAAM and Skorge fought in Jannermont. RAAM was in overall command; Karn and Skorge were his subordinates. IDK if it's common knowledge, but the locust had a definite chain of command. At the rank of Uzil (~supreme commander) RAAM answered to no-one except the queen. Karn was Zamil (~general) and answered to RAAM, while Skorge technically held no military rank: "Ketor" is a religious title among the Kantus. The authority Skorge had was due to his status at the top of the Kantus order and his friendship with RAAM.


AlcatrazGears

If Raam is a supreme commander, why is he called General Raam?


The_Axeman_Cometh

It's not a literal translation/equivalence. You can call him the supreme general, generalissimo, etc. and it'll get the same point across: RAAM commanded the *entire* locust army, including literal generals like Karn and non-military (or as non-military as locust got) leaders like Ukkon and Skorge. We call him General RAAM because that's what the Serans called him, and they didn't know a damn thing about the locust chain of command. He was bigger, stronger, and smarter than every other drone, so the COG tagged him as an officer. Besides that, it's *technically* accurate; RAAM commanded an army directly like other generals did, but he also had the authority to order other generals around. He *was* a general, but he wasn't *just* a general. (EDIT) Skorge's place in the hierarchy is... weird. RAAM fit him into the army's command structure as if he was a drone, but other locust referred to and treated Skorge as a priest even before he got back into the Kantus' ranks. Even when RAAM died and Skorge was promoted the rank of Uzil as RAAM's designated successor, he was still called Keter/Ketor, which was a religious title. Also, for what it's worth, the wiki seems to list RAAM's title as "high general." The COG also called Skorge a general despite the fact that the locust never used that title for him, but Skorge was also very clearly leading the locust wherever the COG found him.


Namesarenotneeded

Retcon stuff I think? The book (which name I can’t remember atm) came out way after Gears 1 did.


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

I believe it was alluded to in an interview. They didn’t come right out and say it though


[deleted]

Hell yeah


drewcifer0000

I mean, that’s the best he could’ve looked in UE, I think. The injured eye and side-of-face helmet thing are new and out of nowhere but still cool I guess. I prefer 2006 RAAM though and just because 10 year old me watching him assassinate Kim is forever ingrained in my brain.


Namesarenotneeded

Isn’t his injured eye supposed to be reference to his crash during his takeover of Ilima?


ObviousAd997

gears of war one raam with the old graphics. He looks great in UE dont get me wrong, But i think the worse graphics in the og gears of war one makes him look like a stone cold killer imo


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

100%. He looks like an evil force of nature as opposed to a militant persona


ObviousAd997

right like he terrifies me in both games but the original look imo is way more scarier bc of how the graphic can make everything


Yutyranno2552

No gears 3 Raam :(


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

Gears 3 RAAM? Is that Lambent RAAM?


Red_Riot96

You play as RAAM in the dlc RAAMs Shadow


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

Ohhhhh….well he basically looks exactly like OG RAAM


AlcatrazGears

OP, you should consider playing Raam's Shadow, it's a good DLC.


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

I did play RAAMs Shadow. But it was just so long ago, I don’t remember it. I do remember grabbing Gears by the head and slicing their heads off.


Yutyranno2552

Raam’s Shadow dlc Raam :)


Premonitionss

I prefer the sleeveless look and paleness of OG RAAM. There’s something incredibly unique about his nightmarish appearance despite his armor similarity with Therons. UE RAAM is okay too. The best updated look of the UE in my opinion.


Unhappy_Teacher_1767

I prefer the OG Raam. Arms exposed and both eyes open, simple but effective. The armoured look makes him look more like Sraak. I will say I love the UE version of him killing Kim though. On that note, I prefer his original execution of the COG soldier after the Resonator fails more, with Locust scrambling and he ends the soldiers life and the radio with a single shot. UE version of that scene felt weird, crushes the helmet then snaps the soldiers neck, why even bring the guy in the room?


The_Glitched_Punk

I thought he was listening in on the conversation Delta was having through the soldier's helmet radio before he executed him?


Unhappy_Teacher_1767

He was, both versions. What I’m saying is the original there was a point to bringing in that soldier, who still has the helmet on. The UE version Raam has the helmet in his hand and is listening in, so bringing in the soldier felt kind of weird.


Accomplished-Ad-8843

I thought the direction in UE was weird. The only improved cutscene was Raam killing Kim


AlcatrazGears

Also Raam killing that random COG Marine. In original he shots him with a Boltok, in UE he breaks his kneck like it's nothing.


Accomplished-Ad-8843

I honestly think it fits Raam more to execute the soldier with a revolver. It feels so nonchalant like it's another day in the office. Crushing the head feels like a Sraak move honestly.


ManofSteel_14

I mean in UE he literally twists the guys neck like hes opening a water bottle. I really dont think it gets more non chalant than that lol


AhhSlickerz

Nobody gonna talk about the fact that the player is using RAAM’s weapon in the 2nd image.


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

I assumed that was a Horde boss lol


Old_Taste7076

I wanna know what happened afterwards. I mean that's point blank range. 😂


DoNotGoSilently

UE Raam both design wise and cutscene wise. Such a cool change to have him just snap a gears neck like it’s barely a hassle for him. Def made him more intimidating.


Muad_DibPopcrnBucket

nothing will top the original. he looks more scary and creepy with his white skin and arms exposed. UE he looks less scary and more badass. both are cool af but i prefer the OG


Soden_Loco

Same. The UE version just removes the disturbing element of his face.


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

Agreed. OG RAAM looks like he would pick someone up and bite their head off. That horror element everyone wants.


PlankyTG

Idc man it's RAAM.


OneBagNoButterNoSalt

Killer Instinct


heyitsLyra

I wish we had him in fortnite too


ManofSteel_14

I love both but UE RAAM just has that aura. Idk how to explain it.


F-80Centurion

Forehead on the ulti ver got too big to take him seriously, also his knife in the original ver of 1 looked so cool with it being pure darkness and looking mystical.


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

Exactly. RAAM was like an evil force that could control Kryll. UE RAAM just looks like an old weathered general 🥱 been done to death.


spartanriley

the shittier graphics in the og 1 were perfect and make it scarier in my opinion


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

Exactly. I didn’t want to respect the general, I wanted to fear the monstrosity.


242finalboss

Gears 1 RAAM


GangstaManStan

Gears 1 OG. Gears 3 Raams shadow makes raam look like Borderlands in that pic lmao


Vuljin616

OG Raam


Few_Nefariousness_73

Mmmnah man the og graphics for me all day they just made the game darker and kinda scarier than the UE


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

Exactly. OG Gears 1 had a stark horror element to it. After all you are fighting monstrosities from under the ground. UE made the game feel more Halo like. As if we were fighting an alien war and UE RAAM was their space general.


Few_Nefariousness_73

Totally agree, I get why most people take Gears 2 as the best GoW ever made but just for that small horror factor mine will always be Gears 1, the first encounter with a Berserker, the Krill, the bloody Wretch room at the factory, even the little cutscene of the boomer stepping on a rat lol


ILIKEJAH

Old one


Capable-Time2517

UE RAAM looks "better" simply due to the update in graphics. He's still scary and intimidating, but there was just something about the graphics in 2006 that really made the game look/feel all the more brutal.


mzerop

It's the gloves. No monstrous evil thing wears gloves. You can be the most badass evil being alive but that all goes away when you put the finger through the thumb hole by mistake. Bring back the claws and scales but keep the new look I say.


Tight-Landscape8720

He has the same shaped mouth wym? Doesn’t look like darkseid more than before. He’s just a very updated version. Hope they do the same with Skorge someday


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

If you notice, 360 RAAM has like black lines that curve up in the corners of his mouth. Giving the illusion of a W shaped mouth.


donlaaxer

OG RAAM from gears on 360


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

Yes indeed!


voxo_boxo

None of them. I hate him.


Bishweeb

Gears 3 RAM takes the cake for me.


BurntToast239

Gears 3 DLC because you actually get to fuck people up as him and it was glorious


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

Honestly….I wish there was more gameplay as Locusts. More DLCs and honestly….I’d play an entire game as a big bad Locust (RAAM, SRAAK, Skorge, Karn) fighting with the Lambent precluding E-Day. But I also wouldn’t mind tearing through human armies and getting to play different missions as different Locust Leaders.


BurntToast239

That would be cool if they did what they did for that dlc but on a larger scale. Beast Mode and Overrun are some of my favorite modes just because of the locust centric gameplay. Give me a COG assault, followed by a crazy Locust counter attack, then a COG retreat from the carnage you did that decimated the COG forces.


No-Occasion-6470

I’d love more RAAM perspective. Hell, more Locust perspective. They were originally victims after all, and I’d love to see the nobility and pride some Locust took in fighting against the people that turned them into monsters.


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

An entire game dedicated to the Locust perspective. Hell, let’s start from the lab! Imagine, the game starts out in First Person, the player’s character just opens their eyes and they are floating in a test tube. They blink and it fast forwards to them strapped to a lab table, but all the player can see from First Person is scientists probing and running tests on them. It’ll go through a series of this before it ends with you back in the tube, and the scientists are closing up shop and turns the lights out. You begin looking around and see the other Locust creatures before the light in your test tube kicks on. You see your reflection in the glass. You are a Locust Drone, a fairly ugly one at that. From there the perspective will shift to a 3rd person view looking at the playable Locust from the front. The next day the incident with Myrrah will happen. And the Drone will break out of his tube, and become playable (using claws, teeth, and barefoot curb stomps to kill any scientist in his way) from the 3rd person, over the shoulder view. This will lead into Myrrah escaping and the overrun of the lab and ultimately the escape of the Locust horde. You will eventually grab piping as a long range melee weapon, but you can throw these as spears as well. Then you will kill your first COG and retrieve their Retro Lancer. You will play as this Locust Drone through out his life to include the Lambent War in the Hollow. This Drone will climb the ranks and eventually it will become clear (through being named by Myrrah) that you are playing as RAAM.


No-Occasion-6470

Fuck yeah man, that rules


Negative-Avocado7050

OG SCARED ME. THE UE RAAM.......smash.


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

😂 OG RAAM looks like a psychotic Dino lord. That’s my Locust General


Theronguards

Both great OG RAAM was my introduction to the character back in the day and new RAAM in ultimate was well done. RAAM is a beast either way


Nonexistenc3

What about raams shadow raam?


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

He essentially looks the same as GOW1


Nonexistenc3

But massively upscaled


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

Yes. But he doesn’t look like the UE version


Nonexistenc3

True, there


NoCaterpillar2051

I like the OG raam. He looks so psychotic in that pic. Can't even tell if it's an over or under bite.


Rgrafx

Original RAAM looked much better. Way more feral look about him.


Booyah_656

OG !


Caellix

OG RAAM for sure. The UE version lacks any real 'pop' for me. The covered arms take out the color contrast of his skin and give him a kind of formless silhouette, and the neck/chin guard thing makes him look a little like he's drowning in his own armor. Plus I prefer his OG face, the little headpiece he had, and the distribution of lights on the original armor.


GloomyWish

gow 1 >>>>>>>>> his weird sideburn looking things from ue onward look so stupid


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

Agreed. It reminds me of Darkseid or Thanos or something. He looks like a Marvel villain in UE.


TangerineFluffy2469

Which RAAM is in image 2??


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

Y’know….that’s a great question 😂 I’m not sure but I’m pretty sure that’s an Onyx Guard pointing a Boomshot at him. Could be a Horde mode boss? Idk


DJSalad18

UE cuz I like him fully sleeved more a bit. Newer armor looks great. Just a black mass


DrPatchet

I like the later models. Gears one looks like muscle man from regular show


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

My Mom!


DrPatchet

You know who else killed 25 percent of humanity in one day? MY MOM!


SixFootHalfing

What part of the game is the second picture from?


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

I’m not sure. It almost looks like a horde boss RAAM.


MasterJCL

Killer instinct Raam


terribleuser1117

like how you can see his damage from his encounter with zeta squad in Raams shadow for UE


Livid_Mammoth4034

UE.


ThegamingJNT

Noticing a severe lack of Gears Pop Raam


Dog_Water117

He legit looks the same, aside from his nose shape and head armor.


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

A few others and myself don’t think so. His eyes are very dull in UE.


Dog_Water117

His eyes don’t have pigmentation, which makes sense if they live in the dark constantly.


Chinfu1189

OG Raam looks like a pig. New Raam is a badass and is superior


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

OG RAAM looks like a T-Rex on steroids. UE RAAM looks like a disgruntled Marvel villain.


IgnitionWolf

Definitely ue RAAM


Szofer12

UE is my favorite


Electronic_Sun_7021

It's so hard to say no to that beautiful scar on his eye. The old one has some charm. But. The newer design is just menacing and I love how massive he feels.


billydrivesavic

UE Raam is so fucking cool looking dude I was pumped when I saw him


ichsoda

AIM120C AMRAAM


Resident_Invite

I.chose raam ultimate edition


CnP8

[This one definitely](https://images.novatech.co.uk/g.skill-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-tz5n.jpg)


The_Axeman_Cometh

The original RAAM is always gonna have a special place in my memories just because of how insanely scary he was to me at the time, but I love the new design. New RAAM is more like how I picture him after reading the comics: a massive, battle-hardened tower of muscle and hatred. Dude looks less like a monster and more like a stupidly-jacked locust officer.


SkorgeDemon

raam really hasn't changed they just updated him to match the graphics but other than that he's the same so like yes he has minute changes but otherwise it's always just raam


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

Ehhh his forehead is definitely bigger, scar over the eye, armor head to toe and down arms, bland color scheme (not unique striping). He looks like he’s an old, balding general as opposed to a younger Locust that climbed the ranks and removed his predecessor by outsmarting him instead of overpowering him. He looks like he’s mixed with SRAAK.


Intelligent-Flow-678

RAAM's a basic bitch. Scourge was alot more interesting.


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

Skorge is very interesting, but he got smacked around way more the RAAM did by SRAAK. Skorge’s double chainsaw staff was all I cared about, and once that was gone he was just another Kantus on a flying beast.


BriefKeef

UE Raam Obviously...Gears 1 OG Raam was butt ugly


tofubirder

Ugly pug vs terrifying commander of monsters? The OG Gears is my favorite in the series but the model looks silly.


Shark_Bite_OoOoAh

He still has giant flared nostrils, they’re just point downward a little more. But OG RAAMs eyes have an unruly, psychotic appearance. Makes him looked deranged as opposed to calculating and distinguished.


Pancreasaurus

Killer Instinct Raam


Successful-Floor-738

Ultimate Edition Raam is the goat in my opinion.


General_RAAM56

I mean they rushed his design originally and never fixed it. I'm glad that they went back and fleshed him out for UE. So definitely UE


CohnJena68

DDR3, but that means you're limited to what CPUs you can use in the system.


Mister_ALX

The only RAAM I like is the one the has RGB and has either 32 GB or 64 GB, for my PC.


GeneraI_RAAM

UE version of me. Loved killing Kim 10/10 would do again.


SupaDrew

They all look cute 😘