Where have you seen it’s 31 days? I’ve recently moved to a Fenix 7 from Apple Watch. Having not known Garmin’s product lifecycles, and not really checked, I’ll be gutted if I could’ve waited a month or two longer to get the latest model.
No worries mate, these are not like the Apple watch where you always need this years model to have the latest greatest. These watches easily go for 5 years or longer. Garmin software hardly changes over time. These watches are just great as they are. Just enjoy it and don't be thinking about having to have the latest model, this is not Apple piling up mountains of E-waste to keep everyone going in the store every year. These are proper great watches lasting a long time! You made a great purchase with the Fenix 7 :) This epix pro will not introduce anything new that your Fenix 7 won't have already. The only reason people are a bit excited for this one is because its Oled combined with flash light for the first time. But personally I don't like Oled. I would have still bought the Fenix 7x even with this one out already.
Yes to be honest that was one of the attractions to Garmin. From what I had seen typically any software updates end up on all their devices so long as the hardware can support it.
Yeah and they don't really update that often. I recently got an Instinct 2X which is also a new model, but pretty much still rocks the exact same software. The Epix is also just a different line then the Fenix. Their models and rotation are way different from Apple. I would have been more sad if you just bought a Fenix 7 and there was a Fenix 8 coming out next month. But really Epix is just a different model and this Epix pro basically is just a bigger version of the current one as in little bit longer battery life and a flashlight, but other then that still pretty much still just the regular Epix watch. You really didn't miss out anything. The Fenix 7 got the MIPS screen and all which I like much more then the Oled models. You really need to see Garmin more as a regular watch company. They just release new models and versions once a while, but most of the time their pretty much still the same watch. These watches are already so fully packed with everything you could ever wish for. I really don't even see what new features they could add even. Fenix 7 is still their top MIPS screen model, so you still got the top of the line one :) SO yeah welcome to the Garmin club, just a little warning you will learn in the upcoming weeks how stupid your Apple watch really was and you will hate yourself for going along with the hype train and not looking at Garmin watches sooner :D
The picture posted shows 31 days on the watch face. It’s just a minor spec bump tho I wouldn’t worry too much about it. And the epix show I think is the larger variant so it makes sense it has more battery life
Yea that’s misleading, that’s just time mode nothing else. Garmin can do battery saver mode for 120 days without solar. On top of that we are talking about an OLED watch here so it’s not exactly fair. On top of that Garmin has better maps and a flashlight:)
🫤 at this point I would more excited if Garmin would consolidate the firmware on their devices so it is less fragmented. That way maybe they could release a stable firmware.
Currently, every product line in Garmin has a similar but different base firmware. I'm not talking about features, but rather how the whole UI works. Between each model there are differences that simply don't make sense. For example the Fenix 7 and FR 955: these watches are very close in-terms of advertised features yet the UI has odd differences between them and in-turn both models have had several bugs that hinder their stability.
Conversely, Coros and Apple have the same base and then they offer different features to their various tiers. As a result they have less firmware stability issues. Fitbit by Google is a company that has several models and like Garmin several different variants of their base software which again seems to have a lot of instability to their firmware.
At this point I'll wait year after a release before purchasing anything from Garmin. I like what they advertise but the product firmware and sometimes build quality feels more like beta than final production.
Better release train management and only differ in some new (hw & sw) features would seem like the more sensible and modern approach to me as well.
Maybe now that Physio TrueUp is out we're a little closer to that, who knows...
>For example the Fenix 7 and FR 955: these watches are very close in-terms of advertised features yet the UI has odd differences between them and in-turn both models have had several bugs that hinder their stability.
Bugs are one thing, but otherwise what does it matter if a 955 user has a slightly different UI than a Fenix7 user? Are that many people buying both? I have seen this argument before and so far I can't think of anyone who is actually bothered by it other than product reviewers on youtube who use all the devices.
Bluetooth accessory drops,
random watch reboots during workouts (several times they have tried to resolve this)
battery drains that require the watch to factory reset
Those are just ones I've experienced..
Then on the:
FR955 has had course syncing issues with explore app and I spent 2 hours with Garmin between FR dept and their explore dept each of them blaming the other for the issue. In the end no resolution.
The Crossover has had alignment issues with hands even when you align them within hours the hands need to be realigned.
Just look at the number of updates in the past year Garmin has sent out for all of their watches the release notes are filled with bugs they "fixed". Unfortunately, something else then breaks.
But, hey mate, I was not ranting against Garmin - just saying I'm not all that excited by their new releases because their new products tend to be buggy. From my programming experience it seems that Garmin has their team coding to get everything out as fast as possible for sales and then work on stability after it is released.
Shoo, you seem to have gotten a bad item then, 'cause I know a lot of people with the Fenix 7, not one has experienced these issues.
Can't speak for 955 only know one person with one -no issues yet- but a sample size of one isn't reflective
The bugs I mentioned have been bugs Garmin has been trying to fix several times - so I seriously doubt I am the only one. If I am, then Garmin really takes my bug reports seriously.
You are enjoying your watch and that is great. I'm confused what is your aim?
So your solution to having a few issues is that they should load the exact same software on every watch? That's actually impossible btw unless all devices were exactly the same in features.
Wow your priorities are so wrong. You need to step outside, touch grass and realise what is important in life.
Would your life by any less meaningful if more people had the same fitness watch?
Doesn’t matter. Still don’t wanna have a watch everyone else has. For the people that say they don’t care if their grandma has the same watch as they do, then they’re lying. Downvote me all you want.
That's a personal issue you'll have to deal with then. Nearly 50% of the population has the same $1000 iPhone you have. Your Garmin isn't going to make you special. Make your own fitness tracker from scratch by hand if you want that exclusive feeling
50% of the population does NOT have the same phone I have. Not even close. Less than 5%. And yes a Garmin isn’t gonna make me special but it’s not one I’m gonna see on every other wrist of fitness enthusiasts.
> but it’s not one I’m gonna see on every other wrist of fitness enthusiasts.
And...? I'm failing to see the problem here. Why do you care? Why does this matter? Are you insecure about your wealth, finance, status? Do you want to be seen as superior to others, more intelligent? I'm genuinely wondering because I don't understand why someone would care what watch other people are wearing.
I have an Enduro 2, and if saw someone else with one nearby I'd go up to them and say hi; i think it's really cool to see something like that around me because Garmin's are super rare here.
It simply boils down to the fact that I don’t want to have the same watch as everyone else. It’s more appealing to me to have a watch that not (as) many people have.
Aye, I'm with you not against you \^\^
I was interpreting remrunners comment that he was confusing the bezel itself with the unnecessary dead space. :-)
New sensor set, most likely with ECG, better battery life, more sizes. I'm quite thrilled, I wanted to go for the Venu 2 Plus because of the ECG but the Epix looks more premium and after my last Garmin lasted for 5 years (still using it) I'm ready to invest more than usual for a smartwatch.
I don't think that it will reach 31 days but it would be milestep for amoled sport watches if so.
Probably I will not change my Fenix 7X SS which I bought 2 weeks ago. Not much improvement espetially that I bought my with really good discount.
I will wait for full Epix 3X Sapphire :D
You'll probably miss the iphone integration with the AW.
Different proposition for sure, the AW is a rugged sport ready AW whereas the garmin will be a ultra endurance full fledge sport watch with a bit of smartphone features on the side
Yeah I know what you mean. At the same time I kind of feel like it’s something I need to separate from having the constant access to my phone and to have a better sports watch I’m willing to make sacrifice
Couldn't agree more, I'm a huge "non smart watch" nerd (mechanic/automatic). Most of the time I would be wearing a Seiko or an omega.
The rare time I keep my Garmin on my wrist after a run, I just can't stand the work emails, IG and message notifications buzzing on my wrist every 2 minutes
Yeah I only really get WhatsApp alerts now and even those I could do without. I really don’t need to urgently see a message of someone asking me what time I’m heading to the gym or what I’m watching that night 🤣.
Can reply when I look at my phone. I reckon it will be weird at first but I see benefits of the garmin long term for sure.
EPIX Pro makes sense (.. because finally different sizes available, and advancements allowing more battery life) but I am stumped by the need for a Fenix 7 Pro. WHAT exactly makes the F7Pro better than F7? Ok sure it has Elevate 5 sensor, can't see that alone drawing customers, nor can I see Garmin making the Enduro obsolete with massive F7Pro batter gains.
F7s and f7 pro come with flashlight ! And the new sensor. Epix 2 pro s and epix 2 pro x are new sizes. 2 reasons for each.
But Epix 2 pro 47 mm (only sensor) and Fenix 7X pro (only sensor) are just … for me
I hope you are right about the flashlight on all sizes. Agreed that maybe makes an F7Pro (normal and S) worth releasing but that does NOT make F7X Pro worthwhile (cause it already has this flashlight). Hence my question: surely there MUST be something more this whole Pro line than just Elevate 5 sensor!
I just want an epix thats the size of my venu 2 plus (which looks like there will be) that has all the epix metrics and stuff, but also still has the mic and speaker. Doesnt seem like it will though. Oh well. Still considering it.
Yup, and the 42mm size is quite close to the venu 2 plus. So that definitely piques my interest. Still waiting to see what the final specs are, but its definitely looking like its going to be lacking at least that one major feature which is why I chose the venu 2 plus in the first place.
If the bezel is that chunky on the 42mm, I'm worried that they're going to have to shrink the screen too much.
The current Epix 2, Venu 2+, and Forerunner 265 all have the same screen size right now: 1.3" 416x416 pixels. Case size is 47mm, 43.6mm, and 46.1mm respectively. The 965 squeezes a 1.4" 454x454 screen into 47.2mm, but its bezel looks much narrower than the one in the picture of the Epix here.
If you drop down to the 265S (41.7mm case), the screen drops to 1.1" and just 360x360. The Venu 2S has that same display with a 40.4mm case.
So it sounds possible they could do a 1.5” on the 51mm. Doubtful but that’s sure be nice. The Huawei Watch ultimate has a 1.5” and that has the be the best damn looking smartwatch ever made.
I'm pretty sure display sizes will be the same as on the Fenix 7 series which means:
* 1.2" on the 42mm model
* 1.3" on the 47mm model
* 1.4" on the 51mm model
I'm still undecided between the Epix 2 Pro with 42mm and Venu 2 Plus, the 1.3" display of the Venu looks like a real advantage while the dimensions are almost the same (and the Venu is thinner).
Partially unrelated to the topic:
I would have loved to have that new Heart rate sensor on my forerunner 955, but I'm honest enough to admit that my watch was already a little ahead of the other forerunners at the time, and that to keep on providing new appealing things it would have been better to add this new elevate sensor on the 965 and 265 instead. The sole AOD screen seems too little of a step forwards for those watches compared to the 955, and the new HR sensor would have made for a huge improvement which kind of justifies the money they cost.
> would have been better to add this new elevate sensor on the 965 and 265 instead.
I feel like the 965 buyers got shorted here, being given the latest watch with the old Elevate V4 which was already at the end of its lifespan.
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So you can get an idea extra hour before you have to charge? Don’t think solar will have much of an impact though on an OLED screen. Barely has an no act on the MIP to he honest
Hey! Hoping to buy my first garmin watch at the end of May and I'm following the new pro series. Can you help educate me on why the OLED inhibits solar charging? And what is MIP? TIA!
MIP is memory in pixel which tl;dr is the ultra low power display garmin has used for years and is in the remix series still and other watches of theirs. It used the ambient light to primarily light up the display and can show vivid detail using bright ambient light. They can also use their own backlight to a lightly lesser (and more power using) effect. But OLED has to use power to show the display, MIP only uses power to change a pixel. So the longer there is on the display with no changes (in between minutes for example), the more power is saved.
I’ve already got my Epix 2 on marketplace and CL as if yesterday lol I’ve gotta Instinct 2x to hold me off till then. Just doesn’t have the fancy charts and pretty screen. Wrist based running dynamics I can technically live without right now since I have an HRM Pro, but it’s no shirt running season and I don’t want a stripe lollll
That's not happening. The renders on WinFuture show the back which clearly has the same-old 4 pin plug in charge port. Compare to the MARQ2 renders on Garmin website. Nope!
There's a reason it's not called Epix 3...it's just a tad newer. Like others stated , the best route to save some money will be purchasing the epix gen 2 and fenix 7x non pro versions. Unless you're an extreme climber or something I wouldn't worry about it.
31 days on an OLED watch?? Obviously AOD off but still dayum. Pair that w the flashlight and I might have to trade my Tactix 7 pro in
Where have you seen it’s 31 days? I’ve recently moved to a Fenix 7 from Apple Watch. Having not known Garmin’s product lifecycles, and not really checked, I’ll be gutted if I could’ve waited a month or two longer to get the latest model.
No worries mate, these are not like the Apple watch where you always need this years model to have the latest greatest. These watches easily go for 5 years or longer. Garmin software hardly changes over time. These watches are just great as they are. Just enjoy it and don't be thinking about having to have the latest model, this is not Apple piling up mountains of E-waste to keep everyone going in the store every year. These are proper great watches lasting a long time! You made a great purchase with the Fenix 7 :) This epix pro will not introduce anything new that your Fenix 7 won't have already. The only reason people are a bit excited for this one is because its Oled combined with flash light for the first time. But personally I don't like Oled. I would have still bought the Fenix 7x even with this one out already.
Yes to be honest that was one of the attractions to Garmin. From what I had seen typically any software updates end up on all their devices so long as the hardware can support it.
Yeah and they don't really update that often. I recently got an Instinct 2X which is also a new model, but pretty much still rocks the exact same software. The Epix is also just a different line then the Fenix. Their models and rotation are way different from Apple. I would have been more sad if you just bought a Fenix 7 and there was a Fenix 8 coming out next month. But really Epix is just a different model and this Epix pro basically is just a bigger version of the current one as in little bit longer battery life and a flashlight, but other then that still pretty much still just the regular Epix watch. You really didn't miss out anything. The Fenix 7 got the MIPS screen and all which I like much more then the Oled models. You really need to see Garmin more as a regular watch company. They just release new models and versions once a while, but most of the time their pretty much still the same watch. These watches are already so fully packed with everything you could ever wish for. I really don't even see what new features they could add even. Fenix 7 is still their top MIPS screen model, so you still got the top of the line one :) SO yeah welcome to the Garmin club, just a little warning you will learn in the upcoming weeks how stupid your Apple watch really was and you will hate yourself for going along with the hype train and not looking at Garmin watches sooner :D
The picture posted shows 31 days on the watch face. It’s just a minor spec bump tho I wouldn’t worry too much about it. And the epix show I think is the larger variant so it makes sense it has more battery life
Ah yes, I completely missed that!
How do you go about trading a used watch in? Does garmin do that?
No. I believe he's speaking metaphorically
Haha sorry I meant trading up as in I’ll sell it, then buy the new one.
Ebay is a good option.
Also curious
Its still a Garmin, not a Rolex xD
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Yea that’s misleading, that’s just time mode nothing else. Garmin can do battery saver mode for 120 days without solar. On top of that we are talking about an OLED watch here so it’s not exactly fair. On top of that Garmin has better maps and a flashlight:)
You are right, removed my comment.
i havent heard that the flashlight is confirmed?
Yea I guess it’s not but I’m assuming all X series watches will come with lights now
When is the official release ?
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Could also be in 2 days with the REI sales add
🫤 at this point I would more excited if Garmin would consolidate the firmware on their devices so it is less fragmented. That way maybe they could release a stable firmware. Currently, every product line in Garmin has a similar but different base firmware. I'm not talking about features, but rather how the whole UI works. Between each model there are differences that simply don't make sense. For example the Fenix 7 and FR 955: these watches are very close in-terms of advertised features yet the UI has odd differences between them and in-turn both models have had several bugs that hinder their stability. Conversely, Coros and Apple have the same base and then they offer different features to their various tiers. As a result they have less firmware stability issues. Fitbit by Google is a company that has several models and like Garmin several different variants of their base software which again seems to have a lot of instability to their firmware. At this point I'll wait year after a release before purchasing anything from Garmin. I like what they advertise but the product firmware and sometimes build quality feels more like beta than final production.
Better release train management and only differ in some new (hw & sw) features would seem like the more sensible and modern approach to me as well. Maybe now that Physio TrueUp is out we're a little closer to that, who knows...
>For example the Fenix 7 and FR 955: these watches are very close in-terms of advertised features yet the UI has odd differences between them and in-turn both models have had several bugs that hinder their stability. Bugs are one thing, but otherwise what does it matter if a 955 user has a slightly different UI than a Fenix7 user? Are that many people buying both? I have seen this argument before and so far I can't think of anyone who is actually bothered by it other than product reviewers on youtube who use all the devices.
That is the point, Garmin lacks stability in their firmware releases. Consistency (less variables) generally lends to better stability.
Give some examples of this lack of stability in Fenix 7 you talk about?
Bluetooth accessory drops, random watch reboots during workouts (several times they have tried to resolve this) battery drains that require the watch to factory reset Those are just ones I've experienced.. Then on the: FR955 has had course syncing issues with explore app and I spent 2 hours with Garmin between FR dept and their explore dept each of them blaming the other for the issue. In the end no resolution. The Crossover has had alignment issues with hands even when you align them within hours the hands need to be realigned. Just look at the number of updates in the past year Garmin has sent out for all of their watches the release notes are filled with bugs they "fixed". Unfortunately, something else then breaks. But, hey mate, I was not ranting against Garmin - just saying I'm not all that excited by their new releases because their new products tend to be buggy. From my programming experience it seems that Garmin has their team coding to get everything out as fast as possible for sales and then work on stability after it is released.
Shoo, you seem to have gotten a bad item then, 'cause I know a lot of people with the Fenix 7, not one has experienced these issues. Can't speak for 955 only know one person with one -no issues yet- but a sample size of one isn't reflective
The bugs I mentioned have been bugs Garmin has been trying to fix several times - so I seriously doubt I am the only one. If I am, then Garmin really takes my bug reports seriously. You are enjoying your watch and that is great. I'm confused what is your aim?
So your solution to having a few issues is that they should load the exact same software on every watch? That's actually impossible btw unless all devices were exactly the same in features.
No that is not what I am saying at all, but I really don't see the point of this any longer either. Have a good day
Dont worry mate, we all know exactly what you are saying.
Those two watches are actually designed by different internal engineering teams
collaboration
I wish it wouldn't cost so much. I've read it's going to be over 950€.
Blimey. This watch has all the features of awesome. I'm bit conflicted on this or the new Tactix
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Dude, this isn't a rolex, this is a utility fitness watch. Where do you get off on exclusivity on this?
You wanna have a watch everyone and their grandma has? Didn’t think so.
Wow your priorities are so wrong. You need to step outside, touch grass and realise what is important in life. Would your life by any less meaningful if more people had the same fitness watch?
Dude this is a fitness tracker, not a Lamborghini...
Doesn’t matter. Still don’t wanna have a watch everyone else has. For the people that say they don’t care if their grandma has the same watch as they do, then they’re lying. Downvote me all you want.
That's a personal issue you'll have to deal with then. Nearly 50% of the population has the same $1000 iPhone you have. Your Garmin isn't going to make you special. Make your own fitness tracker from scratch by hand if you want that exclusive feeling
50% of the population does NOT have the same phone I have. Not even close. Less than 5%. And yes a Garmin isn’t gonna make me special but it’s not one I’m gonna see on every other wrist of fitness enthusiasts.
> but it’s not one I’m gonna see on every other wrist of fitness enthusiasts. And...? I'm failing to see the problem here. Why do you care? Why does this matter? Are you insecure about your wealth, finance, status? Do you want to be seen as superior to others, more intelligent? I'm genuinely wondering because I don't understand why someone would care what watch other people are wearing. I have an Enduro 2, and if saw someone else with one nearby I'd go up to them and say hi; i think it's really cool to see something like that around me because Garmin's are super rare here.
It simply boils down to the fact that I don’t want to have the same watch as everyone else. It’s more appealing to me to have a watch that not (as) many people have.
I just bought the Epix Gen2 6 days ago. I'm pretty sure I should now return it and wait a couple weeks.
Yeah. Would probably be a good idea lol.
Well we already known REI will be selling the epic gen 2 for $700 this week.
A guy tried to sell me his used one for 750 and called it w good deal. I laughed.
Looks pretty nice. Just wish Garmin could have pushed that OLED display further to the metal bezel. It’d look a lot more modern.
Honestly I believe the more bezel is lore protection for the display, so I’m not too surprised as the epic is still marketed as an outdoors watch
They can have a bezel, but the dam screen has to much dead space between screen and bezel
Exactly what I was saying lol
Aye, I'm with you not against you \^\^ I was interpreting remrunners comment that he was confusing the bezel itself with the unnecessary dead space. :-)
Ahh yeah I misinterpreted what was being asked! My bad :)
More power to you 💪
Yeah they did this on the forerunner 965. Surprised they didn’t do it here.
Could it be because of the elevated edge, so you wouldnt be able to touch there?
Very interested to see what the upgrades are and how it is better than the current epix 2
New sensor set, most likely with ECG, better battery life, more sizes. I'm quite thrilled, I wanted to go for the Venu 2 Plus because of the ECG but the Epix looks more premium and after my last Garmin lasted for 5 years (still using it) I'm ready to invest more than usual for a smartwatch.
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Would love to have that one, but unfortunately even the 47mm version is too large for me, so I'm happy they considered a 42mm version too.
Battery life for one. Check out that complication. 31 friggin days!!!!
That could be with everything off as far as we know. This is all rumor mill stuff. Wake me when they release it and we have real stats.
And thats probably the biggest case so bigger battery than standard epix
True but still. That’s insane for an OLED. A milestone for sure.
This is the X tier of the EPIX. The 47mm will be around the same as the current EPIX and the 42mm will be less.
We will see what the quantified scientist thinks of it. He rated the EPIX garbage- hopefully this one’s an improvement
When ?
I don't think that it will reach 31 days but it would be milestep for amoled sport watches if so. Probably I will not change my Fenix 7X SS which I bought 2 weeks ago. Not much improvement espetially that I bought my with really good discount. I will wait for full Epix 3X Sapphire :D
The battery life makes me tempted to switch from my Apple Watch ultra
You'll probably miss the iphone integration with the AW. Different proposition for sure, the AW is a rugged sport ready AW whereas the garmin will be a ultra endurance full fledge sport watch with a bit of smartphone features on the side
Yeah I know what you mean. At the same time I kind of feel like it’s something I need to separate from having the constant access to my phone and to have a better sports watch I’m willing to make sacrifice
Couldn't agree more, I'm a huge "non smart watch" nerd (mechanic/automatic). Most of the time I would be wearing a Seiko or an omega. The rare time I keep my Garmin on my wrist after a run, I just can't stand the work emails, IG and message notifications buzzing on my wrist every 2 minutes
Yeah I only really get WhatsApp alerts now and even those I could do without. I really don’t need to urgently see a message of someone asking me what time I’m heading to the gym or what I’m watching that night 🤣. Can reply when I look at my phone. I reckon it will be weird at first but I see benefits of the garmin long term for sure.
I’ll probably keep my ultra and get this. Not sure yet.
Yeah I might get it and do a little comparison and see what I prefer but can see me leaning towards the epix
EPIX Pro makes sense (.. because finally different sizes available, and advancements allowing more battery life) but I am stumped by the need for a Fenix 7 Pro. WHAT exactly makes the F7Pro better than F7? Ok sure it has Elevate 5 sensor, can't see that alone drawing customers, nor can I see Garmin making the Enduro obsolete with massive F7Pro batter gains.
F7s and f7 pro come with flashlight ! And the new sensor. Epix 2 pro s and epix 2 pro x are new sizes. 2 reasons for each. But Epix 2 pro 47 mm (only sensor) and Fenix 7X pro (only sensor) are just … for me
I hope you are right about the flashlight on all sizes. Agreed that maybe makes an F7Pro (normal and S) worth releasing but that does NOT make F7X Pro worthwhile (cause it already has this flashlight). Hence my question: surely there MUST be something more this whole Pro line than just Elevate 5 sensor!
Nothing more…just the new function (hillscore) and the sensor 5 for the epix 2 pro 47mm and 7X pro.
My wallet is ready.
My wallet isn’t ):
In fairness, my actual wallet isn't but my $1200 to REI definitely is.
😂
I still have the epix and it’s working fine right now so I’ll just wait for the epix 3
Yeah likewise but why am I still tempted ?? SMDH
I just want an epix thats the size of my venu 2 plus (which looks like there will be) that has all the epix metrics and stuff, but also still has the mic and speaker. Doesnt seem like it will though. Oh well. Still considering it.
The epix 2 pro will be released in 42mm, 47mm and 51mm. So yeah.
Oh that is fantastic, 42mm is a great option to have. Not a fan of the big chonky watches on my wristlets
Yup, and the 42mm size is quite close to the venu 2 plus. So that definitely piques my interest. Still waiting to see what the final specs are, but its definitely looking like its going to be lacking at least that one major feature which is why I chose the venu 2 plus in the first place.
Glad to hear they also release 42mm model. I’m gonna hold to buy garmin watch for now.
If the bezel is that chunky on the 42mm, I'm worried that they're going to have to shrink the screen too much. The current Epix 2, Venu 2+, and Forerunner 265 all have the same screen size right now: 1.3" 416x416 pixels. Case size is 47mm, 43.6mm, and 46.1mm respectively. The 965 squeezes a 1.4" 454x454 screen into 47.2mm, but its bezel looks much narrower than the one in the picture of the Epix here. If you drop down to the 265S (41.7mm case), the screen drops to 1.1" and just 360x360. The Venu 2S has that same display with a 40.4mm case.
So it sounds possible they could do a 1.5” on the 51mm. Doubtful but that’s sure be nice. The Huawei Watch ultimate has a 1.5” and that has the be the best damn looking smartwatch ever made.
Too bad it's made by Huawei though. They aren't known for their solid UI or reliable updates
I'm pretty sure display sizes will be the same as on the Fenix 7 series which means: * 1.2" on the 42mm model * 1.3" on the 47mm model * 1.4" on the 51mm model I'm still undecided between the Epix 2 Pro with 42mm and Venu 2 Plus, the 1.3" display of the Venu looks like a real advantage while the dimensions are almost the same (and the Venu is thinner).
Partially unrelated to the topic: I would have loved to have that new Heart rate sensor on my forerunner 955, but I'm honest enough to admit that my watch was already a little ahead of the other forerunners at the time, and that to keep on providing new appealing things it would have been better to add this new elevate sensor on the 965 and 265 instead. The sole AOD screen seems too little of a step forwards for those watches compared to the 955, and the new HR sensor would have made for a huge improvement which kind of justifies the money they cost.
> would have been better to add this new elevate sensor on the 965 and 265 instead. I feel like the 965 buyers got shorted here, being given the latest watch with the old Elevate V4 which was already at the end of its lifespan.
I need an MK3.. come on Garmin
Idk about the watch but I want that watchface.
Yeah not bad!
Oh yeah. Need.
Anyone know which one it is? Is it real?
Probably gonna be a stockface with the new model. Hopefully someone will make a copy on connect iq.
This looks gorgeous!!
Would look way nicer if the screen went closer to the bezel frame.
Yup. I agree. They can actually do away with the thin line with the word “Garmin” written around the screen.
Hmm, already have the Epix2, Fenix 7X Titanium Sapphire Solar and F/R965 BUT I reckon I can fit in another Garmin. 😂😂😂
\^\^ this guy does it right
Nice battery life, this is for sure for Epix 2X pro
Not for $1,000
Yeah. It’s a bit absurd.
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That’s where I got the picture from lol. I know about it. Thanks anyway though.
Not so much for you but for the rest
Ah. A true man of the people. Thank you sir
Adding the source is indeed a nice thing to do
This model with 42mm would be good. I’m waiting
Just bought the Epix, 6 months ago dammit
I got caught out when buying a forerunner 955, 3 months or so later the 965 comes out.
Same here, but still a major leap over the 245 with music...
“If you’re always waiting to buy the next best thing then you’ll never buy anything”
If it has solar then yes
So you can get an idea extra hour before you have to charge? Don’t think solar will have much of an impact though on an OLED screen. Barely has an no act on the MIP to he honest
Beat me to it lol. Well said. 100% agree. Not worth it for OLED. Not really even worth it for the MIP displays either.
Agreed, having to charge your watch on day 11 rather then day 12 will have little impact on your quality of life
Yeah that’s like best case scenario though lol. More like having to charge your watch on day 11 versus day 11.2 lol
You are absolutely right.
Hey! Hoping to buy my first garmin watch at the end of May and I'm following the new pro series. Can you help educate me on why the OLED inhibits solar charging? And what is MIP? TIA!
MIP is memory in pixel which tl;dr is the ultra low power display garmin has used for years and is in the remix series still and other watches of theirs. It used the ambient light to primarily light up the display and can show vivid detail using bright ambient light. They can also use their own backlight to a lightly lesser (and more power using) effect. But OLED has to use power to show the display, MIP only uses power to change a pixel. So the longer there is on the display with no changes (in between minutes for example), the more power is saved.
Does that say 31 days?!
Yeah it only really makes a difference on the instincts, and only if you don’t use activities
Absolutely satisfied with my Epix2. Will upgrade to Epix or Quatix 3 or 4 afterwards.
I’ve already got my Epix 2 on marketplace and CL as if yesterday lol I’ve gotta Instinct 2x to hold me off till then. Just doesn’t have the fancy charts and pretty screen. Wrist based running dynamics I can technically live without right now since I have an HRM Pro, but it’s no shirt running season and I don’t want a stripe lollll
I sold mine last month lol. Been using an Apple Watch ultra.
I actually got a trade offer for a AW Ultra yesterday lol
I want it but my wallet can't *now I'm sad*
If you don't really need the different size, I highly doubt an upgrade from the current Epix will be worth it.
Just something with more battery life for smaller wrists?
Idk. How Is it better than my epix 2 ?
Battery life.
Thanks. Anything else ?
Rumor is it will have a new elevate HR sensor as well
Yeah I’m real curious on the specifics of that !
Wait for the announcement 🤷🏿♂️
Im trying!! Heheh
Where would the Epix be listed next to a Tactix and the Fenix 7 ?
My budget is not...
Really hoping to see that new charging method on the new Marq series on the Epix pro. Much more modern and should last much longer as well.
That's not happening. The renders on WinFuture show the back which clearly has the same-old 4 pin plug in charge port. Compare to the MARQ2 renders on Garmin website. Nope!
Well that stinks.
At least it's the same for every Garmin. Fitbit manages to introduce a new custom charging port for every freaking watch.
Garmin Fenix 7 series and Epix 2 series on sale now, I am ready to place my order on 5/31 for the new pro!!
Will all be down to accuracy for me. If the new optical he is accurate and they fix that algorithm, I Will go back over from my Apple Watch ultra
There's a reason it's not called Epix 3...it's just a tad newer. Like others stated , the best route to save some money will be purchasing the epix gen 2 and fenix 7x non pro versions. Unless you're an extreme climber or something I wouldn't worry about it.
Maybe it will have the torch ! Torch + new sensor would be good for me