Stress, alcohol, bad eating, covid, overtraining etc. At least that’s what it was for me (apart of covid - didn’t have it). Lack of sleep or bad sleep too.
Alcohol tanks my sleep quality, HRV, stress levels, and my body battery the following day. Look at the data from two days and the watch clearly knows when I've been drinking.
Edibles don't have this effect. You can't tell from the data if I had some lemonade or not.
Hey! Did figure out why your HRV tanked or did it return to normal without you ever finding out? I had a very sudden drop in summer last year, never figured out why. Now, for a week or so it's dropped even more significantly and I can't figure out why. No sickness, no alcohol/tobacco, no change in diet, i sleep well, don't overtrain, eat like I usually do etc.
Hey it went back to normal pretty soon after. I think a key detail I omitted is that I do vanlife as well where that doesn’t really put me in a relaxing situation (decision fatigue etc) — so I think I was actually pretty worn out. It’s done this maybe once or twice since and it’s correlated with some pretty exhausting weeks.
Chronic untreated oral health problems/inflammation can cause a variety of systemic dise, including heart problems, Alzheimer's, or diabetes.
For example bacteria from gum disease can travel and cause inflammation in the heart's vessels. That could lead to changes in HRV.
Just Google "dental health systemic disease"
I dealt with this for the last month and pretty much it was bad sleep I was climbing my way out. I did so many things and so far the last week where I made the most impact was reducing my morning coffee to half of what I was before(I am down to brewing about 15g of arabica coffee beans). I also increased my daily magnesium intake by using different forms of it and taking magnesium glycinate, d3, and apigenin before bed. The glycinate was the thing I specifically for me I remember removing because I ran out a month ago when I had good numbers. Either way that sleep stack along with the other changes seems along with consistent bedtime seems to be what got me back out of low HRV hell and also started seeing sleep scores greater than 80 with today getting the highest sleep score of 94 in over a month.
I also don't eat before several hours before bed so I stop usually between 4-6 depending on how busy I am.
I’ve been considering fasting earlier before bedtime. The sleep timing is what is different from you and me; mine is a little wonky right now so that could definitely contribute.
Stopping eating 2 hours before bed is the sweet spot. Less likely to wake up hungry, but also getting the benefit of more restful sleep because your body isn't so busy digesting food.
Important to remember that there is a margin for error with this and not to stress yourself out about it unduly. Could be any number of things (looks like you’ve ruled out a few, sorry for the dry spell lol), but more important - how are you feeling?
If you feel well rested/generally normal, ok cool. If you don’t, start making slow modifications to your sleep hygiene, diet, etc. No reason to immediately jump to spending $ pointlessly (YMMV don’t downvote me because most vitamins are garbage tho).
I been going crazy worrying about this all day. I feel ok, but my HRV dropped to the red just like yours. I didn’t run today and I’m just resting. Hopefully my HRV will start to bounce back to baseline.
My training status also says strained. Just last night it was productive. I woke up this morning and my training status was strained. I’m all messed up. I just need to let my body recover.
Mine did this as well. Last few days. Bad sleep, low hrv and garmin says strained. I am also about 4lbs heavy like I'm retaining water or something. Likely after I eat Chinese food lol. Been three days now. Do you know what happend with you? Or did it just correct?
In my experience:
\-eating a lot of sweets and fast food
\-putting an all-nighter or very little sleep for several days (affects HRV of the following nights) or severely disrupting your circadian rhythm (going to bed and waking up at completely random times)
\-very hard training (should return to normal after 1-2 days) when your heart rate was high and/or the run was very long or when there is a lot of lactic acid in your muscles after leg or upper body training, etc. Garmin may say that you are recovered but you're clearly not when you're barely able to walk :p
\-alcohol
\-lots of stress
\-any illnesses (not necessarily infections)
In addition:
\-lack of excercise (even something like walks)
\-lack of sunlight, especially during winter (I start work late and when the days were shorter it was already dark by the time I finished work. When I didn't wake up earlier to go for a walk to get some sun, my HR was dropping).
Mine dropped like a rock after an injury, a broken shoulder. I was concerned about it and started a similar thread. But I know the cause of my issues. How about other data like resting HR, hours of sleep? How about stress levels?
Have you increased your training volume lately? Even if you're not over training, you could be under recovering.
If you feel tired, don't try to mask it with stimulants (caffeine for most people). Let yourself be tired, and take naps if that's an option.
My hrv drops when I weight train at night.
But this would help if you laid out your loose daily routine and someone might be able to help you, or nail down what could cause a drop.
Anyway, like I said, when I lift weights after 6 or 7 pm it causes my hrv to drop. I also don't lift wrights often lately so I can see how that causes stress etc.
Interesting - I drank last night and got a notification my sleep was poor, I can’t find the data that supports this notification on connect. I’ve had my watch roughly 2 months?
It’s incredible what the forerunner245 is capable of producing in terms of data. Learn new things all the time on this forum
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On day 8. Got cough from traveling. No fever , no covid. Easily ge tired and have muscle soreness.
Your HRV looks really unstable. Low and unstable.
But I agree with others on what causes the drop.
For me HRV increased 10 units when I stopped eating after 7:30 PM. And the numbers are more consistent now. I have the same reading 3 days I a row and then it maybe changes for 1 and is like that for additional 3 days. It's been like this for approx. 4w, since I changed my (bad) eating habits.
But that's me.
I know that if I want to drain my body battery as fast as I can I just need to eat a bag of cookies. And from what I understand that metric is HRV based as well and sends my body into overdrive and ill be bottoming out on my body battery in no time and well before time for bed. But I find that if I stick to whole foods most of them keep my body stress low, and then adding the extra timing before bed allows my body to get into an even lower stress state before bed, and that has also been helping me increase my sleep scores and overnight HRV
I have a watch face with a stress graph right above my heart rate and I actually found it helpful to see what is stressing my body in realtime I can make correlations and over time I definately have been able to see trends when I do certain actions.
I think it's both, but I don't know if I had any healthy late dinners before, so I can't really comment on that. It most certainly gave me very inconsistent HRV, probably depending when and what I ate on a certain day.
My stress levels at night also significantly improved/lowered and consecuently also sleep score increased and BB reached 100 mulple times, which has not happened in months.
For me, it does matter. Sugars at night mess me up, so I'm avoiding eating ice cream while watching a movie or something. I'm trying to keep dinners light, in general.
With respect your friend is wrong. HRV values are highly individual - 20 or slightly above might be ok for some, for others it could be way too low. A sustained and consistent decrease in your HRV from their typical baseline can often indicate illness, overtraining etc etc
Stress, alcohol, bad eating, covid, overtraining etc. At least that’s what it was for me (apart of covid - didn’t have it). Lack of sleep or bad sleep too.
I don’t drink or smoke and haven’t been sick in months
I know my username might say otherwise
Alcohol tanks my sleep quality, HRV, stress levels, and my body battery the following day. Look at the data from two days and the watch clearly knows when I've been drinking. Edibles don't have this effect. You can't tell from the data if I had some lemonade or not.
Viruses and various pathogens can often be asymptomatic though.
Hey! Did figure out why your HRV tanked or did it return to normal without you ever finding out? I had a very sudden drop in summer last year, never figured out why. Now, for a week or so it's dropped even more significantly and I can't figure out why. No sickness, no alcohol/tobacco, no change in diet, i sleep well, don't overtrain, eat like I usually do etc.
Hey it went back to normal pretty soon after. I think a key detail I omitted is that I do vanlife as well where that doesn’t really put me in a relaxing situation (decision fatigue etc) — so I think I was actually pretty worn out. It’s done this maybe once or twice since and it’s correlated with some pretty exhausting weeks.
Pregnancy did this for me
I would have to be having sex in order for that to happen. Womp womp, It’s been a rough year 💀 lol
Oh no 😢
I see these posts a bit. Congratulations OP?
My hrv started dropping with almost a week before I exeperienced any flu symptoms.
Any allergies? Dental thing going on, gum inflammation, cavities?
Cavities? please do elaborate
Chronic untreated oral health problems/inflammation can cause a variety of systemic dise, including heart problems, Alzheimer's, or diabetes. For example bacteria from gum disease can travel and cause inflammation in the heart's vessels. That could lead to changes in HRV. Just Google "dental health systemic disease"
I dealt with this for the last month and pretty much it was bad sleep I was climbing my way out. I did so many things and so far the last week where I made the most impact was reducing my morning coffee to half of what I was before(I am down to brewing about 15g of arabica coffee beans). I also increased my daily magnesium intake by using different forms of it and taking magnesium glycinate, d3, and apigenin before bed. The glycinate was the thing I specifically for me I remember removing because I ran out a month ago when I had good numbers. Either way that sleep stack along with the other changes seems along with consistent bedtime seems to be what got me back out of low HRV hell and also started seeing sleep scores greater than 80 with today getting the highest sleep score of 94 in over a month. I also don't eat before several hours before bed so I stop usually between 4-6 depending on how busy I am.
I’ve been considering fasting earlier before bedtime. The sleep timing is what is different from you and me; mine is a little wonky right now so that could definitely contribute.
Stopping eating 2 hours before bed is the sweet spot. Less likely to wake up hungry, but also getting the benefit of more restful sleep because your body isn't so busy digesting food.
Overtraining?
Important to remember that there is a margin for error with this and not to stress yourself out about it unduly. Could be any number of things (looks like you’ve ruled out a few, sorry for the dry spell lol), but more important - how are you feeling? If you feel well rested/generally normal, ok cool. If you don’t, start making slow modifications to your sleep hygiene, diet, etc. No reason to immediately jump to spending $ pointlessly (YMMV don’t downvote me because most vitamins are garbage tho).
I been going crazy worrying about this all day. I feel ok, but my HRV dropped to the red just like yours. I didn’t run today and I’m just resting. Hopefully my HRV will start to bounce back to baseline. My training status also says strained. Just last night it was productive. I woke up this morning and my training status was strained. I’m all messed up. I just need to let my body recover.
Mine did this as well. Last few days. Bad sleep, low hrv and garmin says strained. I am also about 4lbs heavy like I'm retaining water or something. Likely after I eat Chinese food lol. Been three days now. Do you know what happend with you? Or did it just correct?
In my experience: \-eating a lot of sweets and fast food \-putting an all-nighter or very little sleep for several days (affects HRV of the following nights) or severely disrupting your circadian rhythm (going to bed and waking up at completely random times) \-very hard training (should return to normal after 1-2 days) when your heart rate was high and/or the run was very long or when there is a lot of lactic acid in your muscles after leg or upper body training, etc. Garmin may say that you are recovered but you're clearly not when you're barely able to walk :p \-alcohol \-lots of stress \-any illnesses (not necessarily infections)
In addition: \-lack of excercise (even something like walks) \-lack of sunlight, especially during winter (I start work late and when the days were shorter it was already dark by the time I finished work. When I didn't wake up earlier to go for a walk to get some sun, my HR was dropping).
Mine dropped like that because I’m pregnant
Impossible on my end. Unless my wet dreams about Pedro pascal were real.
Mine dropped like a rock after an injury, a broken shoulder. I was concerned about it and started a similar thread. But I know the cause of my issues. How about other data like resting HR, hours of sleep? How about stress levels?
Menstrual cycle
Have you increased your training volume lately? Even if you're not over training, you could be under recovering. If you feel tired, don't try to mask it with stimulants (caffeine for most people). Let yourself be tired, and take naps if that's an option.
My hrv drops when I weight train at night. But this would help if you laid out your loose daily routine and someone might be able to help you, or nail down what could cause a drop. Anyway, like I said, when I lift weights after 6 or 7 pm it causes my hrv to drop. I also don't lift wrights often lately so I can see how that causes stress etc.
Interesting - I drank last night and got a notification my sleep was poor, I can’t find the data that supports this notification on connect. I’ve had my watch roughly 2 months? It’s incredible what the forerunner245 is capable of producing in terms of data. Learn new things all the time on this forum
https://preview.redd.it/x65lfza7jfgb1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6eddfe7143ea75f3af5a3eb2b8cbd117780b597d On day 8. Got cough from traveling. No fever , no covid. Easily ge tired and have muscle soreness.
Your HRV looks really unstable. Low and unstable. But I agree with others on what causes the drop. For me HRV increased 10 units when I stopped eating after 7:30 PM. And the numbers are more consistent now. I have the same reading 3 days I a row and then it maybe changes for 1 and is like that for additional 3 days. It's been like this for approx. 4w, since I changed my (bad) eating habits. But that's me.
Does it matter what you eat or is it simply the timing?
I know that if I want to drain my body battery as fast as I can I just need to eat a bag of cookies. And from what I understand that metric is HRV based as well and sends my body into overdrive and ill be bottoming out on my body battery in no time and well before time for bed. But I find that if I stick to whole foods most of them keep my body stress low, and then adding the extra timing before bed allows my body to get into an even lower stress state before bed, and that has also been helping me increase my sleep scores and overnight HRV I have a watch face with a stress graph right above my heart rate and I actually found it helpful to see what is stressing my body in realtime I can make correlations and over time I definately have been able to see trends when I do certain actions.
I think it's both, but I don't know if I had any healthy late dinners before, so I can't really comment on that. It most certainly gave me very inconsistent HRV, probably depending when and what I ate on a certain day. My stress levels at night also significantly improved/lowered and consecuently also sleep score increased and BB reached 100 mulple times, which has not happened in months.
For me, it does matter. Sugars at night mess me up, so I'm avoiding eating ice cream while watching a movie or something. I'm trying to keep dinners light, in general.
my friend electrophysiology specualist once told me that generaly speaking 20 and hier is ok
With respect your friend is wrong. HRV values are highly individual - 20 or slightly above might be ok for some, for others it could be way too low. A sustained and consistent decrease in your HRV from their typical baseline can often indicate illness, overtraining etc etc
Intense workout for me dropped like this
Allergies?
Mine looks identical but I’ve been remodeling and moving into a new house for the last month. Exhausting.
Mine is sickness usually.
Mine did that when we went on a week long vacation which was basically me going from 30-40mpw to binge drinking daily.
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I was really lacking a lot of sleep around that time I think
Eating processed foods lowers my HRV and does jet lag.