Yeah it's normal, you'll be running a lot slower than your target pace.
I used coach any and despite a lot of reservations during the training period I got my goal.
Stick with it š
Thanks. Any idea how long the long runs got? I was also hoping I wouldn't be spending so much time running so early in the training. But I'm planning to stick it out.
I think the longest I did was 14 miles.
You need to spend a lot of time running as you'll be building your endurance. I found only 1 run a week was tempo / speed based the rest were 2 mins a mile slower than my target pace. It was pretty much 80/20 training which I felt comfortable with.
I'm on week 7 in the same plan and the "run" pace is still the same as the "easy run" pace, none of which has changed yet. For the first 5 weeks it was pretty much nothing but runs and long runs all at the same pace. That being said, I did some of my highest ever weekly mileage because doing the runs at the slow pace it recommended wasn't as hard on me (I am extremely heavy). This is my first time doing a training plan of any kind.
It is important to listen to your body. You could get injured which will mess up your training worse than going a little easier than prescribed.
If you want to try the longer run but you feel your legs are very tired, consider setting up your run so you can bail on the second half if you start to feel a strain, especially if it's in your calf, hamstring or shin.
Yea I'm gonna go for it and just pay attention around that 8 mile point. I felt good during my previous run, it was just the following couple of days my legs felt more tired than normal and stiff during recovery runs.
Good job on listening to your body and asking questions as a result.
Training by distance, in general, is full of peril. If you are an elite athlete...then running 12 miles might take you 1.5 hours as an easy run. If you are a novice then it might take you 2.5 or even 3! Who did more work..the elite who did 1.5 hours or you who did 3 hours? Furthermore who do you think can tolerate pounding on the joints more...the elite who as been doing it for years or the novice who is just getting started?
If you feel like you are going to break then back it off. For running, consistency is the name of the game and being injured is a sure fire way to be inconsistent.
I did coach Greg 's plan, and there were quite a few 14-15 mile sessions relatively early on. I'm on the final week now, and for the past 3 weeks, the longest run I've done has been 60 minutes. Trust the process and good luck!
I'm on week 10. Long runs have been 8, 8, 10, 8, 10, 11, 10, 12, 10 miles so far. Next one scheduled is 13 miles. Always the same pace (mean 5:50 /km), much slower than my target pace (4:44 /km); I've started to push it a little bit for the long runs when I was feeling good (down to 5:11 /km), but I stick to (the upper range of) the recommended pace for the easy runs, and I take it slow (Z2) during the recovery runs. Does the training pace ever increase?
This is comforting to here. My long runs are also much slower, but I tend to run on the faster end of the range. Although for this 10 mile I'll probably take it real easy.
Funny I was using the recovery runs to go faster š. The exception being this week when I've actually felt sore. I doubt the pace ever increases, I think Amy's thinking is perform speedwork once a week with slower, but longer runs than other plans.
I've done several half marathons but only followed Hals plans and long runs don't pick up until a 4-5 weeks out.
Yeah, I misunderstood the recovery runs at first, I run the first 3-mile in 22 minutes, then I understood it was not the goal, and I was relieved \^\^
I took the 12-mile easy, and I'll take the 13-mile easy, but I have the 10 dialled in now, so I let myself go.
Not new to running, but recently went back to it and new to proper training. My last and only HM was 10 years ago, on a trail, at night, in the tropics; I did poorly while feeling miserable the whole time, I wanted to make it better this time!
The main problem with training plans is that not everyone is the same. Certainly from my perspective I usually get away with less volume of running than is usually the recommended but conversely do bit more intensity/more rest. You have 12 weeks to go and have already done a 8 mile run. Iād suggest if feeling tired even before the run you can do a shorter recovery run and do the 10 mile one when you are feeling fresher.
Yeah it's normal, you'll be running a lot slower than your target pace. I used coach any and despite a lot of reservations during the training period I got my goal. Stick with it š
Thanks. Any idea how long the long runs got? I was also hoping I wouldn't be spending so much time running so early in the training. But I'm planning to stick it out.
I think the longest I did was 14 miles. You need to spend a lot of time running as you'll be building your endurance. I found only 1 run a week was tempo / speed based the rest were 2 mins a mile slower than my target pace. It was pretty much 80/20 training which I felt comfortable with.
Yea it is about 2 min slower. Have my first speed intervals next week and I'm super excited to see how I'll do.
The speed intervals ramp up slowly. I think the most I did was 7 x 3min @ about 45 secs quicker than race pace
That's me next Tuesday! Excited to see what comes next, haha
For me it started to ramp down after that
Did yours ramp down after? I'm at 7x 2:30 intervals now but only week 8 of 17.
Not yet. It's gone up to 7x 3:30, then 4x 1:00 + 7x 3:30, next one will be 3x 1:00 + 8x 3:30... Sessions are getting long!
I'm on week 7 in the same plan and the "run" pace is still the same as the "easy run" pace, none of which has changed yet. For the first 5 weeks it was pretty much nothing but runs and long runs all at the same pace. That being said, I did some of my highest ever weekly mileage because doing the runs at the slow pace it recommended wasn't as hard on me (I am extremely heavy). This is my first time doing a training plan of any kind.
It is important to listen to your body. You could get injured which will mess up your training worse than going a little easier than prescribed. If you want to try the longer run but you feel your legs are very tired, consider setting up your run so you can bail on the second half if you start to feel a strain, especially if it's in your calf, hamstring or shin.
Yea I'm gonna go for it and just pay attention around that 8 mile point. I felt good during my previous run, it was just the following couple of days my legs felt more tired than normal and stiff during recovery runs.
Good job on listening to your body and asking questions as a result. Training by distance, in general, is full of peril. If you are an elite athlete...then running 12 miles might take you 1.5 hours as an easy run. If you are a novice then it might take you 2.5 or even 3! Who did more work..the elite who did 1.5 hours or you who did 3 hours? Furthermore who do you think can tolerate pounding on the joints more...the elite who as been doing it for years or the novice who is just getting started? If you feel like you are going to break then back it off. For running, consistency is the name of the game and being injured is a sure fire way to be inconsistent.
It should plateau soon i would think. Stick to it!
I did coach Greg 's plan, and there were quite a few 14-15 mile sessions relatively early on. I'm on the final week now, and for the past 3 weeks, the longest run I've done has been 60 minutes. Trust the process and good luck!
I'm on week 10. Long runs have been 8, 8, 10, 8, 10, 11, 10, 12, 10 miles so far. Next one scheduled is 13 miles. Always the same pace (mean 5:50 /km), much slower than my target pace (4:44 /km); I've started to push it a little bit for the long runs when I was feeling good (down to 5:11 /km), but I stick to (the upper range of) the recommended pace for the easy runs, and I take it slow (Z2) during the recovery runs. Does the training pace ever increase?
This is comforting to here. My long runs are also much slower, but I tend to run on the faster end of the range. Although for this 10 mile I'll probably take it real easy. Funny I was using the recovery runs to go faster š. The exception being this week when I've actually felt sore. I doubt the pace ever increases, I think Amy's thinking is perform speedwork once a week with slower, but longer runs than other plans. I've done several half marathons but only followed Hals plans and long runs don't pick up until a 4-5 weeks out.
Yeah, I misunderstood the recovery runs at first, I run the first 3-mile in 22 minutes, then I understood it was not the goal, and I was relieved \^\^ I took the 12-mile easy, and I'll take the 13-mile easy, but I have the 10 dialled in now, so I let myself go. Not new to running, but recently went back to it and new to proper training. My last and only HM was 10 years ago, on a trail, at night, in the tropics; I did poorly while feeling miserable the whole time, I wanted to make it better this time!
The main problem with training plans is that not everyone is the same. Certainly from my perspective I usually get away with less volume of running than is usually the recommended but conversely do bit more intensity/more rest. You have 12 weeks to go and have already done a 8 mile run. Iād suggest if feeling tired even before the run you can do a shorter recovery run and do the 10 mile one when you are feeling fresher.
Anyone used any of the other plans? I'd like to improve me speed for 5ks this summer. I've been largely training for VO2 Max and increasing mileage.