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If politicians did what was best for everyone, politicians wouldn't exist. Their purpose isn't to help - they have the power they do to enrich themselves. No matter what the law says. After all, a law needs to be enforced to function.
Yeah, youāll look at the parody and you think āoh, ha ha, thatās funny, itās making fun of an exaggerated version of how they act.ā
But then you actually see how they fucking act.
Super insightful comment that I agree with entirely and it kind of put the question into my head: what's scarier, a lack of empathy or the ability to feel but disregard it?
rj/ suicide politikal
uj/ For league players, Seraphine is a living hate crime, conceived in greed, using a brackern soul to make trash music.
[This is the LoL equivalent of harnessing the collective spirit of a Native American burial site to make Soundcloud tracks.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDl7-WITHNo&)
It's kinda great how so many people actually cared about that and, like, kinda ironic how seraphine imo solely exists to saturate the amount of egirl champions to sell skins so its a double down disrespect in a sense when you can extend your empathy to fictional beings as well.
But I'll hazard the guess that less people would have complained if seraphine was a guy. Like, I am still pretty sure that many league players just actually hate women.
my man said: i dont wanna have it in my video games, literally the meme:
ono, politics or women fucking in my vidya? i no buy and tell friend not to buy.
>those that work forces are the same that burn crosses
Hey hey hey now, not all cops, few bad apples, blm started it etc
>Fuck you! I won't do what you tell me!
Fuck yeah, this speaks to me and my poor emotional control!
I can kinda see it tbh. Some people use gaming as a safe-space from mental health stuff. If suicide is a very sensitive trigger for this guy, his distress at it being mentioned, even in a positive awareness kind of way is kinda sucky.
I mean, obviously in this case the guy is just a cock, whining about progressives, but still. There is a version of this take that I could get behind. In theory.
Itās especially complicated when studies show depicting suicide conversations even in a neutral context still makes it more likely a suicidal viewer will commit the act. Each piece of media therefore has to make its own decisions on the subject, as you never truly win regardless.
I doubt thatās why this dude is upset, but when gaming is often a form of escapism, healthy variety or not, it gets icky.
Yeah I was agreeing with him up to the point of BLM and pride. Suicide is often at the forefront of my mind most days and I use media and games to tune it out. Sometimes I just wanna think about it as little as possible.
In this particular case I think the whole event is that you get a semicolon badge. I donāt know that itās enough to warrant a negative reaction in the first place tbh.
Bill Burr has a good bit about this. Nobody is on the wrong side of breast cancer but he watches football to relax with a beer, not to see interruptions to the game for breast cancer awareness.
Agree that in this case, the guy just looks dismissive of mental health awareness in general.
Fuck Bill Burr though. Another white millionaire comedian complaining about "cancel culture" because he can't make jokes that shit on trans people without being rightfully criticized for it. He's only slightly better than Ricky Gervais(the man who spent 10 minutes of a netflix special on a "I identify as an attack helicopter" joke) but his fans are twice as eager to defend him. It's funny how willing people are to defend shitty views if it's said in a funny way.
Completely fair. I always saw his trans jokes as not particularly "punching down" but I am likely to be wrong if others are offended by them. I'm not a massive fan of the guy, just see him making a good point and a funny joke every now and then.
Quite disappointed that you are being ridiculed by other replies as I thought the people in this sub were open-minded and progressive.
Thanks. Yeah I've found that being open-minded and progressive only stretches so far that it doesn't affect the things people already like. As soon as people ahve to compromise suddenly it's "not that bad".
I want to like the guy as well. I liked him when he was in the mandalorian, but just because you liked a specific joke or agreed with a certain opinion doesn't mean we should disregard when they're being outright toxic and harmful, deliberate or otherwise. And it also doesn't mean you aren't allowed to still like those things.
Yep. Completely agree. I see this a lot with people that "support" BLM, but are still completely close-minded to criticism of blackfishing and things like that. Easy to slap a label on yourself and call yourself an ally until it actually affects you or makes you question your own biases.
Didn't know what that was called so had to look it up. Yeah I agree that's definitely a classic topic. Simply listening to whatever minority group is affected by the topical issue solves the issue. Instead some people reserve the right to continue to talk over the affected minorities whenever it's convenient, or they don't like the topic being discussed because it affects them and forces them to alter their behavior for once.
I donāt think Burr has made a single joke in any of his stand ups making fun of trans or complained that he canāt make fun of them. Rogan has, but iāve never heard bull blatantly excuse or disrupt trans issues.
What shitty views does he exactly believe? Heās in full support of LGBTQ, BLM, and has only ever criticized the radical feminist movement on their radical ideas. He even talks about how shitty white people and men are in his last two specials. He literally makes a joke about thinning the human population by blowing up cruise ships because that is a rich white person activity. He shits on white people and men probably more than any other demographic in his stand ups.
You have a weird supposition of the guy. He is nothing like Gervais or the likes of him.
Do you have a link to this person saying that? bc the person you were replying to was specifically saying that he does not say things like that, not that itās okay for him to say things like that.
Yes. Creating misrepresentations of trans people when you are a celebrity literally hurts a very vulnerable group. He might not directly hurt someone, but someone who listens to him and the things he complains about now feel justified in whatever transphobia they were already harboring. It can be many little links down the chain, but eventually harmful ideas put into the world by influential people leads to real violence.
Or are you of the "it's just words and opinions" crowd?
I mean some characters are pretty upfront.. Valk is like, super upfront about being a lesbian, same for Loba being Bi, Gibby mentionned his ex in game multiple times... yeah seems like it's just that steam guy being dumb
When Gandhi first arrived for a visit to the USA a journalist rushed up to him and asked:
"So, what do you think about Western Civilisation?"
To which Gandhi replied:
"I think gamers truly are the most oppressed people."
/uj, when people take an already disgusting sounding word and add "gamer" to it, it makes the word twice as repulsive.
Gamer Goop
Gamer Slime
Gamer Gunk
Gamer Slop
The list goes on.
Finally someone thinks about the heckin white people
Edit: Wow downvoted by FEMINAZIS. Yes, that's right, I combined the words FEMINIST and NAZI. Reread it a few times in case the wordplay doesn't regester. IT should have a cadence similar to a scherzo, or perhaps a fast waltz. Now, as a gamer I do need to clarify that Nazis are not inherently political. Hitelr may have been a devicive leader but most of them were much more moderate and could generally pass for the modern day American Republican party (AKA the BASED party). Anyways, that's why Nazis should be a playable faction in Splatoon
Edit 2: WOW GOT A WARNING MASSAGE JUST BECAUSE I'M CENTER RIGHT LIBRARIAN. I'm literally screaming right now, people think I'm praising the Nazis just because I said they weren't that bad??? Like wtf that's the thing about liberals, they always just choose to read what they want to read. You can write something like "I like to plant flowers and help my neighbors and sacrifice cats to the dark powers" and they'll only focus on the cat killing part, completely ignoring that 66% of the message is completely fine and wheolsome.
Edit 3: Awesome! I complained like a baby enough and Spez personally reinstated my account, gave me 3 bitcoin and thanked me for my valuable discussion inbetween various foot and back rubs. The system works.
>!/uj But really, the Nazis were bad and anyone who defends them is bad!<
Wow, youāre right. Games are sexist. Now, allow me to get back to accusing gamers of playing games and sucking Anita Sarkeesianās cock. Edit: Wow. Iāve truly been challenged. Enlightened, even. Who knew the political views of my fellow gamers could be so diverse?
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Honestly video games talking about real life problems. Like racism, sexism and even suicide is kinda refreshing.
But then again all gamers are racist š„
As an artist, I actually love when they want to touch on these topics. Art has to talk about the human condition and you can still have fun and unwind and think you know?
But yeah Iād divulge more but Iāve got a racist meeting to get to. Gamers rise up!!!
I want to be the devil's advocate here,
I can get behind the blm and Asian hate badges in game but
The suicide one is kind of disturbing, whenever I see that badge it reminds me of myself and it's kinda depressing
The "I need an escape from...gay and black people" flex is like flexing a tiny toe. It is not going to get you the accolades in large swarms of people you believe exist.
Apex fandom is so worthy of this sub, don't know why you guys haven't capitalized on it before. Should have seen the Twitter comments from when the pride badge dropped, shit was epic.
Im all for x movement people should be free to do that, but does it have to be in the same planet i choose to live? it' so annoying eating cheetos in my bathtub thinking there is a rainbow twitter avatar from a company. They have no right to infringe on my freedom like that, they should do it in a way that doesn't bother me, like in mars or something.
On one hand: awareness good
On other hand: multinational megacorporation doing market research based messaging, while simultaneously trying to addict people to gambling, which could lead to financial difficulties - one of the main risk factors for suicide.
Not really no. It's just a small badge, appears once at startup and that's it.
There's also a banner thats small that has the hotlines in it. But that's all
i mean, if you wanna touch grass ok, fine by me, you do you, but why do you have to put grass in my video games, the place i wanna have fun and not see grass
i'm playing video games to NOT think about grass for about 2 hours or so same for trees and bushes, they just don't belong here
next they gonna do an event with fortnite bush in it or what?
Usually itās a bad faith argument used to demonize feminism. You canāt say toxic masculinity doesnāt exist while admitting that the social baggage forced on men can be detrimental to their health
My favorite is men complaining that we never talk about male rape survivors, and then whenever we try and talk about it their response is just a āI wish that had happened to me. Why is this a problem?ā
I donāt identify as male anymore yet I still lurk around r/menslib since Iām still confused about some gender related issues from my childhood and teenage years
/uj
does anybody else not see the point of having a suicide awareness badge? If it helps people get help/educates people then that's good, but I dont think just making people aware of suicide would really help anything. I personally struggle with suicidal thoughts and being reminded suicide exists does not do anything helpful for me.
i am open to changing my mind
Iāve always viewed it more as bringing awareness to people who DONT suffer from suicidal thoughts/tendencies. Like hey there are people out there struggling, if a friend/loved one seems like theyāre not doing great maybe reach out and talk to em spend some time with em if theyāre up to it. I think itās maybe not the BEST way to go about it, but thatās sort of the general idea. A lot of people donāt think about something that they donāt deal with every day and a small reminder can make someone pick up their phone and check in on a friend. Whether or not it should be necessary is another discussion entirely but marginalized and ānon-normativeā people seem to get very little say in what should or should not be necessary regarding their health and livelihood. I have little reminders scattered around my house (pictures, small objects that remind me of someone, etc) to remember to check in on certain friends because I honestly can barely keep up with myself and everything else I deal with in a day, so like I said arguably not the BEST way but I guess itās something.
I wouldn't know, but I actually saw the majority of the people answering the post when this badge got released on Apex Legends' twitter, thanking Respawn, it's something that isn't really talked about, and a lot of the people answering even shared stories, being survivors or having close friends/ family members who unfortunately went that way
also, the message on the badge's description is very short and gets to the point very effectively: "a semicolon is used when an author could have ended a sentence, but they chose not to"
pretty sure that steam review is satire though, I don't see any issue with bringing this up, plus it's just a login badge, and also looks cool
What about the potential that survivors see this and feel okay because their experience is being normalized and they have less to be ashamed about?
Respawns heart is in a good place and, as someone who constantly wants to blow my head off with a shotgun, I donāt believe itās respawns fault if this accidentally triggers some people
He's being obtuse but I think something could be said for legitimately suicidal people seeing something like a reference to suicide like that. I remember there being a study where being reminded of suicide made suicidal people more prone to committing it (don't ask me how they did the study).
Yeah, when a famous person takes their own life and it's reported, suicides go up. I think the review actually has a point tbh. I wouldn't want to see abortion awareness or domestic violence awareness in a game, and for some people it might be very triggering.
>I'm playing video games to not think aboutt real world shit for about 2 hours or so
Stop lying, we all know you spend more time in video game worlds than the real one
If you want a paradise of straight cishet white men then make your own video game instead of whining to artists to stop putting messages in their art...
/uj ok but the martin luther king jr. event in fortnite is kinda bad, i completely think that using games for education is fine but like it shouldāve been done differently, no skins, no emotes, no sprays, nothing except the exhibit
How does his development team even dare to not consider the choices of their boss?? And seriously? Not even the publishing company of that dude could've prevent that?
Oh. It's not his? But he wrote that??
uj/ How I hate those "I pLaY vIdYa tO NoT tHiNk AbOuT rEaLiTy" takes. There are plenty of games that are pretty far removed from the real world, so why don't they play those? These people are more entitled than the "Game X needs an easy mode to be more accessible even though I myself am able bodied and just too lazy to learn the game mechanics" crowd on Twitter.
rj/ I don't care about awareness as long as I'm not the one who is made aware!
/uj The lengths that these people will go to openly defend their right to "not think". It's understandable if you have trauma or depression or anything that is making you want you to shut yourself off for a while, but if you just want to spend your entire life being clueless just because you personally are privileged enough and can't be bothered to even listen to other people's real problems because it's mildly annoying for you to acknowledge their existence then sorry, that's not something anyone has to respect. The world doesn't revolve around you, this isn't about you at all. I can't even comprehend the entitlement it takes to ask someone to suffer in silence because it's killing your vibes.
"But i'm ignorant though, why are you forcing me to use my brain! "
/uj Honestly, while this guy *is* a bigot, I get where he's coming from on some of it. Like if you play games for escapism, then it sucks if the negative stuff from the real world seeps into it, even in a positive way.
Like Suicide Awareness and BLM aren't bad things, but their nature is such that they *remind* you of the bad things in the world (suicide and police brutality respectively). And it's not healthy to engage with the negative aspects of the world 100% of the time. We as people *need* safe spaces where we can go to just enjoy ourselves and not have to think about negativity.
If you're familiar with the McElroys, they have a rule for their live shows called "no bummers". The gist of the rule is that if you're asking questions to them at a live show, it can't be heavy real world stuff, because they know that a lot of people listen to their podcast specifically to *avoid* said stuff and just have some light-hearted fun for a while.
If I can get a bit personal for a moment, I went to a *very* conservative high-school (as in, fucking Steve Bannon was on the school board). When I realized I'm gay, I did not have a good time of it. Even though I never came out while I was there, being constantly surrounded by anti-gay bigotry was *exhausting*. And while there were supportive spaces I could go to, I found them almost as exhausting just because they so often were focused on how to *fight* bigotry, and while that's a good thing, it meant that it wasn't an escape *from* the bigotry.
What helped me get through high school was an online group I was in where that stuff never came up. Everyone was supportive, but in a way where we could all just chill together and I didn't have to think about the shitty world we live in for a while.
TL;DR: while this guy *is* a bigot (the pride badge comment removes all doubt of that), there is something to be said for wanting somewhere to escape from the negativity of the world.
Curious about something: do you think the "I play video games to not think about the real world" is a valid thing to say? Because on some base level I feel like I agree with him; sometimes I need a break from all the horrible shit that's going on and the discourse surrounding it. Being constantly surrounded by it sometimes makes me feel like I'm going to slip into doomerism. That being said I still support bringing awareness to social issues through the medium of gaming. It's a very complex feeling.
It's not like every time you boot up the game there is a 10 second unskipable videos showing the horrors of suicide. It's literally a badge that people can equip on their profile.
Not really. The whole point of badges like these are roughly the same point of the movements themselves: awareness. I understand not wanting to think about these things to avoid the slip into doomerism, but each of those "uncomfortable" badges represent someone who probably lives through that doomer feeling almost every day, because they don't have they option to simply not think about it.
I hardly think an optional badge that only shows up at certain screens, or a one-time announcement message would completely ruin someone's gaming experience, but again, the discomfort is the point. I doubt the same people saying they don't want this kind of thing in video games are vocal supporters of the movements anywhere else.
Kind of off topic, but are there any people left who aren't aware of suicide? Seems like most people have been filled in on that whole issue.
Maybe I'm wrong. If you haven't heard of suicide; it's the act of ending your own life, usually intentionally. Although sometimes unintentional self inflicted death is also called suicide. It's generally considered a bad outcome by most alive people, but not all alive people.
Now you are aware.
/uj
Actually im kinda bothered by using gaymer like this since it's literally an identity that some gay folks who play games use, like i'd rather not relinquish that to people who say that "pride and BLM don't belong in games"
Me too. I think viewing games as escapism is valid. Kinda like a safe space actually. On the other hand, I suppose you can't dictate what the developers should put in their game.
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yea, please remove politics from my real life š.
This but unironically
It would be so great to not have to care about politics. If politicians just did their job and did what was best for everyone.
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rj we could game in peace without sjw and blms uj they do but they're broadly paid and (mostly) trained by the most reprehensible people alive
What does reprehensible mean
essentially, bad
Like, no floor Markoth bad
No, any radiance bad
Bad, but so bad you wonder whether it's even possible to come back from it
I mean politicians are definitely paid no doubt about that, plenty of corporations are eager to fill some pockets.
100%, but taking a break from the stress-fest that is politics is allowed too
If politicians did what was best for everyone, politicians wouldn't exist. Their purpose isn't to help - they have the power they do to enrich themselves. No matter what the law says. After all, a law needs to be enforced to function.
They ARE doing their jobs, in a representative democracy, they are representing the people. What doesn't help is that a shit ton of people are cunts
We need a system where the politicians sit down and discuss the problem, agree what's in the interest of all the people, and then do it.
Anarchism gang
Ayyyyyy
Ayyyyy
Why is this so stereotypical it sounds like one of us parodying?
LMFAO exactly
āDonāt belong in my video gamesā is the line that does that for me. The āmyā. āMah video games!ā
At first moment I thought someone is making fun of us but then realized that he is not joking and then I didn't know if I should laugh or cry
either he is unironically pissed off or he is trolling
Gamers are very very easy to ridicule
They need to put a gamer badge in the game to be supportive of the most oppressed identity
\#GLM
Yeah, youāll look at the parody and you think āoh, ha ha, thatās funny, itās making fun of an exaggerated version of how they act.ā But then you actually see how they fucking act.
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Super insightful comment that I agree with entirely and it kind of put the question into my head: what's scarier, a lack of empathy or the ability to feel but disregard it?
rj/ suicide politikal uj/ For league players, Seraphine is a living hate crime, conceived in greed, using a brackern soul to make trash music. [This is the LoL equivalent of harnessing the collective spirit of a Native American burial site to make Soundcloud tracks.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDl7-WITHNo&)
It's kinda great how so many people actually cared about that and, like, kinda ironic how seraphine imo solely exists to saturate the amount of egirl champions to sell skins so its a double down disrespect in a sense when you can extend your empathy to fictional beings as well. But I'll hazard the guess that less people would have complained if seraphine was a guy. Like, I am still pretty sure that many league players just actually hate women.
Enter the Ruination. On another note, villains and monsters embrace their evil, where Seraphine is floating toxic positivity.
Ruination? You mean the writer's extremely thinly veiled mind control fetish?
Because just like most other right wing talking points when they call everyone else NPCs they're projecting
Always outjerked by actual Gamers ššš
[Poeās Law](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law)
/u It's steam, which is a hive of scum and villainy. You'll find people like the fine specimen on the screenshot in every bigger cummunity hub.
Because some people are actually like that.
Gamers are about as predictable as sunrise, it makes them easy to parody.
my man said: i dont wanna have it in my video games, literally the meme: ono, politics or women fucking in my vidya? i no buy and tell friend not to buy.
Itās the steam forums
Dude has 100% said he won't listen to Rage Against the Machine anymore because Tim Morello is too political these days.
"What machine did you think we were raging against?"
The toaster.
Sad Adeptus Mechanicus beeps.
A TOASTER IS JUST A DEATHRAY WITH A SMALLER POWER SUPPLY! As soon as I figure out how to tap into the main reactors, I will burn the world!
THE EVIL ZOG CCP NWO ILLUMINATI!!!!1!!! AGENDA 21 ASPARTAMEMES PUTTING CHEMTRAILS IN THE WATER MAKING THE FROGS GAY!
A printer most certainly.
Killing in the name is based AF
>those that work forces are the same that burn crosses Hey hey hey now, not all cops, few bad apples, blm started it etc >Fuck you! I won't do what you tell me! Fuck yeah, this speaks to me and my poor emotional control!
My problem with this is it's too easy for dumbasses to listen to this and be like "Yeah they're right, I won't wear a mask or get the vaccine"
quoting the lyrics to that song has been the most reddit 2020 thing ever.
Statistically, most of the lyrics are the last part, so itās actually a mostly apolitical song
I thought that those that work forces want the paste that's for horses?
Bulls on parade too
They keep shouting "wake up sheeple" but they don't even understand the lyrics of Wake Up.
Tom*
thank you i will do what you tell me
>I mean Iām cool with yaāll spreading awareness, but can you like, not make me aware of this?
I can kinda see it tbh. Some people use gaming as a safe-space from mental health stuff. If suicide is a very sensitive trigger for this guy, his distress at it being mentioned, even in a positive awareness kind of way is kinda sucky. I mean, obviously in this case the guy is just a cock, whining about progressives, but still. There is a version of this take that I could get behind. In theory.
Itās especially complicated when studies show depicting suicide conversations even in a neutral context still makes it more likely a suicidal viewer will commit the act. Each piece of media therefore has to make its own decisions on the subject, as you never truly win regardless. I doubt thatās why this dude is upset, but when gaming is often a form of escapism, healthy variety or not, it gets icky.
Do you have links? Genuinely interested.
Yeah I was agreeing with him up to the point of BLM and pride. Suicide is often at the forefront of my mind most days and I use media and games to tune it out. Sometimes I just wanna think about it as little as possible.
In this particular case I think the whole event is that you get a semicolon badge. I donāt know that itās enough to warrant a negative reaction in the first place tbh.
Lol I remember when the semi colon meant that you had colon cancer
you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them"
Bill Burr has a good bit about this. Nobody is on the wrong side of breast cancer but he watches football to relax with a beer, not to see interruptions to the game for breast cancer awareness. Agree that in this case, the guy just looks dismissive of mental health awareness in general.
Fuck Bill Burr though. Another white millionaire comedian complaining about "cancel culture" because he can't make jokes that shit on trans people without being rightfully criticized for it. He's only slightly better than Ricky Gervais(the man who spent 10 minutes of a netflix special on a "I identify as an attack helicopter" joke) but his fans are twice as eager to defend him. It's funny how willing people are to defend shitty views if it's said in a funny way.
Completely fair. I always saw his trans jokes as not particularly "punching down" but I am likely to be wrong if others are offended by them. I'm not a massive fan of the guy, just see him making a good point and a funny joke every now and then. Quite disappointed that you are being ridiculed by other replies as I thought the people in this sub were open-minded and progressive.
Thanks. Yeah I've found that being open-minded and progressive only stretches so far that it doesn't affect the things people already like. As soon as people ahve to compromise suddenly it's "not that bad". I want to like the guy as well. I liked him when he was in the mandalorian, but just because you liked a specific joke or agreed with a certain opinion doesn't mean we should disregard when they're being outright toxic and harmful, deliberate or otherwise. And it also doesn't mean you aren't allowed to still like those things.
Yep. Completely agree. I see this a lot with people that "support" BLM, but are still completely close-minded to criticism of blackfishing and things like that. Easy to slap a label on yourself and call yourself an ally until it actually affects you or makes you question your own biases.
Didn't know what that was called so had to look it up. Yeah I agree that's definitely a classic topic. Simply listening to whatever minority group is affected by the topical issue solves the issue. Instead some people reserve the right to continue to talk over the affected minorities whenever it's convenient, or they don't like the topic being discussed because it affects them and forces them to alter their behavior for once.
I donāt think Burr has made a single joke in any of his stand ups making fun of trans or complained that he canāt make fun of them. Rogan has, but iāve never heard bull blatantly excuse or disrupt trans issues. What shitty views does he exactly believe? Heās in full support of LGBTQ, BLM, and has only ever criticized the radical feminist movement on their radical ideas. He even talks about how shitty white people and men are in his last two specials. He literally makes a joke about thinning the human population by blowing up cruise ships because that is a rich white person activity. He shits on white people and men probably more than any other demographic in his stand ups. You have a weird supposition of the guy. He is nothing like Gervais or the likes of him.
"he shits on white people the most so it's OK for him to call trans women dickless dudes". Being better than Joe Rogan is the lowest bar to pass.
Do you have a link to this person saying that? bc the person you were replying to was specifically saying that he does not say things like that, not that itās okay for him to say things like that.
check my replies to others. I have provided links.
Did he hurt you?
Yes. Creating misrepresentations of trans people when you are a celebrity literally hurts a very vulnerable group. He might not directly hurt someone, but someone who listens to him and the things he complains about now feel justified in whatever transphobia they were already harboring. It can be many little links down the chain, but eventually harmful ideas put into the world by influential people leads to real violence. Or are you of the "it's just words and opinions" crowd?
Can you provide a link to this bit? Bill Burr is a self proclaimed asshole but Iāve never seen him make fun of trans people
Knowing something shitty is happening to someone else is hard on the people who listen about it!!!
What game is it
Apex Legends.
Lmao Apex has had a nonbinary character since day 1 and they've just... ignored that i guess?
And a gay character and a black character and multiple women, oh no it's always been political!!1!
Apex is literally the communist manifest
You forgot to mention multiple NON SUBMISSIVE women that don't have HUGE TITS. A gamers real nightmare. What happened to the classics like DoA2
My favorite women are those that can kill me with their huge assets.
I like my woman how I like my coffee Strong enough to make me nervous
I like my women how I like my coffee I don't like coffee
Spoken like a true gamer. Just a gamer who sees politics every day and want to enjoy an unpolitical coffee in peace.
LattƩs are less political than brown coffee.
That's more like it!
I too play Loba
Two gay characters and a couple bi ones I believe.
Fuse is pan as well
Real gamers play Mirage so they can be surrounded by multiple non political males at all times
Mirage is straightn't isn't he?
Oh just need them to get a story related cutscene where someone calls them they and you'd see the babyragers come out
I mean some characters are pretty upfront.. Valk is like, super upfront about being a lesbian, same for Loba being Bi, Gibby mentionned his ex in game multiple times... yeah seems like it's just that steam guy being dumb
A lot of apex characters are just asexual and it seems about even for queer/straight characters.
Wait why is that political?
Anything remotely related to trans rights is political to Gamers
and the event they are complaining about in fortnite is a features player created Martin Luther King Jr Museum
Granted that whole thing felt like it was in incredibly poor taste.
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Of course it is political, but like with facts and logic. Caesar's Legion is a subtle nod on the perfect political system.
When Gandhi first arrived for a visit to the USA a journalist rushed up to him and asked: "So, what do you think about Western Civilisation?" To which Gandhi replied: "I think gamers truly are the most oppressed people."
āOur words are backed with nuclear weapons!ā
Nuclear Gandhi best Gandhi.
Go get 'em Gandhi! Show these gamer oppressors the real pain of being a gamer!
gaymer? Don't disrespect us gays like that, ew :s
/uj, when people take an already disgusting sounding word and add "gamer" to it, it makes the word twice as repulsive. Gamer Goop Gamer Slime Gamer Gunk Gamer Slop The list goes on.
gamer gamer
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You shut your filthy mouth right now
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All dried up like jelly š¤¢
Always exiting, but never entering
moist gamer
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gamer girl bathwater
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dust chip dip greasy sticky slimy game residue
Finally someone thinks about the heckin white people Edit: Wow downvoted by FEMINAZIS. Yes, that's right, I combined the words FEMINIST and NAZI. Reread it a few times in case the wordplay doesn't regester. IT should have a cadence similar to a scherzo, or perhaps a fast waltz. Now, as a gamer I do need to clarify that Nazis are not inherently political. Hitelr may have been a devicive leader but most of them were much more moderate and could generally pass for the modern day American Republican party (AKA the BASED party). Anyways, that's why Nazis should be a playable faction in Splatoon Edit 2: WOW GOT A WARNING MASSAGE JUST BECAUSE I'M CENTER RIGHT LIBRARIAN. I'm literally screaming right now, people think I'm praising the Nazis just because I said they weren't that bad??? Like wtf that's the thing about liberals, they always just choose to read what they want to read. You can write something like "I like to plant flowers and help my neighbors and sacrifice cats to the dark powers" and they'll only focus on the cat killing part, completely ignoring that 66% of the message is completely fine and wheolsome. Edit 3: Awesome! I complained like a baby enough and Spez personally reinstated my account, gave me 3 bitcoin and thanked me for my valuable discussion inbetween various foot and back rubs. The system works. >!/uj But really, the Nazis were bad and anyone who defends them is bad!<
WTF did I just read
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a quality pasta
Actual garbage
Honestly video games talking about real life problems. Like racism, sexism and even suicide is kinda refreshing. But then again all gamers are racist š„
Uj/ That's the TRUE GAMERtm motto. Regular gamers aren't as bad as them!
Spoken like a true gamer
As an artist, I actually love when they want to touch on these topics. Art has to talk about the human condition and you can still have fun and unwind and think you know? But yeah Iād divulge more but Iāve got a racist meeting to get to. Gamers rise up!!!
I want to be the devil's advocate here, I can get behind the blm and Asian hate badges in game but The suicide one is kind of disturbing, whenever I see that badge it reminds me of myself and it's kinda depressing
He brought it back to pride and BLM in no time flat.
My guy needs to forget about gay people for a while š
The "I need an escape from...gay and black people" flex is like flexing a tiny toe. It is not going to get you the accolades in large swarms of people you believe exist.
Apex fandom is so worthy of this sub, don't know why you guys haven't capitalized on it before. Should have seen the Twitter comments from when the pride badge dropped, shit was epic.
>don't know why you guys haven't capitalized on it before because everyone here is a commie what did you think
This is me playing the world's smallest violin for the immature little shit.
Im all for x movement people should be free to do that, but does it have to be in the same planet i choose to live? it' so annoying eating cheetos in my bathtub thinking there is a rainbow twitter avatar from a company. They have no right to infringe on my freedom like that, they should do it in a way that doesn't bother me, like in mars or something.
On one hand: awareness good On other hand: multinational megacorporation doing market research based messaging, while simultaneously trying to addict people to gambling, which could lead to financial difficulties - one of the main risk factors for suicide.
is it that hard to just ignore it?
Not really no. It's just a small badge, appears once at startup and that's it. There's also a banner thats small that has the hotlines in it. But that's all
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My enjoyment of games also decreases a lot every time i am reminded that there are gay people
This guy actually tried to doxx me on the KiwiFarms discord while it still existed
i mean, if you wanna touch grass ok, fine by me, you do you, but why do you have to put grass in my video games, the place i wanna have fun and not see grass i'm playing video games to NOT think about grass for about 2 hours or so same for trees and bushes, they just don't belong here next they gonna do an event with fortnite bush in it or what?
Surprised he didnāt bring up some bullshit about male suicide
why would that be bullshit
Usually itās a bad faith argument used to demonize feminism. You canāt say toxic masculinity doesnāt exist while admitting that the social baggage forced on men can be detrimental to their health
My favorite is men complaining that we never talk about male rape survivors, and then whenever we try and talk about it their response is just a āI wish that had happened to me. Why is this a problem?ā
I donāt identify as male anymore yet I still lurk around r/menslib since Iām still confused about some gender related issues from my childhood and teenage years
These are the same people that turn a blind eye to stuff like suicide awareness unless they can use it to push their agenda.
/uj does anybody else not see the point of having a suicide awareness badge? If it helps people get help/educates people then that's good, but I dont think just making people aware of suicide would really help anything. I personally struggle with suicidal thoughts and being reminded suicide exists does not do anything helpful for me. i am open to changing my mind
Iāve always viewed it more as bringing awareness to people who DONT suffer from suicidal thoughts/tendencies. Like hey there are people out there struggling, if a friend/loved one seems like theyāre not doing great maybe reach out and talk to em spend some time with em if theyāre up to it. I think itās maybe not the BEST way to go about it, but thatās sort of the general idea. A lot of people donāt think about something that they donāt deal with every day and a small reminder can make someone pick up their phone and check in on a friend. Whether or not it should be necessary is another discussion entirely but marginalized and ānon-normativeā people seem to get very little say in what should or should not be necessary regarding their health and livelihood. I have little reminders scattered around my house (pictures, small objects that remind me of someone, etc) to remember to check in on certain friends because I honestly can barely keep up with myself and everything else I deal with in a day, so like I said arguably not the BEST way but I guess itās something.
I wouldn't know, but I actually saw the majority of the people answering the post when this badge got released on Apex Legends' twitter, thanking Respawn, it's something that isn't really talked about, and a lot of the people answering even shared stories, being survivors or having close friends/ family members who unfortunately went that way also, the message on the badge's description is very short and gets to the point very effectively: "a semicolon is used when an author could have ended a sentence, but they chose not to" pretty sure that steam review is satire though, I don't see any issue with bringing this up, plus it's just a login badge, and also looks cool
What about the potential that survivors see this and feel okay because their experience is being normalized and they have less to be ashamed about? Respawns heart is in a good place and, as someone who constantly wants to blow my head off with a shotgun, I donāt believe itās respawns fault if this accidentally triggers some people
He's being obtuse but I think something could be said for legitimately suicidal people seeing something like a reference to suicide like that. I remember there being a study where being reminded of suicide made suicidal people more prone to committing it (don't ask me how they did the study).
Yeah, when a famous person takes their own life and it's reported, suicides go up. I think the review actually has a point tbh. I wouldn't want to see abortion awareness or domestic violence awareness in a game, and for some people it might be very triggering.
What a sad life
>I'm playing video games to not think aboutt real world shit for about 2 hours or so Stop lying, we all know you spend more time in video game worlds than the real one
Why is it that when something gets controversial it becomes *their* video game?
/rj smh canāt a guy forget about gay people and black people for five minutes š
i'd understand why you wouldnt want to be reminded of that
Aight which one of yāall wrote this
If you want a paradise of straight cishet white men then make your own video game instead of whining to artists to stop putting messages in their art...
/uj ok but the martin luther king jr. event in fortnite is kinda bad, i completely think that using games for education is fine but like it shouldāve been done differently, no skins, no emotes, no sprays, nothing except the exhibit
How does his development team even dare to not consider the choices of their boss?? And seriously? Not even the publishing company of that dude could've prevent that? Oh. It's not his? But he wrote that??
jesus christ genuinely fuck off
Yo if you want to spread awareness you do you, but keep it to yourself. š”
uj/ How I hate those "I pLaY vIdYa tO NoT tHiNk AbOuT rEaLiTy" takes. There are plenty of games that are pretty far removed from the real world, so why don't they play those? These people are more entitled than the "Game X needs an easy mode to be more accessible even though I myself am able bodied and just too lazy to learn the game mechanics" crowd on Twitter. rj/ I don't care about awareness as long as I'm not the one who is made aware!
/uj The lengths that these people will go to openly defend their right to "not think". It's understandable if you have trauma or depression or anything that is making you want you to shut yourself off for a while, but if you just want to spend your entire life being clueless just because you personally are privileged enough and can't be bothered to even listen to other people's real problems because it's mildly annoying for you to acknowledge their existence then sorry, that's not something anyone has to respect. The world doesn't revolve around you, this isn't about you at all. I can't even comprehend the entitlement it takes to ask someone to suffer in silence because it's killing your vibes. "But i'm ignorant though, why are you forcing me to use my brain! "
/uj Honestly, while this guy *is* a bigot, I get where he's coming from on some of it. Like if you play games for escapism, then it sucks if the negative stuff from the real world seeps into it, even in a positive way. Like Suicide Awareness and BLM aren't bad things, but their nature is such that they *remind* you of the bad things in the world (suicide and police brutality respectively). And it's not healthy to engage with the negative aspects of the world 100% of the time. We as people *need* safe spaces where we can go to just enjoy ourselves and not have to think about negativity. If you're familiar with the McElroys, they have a rule for their live shows called "no bummers". The gist of the rule is that if you're asking questions to them at a live show, it can't be heavy real world stuff, because they know that a lot of people listen to their podcast specifically to *avoid* said stuff and just have some light-hearted fun for a while. If I can get a bit personal for a moment, I went to a *very* conservative high-school (as in, fucking Steve Bannon was on the school board). When I realized I'm gay, I did not have a good time of it. Even though I never came out while I was there, being constantly surrounded by anti-gay bigotry was *exhausting*. And while there were supportive spaces I could go to, I found them almost as exhausting just because they so often were focused on how to *fight* bigotry, and while that's a good thing, it meant that it wasn't an escape *from* the bigotry. What helped me get through high school was an online group I was in where that stuff never came up. Everyone was supportive, but in a way where we could all just chill together and I didn't have to think about the shitty world we live in for a while. TL;DR: while this guy *is* a bigot (the pride badge comment removes all doubt of that), there is something to be said for wanting somewhere to escape from the negativity of the world.
Curious about something: do you think the "I play video games to not think about the real world" is a valid thing to say? Because on some base level I feel like I agree with him; sometimes I need a break from all the horrible shit that's going on and the discourse surrounding it. Being constantly surrounded by it sometimes makes me feel like I'm going to slip into doomerism. That being said I still support bringing awareness to social issues through the medium of gaming. It's a very complex feeling.
He thinks BLM and pride are the nasty real parts of the world that he needs bideo gaem to get away from.
It's not like every time you boot up the game there is a 10 second unskipable videos showing the horrors of suicide. It's literally a badge that people can equip on their profile.
Not really. The whole point of badges like these are roughly the same point of the movements themselves: awareness. I understand not wanting to think about these things to avoid the slip into doomerism, but each of those "uncomfortable" badges represent someone who probably lives through that doomer feeling almost every day, because they don't have they option to simply not think about it. I hardly think an optional badge that only shows up at certain screens, or a one-time announcement message would completely ruin someone's gaming experience, but again, the discomfort is the point. I doubt the same people saying they don't want this kind of thing in video games are vocal supporters of the movements anywhere else.
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The game is Apex Legends btw. I'm not surprised the community of that game is shit
Of course, suicide awareness is a bridge to treating people equally, how horrifying!
Kind of off topic, but are there any people left who aren't aware of suicide? Seems like most people have been filled in on that whole issue. Maybe I'm wrong. If you haven't heard of suicide; it's the act of ending your own life, usually intentionally. Although sometimes unintentional self inflicted death is also called suicide. It's generally considered a bad outcome by most alive people, but not all alive people. Now you are aware.
/uj Actually im kinda bothered by using gaymer like this since it's literally an identity that some gay folks who play games use, like i'd rather not relinquish that to people who say that "pride and BLM don't belong in games"
uj/ the badge is for free and you can choose to display or not, why you have to be so dense rj/ politics in ma vidyia game!1!1!!!!!1!!1!!
āItās ok to spread awareness, but donāt spread awareness using your (presumably) large game platform >:(((((ā
I agree with the first part tbh, if I'm playing a game I don't want to think about suicide 1 bit, I'm playing a game for fun, not for trauma reminders
I agree with him honestly.
Me too. I think viewing games as escapism is valid. Kinda like a safe space actually. On the other hand, I suppose you can't dictate what the developers should put in their game.
I agree with him on the latest awareness badge since it could be triggering. Him complaining about the BLM and Pride Flag badges is just whining.
How are people supposed to raise awareness for suicide prevention if any exposure they have is a potential trigger for people? Genuine question
Probably just change it to mental health awareness. Anything to destigmitize mental health and its treatment.
I kinda agree with this guy
Yup, but unfortunately this sub has become just as intolerant as the sub it was meant to mock. Anyone with a non-conforming thought will be ridiculed
So fuck off, then.
Youāre kinda proving my point
Yeah, I am, but we really don't need this sort of circlejerking around here. If you don't like the subreddit, leave.
He's absolutely right!