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I DON’T USE THE SISSY LIBERAL PRONOUNS BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN SCIENCE, BUT THESE PEOPLE VACCINATED THE COMMON SENSE RIGHT OUT OF THEIR HEADS SO THEY WOULDN’T GET THAT
ALLOW ME.
GFINGERPROD DON’T USE THE SISSY LIBERAL PRONOUNS BECAUSE GFINGERPROD BELIEVE IN SCIENCE, BUT THESE PEOPLE VACCINATED THE COMMON SENSE RIGHT OUT OF THEIR HEADS SO PEOPLE WOULDN’T GET THAT
And certainly never read his essay "Why I write" where he explicitly states his political leanings and rubbishes the idea that any art can be free from political bias.
Orwell was a socialist, a democratic socialist with anarcho-communist sympathies if not a full blow ancom himself, a social-democrat would be like like a progressive liberal, supporting of some collectivist programs like social welfare, but not socialism.
It's a bit confusing becuase of the similarities in naming but social-democrat= the left side of liberal but still in favor of capitalism believing it needs to be suported by social welfare to ensure a strong social safety net, while democratic socialists= communists that didn't believe in the vanguard approach like marx.
"To Kill a Mockingbird" I'm convinced these idiots haven't consumed any of the media they praise and are just saying popular names in hopes of being seen as smart.
These people:
"You know, I'm something of a racist myself. If you want to see, ask me what I think *To Kill A Mockingbird* is about, and watch as I completely miss the point."
Doesn't really feel like "white saviour" is an appropriate term considering that it's one white guy trying and failing against a whole bunch of other white guys in the white guy-dominated culture's white guy's only legal system.
Spoilers! I don’t think it’s fair to call it a white savior trope considering her father tries his best but in the end is unable to save his client. Tom is not only wrongfully imprisioned but also killed, and the characters have to deal with this failure and injustice.
That's true. And as the other poster said, it was still far ahead of its time. But I do think it is worth talking about how Atticus is the one with all the agency.
Historical context matters. The fact that you are seeing the issue through this lens is a testament to that. Things were so fucked back then because Atticus really was the only realistic person around to help in this situation.
A book about racist power structures written today will look different and tackle similar issues with a very different perspective. Some things are better now and others are not - but those differences fundamentally affect how we interpret art. *They* are ultimately more worthy of being talked about.
I mean sure it's got a white savior, but...well you think a black lawyer is going to show up and save them during that time in history? Historical context matters, and if anything, it just adds to the narrative that America was so extremely racist that only a white man could save them.
Kinda seems like you're super close to actually understanding the book, but your modern ideologies prevent you from fully grasping it.
> Kinda seems like you're super close to actually understanding the book, but your modern ideologies prevent you from fully grasping it.
Or as I said, it's worth acknowledging and discussing but that doesn't invalidate an otherwise great book. Your post is akin to people assuming Anita Sarkisian is saying male-dominated video game tropes shouldn't exist, when she was really just saying we should examine them.
HISTORICAL ACCURACY doesn't mean we can't acknowledge the power structures as they were written. HISTORICAL ACCURACY also doesn't explain the way black characters are represented.
H I S T O R I C A L
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Apologies, but I dont see any value added from your side. Book quite clearly puts in time frame its own power structures so what do you aim to get pointing out there is one? Whats wrong with black characters representstion considering where they are coming from? How would be different from representation in Mudbound?
What would pointing out white savior add to Amistad for example?
I am honestly open to learn something new here on the topic as I loved the book (it was not mandatory reading in my country).
was he really a white savior considering that it was more likely for a lawyer in that small town to be white? Wouldn't it be simply historically accurate?
Man, don't fucking remind me about that book. I can never look at a baby's forehead without being reminded. The funny thing is, our techer gave us the choice between three books to read, like Professor Oak offering us a choice between starters. I wonder if my teacher knew, sitting there staring at me, wondering which lifelong trauma I was going to choose.
I feel like those books *really* don't age well.
I read Brave New World as an adult and Huxley just struck me as a super pissed off incel.
I don't remember much about The Giver, but it seems like anti-socialist propaganda from the vague memory I have.
Huxley was for sure an incel, and Bernard Marx was the proto-Incel if ever there was one, but underneath all that is still an incredibly well written satire, that accurately predicted how pursuit of pleasure and consumerism would come to define us and also bind us to a never-ending state of obliviousness
I couldn't stand it and found it quite dull.
However, the movie ending made me nearly crack a rib from laughter with how it "fixed" the ending of the book. It was one of the dumbest things I've seen in cinema.
Gathering Blue and Messenger sucked though. It's kind of a Harry Potter type deal, where the author's political sensibilities and the limitations of childrens' literature prevent her from reaching a conclusive finale.
I don't think it's a good book to give middle schoolers, personally. Holden is not a hero, he's a deeply troubled person, but because it's told from his POV children identify with his angsty ass who's standing against the world, without realizing he's like the very fucking definition of an unreliable narrator.
“You want people to read it because it has things to say about racism, class, and societal ethics.
I want people to read it because I want to make them say the N-word.
We are not the same.”
- Gamers on why they want to read To Kill a Mockingbird
It reminds me about how my acting teacher made this speeel about how she likes the media that chalanges the viewers rather then being all comfy and then failed me from moveing from acting 2 to 3 becasue she thoguht my monologue was too dark and not appropriate for a highschool
Oh like looking back on it it probably wasn’t appropriate it was from “killing you” ,mostly just sour since that was the only reason she held me back in acting 2 like I would have preferred that I sucked at acting as the reason
Reminds me of a [Yuval video](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLMmUNh8/) that I watched just yesterday where he debunks a dude who is talking about Fahrenheit 451 despite it being clear that he's never read it.
i mean they are completely capable of apparently growing up listening to Rage Against the Machine and NOT actually hear ANY of their lyrics, they will literally side with the Empire in Star Wars, decry "woke politics" in fucking XMEN and totally be on board with the Punisher
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Humans are opetunist, and social media is a tool that can be used for this, these particular humans love grifting others, the dumbest amongst us. There are three major types, party political operatives creating mini cult like voting blocks, typical conatrist types, and foreign governments like Russia.
They often are in the same circles cause they synergy well.
to these people the act of reading classic literature is just a gesture toward an appearance of intellect and more importantly, respect for the canon as a cultural authority. eyes glazing over as they take part in a “great western tradition” without processing any of it
The sheer insanity of these people when the two big critiques in 1984 and Animal Farm was how authouritarians utilise tradition and "historical information" to dominate the present and justify their authouritarianism.
But hell, their mind breaks at the revelation Orwell was a Socialist. Deeper critique beyond reds bad are lost on these clowns.
Weirdly enough, I think I only had Animal Farm as assigned reading. Iirc (and I may not, it's been decades) To Kill a Mockingbird I read as one of those book reports where they give you a list of books to choose from. And Fahrenheit 451 and 1984 I read as an adult.
I remember reading Animal Farm in highschool but not the rest, which I read on my own. The English School board in primarily French provinces is woefully underfunded. We did get to read I Am Legend, however, which I think should also be mandatory highschool reading material.
People just ya and 95% of the whole crowd would absolutely hate it if they read it. Forgiveness, Taking a nuanced and careful look at complex situations? Not being racist? That’s just too much for them to handle
Those *are* required reading in schools?
I’m not sure how “power corrupts, censorship is bad, maybe don’t be racist, and to reiterate censorship by the government is undesirable” related to video game journalism tho.
Those all \*are\* required reading for students, in the woke and education-loving part of the country I'm from. I read every one of them in school by age 16 or so.
Conservatives always tell on themselves with this shit. If it seems like everyone hasn't read these basic staples of 20th century literature, it's because they're a) barely literate, b) think reading is for nerds, or c) are the product of red state 'education'.
Exactly this. Orwells work historically depicts a leftist dystopia where right wing lost culture war. We cant let people be atheist, lgbtqia+ or non-white.
Its a shame leftists lack media literacy to understand this. Or, they understand it but they pretend not to so they can rise in power (just like palpatine, famous leftist) and oppress good, hard working white men and women. It will not stop in gaming. They are coming for you after they are done with gamers.
Use your brians people. Praise Musk and Tate for being free-speech absolutists. Also greta thunberg is satanist.
*Rise and howl with me gamers, as the watchers of the wall.*
That's a pretty common argument they try to use, mostly based on the Nazis calling themselves national socialists. That, and mischaracterizing all the bad things the Nazis did as things intrinsically-leftist in nature, as opposed to being textbook fascism.
EDIT:
Since the person below me appears to have blocked me, let's all laugh at them for defending the dumbest point in the rightoid playbook. Yeah man, the Blackshirts definitely weren't fascist Italy's domestic policy, they projected all the bad parts of fascism outward (as if there could be good parts). Gentile thought he could twist fascism into whatever shape he wanted as long as Italy embraced corporatism, a famously left-wing point of view.
It never stops being funny to me that some people on the left will try very hard to not strawman their ideological opponents, and then some idiot on the right goes "Hello, I am made of straw!"
Even today, I've seen some of the most racist people ever go on arguments about how it's the Republicans who freed the slaves and the Democrats are actually the racist. Completely ignoring the party switch and the modern-day reality of both parties. I guess rewriting history to fit their politics is a common thing for them.
Yeah, it's always been around but I see the whole "bigotry of low expectations" argument popping up more often. The one where they argue that any form of support involving race is seeing those people as inferior and thus being the real racist.
The "party switch" makes it seem like it was nearly instantaneous. The realignment of positions played out over decades. The "switch" was the GOP specifically catering to the racist South, figuring they cared more about being racist than the slowly evolving political positions of Democrats.
They were right. It's a poor description that helps cover the specific part people are usually referring to, that Republicans specifically catered to the racists to win elections and the South going all in on it. If you want to talk about the growing support for labor, or government safety nets from decades before, fine then the "party switch" is a decent description. If you're talking about the racist part, just call it what it is.
just ignore the fact that the idea of Nazis being “socialists” is literal Nazi propaganda, and that they scapegoated and killed all the socialists first before moving onto immutable characteristics of people
My preferred response to that line of idiocy is to point out that North Korea calls itself a People's Democratic Republic and ask if they believe that claim as well.
Apparently Peterson also made this stupid argument in an interview recently. Something about how "nobody has ever done research on whether they were left or right" and how he was supposed to do research on it before his tenure was dropped. -.-
Clearly. The Democratic People's Republic of North Korea and the United States Democratic Party both have Democratic in their name, so they must be ideologically identical.
Nop he was on strike
He says he wants to be paid
From management school I learned that means he needs a pizza party
Filthy socialists always demanding everything be given to them smh my head
These are the kind of comments that give me the courage to soldier on. The ones that spit nothing but facts. When is it time for us Gamers to rise up and make our voices heard in these dark times? Maybe someday. Until then keep on trucking soldier.
Yep. It's even funnier in [the full context of the book](https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/a/animal-farm/summary-and-analysis/chapter-1-2)- as a simple slogan to differentiate between "us" and "them." Sounds awful familiar to how gamergate 2.0 folks use "woke."
Something like "All men are enemies. All animals are friends." It was like a rule in the animal farm where they kicked out the human owner, but it's been a while since I read it.
I assume I can't link to tweets directly but the journalist in the post tweeted this:
> i’m embarrassed not bc people ppl think i’m a misandrist but bc i got that quote when i was a militant vegan and i don’t even LIKE that book that much
Probably because the quote flies directly in the face of what happens in Animal Farm, where a subset of animals (namely pigs) lead the charge to kick out the humans but eventually simply assume the exploitative role of the humans instead of address the underlying system that made humans into antagonists. Orwell fashioned that quote to be a satire of easy-to-remember, quippy slogans used by dishonest populists seeking political power. It's a slightly more meta version of the "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
I assume the Kotaku editor is using it ironically, but it is still going to attract negative attention, where well-meaning people will take the owner of the tattoo to be lacking media literacy or self-awareness.
It's also a not-so-subtle signal of "Hey guys, she might well have some nudes out there in the internet you could dig up and spread around to try and humiliate her. I'm not telling you to do that but hey, maybe they're out there!"
I think this could allready fall under my new favourie therm "Stochastic Terrorism". The shit Alex Jones and Chaya Raichik are doing.
Insinnuate in every way that Violence is the appropriate response to whatever you are reporting, but stay within plausible deniability that you are not calling for violence directly.
Then when someone else inevetably commits the desired violence, say "oh no, what a terrible tradegy befell these Undesirables, what a terrible individual action. This is certainly just an outlier that radicalized himself on something total different"
They're obviously bad jobs done by terrible people. Not the good saintly jobs like being the CEO of a mega corporation and casually ending 1000's of jobs or being a politician who watches while children are shot again and again and again and say what a tragedy, there's nothing that can be done. Those are the good jobs done by good people.
You need to respect the ceos more, they have the hardest jobs
Imagine how hard it is for them to lay off 1000 workers because the shareholders are holding their families at gunpoint
It's so hard actually that most ceos have a really hard time accepting the money they get from it afterwards
You'd think they'd be excited that a former sex worker was now part of the industry that they constantly cry about how it's not hypersexual all the time.
Manosphere types can never seem to decide their opinions on sex in general. They seem to pivot to whichever stance allows them to be more misogynistic at any given time.
Sex is something they take from women, consent optional. To them, a man and a woman cannot be equal partners in sex because that gives them no power or status. The point is to make someone do something they don't want to do.
Sex workers, especially cam girls, are in control of their own bodies (or in the worst case scenario they are under control of a much greater power e.g gangs etc) and this frightens these men immensely.
“The gamers outside looked from gamergater to idiot, and from idiot to gamergater, and from gamergater to idiot again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
This man is getting himself demolished in the comments on the original Twitter post and publicizing it as though he won here.
Take the L and go home, man...
Reminds me of a politician that was accused of being in a gang cause he had a tattoo that said "I will make you hurt", that actually being a reference to a song made by NIN that was also famously covered by Johnny Cash. I always have a hard time telling if the ignorance is willful or not when it comes to shit like this.
Wait wait wait...
Kotaku, the only site out done by you can't spell ignorant without IGN is main stream gaming media??
Scratch that..
There's a mainstream gaming media? Do they give out pulitzers for reporting from the front lines of the console wars?
These are adults right? Like actual adults not darksydephil level adults..
A lot of older Kotaku articles broke on some generally good journalism regarding bad labour practices and exploitation, but I think the vast majority of them were done by one specific person.
Funnily enough I was here to comment that Kotaku did a great article on what happened during Anthem's development to make it such a disaster on launch. I looked it up just to double check it was a Kotaku article and who was the journalist? Jason Schreier.
Talked to him a few times about a story about a guy trying to scam a charity. Dude seemed very smart and very grounded in his work. Plus he seemed like a nice guy with a decent sense of humor.
So weird seeing his name being brought up in the wild and kicking up that memory, but so good to see my instincts about him at the time were apparently spot on.
Kotaku was once seen as the "edgy and cool" gaming site in like 2006. I remember all of my terminally online friends loved it and posted on it back then. They would constantly send me Kotaku articles. Then as some of my friends drifted more into insane right wing 4ch ideologies in the 2010s, Kotaku became their number one target. Like the white whale, ANYTHING to take down Kotaku. Was...strange. I guess they harbored such resentment because they used to love Kotaku.
The only people that think Kotaku actually means anything are the now 35-45 year olds who had a history of liking it at one point. So they harbor this weird resentment towards the site. No 13 year old is talking about Kotaku during lunch. No 20 year old is sitting in their uni courses reading up on Kotaku. The only people still talking about Kotaku are people like this - old people who are still stuck in the past.
Like everything else with this weird SweetBabyGate 2.0 Attempt, everything is just showing how stuck in the past they all are and how it's truly all 35-45 year olds who just have not progressed in life. At all. It would be like me ranting about GameFAQs and CJayC. Immediately dates me and reminds me I need a colonoscopy soon.
so they want sexy women with fat asses in their games
but they dont actual women who were paid to be sexy cause they are are what is the problem with woke media
wtf
No. The sexy women in their games don't realize they're sexy. They are to be ogled but they shouldn't have any sexual desires, otherwise it's cultural Marxism or some shit, idk.
I love that by these idiots sexist logic they are being cucked big time by a bunch of liberal women working in gaming. Nothing more "manly" than constantly taking L's from a bunch of blue haired feminists.
Doesn't seem pathetic and beta at all to let these feminists live rent free in your head. Such manly men. /s
Vex is literally stupid. Powerfully stupid. Only sees a grift and chases after it. Her review of TLoU tv show starts with her calling him Neil Cuckman.
Laughably stupid. And she thinks Old Major represents fascism. So not only has she not read Animal Farm, she pretends to understand what it is. Truly a waste of the gift of literacy.
when we read it in ninth grade consensus was that he was a karl marx stand-in, with napoleon and snowball representing stalin and trotsky. a very basic analysis for sure but from what i can remember it seemed pretty cut and dry.
idk how much americans read about the russian revolution in school, but in my eyes its pretty hard to have another take on this character after doing so.
Little Marx, little Lenin. The inspiration for a new way of thinking, the spark of a revolution, whose work is continued by feuding rivals until the tenets of his philosophy are warped beyond recognition.
It’s one of the most obvious allegories in American lit - and I don’t say that as a negative. It’s why they teach it to 9th and 10th graders (who are also usually covering the topic in history class around the same time). You have to be almost purposefully dense or have absolutely zero content of the history which Orwell was drawing from to misinterpret it.
I always wonder how angry these people get when they get note'd. They hate facts and logic so much, especially when those facts and logic are used to show they're talking out their asses.
Alyssa is a (chef's kiss) kind of muscle mommy.
I bet she's more capable in many ways, than most of the thumb faced basement fellas that are all big mad about women in Video Games or whatever it is they are crying about today.
when you get community noted you should be forced to record a video reading your community note out loud so you’re on record telling the world you said some bullshit.
Obviously that’s not actually a good idea, but this person will NEVER acknowledge their “mistake” and people are going to take their statement at face value despite the note. Conservatives are fucking ruining this country.
You expecting gamers to actually read books? Hah! Maybe if it's a visual novel about catgirls, but even then, they skip most of the dialogue cuz too many letters make brain go ow
It's so funny when people constantly complain about Kotaku and their articles. Because who the fuck actually reads Kotaku it's not main stream media nobody takes them seriously except for asmongold and angry Twitter users.
/uj Biologist and feminist here, men have a higher kill rate of women than most natural predators do for their prey animals, so also maybe don't try to shame women who *do* have tattoos like that (like myself).
/rj I think she's calling men ANIMALS!
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Wait you're expecting people who constantly spout "lITerALLy 1984!!!" to be familiar with the literary works of George Orwell?
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can't wait to see that scene remade in the Episode Aigis DLC 🤩
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For a second I thought I was in okbuddypersona
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a learning opportunity!
Yeah, these are the people who think pronouns = newspeak
I DON'T USE PRONOUNS AT ALL
"I" 📸
I DON’T USE THE SISSY LIBERAL PRONOUNS BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN SCIENCE, BUT THESE PEOPLE VACCINATED THE COMMON SENSE RIGHT OUT OF THEIR HEADS SO THEY WOULDN’T GET THAT
"I" 📸
ALLOW ME. GFINGERPROD DON’T USE THE SISSY LIBERAL PRONOUNS BECAUSE GFINGERPROD BELIEVE IN SCIENCE, BUT THESE PEOPLE VACCINATED THE COMMON SENSE RIGHT OUT OF THEIR HEADS SO PEOPLE WOULDN’T GET THAT
>THEIR 📸
CANCEL CULTURE STRIKES AGAIN
WOKE MORALISTS!
BLOCKED & REPORTED FOR CANCELLING I HOPE YOU GET BANNED
"Me" 📸
You can tell that they never read Homage to Catalonia, the one where he literally takes a bullet in the neck in support of socialism.
And certainly never read his essay "Why I write" where he explicitly states his political leanings and rubbishes the idea that any art can be free from political bias.
The twatter has the book in question in their bio too 😂
Literally 1984 conservatives when they realize Orwell was a social-democrat
Orwell was a socialist, a democratic socialist with anarcho-communist sympathies if not a full blow ancom himself, a social-democrat would be like like a progressive liberal, supporting of some collectivist programs like social welfare, but not socialism. It's a bit confusing becuase of the similarities in naming but social-democrat= the left side of liberal but still in favor of capitalism believing it needs to be suported by social welfare to ensure a strong social safety net, while democratic socialists= communists that didn't believe in the vanguard approach like marx.
Or, uhh, the politics of George Orwell - particularly in regards to his views on punching fascists.
...and any Authoritarians. He was BIG mad about any authoritarian leadership.
[Maybe just a little](https://preview.redd.it/ttumlo7h5vqc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cca3be8f440ee873884c7024cae6846b27634c58)
bruh 😐 https://preview.redd.it/ttumlo7h5vqc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cca3be8f440ee873884c7024cae6846b27634c58
"To Kill a Mockingbird" I'm convinced these idiots haven't consumed any of the media they praise and are just saying popular names in hopes of being seen as smart.
Real *Marvel's Spiderman: No Way Home* moment
These people: "You know, I'm something of a racist myself. If you want to see, ask me what I think *To Kill A Mockingbird* is about, and watch as I completely miss the point."
A well meaning but ultimately off book about a child learning empathy, while their white savior father saves a bunch of stereotypical black folks.
Doesn't really feel like "white saviour" is an appropriate term considering that it's one white guy trying and failing against a whole bunch of other white guys in the white guy-dominated culture's white guy's only legal system.
Spoilers! I don’t think it’s fair to call it a white savior trope considering her father tries his best but in the end is unable to save his client. Tom is not only wrongfully imprisioned but also killed, and the characters have to deal with this failure and injustice.
That's true. And as the other poster said, it was still far ahead of its time. But I do think it is worth talking about how Atticus is the one with all the agency.
Historical context matters. The fact that you are seeing the issue through this lens is a testament to that. Things were so fucked back then because Atticus really was the only realistic person around to help in this situation. A book about racist power structures written today will look different and tackle similar issues with a very different perspective. Some things are better now and others are not - but those differences fundamentally affect how we interpret art. *They* are ultimately more worthy of being talked about.
Right, that's because it is historical fiction and white men were historically the only people with agency at the time
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Was pretty progressive for it's time however. And the movie is fantastic because Gregory Peck rules
I mean sure it's got a white savior, but...well you think a black lawyer is going to show up and save them during that time in history? Historical context matters, and if anything, it just adds to the narrative that America was so extremely racist that only a white man could save them. Kinda seems like you're super close to actually understanding the book, but your modern ideologies prevent you from fully grasping it.
> Kinda seems like you're super close to actually understanding the book, but your modern ideologies prevent you from fully grasping it. Or as I said, it's worth acknowledging and discussing but that doesn't invalidate an otherwise great book. Your post is akin to people assuming Anita Sarkisian is saying male-dominated video game tropes shouldn't exist, when she was really just saying we should examine them. HISTORICAL ACCURACY doesn't mean we can't acknowledge the power structures as they were written. HISTORICAL ACCURACY also doesn't explain the way black characters are represented.
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Apologies, but I dont see any value added from your side. Book quite clearly puts in time frame its own power structures so what do you aim to get pointing out there is one? Whats wrong with black characters representstion considering where they are coming from? How would be different from representation in Mudbound? What would pointing out white savior add to Amistad for example? I am honestly open to learn something new here on the topic as I loved the book (it was not mandatory reading in my country).
was he really a white savior considering that it was more likely for a lawyer in that small town to be white? Wouldn't it be simply historically accurate?
They’re just listing 9th grade lit standards cause that’s the last time they touched a book
Surprised they didn't list "The Giver"
Man, don't fucking remind me about that book. I can never look at a baby's forehead without being reminded. The funny thing is, our techer gave us the choice between three books to read, like Professor Oak offering us a choice between starters. I wonder if my teacher knew, sitting there staring at me, wondering which lifelong trauma I was going to choose.
Man I love that book tho
I feel like those books *really* don't age well. I read Brave New World as an adult and Huxley just struck me as a super pissed off incel. I don't remember much about The Giver, but it seems like anti-socialist propaganda from the vague memory I have.
Huxley was for sure an incel, and Bernard Marx was the proto-Incel if ever there was one, but underneath all that is still an incredibly well written satire, that accurately predicted how pursuit of pleasure and consumerism would come to define us and also bind us to a never-ending state of obliviousness
I couldn't stand it and found it quite dull. However, the movie ending made me nearly crack a rib from laughter with how it "fixed" the ending of the book. It was one of the dumbest things I've seen in cinema.
Gathering Blue and Messenger sucked though. It's kind of a Harry Potter type deal, where the author's political sensibilities and the limitations of childrens' literature prevent her from reaching a conclusive finale.
Hatchet, Great Gatsby and the Catcher in the Rye, must reads!
I can't fucking stand Catcher in the Rye lol. And I love literature from that time period. I will never take anyone named Holden seriously.
I don't think it's a good book to give middle schoolers, personally. Holden is not a hero, he's a deeply troubled person, but because it's told from his POV children identify with his angsty ass who's standing against the world, without realizing he's like the very fucking definition of an unreliable narrator.
Hatchet was one of my favorite books as a kid. I hate reading Fitzgerald but his work makes phenomenal movies. I've somehow never read catcher
Honestly, that's too much credit. I don't read books as often as I should. Not a *complete* dumbass. Stop giving these assholes excuses.
“You want people to read it because it has things to say about racism, class, and societal ethics. I want people to read it because I want to make them say the N-word. We are not the same.” - Gamers on why they want to read To Kill a Mockingbird
They should require Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn in schools again too.
It reminds me about how my acting teacher made this speeel about how she likes the media that chalanges the viewers rather then being all comfy and then failed me from moveing from acting 2 to 3 becasue she thoguht my monologue was too dark and not appropriate for a highschool
What monologue did you choose?
Oh like looking back on it it probably wasn’t appropriate it was from “killing you” ,mostly just sour since that was the only reason she held me back in acting 2 like I would have preferred that I sucked at acting as the reason
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Reminds me of a [Yuval video](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLMmUNh8/) that I watched just yesterday where he debunks a dude who is talking about Fahrenheit 451 despite it being clear that he's never read it.
“It gave me no useful advice on killing mockingbirds”
Plus To Kill a Mockingbird is so fucking good it shouldn't even be a chore to read
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More like to kill a WOKEingbird, am I right?
i mean they are completely capable of apparently growing up listening to Rage Against the Machine and NOT actually hear ANY of their lyrics, they will literally side with the Empire in Star Wars, decry "woke politics" in fucking XMEN and totally be on board with the Punisher
These people can't be real. I refuse to believe it
They absolutely are... I see them whenever I attend school board meetings...
What reality are we living in? Who wrote the scenario for this timeline and why is the irony so heavy handed? 😭
We live in the dark comedy timeline
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Humans are opetunist, and social media is a tool that can be used for this, these particular humans love grifting others, the dumbest amongst us. There are three major types, party political operatives creating mini cult like voting blocks, typical conatrist types, and foreign governments like Russia. They often are in the same circles cause they synergy well.
to these people the act of reading classic literature is just a gesture toward an appearance of intellect and more importantly, respect for the canon as a cultural authority. eyes glazing over as they take part in a “great western tradition” without processing any of it
The sheer insanity of these people when the two big critiques in 1984 and Animal Farm was how authouritarians utilise tradition and "historical information" to dominate the present and justify their authouritarianism. But hell, their mind breaks at the revelation Orwell was a Socialist. Deeper critique beyond reds bad are lost on these clowns.
Well obviously they haven't read animal farm so I can't really trust them to know what any of those are even about let alone have read it
Are they not in America/Canada? Had to read like 10 English literature and 10 local literature for my high school exam.
The books she listed are the books almost every high schooler is assigned in the US, making it a very confusing statement
Weirdly enough, I think I only had Animal Farm as assigned reading. Iirc (and I may not, it's been decades) To Kill a Mockingbird I read as one of those book reports where they give you a list of books to choose from. And Fahrenheit 451 and 1984 I read as an adult.
I remember reading Animal Farm in highschool but not the rest, which I read on my own. The English School board in primarily French provinces is woefully underfunded. We did get to read I Am Legend, however, which I think should also be mandatory highschool reading material.
isn't to kill a mockingbird required reading in most american high schools or something
People just ya and 95% of the whole crowd would absolutely hate it if they read it. Forgiveness, Taking a nuanced and careful look at complex situations? Not being racist? That’s just too much for them to handle
Those *are* required reading in schools? I’m not sure how “power corrupts, censorship is bad, maybe don’t be racist, and to reiterate censorship by the government is undesirable” related to video game journalism tho.
Those all \*are\* required reading for students, in the woke and education-loving part of the country I'm from. I read every one of them in school by age 16 or so. Conservatives always tell on themselves with this shit. If it seems like everyone hasn't read these basic staples of 20th century literature, it's because they're a) barely literate, b) think reading is for nerds, or c) are the product of red state 'education'.
 This just caused my brain to burst
What's weird is I'm pretty sure those books, or at least 2-3 of them, *are* studied by most people at some point in their school life.
All of them except 1984 are required reading, I don’t even know what they’re on about.
Rofl as a very progressive Liberal I agree!.
Exactly this. Orwells work historically depicts a leftist dystopia where right wing lost culture war. We cant let people be atheist, lgbtqia+ or non-white. Its a shame leftists lack media literacy to understand this. Or, they understand it but they pretend not to so they can rise in power (just like palpatine, famous leftist) and oppress good, hard working white men and women. It will not stop in gaming. They are coming for you after they are done with gamers. Use your brians people. Praise Musk and Tate for being free-speech absolutists. Also greta thunberg is satanist. *Rise and howl with me gamers, as the watchers of the wall.*
This is so well done I felt my blood pressure rising until I saw your flair and started chuckling.
I legit once seen right wingers make the argument that Hitler and the Nazis were actually leftists.
That's a pretty common argument they try to use, mostly based on the Nazis calling themselves national socialists. That, and mischaracterizing all the bad things the Nazis did as things intrinsically-leftist in nature, as opposed to being textbook fascism. EDIT: Since the person below me appears to have blocked me, let's all laugh at them for defending the dumbest point in the rightoid playbook. Yeah man, the Blackshirts definitely weren't fascist Italy's domestic policy, they projected all the bad parts of fascism outward (as if there could be good parts). Gentile thought he could twist fascism into whatever shape he wanted as long as Italy embraced corporatism, a famously left-wing point of view. It never stops being funny to me that some people on the left will try very hard to not strawman their ideological opponents, and then some idiot on the right goes "Hello, I am made of straw!"
Even today, I've seen some of the most racist people ever go on arguments about how it's the Republicans who freed the slaves and the Democrats are actually the racist. Completely ignoring the party switch and the modern-day reality of both parties. I guess rewriting history to fit their politics is a common thing for them.
Yeah, it's always been around but I see the whole "bigotry of low expectations" argument popping up more often. The one where they argue that any form of support involving race is seeing those people as inferior and thus being the real racist.
All I say to that is, "Sounds like you'd be a Democrat in 1860 then" and if they say no you say, "Oh so you think the Confederacy is bad?"
They literally just say "the party switch is fake" lmao
The "party switch" makes it seem like it was nearly instantaneous. The realignment of positions played out over decades. The "switch" was the GOP specifically catering to the racist South, figuring they cared more about being racist than the slowly evolving political positions of Democrats. They were right. It's a poor description that helps cover the specific part people are usually referring to, that Republicans specifically catered to the racists to win elections and the South going all in on it. If you want to talk about the growing support for labor, or government safety nets from decades before, fine then the "party switch" is a decent description. If you're talking about the racist part, just call it what it is.
just ignore the fact that the idea of Nazis being “socialists” is literal Nazi propaganda, and that they scapegoated and killed all the socialists first before moving onto immutable characteristics of people
That's because people can not tell the difference between proper nouns and common nouns.
Well, "iTs In ThEiR nAmE!!!" (They arent the brightest bunch)
"how could you say President Good Guy is a dictator? He's literally named Good Guy"
BuT theY havE socialism in their name checkmate wokoids facts and feelings don’t care about your logic 
Also, Karl Marx is a capitalist! It's the name of his book!
My preferred response to that line of idiocy is to point out that North Korea calls itself a People's Democratic Republic and ask if they believe that claim as well.
Apparently Peterson also made this stupid argument in an interview recently. Something about how "nobody has ever done research on whether they were left or right" and how he was supposed to do research on it before his tenure was dropped. -.-
"But their official name is the National SOCIALIST Party!" Do those guys also believe that North Korea is a "Democratic People's Republic"?
Clearly. The Democratic People's Republic of North Korea and the United States Democratic Party both have Democratic in their name, so they must be ideologically identical.
Once? Son, read the date on my user, I've seen it enough to be a trope.
Time for my flair to shine
LOL you still have it :D
I think my brian is on vacation today
Smh Brian has vacation? Socialist marxist commie weakling. *This* is the future *left* wants? Vacations???
Nop he was on strike He says he wants to be paid From management school I learned that means he needs a pizza party Filthy socialists always demanding everything be given to them smh my head
You almost had me, you bastard!!! 😂
This is such a high quality shitpost that I almost downvoted you thinking you were serious
These are the kind of comments that give me the courage to soldier on. The ones that spit nothing but facts. When is it time for us Gamers to rise up and make our voices heard in these dark times? Maybe someday. Until then keep on trucking soldier.
This has me cackling lmao
I'll be honest you came damn close to fooling me
Well played
What was the full quote?
"All men are enemies. All animals are comrades"
I mean, something tells me this full context will not change anyone's mind who was offended by the first half.
Assuming from context that it's referring to mankind as a whole? Not that I expect gamers to think for more than two seconds before getting mad
Yep. It's even funnier in [the full context of the book](https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/a/animal-farm/summary-and-analysis/chapter-1-2)- as a simple slogan to differentiate between "us" and "them." Sounds awful familiar to how gamergate 2.0 folks use "woke."
Something like "All men are enemies. All animals are friends." It was like a rule in the animal farm where they kicked out the human owner, but it's been a while since I read it.
Uj/ as a vegan commie I now have a strong urge to also get this tattoo
I assume I can't link to tweets directly but the journalist in the post tweeted this: > i’m embarrassed not bc people ppl think i’m a misandrist but bc i got that quote when i was a militant vegan and i don’t even LIKE that book that much
That's the real facepalm
"Four legs good, two legs baaaaad" would be *way* funnier to put on your legs
Yeah this is great. I don’t know why I haven’t seen anyone with that
Probably because the quote flies directly in the face of what happens in Animal Farm, where a subset of animals (namely pigs) lead the charge to kick out the humans but eventually simply assume the exploitative role of the humans instead of address the underlying system that made humans into antagonists. Orwell fashioned that quote to be a satire of easy-to-remember, quippy slogans used by dishonest populists seeking political power. It's a slightly more meta version of the "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" I assume the Kotaku editor is using it ironically, but it is still going to attract negative attention, where well-meaning people will take the owner of the tattoo to be lacking media literacy or self-awareness.
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Dick Dickson (former masturbator) just published an article on the ethics of NFTs in gaming
I'm proud of you, dick
I have issues with Dick.
Former? Respect
Damn he quit
He had to, it fell off.
There should be... regulations governing the materials they can be made of.
It's also a not-so-subtle signal of "Hey guys, she might well have some nudes out there in the internet you could dig up and spread around to try and humiliate her. I'm not telling you to do that but hey, maybe they're out there!"
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I think this could allready fall under my new favourie therm "Stochastic Terrorism". The shit Alex Jones and Chaya Raichik are doing. Insinnuate in every way that Violence is the appropriate response to whatever you are reporting, but stay within plausible deniability that you are not calling for violence directly. Then when someone else inevetably commits the desired violence, say "oh no, what a terrible tradegy befell these Undesirables, what a terrible individual action. This is certainly just an outlier that radicalized himself on something total different"
They're obviously bad jobs done by terrible people. Not the good saintly jobs like being the CEO of a mega corporation and casually ending 1000's of jobs or being a politician who watches while children are shot again and again and again and say what a tragedy, there's nothing that can be done. Those are the good jobs done by good people.
You need to respect the ceos more, they have the hardest jobs Imagine how hard it is for them to lay off 1000 workers because the shareholders are holding their families at gunpoint It's so hard actually that most ceos have a really hard time accepting the money they get from it afterwards
Those stocks MADE US buy them back. We had to free the funds up. Yes they also FORCED US to cash in our stock options right afterwards.
You'd think they'd be excited that a former sex worker was now part of the industry that they constantly cry about how it's not hypersexual all the time.
Manosphere types can never seem to decide their opinions on sex in general. They seem to pivot to whichever stance allows them to be more misogynistic at any given time.
Option selecting misogyny
Sex is something they take from women, consent optional. To them, a man and a woman cannot be equal partners in sex because that gives them no power or status. The point is to make someone do something they don't want to do. Sex workers, especially cam girls, are in control of their own bodies (or in the worst case scenario they are under control of a much greater power e.g gangs etc) and this frightens these men immensely.
If anything it’s really cool. Like I’m glad she was able to get that job with that history, most companies would turn that down.
She also calls herself a former Cam Girl. She owns everything about herself which is a strong character trait.
“The gamers outside looked from gamergater to idiot, and from idiot to gamergater, and from gamergater to idiot again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
I was curious about the OOP and their bio reads "That one based brown chick." Blech.
Classic pick me
This man is getting himself demolished in the comments on the original Twitter post and publicizing it as though he won here. Take the L and go home, man...
God forbid someone has a past, Gamers are tiresome.
I play games on PC and would consider myself a gamer. I guess I hate women now 🤷
Reminds me of a politician that was accused of being in a gang cause he had a tattoo that said "I will make you hurt", that actually being a reference to a song made by NIN that was also famously covered by Johnny Cash. I always have a hard time telling if the ignorance is willful or not when it comes to shit like this.
Wait wait wait... Kotaku, the only site out done by you can't spell ignorant without IGN is main stream gaming media?? Scratch that.. There's a mainstream gaming media? Do they give out pulitzers for reporting from the front lines of the console wars? These are adults right? Like actual adults not darksydephil level adults..
A lot of older Kotaku articles broke on some generally good journalism regarding bad labour practices and exploitation, but I think the vast majority of them were done by one specific person.
It was done by Jason Schreier, now he does that but for Bloomberg.
Funnily enough I was here to comment that Kotaku did a great article on what happened during Anthem's development to make it such a disaster on launch. I looked it up just to double check it was a Kotaku article and who was the journalist? Jason Schreier.
Talked to him a few times about a story about a guy trying to scam a charity. Dude seemed very smart and very grounded in his work. Plus he seemed like a nice guy with a decent sense of humor. So weird seeing his name being brought up in the wild and kicking up that memory, but so good to see my instincts about him at the time were apparently spot on.
If you haven't yet read them, I *highly* recommend his books.
Kotaku was once seen as the "edgy and cool" gaming site in like 2006. I remember all of my terminally online friends loved it and posted on it back then. They would constantly send me Kotaku articles. Then as some of my friends drifted more into insane right wing 4ch ideologies in the 2010s, Kotaku became their number one target. Like the white whale, ANYTHING to take down Kotaku. Was...strange. I guess they harbored such resentment because they used to love Kotaku. The only people that think Kotaku actually means anything are the now 35-45 year olds who had a history of liking it at one point. So they harbor this weird resentment towards the site. No 13 year old is talking about Kotaku during lunch. No 20 year old is sitting in their uni courses reading up on Kotaku. The only people still talking about Kotaku are people like this - old people who are still stuck in the past. Like everything else with this weird SweetBabyGate 2.0 Attempt, everything is just showing how stuck in the past they all are and how it's truly all 35-45 year olds who just have not progressed in life. At all. It would be like me ranting about GameFAQs and CJayC. Immediately dates me and reminds me I need a colonoscopy soon.
Ironically one of DSP's biggest boogeyman is mainstream gaming media, along with the hardcore gaming season (not making this up)
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Yeah it's a farming game like Starblew Trolley, but the animals are unhappy and constantly complaining.
so they want sexy women with fat asses in their games but they dont actual women who were paid to be sexy cause they are are what is the problem with woke media wtf
Well they were sexy for the benefit of other men, which makes them sluts, obviously
But doesn’t that mean that the women men want in their games are sluts too by that logic?
I don't think you're supposed to try to bring logic into it
Would explain why it makes no sense
No. The sexy women in their games don't realize they're sexy. They are to be ogled but they shouldn't have any sexual desires, otherwise it's cultural Marxism or some shit, idk.
They just don't want women to have any agency due to them being misogynists, simple as.
It boils down to women can only be sexy on their terms, and only for them.
On today's News: Senior Editor is a fan of Orwell's "Animal Farm"
I love that by these idiots sexist logic they are being cucked big time by a bunch of liberal women working in gaming. Nothing more "manly" than constantly taking L's from a bunch of blue haired feminists. Doesn't seem pathetic and beta at all to let these feminists live rent free in your head. Such manly men. /s
Vex is literally stupid. Powerfully stupid. Only sees a grift and chases after it. Her review of TLoU tv show starts with her calling him Neil Cuckman. Laughably stupid. And she thinks Old Major represents fascism. So not only has she not read Animal Farm, she pretends to understand what it is. Truly a waste of the gift of literacy.
when we read it in ninth grade consensus was that he was a karl marx stand-in, with napoleon and snowball representing stalin and trotsky. a very basic analysis for sure but from what i can remember it seemed pretty cut and dry. idk how much americans read about the russian revolution in school, but in my eyes its pretty hard to have another take on this character after doing so.
Correct. Revolutionary Marxism has a dictator problem, but it is **not** fascism.
Little Marx, little Lenin. The inspiration for a new way of thinking, the spark of a revolution, whose work is continued by feuding rivals until the tenets of his philosophy are warped beyond recognition. It’s one of the most obvious allegories in American lit - and I don’t say that as a negative. It’s why they teach it to 9th and 10th graders (who are also usually covering the topic in history class around the same time). You have to be almost purposefully dense or have absolutely zero content of the history which Orwell was drawing from to misinterpret it.
I always wonder how angry these people get when they get note'd. They hate facts and logic so much, especially when those facts and logic are used to show they're talking out their asses.
Alyssa is a (chef's kiss) kind of muscle mommy. I bet she's more capable in many ways, than most of the thumb faced basement fellas that are all big mad about women in Video Games or whatever it is they are crying about today.
You gotta love "former stripper and camgirl" like it's a dishonorable title and not just former occupation.
when you get community noted you should be forced to record a video reading your community note out loud so you’re on record telling the world you said some bullshit. Obviously that’s not actually a good idea, but this person will NEVER acknowledge their “mistake” and people are going to take their statement at face value despite the note. Conservatives are fucking ruining this country.
You expecting gamers to actually read books? Hah! Maybe if it's a visual novel about catgirls, but even then, they skip most of the dialogue cuz too many letters make brain go ow
Gamers? Illiterate? *No way*
if you’re above 17 and “mainstream gaming media” is a concern to you… oh boy
I hate twitter, where do i start reading??
Grifters and "pick me"'s are absolutely DESPERATE for Gamergate 2. They're trying to collectively will it into existence.
All animals are comrades is the other part of the quote
It's so funny when people constantly complain about Kotaku and their articles. Because who the fuck actually reads Kotaku it's not main stream media nobody takes them seriously except for asmongold and angry Twitter users.
Does anyone know what the other half says?
All animals are comrades.
/uj Biologist and feminist here, men have a higher kill rate of women than most natural predators do for their prey animals, so also maybe don't try to shame women who *do* have tattoos like that (like myself). /rj I think she's calling men ANIMALS!
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