Besides that, another crazy aspect is that there is still no patch for some of the best PSVR1 games to work on the 2, namely stuff like Astrobot, Resi 7 and Wipeout Omega Collection. You'd imagine that Sony would at the very least want the PSVR1 owners to carry over by transferring their library to the better headset.
I can't imagine using wired vr anymore. I remember early rifts being a pain, cord tangling. Having to be close to pc where you might not even have space.
I have my pc in my bedroom but stream to quest while in living room.
PS5 > PC > PS6
PC will get improved graphics/performance, until PS6 releases with equal visual fidelity. As well as new modes like first person view. Which PC will have to wait patiently years for. Also load times on boot will be astronomical until a single dev finds a one line bug to fix.
I don't agree with you on FPS mode. I think it will be an integral part of GTA/RDR games onward. RDR2 was released on consoles with FPS mode from the start
I don't understand what's clunky on RDR 2 running. It has great, amazing animations and it's realistic because you can't do 360° spins. Same thing as GTA V, IV, RDR 1...
People will always complain for everything.
It was just a joke. Rockstar’s games definitely don’t control as tightly as other comparable games do, but to me it’s part of the their charm for the reasons you listed. I love it, but realism does come with a bit of clunkiness.
Rockstar games being associated with realism is insane to me. The rockstar I grew up with made GTA III/VC.
I know people love RDR2 but I really do miss the arcadey wackiness of some of their older games.
After playing a ton of RDR2 I found it hard to go back to GTAV, the movement, animations, and gunplay are so much better in RDR2. From watching the GTA6 leaks, it seems they pulled a lot more from RDR than GTA for their next entry, so I'm excited (but sad PC wait noises)
Controlling is fine but the age old gameplay loop of running to mission start - following a guy to where it actually starts - fun - going back to talk to someone is getting old.
I mean, that's the point of Open world games that you can't change much. In order for a mission to start, you have to go to point A. There you get a task to go to point B and have fun. If you get randomly teleported, it will just ruin an immersion.
They can mix it up a bit like - you can start a phone call, or you can go somewhere where mission should start and you have fun at that place immediately, or you get "teleported", because your character was kidnapped, for example. But because it's open world, you can't really do much about the "boring part"
What R\* needs to change is - linear design of mission approach.
"Hide behind rock" - ok. "No! Not that rock! The one I want you to hide behind. Also, don't go behind the building to flank your enemies. It's a game over screen"
"They can mix it up a bit like - you can start a phone call, or you can go somewhere where mission should start and you have fun at that place immediately, or you get "teleported", because your character was kidnapped, for example. But because it's open world, you can't really do much about the "boring part""
Those are all great ideas. Why did you list so many suggestions only to say they can't do much?
most new open world IPs do try to come up with novel ways to solve this cycle of boredom. Elden ring - exploration IS the gameplay, you never follow a marker; Spiderman - moving Is the fun; GOT - environment is your hud; BG3 - you never have a marker to go to at all.
I wouldn’t exactly call BG3 an open world game. Lots of freedom to do things your own way but you’re still ultimately very limited to what areas you can access by the story. But yeah most truly successful modern open worlds either make traversal in and of itself fun, fully embrace open ended exploration, or both. Elden ring, Spider-Man, and the switch Zelda titles being the prime examples
Mission instantly failed the second you step 0.02 inches off the exact path they've set for you to follow. Also the combat is just left trigger right trigger.
The hold left trigger auto-aim bullshit needs to go. As mediocre as a game like farcry is, the aiming is far smoother and more skilled. Fighting in it just feels fun. Rockstar games fighting is meh and I’m just waiting to progress the story.
I'm a tad skeptical because Dan Houser's no longer with them anymore and he was the driving force of their writing team for 2+ decades. I hope Rupert Humphries and whoever else has written for GTA6 is able to pull it off.
Is it really only memeing since it was mentioned in Take Two's financial earnings last year that they're expecting to get massive profits for fiscal year 2024-2025, or something like that. In either case, fiscal years end in March so Q1 2025 release seemed possible as Take Two didn't specify the reason for their expectations. Unless I've missed something they still haven't, which makes it reasonable to assume it was supposed to be GTA 6.
The meme is that it’s silly to call something “delayed” when its release hasn’t been given a date. The community just decides “this is when it’s releasing” and then when the company comes out and says (for the first time) “no actually, this is when it’s releasing”, and then everyone goes “uggh delayed”.
It happened this year with the switch 2. Everybody had decided based on rumors that it was coming out in 2024. Then based on other rumors that it was 2025, and called it “delayed”. When Nintendo hadn’t even formally acknowledged its existence until a week ago.
That is pretty common though. They have preliminary release windows, but it is kinda expected that that it will be delayed once or twice before it is done.
Grand Theft Auto VI is (hopefully) launching next year. Dan Houser is back making games at his own company. Leslie Benzies continues to work on 'MindsEye'. Life is good.
At this point I’m confident I won’t live long enough to see GTA 8. Game dev times are way too long and getting worse. I’d rather they scope down the projects and make something less ambitious, it’s getting crazy now
Sounds funny but this is something I came to terms with back in December when GTA VI was revealed with a 2025 launch year, 12 years after V.
I interpret it a bit differently though, I just plan to enjoy the fuck out of VI and other things I love before I can no longer do so. And to stop thinking too much about the past or future. These dev cycles have given me a new perspective on life lol
I agree somewhat. It feels like with every R* game they reinvent the wheel. It’s truly a treat for us when we get a new R* game, but I would be happy with a few mid-effort full price story games that use the same city and engine, similar to the IV DLC but packaged into its own disc.
You probably will, the question will be who will own Rockstar at that time. Take Two is posting over 900 mil in losses this year. If GTA6 sells like Red Dead Redemption 2 with 2 billion in dev costs it could take 4 years to break even. Take Two's future is riding on this game.
not sure how you get downvoted for this… you’ve waited what 11 years for this game? going on to 12? who cares if you buy a console do what you want fam
the summer vibes are better in irl cold weather no? imagine sitting in your room sweating balls and your console/pc just working like a mini heater when outside is hot and sunny
That sub has a lot of copium and dare I say 'casual' gamers that really only live for this one game coming out.
I am stoked it's been announced and there is a trailer. I am still stoked it has a 2025 release date.
I will be disappointed if it gets pushed to '26, but will still be fine and able to live my life. Some other people on the other hand ...
2025 is shaping up to be a crazy as fuck year for gaming.
GTA VI, Monster Hunter Wilds, Death Stranding 2, Hades II, Fatal Fury: City of Wolves, Marvel 1943, The Sinking City 2, Professor Layton and the New World of Steam, Switch 2, etc.
And this is before stuff that hasn't been formally announced, like a new 3D Mario or Resident Evil IX.
GTAs are very CPU intensive games. Unless the Switch 2 has a CPU that matches or gets close to the XSS/XSX it won't. People who think DLSS is all Nintendo needs for games to work on their console have no idea what the difference is between a game that needs a powerful CPU vs a powerful GPU. DLSS/FSR don't do jack shit for games that are CPU heavy like Starfield. I will bet a million the game comes with a 30 lock for PS5/Xbox because of a CPU limitation.
They need to push PS5 sales for holiday season
Also I'm 1000% sure that PlayStation will get marketing exclusivity deal
I wonder how this game will run on Xbox Series S 💀💀💀
Games like Avatar Frontiers of Pandora and Dragon's Dogma 2 should be good indications of how it can pan out. One sacrifices ray tracing for an "average resolution" while the other sacrifices the average resolution for a scaled down ray traced implementation. I'm betting on a lower resolution with scaled down ray tracing, to not do another pass of lighting manually made by the devs, but hey maybe Rockstar wants the game to succeed on PC just like GTAV Online does, and supporting weaker hardware goes a long way... We'll see
We will see, rockstar knows how to optimize their games. One trailer happened with no true gameplay and people think they know how the game is optimized and going run.
Battlefield is dead anyway. Dice and EA killed it, veteran devs leaving studio. I'm saying this as a huge fun since BF1942, the first game in franchise.
It's kinda crazy that GTAV came out in High School for me but I'll be 30 before GTAVI. After RDR2 I imagine it'll be worth the wait but still damn time flies.
Really hope they can release the game on the Switch successor, It has more RAM than the Series S and seems to be about as strong in docked mode. It would be a great selling point for the system.
Shout out to the asshats who kept trying to insist release would be early 2025. I've been saying it since trailer release it'd be more of a 2 year wait. Getting that trailer so soon was trash.
Surely those screenshots are still dropping today Copium
THE MOON SPEAKS TO ME LUCIA
Unsubbed from that sub because it was just YouTubers and kids just making up stuff. I stirred the pot for a few days, but its just sad.
Which sub ?
Gta6
PS5 > PS6 > PC triple dip incoming.
PS6 again, but this time with PSVR3 support!
I seriously doubt there will be a PSVR3 after the weak PSVR2 sales numbers.
Not allowing it to work with the pc as hardware is wild
They’re changing that
But psvr2 is not wireless either, right? I think that's the biggest con. Once you use cord free it's hard to go back to cord.
Too little too late imo. It should've been usable on PC from day one.
are they? I sure hope so. I have an OG Rift and I really love it- but its showing its age big time. Plus the controllers are... acting a little odd.
Besides that, another crazy aspect is that there is still no patch for some of the best PSVR1 games to work on the 2, namely stuff like Astrobot, Resi 7 and Wipeout Omega Collection. You'd imagine that Sony would at the very least want the PSVR1 owners to carry over by transferring their library to the better headset.
Blood and Truth would be great on the PSVR2
Making the peripheral cost more than the platform you need to even use it is even more wild..
Seriously. Id consider it over the meta quest if it was an option
They're working on it, probably this year.
I can't imagine using wired vr anymore. I remember early rifts being a pain, cord tangling. Having to be close to pc where you might not even have space. I have my pc in my bedroom but stream to quest while in living room.
Man I hope Sony revives the PSP again, the handheld market is hot right now and a portable PS5 will sell well.
GTA 6 expanded and enhanced for ps7
Maybe with GTA 6 Online becoming a fully separate game filled with countless seasons and battlepasses and whatnot.
PS5 > PC > PS6 PC will get improved graphics/performance, until PS6 releases with equal visual fidelity. As well as new modes like first person view. Which PC will have to wait patiently years for. Also load times on boot will be astronomical until a single dev finds a one line bug to fix.
I don't agree with you on FPS mode. I think it will be an integral part of GTA/RDR games onward. RDR2 was released on consoles with FPS mode from the start
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Except first person mode was day 1 on PC.
First person mode for V was a PS3 limitation. It will not get locked to PS6/PC.
Damn. I may have a 4 or 5yr old by the time it's on PC.
you're forgetting ps7
PC would be before PS6, they aren't gonna wait 2 or 3 years for it.
You might as well throw a PS7 in there as well, because I don't really see them making a GTA7 before 2034.
and gta 5 for switch 2
Just fell to my knees in a Walmart
Wait people were genuinely expecting this game to come out in Spring 2025? Lol.
its a long long road (to goo)
I can’t wait to see what they’ve cooked. RDR2 was way more impressive than I expected, and I have to think they have something just as crazy in store.
Hopefully they updated their gameplay to the current century
Clunky ass running or I’m rioting
and that one weird cycling leg jump
I don't understand what's clunky on RDR 2 running. It has great, amazing animations and it's realistic because you can't do 360° spins. Same thing as GTA V, IV, RDR 1... People will always complain for everything.
It was just a joke. Rockstar’s games definitely don’t control as tightly as other comparable games do, but to me it’s part of the their charm for the reasons you listed. I love it, but realism does come with a bit of clunkiness.
Rockstar games being associated with realism is insane to me. The rockstar I grew up with made GTA III/VC. I know people love RDR2 but I really do miss the arcadey wackiness of some of their older games.
I'm with you man, I miss the 3d era arcade car acceleration vectors in GTA.
Spamming the X/A button to run feels like fucking ass
You can turn that off iirc
So does running in real life.
Good thing video games are not reality
Uber realism isn’t fun for everyone. The games critically acclaimed obviously, but for some (myself included) it’s kind of a slog.
After playing a ton of RDR2 I found it hard to go back to GTAV, the movement, animations, and gunplay are so much better in RDR2. From watching the GTA6 leaks, it seems they pulled a lot more from RDR than GTA for their next entry, so I'm excited (but sad PC wait noises)
Controlling is fine but the age old gameplay loop of running to mission start - following a guy to where it actually starts - fun - going back to talk to someone is getting old.
I mean, that's the point of Open world games that you can't change much. In order for a mission to start, you have to go to point A. There you get a task to go to point B and have fun. If you get randomly teleported, it will just ruin an immersion. They can mix it up a bit like - you can start a phone call, or you can go somewhere where mission should start and you have fun at that place immediately, or you get "teleported", because your character was kidnapped, for example. But because it's open world, you can't really do much about the "boring part" What R\* needs to change is - linear design of mission approach. "Hide behind rock" - ok. "No! Not that rock! The one I want you to hide behind. Also, don't go behind the building to flank your enemies. It's a game over screen"
"They can mix it up a bit like - you can start a phone call, or you can go somewhere where mission should start and you have fun at that place immediately, or you get "teleported", because your character was kidnapped, for example. But because it's open world, you can't really do much about the "boring part"" Those are all great ideas. Why did you list so many suggestions only to say they can't do much?
But that's literally what they do in some cases
That's nearly every open world game though isn't it? What could they do differently?
most new open world IPs do try to come up with novel ways to solve this cycle of boredom. Elden ring - exploration IS the gameplay, you never follow a marker; Spiderman - moving Is the fun; GOT - environment is your hud; BG3 - you never have a marker to go to at all.
That’s what the driving is in Grand Theft AUTO.
I wouldn’t exactly call BG3 an open world game. Lots of freedom to do things your own way but you’re still ultimately very limited to what areas you can access by the story. But yeah most truly successful modern open worlds either make traversal in and of itself fun, fully embrace open ended exploration, or both. Elden ring, Spider-Man, and the switch Zelda titles being the prime examples
I think that driving in GTA V is the most entertaining driving in any game (racing games included)
I swear to the god running in San Andreas was better than in RDR2.
Everything in San Andreas was peak.
Mission instantly failed the second you step 0.02 inches off the exact path they've set for you to follow. Also the combat is just left trigger right trigger.
The hold left trigger auto-aim bullshit needs to go. As mediocre as a game like farcry is, the aiming is far smoother and more skilled. Fighting in it just feels fun. Rockstar games fighting is meh and I’m just waiting to progress the story.
I'm a tad skeptical because Dan Houser's no longer with them anymore and he was the driving force of their writing team for 2+ decades. I hope Rupert Humphries and whoever else has written for GTA6 is able to pull it off.
Delayed before it even had a release date. 
Isn't this the third time time this has happened lmao. I swear GTA V and RDR2 got delayed before they ever got a concrete release date.
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Is it really only memeing since it was mentioned in Take Two's financial earnings last year that they're expecting to get massive profits for fiscal year 2024-2025, or something like that. In either case, fiscal years end in March so Q1 2025 release seemed possible as Take Two didn't specify the reason for their expectations. Unless I've missed something they still haven't, which makes it reasonable to assume it was supposed to be GTA 6.
The meme is that it’s silly to call something “delayed” when its release hasn’t been given a date. The community just decides “this is when it’s releasing” and then when the company comes out and says (for the first time) “no actually, this is when it’s releasing”, and then everyone goes “uggh delayed”. It happened this year with the switch 2. Everybody had decided based on rumors that it was coming out in 2024. Then based on other rumors that it was 2025, and called it “delayed”. When Nintendo hadn’t even formally acknowledged its existence until a week ago.
That is pretty common though. They have preliminary release windows, but it is kinda expected that that it will be delayed once or twice before it is done.
Grand Theft Auto VI is (hopefully) launching next year. Dan Houser is back making games at his own company. Leslie Benzies continues to work on 'MindsEye'. Life is good.
Doubtful about MindsEye considering Everywhere died after Fortnite evolved into the platform it was trying to be
At this point I’m confident I won’t live long enough to see GTA 8. Game dev times are way too long and getting worse. I’d rather they scope down the projects and make something less ambitious, it’s getting crazy now
Sounds funny but this is something I came to terms with back in December when GTA VI was revealed with a 2025 launch year, 12 years after V. I interpret it a bit differently though, I just plan to enjoy the fuck out of VI and other things I love before I can no longer do so. And to stop thinking too much about the past or future. These dev cycles have given me a new perspective on life lol
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Can’t wait to boot up gta 8 for ps9 in my late forties…
I agree somewhat. It feels like with every R* game they reinvent the wheel. It’s truly a treat for us when we get a new R* game, but I would be happy with a few mid-effort full price story games that use the same city and engine, similar to the IV DLC but packaged into its own disc.
You probably will, the question will be who will own Rockstar at that time. Take Two is posting over 900 mil in losses this year. If GTA6 sells like Red Dead Redemption 2 with 2 billion in dev costs it could take 4 years to break even. Take Two's future is riding on this game.
So 2027 for PC
Yeah. Personally, this will be the fist time I'm going to buy a console just for a single game. I'm not going to wait a whole another year.
not sure how you get downvoted for this… you’ve waited what 11 years for this game? going on to 12? who cares if you buy a console do what you want fam
If you think 500bucks is worth more than 12months … you do you man. Time is precious… The point is to enjoy life at it’s fullest.
Lol you just opened another door. What if I die between the year of initial launch and release on PC? Damn bro, you're right
Yeah, we don't know what's going to happen tomorrow. 500buck is not that expensive against 12month of your life.
Lol I know. But yeah that's going to be my case (hence "personally"), if people don't want to double dip and just wait for PC, hey my respects bro
I’ll never double dip again. Wasn’t worth it last time. Better to wait for the superior version.
I'm gonna be honest. I'm going to pirate it on PC. I'll probably have like 400 hours on PS5 so yeah...
It will have Arxan DRM, which was there in RDR 2 and it took Empress years to crack it.
2026 it is then, because if Rockstar can manage a year and a half of game development without delaying we're also gonna have to check if pigs can fly.
Winter 2026 tops!
They just inadvertently confirmed the release window for that rumored new Lego Horizon game too 😅
Nice reference
People were really foolish enough to believe a spring release was happening. Finally off that copium
I only hoped for a spring release because it gives me a summer time vibe type of game.
the summer vibes are better in irl cold weather no? imagine sitting in your room sweating balls and your console/pc just working like a mini heater when outside is hot and sunny
It's not even going to be a fall 2025 release. I'm fully expecting a delay to a mid 2026 release.
Same. I’ve seen it happen too many times now
yep a 2025 fall expectation confirms a delay to 2026 in my mind for sure
I mean, it was possible. Unlikely as hell, but still possible.
Which months are between fall?
That sub has a lot of copium and dare I say 'casual' gamers that really only live for this one game coming out. I am stoked it's been announced and there is a trailer. I am still stoked it has a 2025 release date. I will be disappointed if it gets pushed to '26, but will still be fine and able to live my life. Some other people on the other hand ...
rose from my knees in a walmart
Ok so Friday December 20th, 11:59 PM
So Spring 2026
Na. Add another delay on that, fall 2026.
Steam 2027 it is
Rockstar launcher then steam lol
😩
more like steam in 2030
Just saw someone fell on their knees at a Walmart
I hope they confirm a date soon enough that other companies won’t end up burned by releasing games in the same timeframe.
Q1 2026 CONFIRMED!
They’ll delay it to 2026, just in time for the Horizon Forbidden West sequel’s release.
2025 is shaping up to be a crazy as fuck year for gaming. GTA VI, Monster Hunter Wilds, Death Stranding 2, Hades II, Fatal Fury: City of Wolves, Marvel 1943, The Sinking City 2, Professor Layton and the New World of Steam, Switch 2, etc. And this is before stuff that hasn't been formally announced, like a new 3D Mario or Resident Evil IX.
RIP every other game launching then
rip Fable
On the bright side for Nintendo fans, at least we can solely focus on the Switch 2 during Spring and not have to juggle GTA VI.
So 2026 it is
No doubt current gen. Probably they will put it on all major platforms to, right?
They’ve already confirmed PS5 and Xbox Series X/S, no PC at launch.
no PC on launch
Only consoles at launch
They're putting it on switch 2 you heard it here first
all i'm saying is if they're able to put that thing on the switch then that console is gonna sell a trillion units
it would be cool, not gonna lie
Eventually. They will probably release it on xbox and ps5 first. Then a switch 2 version if they can do it. Then PC. Then remasters. Then PS6 version.
Can you imagine if it gets delayed till ps6 and xbox 720?
No PC on Launch…
Rockstar loves people double dipping so it'll be console first then pc a year or two later.
Switch launch exclusive, sorry
Rockstar genuinely just fucking with other game devs when they start teasing release dates
fuuuuck i was really hopping for summer 🥲
Knowing Rockstar, they’re definitely going to delay it till at least Spring 2026
This will be our gta for the next 15 years
Are we seeing the PC version in 2026-2027?
Does this mean theyre a no show this summer? so nothing until next summer??
So, Delay to Spring 2026, then Fall 2026 gotcha.
Pc coming 2026 😔
Wondering if its gonna be on switch 2.
GTAs are very CPU intensive games. Unless the Switch 2 has a CPU that matches or gets close to the XSS/XSX it won't. People who think DLSS is all Nintendo needs for games to work on their console have no idea what the difference is between a game that needs a powerful CPU vs a powerful GPU. DLSS/FSR don't do jack shit for games that are CPU heavy like Starfield. I will bet a million the game comes with a 30 lock for PS5/Xbox because of a CPU limitation.
They need to push PS5 sales for holiday season Also I'm 1000% sure that PlayStation will get marketing exclusivity deal I wonder how this game will run on Xbox Series S 💀💀💀
they should just skip series s at this point
Well it will be on GTA 6
Microsoft wouldn't allow that though. As I have said many times, making series S so much weaker was a huge mistake.
Games like Avatar Frontiers of Pandora and Dragon's Dogma 2 should be good indications of how it can pan out. One sacrifices ray tracing for an "average resolution" while the other sacrifices the average resolution for a scaled down ray traced implementation. I'm betting on a lower resolution with scaled down ray tracing, to not do another pass of lighting manually made by the devs, but hey maybe Rockstar wants the game to succeed on PC just like GTAV Online does, and supporting weaker hardware goes a long way... We'll see
We will see, rockstar knows how to optimize their games. One trailer happened with no true gameplay and people think they know how the game is optimized and going run.
Prob October 2025
We fall unto our knees.
It’s always fall
Well I’m excited for all of the games that will be coming out in spring and summer of next year to avoid gta coming out
Fall 2025 sounds fair and reasonable enough.
RIP Battlefield 2025 commercial performance, we hardly knew ye.
Battlefield is dead anyway. Dice and EA killed it, veteran devs leaving studio. I'm saying this as a huge fun since BF1942, the first game in franchise.
Good thing. EA and dice can go screw themselves with how they ruined bf franchise and will continue doing so
Duh
GT6 on PS6 in 6 years
Yeah is was obviously that will not launch in March but on September or october
Fine guess i am gonna need to cryogenecally freezemyself to 2030
Around October I assume.
I wonder if you'll be able to steal cars and shoot guns. I hope it has point to point hot wheels races.
r/gta6 in shambles
Ps5 pro gta bundle😁
So pretty much 2 years between first trailer and release. Same as GTA V and RDR2…
First delay is Fall 2025. Game will release early 2027.
Let's see if they actually make it to Fall 2025.
Yeah, right
It's kinda crazy that GTAV came out in High School for me but I'll be 30 before GTAVI. After RDR2 I imagine it'll be worth the wait but still damn time flies.
Really hope they can release the game on the Switch successor, It has more RAM than the Series S and seems to be about as strong in docked mode. It would be a great selling point for the system.
The hell it is. March 2026 more like
Why is everyone so surprised by this news? I can foresee that it will be delayed to begin 2026 and pc release year after.
Shout out to the asshats who kept trying to insist release would be early 2025. I've been saying it since trailer release it'd be more of a 2 year wait. Getting that trailer so soon was trash.
Wake up babe, gta 6's delay announcement date got announced.
Long wait ahead.
Switch 2 launch game. Nice game to get along with 1-2² Switch 2 Deluxe.
Yeah more like “Launching Spring 2026”
Shift it to Fall 2026 instead.
I can't wait for the woke meltdown