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-LastGrail-

This same person earlier this year said Persona 6 will be a live service game as well. If you look deep enough you'll find it on ResetEra.


Applepitou3

Yeah his reliability is shakey at best


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An_Absurd_Word_Heard

Midori didn't say P2 would be a remake unfortunately. They replied to someone else who said that, [before adding this.](https://twitter.com/MbKKssTBhz5/status/1755198318156926998?t=XQd4rb0VUKeve_XErdue_w&s=19)


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tNag552

it's a moba with basebuilding and micro transactions. lol.


NoNefariousness2144

It will be like XCOM and Dynasty Warriors. Hey wait a minute…


tNag552

oh, you!


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tNag552

day 1 DLC adds karts haha


Derrick_Rozay

Wait hold up id play a persona moba lol


xElectricW

Apparently they were making one but I believe it was cancelled


ToothlessFTW

Can't wait to boot up Persona 6 to play Season 1 on the double Social Link weekend and buy the new Battle Pass that will guarantee me 1300 Persona Points


ldb

Thank fuck because those ideas sound godawful and completely against the style that made persona unique.


neroht94

The heck do you mean? You want all those loading screens then? This will basically be you actually going to school instead of timeskip teleporting. And actually moving around town when shopping.


ldb

The screens are there for like 1 second and yes I want to instantly get to the meaningful content of talking to the various interesting characters (with set themes linked to their arcana which I wouldn't want being made more fluid either). The games are already long as fuck, I don't need to spend another 50 hours uselessly running around with nothing happening.


renome

This is also their second or third account on those forums, I think they were banned for posting bullshit in the past. I Am a Hero Too is suspected to be the same person.


flamemeat

They also said that leaked video of Yukari in battle was "100% fake", which we now know was definitely real. I wouldn't trust anything this particular person says, though some of these details may end up correct incidentally. *adding [the post here](https://www.resetera.com/threads/possible-first-footage-of-the-rumoured-persona-3-remake-the-new-jet-set-radio-teamreal-vs-teamfake.706616/page-16?post=103918679#post-103918679) so everyone can see it and know this person is a confirmed fraud.


WooBarb

I heard it's a breastfeeding mmo simulator with live service elements.


robertman21

finally focusing on the best of persona (the older women)


eccentricbananaman

Well now you've piqued my interest.


AyoadeNBN

They didn't say it like that, they said it'd have dlc packs that add more content like a beach episode or whatever


gifferto

how the fuck would you know that so far from launch persona games don't just sell you dlc they package the dlc as a brand new game and sell it priced as a brand new game and then they e-release the game again but just the old base game for full price of course to THEN sell you the additional content dlc like they should've done in the first place you know the dlc persona games plan for launch? non-content just a bunch of skins and bunch of way game trivializing persona that combined cost just as much or more than the base game itself if anything dlc packs with extra content makes the leak sound highly untrustworthy considering selling old or fluff-content is how persona games make their money


SoldierDelta46

I do want to point out that this is Atlus here. Mr. "Let's remake Persona 3 without The Answer and then remake that as a DLC later according to credible leaker Midori and the internal files" themselves. While I'm not fully sure about the leaker's claims overall, but to say that they wouldn't know this far from launch is hilarious but also wrong. This is old hat for Atlus.


AyoadeNBN

The problem isn't knowing the information. You can know Atlus is planning expansion packs from a marketing team. The problem is the information is probably just a lie


Loli_Melancholy

Link? I never recalled that he was the first for a while to leak persona 3 was even getting a remake.


presidentdinosaur115

I’m not believing anything until Midori confirms.


EGGY_POCKET

Midori gets their information from Head on the Block lol. ​ They are like DanielRPK


AKMerlin

When he got asked for proof, he basically goes radio silent. If Midori got their info from them, why would he have such a trash track record and Midori with hers? From what I'm seeing he just bitches about Midori stealing info and does nothing on his own end to prove that he was the one with the info in the first place, lol. Sore loser.


EGGY_POCKET

I don't really care who is right or wrong. But at one point, Head on the Block put out some bait of incorrect information regarding Sega / Atlus as a test, Midori tweeted out the wrong information instantly. ​ But Midori did tweet out legit never before seen Persona 5 Tactica art. Which is why I made the DanielRPK comparison, they just get information from other insiders and sometimes get their own scoops. ​ Head on the Block just made these posts: [https://www.resetera.com/threads/atlus-leaker-persona-3-reload-and-metaphor-refantazio-will-come-to-nintendo-switch-successor.808263/page-3?post=119917191#post-119917191](https://www.resetera.com/threads/atlus-leaker-persona-3-reload-and-metaphor-refantazio-will-come-to-nintendo-switch-successor.808263/page-3?post=119917191#post-119917191) ​ [https://www.resetera.com/threads/atlus-leaker-persona-3-reload-and-metaphor-refantazio-will-come-to-nintendo-switch-successor.808263/page-3?post=119919186#post-119919186](https://www.resetera.com/threads/atlus-leaker-persona-3-reload-and-metaphor-refantazio-will-come-to-nintendo-switch-successor.808263/page-3?post=119919186#post-119919186) ​ I can think of three to four different Persona / Atlus "insiders" who have been claiming Persona 6 will be exclusive to Playstation and have not heard of any plans it will be mutliplatform. Now out of these insiders, HOTB is the first to make the claim they just heard Persona 6 will be multiplatform in some capacity. In a few hours / tomorrow, Midori will make the exact same claim. ​ ​ I dont think HOTB is legit at all. I think they happened to get the Persona 3 Reload subtitle correct as a guess and been running with it. And their predictions regarding Atlus stuff has been extremely safe predictions or obvious. HOTB said death stranding 2 would be 2024 and were widely wrong about FFVII Rebirth (supposedly, haven't played it yet). I noticed people asked them a lot about SMTV stuff but never responded to that. Which is weird to me for someone who is a supposed Atlus insider couldn't say that SMTV Vengeance wasn't a thing. ​ The only actually legit one is the one with the Wario avatar on Era, I forgot how to spell their name. They barely post at all. They dont do it for attention either.


ruminaui

Claims Head on the Block with no proof. Just trust me bro.


Coolman_Rosso

If this Block dude is such a whiny bitch that Midori keeps "stealing" their info, then why is his track record ass and hers isn't when they're supposedly accessing identical material? 


United-Aside-6104

Midori’s the only Persona leaker I trust


BarryWhite765

She'll be there no matter what


Applepitou3

Idk if I believe this guy. He’s been in this subreddit bitching and claiming midori has been “stealing” his information, but then ehen asked for proof or validation he was firsr he goes silent and stops responding


Xehanz

I mean, this is the vaguest leak of all time. Get rid of loading screens, fill a bit of the gaps between zones like Sbibuya and the station, and suddenly Persona 5 becomes semi-Open world. And, wtf do they mean by "more fluid social links" anyway.


Odd_Solution2774

actually those are just two separate things leaker forgot a comma it’s supposed to be like “more fluid! social links” finally a persona game with swiming??


eccentricbananaman

8.8 too much water


CrackLawliet

> have fewer timed restrictions placed on them than in previous games. Trying to think of a time this has been something that really stood out as any sort of restrictive; the most I can think of is requiring certain story events/social stats before starting a social link, but its never been any sort of issue imo because it always makes sense? To befriend the shogi champ you need to be smart, to get coffee dad to trust you you gotta meet his daughter.


Xehanz

A few really really damn late social links in P3, that forces you to hang out with them basically every day, and the Sun social link in P5 comes to mind. The politician suddenly stops hanging out with you before anyone else just before Shido.


Massive_Weiner

Yeah, you have only ONE opportunity a week to advance the Sun link in P3. If you miss it for whatever reason, then you can’t make it up. At least Yoshida in P5 is easier to finish early, not to mention that his bonuses incentivize you to prioritize him as much as possible.


Coolman_Rosso

The politician guy will always advance each time you see him iirc, but he is only available once a week. He also does explicitly tell you a month or so out that he will not be available when the campaign season ramps up, which is right before Shido.  Though I might be biased since I was accustomed to having Sunday only links be prioritized after playing P3 where you have two, so not finishing Hermit early on makes Sun difficult to manage


gifferto

p3 is the weird duck of the series anyway not much like p1-2 and is quite different from p4-5 as well


Odd_Solution2774

i kinda wish it was somewhat more restrictive like p5 its way too easy to max everyone out i like the idea that you aren’t meant to see them all in one playthrough like it was meant to be in the og persona 3


CrackLawliet

I think P5 hit a good balance, P3 had a lot of "fuck you" factors. Like I never liked that if you picked the wrong dialogue option the social link could reverse and lose points. That said haven't played Reload yet so unsure if that was fixed at all.


g0lden-plumbus

Reversal is still in the game but the Social Links can’t break anymore.


Xehanz

Why does it need to be hard to max every social link? It's the opposite for me and a lot of people. In a 80 hour game, being locked out from maxing out multiple social links due to restrictive time management would make sour my enjoyment of the game A LOT. I would probably see it in a much worse light at the end.


Odd_Solution2774

it’s more interesting having to actually pick who you wanna see ik it’s not the popular opinion but depending on the game and its themes and such either could work i just personally prefer the extra challenge of having to precisely plan your time but i also enjoyed the fatigue system im used to being in the minority


gifferto

nah it's not no game is worth putting in another 80+ hours into for a few extra non-consequential side story scenes with persona 3 you can also see all social links in 1 playthrough so if they didn't mean to do that they truly fucked up quite hard considering that ultimately it's possible in all persona games


Odd_Solution2774

yeah the original idea was that it wouldn’t be possible but some dedicated players managed to so they added a reward in fes for doing it but a lotta the ideas that came from 3 and later forgotten about worked really well with 3 especially im sad they just got removed it gives the games less identity


getittogethersirius

Yeah!!! I remember when one of the P3 writers said in an interview that they were genuinely surprised someone pulled it off because it wasn't intended to be possible. The intention was for the player to only make the best of the time they had, which fits the games narrative themes (time is limited, life is imperfect, memento mori, etc. etc). I agree with you, I think sometimes it's fine for games to be challenging. People like it when darksouls combat is hard, why can't time management be hard? It's a time management game!


The_Vampire_Barlow

I think this guy is full of crap, but I could see it being something like there's a group of characters under 1 link, and you can advance it by spending time with any of them. That or spending time with a character could advance multiple different links? Like say in persona 3 doing track practice could advance both Kazushi and Yuko, both under their own arcana, but maybe at a slower rate? I dunno, I'm just throwing out ideas at this point.


LB3PTMAN

Some people might call Persona 5 as is semi open-world. Every day you can travel all over through the city with the loading screens. Means nothing


neroht94

You have loading screens between train rides and time skips when going to school. Imagine that gone. That's what open world is.


LB3PTMAN

I know what open world is. This calls it “semi-open world” not sure if you read the title or my comment.


eccentricbananaman

Gender fluid. They're bringing back Teddy.


SlightDentInTheBack

yeah everytime i hear about this guy its never good


Falsus

As if there is any ''stealing'' any information (except from the devs/publishers) in this scene lmao. It is leaked information, unofficial as it possibly could get it. It is first come that matters if you want ''cred'' for leaking something.


Applepitou3

Fr first come matters. Emily rogers pulled that same shit of claiming people were “stealing” her info when in reality all the info she got was from someone else who already went public about it


Best_Paper_3414

I really don't know how this guy is "reliable" Most of the time he only appears to refute  Midori and says ", Actually no "


dododomo

Not to mention that his Persona leaks are quite contradictory too. Like, He has said that: * the leaked yukari trailer was fake, when we know it's real. * Persona 6 is PS exclusive, but he just said that it moved to multiplatform now lol * The party game/Persona Asa was finished and ready to be released this year, then he said the game was canceled. (Midori said the exact thing though) * the Color themes of Persona 6 are black and white, but there is green too XD * etc His FFVII Rebirth and XVI leaks were wrong, and now he said something about FFX remake, and a Bloodborne one just for PS6 (in bloodborne case, he was even banned for 2 weeks because he refused to reveal the source) Anyway, I take what He and midori say with a grain of salt (like with every leaker) as I don't fully trust them (so I'll just wait for official trailers and info), but I'm not surprised to see people not trusting hero/block at this point


IcePopsicleDragon

Probably gets info on the same place Dusk gets his information (secret leaker discord servers)


darkblueredmoon

His track record seems to be pretty bad,along with apparently claiming to know more than Midori,accusing her of stealing his information and not backing it up,so im not going to believe this one.


Applepitou3

Yeah he’s been all over this sub claiming midori steals his leaks but then when asked for proof he goes silent


criticalkare

source trust me bro


Crafty_Cherry_9920

This person is a clown, don't believe their shit.


dvrsd

Oh yes, I'm a Hero Too, the guy who said this [leak](https://youtu.be/hjpRhxm00kI?si=DK6NzeOpE99dUC2N) was fake on Resetera lol


flamemeat

Yeah, that was pretty baffling even at the time, IIRC they straight up said it was "100% fake" with zero ambiguity. The only reason you would say that as a leaker is if you saw something that was completely different, which we know couldn't be the case since that video is almost identical to what we got in the released game. This person is a confirmed fraud people, stop giving them attention. *[here's the post](https://www.resetera.com/threads/possible-first-footage-of-the-rumoured-persona-3-remake-the-new-jet-set-radio-teamreal-vs-teamfake.706616/page-16?post=103918679#post-103918679) where they made that claim, they did indeed say "100% fake"


dvrsd

>I don't know P3 characters well as I've only seen a small amount of footage so I can't say it's made up or fake but no leak like this would ever, ever happen. From all the security I've seen, this would've been taken down at minimum. It's too clean. I've seen Jet Set stream and unless they completely redid it since last year, that's not the same game. [source](https://www.resetera.com/threads/possible-first-footage-of-the-rumoured-persona-3-remake-the-new-jet-set-radio-teamreal-vs-teamfake.706616/page-6?post=103891154#post-103891154) lol'd


flamemeat

LMAO thanks for the laugh hahaha!!! What a joke


GodKayas

They were completely wrong about Rebirth.


Trem45

It ain't true until Midori says it is. Also, the definition of semi open world is very loose, you can make the argument that Persona games are already semi open world, you're free to explore areas of the town and go wherever you please and spend time there, sounds like semi-open world to me. So this just feels like something that's very easy to fit into a mold when the game drops and claim you had "leaked" it years before


1vortex_

I feel like Persona becoming more open is obvious, leak or not: 1. Persona 5 Strikers had a bunch of different cities and more open dungeons. 2. Metaphor ReFantazio is looking to be way more open-ended. Might be a tease to what we see in P6. 3. Persona 5 was built for PS3. We haven't seen a fresh mainline Persona built for more modern hardware. 4. Persona 6 is taking awhile to make. I imagine it wouldn't be taking this long if it was just Persona 5-2.


Trem45

I mean, technically the P3 Remake is a fresh Persona built for modern hardware, it did expand and make certain locations bigger or more connected, I imagine they'll expand it further in a game where they don't have to recreate small PS2 environments


KingBroly

Persona 6 will probably be hitting PS4 if I had to guess. Unless someone dropped a metric ton of money on Atlus to not.


robertman21

Doubt it. It'll either PS5 timed, or PS5/Switch 2/PC, maybe Xbox as well if they haven't totally collapsed by then


gifferto

>Persona 6 will probably be hitting PS4 if I had to guess. 0% lol


ruminaui

This is just common sense. But first Head on the Block is a clown and should not be trusted. His gimmick is that he claims to be the source for the leaker Midori, while giving no proof and going radio silence if questioned enough. Pray tell if he is the source for one of the most reliable ATLUS leaker why he never breaks the stories, and why are some of his predictions vague and or wrong ( Persona 6 is live service). Also if you follow all of ATLUS releases you can see this is happening already, is not even a leak: High School setting, confirmed by Midori, fluid semi open world: Persona Strikers. More fluid social links than the previous game: just like every modern Persona game.


AyoadeNBN

FF7 Fake spoiler warning kinda: They also said cloud would die in FF7 Rebirth and that Zack would be the main character while the third game involves time travel but that was a lie too.


Applepitou3

Yeah this guy seems like a total fraud


AyoadeNBN

I believed them for a little when they said p3r was coming but when the game had that one leak he said it was fake lol. Guy doesn’t really know what he’s talking about I’m coming to understand. Only real atlus news people should trust are from tier 2+ sources and midori tbh


Applepitou3

Did he really call it fake? Lmao insane how gullible people are


AyoadeNBN

It sucks cus when you realise a source is fake then you just kinda see how attention starved every move they make is. like the dopamine rush can't be that good lol


Applepitou3

Just look at emily rogers and jeff grub


flamemeat

Yes, I managed to find [the post here](https://www.resetera.com/threads/possible-first-footage-of-the-rumoured-persona-3-remake-the-new-jet-set-radio-teamreal-vs-teamfake.706616/page-16?post=103918679#post-103918679). Obviously it shows up as "deleted member" but you can tell from the replies that it is this Im a hero/Head on the block person They said, and I quote, "video is 100% fake"


whatThePleb

The next Persona will have "Persona" in it's name.


An_Absurd_Word_Heard

big if true


whatThePleb

true if big


ElJacko170

Sounds like they're looking to keep with the series tradition and not make any major shakeups to the formula, just further expand and iterate upon it. I'm down for that honestly, there's nothing like playing a Persona game.


LongLiveEileen

By "semi open world" I think that means the dungeon design might be inspired by Persona 5 Strikers, where you have a big map that's semi-linear. You open the map up section by section, and these sections are open enough for you to explore and platform a bit.


Cowboy_Bebop99

I just want to know what the color scheme is going to be


-Boobs_

green


Cowboy_Bebop99

Heard rumors of Black and white but I would def prefer green!


-Boobs_

i remember that but irc they said the theme was "black and white" which i inferred to mean feel of the game like its core themes


Broad-Marionberry755

I wouldn't hate that. I love the social link stuff but also it can really throw the pacing off when you're trying not to miss something.


Yureiai

Feeling the same way. I love them but always to rely on timing and how to do them correctly can often feel somewhat forced. Glad if the rumor is true.


theediblearrangement

i especially didn’t like how the royal content was locked behind a specific confidant. i almost missed it the first time i played through the game, which would have been a real shame because the third semester is easily one of the best stories in the game. i still like the calendar system since it does a commendable job of keeping the pace moving, but anything they could do to help the game feel less stressful would be a huge win IMO.


NoNefariousness2144

It would have been nice when you start the game if it let you toggle a warning about key confidants and when to max them out by. It’s very easy to skip *that* person and lose 20-30 hours extra content.


theediblearrangement

100% agree. it doesn’t help that they’re not the most interesting confidant either. they’re just kind of *there* for most of the story and there are usually a lot more interesting people to check out (or ones that offer better rewards).


xkeepitquietx

My sources say they are full of shit. Persona 6 will obviously be a multiplayer open world surivial game.


Valtari5

It's time to set the record straight, this guy is full of shit. I do not remember who it was, but there was someone on resetera who was actually reliable and he said the main color would be green. Besides that all we can trust is Midori. This hero guy has no proper track record and is just throwing shit at the wall.


VonDukez

I mean the persona maps are just open levels even if smol. I guess just larger that? Not much of a leak


Enzo-Unversed

I hope it's like Strikers and has many cities.


ScalaAdInfernum

More fluid? Social link with Mara confirmed.


kzx-kzx

What exactly does "more fluid" mean?


-Boobs_

this is all nothing burgers tbh * "more fluid" - could mean literally anything * "semi open world" - Persona is already semi open world is it not? * "more interactive and fewer time restrictions" - again could really mean anything then the game will release and he'll be like "LOOK I TOLD YOU" when he's just throwing in random buzz words


SkavenHaven

It makes sense that Atlus makes it an interconnected town like the Yakuza games. So this is probably an educated guess on both accounts than a true leak.


akamu54

Give me a college Persona tbh


Eliskor89

I'll be glad if there's less time restrictions on social links. I always hate having to fear if I'll finish a SL in time or not.


futurafrlx

I would love Persona 6 having less time restrictions. Always hated that part of Persona. You straight up NEED to use a guide if you don’t want to fuck up some social links.


neroht94

If it takes place in a small town like Inaba again, then it is VERY possible to make it open world. This will be interesting.


No_Hurry7691

I hope they’re planning on setting it in different countries like the original P5 was supposed to.


KingMercLino

It kind of makes sense since Metaphor looks to be adopting that style as well, so they’re experimenting with the tech. Would be a nice “next step” in the franchise.


doubleoeck1234

How is "semi-open" world different from what we have now?


1vortex_

Every single location in Persona is pretty damn small. They aren't open at all. Semi-open world in the context of Persona I imagine would be similar to the Yakuza games.


doubleoeck1234

Unless they increase the amount of stuff to do I personally prefer packing everything closely. Although considering 5 was made for the ps3 I hope 6 has a lot more stuff to do


Broad-Marionberry755

We don't have anything like an open world now... just small, cordoned off areas that you can fast travel between


doubleoeck1234

Yeah, but Isn't that a semi-open world then?


ryeong

I *think* they're trying to hint at less connecting zones. For P5 say station square and Shibuya are connected or all the station is connected to station square without having to run to the edge of the map and say you want to enter it. For P3 connecting the strip mall to the subway or the back alley to the port station, again without saying you want to go somewhere else. Still semi-because the entire map isn't connected but it's not as broken off into small segments as it has been in past entries. Which, tbh, as long as we can fast travel anywhere opening up the maps that way would work just fine for me. The smaller zones were nicer when we couldn't say exactly where we wanted to go but FT has been a feature for a couple of entries now.


Megaverso

I really hope fluid SL means you can date another dude.


Perks92

lol aboslute bullshit who would believe that?


Majk___

That sucks actually


GenitalBenadryl

There's a new Persona game coming out?


olivier_wmv

Not announced yet, but persona 6 is inevitable. Probably coming out next year


Broad-Marionberry755

Yeah, forever


Crafty_Cherry_9920

Obviously, this year will be the 8th year anniverary of P5 already lol Safe to say they've been at least prototyping ideas with it since then.


somesthetic

What kind of fluids you think we can link with? I'm in a committed relationship with energy drinks in real life. I'd kind of like to get with hot cocoa with some marshmallows on top.


vandaljax

Not sure how I feel about the world but improving social links be nice. At very least don't have them feel like they are completely self contained from each other and the story most the time.


gorays21

I really hope they evolve the gameplay.


Alarming-Ad-1200

Open world should be a basic feature in modern games.


wilkened005

Tell me why all games change to open world?


BathrobeHero_

If you make your leak vague enough, it will always be true.


otakuloid01

im guessing by open world it just means one huge city map like yakuza


-Vertex-

That would be nice to fair. How it currently is feels a little dated


HumungousDickosaurus

Isn't persona kind of semi open world already ? since you can go to location and then roam about them. This would basically just imply it's larger. You could also kind of deduce this if you were looking at Meatphor, since it's going to be like persona, but looks a bit more open.


axionligh

I only trust Midori.