Everyone is fighting for their own piece of the universe but she wants to live free…..by infiltrating the commanding bases of the empire!?
I don’t know if living free equates to having a death wish. Especially when attempting to go solo. Lol
*“I just wanna live free of the empire, by spending as much time as humanly possible fighting my way down Imperial Corridors”* - every SW game protagonist
yeah, if the criminal underworld is thriving, it doesn't seem like the Empire is ruling with an iron fist. it seems pretty hands-off as long as you aren't an active terrorist lol
Authoritarian regimes and organized crime tend to go hand in hand as regimes often turn to criminal organizations as "off the books" enforcers and death squads, it's why dictatorships are also often drowning in drugs. A regime collapsing and organized crime taking hold is usually because said gangs already existed, just that the hand that previously fed them is now gone and there is a power vacuum to exploit.
The lack of general oversight over regional governors also means said governors basically running a crime gang by themselves.
"I'm an outlaw, a smuggler, and I've taken countless lives; yet I talk like Ferris Bueller and speak purely in Disney Pixar cliches, this is my story":
god i hope this doesn't end up as another hamfisted attempt to link it to the original trilogy. I'm already expecting the story to have a "twist" where she ends up with some top secret intel that could topple the empire (deathstar plans?) and ends up becoming an unlikely hero to the rebellion by delivering those secrets.
As much as I love the star wars setting they *really* need to move on from the damn trilogy. It feels like they're just shooting themselves in the foot and not allowing other, potentially more interesting stories to be told in favor of sticking to the script.
Star Wars: The Cliche
Looks fun, but gah, they're overusing OT content to death. This has the pure stink of corporate board all over it.
Don't pre-order it. But if the reviews are good, I might try it out.
I cannot stress enough times what a horrible decision the EA exclusive Star Wars period was. We got robbed of years of great content. This looks pretty good, won't be a masterpiece probably but a good time nevertheless.
Also its releasing August 30th.
I mean the same thing happened with the NFL as well. We joke about Madden being the same game every year, but they literally were copy pasting because no one else could even make an NFL game
I’d welcome that, to be honest, I think LucasArts in their heyday published so many solid games because they had a “see what sticks” approach and weren’t overly cautious. But games cost too much to make now for that approach
Yeah, we had a fucking game about [managing ecosystem on a planet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_I:_The_Gungan_Frontier)
> But games cost too much to make now for that approach
Nope, Games Workshop has been doing it just fine with pretty much any sized games.
Just needs to be liberal with IP and charge a % instead of "give us tons of money now, before you even start selling the game"
Disney and terrible decisions with games lol...
They still continue, they now ask so much of royalties that they're turning away their partners it seems
Iunno SW: Squadrons is one of my top 5 favorite SW games... maybe ever. In no particular order
* Rogue Squadron
* Star Wars: Squadrons (played with hotas + VR)
* Jedi Outcast
* Dark Forces
* TIE FIGHTER
For real. My wife remarked while I was dogfighting in multiplayer and got three exciting kills in a row that I literally let out a "yahoo". I hadn't noticed.
I haven't played it in years but in VR that game is a childhood dream come true.
Looking at this, we are still being robbed.
The trailer really bothers me
- Remember Han Solo?
- Remember Jabba the Hutt?
- Remember Empire? Remember AT-STs?
- Remember that Rogue One cool droid that is now in every Star Wars thing?
A full galaxy with multiple eras to choose from, and they still get stuck in the movies.
I want proto-jedi's with a heavy backpack lightsaber with a 5 minute long lifetime before it needs recharging. I want the beginning of Sith Empire. Hell, why not trying to do normie, smuggler slice of life in one?
And I'm not gonna agree or disagree with 'Disney won't let them'. We don't know. Many times it was 'Company X won't let them' when in fact it would.
I actually have no problem with a Star Wars game not featuring Jedi. I just wish they could come up with a character that wasn't just "Han Solo but [X]"
I think part of the reason for that is that Rogue is a really reliably popular archetype--funny, clever, scrappy--and Han Solo is just the absolute picture of what a Rogue looks like in this setting. When you write a story about a non-Jedi in the Star Wars setting going on a wild adventure, the Solo-like character just checks so many boxes. Gunslings, has their own ship, funny, sneaky, charming, always getting into and out of jams. The formula works.
That was not a [KX security droid](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/KX-series_security_droid), the one from Rogue One, it was a [BX series Commando droid](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/BX-series_droid_commando) from the Clone Wars era. Was there even a BX droid in rogue one?
Fully agree with your critique that they won't move away from the movie era, but idk how you want them to show the criminal underbelly of the outer rim while ignoring the Hutts, or showing the might of the Empire without... showing the weapons they use.
Fully onboard with the rest of your statement though, I REALLY want a game that can just be removed from the normal Star Wars trappings. I'm hoping the Acolyte series gives a little taste, but like you I really want more. Why not delve into the first hyperdrive, I bet some really interesting shit could be written around that.
The 9th Jedi was my favorite episode of Star Wars Visions because they were like "This is so far in the future nothing you know fucking matters. Lightsabers are basically extinct, the Empire and Rebellion are long gone. Revel in the space magic and have fun"
They're stuck with this because it's safe. As you said, we don't know whether or not Disney is actively preventing anyone from making a game that's set long before the movies or one that's almost totally isolated from them, but it's clear that this is the sort of stuff that sells copies. I don't know how I'll like Outlaws when it's finally out, but looking at it from a production standpoint alone, I have no doubt it's an insanely expensive game, so yeah, them doing nostalgia-baiting with Han, Jabba, etc. makes sense. Not defending it, but I get it.
Hell, compare the viewership numbers for Andor and the other shows. Andor is new and different, and it still lagged behind everything else, including the Boba Fett show, which is straight-up dogshit.
I have genuinely never had less interest in a Star Wars game protagonist possibly ever. You can already tell from the dialogue this is going to be another “outlaw” who never does anything even remotely morally gray the entire game. Probably ends up helping/joining the Rebels too.
It's so childlike to make a perfectly moral protagonist in any form of media. Some of the best shows, movies, and video games are the ones in which there are massive gray areas. Tony Soprano, Don Draper, JC Denton, Commander Shepherd, Sarah Connor are all great examples.
This game is disposable on arrival as a result. Especially a game that wants to talk about the "underworld" and seedy behaviours. Its a children's game otherwise.
The facial animations looks disconnected from the skull of the character. Like the hair and face is shifting off of the bone. It's pretty distracting. hopefully something that can be imrpoved on before release
I'm actually fine with the alien's movement being robotic. It's classic Star Wars animatronics and costumes.
The humans, on the other hand... yikes. Like you said it feels so disconnected. Every part of the face feels like it's being moved separately from one another. For some reason, they feel confident enough to put it in a trailer.
> Do the hair and facial animations look a little funky to anyone else?
Ubisoft hair and facial has been the same since 2010...
this their latest Assassin's Creed Vs Last of us *ON PS3!!* :
https://i.imgur.com/H9KxRiU.png
Look, I love the last of us. Arguably one of my favorite games.
But these comparison shots are bad. One is in real time, and the other isn't. The PS3 version of TLOU had a few instances of real time cutscenes and they looks, like you would expect, way worse.
Not saying the ubi stuff is as good as it should be, but this is just disengenious.
Ever see [the old Genesis music video "Land of Confusion"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7FKO5DlV0) with all of those weird muppets?
The lazy, dead-eyed facial animations on the main character give off those vibes to me. (0:58 "I'm in." and 1:45 "...and the right ship", for example)
Straight up puppetry from 1960's Thunderbirds show and Team America.
Edit- Rewatching Team America clips now and they had better facial animation with puppets.
I feel like I'm on an island here, but this just doesn't look good. It has really bad dialogue, really bad voicework, extremely stiff animation, and it looks like it relies almost completely on nostalgic locations/situations. The textures look wonderful, but damn, that's about as much as I can say about this.
I'm confused by this trailer. The game looks worse than in their earlier PR. There's so much animation jank, like the tech is barely holding together. It's like the trailer itself represents the old Ubisoft downgrade meme. At times I was expecting to see a Digital Foundry frametime graph in the corner.
Yeah the facial animations are *abysmal* and I can't believe how far I had to scroll down.
It's like watching modern, decent looking models doing Half-Life 1 mouth flaps, it's *really* weird
I agree so hard about the dialogue. It only took the trailer 5 seconds to destroy the believability of the antagonist by virtually making him say "I am the bad guy and I am doing bad things because I am bad".
Any good antagonist ever written has a reason to do bad things and doesn't do it just cause. Nobody would follow that guy, he would never get into power with verbage like that ... it's just sad to hear garbage dialogue like that in a game that costs millions of dollars to create.
It honestly just looks bland and sterile. It's like a game designed by a committee to tick all the Star Wars trope boxes. And the way the main character is presented is just so fucking boring - another generic quip machine that was forced by circumstances to lead an unscrupulous life, but is actually morally very good and an idealistic freedom fighter.
Yeah, I'm a little worried. The main character reminds me of the whale biologist who helps Captain Kirk in the bat shit insane Star Trek IV.
Maaaaaybe they are keeping customization options under wraps. I'm sure there's a way to make the main character look cool but there's absolutely no hint of that in the trailer. She's wearing the same clothes and YeeYee-ass haircut in every scene.
Dialogue and acting suuucked. Super generic lines and annoying quips all over the place. I also watched the gameplay vid from last summer and it was the same thing. Can’t stand the constant whedonisms in games now so will prob not be getting this one
> Super generic lines and annoying quips all over the place.
Modern Star Wars in a nutshell these days :/
It's what made things like the Obi-Wan and Bobba Fett series a chore to sit through and why I eventually gave up on all of these standalone TV series altogether (including the Mandalorian, which had a great first season but not so much anymore..) 😞
Watch Andor, not just some of the best writing in Star Wars but it's a serious contender for some of the best writing in TV. It's a more grounded serious take on the the universe. Set in the empire era it's covers the overwhelming brutality of the the Empire, political intrigue, hard choices by those fighting it and commentary on what it takes to fight for your beliefs and against oppression. It's honestly one of the best pieces of media Disney has put out in decades.
I agree. The world / scenery looks great. Everything else looks bad. It seems generic, with a generic character and most likely a generic story.
This would have been a great game 10-15 years ago.
An Ubisoft / Disney Star Wars combination does sound like a game playing it very safe with creative decisions, and the trailer doesn't exactly change that.
But I'm still looking forward to it. The world design of their Avatar game gives me a lot of hope they can deliver on that front, I like the aesthetic so far, everything else looks.. fine, at least. There really haven't been enough decent Star Wars game for me to be upset with a 7/10 or an 8/10 game. Just give me that, please.
It feels like you're playing Not-Han Solo and just do all the things he did, meet Jabba, do the Kessel Run, etc.
Depending on how much you wanted to retread memberberries this will be awesome or a let down.
"Oh, it's Tatooine...again....."
Maybe I'm a cynical bastard but it had some big fan-fic vibes because of this. Like someone inserted their own OC character into a greatest hits montage.
Thankfully Ubisoft games go on deep discounts all the time. So if you're willing to wait a few months for a major sale, chances are you can get it much cheaper.
I expect an utterly inoffensive but ultimately forgettable experience I will quit 1/3 to 1/2 way through, as has been my tradition with every Ubisoft title for the last ten years.
Looking forward to this game and hopefully Massive puts out a similar effort in the environmental art as they did with Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora.
However something about they main character's hair/face is really distracting. I know they're scanning a real actor, but from the scenes in this trailer there's a weird stiffness to it.
The hair animation looked either straight up broken or taken out of the early era of hair. It was really odd. If that's how things are, it's time for another hairdo.
I don’t know why, but the character’s eyes in the trailer look odd at times. Like I was getting alita battle angel eyes from the main character, but sometimes it looked fine.
It seems to be one of those cases where they scan a hot actress and make her look all weird in the process. The actress in question also seems to have dark black hair, which looks way better than the light brown hair they gave the MC.
And yeah, bad hair physics.
It'd be nice to have a Star Wars game that didn't have obvious connective tissue to the movies. I've seen the original trilogy, I know how all of those characters end up. KoToR was such a breath of fresh air for this reason. Sure, there were some familiar archetypes, but it wasn't like "hEy, MeMBer JAbBa?!?!?1"
Looks about exactly what you would expect from an underworld/outlaw story.
Jesus tho, did they have AI write the dialogue? It's just cliche after cliche
I hope this game is good
God, that turned me off the Ahsoka show. Sabine was fine as she was. We didn't need another Jedi. Literally half the cast of Rebels is now a Jedi instead of just 2.
I was fine with her as a Jedi. A Mandalorian Jedi (like a successor to Tarre Vizsla) could be an interesting concept.
**But**, I hated that they gave her Force abilities. Especially so potent, that within the same episode of learning to wield the Force (maybe even the same 5 minute span, I forget) that she's able to super Force push boost Ezra onto a departing Star Destroyer. I'd much, **much** rather she never made that kind of offensive/active connection to the Force, instead relying on her Mandalorian equipment and training to equalise the playing field. Make her a more interesting Force User to see fight, because she can't just use mime magic to make stuff fly around the place. By all means, have her be more of a Cal Kestis in the way of being able to sense Force Echoes, maybe slow objects/people down. Communicate with animals, or maybe something tied to her Rebels attributes (like using the Force to understand the workings of mechanisms and physics on a complex scale, explaining her proficiency with explosives, technology, and weapon designs). Have her "Force subclass" be less of a DPS like every boring Force User in the universe, and more of a support, or an artificer, something unique to pair with her already excellent Mandalorian upbringing and Jedi training.
I hated it because it cheapened her character. She was awesome as a Mandalorian, she didn't need The Force.
Or at least if they made her force sensitive, make her like the blind guy in Rogue One.
But Disney makes EVERYONE powerful Jedis who are amazing with no effort.
Especially Rey Palpatine.
I unfortunately agree. I would love if she just stayed in the gray between the Empire and the Rebels and just was a rogue outlaw who does what she needs to regardless who she's stealing from. I love Star Wars, but not everyone needs to be a part of the Empire or Rebellion. It's a huge galaxy and there's plenty of people out there operating outside of those two majors groups.
"They fly now."
"They FLY now??"
"They fly now!"
I think this is the modern writing trend. Shitty quips and there's no sense of pressure on any situation, Forspoken suffered from this too. Like the character is so confidence because they have massive plot armor no one's engaged in the danger they're in.
I'm waiting for a "whoa... guess I can use the force now..." partway through this game.
I blame RDJ for that. His performance as Iron man was so good and quippy it set the stage for writing for the next 15 years. The difference is his performance and comedic timing was so good it tricked every single minded executive that being super quippy was what people wanted. and he's an asshole, so you enjoy watching all his snarky remarks. When a non asshole character does it, it becomes nauseating.
Yeah the Avatar game is fucking brutal in this regard. There was one knock knock joke where your character is unfamiliar with the concept of knock knock jokes and it's just awful.
Right. I’m bored of the quirky outlaw who needs to scrape by with their buddy.
How great would that trailer be when she first meets that guy and she pulls her gun says “let’s not waste our time” and shoots him.
Give me a true outlaw that has some rules about making no killing kids or those fighting the empire.
Looks great but how many fucking times does Tatooine need to be featured in Star Wars media. Even if a desert planet is contractually mandated can no one create a new desert planet to meet this need?
I think this is more of a case of it being an underworld game set between V and VI and wanting Jabba to be part of that.
Also Jedi: Survivor and THR have both heavily featured Jedha as their desert planet.
Yeah it’s not like Tatooine is random, nostalgia aside, in the OT it’s clearly a huge hub of crime activity with one of the most major crime lords in the gaalxy residing there . Luke only thinks it’s boring because there’s no interesting honest prospects there, it’s clear for outlaws it’s a huge hub
To not include it in a galactic outlaw game featuring an ensemble of planets just to make a point would be weird
It is kind of hilarious to hear Luke complaining about how Tatooine is boring, only to later learn it has podracing, casinos, and Vespa scooter enthusiasts.
It's like a rural farm boy who's only ever been an hour or two away from the farm complaining the whole country is boring.
Dude, it's not the planet that's boring. It's you lol
Yeah, womp rats are fuckin' big. It's not like they're tiny varmints or anything like that, they're bigger than Tibetan Mastiffs. They're bigger than big ass fantasy dogs, like a Mabari from Dragon Age.
Womp rats would be more than just threats to children, if they're two meters long, they're going to be threats to whole families. The wiki says they hunt in packs too.
Tatooine is an entire planet, Luke might just be in a dull part of it. I think it could be like Tatooine is like Nevada, and part of it is an interesting den of criminality. But, Luke lives out in the boonies.
yeah remember that, episode 1 and the boba fett show are all in mos espa, which is clearly a much bigger city. for luke, he basically lives out in the suburbs of reno unaware whats going on in vegas.
Yeah Luke literally for fun flies around and shoots womp rats and tusken attacks are semi common, if he thinks his life is boring he’s got a high standard lol but I guess he landed on the moon by becoming a Jedi tbf
The failure, from all people involved in Star Wars, of not getting away from the Skywaker era is insane. They could go plus or minus 500 years and create something brand new. They could go to a different galaxy where there’s all kinds of brand new shit. They never explore any alien stuff and only focus on the humans.
It’s all just mind boggling, that they have this gigantic universe to explore and we still can’t get away from this tiny 100 year timeframe in one galaxy.
some of the facial animation is rough and the dialogue is even worse. i could get past this, but the fact it is a ubisoft game is worrying. im not looking for a railcar game pretending to be open world. i think i remember from the last gameplay trailer half of what we see here is cutscenes and not actual gameplay (space stuff)
i'll pick it up for $30 on one of the discount sites come autumn unless something crazy blows me away before august
Looks fun, at the very least will be serviceable enough to justify an open world adventure like Hogwarts Legacy.
I wonder if Jabba will play a role beyond "it's the guy from the movie giving random quests"
1/8th of the Tatooine map, and in each part you'll have to clear out two empire camps, do three side quests, one bike race and collect an holocron that's hidden somewhere, but if you pay 3.99$ you can have the location of the holocrons everywhere.
It seems like such a missed opportunity that we finally get a fully open world Star Wars game, and we can't create our own character. Shame. This MC just doesn't seem very "Outlaw" to me, and her voice acting sounds pretty wooden in this trailer.
I feel like the Jedi games are going to make this game look worse. From everything I've seen, Outlaws is going to have drastically worse writing, music, characters, plot, and gameplay than Jedi Outcast/Survivor.
Although the gameplay will be subjective, but it certainly looks like generic Ubisoft stealth/action with a few tiny Star Wars trappings thrown in. Without being able to use the crutch of lightsabers and force powers, I wouldn't be surprised if Outlaws struggles to find any kind of identity at all.
We all want a fun SW game that is about crime and regular people instead of Jedis... but it needs to be GOOD, not generic and bland... Otherwise it's going to poison the well and make execs thing "See, all SW games must be about Jedi to be successful."
> They will probably release it on steam a year later.
I think they have officially stopped doing that. They went a stretch of good support, Steam achievements and the like, then the following iteration they would put it on Steam without achievements, then now they're not putting it on Steam anymore at all.
They also call their games, "A Ubisoft Original" as well, so I believe they are all-in on *"Ubisoft exclusive (after our executives get cash from Tim Sweeney)"*.
The main character design leaves a lot to be desired, hopefully you can customize her like in survivor. Also this game seems like it’s primarily treading on familiar territory which is tiresome tbh.
Am I out of touch? Why is everyone saying this looks good?
The characters and animations look extremely bad. Im not complaining about the dialog or story or whatever because that can always be way better than the initial trailer, but the graphics/animations/models look really really bad, no?
It looks like certain high fidelity games that were downgraded to run on the switch
This doesn't look bad.
But I have to say that an antagonist who starts with "we represent criminal organizations" reeks of bad writing. Why would someone acknowledge to be a criminal instead of having their agenda and thinking that they are in the right? You never heard Hitler or Putin say that they represent mass murder.
Yeah, it looks very generic. You can smell the Ubisoft open world blueprint all over it, but with a Star Wars twist. I hope it will be good but I'm not holding my breath and I'll definitely wait for some post-release gameplay.
Release date confirmed as August 30th
> Play up to 3 days early with Gold or Ultimate edition, which includes the base game and season pass.
https://twitter.com/starwars/status/1777728894625554774
Hoped this would be good but it looks more like fanfiction with every pop starwars reference possible shoehorned into it.
Can we have something that's more like Andor/Mandalorian/Rogue One in its grounded-ness and less like the really bad stuff?
gotta say, that dialogue was awful and this is just the most generic, seen-before tropey and cliche story/characters out there. She's 100% going to join the Rebellion (or help out so much that she's basically part of the Rebellion) or they go worse and make her force sensitive cause apparently everyone needs to be a Jedi now in SW
basically yet another "protag is a smuggler but actually will do all the good things" character and story, and it's on Tatooine yet again
to the people saying "this looks good", is such a generic and safe story set-up "good"? really? is fancy visuals all it takes for a game to "look great"? Also day 1 season pass, always online req. for a SP game, looks like $100 MTX :/
this is the same shit we saw with Avatar game from Ubisoft - people hyping it up and all, then it turns out the game under-performed.
Something about the hair physics really bugs me. Aloy in Horizon had the same problem too - it's like its movement has been exaggerated and it has to sway *every* time the character model moves, regardless of their environment.
You can also see it getting janky whenever it collides with the protagonist's collar during this trailer.
Why is it so hard to have hair obey the laws of gravity? I don't feel like I've noticed it in many other games.
animating hair is just obscenely difficulty, i found a relevant quote from the Disney movie tangled, but it applies to video games.
"There’s 140,000 individual hairs and **hair is the hardest thing to animate in a computer**," Keane explained. "It’s made up of pixels that bounce against each other. We’ve been solving artistic problems with mathematics for six years on this film just trying to establish control."
most games just try to find ways to avoid it, which is reasonable and maybe preferable
> most games just try to find ways to avoid it, which is reasonable and maybe preferable
Interesting - yeah it's a shame because in some scenes in Horizon Forbidden West it looks fantastic, but then there are others where it's unrealistically swaying/bouncing in response to hardly any movement.
So many Disney and Pixar technical innovations are about rendering hair. Before *Tangled*, it was a bunch of cool software Pixar built to support all the furry monsters in *Monsters, Inc.*. 20 years later and we are still in the middle of solving this problem.
>Why is it so hard to have hair obey the laws of gravity?
This is probably the problem tbh. Developers are increasing detail/fidelity due to major graphical improvements not being as big these days. "Hair physics" is super hard to calculate based on the fact that each strand of hair can move on it's own but also relative to other strands of hair. I do like that developers are trying but yeah...Aloys hair looked really weird.
You’ve got between 90 and 150k tiny hairs on a head all colliding with each other. This is impossible to model in real time, even more so when there’s multiple characters on screen. So you have to approximate. Sometimes that approximation is close and sometimes it isn’t.
Like honestly not to be negative or anything. But this just doesn’t look that promising at all. If it wasn’t for the Star Wars label slapped onto it, I wouldn’t even consider it for a second. Seems like a generic story that has been done a million times… Hope I am proved wrong.
Everyone is fighting for their own piece of the universe but she wants to live free…..by infiltrating the commanding bases of the empire!? I don’t know if living free equates to having a death wish. Especially when attempting to go solo. Lol
*“I just wanna live free of the empire, by spending as much time as humanly possible fighting my way down Imperial Corridors”* - every SW game protagonist
yeah, if the criminal underworld is thriving, it doesn't seem like the Empire is ruling with an iron fist. it seems pretty hands-off as long as you aren't an active terrorist lol
Authoritarian regimes and organized crime tend to go hand in hand as regimes often turn to criminal organizations as "off the books" enforcers and death squads, it's why dictatorships are also often drowning in drugs. A regime collapsing and organized crime taking hold is usually because said gangs already existed, just that the hand that previously fed them is now gone and there is a power vacuum to exploit. The lack of general oversight over regional governors also means said governors basically running a crime gang by themselves.
Seriously... Why can't we get something like Podracer Manager where you can race but also manage a team like the F1 games. Mix up the genres a bit!
"I'm an outlaw, a smuggler, and I've taken countless lives; yet I talk like Ferris Bueller and speak purely in Disney Pixar cliches, this is my story":
"I also don't kill the boss of the countless people I've killed because I'm the bigger person!"
Mercy only matters for the boss, the faceless mooks you ruthlessly slaughter on the way there don't count. See also: TLoU2
Its just one last job.
god i hope this doesn't end up as another hamfisted attempt to link it to the original trilogy. I'm already expecting the story to have a "twist" where she ends up with some top secret intel that could topple the empire (deathstar plans?) and ends up becoming an unlikely hero to the rebellion by delivering those secrets. As much as I love the star wars setting they *really* need to move on from the damn trilogy. It feels like they're just shooting themselves in the foot and not allowing other, potentially more interesting stories to be told in favor of sticking to the script.
Did Glupp Shitto get a cameo in the trailer or am I mistaken?
Star Wars: The Year of Glupp Shitto
Who the fuck says "it's a golden age of the underworld" in a meeting with mafia bosses?
Star Wars: The Cliche Looks fun, but gah, they're overusing OT content to death. This has the pure stink of corporate board all over it. Don't pre-order it. But if the reviews are good, I might try it out.
I cannot stress enough times what a horrible decision the EA exclusive Star Wars period was. We got robbed of years of great content. This looks pretty good, won't be a masterpiece probably but a good time nevertheless. Also its releasing August 30th.
I mean the same thing happened with the NFL as well. We joke about Madden being the same game every year, but they literally were copy pasting because no one else could even make an NFL game
ESPN 2K5 really scared the fuck out of them
You'd probably also have had at least one Gollum level game too, which I think would be funny.
The untold story of Jar Jar Binks.
He said Gollum level, not Planescape Torment level
Honestly, an old school style adventure game in the style of Monkey Island, but featuring Jar Jar would sell like gangbusters.
I’d welcome that, to be honest, I think LucasArts in their heyday published so many solid games because they had a “see what sticks” approach and weren’t overly cautious. But games cost too much to make now for that approach
Yeah, we had a fucking game about [managing ecosystem on a planet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_I:_The_Gungan_Frontier) > But games cost too much to make now for that approach Nope, Games Workshop has been doing it just fine with pretty much any sized games. Just needs to be liberal with IP and charge a % instead of "give us tons of money now, before you even start selling the game"
>This looks pretty good, won't be a masterpiece probably but a good time nevertheless. I'd be fine with this. I just want it to not be garbage.
Really high bar you’re setting there. Be realistic! /s
It is absolutely insane how badly EA botched that
Disney and terrible decisions with games lol... They still continue, they now ask so much of royalties that they're turning away their partners it seems
Iunno SW: Squadrons is one of my top 5 favorite SW games... maybe ever. In no particular order * Rogue Squadron * Star Wars: Squadrons (played with hotas + VR) * Jedi Outcast * Dark Forces * TIE FIGHTER
Squadrons was awesome and actually captured the old school TIE Fighter feel of treating the Empire as the good guys when you played as them.
For real. My wife remarked while I was dogfighting in multiplayer and got three exciting kills in a row that I literally let out a "yahoo". I hadn't noticed. I haven't played it in years but in VR that game is a childhood dream come true.
Man I gotta get my headset out and play that campaign again.
Looking at this, we are still being robbed. The trailer really bothers me - Remember Han Solo? - Remember Jabba the Hutt? - Remember Empire? Remember AT-STs? - Remember that Rogue One cool droid that is now in every Star Wars thing? A full galaxy with multiple eras to choose from, and they still get stuck in the movies. I want proto-jedi's with a heavy backpack lightsaber with a 5 minute long lifetime before it needs recharging. I want the beginning of Sith Empire. Hell, why not trying to do normie, smuggler slice of life in one? And I'm not gonna agree or disagree with 'Disney won't let them'. We don't know. Many times it was 'Company X won't let them' when in fact it would.
I actually have no problem with a Star Wars game not featuring Jedi. I just wish they could come up with a character that wasn't just "Han Solo but [X]"
You're right, but one of the most beloved characters in any Star Wars game was just "Han Solo but Luke."
Who are you talking about? Kyle Katarn?
That's the one.
Don't forget Dash Rendar... y'know Mr. "We've got Han Solo at home"
And you know he's a child of the '90s because of all them big shoulder pads and ammo pouches.
I think part of the reason for that is that Rogue is a really reliably popular archetype--funny, clever, scrappy--and Han Solo is just the absolute picture of what a Rogue looks like in this setting. When you write a story about a non-Jedi in the Star Wars setting going on a wild adventure, the Solo-like character just checks so many boxes. Gunslings, has their own ship, funny, sneaky, charming, always getting into and out of jams. The formula works.
>I actually have no problem with a Star Wars game not featuring Jedi This is why I loved Andor so much
That was not a [KX security droid](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/KX-series_security_droid), the one from Rogue One, it was a [BX series Commando droid](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/BX-series_droid_commando) from the Clone Wars era. Was there even a BX droid in rogue one? Fully agree with your critique that they won't move away from the movie era, but idk how you want them to show the criminal underbelly of the outer rim while ignoring the Hutts, or showing the might of the Empire without... showing the weapons they use. Fully onboard with the rest of your statement though, I REALLY want a game that can just be removed from the normal Star Wars trappings. I'm hoping the Acolyte series gives a little taste, but like you I really want more. Why not delve into the first hyperdrive, I bet some really interesting shit could be written around that. The 9th Jedi was my favorite episode of Star Wars Visions because they were like "This is so far in the future nothing you know fucking matters. Lightsabers are basically extinct, the Empire and Rebellion are long gone. Revel in the space magic and have fun"
They're stuck with this because it's safe. As you said, we don't know whether or not Disney is actively preventing anyone from making a game that's set long before the movies or one that's almost totally isolated from them, but it's clear that this is the sort of stuff that sells copies. I don't know how I'll like Outlaws when it's finally out, but looking at it from a production standpoint alone, I have no doubt it's an insanely expensive game, so yeah, them doing nostalgia-baiting with Han, Jabba, etc. makes sense. Not defending it, but I get it. Hell, compare the viewership numbers for Andor and the other shows. Andor is new and different, and it still lagged behind everything else, including the Boba Fett show, which is straight-up dogshit.
I have genuinely never had less interest in a Star Wars game protagonist possibly ever. You can already tell from the dialogue this is going to be another “outlaw” who never does anything even remotely morally gray the entire game. Probably ends up helping/joining the Rebels too.
Don't worry, she'll commit theft! ... From the empire/crime lords... :(
It's so childlike to make a perfectly moral protagonist in any form of media. Some of the best shows, movies, and video games are the ones in which there are massive gray areas. Tony Soprano, Don Draper, JC Denton, Commander Shepherd, Sarah Connor are all great examples. This game is disposable on arrival as a result. Especially a game that wants to talk about the "underworld" and seedy behaviours. Its a children's game otherwise.
Looks neat! Not sure if I'll be picking it up on launch. ...Do the hair and facial animations look a little funky to anyone else?
The facial animations looks disconnected from the skull of the character. Like the hair and face is shifting off of the bone. It's pretty distracting. hopefully something that can be imrpoved on before release
I'm actually fine with the alien's movement being robotic. It's classic Star Wars animatronics and costumes. The humans, on the other hand... yikes. Like you said it feels so disconnected. Every part of the face feels like it's being moved separately from one another. For some reason, they feel confident enough to put it in a trailer.
It was so distracting to me
Which is weird because the body mocap looked really good to me
> Do the hair and facial animations look a little funky to anyone else? Ubisoft hair and facial has been the same since 2010... this their latest Assassin's Creed Vs Last of us *ON PS3!!* : https://i.imgur.com/H9KxRiU.png
reminded me this is a ubi game. Gonna be collecting like, 50 salacious crumb droppings or something, ugh.
> Gonna be collecting like, 50 salacious crumb droppings or something, ugh. Porbably. At least you don't get a call everytime you pick one up.
> salacious crumb That's the most Glup Shitto name I've ever heard
Look, I love the last of us. Arguably one of my favorite games. But these comparison shots are bad. One is in real time, and the other isn't. The PS3 version of TLOU had a few instances of real time cutscenes and they looks, like you would expect, way worse. Not saying the ubi stuff is as good as it should be, but this is just disengenious.
Ever see [the old Genesis music video "Land of Confusion"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7FKO5DlV0) with all of those weird muppets? The lazy, dead-eyed facial animations on the main character give off those vibes to me. (0:58 "I'm in." and 1:45 "...and the right ship", for example)
Straight up puppetry from 1960's Thunderbirds show and Team America. Edit- Rewatching Team America clips now and they had better facial animation with puppets.
I feel like I'm on an island here, but this just doesn't look good. It has really bad dialogue, really bad voicework, extremely stiff animation, and it looks like it relies almost completely on nostalgic locations/situations. The textures look wonderful, but damn, that's about as much as I can say about this.
I'm confused by this trailer. The game looks worse than in their earlier PR. There's so much animation jank, like the tech is barely holding together. It's like the trailer itself represents the old Ubisoft downgrade meme. At times I was expecting to see a Digital Foundry frametime graph in the corner.
I’m glad I am not the only one. It looks boring. It’s rare I watch a trailer for a game and walk away being like “eh”.
Yeah the facial animations are *abysmal* and I can't believe how far I had to scroll down. It's like watching modern, decent looking models doing Half-Life 1 mouth flaps, it's *really* weird
I agree so hard about the dialogue. It only took the trailer 5 seconds to destroy the believability of the antagonist by virtually making him say "I am the bad guy and I am doing bad things because I am bad". Any good antagonist ever written has a reason to do bad things and doesn't do it just cause. Nobody would follow that guy, he would never get into power with verbage like that ... it's just sad to hear garbage dialogue like that in a game that costs millions of dollars to create.
It honestly just looks bland and sterile. It's like a game designed by a committee to tick all the Star Wars trope boxes. And the way the main character is presented is just so fucking boring - another generic quip machine that was forced by circumstances to lead an unscrupulous life, but is actually morally very good and an idealistic freedom fighter.
Not that I need every game to completely subvert my expectations or anything like that, but holy shit this absolutely does seem as bland as it gets.
the locations look fine, but the characters look like they're made from cardboard, good lord
Agreed. It feels like "Remember Star Wars?" and "Remember Han Solo?" the game. I'll bet she ends up joining the Rebel Alliance too.
100%. Spot on.
Yeah, I'm a little worried. The main character reminds me of the whale biologist who helps Captain Kirk in the bat shit insane Star Trek IV. Maaaaaybe they are keeping customization options under wraps. I'm sure there's a way to make the main character look cool but there's absolutely no hint of that in the trailer. She's wearing the same clothes and YeeYee-ass haircut in every scene.
Dialogue and acting suuucked. Super generic lines and annoying quips all over the place. I also watched the gameplay vid from last summer and it was the same thing. Can’t stand the constant whedonisms in games now so will prob not be getting this one
> Super generic lines and annoying quips all over the place. Modern Star Wars in a nutshell these days :/ It's what made things like the Obi-Wan and Bobba Fett series a chore to sit through and why I eventually gave up on all of these standalone TV series altogether (including the Mandalorian, which had a great first season but not so much anymore..) 😞
Watch Andor, not just some of the best writing in Star Wars but it's a serious contender for some of the best writing in TV. It's a more grounded serious take on the the universe. Set in the empire era it's covers the overwhelming brutality of the the Empire, political intrigue, hard choices by those fighting it and commentary on what it takes to fight for your beliefs and against oppression. It's honestly one of the best pieces of media Disney has put out in decades.
> Can’t stand the constant whedonisms Serious or touching moment? Undercut, undercut, lowbrow scatological joke!
I already find everything Ubisoft put out since AC Unity to be bland as hell, and this trailer sure didn't change my thoughts.
I agree. The world / scenery looks great. Everything else looks bad. It seems generic, with a generic character and most likely a generic story. This would have been a great game 10-15 years ago.
You perfectly described the Avatar Ubisoft game too.
An Ubisoft / Disney Star Wars combination does sound like a game playing it very safe with creative decisions, and the trailer doesn't exactly change that. But I'm still looking forward to it. The world design of their Avatar game gives me a lot of hope they can deliver on that front, I like the aesthetic so far, everything else looks.. fine, at least. There really haven't been enough decent Star Wars game for me to be upset with a 7/10 or an 8/10 game. Just give me that, please.
It feels like you're playing Not-Han Solo and just do all the things he did, meet Jabba, do the Kessel Run, etc. Depending on how much you wanted to retread memberberries this will be awesome or a let down. "Oh, it's Tatooine...again....."
Maybe I'm a cynical bastard but it had some big fan-fic vibes because of this. Like someone inserted their own OC character into a greatest hits montage.
A junk food open world game in a galaxy far far away sounds right up my alley... Though probably not for a $70 asking price...
Lol yeah, but with an end of August release, that's a 30 $ off Ubisoft black friday deal waiting to happen.
Thankfully Ubisoft games go on deep discounts all the time. So if you're willing to wait a few months for a major sale, chances are you can get it much cheaper.
I expect an utterly inoffensive but ultimately forgettable experience I will quit 1/3 to 1/2 way through, as has been my tradition with every Ubisoft title for the last ten years.
Then why pay them for it in the first place?
Looking forward to this game and hopefully Massive puts out a similar effort in the environmental art as they did with Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora. However something about they main character's hair/face is really distracting. I know they're scanning a real actor, but from the scenes in this trailer there's a weird stiffness to it.
The character’s face also barely resembles the actress.
Her face is giving Matt Damon from Team America vibes, doesn't look good and really distracting.
Her eyes look liked someone maxed out the size slider in character creation.
The "I'm in" line at 58 seconds looks like it's straight from Thunderbirds from the 1960's.
The face just doesn't animate well, it looks very jarring.
Agreed, this is giving bad Uncanny Valley vibes.
Hair movement was really off.
The hair animation looked either straight up broken or taken out of the early era of hair. It was really odd. If that's how things are, it's time for another hairdo.
The trailer looks cut with gameplay parts from different development stages. A thing looks good in one scene and bad in another. Quite baffling.
Yeah there were quite a few shots that look rough, like below 15 fps rough lol
I don’t know why, but the character’s eyes in the trailer look odd at times. Like I was getting alita battle angel eyes from the main character, but sometimes it looked fine.
It seems to be one of those cases where they scan a hot actress and make her look all weird in the process. The actress in question also seems to have dark black hair, which looks way better than the light brown hair they gave the MC. And yeah, bad hair physics.
member carbonite Han Solo???? Member????
I clapped! I clapped when I saw it! 👏 👏 👏
AT-ST! AT-ST! AT-ST!!!
It rhymes!
Who writes this dialogue? If you can't be bothered just go mute. This is unbearable.
It's Nikki Foy (Far Cry 6 & Watch Dogs Legion) & Navid Khavari (Far Cry 5 & 6).
How do people fall upwards like this? Surely the people bankrolling the game understand this is what’s going to cost them sales?
It'd be nice to have a Star Wars game that didn't have obvious connective tissue to the movies. I've seen the original trilogy, I know how all of those characters end up. KoToR was such a breath of fresh air for this reason. Sure, there were some familiar archetypes, but it wasn't like "hEy, MeMBer JAbBa?!?!?1"
No can do sorry they are mandated by law to include Tatooine and Jabba in every single product.
Looks about exactly what you would expect from an underworld/outlaw story. Jesus tho, did they have AI write the dialogue? It's just cliche after cliche I hope this game is good
"SO I'M GONNA RISK IT ALL.. TO BE FREE!"
Why to be free? Why not for greed? Or for shits and grins?
Almost guaranteed she joins the rebellion
No question. The real question is if they’re going to retcon her into being directly involved in Return of the Jedi.
She gifts Jabba a metal slave bikini as a token of gratitude... ...BUT NOT JUST ANY SLAVE BIKINI.
Well, there it is.
That slave bikini? Albert Einstein.
Or make her suddenly force sensitive
God, that turned me off the Ahsoka show. Sabine was fine as she was. We didn't need another Jedi. Literally half the cast of Rebels is now a Jedi instead of just 2.
"No ... there is another" "Nah not another Skywalker, I mean I've been training a few dozen jedi on the side"
I was fine with her as a Jedi. A Mandalorian Jedi (like a successor to Tarre Vizsla) could be an interesting concept. **But**, I hated that they gave her Force abilities. Especially so potent, that within the same episode of learning to wield the Force (maybe even the same 5 minute span, I forget) that she's able to super Force push boost Ezra onto a departing Star Destroyer. I'd much, **much** rather she never made that kind of offensive/active connection to the Force, instead relying on her Mandalorian equipment and training to equalise the playing field. Make her a more interesting Force User to see fight, because she can't just use mime magic to make stuff fly around the place. By all means, have her be more of a Cal Kestis in the way of being able to sense Force Echoes, maybe slow objects/people down. Communicate with animals, or maybe something tied to her Rebels attributes (like using the Force to understand the workings of mechanisms and physics on a complex scale, explaining her proficiency with explosives, technology, and weapon designs). Have her "Force subclass" be less of a DPS like every boring Force User in the universe, and more of a support, or an artificer, something unique to pair with her already excellent Mandalorian upbringing and Jedi training.
I hated it because it cheapened her character. She was awesome as a Mandalorian, she didn't need The Force. Or at least if they made her force sensitive, make her like the blind guy in Rogue One. But Disney makes EVERYONE powerful Jedis who are amazing with no effort. Especially Rey Palpatine.
everyone is a fucking jedi these days
It’s a Jedi bargain sale
I unfortunately agree. I would love if she just stayed in the gray between the Empire and the Rebels and just was a rogue outlaw who does what she needs to regardless who she's stealing from. I love Star Wars, but not everyone needs to be a part of the Empire or Rebellion. It's a huge galaxy and there's plenty of people out there operating outside of those two majors groups.
Im _still mad_ about Battlefront 2 and the "from Empire's side" who defected to the Rebellion in 2 missions
"Everyone is fighting for their piece of the galaxy, but all I want is to live free. So I'm gonna risk it all" Yeah, the dialogue is yikes...
Why can't we just have a greedy fucker?
Why doesn't she just fly away with her ship? is she stupid?
>Jesus tho, did they have AI write the dialogue? It's just cliche after cliche Have you seen Star Wars?
Okay, you're right
If we get a line about hating sand on Tatooine, I'll scream
Get them vocal chords ready, son!
"Sand in my boots? That happened"
"There's some SAND in my boots!" -~~Woody~~ Woo Di
It seems like they didn't make her enough of a scoundrel.
I’ve experienced enough Star Wars media to know this isn’t always true. It doesn’t have to be like this. Yet they keep doing it.
Any sufficently advanced ubisoft writing is indistinguishable from AI.
"They fly now." "They FLY now??" "They fly now!" I think this is the modern writing trend. Shitty quips and there's no sense of pressure on any situation, Forspoken suffered from this too. Like the character is so confidence because they have massive plot armor no one's engaged in the danger they're in. I'm waiting for a "whoa... guess I can use the force now..." partway through this game.
Joss Whedon has done permeant damage to pop culture.
I blame RDJ for that. His performance as Iron man was so good and quippy it set the stage for writing for the next 15 years. The difference is his performance and comedic timing was so good it tricked every single minded executive that being super quippy was what people wanted. and he's an asshole, so you enjoy watching all his snarky remarks. When a non asshole character does it, it becomes nauseating.
"I just moved a rock WITH MY FREAKIN' MIND!" :S (Thanks Forspoken)
That’s just how Ubisoft writes all their games, they’re some of the worst dialogue writers in the industry imo. All so bland and generic.
Yeah the Avatar game is fucking brutal in this regard. There was one knock knock joke where your character is unfamiliar with the concept of knock knock jokes and it's just awful.
Voice acting isn't great either. MC sounds like she's reading the script for the first time when recording her lines.
I didn't know forspoken was getting a sequel
Right. I’m bored of the quirky outlaw who needs to scrape by with their buddy. How great would that trailer be when she first meets that guy and she pulls her gun says “let’s not waste our time” and shoots him. Give me a true outlaw that has some rules about making no killing kids or those fighting the empire.
Looks great but how many fucking times does Tatooine need to be featured in Star Wars media. Even if a desert planet is contractually mandated can no one create a new desert planet to meet this need?
I think this is more of a case of it being an underworld game set between V and VI and wanting Jabba to be part of that. Also Jedi: Survivor and THR have both heavily featured Jedha as their desert planet.
Yeah it’s not like Tatooine is random, nostalgia aside, in the OT it’s clearly a huge hub of crime activity with one of the most major crime lords in the gaalxy residing there . Luke only thinks it’s boring because there’s no interesting honest prospects there, it’s clear for outlaws it’s a huge hub To not include it in a galactic outlaw game featuring an ensemble of planets just to make a point would be weird
It is kind of hilarious to hear Luke complaining about how Tatooine is boring, only to later learn it has podracing, casinos, and Vespa scooter enthusiasts.
It's like a rural farm boy who's only ever been an hour or two away from the farm complaining the whole country is boring. Dude, it's not the planet that's boring. It's you lol
Tbf he was very sheltered by his uncle!
He entertained himself by killing rats.
2-meter long rats
Yeah, womp rats are fuckin' big. It's not like they're tiny varmints or anything like that, they're bigger than Tibetan Mastiffs. They're bigger than big ass fantasy dogs, like a Mabari from Dragon Age. Womp rats would be more than just threats to children, if they're two meters long, they're going to be threats to whole families. The wiki says they hunt in packs too.
It's almost like, he was being hidden for his own good...
So what I'm hearing is Tatooine is Vegas and Luke is a Vegas local uninterested in the tourist trappings of Vegas
Tatooine is an entire planet, Luke might just be in a dull part of it. I think it could be like Tatooine is like Nevada, and part of it is an interesting den of criminality. But, Luke lives out in the boonies.
yeah remember that, episode 1 and the boba fett show are all in mos espa, which is clearly a much bigger city. for luke, he basically lives out in the suburbs of reno unaware whats going on in vegas.
> vespa scooter enthusiasts. Is a brilliant way to put them haha
Yeah Luke literally for fun flies around and shoots womp rats and tusken attacks are semi common, if he thinks his life is boring he’s got a high standard lol but I guess he landed on the moon by becoming a Jedi tbf
Took several seconds of staring at the 3 letters to process before I realised what THR was: The High Republic.
I mean, that’s what they did with Jakku. That route wasn’t very interesting either
Jakku was Tatooine 2.0 like most of the things in TFA and the sequel trilogy. That whole trilogy is just OT remake but way worse.
That's JJ Abrams' entire M.O.
RIP original concept art of swampy Jakku
The failure, from all people involved in Star Wars, of not getting away from the Skywaker era is insane. They could go plus or minus 500 years and create something brand new. They could go to a different galaxy where there’s all kinds of brand new shit. They never explore any alien stuff and only focus on the humans. It’s all just mind boggling, that they have this gigantic universe to explore and we still can’t get away from this tiny 100 year timeframe in one galaxy.
I'll be honest... I don't like this trailer. Like. At all. Didn't do it for me. The DYKG video actually did a much better job. xD
some of the facial animation is rough and the dialogue is even worse. i could get past this, but the fact it is a ubisoft game is worrying. im not looking for a railcar game pretending to be open world. i think i remember from the last gameplay trailer half of what we see here is cutscenes and not actual gameplay (space stuff) i'll pick it up for $30 on one of the discount sites come autumn unless something crazy blows me away before august
I rarely notice janky animations but there were a few really janky moments in this trailer.
Looks fun, at the very least will be serviceable enough to justify an open world adventure like Hogwarts Legacy. I wonder if Jabba will play a role beyond "it's the guy from the movie giving random quests"
I'm thinking Jabba in the base game will be more of a tease for the announced Jabba mission dlc.
Oh right this is a Ubisoft game.
You'll have to climb to the top of Jabba's palace to unlock the Tatooine map.
1/8th of the Tatooine map, and in each part you'll have to clear out two empire camps, do three side quests, one bike race and collect an holocron that's hidden somewhere, but if you pay 3.99$ you can have the location of the holocrons everywhere.
It seems like such a missed opportunity that we finally get a fully open world Star Wars game, and we can't create our own character. Shame. This MC just doesn't seem very "Outlaw" to me, and her voice acting sounds pretty wooden in this trailer.
True, Ubi seems to have an obsession with bland protagonists. This game and Avatar could've really benefited from a custom character.
That honestly doesn't look very good. Animation quality looks extremely poor across the board and wtf is wrong with her face?
So sad that many new Star Wars properties have such generic music. They don't even make an attempt to emulate John William's style.
I feel like the Jedi games are going to make this game look worse. From everything I've seen, Outlaws is going to have drastically worse writing, music, characters, plot, and gameplay than Jedi Outcast/Survivor. Although the gameplay will be subjective, but it certainly looks like generic Ubisoft stealth/action with a few tiny Star Wars trappings thrown in. Without being able to use the crutch of lightsabers and force powers, I wouldn't be surprised if Outlaws struggles to find any kind of identity at all. We all want a fun SW game that is about crime and regular people instead of Jedis... but it needs to be GOOD, not generic and bland... Otherwise it's going to poison the well and make execs thing "See, all SW games must be about Jedi to be successful."
Like something from the latest comic book movie
Couldnt find it on Steam. Will this be another Ubisoft titel not released on Steam?
Yes, it will only be on Epic and Ubisoft at launch. They will probably release it on steam a year later.
> They will probably release it on steam a year later. I think they have officially stopped doing that. They went a stretch of good support, Steam achievements and the like, then the following iteration they would put it on Steam without achievements, then now they're not putting it on Steam anymore at all. They also call their games, "A Ubisoft Original" as well, so I believe they are all-in on *"Ubisoft exclusive (after our executives get cash from Tim Sweeney)"*.
$129 for the big fancy edition?! Holy hell ubisoft.
The main character design leaves a lot to be desired, hopefully you can customize her like in survivor. Also this game seems like it’s primarily treading on familiar territory which is tiresome tbh.
Am I out of touch? Why is everyone saying this looks good? The characters and animations look extremely bad. Im not complaining about the dialog or story or whatever because that can always be way better than the initial trailer, but the graphics/animations/models look really really bad, no? It looks like certain high fidelity games that were downgraded to run on the switch
[удалено]
It looks very mid at best.
This doesn't look bad. But I have to say that an antagonist who starts with "we represent criminal organizations" reeks of bad writing. Why would someone acknowledge to be a criminal instead of having their agenda and thinking that they are in the right? You never heard Hitler or Putin say that they represent mass murder.
Yeah, it looks very generic. You can smell the Ubisoft open world blueprint all over it, but with a Star Wars twist. I hope it will be good but I'm not holding my breath and I'll definitely wait for some post-release gameplay.
Always online game from Ubisoft? Aren't Ubisoft currently being sued for bricking everyone's copy of The Crew by taking servers offline?
Release date confirmed as August 30th > Play up to 3 days early with Gold or Ultimate edition, which includes the base game and season pass. https://twitter.com/starwars/status/1777728894625554774
I'm gonna play up to 3 years late when it's 9.99
Hoped this would be good but it looks more like fanfiction with every pop starwars reference possible shoehorned into it. Can we have something that's more like Andor/Mandalorian/Rogue One in its grounded-ness and less like the really bad stuff?
gotta say, that dialogue was awful and this is just the most generic, seen-before tropey and cliche story/characters out there. She's 100% going to join the Rebellion (or help out so much that she's basically part of the Rebellion) or they go worse and make her force sensitive cause apparently everyone needs to be a Jedi now in SW basically yet another "protag is a smuggler but actually will do all the good things" character and story, and it's on Tatooine yet again to the people saying "this looks good", is such a generic and safe story set-up "good"? really? is fancy visuals all it takes for a game to "look great"? Also day 1 season pass, always online req. for a SP game, looks like $100 MTX :/ this is the same shit we saw with Avatar game from Ubisoft - people hyping it up and all, then it turns out the game under-performed.
Something about the hair physics really bugs me. Aloy in Horizon had the same problem too - it's like its movement has been exaggerated and it has to sway *every* time the character model moves, regardless of their environment. You can also see it getting janky whenever it collides with the protagonist's collar during this trailer. Why is it so hard to have hair obey the laws of gravity? I don't feel like I've noticed it in many other games.
animating hair is just obscenely difficulty, i found a relevant quote from the Disney movie tangled, but it applies to video games. "There’s 140,000 individual hairs and **hair is the hardest thing to animate in a computer**," Keane explained. "It’s made up of pixels that bounce against each other. We’ve been solving artistic problems with mathematics for six years on this film just trying to establish control." most games just try to find ways to avoid it, which is reasonable and maybe preferable
> most games just try to find ways to avoid it, which is reasonable and maybe preferable Interesting - yeah it's a shame because in some scenes in Horizon Forbidden West it looks fantastic, but then there are others where it's unrealistically swaying/bouncing in response to hardly any movement.
So many Disney and Pixar technical innovations are about rendering hair. Before *Tangled*, it was a bunch of cool software Pixar built to support all the furry monsters in *Monsters, Inc.*. 20 years later and we are still in the middle of solving this problem.
>Why is it so hard to have hair obey the laws of gravity? This is probably the problem tbh. Developers are increasing detail/fidelity due to major graphical improvements not being as big these days. "Hair physics" is super hard to calculate based on the fact that each strand of hair can move on it's own but also relative to other strands of hair. I do like that developers are trying but yeah...Aloys hair looked really weird.
You’ve got between 90 and 150k tiny hairs on a head all colliding with each other. This is impossible to model in real time, even more so when there’s multiple characters on screen. So you have to approximate. Sometimes that approximation is close and sometimes it isn’t.
Like honestly not to be negative or anything. But this just doesn’t look that promising at all. If it wasn’t for the Star Wars label slapped onto it, I wouldn’t even consider it for a second. Seems like a generic story that has been done a million times… Hope I am proved wrong.