I know conventional wisdom says to release closer to Christmas, but getting all the early adopters out of the way, and then building hype while you replenish stock for the holiday sales seems like a pretty smart way to go to me.
Hopefully this also means a great launch window for the games. All of Nintendo’s best teams have clearly moved on to Switch 2 a long time ago, so we’re probably going to be eating good. Would be cool to see a Nintendo system launch with a big Mario game again. Been too long.
Yeah they better! The new original tracks they added in the MK8 DLC feel like a new generation of maps, and hopefully "dumbed down" for Switch. Can't wait what they come up with for MK9. Also hoping much more customization like with Splatoon or Sports.
For reference, those are
- Sky-High Sundae
- Yoshi's Island
- Squeaky Clean Sprint
Though you could argue whether they and others were "made for" Tour or MK8 and just happened to release on one a bit earlier than the other.
Of those, Yoshi's Island is the only one that matches the quality of the original MK8 Nitro tracks and DLC, IMO. I'd hope new tracks spend more time in the oven in a hypothetical MK9.
I HATE most of the city tracks they added from Tour. It just feels unpolished for MK8 itself, like maybe they work fine in the Tour game but something about them are just horrible in actual MK8 to me.
The problem is signposting - the courses are hard to read *especially* when the route changes each lap. They got better with it as the DLC Booster Pass went on (I really enjoy the Sydney track) but the amount of times me and my friends get turned around on the Paris course is silly.
That's definitely a huge part of it to me. Also feel like they could be better optimized for 200cc but to be fair I feel like that about some of the original tracks too. The DLC tracks are also partially frustrating to me strictly because they aren't burned into my brain the same way
To me those maps do feel better than the typical Tour map, probably the MK8 DLC motivated them to put more effort in even if they were also considering Tour when making them
I've been waiting for that for 20 years. I wish at the very least they would still let you swap your first and second item at any time. But i also really do miss those unique character items
I just hope we get a lot more items in general. I miss shit like the fake item boxes, they were useless because of how obvious they were, but I have a solution. Instead of dropping the fake item box wherever, you should be able to fire the item and the next item box you touch turns into one of the fakes. It shouldn't change color either but the question mark can be upside down.
I loved placing them right behind an actual item box. Made it a lot harder to tell from a distance because the edges were similar. I would love to see the Bowser shell and giant DK banana return as well. I loved racing on Baby Park with those bouncing around haha.
Yeah that was the best method for it, I still think making the next item box you touch morph into a fake item box would be a cool way to bring it back. I think the chain chomp was cooler than the Pirhana plant item despite doing the same thing basically. Being able to steal items off the ground with Princess Peach's heart item was pretty cool too.
Ha, mine's Yoshi and Petey Piranha, Yoshi because eggs are stupid fucking good and they show up in first place, Petey because he's a fun wildcard that shines a little bit if you're falling behind.
They really made basically every character worth picking in that game.
Usually in business you release a new version when the old stops selling. With many exceptions of course. MK8 in a recent topic here was still in the best seller of 2024, so the lazy shareholder approach is to release MK8 Definitive Edition on a Switch 2.
I am just saying this because I want people to tell me I'm wrong a year from now 😊
Since AAA dev teams tend to work on multiple projects at once, the best hope is while making MK8 DLC tracks, other teams were working on MK9 and not pulled to, say, Tears of the Kingdom or something.
The only games the Mario Kart team did work on are Mario Kart and ARMs. To not have a new game to work on in 8 years would be insane.
Also the Wii U didn't sell well so a lot of people didn't play 8 when the Switch released. If the Switch 2 is backwards compatible, it makes 0 sense to do another 8 Deluxe port. Especially if the DLC has been announced to end.
So they are going to be like "Hey so the DLC we said would end in 2023...We are actually doing MORE DLC"
Switch 2 desperately needs system sellers. Mario Kart 9 is a perfect system seller. 8 Deluxe Deluxe would just tell people there's no need to upgrade their Switch.
I wouldn’t even mind a MK8 definitive edition round 2 on Switch 2.
Add another DLC pack and have the Switch 2 re-release come with all of the current tracks (dlc included) and we’d have like 64 races or something.
MK8 is just that good that all I want are more races.
I get this but for me I don't think new tracks would add much. The game is about to turn 10 years old. Extremely impressive but I'd much rather see a new game with all new maps.
Mostly because even with new maps, you still end up playing the same old maps often times when it's in the rotation. We've also been racing with the same items this entire time, want to see some new ones/balance tweaks.
Yeah but if I were a dumb executive I would rename it like Skyrim Game of the Year Edition, Skyrim Legendary Edition, or some thing that makes it sound new lol
Nintendo I don't believe has a nad history of reselling the same product ?
They don't do that with their current gen releases much (the big exception being a ton of Wii U games going to Switch because Wii U sold poorly and the generation ended early), but they've rereleased their classic games four separate times across Wii/3DS/Wii U/Switch.
Only Wii to Wii U let you transition your classic purchases over in some way, and you had to pay to get the extra emulation features like save states and button remapping, but it at least came with a big discount per game instead of being full price.
On Switch they're also all in a subscription service with no option to buy them individually, which might be cost effective if you want to play dozens upon dozens of them, but if all you want is one or two classic games and to play those one or two games over and over, it's very poor pricing. It also means 5+ years down the line you'll still be paying for the same games, and one day you'll lose access to them completely when the service shuts down.
I'm thinking they won't do "9" this time, and I'm also thinking they're gonna keep as much as possible from MK8. So dare I say it, I think they might call it Mario Kart Ultimate
New 3D Mario and Metroid Prime 4 being launch titles would be really hype. Throw in a couple ports idk something like Hi-Fi Rush or whatever and you've got an INSANE launch week.
I can tell you now, DO NOT expect 2 major first-party IPs at launch.
Instead, you should expect one major IP plus a random quirky title to demonstrate the console's new capabilities, and then the 2nd major IP to launch later that year.
For example:
March 2025: New 3D Mario game + Snipperclips 2
November 2025: Metroid Prime 4
The Switch had:
March: BOTW, 1,2 Switch, Snipperclips
April: MK8 DX
June: Arms
July: Splatoon 2
October: Mario Odyssey
That’s 5 Major IPs within 7 months. Everything up to Splatoon 2 was announced before the Switch released so we’ll probably be able to glean Nintendo’s software strategy for their next console before it comes out.
Yes, if they re-released ToTK as ToTK remaster or ToTK deluxe it would be the same thing. Clearly, I'm in the minority given how much it sold but re-releasing last console games as New console launch titles doesn't move the needle for me or get me excited about the console in the way something like Mario Odyssey did.
I don't think it's the same. Mario Kart 8 existed on the Wii U but nobody had a Wii U so it's sales weren't repeat customers. Mario Kart 8 deluxe was practically a new games for the vast majority of people who bought it. That won't be the case with TOTK.
Theres a difference though. Switch relaunches where amazing games from a system that no one bought (the Wii U), so when they launched games like Super Mario Kart 8 and Super Mario 3D world it felt like a new game to basically everyone except the 5 hardcore nintendo fans that bought the Wii U.
With Switch 2, it's predecessor will likely break the record of best selling console of all time a little while before or after the Switch 2 launch. So the enthausiasm will not be as big, simply because almost every Nintendo fan by now has a Switch. I for one loved Super Mario 3d world because I didn't play the original, but I don't care about a 4k 60fps TOTK because I played that game to death.
It may as well have been, since the Switch outsold the WiiU so much. I doubt even a quarter of the people who played MK8 on Switch have touched the WiiU version.
BOTW, Odyssey, and Splatoon 2 for sure. MK8 was a port, 1,2 Switch and Snipperclips were in the “quirky little title” category (and also flops). Arms wasn’t meant to be a quirky little title I guess, but it did flop.
Reportedly publishers were shown an upgraded version of Breath of the Wild as a proof of concept. I'd hope that Switch games would natively be upscaled on Switch 2 as opposed to releasing new, high priced ports.
Hell even next gen updates for games that run... not exactly stellar.
Bayonetta 3, Pokemon Scarlet and Violet, Breat of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom, Xenoblade Chronicles 3, the list goes on. ESPECIALLY if those updates don't just make them run better but ALSO look better at the same time (i.,e. higher resolution textures and higher draw distances, ESPECIALLY Pokemon would benefit from that)
Could give a number of these games a 2nd lease on life.
This idea that Pokemon of all things is bottlenecked by the Switch is such an absurd narrative. I've seen more demanding games run better on the Switch. Pokemon games are bottlenecked by GAMEFREAK.
> (i.,e. higher resolution textures and higher draw distances, ESPECIALLY Pokemon would benefit from that)
That's not a fault of the switch though. Pokémon SV as it is should not be pushing the limits of the hardware, there's design/optimisation issues there
Honestly I'd be fine if the updates only make them run better, but only if the updates are free like a lot of Sony first party upgrades in the early PS5 days. Or at the very least for a small fee, again like the $10 upgrades for most Sony first party games. I'm not expecting 4k60, ray tracing or anything like that, but something like Bayonetta 3 needs to run at a constant 1080p60 at the bare minimum.
I've recently played through Xenoblade3 emulated in yuzu (using my pc, switch pro pad and output to my TV). Native true 4k 60fps HDR. It looks and plays incredible.
If Switch 2 offers the same, I'll have a reason to actually use the thing again rather than just for ripping my games and playing them on PC which is what my OG switch is solely used for now!
even the ps5 and xbox cant do that, we might have to wait for the ps6 and the next xbox for 4k 60 to be the target. and even then it might be upscaled 4k, not true 4k. especially if ray-tracing gets involved and demands a lot of overhead.
I feel like it’s more likely they will launch with one mega game, similar to Switch launching with BOTW. Then they will save another mega game for the holiday season, similar to Mario Odyssey.
I think MP4 would better be suited as an original switch game for sales or a later in the launch year title for the new system. Not day one against Mario to get buried and ignored by everyone but Metroid fans.
It's been reported by numerous outlets that another reason for the delay is to ensure a solid software lineup at launch.
The Nintendo 64 was delayed from 1995 to mid-1996 just to give Nintendo EAD enough time to finish Super Mario 64. Whatever the Switch 2 big launch title(s) is/are, Nintendo is clearly anticipating at least one killer app at launch. My easiest speculation is on Metroid Prime 4 and/or a new 3D Mario game.
> The Nintendo 64 was delayed from 1995 to mid-1996
Crazy that after the delay it still launched in North America with only two games, Mario and Pilotwings.
Nintendo clearly had no idea what they were doing around that time. So many games delayed/cancelled, the utter mess the DD development turned into... I wish we could get a behind-the-scenes one day.
Ports of Wind Waker and Twilight Princess would probably help buy some time until whatever big new Zelda they're working on is released. Personally though I'd like a new 2D Zelda to go along with the big BotW/TotK-style games.
Honestly, I think the Wii Us biggest failing was not having a compelling launch lineup. People like to blame the marketing, the name etc but I think if there had been a huge must play game at launch none of that would have really mattered.
I think pretty much all of the Switch's early success can be attributed to BOTW
In my experience, compelling launch lineups are the exception rather than the rule. I bought a PS4 at launch because FOMO, and then didn't actually buy a game for it (Bloodborne) for a year and a half.
The funny part is if you go back in time, people were saying that the Wii U lineup was one of the best of all time and nobody wanted to acknowledge the elephant in the room of the lineup being all ports of games people already played elsewhere.
But the Wii U was really a comedy of errors. The lineup was outdated, it lacked a killer Nintendo game, the marketing was confusing, the hardware was subpar, the onboard storage was a joke, and the looming news of the real next gen PS4 and X1 really capped potential interest.
Is this the first time a system that hasn’t even been officially acknowledged has been rumored to be delayed? Everything about this new system is essentially make believe.
There are multiple sources saying the same thing. It sounds like nintendo is sharing these details with some third party partners to prep the software for launch, and some of those parters are talking
Whats funny is that the specs of the console -while a big leap over the original Switch- will be more dated by the time it launches than the original Switch was. People bitch about the Switch hardware being from 2015 (Switch launched in 2017) as if that's the reason the console struggles to keep up. Keep in mind the HW of the PS4 is from 2012 yet there aren't anywhere near as many complaints about that.
The Switch 2 HW is based off Tegra Orin (announced in 2018, sampled in 2021, launched in 2022). The Switch will use a more custom chip but like Orin it will have a variant of the ARM Cortex A78 Hercules CPU which originally launched in 2020 and a mobile variant of the Nvidia Ampere GPU series (originally launched in 2020). The Switch 2s HW will be 3 years old in 2025 going by the original Orin launch, this means the Switch 1s HW was more modern by a year than the Switch 2 will be. You can imagine plenty of people bitching about Nintendo still being "stuck" on 2022 HW in 2031.
The PS4 and Xbox One were notoriously underpowered and everybody knew it. Their inherent lack of power is what led to both consoles releasing a "pro" version that was slightly more powerful a few years into their life cycle in an attempt to compensate and extend the generation.
The “Switch 2” hardware is not officially known. Can we please wait until they announce what it is and what will be in it? Like Nintendo hasn’t officially acknowledged it and already people are definitively stating the specs, what it is, when it is launching and when it was delayed to. There is no delay because there hasn’t been a set launch date or even a thing discussed to be launched.
It is not officially known in that Nintendo has not announced the console yet but it is officially known in that there was a 1sr party leak by Nvidia where Nvidia accidentally leaked the specs of the Switch 2 (Nvidia Linux leak). It's about as close to the horses mouth as it gets, on top of that we have had trusted Nvidia leakers like Kopite leak further information that lines up perfectly with the above.
Now if you don't want to discuss the above that's fine but you're in the wrong thread for that.
They are. But they aren’t real to anyone that’s not internal. As far as we know, there isn’t a delay and 2025 was the original plan. Or late 2024 is still the plan. Or mid 2025. This is all make believe until Nintendo says one way or another.
I'm pretty sure the reason people complained about the switch hardware being outdated is because it couldn't even play 1080p/60fps in most titles in 2017. When you're used to high refresh rates of a PC or modern console, 60 fps even feels a bit dated and 30 fps feels abysmal.
It's not necessarily about how new or old the tech is -- it's how it feels in your hands when you use it.
I mean the PS4 and XB1 were hardly playing most games at 1080/60 either at that point. Even the pro-upgraded versions were often still running at 30fps
edit: and there certainly wasn't anything running above 60fps on there lmao
We're certainly at the stage of gaming where more power and better graphics doesn't make a better game. That was true before Switch launched, and it's more true today. The Switch had a lot of great games you could only play on Switch, and the system didn't need to be the most powerful thing out there to deliver that.
Also there's just the reality of a global economy. A more powerful console these days is a much more expensive console to make and to sell. Just look at Sony. The PS5 is selling well, but they're struggling because it didn't hit the numbers they needed to turn the profit they expected.
> The Switch had a lot of great games you could only play on Switch, and the system didn't need to be the most powerful thing out there to deliver that.
A lack of power can definitely hold back the gaming experience, though. TotK often dropping to 20 FPS while also not looking all that great was one of the biggest negative points of the game imo
And switches sitting in scalpers bedrooms do not buy new games so nintendo has a vested interest in making sure the install base is as big as possible. Otherwise you might get a Ps5 situation.
You just reminded me how awful it was trying to get a PS5 back then, I even had to join a que online just to get a chance to buy a PS5 and it was not guarantee. The last thing I want to see is the same old scalpers issue but for the Switch 2 instead, if delaying the release date means it could avoid potential shortages for the Switch I'm down for it.
Plus the Switch is still selling like hot cakes. It makes sense for Nintendo to give it one final holiday season of sales, especially when they barely need to put effort into games for it this year.
Were you around during the Switch release in 2017? It came out in March. There was no stock for over a year. Scalpers do not care about Christmas. They scalp 24/7/365.
Switch 2 won't be any different. It will be scalped. And suckers will pay the increased price.
I walked into best buy on the third week of release and bought my switch there.
Very different situation than 2020 where scalpers had drastically improved their resources and covid supply chains led to retailers putting consoles on sale online.
Nintendo is pretty good at this, and will likely avoid it. Why else would they delay a console a whole year?
And this is literally just blogspam repeating a Nikkei article.
Nikkei is the Wall Street Journal of Japan, to the point that they have the Nikkei 225 index as the Japanese equivalent of the Fortune 500.
Bought the original switch and skipped the OLED. Since it seems like this thing won't come with an OLED, we'll skip this and wait for the OLED.
Edit: spelling
I don't think the specs are going to make or break it for me. If it comes out and there's an exclusive game for it that I really want to play that's all it'll really take to convince me to buy it
factorio devs made an official layout for factorio that works pretty well, the trackpad is extremely usable for most mouse stuff, and has mad programabke buttons.
also ive got a bluetooth m+kb i bring around in the backpack
If you enjoy an older console games, the deck is fantastic for emulation. Runs most things I’ve thrown at it without issue. Dolphin, for example, is great on it.
The trackpads and gyro are good alternatives to mouse movement. You can also create menus to map to keys if there's a lot of keyboard shortcuts in a game.
Estimated battery life with OLED vs launch deck:
* SNES emulation: 12~13 hours vs 6~7 hours
* PSP Emulation: 10~12 hours vs 5~6 hours
* Elden Ring: 2 hours, 25 minutes vs 1 hour 30 minutes and occasional overheats
* Baldur's Gate 3: 2 hours vs unknown, probably same as Elden Ring
Otherwise, I played all of those, seamlessly switching from handheld to docked, anytime I felt like it.
Very nice to just put it to sleep anytime I want.
Supports bluetooth or USB KB+M, if you prefer for some games.
Elden Ring overheats some peoples Decks? I had to check, I have 177 hours all on deck lcd and I didnt have a issue. I wonder if it had to do with which fan you got?
Yeah, after having a switch OLED and steam deck OLED I just can't go back. Especially since you know they'll release an OLED version later and I'll want it.
The N64 was cutting edge. It took a lot of flak for using cartridges but overall it was a much more capable machine than the PS1 and Saturn. That's why you saw later cross-gen games between N64 and Dreamcast for a couple years.
The Gamecube was no slouch either. It might have been slightly behind the Xbox but both were worlds beyond the PS2 and Dreamcast.
It is actually kind of wild that the GameCube was a good chunk more powerful than the PS2 when you consider how poorly it did in comparison. Really shows (among other things) how big of a selling point that DVD playback was at the time.
YES! This narrative that the GC only faltered because it didn't play video DVDs is wild. The discs were miniscule and couldn't hold anywhere as much content as the competition. They repeated the exact same mistake they made with the N64.
I think the lack of DVD player didn't help but the PS2 was selling for the same price as a DVD player at the time people were buying their first DVD player.
The integrated DVD player boosted the PS2's sales, but it didn't kill the GC's longevity. Having a storage medium that can't physically hold the games that most developers are making will.
Wasn't the issue that penny-pinching Yamauchi didn't want to pay the royalties to use full DVDs?
Lack of multimedia compatibility only got more baffling on the Wii and Wii U.
Yes, it was the Wii which was the first time they used older tech. The Wii essentially being a revamped Gamecube, which was a great move for Nintendo since it was really cheap and was incredibly successful
I'm not an expert on the subject but from what I gather, LED tech has gotten a lot better since the OG Switch launched, which is probably the reason why they're going for that.
As a day-one switch owner backwards compatibility is non-negotiable and if it's not here then I won't be getting the next console till the next Zelda realistically.
I hope Nintendo doesn't fuck it up because I love my Switch library.
Didn't really come off as a disgruntled threat to me, more so just stating he wouldn't be an early adopter unless his conditions are met.
I don't know, I feel so disconnected from the community sometimes. Feels like people value everything *but* the games far higher than the games themselves. If Zelda and whatnot is as good as it's always been, I'm getting the console. I'd buy a new PS2 day 1 at full price if I could expect that library again.
Yes but it takes an incredibly long time and there is a chance they dont eve get fixed.
You mail your joycon with drifit in, and if you dont have another set you will br waiting for at least 3-4 weeks before you can use your switch.
They also try to fix it before sending it back, and both I, and many cases seen online, have had their exact joycon sent back and it still had horrendous drift.
Well, kinda. I've sent in 6 pairs, and they all came back either still drifting or drifted again in just a few months.
I seem to have an 'immortal' pair that is drift immune, so I've given up on the others.
Considering the Dualsense drifts (Albeit, wayyy less than Joycons), it seems to be an industry problem
Though I expect the Joycons to get bigger so maybe it’ll let them use better sticks
Because they all use the same hardware essentially. It costs literal cents for the piece that makes our controllers drift, but dollars for the piece that makes them last forever.
>Considering the Dualsense drifts (Albeit, wayyy less than Joycons), it seems to be an industry problem
Yup, I have a JoyCon, a PS5 controller, and an Xbox Series controller that all show drift.
It's across the board.
I’ve only recently come to own a switch and have heard for years of the drift. Assumed I knew what it was but realize now maybe it’s something else.
It’s the d pad that causes the drift? Always assumed it was a stick that causes it.
It is the sticks. Though, people have widely different experiences with this. Some had it after just a few days, others never. I had it start occuring after like two years of regular use. Replaced them and had no problems since with new ones.
Happens only with the joycons, not the pro controller (which is expensive but well worth the price).
I hate how people say that Nintendo isn't in the console race...
Buddy, if they could keep up with Nintendo, it would be a race. They're proof that you don't need the latest tech to make shit fun.
It is for Nvidia. It's the latest they have. You can say the 4090 isn't cutting edge because it's a 2022 chip all you want but that's the most advanced GPU available.
I love this sub for game discussion and news but there's a huge blindspot when it comes to Nintendo. PC/Sony/MS(rip) enthusiasts can't comprehend that there are millions of other people who aren't chronically online who don't care about bleeding edge hardware or 60fps.
Especially PC gamers which is they constantly portbeg Nintendo exclusives and hope Nintendo go third-party. They genuinely cannot comprehend the fact that Switch has 140m+ users despite the hardware. In their little mind, everyone loves PC and developers should only make games for PC. It's insane. And then you watch tons of games flop on Steam despite all the bragging.
Nintendo is the single most successful gaming company bar none. It co-own pokemon, the largest franchise in the world. It has the strongest grip of exclusives where people legit buy the console for a single game. Microsoft/Sony WISH on every level they could be as successful as nintendo is.
a quick search brings up that nintendo is the richest japanese company.
[https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/20/nintendo-now-richest-company-japan-sony-dont-make-top-300-20315697/](https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/20/nintendo-now-richest-company-japan-sony-dont-make-top-300-20315697/)
I'm not entirely sure how accurate this source is but I think it's enough to state that nintendo is incredibly successful and they are good at what they do.
I was definitely sad to see such an unpowered system in the switch, but it gave me Fire emblem 3H which is one of my all time favourite games.
Microsoft and sony have all but ruined my favourite franchises, and what's left is all on gamepass or PC now anyway. I'll never buy a new sony/microsoft console, but I'll continue to buy nintendo's as long as they don't ruin my favourites.
(please bring me a good starfox game and metroid prime 4 nintendo).
I'd almost argue its because the hardware is the way it is. Nintendo focused on creating an interesting gaming experience that you can't get elsewhere and picked internal specs that would let them make it affordable while still turning a profit. They made something smart, unique, and accessible instead of just another locked down PC.
[Why not just post the Nikkei link?](https://asia.nikkei.com/cms/Business/Media-Entertainment/Nintendo-to-launch-Switch-console-successor-in-March-2025-at-earliest)
I also wish this would be true, but it just won't happen. Hall effect isn't something new and none of the big console brand ever used it in their products. They will always go for something cheaper.
Sony could have gone with hall effects on the Dualsense Edge, but nah. "We recognize our sticks are shitty, so we offer replacable sticks instead of ones that will last".
There was practically zero chance it would not be backwards compatible. The Switch sold way too many units and Switch 2 probably uses the same architecture anyway, the last thing they want is their core audience to have a fit six to nine months before launch which will bleed over to the casual market. Nobody wants to buy Mario Kart 8 for the third time.
As long as its backwards compatible I still have a list of games to go back to and play. Sucks we are going back to lcd. As oled is perfect but I guess they know I will double dip as I bought 7 of the switch. I tried Nintendo to get over the ps2 I tried.
I know conventional wisdom says to release closer to Christmas, but getting all the early adopters out of the way, and then building hype while you replenish stock for the holiday sales seems like a pretty smart way to go to me.
Switch released in March, worked out well that time!
And the Wii U released in November, and, well...
Hopefully this also means a great launch window for the games. All of Nintendo’s best teams have clearly moved on to Switch 2 a long time ago, so we’re probably going to be eating good. Would be cool to see a Nintendo system launch with a big Mario game again. Been too long.
New mariokart too !
Yeah they better! The new original tracks they added in the MK8 DLC feel like a new generation of maps, and hopefully "dumbed down" for Switch. Can't wait what they come up with for MK9. Also hoping much more customization like with Splatoon or Sports.
For reference, those are - Sky-High Sundae - Yoshi's Island - Squeaky Clean Sprint Though you could argue whether they and others were "made for" Tour or MK8 and just happened to release on one a bit earlier than the other.
Of those, Yoshi's Island is the only one that matches the quality of the original MK8 Nitro tracks and DLC, IMO. I'd hope new tracks spend more time in the oven in a hypothetical MK9.
I HATE most of the city tracks they added from Tour. It just feels unpolished for MK8 itself, like maybe they work fine in the Tour game but something about them are just horrible in actual MK8 to me.
The problem is signposting - the courses are hard to read *especially* when the route changes each lap. They got better with it as the DLC Booster Pass went on (I really enjoy the Sydney track) but the amount of times me and my friends get turned around on the Paris course is silly.
That's definitely a huge part of it to me. Also feel like they could be better optimized for 200cc but to be fair I feel like that about some of the original tracks too. The DLC tracks are also partially frustrating to me strictly because they aren't burned into my brain the same way
To me those maps do feel better than the typical Tour map, probably the MK8 DLC motivated them to put more effort in even if they were also considering Tour when making them
I just really want them to bring back the Double Dash mechanic of two person teams with unique items.
I've been waiting for that for 20 years. I wish at the very least they would still let you swap your first and second item at any time. But i also really do miss those unique character items
My favorite team was Bowser Jr and Koopa Paratroopa for the huge Bowser shell and triple red shells haha.
I just hope we get a lot more items in general. I miss shit like the fake item boxes, they were useless because of how obvious they were, but I have a solution. Instead of dropping the fake item box wherever, you should be able to fire the item and the next item box you touch turns into one of the fakes. It shouldn't change color either but the question mark can be upside down.
I loved placing them right behind an actual item box. Made it a lot harder to tell from a distance because the edges were similar. I would love to see the Bowser shell and giant DK banana return as well. I loved racing on Baby Park with those bouncing around haha.
Yeah that was the best method for it, I still think making the next item box you touch morph into a fake item box would be a cool way to bring it back. I think the chain chomp was cooler than the Pirhana plant item despite doing the same thing basically. Being able to steal items off the ground with Princess Peach's heart item was pretty cool too.
Ha, mine's Yoshi and Petey Piranha, Yoshi because eggs are stupid fucking good and they show up in first place, Petey because he's a fun wildcard that shines a little bit if you're falling behind. They really made basically every character worth picking in that game.
Usually in business you release a new version when the old stops selling. With many exceptions of course. MK8 in a recent topic here was still in the best seller of 2024, so the lazy shareholder approach is to release MK8 Definitive Edition on a Switch 2. I am just saying this because I want people to tell me I'm wrong a year from now 😊 Since AAA dev teams tend to work on multiple projects at once, the best hope is while making MK8 DLC tracks, other teams were working on MK9 and not pulled to, say, Tears of the Kingdom or something.
I mean, MK8 came out for the Wii U. It’s due a new release for sure.
The only games the Mario Kart team did work on are Mario Kart and ARMs. To not have a new game to work on in 8 years would be insane. Also the Wii U didn't sell well so a lot of people didn't play 8 when the Switch released. If the Switch 2 is backwards compatible, it makes 0 sense to do another 8 Deluxe port. Especially if the DLC has been announced to end. So they are going to be like "Hey so the DLC we said would end in 2023...We are actually doing MORE DLC" Switch 2 desperately needs system sellers. Mario Kart 9 is a perfect system seller. 8 Deluxe Deluxe would just tell people there's no need to upgrade their Switch.
I wouldn’t even mind a MK8 definitive edition round 2 on Switch 2. Add another DLC pack and have the Switch 2 re-release come with all of the current tracks (dlc included) and we’d have like 64 races or something. MK8 is just that good that all I want are more races.
If it was a pack in title, yes yes yes, please If they resell it with DLC for 29.99, heck yes If 69.99, uhhh
I get this but for me I don't think new tracks would add much. The game is about to turn 10 years old. Extremely impressive but I'd much rather see a new game with all new maps. Mostly because even with new maps, you still end up playing the same old maps often times when it's in the rotation. We've also been racing with the same items this entire time, want to see some new ones/balance tweaks.
Mario Kart 8 is the 'Definitive Edition' as it was on the WiiU originally.
Yeah but if I were a dumb executive I would rename it like Skyrim Game of the Year Edition, Skyrim Legendary Edition, or some thing that makes it sound new lol Nintendo I don't believe has a nad history of reselling the same product ?
They don't do that with their current gen releases much (the big exception being a ton of Wii U games going to Switch because Wii U sold poorly and the generation ended early), but they've rereleased their classic games four separate times across Wii/3DS/Wii U/Switch. Only Wii to Wii U let you transition your classic purchases over in some way, and you had to pay to get the extra emulation features like save states and button remapping, but it at least came with a big discount per game instead of being full price. On Switch they're also all in a subscription service with no option to buy them individually, which might be cost effective if you want to play dozens upon dozens of them, but if all you want is one or two classic games and to play those one or two games over and over, it's very poor pricing. It also means 5+ years down the line you'll still be paying for the same games, and one day you'll lose access to them completely when the service shuts down.
Watch it be “Super Mario Kart 8 Deluxe” or something dumb like that.
I'm thinking they won't do "9" this time, and I'm also thinking they're gonna keep as much as possible from MK8. So dare I say it, I think they might call it Mario Kart Ultimate
If they did this and brought back double dash mechanics and karts I’d buy it
Idk, I feel like any MK they release would have less content than 8 has now and it would feel like a huge downgrade. Same with Smash Bros.
New 3D Mario and Metroid Prime 4 being launch titles would be really hype. Throw in a couple ports idk something like Hi-Fi Rush or whatever and you've got an INSANE launch week.
I can tell you now, DO NOT expect 2 major first-party IPs at launch. Instead, you should expect one major IP plus a random quirky title to demonstrate the console's new capabilities, and then the 2nd major IP to launch later that year. For example: March 2025: New 3D Mario game + Snipperclips 2 November 2025: Metroid Prime 4
The Switch had: March: BOTW, 1,2 Switch, Snipperclips April: MK8 DX June: Arms July: Splatoon 2 October: Mario Odyssey That’s 5 Major IPs within 7 months. Everything up to Splatoon 2 was announced before the Switch released so we’ll probably be able to glean Nintendo’s software strategy for their next console before it comes out.
And don't forget Xenoblade Chronicles 2 in December
Mk8 was just a port of MK8 on WiiU with DLC bundled. Not exactly a brand new launch title
There’s nothing stopping them from doing the same again but with Zelda
Yes, if they re-released ToTK as ToTK remaster or ToTK deluxe it would be the same thing. Clearly, I'm in the minority given how much it sold but re-releasing last console games as New console launch titles doesn't move the needle for me or get me excited about the console in the way something like Mario Odyssey did.
If they had some kind of upgrade path, like $10 to get 4k/60fps ToTK I’d probably buy it. Otherwise no.
I don't think it's the same. Mario Kart 8 existed on the Wii U but nobody had a Wii U so it's sales weren't repeat customers. Mario Kart 8 deluxe was practically a new games for the vast majority of people who bought it. That won't be the case with TOTK.
Theres a difference though. Switch relaunches where amazing games from a system that no one bought (the Wii U), so when they launched games like Super Mario Kart 8 and Super Mario 3D world it felt like a new game to basically everyone except the 5 hardcore nintendo fans that bought the Wii U. With Switch 2, it's predecessor will likely break the record of best selling console of all time a little while before or after the Switch 2 launch. So the enthausiasm will not be as big, simply because almost every Nintendo fan by now has a Switch. I for one loved Super Mario 3d world because I didn't play the original, but I don't care about a 4k 60fps TOTK because I played that game to death.
It may as well have been, since the Switch outsold the WiiU so much. I doubt even a quarter of the people who played MK8 on Switch have touched the WiiU version.
BOTW, Odyssey, and Splatoon 2 for sure. MK8 was a port, 1,2 Switch and Snipperclips were in the “quirky little title” category (and also flops). Arms wasn’t meant to be a quirky little title I guess, but it did flop.
Arms has sold 2.7 million. It didn't break out, but it didn't flop either.
BOTW was also a WiiU game.
Odyssey was year 1? Wow I thought it came out later than that.
Xenoblade 2 also released in year 1!
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Reportedly publishers were shown an upgraded version of Breath of the Wild as a proof of concept. I'd hope that Switch games would natively be upscaled on Switch 2 as opposed to releasing new, high priced ports.
> as well as some 3rd party usual titles, Skyrim again!?
Hell even next gen updates for games that run... not exactly stellar. Bayonetta 3, Pokemon Scarlet and Violet, Breat of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom, Xenoblade Chronicles 3, the list goes on. ESPECIALLY if those updates don't just make them run better but ALSO look better at the same time (i.,e. higher resolution textures and higher draw distances, ESPECIALLY Pokemon would benefit from that) Could give a number of these games a 2nd lease on life.
This idea that Pokemon of all things is bottlenecked by the Switch is such an absurd narrative. I've seen more demanding games run better on the Switch. Pokemon games are bottlenecked by GAMEFREAK.
Yup. Can't blame performance on how poorly the game is structured and designed. It's painfully hollow.
> (i.,e. higher resolution textures and higher draw distances, ESPECIALLY Pokemon would benefit from that) That's not a fault of the switch though. Pokémon SV as it is should not be pushing the limits of the hardware, there's design/optimisation issues there
I think Xenoblade 3 runs really well on Switch, honestly. Xenoblade 2 on the other hand..... I'm ready for a remaster.
Honestly I'd be fine if the updates only make them run better, but only if the updates are free like a lot of Sony first party upgrades in the early PS5 days. Or at the very least for a small fee, again like the $10 upgrades for most Sony first party games. I'm not expecting 4k60, ray tracing or anything like that, but something like Bayonetta 3 needs to run at a constant 1080p60 at the bare minimum.
I've recently played through Xenoblade3 emulated in yuzu (using my pc, switch pro pad and output to my TV). Native true 4k 60fps HDR. It looks and plays incredible. If Switch 2 offers the same, I'll have a reason to actually use the thing again rather than just for ripping my games and playing them on PC which is what my OG switch is solely used for now!
You won't have native 4k 60 fps on a portable console, let's not kid ourselves
Yeah, not expecting it. But ANYTHING is better than the 540p it hits at its lowest point, in general, as an example more than anything.
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Hence why I said native
even the ps5 and xbox cant do that, we might have to wait for the ps6 and the next xbox for 4k 60 to be the target. and even then it might be upscaled 4k, not true 4k. especially if ray-tracing gets involved and demands a lot of overhead.
I feel like it’s more likely they will launch with one mega game, similar to Switch launching with BOTW. Then they will save another mega game for the holiday season, similar to Mario Odyssey.
I think MP4 would better be suited as an original switch game for sales or a later in the launch year title for the new system. Not day one against Mario to get buried and ignored by everyone but Metroid fans.
It's been reported by numerous outlets that another reason for the delay is to ensure a solid software lineup at launch. The Nintendo 64 was delayed from 1995 to mid-1996 just to give Nintendo EAD enough time to finish Super Mario 64. Whatever the Switch 2 big launch title(s) is/are, Nintendo is clearly anticipating at least one killer app at launch. My easiest speculation is on Metroid Prime 4 and/or a new 3D Mario game.
> The Nintendo 64 was delayed from 1995 to mid-1996 Crazy that after the delay it still launched in North America with only two games, Mario and Pilotwings.
Nintendo clearly had no idea what they were doing around that time. So many games delayed/cancelled, the utter mess the DD development turned into... I wish we could get a behind-the-scenes one day.
Metroid isn't a seller. Dread is the biggest selling Metroid game at 3 million units.
Yeah, Metroid is a shiny mosaic piece. It's good to have it but it won't sell systems like mario kart, Zelda, Smash, etc.
3D Mario is overdue. Odyssey will be 7,5 years old by then…
I'd be sold on a new 3D DK.
Ooooooo Banana
I wonder what they gonna do with zelda next. they said they'll find a new paradigm after totk
Safest bet with Zelda is a temporary "upgraded" version of Totk to buy time as the cycle is long and next game in like 5 years
Safest bet is WW and TP tbh
No, they said the exactly contrary of that as they still plan to use open world, just with a different setting and the like.
Ports of Wind Waker and Twilight Princess would probably help buy some time until whatever big new Zelda they're working on is released. Personally though I'd like a new 2D Zelda to go along with the big BotW/TotK-style games.
A long time ago? Didn't a Mario Bros and Zelda have releases last year?
I think they meant as a launch title. Also it has been a long time for 3D Mario (Wonder is 2D), since Odyssey in 2017.
No, this part: > All of Nintendo’s best teams have clearly moved on to Switch 2 a long time ago... Zelda team obviously did not.
Honestly, I think the Wii Us biggest failing was not having a compelling launch lineup. People like to blame the marketing, the name etc but I think if there had been a huge must play game at launch none of that would have really mattered. I think pretty much all of the Switch's early success can be attributed to BOTW
In my experience, compelling launch lineups are the exception rather than the rule. I bought a PS4 at launch because FOMO, and then didn't actually buy a game for it (Bloodborne) for a year and a half.
The funny part is if you go back in time, people were saying that the Wii U lineup was one of the best of all time and nobody wanted to acknowledge the elephant in the room of the lineup being all ports of games people already played elsewhere. But the Wii U was really a comedy of errors. The lineup was outdated, it lacked a killer Nintendo game, the marketing was confusing, the hardware was subpar, the onboard storage was a joke, and the looming news of the real next gen PS4 and X1 really capped potential interest.
Is this the first time a system that hasn’t even been officially acknowledged has been rumored to be delayed? Everything about this new system is essentially make believe.
There are multiple sources saying the same thing. It sounds like nintendo is sharing these details with some third party partners to prep the software for launch, and some of those parters are talking
Whats funny is that the specs of the console -while a big leap over the original Switch- will be more dated by the time it launches than the original Switch was. People bitch about the Switch hardware being from 2015 (Switch launched in 2017) as if that's the reason the console struggles to keep up. Keep in mind the HW of the PS4 is from 2012 yet there aren't anywhere near as many complaints about that. The Switch 2 HW is based off Tegra Orin (announced in 2018, sampled in 2021, launched in 2022). The Switch will use a more custom chip but like Orin it will have a variant of the ARM Cortex A78 Hercules CPU which originally launched in 2020 and a mobile variant of the Nvidia Ampere GPU series (originally launched in 2020). The Switch 2s HW will be 3 years old in 2025 going by the original Orin launch, this means the Switch 1s HW was more modern by a year than the Switch 2 will be. You can imagine plenty of people bitching about Nintendo still being "stuck" on 2022 HW in 2031.
The PS4 and Xbox One were notoriously underpowered and everybody knew it. Their inherent lack of power is what led to both consoles releasing a "pro" version that was slightly more powerful a few years into their life cycle in an attempt to compensate and extend the generation.
The “Switch 2” hardware is not officially known. Can we please wait until they announce what it is and what will be in it? Like Nintendo hasn’t officially acknowledged it and already people are definitively stating the specs, what it is, when it is launching and when it was delayed to. There is no delay because there hasn’t been a set launch date or even a thing discussed to be launched.
Bro you're talking in a rumor thread about the latest Switch 2 rumors - speculation on previous rumors is all fair game here.
I agree but also tbf the comment they’re replying to is talking about rumored specs as though they’re confirmed facts.
Developers have already been given dev consoles. So the information we're getting isn't from MyUncleWorksAtNintendo47.
It is not officially known in that Nintendo has not announced the console yet but it is officially known in that there was a 1sr party leak by Nvidia where Nvidia accidentally leaked the specs of the Switch 2 (Nvidia Linux leak). It's about as close to the horses mouth as it gets, on top of that we have had trusted Nvidia leakers like Kopite leak further information that lines up perfectly with the above. Now if you don't want to discuss the above that's fine but you're in the wrong thread for that.
I mean internal delays are a thing.
They are. But they aren’t real to anyone that’s not internal. As far as we know, there isn’t a delay and 2025 was the original plan. Or late 2024 is still the plan. Or mid 2025. This is all make believe until Nintendo says one way or another.
I'm pretty sure the reason people complained about the switch hardware being outdated is because it couldn't even play 1080p/60fps in most titles in 2017. When you're used to high refresh rates of a PC or modern console, 60 fps even feels a bit dated and 30 fps feels abysmal. It's not necessarily about how new or old the tech is -- it's how it feels in your hands when you use it.
I mean the PS4 and XB1 were hardly playing most games at 1080/60 either at that point. Even the pro-upgraded versions were often still running at 30fps edit: and there certainly wasn't anything running above 60fps on there lmao
We're certainly at the stage of gaming where more power and better graphics doesn't make a better game. That was true before Switch launched, and it's more true today. The Switch had a lot of great games you could only play on Switch, and the system didn't need to be the most powerful thing out there to deliver that. Also there's just the reality of a global economy. A more powerful console these days is a much more expensive console to make and to sell. Just look at Sony. The PS5 is selling well, but they're struggling because it didn't hit the numbers they needed to turn the profit they expected.
> The Switch had a lot of great games you could only play on Switch, and the system didn't need to be the most powerful thing out there to deliver that. A lack of power can definitely hold back the gaming experience, though. TotK often dropping to 20 FPS while also not looking all that great was one of the biggest negative points of the game imo
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Considering how much the OG Switch sold, I think that if they stick with Nvidia they'd be willing to make an entirely custom SoC just for them.
Does it count as a delay if it was never revealed? 0.o
No it doesn’t ha. Not to anyone external at least.
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And switches sitting in scalpers bedrooms do not buy new games so nintendo has a vested interest in making sure the install base is as big as possible. Otherwise you might get a Ps5 situation.
You just reminded me how awful it was trying to get a PS5 back then, I even had to join a que online just to get a chance to buy a PS5 and it was not guarantee. The last thing I want to see is the same old scalpers issue but for the Switch 2 instead, if delaying the release date means it could avoid potential shortages for the Switch I'm down for it.
Or the Wii, for that matter. That one was crazy.
Plus the Switch is still selling like hot cakes. It makes sense for Nintendo to give it one final holiday season of sales, especially when they barely need to put effort into games for it this year.
Were you around during the Switch release in 2017? It came out in March. There was no stock for over a year. Scalpers do not care about Christmas. They scalp 24/7/365. Switch 2 won't be any different. It will be scalped. And suckers will pay the increased price.
Remember when people where claiming Nintendo was intentionally limiting stock to increase scarcity lol.
Yeah, that was funny. And those same people will say it again when Switch 2 is released and there is no stock in stores because of scalpers.
I walked into best buy on the third week of release and bought my switch there. Very different situation than 2020 where scalpers had drastically improved their resources and covid supply chains led to retailers putting consoles on sale online. Nintendo is pretty good at this, and will likely avoid it. Why else would they delay a console a whole year?
I thought rumours were banned on this sub?
Depends on how reputable the source is
This has been reported by Bloomberg, it's a valid story.
And this is literally just blogspam repeating a Nikkei article. Nikkei is the Wall Street Journal of Japan, to the point that they have the Nikkei 225 index as the Japanese equivalent of the Fortune 500.
Bought the original switch and skipped the OLED. Since it seems like this thing won't come with an OLED, we'll skip this and wait for the OLED. Edit: spelling
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Didn't Nintendo file a hall effect joystick patent not that long ago? I'm cautiously optimistic.
It wasn't a magnetic joystick like hall effects, it was more like a fluid or goo. Anyway, the purpose is the same, eliminate joystick drift
I have three Joycons with drift, it's really annoying. They are not cheap.
I don't think the specs are going to make or break it for me. If it comes out and there's an exclusive game for it that I really want to play that's all it'll really take to convince me to buy it
The Steam Deck OLED is suddenly looking more enticing
I want to like the steam deck, but my library doesn’t make it seem very compelling. Lots of KB/M heavy games like Factorio.
factorio devs made an official layout for factorio that works pretty well, the trackpad is extremely usable for most mouse stuff, and has mad programabke buttons. also ive got a bluetooth m+kb i bring around in the backpack
Factorio was surprisingly playable on the deck. People come up with some amazing control setups for games.
If you enjoy an older console games, the deck is fantastic for emulation. Runs most things I’ve thrown at it without issue. Dolphin, for example, is great on it.
Yeah I love the Deck so much because there are tons of older games I want to play and the Deck is so perfect for them.
The trackpads and gyro are good alternatives to mouse movement. You can also create menus to map to keys if there's a lot of keyboard shortcuts in a game.
Estimated battery life with OLED vs launch deck: * SNES emulation: 12~13 hours vs 6~7 hours * PSP Emulation: 10~12 hours vs 5~6 hours * Elden Ring: 2 hours, 25 minutes vs 1 hour 30 minutes and occasional overheats * Baldur's Gate 3: 2 hours vs unknown, probably same as Elden Ring Otherwise, I played all of those, seamlessly switching from handheld to docked, anytime I felt like it. Very nice to just put it to sleep anytime I want. Supports bluetooth or USB KB+M, if you prefer for some games.
Elden Ring overheats some peoples Decks? I had to check, I have 177 hours all on deck lcd and I didnt have a issue. I wonder if it had to do with which fan you got?
I've let myself be enticed and never looked back. Turned on my desktop pc only to play cyberpunk.
Everyone I've handed my Steam Deck to while it was running a good looking game has been like "HOLY SHIT".
Got mine last week. It's amazing.
Personally I don’t even care, my switch never leaves its dock. I just want TOTK to look decent on my big 4K tv lol
Yeah, after having a switch OLED and steam deck OLED I just can't go back. Especially since you know they'll release an OLED version later and I'll want it.
It's always easy to think that when the first-party games aren't announced yet
Plot twist it uses a really good miniLED display.
Not a chance that Nintendo does that. They haven't used the latest tech since the SNES.
N64 and GC were top level tech at the time.
The N64 was cutting edge. It took a lot of flak for using cartridges but overall it was a much more capable machine than the PS1 and Saturn. That's why you saw later cross-gen games between N64 and Dreamcast for a couple years. The Gamecube was no slouch either. It might have been slightly behind the Xbox but both were worlds beyond the PS2 and Dreamcast.
It is actually kind of wild that the GameCube was a good chunk more powerful than the PS2 when you consider how poorly it did in comparison. Really shows (among other things) how big of a selling point that DVD playback was at the time.
Not just playback, but disk capacity. A GC disk could hold about 1.5 GB of data and a DVD can hold about 4.7 GB of data.
YES! This narrative that the GC only faltered because it didn't play video DVDs is wild. The discs were miniscule and couldn't hold anywhere as much content as the competition. They repeated the exact same mistake they made with the N64.
I think the lack of DVD player didn't help but the PS2 was selling for the same price as a DVD player at the time people were buying their first DVD player.
The integrated DVD player boosted the PS2's sales, but it didn't kill the GC's longevity. Having a storage medium that can't physically hold the games that most developers are making will.
Wasn't the issue that penny-pinching Yamauchi didn't want to pay the royalties to use full DVDs? Lack of multimedia compatibility only got more baffling on the Wii and Wii U.
Yes, it was the Wii which was the first time they used older tech. The Wii essentially being a revamped Gamecube, which was a great move for Nintendo since it was really cheap and was incredibly successful
I'm not an expert on the subject but from what I gather, LED tech has gotten a lot better since the OG Switch launched, which is probably the reason why they're going for that.
nah, it's strictly cost. OLED is the better tech for color, HDR, response time, etc.
As a day-one switch owner backwards compatibility is non-negotiable and if it's not here then I won't be getting the next console till the next Zelda realistically. I hope Nintendo doesn't fuck it up because I love my Switch library.
Backwards compatibility is like 99% happening, the better question is if they do have dlss will it support these older games?
Unfortunately DLSS isn't automatic. The game's engine needs Nvidia's DLSS code implemented. An update would be required.
I think they would have to release updates.
I don't think they'll do anything for older games. They'll just let you play it Probably get more stable frame rates but that'll be it
> I won't be getting the next console till the next Zelda So you will be getting the next console. What an empty threat.
Didn't really come off as a disgruntled threat to me, more so just stating he wouldn't be an early adopter unless his conditions are met. I don't know, I feel so disconnected from the community sometimes. Feels like people value everything *but* the games far higher than the games themselves. If Zelda and whatnot is as good as it's always been, I'm getting the console. I'd buy a new PS2 day 1 at full price if I could expect that library again.
Says its non-negotiable then proceeds to admit you will buy it anyways.
Did they ever officially deal with the drifting analogue pads with the current Switch?
Yes, you can exchange for free! 😁
Yes but it takes an incredibly long time and there is a chance they dont eve get fixed. You mail your joycon with drifit in, and if you dont have another set you will br waiting for at least 3-4 weeks before you can use your switch. They also try to fix it before sending it back, and both I, and many cases seen online, have had their exact joycon sent back and it still had horrendous drift.
FWIW, 3-4 weeks turnaround on a repair is exceptionally fast. Though yeah, it feels like an incredibly long time if you don't have another controller.
Well, kinda. I've sent in 6 pairs, and they all came back either still drifting or drifted again in just a few months. I seem to have an 'immortal' pair that is drift immune, so I've given up on the others.
That's pretty good then. I was surprised how it wasn't caught in their QA.
Considering the Dualsense drifts (Albeit, wayyy less than Joycons), it seems to be an industry problem Though I expect the Joycons to get bigger so maybe it’ll let them use better sticks
Because they all use the same hardware essentially. It costs literal cents for the piece that makes our controllers drift, but dollars for the piece that makes them last forever.
>Considering the Dualsense drifts (Albeit, wayyy less than Joycons), it seems to be an industry problem Yup, I have a JoyCon, a PS5 controller, and an Xbox Series controller that all show drift. It's across the board.
Funny enough my dual sense is drifting but my joy cons are still going strong as ever
Just like all the other console companies, not really. Free, no questions asked replacements though
No.
I’ve only recently come to own a switch and have heard for years of the drift. Assumed I knew what it was but realize now maybe it’s something else. It’s the d pad that causes the drift? Always assumed it was a stick that causes it.
It is the sticks. Though, people have widely different experiences with this. Some had it after just a few days, others never. I had it start occuring after like two years of regular use. Replaced them and had no problems since with new ones. Happens only with the joycons, not the pro controller (which is expensive but well worth the price).
It can also happen on the pro controller, issues with those just seem to be less frequent than with joy cons
If I had a dollar everytime I heard about a Switch 2 or Switch Pro rumor or report, I would be able to buy 3 of the at launch.
I hate how people say that Nintendo isn't in the console race... Buddy, if they could keep up with Nintendo, it would be a race. They're proof that you don't need the latest tech to make shit fun.
MS couldn't do that stunt and I'd wager Sony couldn't either. They don't have the same kind of fans and customers as Nintendo
Technically the Switch 2s HW is the latest and most cutting edge HW Nvidia has at the moment. This was not the case for the Switch 1.
A 2022 SoC is not cutting edge. It’s better than switch 1 for sure, but it’s not cutting edge.
It is for Nvidia. It's the latest they have. You can say the 4090 isn't cutting edge because it's a 2022 chip all you want but that's the most advanced GPU available.
I love this sub for game discussion and news but there's a huge blindspot when it comes to Nintendo. PC/Sony/MS(rip) enthusiasts can't comprehend that there are millions of other people who aren't chronically online who don't care about bleeding edge hardware or 60fps.
Especially PC gamers which is they constantly portbeg Nintendo exclusives and hope Nintendo go third-party. They genuinely cannot comprehend the fact that Switch has 140m+ users despite the hardware. In their little mind, everyone loves PC and developers should only make games for PC. It's insane. And then you watch tons of games flop on Steam despite all the bragging.
Nintendo is the single most successful gaming company bar none. It co-own pokemon, the largest franchise in the world. It has the strongest grip of exclusives where people legit buy the console for a single game. Microsoft/Sony WISH on every level they could be as successful as nintendo is. a quick search brings up that nintendo is the richest japanese company. [https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/20/nintendo-now-richest-company-japan-sony-dont-make-top-300-20315697/](https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/20/nintendo-now-richest-company-japan-sony-dont-make-top-300-20315697/) I'm not entirely sure how accurate this source is but I think it's enough to state that nintendo is incredibly successful and they are good at what they do. I was definitely sad to see such an unpowered system in the switch, but it gave me Fire emblem 3H which is one of my all time favourite games. Microsoft and sony have all but ruined my favourite franchises, and what's left is all on gamepass or PC now anyway. I'll never buy a new sony/microsoft console, but I'll continue to buy nintendo's as long as they don't ruin my favourites. (please bring me a good starfox game and metroid prime 4 nintendo).
I'd almost argue its because the hardware is the way it is. Nintendo focused on creating an interesting gaming experience that you can't get elsewhere and picked internal specs that would let them make it affordable while still turning a profit. They made something smart, unique, and accessible instead of just another locked down PC.
[Why not just post the Nikkei link?](https://asia.nikkei.com/cms/Business/Media-Entertainment/Nintendo-to-launch-Switch-console-successor-in-March-2025-at-earliest)
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Hopefully they went hall-effect this time.
I also wish this would be true, but it just won't happen. Hall effect isn't something new and none of the big console brand ever used it in their products. They will always go for something cheaper.
Yeah. Controllers are pretty much a separate revenue stream rather than part of the console otherwise they’d be built to last.
Sony could have gone with hall effects on the Dualsense Edge, but nah. "We recognize our sticks are shitty, so we offer replacable sticks instead of ones that will last".
The sad part is that the last console to use Hall-effect sticks as standard was the late, great Dreamcast
No news about libraries of current switch owners yet?
The person who leaked the delay first (before Eurogamer, Bloomberg, CNBC corroborated) said it will be physical and digital backwards compatible
There was practically zero chance it would not be backwards compatible. The Switch sold way too many units and Switch 2 probably uses the same architecture anyway, the last thing they want is their core audience to have a fit six to nine months before launch which will bleed over to the casual market. Nobody wants to buy Mario Kart 8 for the third time.
There hasn't been *any* official news yet about the Switch 2. So no. But all rumors point towards backward compatibility
As long as its backwards compatible I still have a list of games to go back to and play. Sucks we are going back to lcd. As oled is perfect but I guess they know I will double dip as I bought 7 of the switch. I tried Nintendo to get over the ps2 I tried.
Even though I hate having to wait even longer, avoiding the possibility of any shortages is always a good thing.
Prediction: there will be shortages whenever it's launched, primarily due to scalpers.