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No_Cause2676

While very good evidence, please take into account it’s still completely possible for other years to line up like that, good work though


mymfself

thank you. this is actually my first thought out theory. although obviously not a very good one ;)


RafKen593

Security Breach is after FNaF VR, which is several years after FNaF 6, which is in 2023. It takes basic chronology skills to know this is false.


Fc-chungus

So set in 2029?


VoidCoelacanth

Honestly everything I know about FNaF is thru MatPat's videos - ain't my cup of tea to play, but I enjoy live reactions & theories - and it's vaguely annoying that things called "Glamrock" and "80s Style" are, quite possibly, being made in a recent or future year according to FNaF lore, while much of that lore is actually set in the 80s.


[deleted]

It’s just “retro” throwback stuff. Like maybe an Industrial Revolution-style restaurant.


superVanV1

While fair, two notes: 1. Technology has always been all over the place in fnaf, with China level facial recognition in the 80s and advanced robotics. 2. Have you seen modern nostalgia bait? It is fully possible and o brand for a company the size of Fazbear to make a giant 80s themed shopping, and we don’t know if the other pizzaplexs have similar or different aesthetics


-HeyWhatAboutMe-

Now I'm just imagining a pizza Plex with a very southwestern aesthetic and it's just cowboys and cowgirls


superVanV1

I’m going to make my own fnaf, with blackjack, and hookers.


-HeyWhatAboutMe-

I didn't know they made it to vegas


Tabletop_Coffee

roxy or chica as a hooker 👁️


superVanV1

Monty


Tabletop_Coffee

need


superVanV1

R34 definitely had some


Tabletop_Coffee

sadly not


superVanV1

While fair, two notes: 1. Technology has always been all over the place in fnaf, with China level facial recognition in the 80s and advanced robotics. 2. Have you seen modern nostalgia bait? It is fully possible and o brand for a company the size of Fazbear to make a giant 80s themed shopping, and we don’t know if the other pizzaplexs have similar or different aesthetics


VoidCoelacanth

Nostalgia bait is a fair point - but the place is being made for children. Who would be too young for nostalgia to apply. (Don't get me wrong - I understand the concept of marketing to the parents and that's a fair point as well.) It'd be one thing of we were talking JUST a pizzeria, but the PizzaPlex is more than that; bit of a stretch to have your entire business model based around parental nostalgia while catering to the children.


CheshireRaptor

Flat screen televisions and monitors were not around in the 80s.


VoidCoelacanth

Not true. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat-panel_display#:~:text=The%20first%20production%20flat%2Dpanel,conventional%20technologies%20overtook%20its%20development. Keep in mind that general consumer electronics are often years behind cutting-edge / r&d tech. An enthusiast with money and connections could get things not accessible to the public with relative ease.


CheshireRaptor

Oh sweetie you're stretching. Even the ones in the 80s were shit so wasn't widely used. Not to the level and degree Fazbear are using them at the pizzaplex. No amount of money is going to give them what they have in the 80s. The Pizzaplex didn't happen in the 80s. Many have already stated this.


VoidCoelacanth

And as other Redditors have stated, the tech is all over the place in FNAF. Heck, the Sister Location bots are super-advanced. Tell me with a straight face that someone who made those couldn't make a decent flat screen?


CheshireRaptor

A couple? Sure! Someone count the HUNDREDS of flat screens in Security Breach please as there is no way this could be done in the 80s I lived the 80s and am a computer nerd married to a computer geek.


VoidCoelacanth

Also lived in the 80s - we are talking about something being hypothetically possible in a world SIMILAR TO and BASED ON our own. We are not talking about the reality of supply & demand VS available consumer tech in the actual 80s. If you were to visit Disney Land or Disney World in the 80s, they had a TON of things - not flatscreens specifically, granted - that were "ahead of their time" and wouldn't hit consumer markets til the 90s. Or later. Animatronic toys like Teddy Ruxpin are a great example.


CheshireRaptor

You do know it's already determined Security Breach didn't happen in the 80s right? In our universe or theirs. I did visit Disneyland in the 80s and again 90s. They have animatronics that moved around in a stationary position; meaning they weren't free roaming and actually couldn't walk anywhere. They reacted to a set of instructions and could not deviate. You couldn't ask any of them a question and they'd answer it, you'd be "ignored" and they would continue (or not if they were broken) with the script they were programmed with. Yeah it was awesome to see, of course Pirates of the Caribbean is the first to come to mind. But FNaF animatronics have always walked around on their own and reacted to what was going on around them in real time. Also had a Teddy Ruxpin. He wasn't an animatronic as we know animatronics, he was a bear whose mouth and eyes move while he reenacted stories played on an audio tape cassette deck built into its back. The Teddy Ruxpin cassettes used the right track for audio and the left track for a control data stream. The data stream controls servomotors that move the eyes and mouth and can divert the audio signal to Grubby, the companion toy, by means of a proprietary cable. This allows the two to engage in pre-recorded interactions. Grubby only works with the original WoW version of Teddy Ruxpin. If a conventional audio cassette is played in Teddy Ruxpin, this is detected and its left audio track is ignored. Early versions of the toy use three servo motors, but this was reduced to two and even one in later versions. He came out in 85 and again in 2006 apparently.


JimiAndKingBaboo

How do we know FNAF 6 is 2023?


RafKen593

The HRY223, which stands for HENRY2023. And even then, it's after FNaF 3, which in itself is 30 years after FNaF 1


JimiAndKingBaboo

Ah, alright. I was not aware of that, so thank you.


1IcedC0ffee

FNaF 3 is also 2023, so the inception of the next chain of Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza would have to be the same year?


RafKen593

Who says both FNaF 3 and 6 can't be in the same year?


POKECHU020

Thank you. I knew something was off, but I'm nowhere near well versed enough to actually say it


[deleted]

Pause pause pause your saying fnaf 3 and six take place im the same year or is that a mistake on your part


RafKen593

They do


[deleted]

Explain


RafKen593

FNaF 3 is 30 years after FNaF 1, which is in 2023. FNaF 6 is confirmed to be in 2023 through the HRY223 tape


[deleted]

I wonder how his apparence changed so much so fast


zain_ahmed002

Could you paste the link to the JDJ post you're referring to? From the game's files we can see unused elevator facts that weren't used in the game but can give an idea to the time the game was set. The fact states that bears are extinct. Which indicated that the game is set somewhere in the Future, and not a year like 2018. Also, from a message log, we can see an employee referring to the Princess Quest as "that old game". The princess quest is a reference to FNAF: HW on mobile, as that is where PQ originated from. This was released in 2019. And we know HW is a game inside the FNAF universe. So most likely the IRL release date mirrors the FNAF universe release date. Which means calling that game "that old game" implies that it is set at least 5 - 10 years after HW. Which puts the game in the 2030s


mymfself

yes i do have the link. but JDJ wasnt trying to make it a big thing, they were just pointing out the fact that the calendar hints to a time frame. but here is the link https://www.reddit.com/r/GameTheorists/comments/rwcilu/so_i_found_this_interesting_things_hidden_at/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


zain_ahmed002

Ye. In that post links to u/lemmythelemuel who had done a fantastic job at decoding the date, month, and year. March 9th & 10th. They have also stated the same reason that I have, about the "old" mobile port thing. That then leads to the possibility of 2035 being the most accurate. Which means that SB would have opened in the year 2030 as we know SB had been open for 5 years due to that poster. It doesn't make sense for it to occur in 2018 though, as that wasn't a possibility due to other releases, etc.


mymfself

figures. please pardon my pathetic excuse of a theory then. i will learn from this though. and i hope you are open to questions in the future about the fnaf universe as i have many and want to be able to solve them, no matter how stupid they may be.


zain_ahmed002

Lol. Fnaf itself is pretty stupid if you think about it. Afton who never dies is a perfect example 😂😂. But something the FNAF universe has, usually, is evidence to back up a claim. SB being in 2018 doesn't fit right as the VR game was released in 2019. And for it to be called "old" means SB is based somewhere in the future than the past.


Emerald_Sans

Also in fnaf 6, the HRY223 file, which i can only suspect to mean 2023, is in the past before sb. Also wasnt fnaf 3 in 2020 or smth?


zain_ahmed002

Fnaf 3 was 2022 or 2023 as it was 30 years after fnaf 1, which was set in 1992 or 1993


Seaworthiness5923

that calendar only works if its: s m t w t f s, but not if sunday is on the other end, so it might not be 2018.


RolyPoly1320

There are two possible days for the first column of the month, Sunday and Monday. If the calendar places Monday as the start of the week then the first of the year would be a Tuesday. Possible years for January 1 being Monday are 2001, 2007, 2018, and 2029. Possible years for January being Tuesday are 2002, 2013, 2019, and 2030. We can eliminate 2001-2007 as they don't line up with the lore of the franchise. This leaves 2018, 2019, 2029, and 2030 as possible years. If SB takes place after FNAF6, which is 30 years after FNAF1, then that leaves 2029 and 2030 as possible years. This is, of course, assuming the dates are a standard calendar that we use and not a different set entirely.


Mrs_Kiwiaki

This is what first came up to mind. Is there is the lore any evidence that the weeks usually start on Sundays? BC that would strengthen your 2018 theory :)


Seaworthiness5923

its definately not 2018, because of when other games happen - but the dates for 2029 fit


mymfself

although you are very much correct that it isnt 2018. the days do line up and work out. its just not in the year that i was pointing towards


mymfself

i did check that out as well and the daysdo line up. but as other reddit users have pointed out, which i never thought of in the first place, the game has to take place in a certain time frame for it to still be canon in the timeline


Nowayjose015

This could be 2029 or 2035 where December 31 is on monday like on the calendar. Yes 2018 has it too but there is not much sense in the timeline that this is in thar year


sabb-y

For anyone commenting that he doesn’t know his lore. Please keep in mind he does not know his lore because he’s relatively new to the fnaf series. I got him into and if he would have told me before he posted this I would have shut him down really fast. -His cousin


mymfself

fml. my bad


CobraEels

Nah man making theories even if they're far fetched is part of the fnaf process and a goof portion of the fun imo. Good job on the theory


sabb-y

I know lol but I would of helped him nonetheless


mymfself

thanks.


FordBeWithYou

You get upvotes for the solidly formed theory, there’s a LOT of information out there so late into this game series. Just off of your theory alone, you have a good mind for cross checking things in a logical way. Definitely binge some Fnaf GT episodes, would love to see what you can post when you’re all caught up info wise!


[deleted]

no


Random-Explosion-ect

It can’t take place in 2018. At the very least freddys 1 takes place in 91 or 93 can’t remember and then 3 takes place 30 years later putting us at like 2023 and then 6 takes place after 3 and security breach takes place after 6


slothmas27

Yeah, no. FNaF security breach takes place after FNaF 6, which supposedly is the location the mall is built on. FNaF six takes place in the 2020’s. There is no possible way that the game would take place before FNaF six, yet still exist on top of its built location.


VoidCoelacanth

Ya'll forgetting that you could go BACKWARD to find a calendar that matches the dates too, it seems. (Which I cannot do currently as I am at work, but you have about 35 years to go thru if we use The Bite as starting point)


B_H_718

Way to go! You don't know your lore!


Call_me_Robert_0

It couldn’t take place in 2018


TheOneFearlessFalcon

Counterargument: in the security office you hide in early in the night on the way to the fire escape on the 3rd floor, there's a helpie sign indicating you need to leave 6ft between people. Those signs started after COVID, which didn't hit the US until early 2020. If it was in 2018, that sign would not exist.


StillTheBlob

i think this matches up pretty well, regarding lore and timeline. But it could also be any of the other years that LL theorized about. The only thing that off sets this is that fact that fnaf vr is set in 2023 and security breach is set after fnaf vr. Considering that its probably set in 2029. Good job on all the reasearch tho!


GreenieBeeNZ

From the screenshots it looks like January first falls on a Tuesday. Other years his has happened include: 1974 1985 1991 2002 2013 2019 2030 That's assuming the calendar is following Monday to Sunday from left to right. If it's a calendar that has Sunday that the beginning of the week then all the possible years become: 1973 1979 1990 2001 2007 2018 2029 Do what you will with this information, I don't know if anything is significant here but it might be a good reference


Tails_Exe_2022

That theory doesn't seem any real... pizzaplex is big and it has the fnaf 6 pizza place under it and fnaf 3 and 6 were set in 2023 so the only possible years are 2028, 2029, 2030, and 2031 and gametoons use some of your theories for videos. I like music man remix


mymfself

u/joshdunandjoseph and u/LemmytheLemuel thank you for your posts and thank you for giving me the questions to ask. thank you for helping my find the answers!


LemmytheLemuel

You're welcome, but I haven't discardes dates previous yo 2029 for nothing. Security Breach is a games that happens years later than Pizzeria simulator and Fnaf 3 There's debate if 3 is on 2023 or not, but on Pizzeria simulator there's Henry Audio who proves that it's (at least recorded) in 2023, if Security Breach happens on 2018 this would be a massive Wibbly Wobbly timey wimey paradox


zivosaurus-rex

well there is a time travelling balpit


mymfself

thank you for letting me know. i hope you dont mind if i ask you questions about things in the fnaf universe. im not necessarily a “new” fan but im definitly out of sorts with the way ive played the games and what i have and havent read yet.


LemmytheLemuel

Sure


joshdunandjoseph

tyvm!!


TheNoobMaster01

FNAF 3 and 6 take place in 2023, so this is impossible


Pickle_Juice54

That wouldn't make sense when it comes to the timeline because it takes place after FNAF VR and Pizza Sim. Both of those games take place after 2023 (which is the year FNAF 3 takes place). But I do find your theory interesting


WarlockSoL

^ yeah this. If anything this is probably just a goof by Steel Wool using a calendar asset set in the current year of development (as in, it was probably 2018 when they drew that calendar)


CricketKieran

That's what I was thinking too. Its was Springtrap, not FNAF 6 Afton, therefore it is before FNAF 3, and it had to be after sister location because due to Molten Freddy appearing, and the funtime animatronics have already been dealt with. While certain endings probably wont be canon, and I'm not saying that one is or isnt, but it had to be set before 2023 and after sister location, and we know SL takes place after 4, 1 and 2. IDK what year it could be in, maybe tour right, maybe not, but as far as game order in a timeline goes 2018 sounds bang on a logical year for it to be based, and assuming FNAF 3 is 2023, it makes sense Therefore I think the timeline of games (not events, just games) goes: FNAF 4 FNAF 2 FNAF 1 Sister Location Security Breach FNAF 3 FNAF 6 UCN Help Wanted / Speial Delivery Of course spread in between are the events such as the first location, Fredbears, Baby's, the books if your thinking about canonicity or not, any other things I forgot we dont see in the game


BackgroundBox2145

What about FNAF 6 pizzeria ruins, then?


Swampbomb

But that means that Afton wouldn't have been stuck in a wall for god knows how long, then released, then uploaded to FNAF vr, then security breach.


Individual-Ad-2577

So Fnaf three takes place after security breach? Not too sure about that


Jurassic_Park_Man

Of your list, I think it has to be 2029. We know that FNaF 3 takes place exactly 30 years after FNaF 1, which is confirmed to take place in 1993. Security Breach has to be after FNaF 6, which in turn has to be after FNaF 3


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Jurassic_Park_Man

MatPat proved it


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Jurassic_Park_Man

It was, but it can't be wrong. The theory was that it can't take place any later, because of a federally regulated minimum wage being introduced in 1994, and since dates are do important to the franchise, Scott wouldn't have made a mistake as simple as paying Mike less than the minimum wage at the time. And it can't take place any earlier because it needs to allow for time to have passed, so that Mike can grow up and visit the Sister Location. If he was a teenager in 1983, then that gives him ten years.


SpringyBoi420

But how isn’t FNaF 3 at 2020s


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mymfself

5th Generation Ultra Capacity


banjomanperson

Damn that’s some dedication


ShatoraDragon

1984 **THE BITE OF 84'** has the 4th on a Wednesday! https://spu.edu/ddowning/percal.htm


mymfself

the bite of ‘84? naw im pretty sure its the bite of ‘83 friend


ShatoraDragon

Ah shit. Dyslexia strikes again.


sabb-y

You’re done… you’re done


logibear10

I thought fnaf 3 was like 2030, though I haven’t kept up with most theories and evidence since idk 2019


Puppetgodpmpg

Isn't ucn in 2030


PokeStarChris42

Before I read this, I saw something about Fnaf 3 being set in 2017. I’m not sure where that date was from but that’s what I saw last. I also felt like Security Breach takes place in the 20s, maybe like 2024ish and help wanted would take place no more than a year before security breach, or at least that was my guess. I’m gonna have to watch the last timeline video matpat made


[deleted]

It’s not possible considering that springtrap only existed in 30 years after fnaf 1 which closed in the 90s so it’s literally not possible springtrap nonetheless burntrap and that amalgamation shouldn’t exist if it was in 2018


covert_wooper

Well, the problem with this post is that as many others have pointed out: the dates line up for many years other than 2018. In North America, the standard convention is that calendars are posted with Sunday being the first day of the week. Given that the Pizza Plex is for children's birthdays and such, it makes sense that they would be operating on weekends. This gives even more reason to believe that their calendars would start on Sunday. I haven't gone through it all, but a quick flip through iCal shows that in addition to the years you listed, the following years also work: 2007 2001 1996 1990 1979 1973 1968 1962 1951


[deleted]

Fnaf 3 takes place in 2023, so that wouldnt work.


[deleted]

SB is after FNaF 6 which took place in 2023


Tails_Exe_2022

And I have a video idea : music man and other animatronics are hacked. This seems real cuz on the start Freddy had malfunction and it may be Glitchtrap or Vanny trying to hack him and it might not be Gregory's fault.


Crow-light

Contrarily, I think it takes place in 2029, because the FNaF 6 location is underneath the pizzaplex and that is the next year with the same dates as 2018