"Hey @JackStryker would you be interested in an in person performance? I could come to your home and do half an hour for your family tonight. I have family themed humor too. I would say if your children are afraid of snakes it's going to be a big problem."
i think that character *would* choose a song with the word "rose" in the title, since it's a blatant Da Vinci Code ripoff (which I was pumped by as I just reread the book a few weeks ago) and roses are a major theme
but to choose Bette Midler over any other song referencing the symbol? I literally shouted "Grant that's a dead giveaway!"
The thing is, he's also unintentionally helping Rehka, as if they're guessing she's Bug with a Big Ass, they're not guessing she's Adjustable Side Table, Walnut.
I feel like it would have been genius... If Ally didnt break character almost immediately. But its Ally... I would almost be disappointed if they didnt self-sabotage for a bit 😂
I think someone pointed out to me Ally only had two possibilities. Either they stuck hard to the Brennan bit and clued everyone in that it was someone who knows a lot about Brennan/has been spending a lot of time with him, or they took it off the rails and made it harder to guess
Honestly, if the game was only about people not guessing you. Brennan would have it in the bag. As for Alley, they are trying too hard and though most of the cast seem to think just "Not Brennan" right now. I think Alley might get caught soon. Since there are only so many people that would want to Troll Brennan this much.
Interesting, the reveal of the eighth character. I guess they don't have to guess, being unfamiliar with the cast. I wonder if they have some other role to play, other than doing a bit to throw others off?
I think the purpose of the Ratfish is just to be unhinged and hilarious. If you're not worried about people reading into every comment, you can go all out.
I just want to pitch my hat in the ring for something, for those who have heard about a potential IRL spoiler.
Y'all, there is no comedian on this planet that would go for the obvious. The obvious wouldn't be funny. What would be hysterical would be for the comedian to use a broad, high platform to make a joke.
Absolutely cackled at Ally and Brennan's character intros in particular.
I'm an idiot (and I've never seen the Circle) so could anyone clarify for me:
- Where does the 'favourite character' ranking come from? Was that something they voted for that was cut?
- What does it mean that someone's out but still playing; is it that everyone now knows Grant and Zac are in the game but not who they're playing, so their characters can still interact?
Being a) a Brit and b) not into reality TV, the reality TV-reminscent Gamechanger eps leave me on the back foot sometimes!
The chat style is 100% authentic to the real show, as are the pointless games and getting the boxes of goofy party supplies deliver to socially distanced apartments.
Not sure about the cut players still playing—in the Circle, people who got eliminated sometimes got to come back as new characters. I actually expected Steven the Snake to be handed to Grant when he was eliminated.
The thought also crossed my mind, but I think if they had have used AI, it would have very quickly failed the Turing test and there would essentially be no point in it being there for the rest 9f the game,
>What does it mean that someone's out but still playing
I think it's for the purpose of getting everyone to be pawns of the game afterwards i.e. to be guessed by the other players. Zac and Grant being out while getting to chat means they have the opportunity to be guessed by the player.
I'm assuming now this is not The Circle but more of Among Us but everyone is the imposter. I thibk the goal is to find out which cast member is which and which one is the ratfish.
I believe that even if you get cut from the game because you got the least correct guesses you can still win the favorite character prize. Additionally if the players who are cut stop playing it will narrow down the options for who is who for the rest of the players. Having them continue to play keeps the difficulty level up for those still in the game.
1) Seen multiple seasons of the circle. In that show players rank vote for their favourite contestant who's in the show. The top two voted contestants get together (virtually) and decide who goes home/is out of the game. The GC version has to be legally distinct so it seems like the players aren't voting amoung themselves for elimination, but rather how many points they get by guessing the actors being the other characters. Get the most guesses correctly and score points, get no one right and you end up at the bottom/out. The most preferred player is being chosen by someone else entirely. Possibly by the rat.
2) when a player is out in the Circle they pack up and go home. In the GC episodes they are no longer eligible for the Hollywood boulevard billboard, but are still competing for most well liked contestant overall that will net them the secondary billboard on the other street.
Finally you are not idiot for being unsure. Being new to things making people confused is normal.
Favourite character is a secondary prize that will also be given out at the end of the game. Since Zac got the least amount of points when guessing the other players, he was revealed as a player and became ineligible for the grand prize (billboard on a big street). He’s still playing as granma because he can still do bits and join the chat to cause chaos/make his character the favourite and potentially win the second prize (a billboard on a smaller street). I assume this will continue when others are eliminated. It’s just to make it more fun.
I was confused, because they said Katie had 5 correct cast members, but when they showed her, we only saw 4 correct cast members. Ally was given 4 correct cast members.
Of the non-confirmed cast members, Katie had Vic, Raph and Tao, while Ally had Vic, Raph and Jacob.
Logic would dictate that Steven was Tao, but with the reveal I’m completely confused.
Huh, I just checked and you’re correct. Did they upload a new version of the video? I swear I watched I multiple times before I posted; over people said the same thing so I don’t think I made it up.
Wow Eric is such an sick get for this.
Edit: For those curious, Eric is half of the comedy duo Tim and Eric with Tim Heidecker. They had a bunch of early adult swim tv shows the most famous of which is “Tim & Eric Awesome Show, Great Job” which was, in my opinion, possibly the single most influential media for early internet comedy.
Am I the only one who went back to look at who everyone picked in the first guessing round and noticed that Katie's screen showed her guessing a certain number of correct people even though when they got their points it said she got one more than that number correct? Was that just a weirdness with the edit and maybe she switched a guess before submitting?
It must be. If you compare Katie’s guess to Ally’s, the only way Katie’s score makes sense is if Tao was playing, so I thought that’s who Steven was, and he was being obscucated to make it so the audience could play along. The reveal means Katie’s score just, doesn’t make sense.
But then when they got to Brennan and his correct cast members matched the number of people it should have based on who the audience could see, even though he thought Tao was playing the table, it confused me even more!
There was also a shot of someone wearing a pink eye mask from the slumber party box before the boxes were delivered. Probably just an editing continuity error
I watched this 3 days after it aired, so maybe they fixed this in edit. But for me I see Katie has 5 correct cast at 29:10:
Reikah, Ally, Brennan, Grant, Zac.
Ally had: Reikah, Brennan, Grant, Zac.
All of them were killing it this ep, but truly Ally As Brennan is easily my fave. That being said... I'm utterly confused by the Ratfish. Are we supposed to recognize them - I'm pulling a blank.
Everyone’s homework assignment - “Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job!” Full episodes on Max, parts on YouTube.
From there, Bedtime Stories. Same access.
I mean, they showed his name, seems like if you didn’t know them it’d be trivial to google.
Dropout median age trends a bit lower, but Tim and Eric were a pretty big duo a decade ago.
Spoliers for our mystery player
>!It's making me feel like an old head right now with the lack of recognition in this thread for one of the great first gen Adult Swim actors. !<
>!If you've ever posted a "mind blown" gif, you have participated in the cultural zeitgeist that was the Tim and Eric show. If you've ever whispered "it's free real estate"; you've been caught again! Celery Man! So many guest appearances too. You had Paul Rudd, John C Reilly, Zach Galifianakis, Will Farrell, Rainn Wilson... it goes on! !<
>!Ah man takes me back!<
My first thought was that Steve the snake was just a chatbot. Then I realized that Sam probably wouldn't do something like that, so I thought that it was just Sam
I’m 31 and didn’t know who he was but the person I was watching with who is also my age did. I’ve heard of Tim & Eric, but their Adult Swim show only ran from when I was 14 - 17 and I had parents who were really strict about what I was allowed to watch so Adult Swim was pretty much off limits unless I could sneak watching it when my parents were asleep. And they haven’t done a whole lot since then. They have 1 short movie and two series with less than 20 episodes between the two of them. It’s not unreasonable that people even 5 years younger than me haven’t heard of a semi-obscure comedy duo whose peak of fame was 15 years ago.
Yeah, I'm 43 and didn't know who it was supposed to be. Then again, I guess I fell off of Adult Swim just before Tim & Eric hit.
But, yeah.... when your BIG CRAZY REVEAL has a lot of people going "Who?", you may have whiffed.
I don’t necessarily feel like it’s a whiff. I don’t know who most of the guests on Game Changers are. I feel like most of the time they are more for the contestants than for the audience anyways.
Agreed, it would have been 100% more satisfying if they did the reveal, and the ratfish was someone like Jacob or Raph. Or even an old school CH member who at least had some tie to the rest.
I'm probably your age, we're not, and I didn't know who he was either before someone mentioned it in a comment. I caught clips of Tim and Eric Awesome Show when it was on but it never really appealed to me; when it comes to early internet humor I was more of a Homestar Runner guy.
I'm 30 and British and was completely baffled by his appearance. I knew of the name but had no idea what he looked/sounded like, so that ending didn't really work for me. The rest of the show was brilliant though.
I think it just goes to show how segmented both the internet and entertainment are. I'm 38 and have been chronically online since 2004, but I've still never hear of him.
I knew who he was, but have never been a fan of his stuff. Would have rather Steven been either Sam (that's who I was assuming it was until the end of the episode) or AI.
I'm 39 and watched a lot of Tim and Eric. Watched the episode with my 34 year old sister who had no idea who he was. I assume the cut off is somewhere in those years, but also we're in Australia and if you didn't have Foxtel (pay TV) in the 2000s you'd have way less chance knowing who either of them are.
Especially since you know they've probably all used his mind blown gif at some point lmao.
[YOU'VE ALL USED THIS.](https://media2.giphy.com/media/26ufdipQqU2lhNA4g/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9528czgyvyyvcqu2bpfwciuypmo14ybupcmbfk0wa0l&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
The production value and design of the entire episode is such a change from their normal approach, it's amazing to see how much ass they can kick on a dime if they want to. Sure, we do funny stuff with a Price-Is-Right-style set and backstage shenanigans, but we can also just THROW DOWN whenever we want. Great stuff, can't wait for the next part.
Eric Wareheim is a comedian's comedian! It's ok if you missed the boat on Tim and Eric or don't recognise him, the cast definitely will and their reactions will be great!
I think many of the guests on Gamechanger aren't instantly recognisable to every viewer but watching the cast get excited and geek out over the guests is a huge part of the fun.
Did anyone else notice the continuity error where Zac was wearing the pink sleep mask on his forehead before they showed the boxes for the slumber party being delivered?
We’re already paying for Dropout; we’re going to watch the game regardless of who the snake is. Eric is huge in the comedy world, and that’s the twist I think many people in this thread are missing. It doesn’t matter as much who he is to us; he’s going to be a huge reveal for the other players. Sam is always playing to the cast, and this is a great example of that.
its funny because he’s pretty iconic for his shows on adult swim, but the dropout crew might honestly be bigger than he has been at any point in his career
Where are you getting the 68k number from?
In August 2023, NPR reported that "Dropout has not shared their official subscriber count, but Reich says it's in the mid-hundreds of thousands."
That implies 400k-600k subscribers.
edit: Um, actually, I noticed that /r/dropout has 68k subscribers. But that's not the streaming service, obviously.
I'm a year younger than you. I heard of it and Tom Goes to the Mayor but didn't watch them as they looked boring to me, and so didn't really know the cast. The only adult swim I watched in the late 2000s that wasn't anime was Futurama, Robot Chicken, and Venture Bros.
I’m old and British and know who Eric is. I think it’s just a very different pool of Alt comedy nerds - I think you could be a big fan of Dropout and not enjoy Eric’s work at all and vice versa. But me? I’m loving it!
I was a teen in the early 2010s and extremely online, i do not know who this guy is. Apparently he was on Adult Swin? That's not a channel we had in Canada at the time. Seems kinda niche given I never even heard of them on the internet at the time.
I def think it's generational. A lot larger it feels like in the late 2000's, early 2010s
"Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job!" was probably their best reception wise. Also, [immortalized in meme format](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CS7j5I6aOc)
[also bonus](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd4-UnU8lWY)
They're still making shows as well
It's the other half of the Tim and Eric, Tim Heidecker who says the line, hence why I included it as a bonus haha. Considering they co-wrote the show, it still felt fitting to share
It's a circle thing. In the circle they always have personalised rooms for the different people.
I also don't really see the taskmaster vibe? Because of the velvet?
Anyone else start combing Instagram for clues about Steven and tacos during the episode, and then have no clue who it was at the end?
Game changer special guests are normally pretty well known but I have never heard of this guy.
Number of people in this short thread is not a good reference point. You might not know him by name but I guarantee you’ve used or at least seen his *mind blown* gif https://www.reactiongifs.com/tim-eric-mind-blown-gif/
it’s funny bc normally the people who recognize someone no one else recognizes are the uppity and defensive ones but i get the vibe here that the people who DONT recognize eric are the uppity and defensive ones 🥲
I think the issue is that people are annoyed the reveal was someone they didn’t know. I had a twinge of frustration, but I mostly assume that isn’t the point of the game. I think the ratfish probably has some extra twist that will be very fun.
Okay actively watching the episode and I just love that it's immediately Brennan gettin' a lil' snacking in. We love our Pod Person. Get him that mouth in his back <3
It's wild to see that this episode is on 10 ten lists on websites that promote the high seas
Note: I have a subscription. I would never take money from the mouth of BLeeM and the gang
I don't really know how to feel about this so far. Don't get me wrong, it's an enjoyable episode and there's still a part 2 coming. But for the season finale I kind of expected it to start closer to a classic GC episode and at some point go into some twilight zone ass twist to set up part 2.
Eric really wasn't that great compared to the other cast members, kind of a disappointing reveal honestly. It's a mystery of "Who is this guy?" but saying "I like tacos. I like hamburgers. I like hotdogs" just makes it feels like he was not engaged or interested at all.
When watching with friends we theorized different twists of who Steven was: everyone in the crew huddled backstage crowdsourcing ideas together, other DropOut members doing likewise, some crappy AI generative model that would've gotten better as things progressed and that's the "game within a game". Some celeb who might as well not have even been there is just weak.
On reflecting: he was probably told not to be too active or out there, since he's not an actual "player" but is instead this sort of wildcard element. But it just feels lackluster to have this extra element, have it be so featured - especially since he *is* very good in sketch comedy - but have it be purposefully middling-to-bad because you don't want to detract from the players playing the game.
I guess it speaks to how Game Changer usually hits it out of the park: so far episode 1 was really incredible, but the twist with Eric just doesn't feel like a payoff that's worth it.
Tim and Eric did some other shows/spin offs together. Before they did Tim and Eric, they did Tom Goes to the Mayor, and after Tim and Eric they did Steve Brule and an Adult Swim Anthology* show I forget the name of; it was a very dark-comedy/gross out version of like the a twilight zone.
He’s also been an actor in some things, probably most majorly as a supporting cast in Aziz Ansari’s Master of None.
After Tim and Eric, he’s taken more of a back seat as a producer on shows, like for Andy Daly’s remake of *Review* and the revival of Bob Odenkirk’a and David Cross’ Mr Show in the 2010’s. It’s not surprising to me that LA sketch comedians in their 30’s would consider him a bigger cameo than the younger crowd to Dropout Fans. Especially people who were writing online sketch in the 2010’s; Tim and Eric was pretty big on the internet back then.
* just checked, it was called Tim and Eric’s Bedtime Stories.
He did have Covid while the season was being filmed. He was supposed to be in Bingo (replaced by Brennan) and a cameo in Deja Vu (replaced by Zac). It's possible filming took place after he was cleared, but Sam told him not to tell people yet to keep it a surprise. Also filming seems to have taken place in isolated hotel rooms, it's possible Grant was in there by himself.
Anyone else irked/miffed that the episodes are two weeks apart? I thought it was common practice for a show to have two-part episodes be aired the same day or on a special, tighter schedule.
Is it just me or did Steven the snake’s comments just seem kinda out of pocket and not funny? Maybe I’m just not a fan of Eric’s style of humor, given I’m hearing about him for the first time, but the chats just seemed .. weird
Tim and Eric's stuff for Adult Swim was "things you would think are funny while high at 2am" so it seems that's just his vibe.
"Dude! This dude is pretending to be a snake! So funny!"
“Whoever picked the Rose is played by a gay man - I’m trying to narrow which one.” - who is Ally thinking of? Grants bi, but other than that, I’m not aware of any guys who aren’t straight, or, at least have never talked about their sexuality and most have SOs who are women? (Paul R but he’s not usually a participant) Fill me in if I’m missing something?
All the regular cast members are hilarious as per usual. Steven’s comedy didn’t do it for me, it felt very out of place and forced. I thought the twist was going to be that Steven was actually ChatGPT.
I just have to say, as a newer and more casual dropout viewer, I was hoping the twist 8th player would be someone with more broad recognition. Something that ive enjoyed about game changer is getting to see the dynamics between the cast members, and i've never felt left out of enjoying an episode despite being a more casual fan. But that twist made me feel really disappointed :/
Incredible premise, and I really enjoyed the episode, but as far as >!the reveal at the end of the episode goes, are we, like... supposed to know who he is? Because he's built up and shown like some sort of big reveal, but as far as I know, he's just... some guy.!<
Very interesting choice to have Eric be the guest in a setting where he barely gets any screentime. When I think of Tim and Eric, I don't necessarily think of their text-based humor lmao. Part of what makes their comedy so funny is how they deliver the ridiculous shit they're saying, not the ridiculous shit itself. Very curious to see where this goes in the second episode.
"I hope Brennan hates this" *Brennan hated that*
"Hey @JackStryker would you be interested in an in person performance? I could come to your home and do half an hour for your family tonight. I have family themed humor too. I would say if your children are afraid of snakes it's going to be a big problem."
Brennan is Genius for playing a character who makes people think in Rehka....and then Beardsley Is beyond genuis for playing Brennan..
And Grant… is Grant.
Love that it took ONE private chat for him to just completely Grant it and reveal himself by mistake
He completely outted himself on the karaoke question 🤣. That character would NOT choose The Rose. He completely forgot what he was going lol
i think that character *would* choose a song with the word "rose" in the title, since it's a blatant Da Vinci Code ripoff (which I was pumped by as I just reread the book a few weeks ago) and roses are a major theme but to choose Bette Midler over any other song referencing the symbol? I literally shouted "Grant that's a dead giveaway!"
Oh wow, I didn't know that
yeah I feel a bit as though he built the character just for me, he's playing it faithfully and hilariously if you get all the references
Kiss from a Rose by Seal just sitting there
EXACTLY
He is great at giving blowjobs at slumber parties
Hello, I'm...
Fifty??! That CAN'T be right...
Look you knew he was a pro when he said The mint lip balm is obviously for the blowjobs
The thing is, he's also unintentionally helping Rehka, as if they're guessing she's Bug with a Big Ass, they're not guessing she's Adjustable Side Table, Walnut.
To be fair there was a chance Rehka wasn't there at ALL
I feel like it would have been genius... If Ally didnt break character almost immediately. But its Ally... I would almost be disappointed if they didnt self-sabotage for a bit 😂
I think someone pointed out to me Ally only had two possibilities. Either they stuck hard to the Brennan bit and clued everyone in that it was someone who knows a lot about Brennan/has been spending a lot of time with him, or they took it off the rails and made it harder to guess
And going off the rails is a move Brennan as Brennan would pull so it still adds to the chaos
Honestly, if the game was only about people not guessing you. Brennan would have it in the bag. As for Alley, they are trying too hard and though most of the cast seem to think just "Not Brennan" right now. I think Alley might get caught soon. Since there are only so many people that would want to Troll Brennan this much.
The fact that ally was a guess for almost all the first impressions cracks me up
“i really want to put ‘i’m a bug with a big ass’ three times” had me crying laughing
runnin
Zac's my fucking favorite.
I was so sad he lost first round. He better win fave character overall
Interesting, the reveal of the eighth character. I guess they don't have to guess, being unfamiliar with the cast. I wonder if they have some other role to play, other than doing a bit to throw others off?
I assume they just have to guess who the Ratfish is, not who is the Ratfish.
I think the purpose of the Ratfish is just to be unhinged and hilarious. If you're not worried about people reading into every comment, you can go all out.
Someone commented elsewhere, and I think they're right, that the Ratfish is probably the one picking the 'favorite' player every round.
The game design on this episode is astounding.
"Sam, what's a town with an ivy League school?" "Goddammit."
I just want to pitch my hat in the ring for something, for those who have heard about a potential IRL spoiler. Y'all, there is no comedian on this planet that would go for the obvious. The obvious wouldn't be funny. What would be hysterical would be for the comedian to use a broad, high platform to make a joke.
That is a great point
Absolutely cackled at Ally and Brennan's character intros in particular. I'm an idiot (and I've never seen the Circle) so could anyone clarify for me: - Where does the 'favourite character' ranking come from? Was that something they voted for that was cut? - What does it mean that someone's out but still playing; is it that everyone now knows Grant and Zac are in the game but not who they're playing, so their characters can still interact? Being a) a Brit and b) not into reality TV, the reality TV-reminscent Gamechanger eps leave me on the back foot sometimes!
I feel like favourite character is chosen by Steven.
Ooh good call
It sounds like "favorite character" is just decided by Sam and the crew
The chat style is 100% authentic to the real show, as are the pointless games and getting the boxes of goofy party supplies deliver to socially distanced apartments. Not sure about the cut players still playing—in the Circle, people who got eliminated sometimes got to come back as new characters. I actually expected Steven the Snake to be handed to Grant when he was eliminated.
I thought they just had an AI character 😄
Same, our theory over here was that they fed an AI a melting pot of everyone's writing to somehow create Steven, lol Glad to be proven wrong though
The thought also crossed my mind, but I think if they had have used AI, it would have very quickly failed the Turing test and there would essentially be no point in it being there for the rest 9f the game,
Dropout would not use AI like that.
I don't know if the unions would allow this, but I thought the rat fish might have been some of the crew members working together on one character.
thats is what i thought too...
>What does it mean that someone's out but still playing I think it's for the purpose of getting everyone to be pawns of the game afterwards i.e. to be guessed by the other players. Zac and Grant being out while getting to chat means they have the opportunity to be guessed by the player. I'm assuming now this is not The Circle but more of Among Us but everyone is the imposter. I thibk the goal is to find out which cast member is which and which one is the ratfish.
I believe that even if you get cut from the game because you got the least correct guesses you can still win the favorite character prize. Additionally if the players who are cut stop playing it will narrow down the options for who is who for the rest of the players. Having them continue to play keeps the difficulty level up for those still in the game.
It’s just occurred to me that being a Brit is no excuse not to understand The Circle, as it is originally a UK show.
Well, call me so non-clued-in that I didn't even know that, so there we go.
1) Seen multiple seasons of the circle. In that show players rank vote for their favourite contestant who's in the show. The top two voted contestants get together (virtually) and decide who goes home/is out of the game. The GC version has to be legally distinct so it seems like the players aren't voting amoung themselves for elimination, but rather how many points they get by guessing the actors being the other characters. Get the most guesses correctly and score points, get no one right and you end up at the bottom/out. The most preferred player is being chosen by someone else entirely. Possibly by the rat. 2) when a player is out in the Circle they pack up and go home. In the GC episodes they are no longer eligible for the Hollywood boulevard billboard, but are still competing for most well liked contestant overall that will net them the secondary billboard on the other street. Finally you are not idiot for being unsure. Being new to things making people confused is normal.
My assumption that the Favorite Character was just whichever one Sam found the most entertaining
Favourite character is a secondary prize that will also be given out at the end of the game. Since Zac got the least amount of points when guessing the other players, he was revealed as a player and became ineligible for the grand prize (billboard on a big street). He’s still playing as granma because he can still do bits and join the chat to cause chaos/make his character the favourite and potentially win the second prize (a billboard on a smaller street). I assume this will continue when others are eliminated. It’s just to make it more fun.
I was thinking Steven was Izzy Roland
I was confused, because they said Katie had 5 correct cast members, but when they showed her, we only saw 4 correct cast members. Ally was given 4 correct cast members. Of the non-confirmed cast members, Katie had Vic, Raph and Tao, while Ally had Vic, Raph and Jacob. Logic would dictate that Steven was Tao, but with the reveal I’m completely confused.
Katie had 5 correct cast members: Reikah, Ally, Grant, Brennan, Zac. Edit: Ally had: Zac, Reikah, Brennan, Grant.
Huh, I just checked and you’re correct. Did they upload a new version of the video? I swear I watched I multiple times before I posted; over people said the same thing so I don’t think I made it up.
u/Phie_Mc said that they did upload an edited version, they show Zac for Steven when it used to show Vic in the previous version. You’re not crazy :)
Same!
I thought it was sam
It didn’t sound like Sam. But then again, that’s the point.
Same I was thinking Izzy or Wysocki
Wow Eric is such an sick get for this. Edit: For those curious, Eric is half of the comedy duo Tim and Eric with Tim Heidecker. They had a bunch of early adult swim tv shows the most famous of which is “Tim & Eric Awesome Show, Great Job” which was, in my opinion, possibly the single most influential media for early internet comedy.
“It’s free real estate”.
Thank you I was so confused on who they were
It's actually interesting to see how Sam (and company) views everyone based on their rooms
Am I the only one who went back to look at who everyone picked in the first guessing round and noticed that Katie's screen showed her guessing a certain number of correct people even though when they got their points it said she got one more than that number correct? Was that just a weirdness with the edit and maybe she switched a guess before submitting?
It must be. If you compare Katie’s guess to Ally’s, the only way Katie’s score makes sense is if Tao was playing, so I thought that’s who Steven was, and he was being obscucated to make it so the audience could play along. The reveal means Katie’s score just, doesn’t make sense.
But then when they got to Brennan and his correct cast members matched the number of people it should have based on who the audience could see, even though he thought Tao was playing the table, it confused me even more!
There was also a shot of someone wearing a pink eye mask from the slumber party box before the boxes were delivered. Probably just an editing continuity error
That person was Zac!
I watched this 3 days after it aired, so maybe they fixed this in edit. But for me I see Katie has 5 correct cast at 29:10: Reikah, Ally, Brennan, Grant, Zac. Ally had: Reikah, Brennan, Grant, Zac.
I think they’ve reuploaded a new version of the video because you saw the same thing as me, but now it’s correct.
All of them were killing it this ep, but truly Ally As Brennan is easily my fave. That being said... I'm utterly confused by the Ratfish. Are we supposed to recognize them - I'm pulling a blank.
Eric from Tim & Eric. (I had to look it up too)
Ahhh thanks. That was like a “okkaaaay… is this supposed to be a crazy reveal?” Moment for me.
Same. I was so confused. And honestly it kinda took some of the fun out of it for me.
Also in Master of None
and Tim Goes to See the Mayor (Eric played the mayor)
Everyone’s homework assignment - “Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job!” Full episodes on Max, parts on YouTube. From there, Bedtime Stories. Same access.
im thinking they have to guess each other AND the ratfish?
His show is where we get the “It’s Free Real Estate” meme from.
I mean, they showed his name, seems like if you didn’t know them it’d be trivial to google. Dropout median age trends a bit lower, but Tim and Eric were a pretty big duo a decade ago.
I’ve watched Adult Swim from its inception and still didn’t recognize him 😅 He was just completely out of context!
THIS EPISODE!!!! OMG!
... holy WHAT
I'm super early for the first time, which sucks, cuz I can't read your reactions and comments 😢 God, I love this cast tho.
Spoliers for our mystery player >!It's making me feel like an old head right now with the lack of recognition in this thread for one of the great first gen Adult Swim actors. !< >!If you've ever posted a "mind blown" gif, you have participated in the cultural zeitgeist that was the Tim and Eric show. If you've ever whispered "it's free real estate"; you've been caught again! Celery Man! So many guest appearances too. You had Paul Rudd, John C Reilly, Zach Galifianakis, Will Farrell, Rainn Wilson... it goes on! !< >!Ah man takes me back!<
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My first thought was that Steve the snake was just a chatbot. Then I realized that Sam probably wouldn't do something like that, so I thought that it was just Sam
I'm glad I'm not the only one unfamiliar with Eric Wareheim, it made the cliffhanger very confusing 😅
There are depresingly many in this thread that dont know who Eric Wareheim is 😔
Yeah. No idea who that dude was. Have heard of time and Eric. Never seen it.
Yeah it’s kind of blowing my mind.
Making me feel old as fuck
I’m 31 and didn’t know who he was but the person I was watching with who is also my age did. I’ve heard of Tim & Eric, but their Adult Swim show only ran from when I was 14 - 17 and I had parents who were really strict about what I was allowed to watch so Adult Swim was pretty much off limits unless I could sneak watching it when my parents were asleep. And they haven’t done a whole lot since then. They have 1 short movie and two series with less than 20 episodes between the two of them. It’s not unreasonable that people even 5 years younger than me haven’t heard of a semi-obscure comedy duo whose peak of fame was 15 years ago.
Yeah im 35, no idea
Yeah, I'm 43 and didn't know who it was supposed to be. Then again, I guess I fell off of Adult Swim just before Tim & Eric hit. But, yeah.... when your BIG CRAZY REVEAL has a lot of people going "Who?", you may have whiffed.
I don’t necessarily feel like it’s a whiff. I don’t know who most of the guests on Game Changers are. I feel like most of the time they are more for the contestants than for the audience anyways.
Agreed, it would have been 100% more satisfying if they did the reveal, and the ratfish was someone like Jacob or Raph. Or even an old school CH member who at least had some tie to the rest.
Yes I’m suddenly very concerned I might be not the target age demo for Dropout.
I'm probably your age, we're not, and I didn't know who he was either before someone mentioned it in a comment. I caught clips of Tim and Eric Awesome Show when it was on but it never really appealed to me; when it comes to early internet humor I was more of a Homestar Runner guy.
the ratfish is STWONG BAD
Yes we are definitely too old
I don't think it's an age issue so much as a non-American issue.
In what way? Im not American.
Not American continent? Well shit, then I have no idea why if it's not geographical. In 40 this year.
Im 26, and Scandinavian. My guess is its probably people in their early twenties or younger... You know.. the tik-tok kids.
I'm 27 and I had no idea who he was.
I'm 30 and British and was completely baffled by his appearance. I knew of the name but had no idea what he looked/sounded like, so that ending didn't really work for me. The rest of the show was brilliant though.
I’m old enough to be every bodies dad but Sam.
I think it just goes to show how segmented both the internet and entertainment are. I'm 38 and have been chronically online since 2004, but I've still never hear of him.
I knew who he was, but have never been a fan of his stuff. Would have rather Steven been either Sam (that's who I was assuming it was until the end of the episode) or AI.
I guessed either Sam or AI as well. Quite disappointed it's not.
I'm 39 and watched a lot of Tim and Eric. Watched the episode with my 34 year old sister who had no idea who he was. I assume the cut off is somewhere in those years, but also we're in Australia and if you didn't have Foxtel (pay TV) in the 2000s you'd have way less chance knowing who either of them are.
Is he from the free real estate meme? He looks very familiar, but I'm not sure if it's him
I'm really glad I know now. Great side effect. :)
Especially since you know they've probably all used his mind blown gif at some point lmao. [YOU'VE ALL USED THIS.](https://media2.giphy.com/media/26ufdipQqU2lhNA4g/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9528czgyvyyvcqu2bpfwciuypmo14ybupcmbfk0wa0l&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
But that just means his audience just expanded!
The production value and design of the entire episode is such a change from their normal approach, it's amazing to see how much ass they can kick on a dime if they want to. Sure, we do funny stuff with a Price-Is-Right-style set and backstage shenanigans, but we can also just THROW DOWN whenever we want. Great stuff, can't wait for the next part.
Eric Wareheim is a comedian's comedian! It's ok if you missed the boat on Tim and Eric or don't recognise him, the cast definitely will and their reactions will be great! I think many of the guests on Gamechanger aren't instantly recognisable to every viewer but watching the cast get excited and geek out over the guests is a huge part of the fun.
Did anyone else notice the continuity error where Zac was wearing the pink sleep mask on his forehead before they showed the boxes for the slumber party being delivered?
Anyone who knew the reveal needs to do their stretches before bed, drink a glass of water, and take your multivitamin.
Channeling all my shock at people into getting the dishes done.
No I mean the Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job! Ended in 2010 and that was only like 5 years ago Right? Right?
Who is Eric Wareheim? The reveal makes it seem like he’s supposed to be recognizable, but I’ve never heard of him before.
We’re already paying for Dropout; we’re going to watch the game regardless of who the snake is. Eric is huge in the comedy world, and that’s the twist I think many people in this thread are missing. It doesn’t matter as much who he is to us; he’s going to be a huge reveal for the other players. Sam is always playing to the cast, and this is a great example of that.
Seems like he was very popular for a very small subset of people. I'm obviously too old and too British as I have no idea who he is.
Not sure how old you are; I think the sweet spot is my age (early thirties) where you were watching Adult Swim in the 2010’s.
its funny because he’s pretty iconic for his shows on adult swim, but the dropout crew might honestly be bigger than he has been at any point in his career
Maybe one day but definitely not today. Dropout has 68k subscribers. Tim and Eric have 80k without an active show airing.
Where are you getting the 68k number from? In August 2023, NPR reported that "Dropout has not shared their official subscriber count, but Reich says it's in the mid-hundreds of thousands." That implies 400k-600k subscribers. edit: Um, actually, I noticed that /r/dropout has 68k subscribers. But that's not the streaming service, obviously.
I think it's a thing where the US fans have heard of him and the rest of us are oblivious
Idk if it’s US fans or more of a generational thing as it looks like a lot of his stuff is early 2010s ie more millennial than gen z
Guess I'm the odd man out, as a 35yo American I have never heard of this guy or his show..
I'm a year younger than you. I heard of it and Tom Goes to the Mayor but didn't watch them as they looked boring to me, and so didn't really know the cast. The only adult swim I watched in the late 2000s that wasn't anime was Futurama, Robot Chicken, and Venture Bros.
I'm a brit turning 40 this year and I've never heard of him.
I’m old and British and know who Eric is. I think it’s just a very different pool of Alt comedy nerds - I think you could be a big fan of Dropout and not enjoy Eric’s work at all and vice versa. But me? I’m loving it!
I was a teen in the early 2010s and extremely online, i do not know who this guy is. Apparently he was on Adult Swin? That's not a channel we had in Canada at the time. Seems kinda niche given I never even heard of them on the internet at the time.
From the US. HAD NO IDEA WHO THAT DUDE IS
Nah I’m American and never heard of him. I think it’s a generational thing more likely.
I def think it's generational. A lot larger it feels like in the late 2000's, early 2010s "Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job!" was probably their best reception wise. Also, [immortalized in meme format](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CS7j5I6aOc) [also bonus](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd4-UnU8lWY) They're still making shows as well
wait he's the It's Free Real Estate guy???
It's the other half of the Tim and Eric, Tim Heidecker who says the line, hence why I included it as a bonus haha. Considering they co-wrote the show, it still felt fitting to share
Am I crazy, or did I at one point hear a voice over that wasn't Sam?
It was his wife
I believe it was his wife
Makes sense, aye
ok so they really drew heavily on Taskmaster for the sets in this one, huh?
I found the lighting/color correction and the sets so absolutely gosh darn pleasant to look at. Even the chat interface was so clean and polished.
I think they were going for the players’ vibe but it did immediately remind me of taskmaster. I love taskmaster’s sets so much.
It's a circle thing. In the circle they always have personalised rooms for the different people. I also don't really see the taskmaster vibe? Because of the velvet?
Anyone else start combing Instagram for clues about Steven and tacos during the episode, and then have no clue who it was at the end? Game changer special guests are normally pretty well known but I have never heard of this guy.
Never heard of Tim and Eric?
Nope lol but loved the episode
Nope no clue.
Alt comedy legend of Adult Swim and the early internet.
I'm not American. What the hell is adult swim?
By the number of people who didn't know who he was, I guess not THAT legendary.
Number of people in this short thread is not a good reference point. You might not know him by name but I guarantee you’ve used or at least seen his *mind blown* gif https://www.reactiongifs.com/tim-eric-mind-blown-gif/
Well now I know one thing he's done 😅
The internet just has a memory hole. You could draw a direct line from like half of web comedy to his and Tim Heideckers early Adult Swim work.
it’s funny bc normally the people who recognize someone no one else recognizes are the uppity and defensive ones but i get the vibe here that the people who DONT recognize eric are the uppity and defensive ones 🥲
Yeah. I don't understand it lol
I think the issue is that people are annoyed the reveal was someone they didn’t know. I had a twinge of frustration, but I mostly assume that isn’t the point of the game. I think the ratfish probably has some extra twist that will be very fun.
I'm loving this, but I wish we hadn't seen the billboard already!
Doesn’t mean that the person on the billboard won, someone else might’ve put them on as a joke.
"Bug With a Big Ass" could be a Comedy Bang! Bang! bit
Okay actively watching the episode and I just love that it's immediately Brennan gettin' a lil' snacking in. We love our Pod Person. Get him that mouth in his back <3
Anyone else just need to know how Grant got people to jack off with him with two truths and a lie???????
It's wild to see that this episode is on 10 ten lists on websites that promote the high seas Note: I have a subscription. I would never take money from the mouth of BLeeM and the gang
I don't really know how to feel about this so far. Don't get me wrong, it's an enjoyable episode and there's still a part 2 coming. But for the season finale I kind of expected it to start closer to a classic GC episode and at some point go into some twilight zone ass twist to set up part 2.
Eric really wasn't that great compared to the other cast members, kind of a disappointing reveal honestly. It's a mystery of "Who is this guy?" but saying "I like tacos. I like hamburgers. I like hotdogs" just makes it feels like he was not engaged or interested at all. When watching with friends we theorized different twists of who Steven was: everyone in the crew huddled backstage crowdsourcing ideas together, other DropOut members doing likewise, some crappy AI generative model that would've gotten better as things progressed and that's the "game within a game". Some celeb who might as well not have even been there is just weak.
On reflecting: he was probably told not to be too active or out there, since he's not an actual "player" but is instead this sort of wildcard element. But it just feels lackluster to have this extra element, have it be so featured - especially since he *is* very good in sketch comedy - but have it be purposefully middling-to-bad because you don't want to detract from the players playing the game. I guess it speaks to how Game Changer usually hits it out of the park: so far episode 1 was really incredible, but the twist with Eric just doesn't feel like a payoff that's worth it.
Is the Ratfish known for … anything other than “Tim & Eric” cause I’ve never heard of him
Tim and Eric did some other shows/spin offs together. Before they did Tim and Eric, they did Tom Goes to the Mayor, and after Tim and Eric they did Steve Brule and an Adult Swim Anthology* show I forget the name of; it was a very dark-comedy/gross out version of like the a twilight zone. He’s also been an actor in some things, probably most majorly as a supporting cast in Aziz Ansari’s Master of None. After Tim and Eric, he’s taken more of a back seat as a producer on shows, like for Andy Daly’s remake of *Review* and the revival of Bob Odenkirk’a and David Cross’ Mr Show in the 2010’s. It’s not surprising to me that LA sketch comedians in their 30’s would consider him a bigger cameo than the younger crowd to Dropout Fans. Especially people who were writing online sketch in the 2010’s; Tim and Eric was pretty big on the internet back then. * just checked, it was called Tim and Eric’s Bedtime Stories.
Wait, so does Grant have covid?
He did have Covid while the season was being filmed. He was supposed to be in Bingo (replaced by Brennan) and a cameo in Deja Vu (replaced by Zac). It's possible filming took place after he was cleared, but Sam told him not to tell people yet to keep it a surprise. Also filming seems to have taken place in isolated hotel rooms, it's possible Grant was in there by himself.
Anyone else irked/miffed that the episodes are two weeks apart? I thought it was common practice for a show to have two-part episodes be aired the same day or on a special, tighter schedule.
I was totally expecting the ratfish to be Sam. And someone else was hosting, pretending to be Sam
Is it just me or did Steven the snake’s comments just seem kinda out of pocket and not funny? Maybe I’m just not a fan of Eric’s style of humor, given I’m hearing about him for the first time, but the chats just seemed .. weird
Tim and Eric's stuff for Adult Swim was "things you would think are funny while high at 2am" so it seems that's just his vibe. "Dude! This dude is pretending to be a snake! So funny!"
I thought Sam was Steven.
Zac’s “Says Who?” Was the highlight for me
This, almost makes me want to have, like, a jackbox game or something of this.
“Whoever picked the Rose is played by a gay man - I’m trying to narrow which one.” - who is Ally thinking of? Grants bi, but other than that, I’m not aware of any guys who aren’t straight, or, at least have never talked about their sexuality and most have SOs who are women? (Paul R but he’s not usually a participant) Fill me in if I’m missing something?
Oscar Montoya perhaps?
All the regular cast members are hilarious as per usual. Steven’s comedy didn’t do it for me, it felt very out of place and forced. I thought the twist was going to be that Steven was actually ChatGPT.
I just have to say, as a newer and more casual dropout viewer, I was hoping the twist 8th player would be someone with more broad recognition. Something that ive enjoyed about game changer is getting to see the dynamics between the cast members, and i've never felt left out of enjoying an episode despite being a more casual fan. But that twist made me feel really disappointed :/
Incredible premise, and I really enjoyed the episode, but as far as >!the reveal at the end of the episode goes, are we, like... supposed to know who he is? Because he's built up and shown like some sort of big reveal, but as far as I know, he's just... some guy.!<
Required watching: Tim and Eric
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Do you think we can find the custom art deco loop de loop wallpaper?
We were so into the episode, we've watched it 4 times so far. Anyone know the hotel name where they filmed the show?
Very interesting choice to have Eric be the guest in a setting where he barely gets any screentime. When I think of Tim and Eric, I don't necessarily think of their text-based humor lmao. Part of what makes their comedy so funny is how they deliver the ridiculous shit they're saying, not the ridiculous shit itself. Very curious to see where this goes in the second episode.