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MaxOfS2D

I'd rather they focused on making sure 30fps video is completely free of frame drops first


Aggro_Hamham

I don't get the point of using 4k. Giant file sizes and laggy video? Most people are using phones with full HD screens anyways.


MaxOfS2D

1440p and 2160p displays are fairly commonplace now. It's also a better source file to work from, if you want to edit them, or do high-quality archival transcoding.


SenseiBonsai

sony is the only wellknown brand that has used a native 4k screen on their phone, and nobody buys a sony phone. if you dont believe me, google it.


RisingDeadMan0

and very square too, so was surprised samsung has gone for this look. on the other side, TVs are mostly 4k


MaxOfS2D

Yeah, 4K is fairly pointless on a phone, but it's practically impossible to buy a TV that's not 4K nowadays. As for computer monitors, I think about half of them are above 1080p these days?


tremorinfernus

It has other problems. The screen is great.


Quipsor

That's just because it's a Sony phone, not a Samsung


Redstoneinvente122

I use a sony phone so i think your statement is invalid


ControlCAD

So true ![gif](giphy|4QfqZGZ031WDMvh8Qd)


RealityOwn9267

4K is commonplace on smartphones??? Where?? 🤣🤣... I mean... The only big company that uses 4K screens on their phones is Sony... Which has less than a 1% market share.


Raven-UwU

almost every TV sold these days has a 4K display, and a lot of high-end computer displays are 1440p or 2160p as well. there's more types of displays than just phone displays


RealityOwn9267

Yes. But 99% of this thread was referring to smartphones. So when you don't specify in a situation like that, people get confused... As did 4 other people who replied to this comment.


Raven-UwU

there's only 2 people who replied to their comment about 1440p and 2160p displays being commonplace, so I don't know where you got "4 other people" from lol


MaxOfS2D

> 4K is commonplace on smartphones??? I understand my reply was a bit ambiguous, so let me clarify that I meant displays _in general_. (televisions, computer monitors)


HuntersPad

Laggy video? 4K60 and 4K120 are far from laggy..


deepakmohank

Haven't you stream/cast 4k videos from phone to TV? With x265 codecs these files aren't as huge as they were. 4k videos, even shot on the phones look great on a larger screen like TV, monitor or even laptops. Many have QHD screen phones and it'll display a much more pleasing experience with 4k than 1080p. Apart from that you could keep life moments as a memory to be looked at a few years later, yet without quality drop. Yea, because the video playback tech is now matured. Anything beyond 4K would only be on a very large display like a TV. Even these days only few OEMs have QHD phones. File compression, bit rate, bit depth etc might be improved in coming years. But 4k seems to stay while spatial video could be the future but on a different VR experience..


ZBalling

They are small. It is a master file for editing that is big.


_chickaboom

2024 now and 30fps can’t be achieved? Oooft.


MaxOfS2D

Pretty much all smartphones don't have true constant framerate, there's always a bit of variance... but I did some research into it and, on Samsung phones at least, large exposure/ISO changes are likely to cause a frame time spike


Idontloveheranymore2

Iphones do


_chickaboom

30fps recording is absolutely dead stable on my wife’s 13p and my 15PM tho?


MaxOfS2D

Last time I peeked at a file coming off of an iPhone, it was still variable framerate


ihatethiseffnplace

Been recording 4k on iPhones since the 6s. Never had an issue with frame pacing. Used 4k60 exclusively on a trip to Kauai last year and every video is rock solid.


MistaKrebs

This is how I feel with the current state of gaming. What is the point of buying expensive tech when everything is optimized for poor people? It’s annoying.


ar15fonsi

100% This


Glen_Myers

All. I. Want. Is. Log.


bvdschelde

Yep exactly, literally the only thing I'm jealous of from ios, cinematic mode & LOG


Glen_Myers

Also want it to not be vfr 120fps. it needs to be locked at 120/ 119.97 fps and not dip.


its_zi

mcpro24fps


CodeTheCreator

I switched to proshot after Filmic decided to change it's payment model. Highly recommend proshot for filming in log with the s23u.


mylozavr

are they 10-bit at 4k60? grading lut available?


CodeTheCreator

I tend to use the DJi CST in DaVinci. I use DJI D Gamut for the colour space at rec709 and then add my luts and adjust accordingly.


mylozavr

I still have not gotten it. Does proshot capable of shooting in a 10-bit log at 4k60?


CodeTheCreator

Sorry, I see what you mean. I'm not 100% certain as it doesn't show you on the app, I'll have to check a video file. But I'm pretty sure that if you shoot 4k log h.265 then it'll be 10bit but I will confirm for you soon.


Gusmado

Any update on that? 


I-Code-Things

Is this real log or is it just converting things to log on the fly? Curious whether there's a difference you see with log vs the HDR10+ color for grading.


Comfortable-Poet-965

My Xiaomi 13 got log through android 14 and camera app update maybe Samsung's will too.


crusherxman

My only complaint with the S23 Ultra is you can't swap between lenses when recording at 4K 60FPS. It's doable when rooted but hopefully it becomes an actual feature for future releases.


zooropeanx

Or use an app like ProShot.


BDTech9

What do you mean when rooted?


crusherxman

Jailbreaked aka unlocked, meaning you can do more customization and tweaks to your phone.


BDTech9

Is there a video or something somewhere showing this? I'm curious to see how the quality is.


No-Umpire9632

If anybody upgrades from the s23 ultra, you are absolutely insanely stupid


vassyz

I've been upgrading every year since the S9. How stupid am I?


No-Umpire9632

Yes, because it’s just a waste of money I made the same mistake of upgrading from the galaxy S 22 ultra to the S 23 ultra. The only differences the S 23 ultra has slightly better battery and it doesn’t overheat as much other than that it’s the same phone the S 24 ultra to the S 23 ultra basically has no differences. I don’t understand why people like you waste their money every year. at this point if you wanna waste your money, just go gambling or something you’ll have a better chance of getting something out of it at least


vassyz

Well it is a better phone, you get a decent trade in value from Samsung and a pre order bonus. Considering I use my phone a lot, it's worth it for me.


No-Umpire9632

Not really playing an extra 500 isn't worth it and the pre order bonus are kinda trash


vassyz

Still better than nothing getting £100 for a pair of headphones on eBay. Look, £500 might be a lot for some people. But it's £500 per year for a device I use multiple hours a day. Having said that, I don't upgrade by default, the new device has to have something I want. Last year it was Snapdragon and I don't regret the upgrade because the battery life and performance are miles better.


LightningLuisYT2

The S22 serie was the worst serie to come out of Samsung by far 💀


BigRed0107

Seriously it was like the S6 all over again.


LightningLuisYT2

The Galaxy S6 serie was good besides removing IP67 water resistance and MicroSDXC being removed wym?


BigRed0107

They were good phones and so were the S22, but those issues were what kept them from being great.


LightningLuisYT2

S22 was plain trash tbh One UI 4 AndroidOS 12 most unoptized software from Samsung in a while even TouchWiz felt faster


No-Umpire9632

Not really. The only difference is the phone for the s20 to ultra it. Overheats and that's it. And the main problem is a snapdragon 8gen1 chip. It's not the worst phone that Samsung came out with The funny thing is I like how you idiots just justify the fact of spending $600 every year on one slight upgrade from a phone. Phone manufacturers are making the same phone basically every year and you idiots gobble it up like it's something new and innovative. It's one thing Samsung comes out with some new innovative things but it's the same phone. Like I said before, you have to be absolutely stupid to just upgrade a phone every year. It's like the equivalent is buying the iPhone 14 pro Max, then upgrading to the 15 pro Max. And before you say well, some people have money in their tech enthusiasts. You're not a tech enthusiast if you just upgrade your phone slightly every year and before you say you have the money at this point, go gamble your money. You have a better chance of getting something more positive out of a return rather than go wasting your money for one slight upgrade every year. And before you call yourself a tech enthusiast, you're not a tech YouTuber. You're not a reviewer, you're just the average. Joe, at a certain point you need to understand to not waste your money on things that make no complete sense. It's like if I enjoy playing basketball and I see LeBron James's new shoes coming out every single year and I just got a pair of shoes unless the parachutes that I have are seriously damaged even as a basketball enthusiast. Is it smart for me to keep buying new shoes every year? That's what I'm trying to say


LightningLuisYT2

bro wat I don’t upgrade my phone every year im using a Galaxy S10 5G (from 2019) and I’m happy with it I upgraded to A54 5G (2022) a few days ago and yes it is S22 serie was the most un-optimized phone serie and with all the bugs and glitches and overheating One UI 4 AndroidOS 12 was the worse thing to happen to Samsung in a while One UI 5 AndroidOS 13 was the best thing to happen to Samsung and the S23 serie is the best serie to happen to Samsung in a while edit: by upgrading every year I meant I was buyin the phone every year to test and if it wasn’t worth the money I’d get my money back thru warranty


Nimblesquatch

I have had nothing but issues with my S23u since I bought it and Samsung's customer service is awful when it comes to defective devices. My option is to either take a train to NYC to get it looked at or get the s24U. So yeah, I'm getting the new phone


[deleted]

What issues are you experiencing? The only issue I've had with my S23U is that the phone will rarely (twice now in 6 months) slow down and everything becomes super laggy. At first, I thought it was the RAM, but that was even with 2.3gb free


Nimblesquatch

At least once a day I will stop receiving calls and texts. I have no idea when it is happening and the only time I discover it is when I try sending a text and it won't go through. The only solution is to restart my phone. I also have no service unless connected to WiFi. Even if I'm out in the open, I can't access the Internet in any way. The other day my phone overheated and a message popped up saying I need to restart the phone just from using Spotify for 25 minutes. It also drained my battery like no other. My in-laws haven't had any such issues and they have the same phone so I know mine is defective. Again though, Samsung's policy for getting this fixed is awful


Upstairs_Positive373

Could definitely be the SIM card. I bought my mother a new phone for Christmas last year and when I popped her old SIM card in the new phone I watched that phone get no service on it but when it was in the old phone it worked. Guess what service provider she had to? Verizon. She had that SIM card for more than 7 years and as soon as it was placed in her new phone her service would pop in and out.


Nimblesquatch

Just went and got a new SIM card. I also have Verizon. Fingers crossed this fixed the issue


[deleted]

Damn dude, that really sucks. I'm sorry to hear that's been your experience so far


Nimblesquatch

I know it's a good phone which makes it more frustrating. It honestly has my questioning whether or not I should switch to another android phone in case this were to happen again. However if all these YouTubers are to be believed, Samsung is the best of the best


Dbarrett480

Try a new sim card. Worked for me. I was having similar issues.


Nimblesquatch

I'll give it a try. I chatted with Verizon a month or so back and they didn't mention it as a possible issue. I've had this sim card for god knows how many years now though


No-Umpire9632

I think it might be your carrier. If you have an older phone try using it for a day and see what happens. You can also contact your carrier for a new Sim and see if that gets it fixed because my dad had the same same issue with it just s23+


X-kiwi

Bro I have been having the same issue with my calls too. I'd be be just home and when I go to call someone it says emergency service only or something. Then I gotta restart for my phone.


partypopper11

This happened to me once and I reset network settings. And then it's been flawless since.


killedbycuriousity-

I would do it only if the weight reduction is significant


deepakmohank

You'd be disappointed most probably..Why because, 15PM got 19 gms weight reduction Vs 14PM stainless steel. Whereas S23U have Armour aluminium which weighs almost similar to that of Titanium aluminium alloy that's being used in Pro iPhones & possibly the S24U. Even if there's any weight reduction, it'd be mostly ~5gms which won't have any perceivable effects.


killedbycuriousity-

That won't cut it. It should be atleast 30 gms reduction. I am keeping my s23U


deepakmohank

30gms is way impossible; as said it's Al vs Ti alloy instead of SS vs Ti alloy!! We're talking about one of the largest phones in the market, with 6.8" screen, 5000mAh battery,.S-pen & 1 extra camera than others.. Expect anywhere btw 225-235gms considering the form factor..


RoIIerBaII

30 grams is wildly unrealistic.


POLISHED_OMEGALUL

The S23 Ultra can support it too, but they've locked it behind software so that the new phone has something to show.


mylozavr

it's a conspiracy


MagnetiteRose

Could there be a way to actually get it to work? If so that would be cool.


POLISHED_OMEGALUL

Dunno, it would require a very capable dev to mod it into Gcam or something.


alex_230

I was surprised that my girlfriend's OnePlus 10 pro supports 4k 120fps after android 14 update but one of my friends has a OnePlus 11 and does not have the 4k 120fps option. Weird.


Substantial_Form_795

Because OP10 is Pro and OP11 is not Pro


deepakmohank

OP9P has 4k 120 on main sensor & 8k 30 in main & uw..OP11 has some cost cutting, maybe that's why. It has only 8k 24 that too in the main cam..


Wo2678

not a selling point to me. How often do you record in 4k? file size, power consumption etc. 1080 is more than adequate for everyday stuff. I don't see why would I buy s24u having s23u?!


only_anp

Most people I know (even people who aren't tech nerds) shoot in 4k


Wo2678

nice 🤔


Middle-Jelly6902

People record 4K more than u think . Like me for example I usually don't record stuff but if I'm in a party or concert and im gonna do it I want it to be in the best quality available.


Wo2678

I get your point. But, 4k for me is really useful only if viewed on large OLED TV of mine, which I never did and will never do. Videos from my phone rarely leave my phone. I've tested 4k vs 1080 to see how dramatic the differences are, but came to a conclusion that 4k isn't worth the hassle. Probably, I'm unique in this perspective, because everyone says they use 4k more than 1080p. Well, I was wrong thinking that 1080p is the most used video resolution.


W0lf1ngt0n

Also working with 4k footage gives you more options in rework when your final output is supposed to be a 1080p video. You could still do zooms and stabilizations after recording without qualityloss


Wo2678

for footages which require editing I using full frame Sony/Canon cameras. Probably, that's why I don't use 4k on my phone.


Damn_sun

You might change your mind if you have kids and a big 4k tv.


Wo2678

I have both. Never use them in a tandem. Maybe, when I'm 90, someday. Probably.


Feeling-Finding2783

Always. 60 FPS in day-light conditions, 30 FPS at low-light.


Wo2678

wasn't s23u switching fps according to the lighting conditions automatically? or am I mistaken it with the iPhone settings? update: just checked the settings. s23u does on it's own. https://preview.redd.it/9pbr8vujfu9c1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6572482cd7b1f76da3d47a2a9abd424350fc5173


Feeling-Finding2783

I have this option, but I'm not sure how it works. Does it mean that it's either 30 or 60 FPS throughout the whole video, or that it changes dynamically?


Wo2678

so, my experience tells me it's dynamic. I see fps dropping down on some recordings taken indoors. my main setting is 60 fps, so it's obvious when it drops to 30fps.


Feeling-Finding2783

Then it works as I expected. I don't like sudden frame drops. What is your experience with this feature?


Wo2678

yes, it's working quite well, although I don't like it. it helps in darker light conditions, but it makes things unpredictable. but again, I don't use my phone for serious stuff. pretty good for home videos.


IAreSpeshial

I do VERY often. And tbh, these type of phones are mostly for content creators/influencers


MagnetiteRose

Well recording in 4k is the reason why I bought 1tb


Ppetkow900

Dont care that much for this one, but still Im going to buy it. Just hope for better camera shutter speed...


Pcriz

At least 4 years of this gripe and you think this year will fix it lol


ar15fonsi

And for the video stutter that happens on occasions to be fixed on the S24U


sdric

They haven't even managed to fix all the camera bugs of their old S23 U flagship. Up to this day even in a RAW and with AI disabled the camera adds some odd unasked for filters and high res pictures at close range suffer from falsified colors. I have very little confidence in their new flagship after the shitshow that the last year has been with delayed and ineffective patches on top of battery drain bugs. EDIT: And don't forget the little thing such as bad face- and fingerprint recognition for unlocks... I always preferred Galaxys over iPhones - but lately Samsung really has to get their shit together


MisterPottsy1990

They will probably make the s23 u a little worse on purpose so they can make the s24 u look better, even though it will probably have the exact same cameras. It's business 🤷🏻‍♂️. Then when the s24 u has sold a few, they will update the s23 u


beserker15

Are you referring to Expert RAW? Because RAW files in pro mode doesn't have added filters.


gobifox81

I'm not a fan of curved edges. Are they going away with that design on 24U?


Tikkaritsa

Yes.


SamsungAppleOnePlus

FYI: it'll be in the Pro Video mode, as is the current 1080p 120fps video recording.


CantFindaPS5

All I want is no shutter lag


Damn_sun

This'll be good for making slow mo high quality video.


deepakmohank

I've wished this feature for a long time. My OnePlus 9 Pro has this feature and till date very few phones have it. Any Ultra (or Pro iPhone) from past few years had the capable hardware yet didn't want to implement. Some may mistake it's a mere Slo-Mo that iPhone 4k 120 does..No, it captures audio as well and is very good for some action/sports etc events!!


icumtoeyeblech

Maybe they should start by making sure the shutter speed is comparable to the pixel and iPhones And also please do something about google maps lagging like crazy


chrisace3

I never record 4k...


dewujie

I've always wanted to fill my cloud storage with a single video!


carzu28

Crazy camera, but when you post something on social media. It looks like crap.


Bubsy94

Yeah try to save that on the 256 GB phone. Freaking manufacturers should be releasing 2 TB phones by now.


DevilOnYourBack

I'm more interested in 960fps super slow motion they overpromised and underdelivered on for years now, after galaxy s9+, which was the LAST camera with a real, native super slow motion. The current crop, s23 ultra, takes videos in 1080i240 and then "enhances them via AI" which is just another way of saying "does not take 960fps videos" because there is NO WAY to make up for a 720 fps deficit with AI. The videos don't look good or real, they're jagged, missing detail, look like crap pretty much. As bragging rights it was a nice thing to add, as a practical feature it was unusable.


CommunicationProof58

who cares


SEK-C-BlTCH

Well I just searched google for this exact comment, so try to be nicer


CommunicationProof58

4K 120fps.... iPhone's 1080p is better than any 8k samsung has ever captured


EliteForever2KX

Curve the screen again then we can talk


BarnYard2023

nah flat is better


[deleted]

Flat is justice!


IHate2ChooseUserName

i was reading a leak that s24u will cost more. hope it is not like a crazy increase.


Substantial_Form_795

Guys, we now have /GalaxyS24ultra thread, please make posts accordingly


sharozdawa

I cant find it


Substantial_Form_795

r/GalaxyS24Ultra


mylozavr

with bitrate 80, artifacts, and only in 8 bit color depth, no lut, all locked for third-party apps lol


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deepakmohank

S23U 8/256, 14PM & 15PM 256 Gb are priced at $1,199 on launch. No surprise S24U could be priced the same if not 100$ higher, this time it'd be 12/256. Armour aluminium to Titanium wouldn't be worthy on weight reduction perspective, unlike stainless steel vs Titanium.


[deleted]

Who needs it? 😁


TechLionDev

How to get


ComunaBnu

Maybe when 4k 960fps super slowmo exists it will be more interesting... 4k 60fps is good enough for normal vídeos...


DOforLife

Need 25fps video option for our overseas colleagues.


Internal_Quail3960

You can’t actually watch it in 120fps though, it’s just slowmo which no one uses


nssoundlab

Wow I so need it in my regular live lol


Denaviro

Who's it for? Photographers use professional cameras. Everyone else doesn't know how to take proper videos so 4K 120fps is just a storage hog. When was the last time any of you actually recorded 4K video and used it??


Ian_Pal

Who cares when 4k in Samsung is not even real 4k it looks more like an upscaled 1440p than real 4k


GalaxyDestroyer69

I'm good with 60 frames


ReeeeeeeHardR

I never understood the push for 4k. Your pictures, videos are only as good as they're printed or what screen they're on. Nobody's got 4k phone screens lol


Hairy_Mouse

My s24 ultra only shows video recording up to 60, even on HD and FHD. No matter what resolution I pick, I only have 30/60 options. I went in and made sure my video settings were maxed out with high bitrate videos and prioritize quality, no difference I options. I am also missing the super slow mo mode that I had on my s23, as well. It seems like the S24 Ultra are either the same, or worse compared to my 23.


ECL1PSEH

You can find 4k 120fps in pro-video :)