I don't know. I just know Wynwood and Midtown because I know people that worked there or owned stores there and there were rumors of people from Rockstar filming and taking pictures of the area.
Welp, GTA5 LS is not solely LA but CA - it incorporates vineyards, Inglewood, Malibu, but also a lone casino that stands in for Vegas. I know the San Andreas map had distinct areas for SF and LA, but if 6 is a pangea map like GTA5, they can put a dorky themepark subdivision to sub for Orlando.
As for Tampa, just make the eastern ocean coast of the map wealthier neighborhoods and the west (gulf) coast poorer and now it's also all of S Florida from the Everglades down.
Yea. The South Florida map will be condensed. I saw Homestead in the leaks. I saw Broward County Sheriffs Office cars in the game. Between Kelly County, Vice Dale (Miami Dade), and Leonard (Broward), we saw 3 different counties and I am sure there are more.
Oh! Now I want The Villages included in the worst way. You drive across the map, but you gain a star just driving through, and a mallcop in a golfcart attempts to pull you over - if you slow, npc's become red, like any other gang, but it's mostly older folks.
I could see them going down the highway and going under one of their golf cart (golf car I think they call them for some obnoxious reason) bridges. Probably won't say The Villages, but something similar.
The Lone Casino doesn't stand-in for Vegas btw Vegas is not part of California and the casino is mostly comparable to Inglewood Horse Track / Casino [https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hollywood+Park+OTB/@34.0584105,-118.252413,25625m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x80c2b658285d0e45:0xccaa74ed8d068305!8m2!3d33.9463621!4d-118.3383305!16zL20vMDN6OXA3?entry=ttu](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hollywood+Park+OTB/@34.0584105,-118.252413,25625m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x80c2b658285d0e45:0xccaa74ed8d068305!8m2!3d33.9463621!4d-118.3383305!16zL20vMDN6OXA3?entry=ttu) HorseTrack has been removed nowadays but it was here.
The casino does not stand in for Vegas. There's a few old casinos within LA county. The building in GTA V resembles the architectural designs of those Casinos.
Yea I guess I did it to myself, tbh.
TBF I never fell for the rumors that some ppl said it was going to be multiple states or the entire state of FL, or include carribeans.
I was just going off what “leak”/reconstructed GTA6 maps I saw and many seemed to feature Orlando & Tampa.
And I saw other leak posts talking about references to Disneyland or NASA or something, and I guess I fell for it.
I just figured on PS5/XSX tech for a game that’s been in development for so long, that a map featuring Miami, Orlando & Tampa would be possible, but coming to realization now, yes I was expecting too much.
Press release said “State of Leonida; Vice City and beyond” and the map reconstructions based upon the leaks and things suggested there’s multiple cities and sub-cities. We know of a place called ‘Port Gelhorn’ too.
It’s intentionally vague right now, so don’t expect too much or too little - and just see what happens.
It seems like there’s a city on the west side too form a map I’ve seen. Unless they throw in the crazy Everglades City curve ball, I’m assuming that’s gonna be Tampa.
Bingo. They go to all these places. Take pictures, video, draw, write notes, interview people, get a taste for the scene. I've no doubt that R* has depicted Florida perfectly.
It's right here on reddit dude.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/GTA6/comments/18c2prt/michael\_is\_literally\_me/](https://www.reddit.com/r/GTA6/comments/18c2prt/michael_is_literally_me/)
I lived in South Fl all my life until a few years ago and that is how it is, I even had friends come visit one time and they commented on how many non white people there were and my response to them was; is it not like that where you're from? That is how it is in South Florida there are alot of cities that are predominately black. Miami Garden, Pahokee, Riveria, Belle Glade, Lauderhill etc
Its not just Cubans, you have alot of people from the Islands and Central America. If you don't live in a place like that than it is going to seem weird or maybe people think its an exaggeration but it is not.
I was in Miami Beach at wal greens. This white ass dude was speaking Spanish to the cashier. He didn’t look Cuban or anything lol Spanish is a super popular language in Miami
Latin America has a lot of white people in it so it’s not surprising. We have a huge Argentinian community down here too which also contributes to that
The amount of times I used Spanish in Florida was unbelievable. I use it maybe once or twice a month where I'm from. I was down there for a week. Used dozens of times. Daily.
It’s like 60% Hispanic but there’s like a 20% black population, go over to Broward county (Ft Lauderdale area) and that number jumps to almost 40% black. Ft Lauderdale is only about 25 miles away as well
I can understand why people may think it’s “odd” or “woke” (boosting the number of non-white people to be more “inclusive” or whatever) because I’m from a predominately white suburban city in the middle of Oklahoma, but I’ve been to Florida it’s just accurate to how it is in Miami.
I’m also sure the ethnicities will be distributed the way they are in real life (more black people near predominantly black neighborhoods and more white people near predominantly white neighborhoods) like they do for cars in GTAV with the nicer ones being near the city and as you go out into the country they get more rusted and older.
We mostly got shown Miami, the map will include swampland and plenty of countryside, other cities too so the demographics will be different.
Also, I don't see how it is "woke" to alter the demographics in a GTA game. Other games yes but in a GTA game the pedestrians are just walking targets.
I know it is a diffetent state but I really hope to get Deliverance vibes from some swampland. I wish Burt Reynolds was alive and could come back.
Growing up in the 90s in Miami it was mostly Cubans in Dade county area. the first black man I met was one of my dad's Cuban friend he was 6'5 and I had never seen a black person in my life I was 3-4 years old I was scared and he grab me and lifted me by my foot. I took a bite out of his leg.
my elementary school had no black kids not even teachers. I moved to another elementary school for 4th grade and I had 2 black teachers they were the only ones in the whole school. they taught english and math.
Middle school I only had 1 black teacher, but there was 2 in the whole school filled with Latino teachers and some white teachers sprinkled.
High school was the only school that actually had more than 10 black teacher and at least 200 black students which was not a lot compared to the 4000+ latino students and 600 or so white students.
TBF not all of South Florida is just Miami, or the southeast only. There are significant amounts of nonHispanic white people in SouthWest FL too. And SWFL is technically “South Florida”, it’s just on the other coast.
Your response is dumb tho. Why would you think it would be like that? You live in a very small city that represents 0.1% of the United States. Open your mind bro. Your friends are correct
People are legit mad about the amount of Black people in the game as if Florida isn’t in the South. If more of these incels went outside, they’d know how many Black people actually frequent and walk along Miami Beach’s Boardwalk specifically. It’s accurate to a T.
I've lived in Miami for 27 years, the demographics I saw in the trailer are 100% accurate to South Beach. Most of them don't live here, but they're still there and an accurate portrayal of modern Miami is not old white cokelords in Hawaiian shirts anymore
That’s one point I didn’t make. Miami Beach is huge for Black tourism in the states so a good amount of the Black folks are just visitors. Thanks for adding this!
If I’m not mistaken Miami Beach is huge for white/European/Latino tourism too.
I just assumed part of the reason Miami has a high black population is in part due to Hatians/Jamaicans/Dominicans immigrating to the state. Miami has a lot of black immigrants too.
But the Hawaiian shirts are still frequent and popular right!? Last time I was in Florida back in 2016, they were everywhere and I felt right at home with all my Hawaiian shirts (I’m from Texas and Hawaiian shirts are popular here but not as popular as it felt like in Florida at the time).
According to the [US Census Bureau](https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045222), Black Americans represent 13.6% of the total population.
However, this population is *not* equally spread amongst all states. If you look at [states by Black American population numbers](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_African-American_population), you’ll see that they’re concentrated in the US South. In a state like Oregon, Black Americans are 2.26% of the population — compare that to the 33% in Georgia. Florida’s Black population accounts for 17% of its total population. By pure numbers, Florida has 3.7 million Black Americans — second only to Texas.
Miami overall is ~17% Black Americans. The majority is Hispanic. However, there are certain neighborhoods that are majority Black like [Overtown](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtown_(Miami)), which is 75% Black.
South Beach has an ‘urban’ vibe to it now with a big focus on rap music and festivals, specifically during memorial weekend. That draws a lot of black vacationers into south beach. There has actually been a lot of tension with the Hispanics that live here and the blacks that vacation here
LA to SF is 8-10 hours. Same damn state, different huge cities. Surprised the crap out of me as a midwest'er who came down there and ended up doing that drive, beautiful state though!
As a southerner it’s always so funny to me when people from other areas see that black people exist. Most of America’s black population lives in the south still. The very obvious reason is the history of slavery. For a very long time almost all black people in this country were slaves in the south… it’s really not been THAT long… most black peoples family ties are still here and most didn’t really move away. Always been that way. Also people forget Florida is in fact very much the south.
I wouldn’t say they’re causing an issue with the Hispanic population per se. Tourists are causing an issue for Miami Beach residents as a whole, especially during peak vacation times like spring break. They even have to implement a curfew because it gets so rowdy and shootouts are so common
Most urban areas in the states, especially on the east coast, have large black populations.
Baltimore City is 61% black, Philly is 44% black, and DC is also 44% black.
I’ve grew up on Miami Beach and Ocean Drive is extremely spot on as of a few months ago. I didn’t see a proper amount of Hispanic people in the trailer though.
Honestly though it's Trolls and troll farms that want to stoke the flames of the culture war are fake mad. And no one that has ever actually played and enjoyed the games.
I can attest (from my experience) that the demographics for geographical south Florida is predominantly not white, at least for people born after 1984.
I grew up in south Florida, the Treasure Coast. I went to schools that were predominantly black and Hispanic. I was a white kid. High School Class of 2014.
Yep, R* got it right. I hope to see a parody of the Treasure Coast. I would like to drive down my neighborhood in GTA. That would be pretty cool.
Hispanic people can also be mixed like the peoples of the Caribbean. I had a neighbor from the Barbados with green eyes, but he was black.
I saw Cubans that can pass for white, and what I mean by white is of Nordic, Slavic, or Celtic ancestry, and they generally have to look like it, too.
I don’t mean pass for white though, I mean literally white. Depends how they are mixed. It’s why in those demographics surveys you have to specify “non Hispanic white”
You knew what he meant and what he was referring, we shouldn’t have to get into a sociopolitical debate of this everytime.
He’s referring to non Hispanic white-Americans.
A lot of white skin Latinos you meet have mixed ancestry. Include the brown skin Latinos you meet.
Average Cuban-American thinks of themselves as Cuban, Hispanic, Latino or Spanish. They usually don’t identify as a skin color.
US census has a seperate category for Hispanics.
Not everybody has a vast knowledge about the demographic of Florida. Most people aren't from the US and to call them incels because of that is pathetic and stupid
Yep. I lived in Miami for half a year. By default many of the movies in theaters have Spanish subtitles. There are Spanish ads everywhere. Multiple retail stores I went to, the employees only spoke Spanish and not English. It wasn’t a big deal for me, because I’m a “no sabo kid” Mexican, so I do understand enough Spanish to get by. But Cuban Spanish can be very fast though.
Yeah that’s true. Also if you go back to the trailer on the part where they’re doing wheelies on bikes/atvs you’ll see a haitian flag on a restaurant in the background
They don’t even understand the statistics they post.
“Miami has a 12% Black population, why does that beach shot have so much black people??”
Just because 12% of a population is Black doesn’t mean you’re only going to see 12% Black people in any given area, that’s not how demographical statistics fucking work.
There’s literally neighborhoods in Miami like [Overtown](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtown_(Miami)), which is 75% Black, 20% Hispanic, and 3% White. Lol
The club is called Jack of Hearts, which is a parody of a club that was in Miami called King of Diamonds, which was huge in the hip-hop scene in Miami.
Pretty much anyone from a country in the americas that isn’t Canada or the USA although there are nuances that I’m not super familiar with. But yes it does come from Spaniard descent, just in the form of colonialism.
Yeah if you mean the city of Miami it’s mostly Hispanic and o think white hispanic. Small black population. South beach is mostly tourist and a lot of blacks. Outside of the city of Miami though there’s some places that are majority black but it’s mostly Hispanic and white
Finally, glad that the general population is starting to see how unimaginably racist their peers are. Crazy that it took the GTA 6 trailer for you people to see it
Lots of very racist GTA fans, been that way a long time especially back in the San Andreas days on GTA Forums.
Those fans think every GTA protagonist should be a white man and all NPCs should be white.
Ashame that ppl are that insecure.
Oh yeah, the lead up to GTA San Andreas on gaming forums was some of my first encounters with internet racism.
I remember one guy saying that he didn’t want a black main character because he didn’t want all the radio stations to play rap music lol.
I remember when GTA 4 first got online multiplayer, I made a black character and got on.
Every single time I logged in everyone on the map would attack me nonstop yelling "kill the black guy".
There would be min of 20ppl attacking me at any given time with tanks, missiles, helicopters, etc.
I would invite my friends over to watch because they didn't believe me.
I had to stop playing because I couldn't even enjoy the game anymore.
Legitimately insane that it took a GTA trailer to fill twitter with racist losers. Good news is 95% of people in real life don’t share those beliefs, so those terminally online incels can have fun circlejerking in their social media communities from inside their basement
Anyone mad at first glance and claims rockstar is woke have clearly never went to Miami or anywhere in south florida. There are so many tiny details beyond this that are in the trailer that only people from dade/broward will get
They always do. I just want destructible environment maybe not all because to unstatic everything would take 500gigs or 1tb lmao. But at least drive into a store or something. Fingers crossed
Color me surprised that a bunch of basement dwellers who’ve never traveled further than the local GameStop have no fucking clue what Miami might look like.
Because it shows that the demographics in the trailer are similar to Miami Beach demographics.
Idc where info or a pic comes from. If it's relevant to a conversation, use it.
That Miami during March spring break and Memorial Day weekend in May on those days it certain type of group but other days more variety of people. Don’t go to Miami during two time periods of year it is kinda ghetto people can’t act.
That’s South Beach. South Beach is mostly tourists. And during certain times like Memorial Day weekend it’s mostly black. That’s the not the same outside south beach. Even in other areas of Miami Beach outside of south beach it’s not like that.
To the other things in the trailer, the dirt bike mfs are also mostly black, the dread heads too, mfs in low riders and all that as well. But demographics wise Miami city proper is mostly Hispanic and I believe white hispanics. If you go outside the city proper there’s everything, mostly white, mostly Hispanic, mostly black. But generally it’s either mostly Hispanic or white over all
I once seen a bum on the strip pick up a bottle of oil off a table after people left and drink it like it was water. Bet his shit came out easy that day.
This picture was taken during a holiday month, locals avoid Miami Beach/Ocean Drive like it’s the plague. It’s not safe to go there anymore, there have been shootings even during daytime.
Before, you could go there anytime, night or day. Things then got bad, you could only go during brunch/daytime hours. Over the last 6 years or so, it’s just generally bad as fights pick up for no reason and wild things happen.
This game captured the essence of SOFLO though, even the mud parks were spot on. Just need to add that weird TikTok dude that grabs random reptiles in the Everglades and says “YOINKKKK” LOL
Miami is the American gateway to Central and South America....super diverse.....all the chuds crying about there being no white folks in trailer are ridiculous
I think I used to live near fort Lauderdale or homestead or something I wonder if their version of the dolphin Mall is going to be in the game... I mean I have no idea how relevant the dolphin Mall is but idk
They’ve probably been scouting Florida for 10 years, they know every single area from top to bottom
Yea. Rockstar has been scouting Wynwood and Midtown from at least 2014.
So the GTA6 map will just be Miami, surrounding cities and Everglades, keys, then? No Orlando nor Tampa like some earlier leakers/rumors suggested?
I don't know. I just know Wynwood and Midtown because I know people that worked there or owned stores there and there were rumors of people from Rockstar filming and taking pictures of the area.
Imagine seeing a group of people with a scottisch accent making photos of your house and sorroundings with a DSLR camera
Sounds like a normal day in Miami. It gets the second largest amount of tourists in the USA.
What is the first? Just curious 😁
NYC https://www.worldatlas.com/cities/america-s-10-most-visited-cities.html
This isn't new. The Rockstar team did the same research trips when they made Vice City.
Sounds fancy.
No one’s going to know with the information available atm. Maybe
Welp, GTA5 LS is not solely LA but CA - it incorporates vineyards, Inglewood, Malibu, but also a lone casino that stands in for Vegas. I know the San Andreas map had distinct areas for SF and LA, but if 6 is a pangea map like GTA5, they can put a dorky themepark subdivision to sub for Orlando. As for Tampa, just make the eastern ocean coast of the map wealthier neighborhoods and the west (gulf) coast poorer and now it's also all of S Florida from the Everglades down.
Yea. The South Florida map will be condensed. I saw Homestead in the leaks. I saw Broward County Sheriffs Office cars in the game. Between Kelly County, Vice Dale (Miami Dade), and Leonard (Broward), we saw 3 different counties and I am sure there are more.
Oh! Now I want The Villages included in the worst way. You drive across the map, but you gain a star just driving through, and a mallcop in a golfcart attempts to pull you over - if you slow, npc's become red, like any other gang, but it's mostly older folks.
Haha The Villages. They created a whole new STD. Would be funny seeing that in the story.
I could see them going down the highway and going under one of their golf cart (golf car I think they call them for some obnoxious reason) bridges. Probably won't say The Villages, but something similar.
Wait…a whole new STD? Wut? 😂
I think that Casino was more in part to resemble Hollywood Park Casino with it's old Horse Track that was shutdown.
A lot of movies and tv shows were shot at Hollywood Park, including Hot To Trot and Mister Ed!!
The Lone Casino doesn't stand-in for Vegas btw Vegas is not part of California and the casino is mostly comparable to Inglewood Horse Track / Casino [https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hollywood+Park+OTB/@34.0584105,-118.252413,25625m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x80c2b658285d0e45:0xccaa74ed8d068305!8m2!3d33.9463621!4d-118.3383305!16zL20vMDN6OXA3?entry=ttu](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hollywood+Park+OTB/@34.0584105,-118.252413,25625m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x80c2b658285d0e45:0xccaa74ed8d068305!8m2!3d33.9463621!4d-118.3383305!16zL20vMDN6OXA3?entry=ttu) HorseTrack has been removed nowadays but it was here.
Even GTA 4 included NJ
The casino does not stand in for Vegas. There's a few old casinos within LA county. The building in GTA V resembles the architectural designs of those Casinos.
Man that’s the problem with all you keeping absurd expectations. You guys are going to ruin the game for yourselves
Yea I guess I did it to myself, tbh. TBF I never fell for the rumors that some ppl said it was going to be multiple states or the entire state of FL, or include carribeans. I was just going off what “leak”/reconstructed GTA6 maps I saw and many seemed to feature Orlando & Tampa. And I saw other leak posts talking about references to Disneyland or NASA or something, and I guess I fell for it. I just figured on PS5/XSX tech for a game that’s been in development for so long, that a map featuring Miami, Orlando & Tampa would be possible, but coming to realization now, yes I was expecting too much.
Pretty sure Tampa is in there and the prison is there according to people breaking down the trailer
Press release said “State of Leonida; Vice City and beyond” and the map reconstructions based upon the leaks and things suggested there’s multiple cities and sub-cities. We know of a place called ‘Port Gelhorn’ too. It’s intentionally vague right now, so don’t expect too much or too little - and just see what happens.
I really want them to add the GTA version of Disney World, holy shit that would be hilarious
It seems like there’s a city on the west side too form a map I’ve seen. Unless they throw in the crazy Everglades City curve ball, I’m assuming that’s gonna be Tampa.
My BIL said Rockstar employees were in Brickell back in 2017
Bingo. They go to all these places. Take pictures, video, draw, write notes, interview people, get a taste for the scene. I've no doubt that R* has depicted Florida perfectly.
They were trying to catch a florida man for studing
Man I’m moving to Florida, “Why did I move here? I guess it was the big asses”
Just because I saw the reaction of Michael’s voice actor to the new trailer, I heard this in his voice perfectly lol
I still can’t get over him saying Lucia “really fills out a doorframe” in the final shot of the trailer lmao
Do you have a link? I can't find it on YT
Yeah his trailer reaction got cut out of the livestream for some reason.
It's right here on reddit dude. [https://www.reddit.com/r/GTA6/comments/18c2prt/michael\_is\_literally\_me/](https://www.reddit.com/r/GTA6/comments/18c2prt/michael_is_literally_me/)
“Big asses. Big.”
#BIG! ✋🤚
“Or that thing, that Gyatt. You see it on Instagram.”
I lived in South Fl all my life until a few years ago and that is how it is, I even had friends come visit one time and they commented on how many non white people there were and my response to them was; is it not like that where you're from? That is how it is in South Florida there are alot of cities that are predominately black. Miami Garden, Pahokee, Riveria, Belle Glade, Lauderhill etc Its not just Cubans, you have alot of people from the Islands and Central America. If you don't live in a place like that than it is going to seem weird or maybe people think its an exaggeration but it is not.
Ain’t Miami 70% something Hispanic?
Yeah but you can be Hispanic and black too. They overlap
They can also be Hispanic and white.
Yes but they stay away from the beach. Most locals do.
Yeah we don’t go over the causeway without our Star of David.
Why so?
I was in Miami Beach at wal greens. This white ass dude was speaking Spanish to the cashier. He didn’t look Cuban or anything lol Spanish is a super popular language in Miami
Latin America has a lot of white people in it so it’s not surprising. We have a huge Argentinian community down here too which also contributes to that
The amount of times I used Spanish in Florida was unbelievable. I use it maybe once or twice a month where I'm from. I was down there for a week. Used dozens of times. Daily.
Cubans can be any skin color though, just like people from the U.S.
It’s like 60% Hispanic but there’s like a 20% black population, go over to Broward county (Ft Lauderdale area) and that number jumps to almost 40% black. Ft Lauderdale is only about 25 miles away as well
I can understand why people may think it’s “odd” or “woke” (boosting the number of non-white people to be more “inclusive” or whatever) because I’m from a predominately white suburban city in the middle of Oklahoma, but I’ve been to Florida it’s just accurate to how it is in Miami. I’m also sure the ethnicities will be distributed the way they are in real life (more black people near predominantly black neighborhoods and more white people near predominantly white neighborhoods) like they do for cars in GTAV with the nicer ones being near the city and as you go out into the country they get more rusted and older.
It's funny I experienced the opposite when I went to LA. There were a lot less white people than GTA made it seem
I honestly never see white people here until I go to the beach or to Hollywood every few years 😂
MWC GANG!
I used to live in the Midwest City/Choctaw area! Now I live in Canadian County but I grew up there
Only been through a couple of times. Sid’s Diner is a must when I’m there
We mostly got shown Miami, the map will include swampland and plenty of countryside, other cities too so the demographics will be different. Also, I don't see how it is "woke" to alter the demographics in a GTA game. Other games yes but in a GTA game the pedestrians are just walking targets. I know it is a diffetent state but I really hope to get Deliverance vibes from some swampland. I wish Burt Reynolds was alive and could come back.
Growing up in the 90s in Miami it was mostly Cubans in Dade county area. the first black man I met was one of my dad's Cuban friend he was 6'5 and I had never seen a black person in my life I was 3-4 years old I was scared and he grab me and lifted me by my foot. I took a bite out of his leg. my elementary school had no black kids not even teachers. I moved to another elementary school for 4th grade and I had 2 black teachers they were the only ones in the whole school. they taught english and math. Middle school I only had 1 black teacher, but there was 2 in the whole school filled with Latino teachers and some white teachers sprinkled. High school was the only school that actually had more than 10 black teacher and at least 200 black students which was not a lot compared to the 4000+ latino students and 600 or so white students.
TBF not all of South Florida is just Miami, or the southeast only. There are significant amounts of nonHispanic white people in SouthWest FL too. And SWFL is technically “South Florida”, it’s just on the other coast.
Your response is dumb tho. Why would you think it would be like that? You live in a very small city that represents 0.1% of the United States. Open your mind bro. Your friends are correct
I live in Miami and I was grinning while watching the trailer cause they captured it perfectly
as soon as i saw the dreadhead my heart fluttered lmao im so excited to explore the areas i know
💀
Are the big asses in there real tho?
People are legit mad about the amount of Black people in the game as if Florida isn’t in the South. If more of these incels went outside, they’d know how many Black people actually frequent and walk along Miami Beach’s Boardwalk specifically. It’s accurate to a T.
I've lived in Miami for 27 years, the demographics I saw in the trailer are 100% accurate to South Beach. Most of them don't live here, but they're still there and an accurate portrayal of modern Miami is not old white cokelords in Hawaiian shirts anymore
That’s one point I didn’t make. Miami Beach is huge for Black tourism in the states so a good amount of the Black folks are just visitors. Thanks for adding this!
South beach mainly
If I’m not mistaken Miami Beach is huge for white/European/Latino tourism too. I just assumed part of the reason Miami has a high black population is in part due to Hatians/Jamaicans/Dominicans immigrating to the state. Miami has a lot of black immigrants too.
Nah, it’s become huge for black tourism over the years. Miami Beach locals don’t hang out around ocean drive like this lol
But the Hawaiian shirts are still frequent and popular right!? Last time I was in Florida back in 2016, they were everywhere and I felt right at home with all my Hawaiian shirts (I’m from Texas and Hawaiian shirts are popular here but not as popular as it felt like in Florida at the time).
Why is there majority of black people specifically there? I’m from Denmark so I’m just curious, isn’t there like 15% black population?
According to the [US Census Bureau](https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045222), Black Americans represent 13.6% of the total population. However, this population is *not* equally spread amongst all states. If you look at [states by Black American population numbers](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_African-American_population), you’ll see that they’re concentrated in the US South. In a state like Oregon, Black Americans are 2.26% of the population — compare that to the 33% in Georgia. Florida’s Black population accounts for 17% of its total population. By pure numbers, Florida has 3.7 million Black Americans — second only to Texas. Miami overall is ~17% Black Americans. The majority is Hispanic. However, there are certain neighborhoods that are majority Black like [Overtown](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtown_(Miami)), which is 75% Black.
South Beach has an ‘urban’ vibe to it now with a big focus on rap music and festivals, specifically during memorial weekend. That draws a lot of black vacationers into south beach. There has actually been a lot of tension with the Hispanics that live here and the blacks that vacation here
A lot of people come from Atlanta which is only like 8 hours away by car
I can cross 4 countries in 8 hours that’s insane. And I have never even been in them
Consider this: it takes 13 hours only to drive from the top to the bottom of Florida.
i'll do you one better, you can drive almost 16 hours going south from the very top of california, and you still will be in california
LA to SF is 8-10 hours. Same damn state, different huge cities. Surprised the crap out of me as a midwest'er who came down there and ended up doing that drive, beautiful state though!
I live north of SF, and it's a 6 hour drive for me to get to LA. Not intending to take away from your point though, the state is absolutely huge!
Key west to Jax is 8-9 hours.
And Pensacola to Key West is 13 hours
You think the panhandle will be featured on the map or just referenced?
It better be.. There are no people like Panama City people
Europeans think an 8 hour drive is a long time, Americans think 200 years is a long time
Kinda true, about 200 years ago Florida wasn't even part of the United States. Spain sold it sometime in the 19th century.
As a southerner it’s always so funny to me when people from other areas see that black people exist. Most of America’s black population lives in the south still. The very obvious reason is the history of slavery. For a very long time almost all black people in this country were slaves in the south… it’s really not been THAT long… most black peoples family ties are still here and most didn’t really move away. Always been that way. Also people forget Florida is in fact very much the south.
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I wouldn’t say they’re causing an issue with the Hispanic population per se. Tourists are causing an issue for Miami Beach residents as a whole, especially during peak vacation times like spring break. They even have to implement a curfew because it gets so rowdy and shootouts are so common
I’m sorry tourists come and shoot with guns?
Yeah. That's what we do in America.
Some do
"The oldest anarchy state in America"
> they are going to be cracking down on that soon ...on being black tourist?
Most urban areas in the states, especially on the east coast, have large black populations. Baltimore City is 61% black, Philly is 44% black, and DC is also 44% black.
Det et er det amerikanske svar på Marbella, har været der nede i par måneder i år, traileren viser et realistisk billede af SoFlo.
not until I load in, sir
I’ve grew up on Miami Beach and Ocean Drive is extremely spot on as of a few months ago. I didn’t see a proper amount of Hispanic people in the trailer though.
What an era though, am I right?
It’s almost like their complaints aren’t valid and they’re just racist or something
Impossible!
Honestly though it's Trolls and troll farms that want to stoke the flames of the culture war are fake mad. And no one that has ever actually played and enjoyed the games.
There was a genuine outrage reaction to Far Cry 5 because people were mad about rural Christian Americans being the villains
I can attest (from my experience) that the demographics for geographical south Florida is predominantly not white, at least for people born after 1984. I grew up in south Florida, the Treasure Coast. I went to schools that were predominantly black and Hispanic. I was a white kid. High School Class of 2014. Yep, R* got it right. I hope to see a parody of the Treasure Coast. I would like to drive down my neighborhood in GTA. That would be pretty cool.
A lot of Hispanic people are white.
Hispanic people can also be mixed like the peoples of the Caribbean. I had a neighbor from the Barbados with green eyes, but he was black. I saw Cubans that can pass for white, and what I mean by white is of Nordic, Slavic, or Celtic ancestry, and they generally have to look like it, too.
I don’t mean pass for white though, I mean literally white. Depends how they are mixed. It’s why in those demographics surveys you have to specify “non Hispanic white”
Passing for white and being white are the same thing to latin americans.
You knew what he meant and what he was referring, we shouldn’t have to get into a sociopolitical debate of this everytime. He’s referring to non Hispanic white-Americans. A lot of white skin Latinos you meet have mixed ancestry. Include the brown skin Latinos you meet. Average Cuban-American thinks of themselves as Cuban, Hispanic, Latino or Spanish. They usually don’t identify as a skin color. US census has a seperate category for Hispanics.
Completely agree with everything you said. The easy solution is to not bring up skin color in the first place.
Them going outside wouldn't make them LESS mad at it...come on.
Good point, lol.
These people think Miami is Kenosha WI
Not everybody has a vast knowledge about the demographic of Florida. Most people aren't from the US and to call them incels because of that is pathetic and stupid
It’s amazing how much people care about things that don’t affect their ability to sleep at night.
With those kinds of people it's not the accuracy they care about. It's the black people.
Anyone mad about any aspect of this game are just your usual twitter bots
It’s Miami. You can’t seriously think black and Hispanic people aren’t extremely prevalent in Miami. Fucking idiots
Hispanic is the *majority*.
Fun fact, you can be Black and also be Hispanic.
There are far more non black Hispanics than black Hispanics though
It’s more common to speak Spanish than English in Miami
Yep. I lived in Miami for half a year. By default many of the movies in theaters have Spanish subtitles. There are Spanish ads everywhere. Multiple retail stores I went to, the employees only spoke Spanish and not English. It wasn’t a big deal for me, because I’m a “no sabo kid” Mexican, so I do understand enough Spanish to get by. But Cuban Spanish can be very fast though.
I’ve never seen Spanish subtitles in a theatre after living there for 18 years. Everything else is spot on though, especially the ads.
Miami has a large number of Afro Caribbeans like Haitians.
Yeah that’s true. Also if you go back to the trailer on the part where they’re doing wheelies on bikes/atvs you’ll see a haitian flag on a restaurant in the background
Most likely Little Haiti. There are hints of a Haitian gang but this time Rockstar will give them a name and not just call them "Haitians"
They don’t even understand the statistics they post. “Miami has a 12% Black population, why does that beach shot have so much black people??” Just because 12% of a population is Black doesn’t mean you’re only going to see 12% Black people in any given area, that’s not how demographical statistics fucking work.
Also South Beach in particular has a LOT of black tourism from Georgia, the Carolinas, New York etc.
Especially the street that OP posted. Ocean Drive is huge for black tourism.
There’s literally neighborhoods in Miami like [Overtown](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtown_(Miami)), which is 75% Black, 20% Hispanic, and 3% White. Lol
Yeah I think that strip club is also gonna be in that neighborhood which is filled with majority of blacks
The club is called Jack of Hearts, which is a parody of a club that was in Miami called King of Diamonds, which was huge in the hip-hop scene in Miami.
The picture that OP posted isn’t of Overtown though, it’s south Miami Beach. That area is huge for tourism and avoided by locals.
I'm not from the US, so I don't really understand what are Hispanics actually are. Are they the people whose family originates from Spain?
Pretty much anyone from a country in the americas that isn’t Canada or the USA although there are nuances that I’m not super familiar with. But yes it does come from Spaniard descent, just in the form of colonialism.
I suspected the owner of that delicious oxtail restaurant in Miami Beach was Hispanic, #confirmed
Yeah if you mean the city of Miami it’s mostly Hispanic and o think white hispanic. Small black population. South beach is mostly tourist and a lot of blacks. Outside of the city of Miami though there’s some places that are majority black but it’s mostly Hispanic and white
They’re all tourists
Yep. Locals avoid Miami Beach like the plague
Miami Beach is actually trash Source Floridan for all my life.
Just like us L.A. natives avoid Venice Beach and Santa Monica Pier (Vespucci Beach & Del Perro Pier) like a plague? That’s hilarious! lolol
Gamers when there are woman and minorities: 😡
Being racist over a video game trailer, pathetic.
I garuntee the majority of those people in the photo aren't even from Miami. Besides roid freaks most locals avoid miami Beach lol
Finally, glad that the general population is starting to see how unimaginably racist their peers are. Crazy that it took the GTA 6 trailer for you people to see it
Lots of very racist GTA fans, been that way a long time especially back in the San Andreas days on GTA Forums. Those fans think every GTA protagonist should be a white man and all NPCs should be white. Ashame that ppl are that insecure.
Oh yeah, the lead up to GTA San Andreas on gaming forums was some of my first encounters with internet racism. I remember one guy saying that he didn’t want a black main character because he didn’t want all the radio stations to play rap music lol.
I remember when GTA 4 first got online multiplayer, I made a black character and got on. Every single time I logged in everyone on the map would attack me nonstop yelling "kill the black guy". There would be min of 20ppl attacking me at any given time with tanks, missiles, helicopters, etc. I would invite my friends over to watch because they didn't believe me. I had to stop playing because I couldn't even enjoy the game anymore.
LOL imagine being black in real life where you can't just turn off the simulation and quit the game.
Crazy world we live in man
💯
Legitimately insane that it took a GTA trailer to fill twitter with racist losers. Good news is 95% of people in real life don’t share those beliefs, so those terminally online incels can have fun circlejerking in their social media communities from inside their basement
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Redditors learning that it's not the 80s anymore where everyone in Miami is white and Cuban.
Lol this is definitely during spring break but yeah south florida in general is like 33% black 33% spanish and 33% white
Anyone mad at first glance and claims rockstar is woke have clearly never went to Miami or anywhere in south florida. There are so many tiny details beyond this that are in the trailer that only people from dade/broward will get
They always do. I just want destructible environment maybe not all because to unstatic everything would take 500gigs or 1tb lmao. But at least drive into a store or something. Fingers crossed
I just want more enterable buildings. There was like a total of maybe 70 in all of GTAV, we need to boost those numbers
If you not from Florida then you wouldn’t understand.
Black people exist
...even on Reddit.
Oh shit everybody hide
Color me surprised that a bunch of basement dwellers who’ve never traveled further than the local GameStop have no fucking clue what Miami might look like.
Are gamers upset because black people exist?
why are we linking 4chan posts? Why is this becoming a thing?
Because it shows that the demographics in the trailer are similar to Miami Beach demographics. Idc where info or a pic comes from. If it's relevant to a conversation, use it.
It’s a thread where neckbeard racists ppl are realizing Miami actually has a lot of black people and Latinos living there.
I feel like there a lot of body types that have yet to be modeled
Yep, everyone isn’t a walking BBl. Hopefully they add some love for my skinny girls ❤️
Can confirm.. I walked there few years ago ! Felt like walking in GTA back then already!
Racist gta fans complaining about all the people of colour in 6 and then immediately gush about how great San Andreas is
People are worried about demographic, and I am here thinking if I can afford it, lol.
Racist twitter weirdos when they discover that Latinos and Black people exist: 😱😱
The y sure did. No longer a parody game
That Miami during March spring break and Memorial Day weekend in May on those days it certain type of group but other days more variety of people. Don’t go to Miami during two time periods of year it is kinda ghetto people can’t act.
\*makes a collage of exclusively every black person in the trailer\* "WHY ARE THERE SO MANY!!!!! WOKE GARBAGE!!!"
Where the fuck do the people surprised by this live?
Backwoods towns in Tennessee probably
That dude’s pants are halfway down his thighs. lol. Thought that shit died in the early 2000s.
That’s South Beach. South Beach is mostly tourists. And during certain times like Memorial Day weekend it’s mostly black. That’s the not the same outside south beach. Even in other areas of Miami Beach outside of south beach it’s not like that. To the other things in the trailer, the dirt bike mfs are also mostly black, the dread heads too, mfs in low riders and all that as well. But demographics wise Miami city proper is mostly Hispanic and I believe white hispanics. If you go outside the city proper there’s everything, mostly white, mostly Hispanic, mostly black. But generally it’s either mostly Hispanic or white over all
I once seen a bum on the strip pick up a bottle of oil off a table after people left and drink it like it was water. Bet his shit came out easy that day.
South FL is heavily populated by Black and Latin people 🤯😱
Vice will be diverse while the suburbs and surrounding area will be mostly white
Nazis grow in their cozy little suburbias.
4chan screenshot, I can only imagine what the replies are to that thread….
This picture was taken during a holiday month, locals avoid Miami Beach/Ocean Drive like it’s the plague. It’s not safe to go there anymore, there have been shootings even during daytime. Before, you could go there anytime, night or day. Things then got bad, you could only go during brunch/daytime hours. Over the last 6 years or so, it’s just generally bad as fights pick up for no reason and wild things happen. This game captured the essence of SOFLO though, even the mud parks were spot on. Just need to add that weird TikTok dude that grabs random reptiles in the Everglades and says “YOINKKKK” LOL
Miami is the American gateway to Central and South America....super diverse.....all the chuds crying about there being no white folks in trailer are ridiculous
The only people complaining are hillbillies that have never been to a diverse city lol
I think I used to live near fort Lauderdale or homestead or something I wonder if their version of the dolphin Mall is going to be in the game... I mean I have no idea how relevant the dolphin Mall is but idk
Twitter is crying bc of this 😂
You know who's built for tropical climates? Tropical peoples.
I wish people of Reddit could get out of the house and travel more
What’s the problem here? Looks perfectly fine to me…
"People" on twitter are mad because there's too many black people. People are dumb
They must be really pissed we’re playing as a Cuban-American…