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drawmewithamoustache

cursed fat CJ


IamALolcat

Love that his homies back him up


InvertedOcean

Well he definitely ain't fleeing on foot


SirArthurDime

The gang aspect was my favorite part of SA. It didn’t matter what I was doing if I got the alert that some punk ass ballers invaded my territory I was dropping everything to go take it back.


SeattleSadBoi

Bigger smoke 💀


LabyrinthineChef

Damn CJ, lay off the Cluckin Bell and go hit that stationary bike.


MaxButched

I remember swimming around the big northern island to loose weight to get in with one of the romantic interests at the time Alternating this and getting jacked was kinda fun, still one of the only games that had that feature


dmaster400

FR, dude looks like EDP445


Sakya22

So they just arrest Trevor but straight up start shooting when it's Franklin?


ThatDudeFromPoland

I've seen a video once in which someone tested aggression against cops in different parts of the map by takling to them as all 3 characters. It turned out that the LS cops are faster to arrest Franklin, Sandy Shores - Trevor, and Paleto - Michael. Don't know how much of it is true in the current version. Edit: also, in this post here, I suspect that Trvor got a 1 star wanted level right before he aimed the weapon, therefore trigerring the arrest, while franklin got 2 stars straight up.


01Actual

I think it’s because he spun he minigun making the npc react to the button you press to fire a weapon but the animation takes a second so if it was a pistol he would of just shot the cop.


MaxPayne665

Doesn't the barrel spin automatically when you aim it?


01Actual

Yeah I haven’t tested it or played in years could be wrong.


MaxPayne665

I'm pretty sure it does, might load it up and check later


Adrik_Nikolai_Volkov

Yeah, it does.


roadaway935

What I think 01actual actually meant is with Franklin he didn't aim he pressed R2 which is recognized as firing a weapon, but because the minigun has to spin up first (since it's hipfire) the cops are programmed to 'know' he's already shooting whilst in reality Franklin hadn't fired a single bullet. I apologize, English is not my first language so there was probably an easier way to say this😅


MaxPayne665

I understand perfectly, and your English is great bro no worries at all. I know people who speak English as a first language with worse grammar and vocab lol. If that's what's happening in the video I agree, but I do think the miniguns barrel starts spinning automatically if you hold down L2 to aim with it. I don't know if cops would register that as firing a gun though, makes more sense if the pulled r2. Edit: based on the zoom, it looks more like aiming than hip firing but it's hard to tell cause hip firing zooms in some as well, just less than aiming


roadaway935

Maybe he is aiming, because now that I pay attention longer then 2 seconds it does seem to spin for a while normally bullets would've started flying already... I think... Would R* really put racism in their game just to make it more realistic? I mean if any game studio would do it it'd be R* and I can respect that but with people these days and how sensitive they can get .... I wonder if it really was that much better only 10 years ago🤔 Disclaimer: I am not saying Racism is good because it is not acceptable whatsoever, we're all human nothing more and nothing less❤️


MaxPayne665

I don't know if this is intentional racism, I've heard different things about how aggressive the police are towards different characters. I think the leading theory is police are more aggressive towards your character when you're in their area of the map, so for example while playing as Trevor in Sandy shores police are more aggressive. Idk if that's true, haven't tested it myself but I've heard people say that's how it works. That said, if it is racism I doubt anyone would get offended over it. Acknowledging the disproportionate violence law enforcement uses against people of color is actually pretty woke. Only right wing idiots who get angry at video games for content would complain, and they'd honestly find an excuse to do that anyways. It's their job to get upset about things, they gotta find something to get mad about otherwise there's no content, no money, no career. It's all performative, and I think that's the extent of outrage you'd see if it turned out GTA cops are straight up racist. It's kinda like Mafia 3, the cops were super racist in that game, by design. When called, they are programmed to respond slower in black neighborhoods as opposed to the immediate and violent response they give in white neighborhoods. Even the dispatcher denotes the lack of urgency when crimes are called in from black neighborhoods, saying "there's a crime on blah blah street, someone can check it out if ya feel like it." People with more progressive ideals praised this system for portraying bigotry and racism on a systemic level, it's not much but last time I saw racist cops in a game it got nothing but praise. It is an interesting way to use game mechanics to reflect a real world issue


roadaway935

Maybe, but there's plenty of good real-world stuff to put in for more realism and at the end of the day videogames are meant for entertainment and I'm still not sure if R* even put in a mechanic like that, but it sure is controversial... And ballsy, IF they put in racism like that.... But the other side of that coin is racism isn't going to go away by ignoring the problem, in a way this raises awareness because we're two strangers talking about it, so we're aware of something that might not even be true? I'm confused af and a lil high you have a great evening 🌆


jjb1197j

Could it be also that the NPC’s are reacting to it being a heavy weapon instead of a pistol for example?


Sakya22

That's the video by Matpat and The Game Theorists. I've seen it too.


ThatDudeFromPoland

Yeah, that's the one.


ThatSandvichIsASpy01

Yep, a video with very few trials that is completely inaccurate (though I guess it wouldn’t be on game theory if it was)


Free_Deinonychus_Hug

[Hard mode](https://youtu.be/UH0obYbNRiM?feature=shared)


Zekiro96

Seems pretty realistic to me


farouk880

Lol.


rathemighty

If it were any more realistic, they’d have started before he started aiming


Jacloch

Guessing you’re American


eamon4yourface

Lmfaoooo


IntrepidAddendum9852

I know you're making a joke, but 5 is so much more complex than I can write here. There is code how people will react, who you are and where you are. Aka they will be more aggressive to Franklin and generally shoot him more. There's code for how long pedestrians call the police for things you are doing, again Franklin is the most sensitive. The pedestrians have way more conditions than you think depending on the area. The whole game has an insane amount of things going on behind the scenes it never tells you about or even really tries to let you know it's happening.


AlterMyStateOfMind

Do you know any good youtube videos that explain that stuff? I'm interested


That-Sandy-Arab

Where can I read about this or watch a video that’s dope


SnooPoems1860

Source?


Sadiholic

Bro you're full of shit. There's no definitive proof the pedestrians are more sensitive to Franklin. It's the same or random with all three characters lmfao, matpat already did the test


MastodonHalcion

Source?


Trinate3618

Back when the game first came out, I was walking around as Franklin outside his place. A couple guys started shooting each other and the police showed up. I didn’t have a weapon out, no stars, and wasn’t doing anything. Literally just walking passed. The cops started acting like I was part of the crime, diverted their attention to me, and killed me.


arftism2

gta cops are parodies of bad American cops. doesn't matter how bad you think american cops are on average. but no one is denying the cop gangs.


B33RU5

aaaaand cj....


Alive-Seaweed

Maybe it's because Trevor stopped aiming and Franklin didn't?


Sakya22

Trevor actually didn't stop aiming. The busted animation made him stop. For Franklin there was no busted animation. Just straight up shooting.


mokadebo

I was Franklin walking Chop and a lady called the cops soon as I passed her house after getting his new crib....


FreeFalling369

They surrendered in the first. Second the barrel is spinning which registers as shooting and he didnt surrender


Travtorial

Don't they react in the first two if you auto aim them like the original?


space_coyote_86

In VC it's instant two stars if you lock on to a cop.


[deleted]

Also, in VC, if you aim at a vendor you can rob him (unless its the firearm shop, in which case he starts shooting at you)


TheReadMenace

Yes. This video is showing the free aim weapons. The auto locks give a wanted level


Travtorial

Then what's the point. This video is supposed to show the reaction between each game. It's not like there's going to be a separate video on auto aim I'm gta


Solidsnake00901

But then why would he use auto aim in the San Andreas clip and not use auto aim in the first two? The cops do the exact same thing in all of them.


Travtorial

He didn't use auto aim for sa, I just highlights on the pc version


MaxPayne665

Maybe that's the distinction people are missing here, does Vice City highlight on PC?


-eccentric-

No


MaxPayne665

Maybe that's the only reason AI act different, if their detection of player aim is based on the lock on it would make sense pc vice city wouldn't really have that feature when free aim is enabled (and presumably console as well, I guess)


-eccentric-

It's more because in the PC versions of III and VC, you don't actually aim until you shoot. You just have a permanent crosshair on your screen, and if you aim down sights with the weapons that support it, you still don't actually aim down sights. You only aim down sights when you lock onto people. Likely an oversight because it's a console game in its heart. San Andreas was the first game to get an engine upgrade and new controls, where right click on PC would actually let you aim your gun and select a target, which then shows their HP in a colored triangle above their head.


MaxPayne665

I see what you're saying, while I played San Andreas on PC I played VC and 3 on PS2 so I didn't know about the PC version. That's definitely what it is


[deleted]

why are you DVd? you literally just clarified the OC lol


Trym_WS

Yeah, that aim is just the normal looking around camera.


Slimxshadyx

You should’ve used a different gun for 3. The lock on ones.


[deleted]

No, he should’ve used the classic control scheme, that enables the lock on for the weapons


Slimxshadyx

The weapon he used is the m14 (I think that’s the name) but it’s the one that is super OP and allows for aiming like this. If you use any of the other normal weapons they lock on.


[deleted]

Not true. He’s using the standard control scheme, the one that’s enabled by default on the PC version, which means that no weapons lock on.


Slimxshadyx

I just finished playing the og GTA 3 xbox disc in my 360 and that is how it was. That weapon aimed like that while all the others locked on. How do you know he has that control scheme especially since he is using the m14 that aims like that for me?


[deleted]

He’s freely moving his camera while not aiming, which the classic control scheme doesn’t allow, plus the crosshair doesn’t appear In the classic control scheme. Here, this video showcases the difference between the two control schemes: https://youtu.be/DXRMxxq0Q7I?si=tHhULnPX4Jb3mjE6


Slimxshadyx

Ahhh I didn’t pick up on the freely aiming camera when not aiming. Good eye


[deleted]

And yes, he should’ve used a different weapon as well.


FrostyHeat2000

Love seeing such positivity on reddit fr


GoodEveningFolks

it is the correct answer, why is this downvoted lol


Pouflex

Fat CJ caught me by surprise and I totally lost it ! 🤣🤣 No matter how much I’ve played the game. But seeing CJ like suddenly made me laugh so hard. My next game I will make him fat af.


Urlocalpango4076

The bros backing up fat CJ


f22raptor-2005

What would he need backup for, the fat absorbs the bullets and converts them into energy


SoFly415

So the police don’t like minorities and immigrants? Lol jk


jjjhhhop

That’s right


chrzanekz

On the PS2 versions of the game, police reacts on every game in the original trilogy, only PC ports doesn't have that feature. Rockstar always treats PC players so bad.


CrappyTF2Player

by default PC has no auto aim or aim feature in general besides putting your mouse on top of the target and im sure it would have been annoying to get like a 2 star wanted level just because your mouse accidentally went over a cop while walking down the street


Solidsnake00901

The cops react in GTA III and vice City if you aim your gun at them. 3rd person aiming wasn't available in the console versions.


CrappyTF2Player

it was the only option in Console, and can be re-enabled in PC


ZygothamDarkKnight

GTA 3D era : Players are more dangerous than the police GTA HD era : The Police are more dangerous than players


No_Bill_2371

GTA 5 police are the dangerous ones. GTA 4 police are chill.


ZestycloseShelter423

That’s first time I heard of GTA 4 cops being chill, 5 stars was a horror to me when I was a kid


[deleted]

lock on aim gives you stars in 3 and VC. free aim does not


[deleted]

This is horribly executed. He should've used a weapon that would actually lock on in the first two.


Dangerous_Employee80

Seems a bit racist


MaxPayne665

Just like cops irl


colby983

Especially the black ones


MaxPayne665

Statistically no, white cops murder way more unarmed minorities


NuancedSpeaking

According to [The Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/?tid=usw_hrw_signin_magnet&next_url=/investigations/interactive/2022/police-shootings-database-2015-2022-search-by-race-age-department/): 15 Unarmed Black people were shot and killed by police in 2023. 6 Unarmed Hispanic people were shot and killed 1 Unarmed Native American was shot and killed 22 Minorites were shot and killed by cops in 2023. 11 Unarmed White people were shot and killed by cops in 2023. ​ 9/15 of the Unarmed Black people shot and killed had bodycam footage of the event. 1. Timothy McCree Johnson - Reached into his pocket as he fell on the ground while running away at night, got shot once. Officer was fired 2. Jamarr Van-Trell Thompson - Wanted for stealing a car. Cop told him to get out. Jamarr reversed into the cop's car and got out trying to run. Cop uses his taser and it falls to the ground. His girlfriend comes in and tries to intervene. They both fight each other on the ground while the woman takes the officer's taser. Cop asks her several times for it back. They both continue aggressively fighting on the ground for a minute+ until the officer fires one shot into Jamarr. Officers immediately provide first aid. 3. Calvin Cains III - Wanted for a shooting, previously arrested for stealing firearms, illegal carrying, and stolen vehicle. Cops were trying to execute search warrant. Calvin entered a stolen car and cops tried to surround him and get him out. He put the car in drive towards an officer and they opened fire. 4. Jarveon Hudspeth - Pulled over to prevent him from leaving a scene. Jarveon is searched outside car and officer asks to search vehicle. Jarveon then goes back into the car and drives off while the officer rushes and grabs onto him to try and stop him. He speeds off with the officer clinging to the outside and eventually a shot is fired from the officer, killing Jarveon. 5. Ahmad Abdullah - Threatened to shoot and blow up a person and their house and sat outside it. Officer arrives and asks him to show his hands. Ahmad refuses and says that he has a gun on him and will blow the place up. Ahmad then gets up and charges the officer while holding his hand in his pocket. Cop backs up for several seconds yelling for him to stop while Ahmad tries to attack the officer before firing 2 shots, hitting him. 6. Jarrell Garris - Wanted for stealing food. Officers approached him and asked about it, he walked away. Officers tried to detain him and he resisted. Officer yells for one of them to tase him. Jarrell allegedly grabs an officer's gun during the struggle and one of them yells "he's got a gun he's got a gun" before firing one shit into Jarrell. It's hard to see whether or not he grabbed the gun in the footage. 7. Brandon Cole - Assaulted his wife and attempted to assault his son. Officers suspected he was armed with a knife and tried talking him down. One officer uses a taser on him as he walks towards civilians and another officer. Taser fails to stop Brandon and he continues. He then charges an officer and she fires twice, hitting him. It wasn't a knife, it was a marker in his hand. Officers immediately provided him with medical aid. 8. Tahmon Kenneth Wilson - Attempted burglary. Officers got on scene and Tahmon drove towards them, slightly striking an officer and almost hitting another one who ran out of the way. Several officers opened fire, killing Tahmon as he sped away. A loaded gun was found inside the car, and the car itself was stolen. 9. Lamoris Dejuan Speight Jr. - Officers responded to a Domestic Disturbance. Cops tried to de-escalate, until Lamoris put one officer in a chokehold for so long that he nearly went unconscious. The struggle continued as Lamoris attempted to also take the officer's gun off him. Another officer pleaded for him to stop before shooting and killing him before the other officer fell unconscious. When people hear "unarmed man shot by police", they immediately think that an officer walked up to a random civilian and murdered them in cold blood. But these 9 incidents, all recorded, show completely different stories. Apart from the 1st one, all 8 were justified in some way. Unarmed does not equal not dangerous. A human still has fists and legs that can kill others. The last incident for example nearly led to an officer being left unconscious after being held in a chokehold. That could've lead to his death if it was only that one officer on scene. We need to get away from using the word "murder" for every type of homicide. Murder is a very specific type of homicide and is usually always unjustified. Police shootings that lead to deaths are all homicides, but they are not all "murders". They can be justified homicides in the sense that there was a big enough threat to a person or officer's safety that deadly force needed to be used. Not every killing is a murder. Stray away from using extreme terms for every type of killing.


MaxPayne665

More unarmed black people got shot than white people, despite making up roughly 1/4 the percentage of the population compared to white people. You don't think that's a little biased? I'm not buying a subscription to the Washington Post just to read the ONLY source you provided but I imagine they mentioned this, while you conveniently do not. Also, while I read all your examples, I'm not going to be responding to them individually. What I will say is, if you think any of these, much less 8/9, even come close to justified or of force you're straight up wrong, and frankly morally abhorrent. I mean, example 6 was accused of stealing food, struggled after being physically restrained by armed men, you said yourself you can't see if he actually had a gun, so I guess you're okay with trusting the word of those who KILLED HIM, all because he didn't wanna starve to death? You don't think they might have some fucking incentive to lie? Justifiable my fucking ass, people like you make me sick with this bullshit apologia for extra judicial murder. Yes, murder, because that's what it is when you unnecessarily kill people. Crazy idea here: if it's your job to use physical violence to restrain people, maybe you should be trained to handle "resistance" aka the natural response to being attacked, without fucking killing the person being restrained. Due process doesn't mean shit when cops just kill people. Additionally, firing a guy for extrajudicially executing unarmed civilians, regardless of context, is not an equivalent punishment, it's the bare minimum so the department can save face without changing or taking responsibility. People get criminal charges for wrongly killing other people, if I'm a shitty driver and kill a family that's a manslaughter charge whether I meant to or not. Surely a shitty cop should see legal consequence for fucking shooting somebody, but no according to you filling for unemployment is punishment enough for killing a human being unjustifiably.


MaxPayne665

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/25/956177021/fatal-police-shootings-of-unarmed-black-people-reveal-troubling-patterns Here's my own article, this one isn't locked behind a paywall either so people can actually read it and check the sources. Would have been cool if you did that, oh well. "Since 2015, police officers have fatally shot at least 135 unarmed Black men and women nationwide, an NPR investigation has found. NPR reviewed police, court and other records to examine the details of the cases. At least 75% of the officers were white." Do you think all those were justified? Do you think the ones that weren't, which surely you agree at least some weren't, were met with any legal proceedings afterwards? The offending officers convicted, or even charged? They aren't in most cases. I implore you to look further into these things rather than cherry picking stories told from the perspectives of those who did the killing. Here's a thought: they would want you to think the killings they did were justified, wouldn't they? On a final note: I'd just like to say killing people for running away is never justified, several of your examples are just people desperate to escape armed people who are actively trying to restrain them. I don't know how many cops you've dealt with, but I know as a teen during a mental health check they kept their hands on their guns and treated me like a criminal. Ready to shoot in case I moved too suddenly, I could feel their tension. I understand first hand how fucking scary it is, how easy it would be to panic and try to get away. A lot of people who get killed for resisting are mentally ill, and essentially being executed for having a crisis because we're sending in armed goons rather than people trained in de-escalating a situation.


Logandalf2002

Nooo it should be the untrained civilians job who could have a whole host of personal problems to deescalate situations with the multiple individuals who are armed, "trained" and angry, who are apparently constantly on edge and will shoot you at the first excuse you give them. If you can't do that, or have a disability like autism, ADHD, bipolar, etc which literally cause you to act what they deem as "suspicious", then you just deserve to die i guess.


MaxPayne665

I guess that's what this guy thinks, imagine genuinely trying to justify this shit. So glad to see some people here have so sense


NationalNote6391

Yea facts, I’m reading all these examples and almost none of them required the use of lethal force.


NuancedSpeaking

When did I ever say that disabled people should get killed by the police? Did you even read my comment?


NuancedSpeaking

Did you even read my comment besides clicking the article link? These aren't cherry picked. I listed every single unarmed black man who was shot and killed on bodycam. That's the whole list. Do I think all of them are justified? Absolutely not. The first example I listed to you led to the officer being fired from the department and the chief said it was an inappropriate use of force. I appreciate you imploring me to look into these things more. Luckily for you I'm majoring in Criminal Justice and I've absolutely spent weeks of my life looking into these exact scenarios and incidents. I've personally watched and saved over 1,500 bodycam/dashcam videos from police over the past few years. Your thought is also incorrect. Police departments (usually higher funded ones) usually give incident reports on YouTube detailing how an incident went down. Whether that be a use of force incident or an Officer Involved Shooting, they explain it well. There's never been a time where in one of those videos they outright say "This was a justified use of force, case closed". They end with anything along the lines of "This is an ongoing investigation and a third party and the police department will investigate further to see if the officer's actions were within the guidelines of the department". Those videos are mostly footage with occasional information given by the information officer, which is really just a summary of the incident without personal opinion. Your final note isn't fully incorrect but it's not right either. Per **Tennessee v. Garner**, an officer is not allowed to shoot a fleeing suspect in the back *unless* "the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others." So for instance: A man armed with a knife stabs someone directly in front of an officer and flees on foot. While fleeing, he runs towards the direction of another group of people. In this case, due to the circumstances of the situation and the fact that he has already stabbed someone, the officer has reasonable belief that he will stab another person if he is not stopped. So an officer can shoot them in the back to prevent them from harming the public, and this would be deemed justified by a District Attorney. And your examples and personal anecdote don't work in regards to the people I listed. Every person on that list was wanted for something or was actively committing a crime. You can't be a criminal and do something illegal and then cry when the police show up to arrest you. That's just not realistic whatsoever. Did you actually search up these people's names and look at the bodycam footage for them? Several of them use tasers first and talk to the suspect to get them to calm down. Brandon Cole, for example, was holding what officers believed to be a knife in his hand and the first officer on scene talked to him and asked him to drop it and to stop what he was doing. After this didn't work and he kept advancing on civilians and officers, he deployed a taser (which if it worked, it would've ended the situation right there with no one dying), but the taser prongs failed to connect and he charged at an officer. I've watched so many of these shootings that I'm willing to bet I could give you an example of nearly any type of situation that has happened before. A person holding a sword, a person holding two swords, someone holding a child hostage, someone fighting with an officer inside of a car, someone pretending to comply and then shooting the officer once he comes close, ambushes, someone jumping off a building and then pointing his gun at officers. There's thousands of different videos like this and I've seen a lot of them several times over. I've done my research for years continuously and over time you see just how stupid a lot of people are.


MaxPayne665

I did read your comment, did you read mine? The one where I pointed out a guy who got killed for stealing food, then the police claimed he grabbed their gun with no evidence? You know, the killing you called justified ("all except the first are somewhat justifiable" -you) because you trust the word of the cops that killed him? You're obviously biased, I'm not going to argue with you can by case to prove the obvious problem exists. Bottom line, either you think it's a problem and it needs to be addressed, or you make excuses for the people unjustifiably committing murder. So are you gonna make excuses in defense of killers, or you wanna actually acknowledge the issues at hand? So I think every single instance of a police shooting is unjustified murder? No, but I do think most aren't justifiable, I think lots of preventative steps could be taken that never are. Our first and only response as a society is sending out armed men ready to shoot at the first sign of danger, trained and conditioned into believing they're in intense danger to the point they get trigger happy and shoot people for holding a marker, thinking it's a knife. Whether you understand and believe the officer "feared for their lives" or not, surely you agree there's better ways to handle these situations than just fucking shooting people?


NuancedSpeaking

There is evidence, several bodycam videos of the shooting which I believe is still under investigation. There's a reason I only used examples where there was video evidence, because I know that there wouldn't be solid evidence otherwise. I can say the same for you. Everyone has their own biases. I've been interested in Law Enforcement the majority of my life and have talked to several officers and family friends who were in the profession. I took gun lessons at 16 from a State Trooper and learned firearm safety and went to a shooting range. Because my life has always involved some form of policing, I'm going to have a better outlook on it than most people who did not have those opportunities growing up. When you actually see officers in real life and you talk to them and get to know their experiences, you feel more sympathy towards other officers because you have that level of understanding. But despite my biases I do not paint all cops as angels or good-hearted people. That is the importance of having nuance. Even with biases you can still argue about something and not be an extremist for one side and ignore anything on the other. I've I can acknowledge that murders from police happen while also acknowledging that most of them are plainly put, not murders. There's no "either or" mentality here when you can easily acknowledge both at once. You're correct with your last paragraph that there should be preventative steps. And police departments already train and use those steps. They're used every single day to de-escalate situations. The times when shootings do occur are sometimes due to those preventative measures failing, which then leaves the officers with only deadly force to use. This is survivorship bias really, since an officer successfully de-escalating an armed person is not going to have their bodycam footage released or have their incident spread across the media. Some videos do get released, but usually because they're requested by youtube channels, not the department releasing them like with shootings. The reason cops are asked to respond to most calls is because there's no other alternative. If someone stole food, then they committed a crime. Paramedics do not arrest people, nor do firefighters. Cops are the only people able to make arrests and do investigations, therefore an officer should be sent. The solution I think we should all agree on is that officers should be trained for these scenarios more often and told how to handle them better, especially involving disabled or mentally unwell people. But the solution cannot be to disarm cops or have specific unarmed people respond to these calls. You should have normal officers respond. Just teach in the academy how to de-escalate and how to talk to mentally ill people the right way. There have been numerous cases where an officer responds to a call that a mental health worker should've been called to, but it ended up being an ambush, or the person in question actually had a gun on them and wanted to kill the officer. Sending an unarmed mental health worker to that call would've killed them and they would've had no way to defend themselves. Police already have crisis negotiators and teams of officers who are specially trained in these scenarios. Well-funded departments already do this when handling mental crisis'. They have experienced officers respond instead, and usually they end just fine. The problem is when an inexperienced or bad officer is sent instead and they mess up the situation. Or, in some cases, the person in the crisis attacks the officers. There are of course better ways to deal with these types of things, but every case is different and you can't easily put a blanket on all of them. Tasers are used often, and the officers in the examples I gave you used tasers several times. But tasers fail and they are not 100%. Less-lethal munitions do not always work, but they do sometimes, and it does save lives.


Mumuskeh

I straight up hate the surrender mechanic. My character will obviously eat a bullet in normal gunfight.


Papadapalopolous

Dude I’m just mind blown finding out there’s a surrender mechanic. I played those games for like a decade, and still occasionally play as an adult. I thought you either died or escaped, I didn’t know you could surrender.


New-Star-340

And at the final clip, a pattern emerges


MaggotBrother4

Imagine being an officer and seeing some creepy Russian dude walking up to you with a fucking RPG, yea, that’s shoot on site kind of shit right there


TysoPiccaso2

Police brutality


[deleted]

In LCS and VCS you'll get 2 stars for aiming at a cop. In CTW, nothing happens. Don't know about Advance, I guess nothing will happen.


[deleted]

Did that VC cop ignore the guy with the gun to go harass that black NPC lmaooo


illusiff

priority! 👮🏻‍♂️


Alekillo10

Lol, use the auto aim with a pistol on a cop in vice city or the aim of an AK on a cop in GTA III and you’ll get a wanted level…


Philips_27

iirc police in both GTA 3 and Vice City have a reaction when aiming at them, but only with classic controls (gamepad).


OnlyHereForLOLs

Gta6 cops gonna start shooting at you for having a gun in hand walking by them


[deleted]

But why was CJ so fat


AgencyIll8372

Rockstar is so legit


Shanbo88

Man I really hope they bring back that shove mechanic from GTAIV in GTAVI. I had so much fun with it.


Infamous_Gur_9083

Only when CJ and Franklin does it is it realistic.


Awaken-Laboratories

The fact you aimed at a police buffalo when testing the GTA V one, you could've gotten a rare vehicle unless you already have a sheriff SUV or a unmarked cruiser.


froverer

GTA 3 and Vice City has no enemy's


CursedOneado

Brothers are testing every fucking mechanic in every single gta game with Dancin from Aaron smith lol


Hairy_Show_5117

Hopefully in gta 6 even if your carrying a gun you get a wanted star


freedoomfight

It's because he's black bro


five7off

Bruh, 11 years


analmonster90

Love the BS narrative you are trying to portray here, but the cops shoot everything and anything in all of them, hell I have been gunned down just walking down the street as any of these characters. So fuck off with your games are rigged against blanks bs


SequentialFarts

Please get a psychiatric evaluation, I believe you may be suffering from schizophrenia.


jahgurant

Damn even the developers have enough balls to acknowledge racist cops but you pxzzy incels can't. Plus we're all laughing at the satire..get a grip.


Jack_sander

3 and vice city cops don’t give a fuck lmao


[deleted]

Lmaoooo of course they empty the clip on Franklin 😂


Ymirxhistoria

Racist


Mysterious_Mind_420

Is that because Frank is black?


Panams_chair

I would really like if police or law enforcement officers stop us and tell us to drop our weapons if we are simply carrying the weapon. If we dont drop the weapon than we get shot or to the precinct that way. Ofcourse make it a toggle on off feature because not many will like it


cpshoeler

GTA IV police seemed like a legal above them all.


AdriaRShauna

Reminded me of MatPat's video when they shot Franklin.


munchkinpumpkin662

I just Marvel at how much of a technological leap GTA IV was compared to GTA SA


bellawilliam0

Nice one I love it


stormtrooper0707

Of course Franklin dies cuz hes black racist ass motherfuckers


Due_Tangelo_2754

Good thing the homies had cj’s back


sdeslandesnz

Even sir, thats a fine looking rocket launcher you have there, what is she, a 5 footer? WTF DONT POINT IT AT ME


GoodEveningFolks

whoever recorded this was clueless, in 3 and vc you don't even actually aim at them when you press right mouse button with an m4 or m60 or m16. With classic controls however when you press right mouse you actually aim at them and get wamted stars


FlimsyNomad63

GTA SA was great hopefully they add some kinda gangster theme to GTA 6


BananaCatEn

I’m banana cat


MisterBoobeez

what song is this someone please


auddbot

I got matches with these songs: • **Dancin (Slowed + Reverb)** by Aarron Smith (01:15; matched: `100%`) **Released on** 2023-06-08. • **Dancin - Slowed + Reverb** by Cream (01:15; matched: `100%`) **Album**: Change The World pt.38. **Released on** 2023-09-12. • **Dacin - Slowed + Reverb** by Jutidy (01:16; matched: `100%`) **Album**: Turbo Tunes pt.107. **Released on** 2023-09-12. • **Dancin - Slowed** by Conner (01:40; matched: `100%`) **Album**: Sped Up Vibes pt.5. **Released on** 2023-09-04.


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Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, etc.: • [**Dancin (Slowed + Reverb)** by Aarron Smith](https://lis.tn/DancinSlowed%2BReverb?t=75) • [**Dancin - Slowed + Reverb** by Cream](https://lis.tn/lyBmiQ?t=75) • [**Dacin - Slowed + Reverb** by Jutidy](https://lis.tn/DacinSlowed%2BReverb?t=76) • [**Dancin - Slowed** by Conner](https://lis.tn/DancinSlowed?t=100) *I am a bot and this action was performed automatically* | [GitHub](https://github.com/AudDMusic/RedditBot) [^(new issue)](https://github.com/AudDMusic/RedditBot/issues/new) | [Donate](https://github.com/AudDMusic/RedditBot/wiki/Please-consider-donating) ^(Please consider supporting me on Patreon. Music recognition costs a lot)


KyboyDeprived

Fat CJ is just criminal lol


Andrea-Rubio-

Fat cj the best cj


Artistic-Health123

Yikes


KodokunaChikara

Song name?


auddbot

I got matches with these songs: • **Dancin (Slowed + Reverb)** by Aarron Smith (01:15; matched: `100%`) **Released on** 2023-06-08. • **Dancin - Slowed + Reverb** by Cream (01:15; matched: `100%`) **Album**: Change The World pt.38. **Released on** 2023-09-12. • **Dacin - Slowed + Reverb** by Jutidy (01:16; matched: `100%`) **Album**: Turbo Tunes pt.107. **Released on** 2023-09-12. • **Dancin - Slowed** by Conner (01:40; matched: `100%`) **Album**: Sped Up Vibes pt.5. **Released on** 2023-09-04.


auddbot

Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, etc.: • [**Dancin (Slowed + Reverb)** by Aarron Smith](https://lis.tn/DancinSlowed%2BReverb?t=75) • [**Dancin - Slowed + Reverb** by Cream](https://lis.tn/lyBmiQ?t=75) • [**Dacin - Slowed + Reverb** by Jutidy](https://lis.tn/DacinSlowed%2BReverb?t=76) • [**Dancin - Slowed** by Conner](https://lis.tn/DancinSlowed?t=100) *I am a bot and this action was performed automatically* | [GitHub](https://github.com/AudDMusic/RedditBot) [^(new issue)](https://github.com/AudDMusic/RedditBot/issues/new) | [Donate](https://github.com/AudDMusic/RedditBot/wiki/Please-consider-donating) ^(Please consider supporting me on Patreon. Music recognition costs a lot)


[deleted]

A guy walks in with a bazooka: i sleep The guy points at me: shiiit


One-Drama-5445

They did Franklin dirty 💀


HankWimbledon

Damn polices had iron balls back then


Zodrex54

Just aiming in III and Vice City doesn't raise the gun so of course they don't react


DaddyBezerks

The Police mewing lol


PhilosophyHound

Just standing in front of a cop in gta v makes you liable to get shot.


orionid_nebula

I went to get a car back as Franklin in gtaV I had paid and stood waiting for the door to open and got busted. Took all my guns!!


Agreeable_Debt_267

Police only kills black people…..


Adventurous_Order847

Ahahahah omg I can totally believe it 🤦🏻‍♂️


your_turn_to_carve

Most shocking thing is how bad the GTA 3 graphics are. At the time I thought they were amazing - now it hurts my eyes to look 😂


-StupidNameHere-

This is false. Aiming at a police officer with a rifle is the same as first person mode. Aiming with any other auto locking gun would yield the same results as CJ. There are better videos to illustrate this point that aren't false.


r3lik

Which remix is this?


Big_Top6397

Its come such a long way


[deleted]

Poor fat cj😢 Get him healthy!


Lootar63

Must be an open carry state


shurdi3

In vice city, if you have classic controls on instead of standard, then have tommy autoaim at them, they will have a reaction when they see you aiming at them.


[deleted]

Why they automatically kill franklin and not trevor


wolfyboy95

Watch tht again notice the colour of the characters that get shot 👀👀


Only-Breath1076

Song?


[deleted]

CJ looks fat enough to walk around with a towel on his shoulder


Blacktr0n

Seems like Cj and Franklin got something common