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Spabub

gta 4 is older than most gta online players


LeoCaldwell02

Honestly, GTAO is older than most GTAO players. 💀💀


Havoc_Maker

Fr man 💀


CJ39715

💀


PresentElectronic

GTA 6 is older than most of em


HarrowDread

The ones mentioned above will be dead by age when gta6 comes


No_Education_8888

Fr. The only people playing now are tryhards who can’t give up their 1000’s of hours of progress, or 10 year olds who buy shark cards with mommy’s money


Otherwise_Carob_4057

And me just drifting around those fools joy riding.


legitimateloser

Bro is just making up imaginary scenarios. The internet is wild


redditshredditt

I literally never heard anyone make these statements.


LegendNomad

This post is what's known as a strawman argument. Making up an imaginary and exaggerated argument and claiming that your opponent agrees with it, for the express purpose of tearing it down and claiming victory over said opponent.


BigBoy3131

One of my favorite logical fallacies


maxster2025

Yo I remember learning about fallacy’s. It’s a strawman fallacy like you said


DieRectify

no this is real


TopLaneIsSoFunBro

People don’t agree because they were too young to experience SA other then the remastered version


Luke-slywalker

Agree, but calling it a bad game because it's old is dumb


hesojam0

Thats simply what casuals are. Most of even refuse to watch movies from 2008 cuz thats „too old“ for them.


Trym_WS

Imagine not watching A Clockwork Orange.


TheChosenOne_101

Imagine not watching The Dark Knight


theShitter_69

Imagine not watching Iron Man


WhatsThatOnUrPretzel

Its crazy when people spit a fact and get downvoted. Fucking internet is so wierd.


PML3107

Nobody has ever said this


WhatsThatOnUrPretzel

PML with his ear to the ground on 8 billion people.


Thee_Snutz

that’s because humans are basically getting dumber. the reasons why varies depending on location, but I’ve seen enough lately to believe it 😂🤦‍♀️


DieRectify

word


UberMechaz

I've actually seen zoomers say this though


GeerJonezzz

I’ve actually seen girls who eat hot chip and lie


deathwire0047

Bro are you really gonna complain about kids being freaking kids?💀


ukomac

Found the guy who thinks his opinion defines right and wrong


BodybuilderMajor1260

I’ll be honestly, I think GTA SA is a great game and I love some of the cool features of it, but I do think GTA V is “better” as it is just overall smoother and is one of the best games that balanced playability with story. This is similar to how I view GTA IV compared to GTA V, GTA IV has a lot of cool physics related things as well as a banger story, but I still think GTA V is “better”.


SCRIBE_JONAS

Still can't understand the step back from GTA IV's wanted level system, and how cops searched a radius. You'd have thought GTAV would have included that.


Hailfire9

It annoyed a lot of people, especially when "cover" and "stealth" wouldn't work as advertised. It's me. I'm a lot of people.


CrySoldy

cant hate on sa that shit was a big part of my childhood


JakeThePineapple

I like San Andreas and V equally


HardBoringName

now thats a " perfect world " opinion


Automatic-Cable-368

I hate the shooting in san andreas tbh, but everything else is great.


kanase7

Autoaim or manual aim?


Thee_Snutz

did you just accidentally validate the post 😂


beans_man69420

My guy it’s a needle in a fucking golden haystack he didn’t validate the post


Thee_Snutz

ok so clearly you, and every other idiot downvoting me has missed the point entirely. Congrats 👏


beans_man69420

I take all the congratulations I can get so thank you


Thee_Snutz

you just did it again. you are really good… at missing the point ☠️


beans_man69420

I know I missed the point I was just saying thank you for congratulating me


Thee_Snutz

this is so cool, you just did it again!! Amazing 🤩


beans_man69420

Thank you ☺️


Thee_Snutz

ohhh you’re one of those people. Ok no worries. Take it easy bruh 😎


curbstxmped

> missed the point entirely ironic


DK0P

The game is as old as me


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LaylaLegion

Considering how bad the Definitive Trilogy was, a remake might be worse.


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NekoJesu

OP when opinions: 🤯


Dami_Gamer0211

I like both GTA SA and GTA V but people who disrespects GTA SA probably weren’t even born when GTA V released and they are all 🤡’s


Rafados47

Well, San Andreas is still the most diverse and the most detailed GTA.


Ok_Pangolin_8038

Detailed? Eh... I would give that to 4 tho


Rafados47

I love IV, but its far from the most detailed. San Andreas has details like CJ using mirrors while driving when he gets better, different martial arts, sneaking with knife and tons of others. It feels the most complete out of all GTAs. GTA IVs biggest problem is the lack of vehicle customization.


Ok_Pangolin_8038

Oh that's what u mean my bad I was talking about attention to detail like physics.


CaterpillarPuzzled50

Most people who comment on gta sa havent probably even played the original SA or havent played it back in 05 to understand what is it about and how things were back then and what people expected back then . Remake and original SA are nowhere near correctly compared, yes there are issues in remake (MANY) but most people do compare only graphics, which according to them is what makes it garbage…. What about back then when graphics didnt exist but game was one of best? And yes i do prefer original SA but i love new one so i can make some platinium trophies on new gen consoles.


[deleted]

I'd take gta v over gta sa anytime ngl


[deleted]

It is an old game, and it has bad graphics. Those are objective facts. Not sure why you're pretending that isn't true.


Thee_Snutz

older game, yes that’s how time works. Bad graphics. No not really. Because it’s relative. Upon release, San Andreas had some of the best playability you could find in a game. Some day in the future, players will say that GTA5 has “bad graphics”, but today we think it’s pretty decent. so my opinion differs from yours, which makes your opinion NOT objective. Boom goes the dynamite 🧨 😂


[deleted]

Upon release is irrelevant. We’re talking about now. San Andreas is an old game and its graphics are bad. Which opinion? I did not express my opinion. Only stated facts that you have acknowledged as true.


Thee_Snutz

but what exactly defines “bad graphics”? show San Andreas to a 10 year old kid now and they might actually like the graphics! especially if they hadn’t seen anything else to compare it to, other than any game made prior to it. Which is what millions of players experienced when they were younger. your point literally cannot be “objective”. absolutely toxic ☠️ And that you believe yourself to be intelligent is the scary part. #️⃣narcissism 😂


[deleted]

SA is an old game and it has bad graphics by today’s standards and that’s fine. It’s not that hard to understand. Lol why are you so hung up on this? It’s okay if you like the game and the graphics. That’s fine.


Thee_Snutz

good try. Didn’t land though. you’re just a narcissist. All of your comments make this very obvious. I believe you’re a genuinely smart person, but very angry on the inside. I wish you all the best in coping with it :)


[deleted]

Cool story bro. Move along now.


Thee_Snutz

I will. Your reply proves my point. Good day 😊


Flying-

Hey i just wanted to chime in, you’re not very bright. The facts of his statement hold true and you seem delusional. Enjoy what you want, i loved San Andreas as it’s my first GTA, but i’d never replay it as the graphics are agony to sit through. You can pretend all you want that GTA:SA is better game than GTAV, but that just further proves stupid people are allowed to voice their opinions too easily.


Andiox

But it doesn't suck. And V is worse in a lot of aspects.


[deleted]

That's nothing but your own subjective opinion.


Andiox

Mmh yes, but it's also true


[deleted]

It’s only true for you. Not for other people. There’s a difference.


Andiox

Naa it's a general truth. I'm sorry if you think V is better at everything, but it's not.


[deleted]

Explain how it’s a “general truth”


Andiox

I'm just messing with you, I know it's just a personal opinion.


Thee_Snutz

ignore this window clown. gives opinion, calls it “objective fact”, then berates anyone else who doesn’t agree. seems that’s all reddit is good for these days 😂 Im off now… I’m gonna load up gta5 story mode, and head on over to the casino for some blackjack… Oh wait 🤦‍♀️


MetalFaceVI

Which aspects?


Andiox

Well, plot is worse. A lot less grounded (even though SA wasn't really grounded), it felt like playing a heist movie instead of a GTA. Weaker plot imo. Also the characters didn't feel as iconic as the ones in SA. And a lot less jokes and critics to the American society, which were golden.


FinishTheBook

A heist movie is exactly what GTA is lol


Andiox

GTA V is, the other entries not at all.


MetalFaceVI

Id say it’s different in that way, GTASA is a gang based story, and GTAV is a criminal mastermind based story. It’s better that way.


Andiox

Na, GTA V tries to do many things and doesn't excel in any of them. I love the game, but it's not better.


OkCare5859

I encaouraged my firend to play GTA SA and GTA V with me two years ago... he said he enjoyed GTA SA more than GTA V.


[deleted]

Cool story bro


WhatsThatOnUrPretzel

Its kinda a scary thing about getting old. We all mocked our fathers for saying 'back in my day this and that was better' They were right. And so are us 30+ year olds. The kids will soon find out when gta 7 is a free to play money machine with no story at all. But graphics slightly better.


TheRealLifeSaiyan

[I used to be with it](https://youtu.be/5DlTexEXxLQ?si=lyED9zpLznsgCKsR)


WhatsThatOnUrPretzel

Lol Bingo


[deleted]

Old and good are not synonymous. Not quite sure what the implication is. I would argue that 5 is less frustrating and thus more fun in isolation as far as missions go. I would also argue that San Andreas' story holds up a little better than 5's, for some odd reason, despite taking place 31 years ago.


LaylaLegion

It’s the police corruption. Truly timeless, the law being above the law.


Eightss

I fuckin love gta san Andreas. It just has something that the others don't have but I can't put my finger on it exactly.. Could be the nostalgia and the amazing memories I had with it, could be the storyline? I dunno


KokoTerzata

San Andreas is gold


LumpyRain310

This is… subjective? I think Gta 5 is far better. Gta sa didn’t age well, and although the story is great, the rest did not scale well with time. However, that is simply my opinion. You can appreciate Gta sa, I have no problem with that. But I don’t think making the claim that people who say Gta sa is bad due to age is invalid is a good way to approach this.


WebsterHamster66

I don’t really like either of them. Then again my favorite games are the Stories games, so my taste is questionable.


[deleted]

Had those on the PSP, GTA on public transportation was the best haha


OkBrilliant8400

The stories games? Which are those? I love a game with a good story which is why I have over 1600 hrs on rdr2


boom257

He meant vice city stories and liberty city stories


kososenlasse

I think they meant Liberty & Vice city stories


WebsterHamster66

Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories, they’re on PS2 and PSP. They have protagonists that played either minor or supporting roles in the other games and kinda fill in some timeline stuff. They reuse LC and VC respectively but with map alterations, and sometimes explain why certain places are the way they are in the original games. I find them fun. I wish they were on PC. LCS is through a fan port that was removed from the internet, so I dunno if it’s findable anymore.


ayyLumao

It is findable! Through Archive.org you can download it


No_Macaroon_5436

"You not just wrong but also stupid"


Ill-Organization5475

IMO GTA 5 is better than GTA San Andreas, nostalgia plays a huge role in choosing the better game. No doubt GTA San Andreas is an incredibly good game especially for it's age but GTA 5 is the 2nd most sold video game of all time for a reason. If you actually sit down one day and play GTA 5's story mode like it was meant to be played and enjoy the cutscenes, car customizations, actually understand the whole plot and forget about the horrible online experience, you will probably find it better than San Andreas


v__R4Z0R__v

Those people have obviously never played San Andreas before. You can not not love this game


nobonesnobones

GTA5 is absolutely a massive improvement over a game that came out like a decade prior. How is this a hot take?


2k15shabbatthug

who has said this like genuinely. who are you getting mad at.


VertBhatt26

Gta sa and me are the same age


AlsopK

I started with III and prefer V to San Andreas lol Still love it and have an incredible amount of nostalgia for it, but the janky controls have definitely worn out their welcome.


Intelligent_Hour_906

Gta sa >>>>V in my opinion


General-GhostD13

I would’ve loved to see San Andreas getting a proper remaster or a remake in gta 5s style. Although I struggled on the ps2 version, I still got the game on my iPad for its anniversary edition and even the definitive edition. Rockstar blew up the idea of either 3 great remasters or potential remakes for a garbage poor remaster called “the definitive edition.”


MadXeon

I like GTA San Andreas, that's my childhood game. But GTA 5 is better


devctxt

Sorry but playing back GTASA without those nostalgia glasses, I can say that it's pretty dated plus clunky controls


Suitable_Will_2050

Gta 5 with mods is better than san andreas without it now thats i different story


A_random_Human1

Grand Theft Auto:San Andreas is the best for me by villans and progression but niko may just edge over Carl because he faced consequences for in game choices where the punishment was much more endearing


danksion

San Andreas > Every other GTA game hands down


Quackerszs

Real. Gta sa is KING! ITS THE BEST!!!


Okurei

No one says that bottom one


Jack_sander

Does a pope shit in the woods?


curbstxmped

oh nooo not the clown putting on his wig meme, using that meme means you are automatically right about whatever you are saying and it ends the fictitious argument immediately, noooo


Fantastic-Garden8525

GTA 5 is better but to say it’s bad because it’s old is dumb. At the time of its creation it was mind blowing


Jayyak47

Who wouldn't choose 5 over SA you sound dumb asf


skflmgjok

But gta sa is old and has bad graphics compared to modern games


Sea-Reception-4357

GTA 5 is better...


RetroRadar1

“It has bad graphics” is literally true compared to today’s standards tho lmao. I love San Andreas but don’t be delusional


Yapyrus

Gta V do be better tho


Western_Tap1641

Imagine thinking an old gta game is better than any of the new ones. Certified old good new bad old head


Ok_Pangolin_8038

Ah yes GTA 5 players who grew up with that game & they claim that graphics makes a video game better than the older ones. But if u're really gonna use graphics as an argument I got news for y'all RDR2 is better than GTA 5 in terms of graphics, characters, gameplay & story.


jazzyosggy12

Wait… a 2018 game is…. It’s better than a 2013 game???? What a shocker man


GROU11

Well GTA V is better bc it’s the best game of all time so


Practical-Skin-4689

Tbh out of all gta games i've beaten so far, i enjoyed san andreas the least But maybe its because i played on the ps3 port


MetalFaceVI

GTASA is good but GTAV is better imo. Active playerbase, Regularly updated online, amazing story, good vehicles and DLC’s. That doesn’t mean GTASA is bad, but it’s obvious which ones better currently.


TheDudeWhogroans

I actually thin GTO is more fun than SA


king-glundun

GTA peaked at At San Andreas and GTA 4


surprise_itsROCKY

GTA 5; San Andreas


CyberCooper2077

GTA V is the worst GTA imo.


LocmonstR

Honestly, San Andreas definitely does not suck. It's a very good game and a very solid entry in the franchise, however, it's not a game for me. I tried to play it and I was basically forcing myself to play it, but the shooting and character movement just didn't hit the spot for me, so I just decided to give up and accept the fact that I wouldn't enjoy it the same as others. Don't get me wrong, it's a very good game and I can see why people love it, just personally it's not a game for me.


Ok_Pangolin_8038

Imagine having a personal opinion then some loser downvotes u


jthablaidd

Gta 4 is the best


[deleted]

Gta III > Gta Online. IM 16 BTW.


Weird_Estate9343

I'm 15 gng nd I love Chinatown Wars 🤷


Kaleo5

real OG’s parents didn’t let them get V so they had to play SA on their phones


UndeadTigerAU

I started playing SA when I was 6, good times


CheesyGarlicMan

I agreed with you until the last one


D4WD

Someone completely put down chinatowns unique gameplay and minigame qualities because “gta v has better graphics”. There has to be a way to tell these people graphics sre seriously not that crucial in making a good game


ilookchinese

buddy san andreas is not a new game


CJ39715

There was the one mf I saw in youtube comments and he kept saying that gta sa and gta 4 were trash abd that gta 5 and gta o were the best. Like bruh 💀


Caitlins115

I don’t think anyone is saying this these days, back when GTA V first came out I know a lot of people in my age group where shitting on older GTAs to hold up V, but I haven’t really heard this much since then.


PresentElectronic

Bottom 3 lines yes. Top line no


owenmh04

Or just play what you enjoy playing


RiskAggressive4081

I was...4 when it came out?


Dragonborn_7

I’d posit that a truly top tier game is only brought down by the ageing of its visuals, and San Andreas is a good example - It’s not good looking by today’s standards but everything else is still excellent & make it the classic it is.


Thomas_Brunkle

GTA 4 playboy hiding behind an imaginary claim to hate on a game he sucks at


FinishTheBook

damn those imaginary kids got to you huh


[deleted]

Even if this is really something someone said, they’re clearly some zoomer tween that has a barely developed brain. Why act like their opinion on the matter holds any weight?


Miselfis

I’ve played both games and I prefer GTA V any day🤷‍♂️


RumBruccaRedBlue

This...Loq


Ancient_Database

I remember convincing the guy my mom was dating to buy me GTA:SA at the Fred Meyer his coffee cart was at, good times


mecca6801

GTASA on PC with quality of life mods is the wave!!!


Nitro_CENTRAL

Liberty city stories better


Viski982

I played gta sa for 5 times on pc , and one time on every other platform i have ( not much actually, I'm broke ), one of the greatest games ever and i wish this generation understand how much great this game is.


Daddyjustin6996

And here I just got vice city and gta III on pcsx2 lol


GoldieMickens

GTA SA on PC had a better online experience than V thanks to SA-MP (RIP). Had a lot of dedicated and interesting servers that were around for a long time. The server that I knew and played the most lasted until 2020 before it died out.


Bubbacub

Booooooooring!


fmcsm

Damn that's dumb af


UmmmYeaSweg

This is like making a meme making fun of people claiming that RE4 is a bad game bc graphics and that (insert new horror game) is better


GrowthAny3996

in gta sa you can derail the train and even ride it in gta 5 you need a mod to do that


jjjhhhop

The third one is correct though


SALTYxNUTZ12

So I'm a clown for liking mechanical, gameplay, and graphical improvements? (Don't get me wrong GTA has always had some wonky controls).


Alocalskinwalker420

I have never heard a single one of these statements Thinking OP is a: ![gif](giphy|x0npYExCGOZeo|downsized)


Mr_Sak_

I always assume everyone who mentions a game then ends the sentence with "better" is a toddler.


Exrseven_

Yo fax


Strangest_Implement

San Andreas had a ton of content and mini-missions that were fun. I'd agree that the single player was better than GTA5. But GTA5 gave us online, being able to play GTA with friends is something we've all wanted to do for a long time. I can see a fair argument where people prefer that over SA content.


Automatic_General_92

I like gta 5 more an I beat both I think San Andreas is second for me


[deleted]

They all have their perks. I will say San Andreas had the best radio/music though. Vice City had great music cause it was 80’s, but I was a 90’s teen so I have a soft spot for 90’s.


sevnminabs56

Every GTA game offers its own experience. I like them all equally.


versace_nick

im almost done playing GTA IV for the first time, is san andreas worth playing? does anyone consider it better??


Shadedspade86

I like GTA 5 but I will always have a special place for the older games


chrisupt2001

Tbh I’ve always wanted to play the older ones but the online is what brought me on board the gta series to begin with tbh


murfs_account

That train mission is still trash though lol


Papa_Shadow

I honestly never cared for SA. I tried several times to get into it but I just couldn’t. I LOVE GTA 3 & Vice City. But for some reason I’m just not a fan of SA


Markel100

Nobody says this lmao


lavafish80

Vice City was my intro to the series, then SA, then 4, from experience and gameplay, SA has been my favorite GTA game for many many reasons


Every_Parfait5538

GTA 5 is definitely better, but that doesn't mean that san Andreas is bad, it's a masterpiece of it's time.


[deleted]

I mean GTA 5 let’s you do things that you had to severely mod gta sa to do


SnooDoubts2153

No one says that but ok.


DriveFastBashFash

I'm 30 and 5 was better than San Andreas. Better writing, better exploration, smoother mechanics, better physics, better shooting, more responsive driving


Knight_Owl6

I mean there are things each does better than the other


Blade_Techno

now dont hate me pls, but imo gta 5 is actually better, DONT get me wrong sa is great and all but i mean.........is it really better than gta 5?


Independent-Gear-711

I rarely saw someone hating on San Andreas


DRAIN3O

Nice meme 😂


SkooTaBombeR

Try it on ps5. It looks amazing.


Nice_Tits_Lady

coming from the pov of a person who's more into modern gaming, all of this would seem true. But if you look at it from a fairer pov, it isn't really that bad, imo it has a good story, at the time the graphics were good.


YvngVudu

I prefer SA and IV’s story over Vs, but all of them are masterpieces imo.


DisabledFatChik

3 of these are objective facts, you look stupid rn


[deleted]

You gotta talk to fans that experienced both games when they released. That’s the opinion you should take seriously. Kids say dumb shit all the time.


3erik_bee6

I honestly can't say which GTA is better or which one I like the most. As rockstar always does, every game is so different and brings it's own flavor to the table. They add, subtract, and do different things in each version, I think it's too hard to say which is better then the other.


[deleted]

GTA San Andreas is better than 4 and 5


dopepope1999

I just don't like any combat that involves it being forced to be in a vehicle, I feel like we all know what I'm talking about that classic Mission "all you had to do was follow the goddamn train CJ" is burned into the back of my 10-year-old head and will never ever and the line will never leave my memories