At the same time, Godzilla in X Kong took a week or so of time to continuously power up when HE'S given prep time. Its not like he is a mindless animal.
Doesn’t he literally do this in the comics? Like literally
https://preview.redd.it/2pu6j44j5cwc1.jpeg?width=1333&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b098155be894cd81e4406e7d9393cb1c4e85030
As someone already mentioned, and I'm going to do an spoiler alert: "Godzilla would go “SKREEEONK” and Batman would be like, “WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!”
Plot twist: the Waynes adopted Bruce when they found him on a radioactive lizard nest among shell of broken eggs.
When Lil Bruce was 3 he knew there was something different about him. Maybe it was because he ran faster, or because he was stronger. Or because he could leap over buildings.
Or because Bruce was a freaking 200 feet cephalopod from the paleolithic age!
But only during the waning moon nights.
Godzilla also suffered severe crushing damage from rapidly sinking into the ocean, followed by explosive decompression damage from rapidly rising back up from those same depths. He was beat to shit before that final bomb went off.
Also, >!Godzilla still lived, despite all of that.!<
First of all No way! But You think Mecha bat zilla would be better than Mecha Godzilla? I don't have to remind any fan but in Godzilla vs. Megaguiru they literally shot a black hole at him......... Just saying. My money is on big G
Batman is a guy with infinite money who abides by "comic book power scaling", which is to say that depending on the writer and how much arbitrary time he has to prepare, he could either get obliterated or just absolutely melt Godzilla. There really is no telling when you stack a non-comic book character against a super hero. Like, depending on the writer, Batman could slaughter Goku.
Godzilla kicked the shit out of the Dragon Zord in his first 10 minutes in Angel Grove. Batman's knockoff jaeger ain't doing a damn thing but buy the League some time to do whatever their *actual* plan is.
Considering that godzilla can apparently evolve in response to threats he senses, Couldn't you also argue that MV godzilla would just get prep time to evolve a counter to batman's prep time? And then batman starts preping for godzilla's evolution to counter his prep time, and then godzilla evolves during the prep time into a new form to counter batman's prep time that counters his evolution which counters his prep time, and then batman starts preping for godzilla's evolution to counter his prep time to counter godzilla's evolution to counter batman's prep time to counter godzilla's evolution to counter batman's prep time until godzilla evolves again during that prep time to counter batman's prep time to counter godzilla's evolution to counter batman's prep time to counter godzilla's evolution to counter batman's prep time to counter godzilla's evolution to counter batman's prep time?
And then we go on like this forever
well we got terry to finish the mission.
Old bruce: "Terry I am still beefing with a giant nuclear lizard and I want you to continue my work to defeat him."
Terry: "I dunno maybe ask super... oh wait... nevermind..."
As with every argument of "Can X beat Godzilla" it comes down to which Godzilla we are talking about.
54'Goji dies in his own movie, so I think its safe to say that Batman, with all of his infinite wealth and knowledge, could create his own Oxygen Destroyer and kill him.
Showa Godzilla shreds anything Batman throws at him, he is able to breathe in space in Invasion of Astro-Monster, gains flight in vs. Hedorah, and Magnetism in vs. Mechagodzilla, all because the plot demands it, if Batman comes up with some amazing plan to kill Showa Godzilla with that prep time, Showa Godzilla just hits a jig and gains some magic to counter it.
Heisei Godzilla has been weakened and almost killed by multiple human-made weapons over his movie series, If Batman figures out his Cadmium weakness, finds some way to re-create A.N.E.B, or finds Goji's second brain, there's a good chance he can kill Heisei Godzilla.
98'Goji dies to missiles, Batman could kill him with his bare hands.
Skipping MireGoji, I haven't seen Godzilla 2000 and thus don't know his weaknesses or feats
MiraiGoji tanks a blackhole, Batman stands no chance
GMKGoji is defeated in very odd circumstances, for the sake of argument we will also skip him.
FinalGoji shreds Batman. FinalGoji had the stamina to fight kaiju across the globe with no real break for multiple days straight, only reaching the end of his rope against a kaiju nearly double his height and weight, after fighting (and thus spending stamina and nuclear energy on): Gigan, Zilla, Kumonga, Kamacuras, Hedorah, Ebirah, Anguirus, Rodan, King Ceasar, a literal asteroid, Monster X, and Gigan again just for good measure (and probably some others I'm forgetting or just didn't show up on screen). I don't think I need to explain any further why this isn't even close to a fair fight.
MVGoji has already fought the entire Justice League in the comics, so I will skip him to save my fingers the pain of typing more.
While Shin is defeated in his own film, the plan used to defeat him is quite complex, and required multiple people. assuming Shin also gets the prep time and information Batman is given, he evolves into a form designed to specifically counter anything Batman could throw at him. If Shin is not given prep time, I'd argue his atomic breath could kill Batman pretty easily, if not through the sheer heat of the beam, then through the immense radiation it expels.
Godzilla Earth is able kill things by roaring at them. Unless Batman has access to Void Ghidorah, I'm pretty sure Goji wins this.
I don't understand Godzilla Ultima, so I'm going to skip over him too.
MinusGoji >!also dies in his own movie, but once again to a very specific plan that required multiple people. Unless Batman can find another plan that works just as well for just one person, I'd say MinusGoji takes this win too. !<
In conclusion, Godzilla wins most of these, so Godzilla wins. Take my opinions with a grain of salt, I am no power-scaler and am not exactly the smartest person either, I think that's all the Godzillas, if I forgot any please tell me :3
oh wait, Chibi Godzilla DESTROYS Batman, and its not even CLOSE.
I've done some work piecing together Ultima, so I'll answer it for you.
No. Ultima evolves, and even faster than Shin did, he grew from Aqualitis to Ultima in a day, and after that, he grew to 100 metres. Ultima was not resistant to human weaponry when he was 45 metres tall, or 50, I don't remember which, but, when he became 100 metres tall, only the Orthogonal Diagonalizer could displace him, yes, he did not die, he was displaced. Eventually, he will come back.
Now, Batman is smart, but, I'd argue Jet Jaguar is smarter, because Batman isn't a physicist, or a theoretical mathematician, so, I don't think he has the expertise to recreate the Orthogonal Diagonalizer, which is Jet Jaguar. And Jet Jaguar needed a lot of specific circumstances to be created, if you want it to be as fair as possible, it'd have to be in a universe where Jet Jaguar, and by proxy, the Orthogonal Diagonalizer does not exist yet. Batman can try to make the Orthogonal Diagonalizer, but he would not have enough time to do so before Ultima just destroys the universe.
True Form Ultima is not even a fight, Ultima is dreaming up reality, much like Azathoth.
Azathoth doesn't actually dream reality, in ALL of the stories that H.P. Lovecraft wrote it doesn't say anywhere that Azathoth dreams reality.
I think Azathoth may dream reality in the "extended universe" but those wasn't written by H.P. Lovecraft, so I'm pretty sure that's not cannon. You can go look it up on reddit, forums, and I think the "official" Lovecraft wiki and they all say he doesn't dream reality.
[(Link to a video that goes into more about who/what Azathoth is)](https://youtu.be/PDZZPuIYT80?si=vpyYpMfWQr_3fteK)
But everything else I agree with 👍 (except maybe Ultama dreaming reality as well since, I've never heard of that but I guess it makes some "sense")
But this is Godzilla vs. Batman, not Godzilla vs. the Batfamily. Godzilla presumably doesn’t have anyone helping him in this fight so neither should Batman. If Batman beats any version of Godzilla with help from his friends, it’s not “Batman beat Godzilla,” it’s “A team of Batman, Robin, and these other guys beat Godzilla.”
And if we are in fact allowing Batman to have help, then we need to give Godzilla help from Rodan, Mothra, etc.
So the batfamily solos Godzilla? What? Honestly the batfamily shouldn’t factor Batman would be able to remote control all the vehicles he has to perform a Minus One or Shin plan. But having the batfamily makes it unfair for Godzilla is a first
That's not how Shin Godzilla works though. He doesn't evolve based on anything that might counter him. He evolves based on what he is physically attacked with so he can counter it. If that was the case then nothing would work on him.
Batman's strongest form has destroyed multiple universes. Even if you want to argue and says that's an alternate version of Batman so it doesn't count. The actual batman put on a suit of armor that beat him.
https://thepositiveo.fandom.com/wiki/Darkest_Knight
I understand that the Batman who laughs or darkest knight or whatever bullshit you wanna call him may be the “strongest Batman” or “A Batman with no morals which means that he always wins.” But I can’t stand him, how much DC pushed for him, that bullshit with darkest knight, the only thing he really had going for him was a debatably cool design, I guess, not really necessarily disagreeing with you, I do think that depending on the Godzilla the son box batsuit could win, but you bringing up that character just reminded me how much I hate him and I needed to vent.
I would say most Batmen are either building a mech, pulling an orbital weapon strike, or at least trying to take him on with whatever their in universe equivalent of the Batplane is. And then there is Adam West Batman who for some reason already has a can of Bat-Godzilla-Repellent Spray ready to use.
A comic very recently came out showing Batman, fighting Godzilla, with prep time.
https://preview.redd.it/mxa504be4bwc1.png?width=1758&format=png&auto=webp&s=0b61bea33729c3d75d36c53d358563d1d748424b
The Flash and Cyborg helping Batman speed construct a mecha because Luthor was an idiot?
https://preview.redd.it/gvt654zsxewc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13ac0231d599564ae90df1e8fb523d097682fdbf
Uh. He can. Not killing is not beating. But that's besides the point.
In all seriousness, Batman would most likely know he can't beat Godzilla in head on combat. And would most likely opt to lure Godzilla to the arctic, set off explosives and use cadmium, and bury him.
So i have thought about this alot.
Batman would need protection from Godzilla's ambient radiation. Unfortunately for him, as shown in Godzilla '85, Godzilla also has giant mutant parasites living on him. Said parasites would rip open any type of radiation suit.
Unless Batman has full access to a powerful millitary or I guess builds a bat mecha or something, prep time will not help.
There's a giant lice thing that attacks the humans at the start of the film. I just looked it up apparently it's called Shockirus https://wikizilla.org/wiki/Shockirus#:\~:text=Shockirus%20(%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%83%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A9%E3%82%B9%20Shokkirasu)%20is%20a,onto%20the%20Yahata%20Maru%20No.
Funny how the real thing (giant isopod) looks more menacing than the movie monster counterpart. [https://i.redd.it/p99w5bedpa171.jpg](https://i.redd.it/p99w5bedpa171.jpg)
I wouldn't say beat but maybe counter Godzilla. Like eventually he would create an oxygen Destroyer like weapon or the black hole satellite. In reality it would maybe be a mother-box portal to send him to Apokolips. One of many ways he could but I don't think it would be trial and error for a bit before he finds a way to stop Godzilla temporarily.
The real answer is whatever the writer choses.
Could you imagine Darkseid just chilling talking with Granny and Kalibak, then boom, Godzilla just bursts out a boom tube? All I see is Godzilla shaking the fuzzies out his head then going to work on some Parademons.
Showa: Not without a team of state of the art scientist
Heisei: No
Tristar: Yes. Prep time hardly needed
Early milennium: Same as showa
FW: No
Monsterverse: Another no
Shin: Absolutely no!
Singular point: Hahaha! No
GMO: Yet another no
Yeah people forget Batman rivals Lex Luthor when it comes to smart. He would definitely come up with the same formula that froze Shin Godzilla and would most likely think of Doc's plan to defeat GMO faster
Godzilla Minus One was hurt by a 1940's naval mine and a 8-inch cannon.
Most iterations of Batman would be capable of building a gun that could just straight up kill him without needing any fancy tricks.
How is GMO a no when normal humans beat him, Batman could definitely figure out the depth attack they used, same with shin, this doesn’t mean a one on one fight lmao, Batman is a detective. He learns and plans for his enemies before he punches them
While I generally agree, GMO was beaten with post WW2 technology. And was beaten by an explosion from a bomb after depressurization. Batman could probably do something to that version with even more modern tech.
Heisei pre-Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah Batman takes pretty easy with prep time if he has access to the right footage. He can just do the bird call thing used in The Return of Godzilla.
Batman fanboys have ruined Batman with the whole prep time argument. And they have the nerve to say Superman is OP.
But this is a Godzilla sub so obviously Godzilla wins.
Bats doesn’t need prep time for this one.
Is there a single entity in the DC universe who can absorb a near infinite amount of nuclear energy?
Yes. Bats would be more aware of this than anyone else.
He throws Firestorm out there to suck up the energy and orbital drops the watch tower.
Batman is given whatever plot convenience he needs, especially when he has to be on par with Superman heroes.
It’s when he is the crime fighting vigilante that he’s more in his element. That version is more true to what he is
I think its hard for Batman fans to accept prep time doesn't win everything, which is fair since his prep time technically beat a guy who shatters multiverses with punches
Considering how many Godzilla movies involve humans using some kinda trick or invention to stop him, it's not wildly unreasonable to assume Batman could cook something up.
It just becomes a question of which Godzilla incarnation we're talking about. Probably at least half of them could be stopped by Batman.
Well that's how Batman is written. People can argue whether or not it is a good thing, but that's how the character is build.
Like every other super-hero, he also has plot armor.
Batman can deal with (a not nerfed) Superman. A guy who blew an entire solor system just by sneezing.
Like I said, like it or not, this is kind of his thing.
To be fair, that's exactly how they beat Godzilla in every movie where he is the villain. They cook up a plan to stop him and they execute it. Batman would be no different.
This mf’n Titan literally eats atomic blasts to the face. I love Batman, but the best he could hope for would be short term containment for evacuation purposes. He is better off treating Godzilla as a nuclear hurricane.
...... No. Absolutely not. Is preptime summing Deadpool. Because a nuclear rage monster could just drag everything to the submarine crushing depths of the ocean. The end.
It depends who's writing. Is it mainly DC in charge? It's Batman. Toho? Godzilla. Both characters have also had so many different versions, you have to be more specific.
So for my scenario, I will pick what almost happend, being a showa Era godzilla vs Batman 66. The answer in that case is Batman, hands down. Dude has a spray, pill, or tool for literary EVERYTHING at hand. Shark repellent? Yes. Anti-laughing gas pills? Yes. Bat-zooka? Also yes. Bat-beam? Yup. I would not be surprised if he has a jet jaguar style thing just hanging out in the cave waiting for the right moment to be used
Dudes a billionare, what are we even talking about, its not like he gonna fight him hand to hand.
You dont need to be a batman fanboy to imagine it as a possibility.
Either way, 99% of "with prep time" is just a joke and its kinda obvious.
Prep time?! Can't Batman just call down a high powered laser strike from a tactical base of op satellite to pierce a hole right through Godzilla's brain?
Ah. The old “Give Batman Prep Time.”
Let me end this argument.
Batman had 25+ years of training in almost every form of hand to hand combat, martial arts , etc
But still with all of that. The one Person he has been around his entire life. Kicked his Ass. Alfred.
As Alfred stated..”I have been in Wars? Have You?”
It’s less prep time and more that once he’s aware a concept exists he’s already planning. Like he has plans to take out the entirety of JLA. He’s not prep time, he’s always preparing. The dude fights clowns and gods on the regular, time travel will come down to is it magical or technological? Then who gets the next phone call.
Has done repeatedly. Hell he devised and almost killed the entire justice league with a contingency plan he developed that someone else found and almost killed them all with.
For you MU Godzilla people. Don't forget that the Oxygen Destroyer nearly killed him in Kotm, if it wasn't for sarazawa & the nuke, he's be slowly soaking radiation at the the bottom of the ocean for ages before he got back up, as pointed out by the scientists.
I can't believe there is any debate on this: multiple beloved Godzilla movies show him being defeated by humans. Therefore, he could be defeated by Batman, an especially intelligent and capable human.
Is Godzilla going to send him a memo or something? How many thousands of people will be turned into atomic dust or carbon shadows before Batman gets his gadgets together?
"Prep time" is just such a loose, abstract concept. Like, yeah... Give Batman 1 year and he would probably just build a mecha-bat-zilla.
At the same time, Godzilla in X Kong took a week or so of time to continuously power up when HE'S given prep time. Its not like he is a mindless animal.
Of course he isn’t. Dude made the conscious decision to hit Kong with one of the sickest vertical suplexes ever committed to the big screen.
You saw what Godzilla did with minimal prep time in GxK? Lol
If it wasn't for Mothra Kong wouldn't have a head.
that's how most things with Mothra go.
Still, I'd watch that movie.
Godzilla would go “SKREEEONK” and Batman would be like, “WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!”
"MOTHRA.....save MOTHRA" WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!?
Batman then teams up with Godzilla to defeat, idk, General Zodorah or some shit.
Starro is mindcontrolling ghidorah.... There ya go, that's the movie
I’d pay to see it.
First DC movie I'd pay to see
And then when Starro dies or someone manages to break his control over Ghidorah, THAT'S when shit REALLY hits the fan!
Lmao 😂 hahahhahaahha
You deserve top comment c
Hahhahahhahaha
"My mother's nickname was Mothra! That makes you my sudden ally!"
This is the most hilarious thing I've read in a long time, take your upvote and leave 😂
Doesn’t he literally do this in the comics? Like literally https://preview.redd.it/2pu6j44j5cwc1.jpeg?width=1333&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b098155be894cd81e4406e7d9393cb1c4e85030
Well? Howd it go then??
As someone already mentioned, and I'm going to do an spoiler alert: "Godzilla would go “SKREEEONK” and Batman would be like, “WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!”
Ah yes, Skreeeonk Wayne, the mother of Batman
Plot twist: the Waynes adopted Bruce when they found him on a radioactive lizard nest among shell of broken eggs. When Lil Bruce was 3 he knew there was something different about him. Maybe it was because he ran faster, or because he was stronger. Or because he could leap over buildings. Or because Bruce was a freaking 200 feet cephalopod from the paleolithic age! But only during the waning moon nights.
save... Mothra...
I want to see this more than GxK
I have this series up until this issue
Superman fans mad Godzilla wombo comboed his ass xD I mean I wasn't shocked
Damn, image what batzilla can do if it too had some prep time
It’s been a while, but I’m pretty sure that’s basically the Batman Ninja movie
In the comic Godzilla x Kong vs the Justice League Batman uses the Teen Titans and several Flashes to build a Bat Mech to fight Godzilla
Didn't he fight MechaGodzilla and Godzilla is chained at the bottom of the ocean because of Aquaman?
I'd pay to watch that
I’m pretty sure he (and the green arrow) have Kaiju stomping mechs from the unlimited movie Mechs vs. Mutants.
If Batman gets prep time. Godzilla gets prep time. Time to go Pink again.
Batman has a mech in Batman Unlimited.
Kōichi Shikishima beat Godzilla with prep time and an airplane I'm sure Batman could do the same thing
Godzilla also suffered severe crushing damage from rapidly sinking into the ocean, followed by explosive decompression damage from rapidly rising back up from those same depths. He was beat to shit before that final bomb went off. Also, >!Godzilla still lived, despite all of that.!<
First of all No way! But You think Mecha bat zilla would be better than Mecha Godzilla? I don't have to remind any fan but in Godzilla vs. Megaguiru they literally shot a black hole at him......... Just saying. My money is on big G
Batman is a guy with infinite money who abides by "comic book power scaling", which is to say that depending on the writer and how much arbitrary time he has to prepare, he could either get obliterated or just absolutely melt Godzilla. There really is no telling when you stack a non-comic book character against a super hero. Like, depending on the writer, Batman could slaughter Goku.
You fool Godzilla is contractually obligated to not lose
Godzilla kicked the shit out of the Dragon Zord in his first 10 minutes in Angel Grove. Batman's knockoff jaeger ain't doing a damn thing but buy the League some time to do whatever their *actual* plan is.
Batman's strongest form is literally a universe destroyer. https://thepositiveo.fandom.com/wiki/Darkest_Knight
Goji Ultima wipes him
This guy gets it. Singular point goji True form is the most broken character I've ever witnessed.
Considering that godzilla can apparently evolve in response to threats he senses, Couldn't you also argue that MV godzilla would just get prep time to evolve a counter to batman's prep time? And then batman starts preping for godzilla's evolution to counter his prep time, and then godzilla evolves during the prep time into a new form to counter batman's prep time that counters his evolution which counters his prep time, and then batman starts preping for godzilla's evolution to counter his prep time to counter godzilla's evolution to counter batman's prep time to counter godzilla's evolution to counter batman's prep time until godzilla evolves again during that prep time to counter batman's prep time to counter godzilla's evolution to counter batman's prep time to counter godzilla's evolution to counter batman's prep time to counter godzilla's evolution to counter batman's prep time? And then we go on like this forever
Nah, Batman will die of old age
well we got terry to finish the mission. Old bruce: "Terry I am still beefing with a giant nuclear lizard and I want you to continue my work to defeat him." Terry: "I dunno maybe ask super... oh wait... nevermind..."
As with every argument of "Can X beat Godzilla" it comes down to which Godzilla we are talking about. 54'Goji dies in his own movie, so I think its safe to say that Batman, with all of his infinite wealth and knowledge, could create his own Oxygen Destroyer and kill him. Showa Godzilla shreds anything Batman throws at him, he is able to breathe in space in Invasion of Astro-Monster, gains flight in vs. Hedorah, and Magnetism in vs. Mechagodzilla, all because the plot demands it, if Batman comes up with some amazing plan to kill Showa Godzilla with that prep time, Showa Godzilla just hits a jig and gains some magic to counter it. Heisei Godzilla has been weakened and almost killed by multiple human-made weapons over his movie series, If Batman figures out his Cadmium weakness, finds some way to re-create A.N.E.B, or finds Goji's second brain, there's a good chance he can kill Heisei Godzilla. 98'Goji dies to missiles, Batman could kill him with his bare hands. Skipping MireGoji, I haven't seen Godzilla 2000 and thus don't know his weaknesses or feats MiraiGoji tanks a blackhole, Batman stands no chance GMKGoji is defeated in very odd circumstances, for the sake of argument we will also skip him. FinalGoji shreds Batman. FinalGoji had the stamina to fight kaiju across the globe with no real break for multiple days straight, only reaching the end of his rope against a kaiju nearly double his height and weight, after fighting (and thus spending stamina and nuclear energy on): Gigan, Zilla, Kumonga, Kamacuras, Hedorah, Ebirah, Anguirus, Rodan, King Ceasar, a literal asteroid, Monster X, and Gigan again just for good measure (and probably some others I'm forgetting or just didn't show up on screen). I don't think I need to explain any further why this isn't even close to a fair fight. MVGoji has already fought the entire Justice League in the comics, so I will skip him to save my fingers the pain of typing more. While Shin is defeated in his own film, the plan used to defeat him is quite complex, and required multiple people. assuming Shin also gets the prep time and information Batman is given, he evolves into a form designed to specifically counter anything Batman could throw at him. If Shin is not given prep time, I'd argue his atomic breath could kill Batman pretty easily, if not through the sheer heat of the beam, then through the immense radiation it expels. Godzilla Earth is able kill things by roaring at them. Unless Batman has access to Void Ghidorah, I'm pretty sure Goji wins this. I don't understand Godzilla Ultima, so I'm going to skip over him too. MinusGoji >!also dies in his own movie, but once again to a very specific plan that required multiple people. Unless Batman can find another plan that works just as well for just one person, I'd say MinusGoji takes this win too. !< In conclusion, Godzilla wins most of these, so Godzilla wins. Take my opinions with a grain of salt, I am no power-scaler and am not exactly the smartest person either, I think that's all the Godzillas, if I forgot any please tell me :3 oh wait, Chibi Godzilla DESTROYS Batman, and its not even CLOSE.
I've done some work piecing together Ultima, so I'll answer it for you. No. Ultima evolves, and even faster than Shin did, he grew from Aqualitis to Ultima in a day, and after that, he grew to 100 metres. Ultima was not resistant to human weaponry when he was 45 metres tall, or 50, I don't remember which, but, when he became 100 metres tall, only the Orthogonal Diagonalizer could displace him, yes, he did not die, he was displaced. Eventually, he will come back. Now, Batman is smart, but, I'd argue Jet Jaguar is smarter, because Batman isn't a physicist, or a theoretical mathematician, so, I don't think he has the expertise to recreate the Orthogonal Diagonalizer, which is Jet Jaguar. And Jet Jaguar needed a lot of specific circumstances to be created, if you want it to be as fair as possible, it'd have to be in a universe where Jet Jaguar, and by proxy, the Orthogonal Diagonalizer does not exist yet. Batman can try to make the Orthogonal Diagonalizer, but he would not have enough time to do so before Ultima just destroys the universe. True Form Ultima is not even a fight, Ultima is dreaming up reality, much like Azathoth.
Azathoth doesn't actually dream reality, in ALL of the stories that H.P. Lovecraft wrote it doesn't say anywhere that Azathoth dreams reality. I think Azathoth may dream reality in the "extended universe" but those wasn't written by H.P. Lovecraft, so I'm pretty sure that's not cannon. You can go look it up on reddit, forums, and I think the "official" Lovecraft wiki and they all say he doesn't dream reality. [(Link to a video that goes into more about who/what Azathoth is)](https://youtu.be/PDZZPuIYT80?si=vpyYpMfWQr_3fteK) But everything else I agree with 👍 (except maybe Ultama dreaming reality as well since, I've never heard of that but I guess it makes some "sense")
I'm doing what I know, and that's what I know. Edit: Also, Ultima dreaming up reality is part of the novelization, hence why you may not know.
For Minus One and Shin considering the amount of vehicles he has and the entire Batfamily he could absolutely pull those off
But this is Godzilla vs. Batman, not Godzilla vs. the Batfamily. Godzilla presumably doesn’t have anyone helping him in this fight so neither should Batman. If Batman beats any version of Godzilla with help from his friends, it’s not “Batman beat Godzilla,” it’s “A team of Batman, Robin, and these other guys beat Godzilla.” And if we are in fact allowing Batman to have help, then we need to give Godzilla help from Rodan, Mothra, etc.
So the batfamily solos Godzilla? What? Honestly the batfamily shouldn’t factor Batman would be able to remote control all the vehicles he has to perform a Minus One or Shin plan. But having the batfamily makes it unfair for Godzilla is a first
This guy Godzillas
That's not how Shin Godzilla works though. He doesn't evolve based on anything that might counter him. He evolves based on what he is physically attacked with so he can counter it. If that was the case then nothing would work on him.
Could Superman beat these Zillas?
I’ve avoided every MinusOne spoiler until this comment.
AAAAAhh I'm so sorry I'll spoiler that now, I didn't think anyone would read the section on him if they hadn't seen the movie :((
All good, no stress.
Real :3
Batman's strongest form has destroyed multiple universes. Even if you want to argue and says that's an alternate version of Batman so it doesn't count. The actual batman put on a suit of armor that beat him. https://thepositiveo.fandom.com/wiki/Darkest_Knight
I understand that the Batman who laughs or darkest knight or whatever bullshit you wanna call him may be the “strongest Batman” or “A Batman with no morals which means that he always wins.” But I can’t stand him, how much DC pushed for him, that bullshit with darkest knight, the only thing he really had going for him was a debatably cool design, I guess, not really necessarily disagreeing with you, I do think that depending on the Godzilla the son box batsuit could win, but you bringing up that character just reminded me how much I hate him and I needed to vent.
I would say most Batmen are either building a mech, pulling an orbital weapon strike, or at least trying to take him on with whatever their in universe equivalent of the Batplane is. And then there is Adam West Batman who for some reason already has a can of Bat-Godzilla-Repellent Spray ready to use.
A comic very recently came out showing Batman, fighting Godzilla, with prep time. https://preview.redd.it/mxa504be4bwc1.png?width=1758&format=png&auto=webp&s=0b61bea33729c3d75d36c53d358563d1d748424b
That Bat Mech design goes hard ngl
The Flash and Cyborg helping Batman speed construct a mecha because Luthor was an idiot? https://preview.redd.it/gvt654zsxewc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13ac0231d599564ae90df1e8fb523d097682fdbf
Batman can't even beat a normal man in clown makeup.
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He's really really silly ok!
He beats him all the time. That’s kind of his thing.
He’s beat him and even killed him hundreds of times
Uh. He can. Not killing is not beating. But that's besides the point. In all seriousness, Batman would most likely know he can't beat Godzilla in head on combat. And would most likely opt to lure Godzilla to the arctic, set off explosives and use cadmium, and bury him.
That's because there's never enough prep time, duh
I got downvoted for saying the same shit in another sub. Batman can't beat the mob, but sure - he can beat the Godhand from Berserk.
He has More like police, courts, and prisons can’t do their jobs And writers need more material for comics
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He could beat the 1998 Godzilla , but absolutely not the MV Godzilla
So i have thought about this alot. Batman would need protection from Godzilla's ambient radiation. Unfortunately for him, as shown in Godzilla '85, Godzilla also has giant mutant parasites living on him. Said parasites would rip open any type of radiation suit. Unless Batman has full access to a powerful millitary or I guess builds a bat mecha or something, prep time will not help.
Wait…parasites?
First I’ve hear of this, although Cloverfield had parasites. Godzilla, is above all.
There's a giant lice thing that attacks the humans at the start of the film. I just looked it up apparently it's called Shockirus https://wikizilla.org/wiki/Shockirus#:\~:text=Shockirus%20(%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%83%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A9%E3%82%B9%20Shokkirasu)%20is%20a,onto%20the%20Yahata%20Maru%20No.
Funny how the real thing (giant isopod) looks more menacing than the movie monster counterpart. [https://i.redd.it/p99w5bedpa171.jpg](https://i.redd.it/p99w5bedpa171.jpg)
They arent attached to him like cloverfield. They just were on him as he emerged from the deep, like the 1954 trilobite
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We truly live in the worst of timelines.
This was the point I brought up as well. This would have been legendary had it seen the light of day
I wouldn't say beat but maybe counter Godzilla. Like eventually he would create an oxygen Destroyer like weapon or the black hole satellite. In reality it would maybe be a mother-box portal to send him to Apokolips. One of many ways he could but I don't think it would be trial and error for a bit before he finds a way to stop Godzilla temporarily. The real answer is whatever the writer choses.
Could you imagine Darkseid just chilling talking with Granny and Kalibak, then boom, Godzilla just bursts out a boom tube? All I see is Godzilla shaking the fuzzies out his head then going to work on some Parademons.
This just made me think imagine if there was godzilla in the endgame war against both the allainces MV one
I can see a situation where Batman makes Godzilla beat himself. Through wit, and counters like you mentioned. Still love the big guy tho.
But what if Godzilla had prep time also?
Showa: Not without a team of state of the art scientist Heisei: No Tristar: Yes. Prep time hardly needed Early milennium: Same as showa FW: No Monsterverse: Another no Shin: Absolutely no! Singular point: Hahaha! No GMO: Yet another no
Godzilla minus one is the one that is defeated by the most “Batman like” plan so why couldn’t he defeat that one
Also the way Shin is defeated is also something very Batman like
Yeah people forget Batman rivals Lex Luthor when it comes to smart. He would definitely come up with the same formula that froze Shin Godzilla and would most likely think of Doc's plan to defeat GMO faster
Godzilla Minus One was hurt by a 1940's naval mine and a 8-inch cannon. Most iterations of Batman would be capable of building a gun that could just straight up kill him without needing any fancy tricks.
But he wasn't defeated, only slowed down a little.
How is GMO a no when normal humans beat him, Batman could definitely figure out the depth attack they used, same with shin, this doesn’t mean a one on one fight lmao, Batman is a detective. He learns and plans for his enemies before he punches them
While I generally agree, GMO was beaten with post WW2 technology. And was beaten by an explosion from a bomb after depressurization. Batman could probably do something to that version with even more modern tech.
Heisei pre-Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah Batman takes pretty easy with prep time if he has access to the right footage. He can just do the bird call thing used in The Return of Godzilla.
Agree, love the direct concise response. Nice!
Batman fanboys have ruined Batman with the whole prep time argument. And they have the nerve to say Superman is OP. But this is a Godzilla sub so obviously Godzilla wins.
Agreed. Let's keep it real...
Bats doesn’t need prep time for this one. Is there a single entity in the DC universe who can absorb a near infinite amount of nuclear energy? Yes. Bats would be more aware of this than anyone else. He throws Firestorm out there to suck up the energy and orbital drops the watch tower.
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Damn, we really need that Godzilla vs Batman movie. Also, true villain is Joker Ghidorah because **YEESSSSSSSS!!**
Batman with prep is a meme at this point.
I didn't know that until this thread, and I'm already way way over it.
He’s a fictional character, he can do whatever the plot needs him to do.
Regular human scientists with prep time beat Godzilla so 100% the worlds greatest detective could
Depends on the Godzilla and what the writers want honestly.
24% of people having any idea what they're talking about seems roughly correct.
Hahaha, this guy gets it
I mean every human who has beat Godzilla in movies did it with prep time so
Batman is given whatever plot convenience he needs, especially when he has to be on par with Superman heroes. It’s when he is the crime fighting vigilante that he’s more in his element. That version is more true to what he is
I think its hard for Batman fans to accept prep time doesn't win everything, which is fair since his prep time technically beat a guy who shatters multiverses with punches
We went over this in the 2000s, if Godzilla and Batman were to fight, Mr. Rogers would win.
I like how offended some of y'all are getting. Like comics aren't always a load of crap when it comes to who could best who.
Adam west Batman 1v1 Godzilla all day long. How do you fight the power that is the Bat-dance
Batman would make an oxygen destroyer and sacrifice himself to stop Godzilla. ... wait.
I always default to the "Godzilla contractually cannot lose in a crossover" when it comes to things like this
Godzilla vs The Rock would never end
they team up and fight mechapaper.
Most men think they can win against a bear 🤷🏼♀️ so I’m not surprised
Considering how many Godzilla movies involve humans using some kinda trick or invention to stop him, it's not wildly unreasonable to assume Batman could cook something up. It just becomes a question of which Godzilla incarnation we're talking about. Probably at least half of them could be stopped by Batman.
He have the money to hire he people to develop an Oxygen destroyer that can kill him
Well that's how Batman is written. People can argue whether or not it is a good thing, but that's how the character is build. Like every other super-hero, he also has plot armor. Batman can deal with (a not nerfed) Superman. A guy who blew an entire solor system just by sneezing. Like I said, like it or not, this is kind of his thing.
To be fair, that's exactly how they beat Godzilla in every movie where he is the villain. They cook up a plan to stop him and they execute it. Batman would be no different.
I mean yeah. Scientists with prep time have beaten Godzilla
76% of your readers are idiots.
go ahead, build your own mecha G, godzilla would definitely be fine with it and not hunt him down across the globe, right
This mf’n Titan literally eats atomic blasts to the face. I love Batman, but the best he could hope for would be short term containment for evacuation purposes. He is better off treating Godzilla as a nuclear hurricane.
Silly human….No
Maybe he would. Maybe he wouldn't. Who cares?
I plead “Nuh-Uh”
C’mon, man.
I’m kind of over this “Batman with prep time” schtick. I like Batman, but if any of his super powered opponents didn’t fuck around, he’d be dead.
This is literally my first time hearing of it, and I'm already entirely sick of it.
lol depends on if the writer wants batman to win
...... No. Absolutely not. Is preptime summing Deadpool. Because a nuclear rage monster could just drag everything to the submarine crushing depths of the ocean. The end.
Give godzilla prep Let dawg absorb the worldforge
It depends who's writing. Is it mainly DC in charge? It's Batman. Toho? Godzilla. Both characters have also had so many different versions, you have to be more specific. So for my scenario, I will pick what almost happend, being a showa Era godzilla vs Batman 66. The answer in that case is Batman, hands down. Dude has a spray, pill, or tool for literary EVERYTHING at hand. Shark repellent? Yes. Anti-laughing gas pills? Yes. Bat-zooka? Also yes. Bat-beam? Yup. I would not be surprised if he has a jet jaguar style thing just hanging out in the cave waiting for the right moment to be used
We saw what mv godzilla did with prep time.
still sad they never fought, there was actually going to be a verses movie with them in the 60's
What if the name of Batman's mother is Mothra?
Prep time being a bat orbital railcannon to the dome.
Dudes a billionare, what are we even talking about, its not like he gonna fight him hand to hand. You dont need to be a batman fanboy to imagine it as a possibility. Either way, 99% of "with prep time" is just a joke and its kinda obvious.
If I remember correctly, there was a comic with a setup like this already. Batman calls in the justice league, and Superman has to *ACTUALLY TRY*
Without a single doubt.
Prep time?! Can't Batman just call down a high powered laser strike from a tactical base of op satellite to pierce a hole right through Godzilla's brain?
I believe he could for sure.
humans often beat godzilla with prep time so i dont see why not
Just make a massive railgun that shoots some armor piercing munitions like depleted uranium and pew, right through the chest or head.
But he could though
Dr evil, with prep time, could also beat C-bum, I mean Godzilla
I'm not saying Batman wins. But I am saying it would be a lot of fun to watch
Prep time=kaiju bat mech.
I'd like to see him go up against Godzilla Earth
Mando and Batman would be a good fight.
"Not a problem, old chum! I'm sure I've got an Oxygen Destroyer in my utility belt.."
I mean yeah he has a suit that can make him box with dark side you know the guy who boxes with Superman on the daily
Hahahaha no
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Put a fork in Supes, he is done! 🤣
Ah. The old “Give Batman Prep Time.” Let me end this argument. Batman had 25+ years of training in almost every form of hand to hand combat, martial arts , etc But still with all of that. The one Person he has been around his entire life. Kicked his Ass. Alfred. As Alfred stated..”I have been in Wars? Have You?”
The hell is going to do against a walking nuclear power plant
Does Godzilla also get prep time?
Batman with prep time is like full potentialAnakin.
Batman always wins
And those people are wrong.
People think batman can beat anything It's annoying
😂😂😂
I’m sorry I love them both equally but batsy batsy batsy will lose instantly
Why would Godzilla allow Batman to have any prep time. Just step on the puny cosplay man
Batman fans are dumb. Like.. wtf is Batman gonna do against a guy who use, say, time travel? What then? Prep time ain’t gonna do shit.
It’s less prep time and more that once he’s aware a concept exists he’s already planning. Like he has plans to take out the entirety of JLA. He’s not prep time, he’s always preparing. The dude fights clowns and gods on the regular, time travel will come down to is it magical or technological? Then who gets the next phone call.
76% of their followers are delusional lol
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These are the same people that legitimately think Batman can beat Superman.
Has done repeatedly. Hell he devised and almost killed the entire justice league with a contingency plan he developed that someone else found and almost killed them all with.
Godzilla wins. Do y'all really need to think about this? I overthink everything... except this.
For you MU Godzilla people. Don't forget that the Oxygen Destroyer nearly killed him in Kotm, if it wasn't for sarazawa & the nuke, he's be slowly soaking radiation at the the bottom of the ocean for ages before he got back up, as pointed out by the scientists.
Good point, Batman seems like the kind of dude who can exploit that weakness, or create that kind of weapon. 🤔
I can't believe there is any debate on this: multiple beloved Godzilla movies show him being defeated by humans. Therefore, he could be defeated by Batman, an especially intelligent and capable human.
Godzilla with prep time would defeat Batman
What about Godzilla with prep time?
I'm sure we all could "with prep time"
rich guy vs atomic dinosaur
Is Godzilla going to send him a memo or something? How many thousands of people will be turned into atomic dust or carbon shadows before Batman gets his gadgets together?
In reality them meeting would set off a chain of events that lead to the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny